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Engineered Enhancers Closer Than You Think

Roland Piquepaille writes "Happy 2035! Thirty years from now, we'll use bionic eyes giving us 'zoom vision' for faster reactions. Nanobots injected in our bloodstream will complement our immune system. Artificial muscles built with electroactive polymers will help us to be stronger and faster. So you think it's science fiction? Not at all. You'll see that some people are so convinced that this kind of human enhancements will happen that they predict than in a few decades, all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'"

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  1. Medical needs by BWJones · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps in thirty years we could obtain some degree of enhancement for our eyes that would be optically based. However, a more pressing (and needed) benefit will be a cure or fix for folks with vision loss. "Zoom lenses" and such could relatively easily be accomplished with bionically enhanced optics, but the real trick is going to be designing and implementing the hardware/wetware interface and creating true bionic retinas. Bionic implants for retinal degenerations as currently implemented are not going to work for a variety of reasons (read my doctoral dissertation to find out why), but there are other approaches that can be taken or modifications that will be successful (part of my current work). Also alternative ways of implementing the interface cortically will likely have some success (not my work, but it is of my colleagues). Artificial retinas are going to be harder than artificial cochleas for the hearing impaired or cortical control of motor functions which are both applications that are having some success currently. The retina is a much more complex tissue with (in our eyes) 55-60 different classes of neurons all wired together in a precise manner to generate proper signals for image interpretability. As an interesting aside, I have said this before on Slashdot, but human eyes are pretty pathetic in terms of their sophistication. Birds, fish and many reptiles have much more sophisticated retinas that perceive what we would term a multi-spectral visual world. A visual scene much richer that the simple three-space world we currently see.

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    1. Re:Medical needs by cghancock01 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does anybody remember the Discovery Channel show "Beyond 2000?" Does anybody have a flying car?

    2. Re:Medical needs by kv9 · · Score: 0

      well kinda...

    3. Re:Medical needs by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

      I'd love to take a peek at your dissertation but it's weighing in at 268MB. Is this normal? Some of us cheap folk are on 1gig max download services...

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    4. Re:Medical needs by BWJones · · Score: 1

      Yeah, believe it or not, that is the compressed version. The native version as it came out of Word (boy that was a serious chore and I hope Apple can do better with their new word processor) was around 769 MB's due to all of the figures. I could prepare another version with lower resolution figures that would be suitable for the web and not publication I suppose, but ever since finishing the dissertation, I have been insanely busy with other work and other publications.

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    5. Re:Medical needs by afd8856 · · Score: 1

      Reason no. 1 for humongous Word files: embeding clipboard image snipets and uncompresed image files. I found that saving the files in GIF or JPEG format before inserting them into Word really cuts from the final document size. Of course, I don't know if this is your case, as I have not downloaded the Word file.

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    6. Re:Medical needs by Jerf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Birds, fish and many reptiles have much more sophisticated retinas that perceive what we would term a multi-spectral visual world.

      We'd call it "multispectrum" because we don't see there. But we see "multispectrum" too... otherwise what do you call red, green, and blue? The curves for those receptors don't completely overlap.

      Of course human eyes aren't a proper superset of every eye's capability in the world. There isn't room in one eye for that, and if you did jam it all in you'd be bitching about our crappy resolution! But they are quite good for what they do, and the brain behind them is unsurpassed, if you consider seeing not just as raw pixel collection but as understanding the world. Nobody else has a visual system that can read.

      Artificial eyes will be cool but it's going to be hard to jam any more info down the optic nerve and through the visual system that we already are unless we do a full brain replacement.

    7. Re:Medical needs by seanadams.com · · Score: 1

      I have a friend who can't smell due, to a chlorine incident. I'll bet that's even harder than vision/hearing to fix with bionics. We have electronic sensors for those, but smell is a lot harder to measure electronically.

      I guess it wouldn't be too bad. I remember a few good looking girls I might revisit if it weren't for... ah never mind.

    8. Re:Medical needs by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1
      Looks like I'll download it at work, then! I just found out my Dad has MD (wet), and since I'm a carbon copy of him, looks like that's what's in my future. Also, I have floaters. I guess I don't have great eyes, although I haven't needed a new prescription in 20 years.

      I have a strong interest in any and all eye research going on.

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    9. Re:Medical needs by BWJones · · Score: 1

      Technically and mathematically you are correct. However, what I was referring to is turtles or fish being able to see in two, three or four more dimensions than we currently do. Some organisms can also see polarized light as well.

      The curves for those receptors don't completely overlap.

      Ah, it depends upon which organism you are referring to. I assume you mean humans and if so, there is considerable overlap in the pigments, especially in the red and green pigments. The blue and green also overlap to some extent.

      Of course human eyes aren't a proper superset of every eye's capability in the world.

      They are an evolutionary subset of eyes as our eyes evolved later than the other retinas that have had longer to evolve and develop.

      But they are quite good for what they do,

      That is your perception. If I were to design them anew, I would make the retinas more like other organisms and design the optics using other organisms optima.

      There isn't room in one eye for that, and if you did jam it all in you'd be bitching about our crappy resolution!

      Actually, you may be surprised at what one could do and how things could be improved.

      and the brain behind them is unsurpassed, if you consider seeing not just as raw pixel collection but as understanding the world

      Two completely different issues here. Also you should consider that there are some organisms which have specialized portions of their brains that are more sophisticated than ours as well. Humans are not necessarily the best at things you might presume we are.

      Nobody else has a visual system that can read.

      Well, now you are talking intelligence and interpretation. There is plenty of evidence that suggests the resolution of the image coming out of the retina is plenty good to read in many different organisms from fish, to octopus, to birds, to turtles, to dolphins etc...etc...etc... If you are talking about being able to understand symbolic representation of higher order information, dolphins, gorillas and even octopus can learn to interpret symbology from meaning and their retinas are good enough to resolve finely detailed information.

      Artificial eyes will be cool but it's going to be hard to jam any more info down the optic nerve and through the visual system that we already are unless we do a full brain replacement.

      Actually, there is plenty of bandwidth available. Where are you getting your information?

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    10. Re:Medical needs by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

      If the neurons are wired incorrectly, how well could the brain adapt. I know it can adapt to basic mix ups like field inversion.

      What do you mean implement cortically? Wire somthing directly into our cortex? Why our cortex and not our occipital lobe? Or is there another meaning to cortically as in corticosteriods etc?

      I guess the big question is how close are we to creating machines that can interface directly with our nervous system? And how directly is directly?

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    11. Re:Medical needs by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

      Considering that there are tetrachromats who can see in 4 channels of color (their red cones absorb in slightly different parts of the spectrum and their nervous system adapts just fine) I'd say that there's at least a little room for improvement if we start before someone is born.

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    12. Re:Medical needs by Jerf · · Score: 1

      However, what I was referring to is turtles or fish being able to see in two, three or four more dimensions than we currently do.

      Would you care to define how you are using the term "dimension" here? Has string theory revealed that turtles see in seven dimensions?

      You're either way, way, way beyond me or you don't know what the hell you're talking about. And I'm not encouraged by some of the rest of your message:

      Ah, it depends upon which organism you are referring to. I assume you mean humans and if so, there is considerable overlap in the pigments, especially in the red and green pigments. The blue and green also overlap to some extent.

      Do we not know what "completely" means? What's your point?

      They are an evolutionary subset of eyes as our eyes

      Again, what's your point? Human eyes are a subset of the set of every eye's capability? No kidding. You do have some points here but they are pretty hard to discern behind some very unclear thinking/communication.

      I'm also disturbed by your claim that other eyes have been evolving for "longer".... unless time looped funny its about the same time for all since life crawled out of the sludge. Are you getting at the idea that other creatures breed faster and there have been more generations?

      Actually, you may be surprised at what one could do and how things could be improved.

      But I think you missed my point, which is that improvements aren't free once your reach (near) optimality. (Look up the idea of Pareto optimality.) You can't create an eye that takes the best of eagles, turtles, bees, and increase resolution, and do this and do that. You can do it on paper, you can do it in your head, but you can't do it in reality, or it would be already done. Every time you improve an aspect of the human eye, you're going to degrade another aspect.

      This is assuming you don't throw the whole thing out and start anew with inorganic technology, which can probably be made vastly superior with work, but technically that's just another point on the pareto optmality frontier, one that can't be reached by evolution, which is to say, you still won't have eyes that zoom and are compact and don't draw power and see in a billion spectra and etc. etc. etc.

      If you are talking about being able to understand symbolic representation of higher order information, dolphins, gorillas and even octopus can learn to interpret symbology from meaning and their retinas are good enough to resolve finely detailed information.

      I hear this line a lot, usually supported by "look, there's this one thing that a dolphin can do as well as a human", completely ignoring the fact that we do much, much, much more than "one thing" well. Yes, a few higher animals can do some limited symbolic recognition and even more limited manipulation, but it's not even remotely similar in quality to what we've got, and anyone telling you otherwise is either misguided or selling you an agenda. Humans aren't the best at everything universally, but there is nothing on this planet that even comes close for general purpose cognition.

      Actually, there is plenty of bandwidth available. Where are you getting your information?

      I refer to the whole system. The bottleneck for vision isn't really in the eye. My eye dumps tons of data into my brain and I still fail to do things like see the keys sitting right in front of me. That is not a failing of the sensor.

      I reject as equally misguided the claims that humans are the best at everything (which you don't much hear any more) and the claim that humans are nothing special. Both are equally deluded, equally wrong, equally a result of deliberate self-deception. Our eyes may not be the greatest thing on the planet, but my personal vision problems stem from the staggering amount of high-level processing I have to do, as in the previous example, not the eye itself. More spectra or a zoom l

    13. Re:Medical needs by BWJones · · Score: 4, Informative

      Would you care to define how you are using the term "dimension" here? Has string theory revealed that turtles see in seven dimensions?

      No, read up on image math. There is an extensive literature with respect to color vision and color perception. I seem to remember a pretty good website talking about image math and mathematical dimensionality with respect to a great program NIH Image, nee Image J.

      Specifically with respect to turtles, they have a number of completely separate image processing channels over and above primate vision whereas we (humans) are limited to three separate channels with one channel piggybacking upon another channel. In fact, one way turtles do this is by placing little oil droplets on the end of their photoreceptors that function as additional spectral filters.

      You're either way, way, way beyond me or you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

      No offense intended, but I do suspect the former.

      Again, what's your point? Human eyes are a subset of the set of every eye's capability? No kidding.

      Human eyes are not a subset of every eyes capability. There are eyes for instance that are organized very differently from ours. For example, take a look at the morphology of the octopus eye. Very interesting and effective design and excellent optics, but the octopus retina in completely inverted with respect to the mammalian retina.

      I'm also disturbed by your claim that other eyes have been evolving for "longer"....

      Well, go back and look at a timeline of evolution. There are organisms whose lineage is much older than the human lineage. Also around the Jurassic period, there was a point at which the common mammalian ancestor went underground and mammalians "lost" their eyes. When they developed again, they did so by co-opting certain visual circuitry and piggybacking the rod pathway on top of the cone pathway. Thus, human eyes (retinas) are evolutionarily "younger" than other retinas in for example zebrafish or amphibians like the salamander or turtle. (did you also know that those organisms can fix their retinas when damaged even though they are more complex than ours?).

      which is that improvements aren't free once your reach (near) optimality.

      Again, you are making the assumption that human eyes have been optimized to the best they can possibly be. That is an error of thinking because while some things are truly impressive, they are not completely optimal.

      This is assuming you don't throw the whole thing out and start anew with inorganic technology, which can probably be made vastly superior with work

      Actually, biological photoreceptors are capable of responding to a single photon of light. This is something that inorganic technologies have so far not been able to duplicate without a not insignificant array of hardware that takes up much more space and arguably is not as sensitive or precise as biological photoreceptors.

      I hear this line a lot, usually supported by "look, there's this one thing that a dolphin can do as well as a human", completely ignoring the fact that we do much, much, much more than "one thing" well.

      You are thinking from truly a egocentric (human centric) viewpoint and not a scientific standpoint. There are capabilities that other organisms have that we are just learning about. Dolphins ability to process information in ultrasound, map their world and even see through things using ultrasound. Elephants communicating in infrasound is another thing that comes to mind.

      Humans aren't the best at everything universally, but there is nothing on this planet that even comes close for general purpose cognition.

      Use specific language and you will make more sense. Say something like "humans are capable of logical thought and applying reason and strategy to problem solving to greater degree than other known organisms" and I will agree.

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    14. Re:Medical needs by Desult · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's the communication style that is the problem. Talking about visual dimensions, which for humans just happen to be three, is a horrible coincidence. It's rather confusing to laymen without the clear delineation between "dimensions of space" and "dimensions of light wavelength," which is the apparent (though still unclear) meaning you are using. Wavelength channels is a much better description which you seem to have arrived upon at the end of your message.

      Similarly, your confusion over sub/super-set is continued. You two are agreeing that the human eye is a SUB-set of the SET of all visual ability (it does not contain all features that exist in nature).

      The discussion was interesting to read, though. Turtle eyeballs sound cool. And turtles are so darn amusing, to boot. It's an interesting intellectual puzzle to think "what would an infrared channel of vision be like?" It wouldn't just be an overlay, or anything like that (or else it would be effectively indistinguishable from regular light; e.g. colorblindness [perception without differentiation]). It'd be a color you've literally never seen, or some other manner of sense.

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    15. Re:Medical needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The native version as it came out of Word

      It was a mistake to not do it in LaTeX, although if you did it successfully in Word, you didn't really make a ``wrong'' choice.

      People just beginning their dissertations/theses have been able to learn enough LaTeX to create terrific papers with it. Mostly they gave up on Word quickly and were directed to LaTeX as a superior option. Many colleges already have LaTeX templates available for people to use.

      To anyone else who is about to write a paper of some sort and is wondering about LaTeX: you have to be careful with what image formats you can use. Decide early on in the process, or you'll create more trouble. If you're not behind schedule, try LaTeX on this paper. I use this page as my first reference, and Google if I have more problems.

      If you're using Word today to produce a scientific paper, then you're misusing it. Word isn't meant for doing large works. It has no concept of separating content from structure, and you'll often find yourself fighting the document to get it into the right shape. TeX (LaTeX is a macro language that boils down to TeX) was designed by Donald Knuth (the computer genius) to follow the correct rules of typesetting. It properly leaves the job of providing content to you. Think about CSS/HTML; it's the same stuff. CSS provides the structure, and HTML provides the content. Explore CSS Zen Garden for the power of this (correct) approach.

    16. Re:Medical needs by tsa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly. All these predictions are just a load of crap designed to get attention. I hate this stuff. Remember that in the '60s we would have nuclear fusion power plants within ten years? I'm still waiting, just as I'm waiting for my affordable fuel-cell powered car (which has been coming 'within ten years' for the last 100 years or so). I didn't RTFA, now you know why.

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    17. Re:Medical needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, linking to 275 Mb PDF on slashdot.. you are brave...

      Tels

    18. Re:Medical needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found this to be the case with Visio drawings, as well -- if I just embed a diagram directly, it makes the Word file balloon. But if I save it as some simpler format (preferrably one of the vector-based formats like WMF), the impact is much more reasonable.

    19. Re:Medical needs by Directrix1 · · Score: 1

      Whatever these predictions are spot on dude. Haven't you noticed how we've already set up a positive policy concerning treatment of "enhanced athletes" in the olympics ;-).

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    20. Re:Medical needs by peu · · Score: 1

      But you're forgettting the trully potential of our brain, if it can decode the signals received from our standard retinas, may be it can be trained to receive another set of info for the same, or better, results.

      happy new year

    21. Re:Medical needs by InadequateCamel · · Score: 1

      As an interesting aside, I have said this before on Slashdot, but human eyes are pretty pathetic in terms of their sophistication.

      I see your point, but I would like to mention that our eyes are capable of incredibly fast response times. I work with a nitrogen laser that pulses in batches of 5 shots on the order of a few tens of picoseconds each. There is a gap between the laser and the fibre-optic cable, and you can actually resolve each pulse with both your eyes and ears. Rhodopsin responds to light by photoisomerizing and then reverting back in femtoseconds.

      So don't feel TOO bad about your primitive vision!

    22. Re:Medical needs by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Yup, and the main culprit was snagit, which is pretty neat but saves as .bmp by default.

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    23. Re:Medical needs by Pushok · · Score: 1

      I doubt the human race will be around in 2035.
      With scumbags like GW Bush and his Nazi thugs running the country for another four years, despite the fact that he has one of the worst records of ANY president in history, we will likely be blown to bits by the rest of the world when they finally tire of our lunatic government trying to run the whole world, which will lead to complete nuclear (nu-clee-ur, not nucular) destruction.

    24. Re:Medical needs by Moderatbastard · · Score: 0
      You're either way, way, way beyond me or you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

      No offense intended, but I do suspect the former.

      -1 Arrogant. Oh, and you are totally, totally, incapable of communication. To choose just the worst case- 'dimensions' - that was about the worst possible term (bearing in mind its common meaning, and the MLT meaning in physics) for what, to all intents and purposes, seems to amount to 'colours' or 'colour channels'.
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    25. Re:Medical needs by danila · · Score: 1

      Dimensionality may not be the best choice of words, but mathematically it is correct.

      May be most people perceive our colour vision as a spectrum, not an n-dimensional space. Thus when you suggest we add in 370nm 500nm and 630 nm, an average person (not a vision scientist) may think that would improve colour "resolution", that is we would be able to see finer shades of "existing" colours and see some colours outside of the visible spectrum.

      Light we see may be a combination of different wavelength light, but I certainly don't see it that way. I see it as either a set of possible colours or a rainbow of colours. Normally I am totally unaware that I have separate receptors for 3 parts of the spectrum, so I don't see it in terms of dimensionality. Of course, once you explain it, it becomes much clearer why 7-dimensional vision is exactly that.

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    26. Re:Medical needs by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Elephants communicating in infrasound is another thing that comes to mind.


      So whats with that loud trumpeting noise they do?

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    27. Re:Medical needs by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      Compared to many insects, our response times are incredibly slow.

  2. Almost a reality by SIGALRM · · Score: 5, Interesting
    we'll use bionic eyes giving us 'zoom vision' for faster reactions
    Indeed many blind or vision-impaired people have hope today from nanotechnology like this. Scientists are experimenting with thin, photosensitive ceramic films that respond to light much as rods and cones do. Arrays of such films could be implanted in human eyes to restore lost vision.
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    1. Re:Almost a reality by drakethegreat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Will there be some way to provide a view beyond just zoom? Will it be possible to create a tool that allows you to have better horizontal coverage and be more aware of stuff that isn't right infront of us?

    2. Re:Almost a reality by SIGALRM · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I intended to post a link to NASA's research on this subject.

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    3. Re:Almost a reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I intended to post a link to NASA's research on this subject.

      Dude, I think /code f'ed with your link:

      http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/03jan_bion iceyes.htm

    4. Re:Almost a reality by BWJones · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What we are going to need however is 1) a way of understanding how the retina is currently constructed (believe it or not, but after 150 years of study, we still don't know exactly how the circuits in the retina are constructed) and 2) how to interface the new films or chips to the cortex to make sensible visual signals. I am optimistic this can occur but we are still a number of years out.

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    5. Re:Almost a reality by adeydas · · Score: 1

      Can nanotechnology help in cell transplant and removing genetic disorders too?

    6. Re:Almost a reality by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I doubt that this will be possible without a major reworking of your brain. I am no psych major but I recall that your mind's eye is all you can see, which is the same as your regular eyes. Picture a building in your mind, now have it move towards you, the top of the building will be too tall for you to see and disappear out the top of the cavas that is your imagination, and to include the top of the building you will have to zoom out. And all of this is just in your brain and has nothing to do with your eyes.

    7. Re:Almost a reality by lukesl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think that research is interesting in the short term, but ultimately what we want is the ability to regenerate a normal retina. And in the end, I think the retinal regeneration technology will win out over the artificial retina technology.

    8. Re:Almost a reality by BrainDebugged · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fine by me, just as long as THEY look like THIS.

    9. Re:Almost a reality by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "2) how to interface the new films or chips to the cortex to make sensible visual signals."

      Wasn't there a story not too long ago about a guy who recieved an artificial eye that could see 16 pixels or something like that?

      Ring a bell with anybody?

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    10. Re:Almost a reality by lonesome+phreak · · Score: 1

      This article is two years old. Any updates? I'm too busy tonight to track it down myself.

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    11. Re:Almost a reality by BWJones · · Score: 3, Informative

      There was the Wired article and Slashdot articles about the Wired article talking about a gentleman who has used a system set up by William Dobelle. This system uses a grid of electrodes on the surface of the cortex that generates phosphenes or perceptual points of light. What is not accomplished here is any real correlation with the points of light and the grid of stimulating electrodes. Furthermore, the phosphenes are not consistent among many other problems and potential problems with the Dobelle system. Also, it should be noted that William Dobelle was not granted permission to use this system in the United States and thus had to move to Portugal where he has these systems implanted in patients and he has not been entirely honest with his patients and what they can expect from these systems. Finally, the approach with surface mount electrodes requires significantly higher current to stimulate the cortex (think complications of epilepsy, and his patients have experienced seizures) than with other systems like Richard Normann's system which uses an implantable electrode array.

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    12. Re:Almost a reality by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 0

      Is it possible that this has more to do with lack of reference experience than physical or mental capacity? We can't imagine what it would look like because we lack the experience of seeing something like that to imagine it effectively. The same way that no one can really visualize what a 4 or more dimension universe would look like because we simply don't have the prior experience of seeing something in 4 dimensions to know what it might look like.

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  3. 30 years ago by odano · · Score: 2, Insightful

    30 years ago they said in 30 years we would all be driving flying cars and would have the moon colonized, so I'm not sure how much I can trust predictions like these.

    Although it is easy to say with the speed technology is moving things like this will be invented, I am sure there are some giant problems that will need to be solved first, and unless we get lucky I dont think these new technologies will be available in my lifetime.

    1. Re:30 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We probably COULD colonize the moon with today's technology. The hard part was getting there, and we did that 30 years ago. Energy? Solar power is extremely cheap, and large battery arrays can store energy for the lunar night. Atomosphere? We've successfully created self sufficient biodomes on earth, we can do it there.

      What we lack is the political will to go there, and thus the money to fund such an undertaking.

    2. Re:30 years ago by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

      I'd say it was more social limitations that prevented these events from happening.

      1. Flying cars
      We have trains that "fly" above the tracks. The reason people don't have flying cars is there is enough people killing themselves in regular "stay on the ground" cars.

      2. Moon colonization
      If the cold war had not ended and the competition still existed, there would have been a lot more space activity.

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    3. Re:30 years ago by bloo9298 · · Score: 1

      And in the sidenotes the predictions often said something about linking computers and being able to communicate across continents more easily... :-)

    4. Re:30 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the cold war had not ended and the competition still existed, there would have been a lot more space activity.

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  4. Teeth? by SharpFang · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    There were some rumors on developing a technique of implanting stem cells or something like this to regrow missing teeth. Any news/details about that?

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    1. Re:Teeth? by has2k1 · · Score: 1

      Wonderfull idea. That would give smokers a second chance to have great teeth.

    2. Re:Teeth? by Icarus1919 · · Score: 1

      Yeah the news is the government nixed stem cells. Sorry to be the one to report this.

  5. Target date fudgery by OccidentalSlashy · · Score: 1
    Happy 2035! Thirty years from now, we'll use bionic eyes giving us 'zoom vision' for faster reactions

    It kind of sounds like you're saying that thirty years in the future, this stuff will still be thirty years in the future.

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    1. Re:Target date fudgery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it will.

  6. Only human nature by fembots · · Score: 1

    I guess it's the human nature that everybody wants to be better, that's why people go to kindergarten, school, high school, university and whatnot.

    However, the thing is not everybody can achieve the same result in the school, and I'm sure not everyone can be enhanced to be equally strong with these enhancers.

    After enough time has passed, this technology will probably be another toy for a selected few, just Ferrari or Porsche.

  7. So that's what it's about by paughsw · · Score: 2, Funny

    So that's what all these "enhancement" emails I've been getting are about.

  8. STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Slashdot editors, WAKE UP! Stop posting everything Roland submits, please!

    1. Re:STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      This article doesn't link to Roland's website! WAKE UP!

      Mod parent -1 Troll

    2. Re:STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Are you blind? His name _is_ a link to his website. Maybe you're the one who should wake up.

    3. Re:STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you blind?

      Maybe the grandparent poster needs some body enhancements to fix that problem...

    4. Re:STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! by koko775 · · Score: 1

      Considering that he's submitted over 100 stories in the past year (search slashdot for Roland Piquepaille), he probably makes quite a decent living over his "research" and "journalism".

    5. Re:STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RP is really Cmdr Taco just ginning up some extra income.

  9. An Actual Reality by zmilo · · Score: 0

    Can't...get...slashdot...out...of...my...head...

  10. I hate Slashdot so much...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's like Jerry Springer for geeks. Please kill me.

    1. Re:I hate Slashdot so much...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Whoooo

    2. Re:I hate Slashdot so much...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " It's like Jerry Springer for geeks. Please kill me."

      Ok. Where do you live? :)

  11. Oh yeah? by cghancock01 · · Score: 1

    Does anybody remember the Discovery Channel show "Beyond 2000?" Does anybody have a flyin car yet?

  12. Evidence that this will happen includes... by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

    Athleats with normal 20/20 vision getting laser caritotimy to correct their vision to higher acuity than 'normal' 20/15 or 20/10.

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    1. Re:Evidence that this will happen includes... by spac3manspiff · · Score: 1

      thus pushes the question, what will be normal then?

    2. Re:Evidence that this will happen includes... by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 2, Insightful
      thus pushes the question, what will be normal then?

      20/20 vision.

      It's not an absolute system of measurement, but it's one relative to the general populace. If, at some underermined point in the future, just about everyone's got their eyes redone so that they have 20/10 vision by our standards, they'd have 20/20 by their own because the average person would see clearly, at 20 feet, just what any other average person would see at 20 feet.

      -PS

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  13. 3n1arg3 yur p3n1s!1!1! by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Funny

    You'll see that some people are so convinced that [these] kind of human enhancements will happen...

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, I keep getting email about "human enhancements".

    But no nanobot is going to make this geek cool. ;)

  14. No More Roland!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This Roland Piquepaille stuff is getting on my nerves. There is obviously some kind of either backdoor deal, or favoritism for this guy getting stories.

    Where is your journalistic integrity?

    Hey Slashdot! I feel like having the option to block this guy out on my Edit Home Page [slashdot.org] Page. I mean, he has more submissions than "samzenpus," whoever the hell that is.

    Don't force me to write a RSS filter that blocks phrasewords out. I'm feeling too lazy atm.

  15. Interesting... by zwilliams07 · · Score: 1

    /humming the Ghost In The Shell theme

    1. Re:Interesting... by Smidge204 · · Score: 1

      Hey, we have another 25 years for that...

      Even if we never get the cyberbrains, I won't be upset as long as I get my Tachikoma.
      =Smidge=

  16. Already split... by rainman_bc · · Score: 4, Funny

    , all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'"

    Isn't that the difference between pro and amateur?

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    1. Re:Already split... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      , all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'"

      Isn't that the difference between pro and amateur?

      I suspect most amateurs are 'enhanced' these days as well. Hell, most of the guys down at the local gym are enhanced.

    2. Re:Already split... by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 1

      Are all sporting events split up to accomodate athletes on steriods and those who are clean? I don't see why the enhanced/unenhanced would be any different.

    3. Re:Already split... by really? · · Score: 1

      Not all. Actually, sadly, ENTIRELY to few.
      But, there are some "clean" events. I remember seeing, of all things, a clean body building contest somewhere.

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    4. Re:Already split... by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 1

      I recall some international body building event years ago banned steriod use. What ended up happening was that the spectator complained that the contestants sucked. So the next year steroids were allowed again and all the bigger guys entered again.

  17. Give me... by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

    Eyes that zoom and see in the infrared spectrum (and hope my brain adapts, or at least gives me a color overlay of heat) when it gets dark and faster reflexes, and I will be happy.

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    1. Re:Give me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know. Those "add three inches" emails will start to take on a whole new meaning.

  18. In the year 2000 by Viper168 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hear that by the year 2000 we'll even have flying cars!

    To the future!

    1. Re:In the year 2000 by bozojoe · · Score: 1

      And they fold up into briefcases you can carry (with enchanced muscles)!!

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    2. Re:In the year 2000 by Viper168 · · Score: 1

      Oh, those.

      Uh, I've already got one, you see. It's very nice-a.

    3. Re:In the year 2000 by pnaro · · Score: 1

      Just because you didn't get yours yet, doesn't mean the rest of us aren't laughing at you! You probably believe you are going to get laid sometime too!

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    4. Re:In the year 2000 by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      He said he's already got one!

  19. Steve Austin. Astronaut. A man barely alive. by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Steve Austin will be that man. Better than he was before. Better ... stronger ... faster.
    /obligatory

    1. Re:Steve Austin. Astronaut. A man barely alive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And let's call the new Austin: Austin Powers!

    2. Re:Steve Austin. Astronaut. A man barely alive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We'll have bionic people in 30 years" ...a statement that is as true today as it was 30 years ago.

    3. Re:Steve Austin. Astronaut. A man barely alive. by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, 6-million doesn't go very far these days. We figure we might be able to replace a few fingers for that amount.

  20. DANGER WILL ROBINSON! by RileyLewis · · Score: 0

    Rolando Alert!

  21. The real question.... by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In thirty years, will Roland Piquepaille still be spamming Slashdot?

    Cheers,

    b&

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    1. Re:The real question.... by Compulawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

      I wish I could mod this +10,000 - Says what needed to be said.

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    2. Re:The real question.... by alerante · · Score: 0, Troll

      Why the uproar? There is not a single link to Roland's blog in the article text.

    3. Re:The real question.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      His name is the link to his website, suckassssssssss.

  22. Steroids? by kaedemichi255 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are athletes being "enhanced" right now. In my opinion, although those certain biotech innovations are probably not realistically going to arrive in the mass market in just a few decades, perhaps the use of technology in the medicinal/health sectors will spur the development of new ways of practicing traditional medicine that may ultimately have the same effect as the sci-fi-ish inventions we dream about.

  23. They said the same thing in the 50s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "In 2000, Everyone will have flying cars and take vacations to Saturn and have their robo-maid make breakfast!"

  24. Grey goo by onyxruby · · Score: 1

    Any time I see nanotech discussed I always see someone panicing about "grey goo". Could someone please explain to me the whole "grey goo" phobia?

    1. Re:Grey goo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunno, perhaps it's a reference to some old scifi movie, in black and white. Where goo of other colors (green) would have been grey on screen.

    2. Re:Grey goo by Eccles · · Score: 1

      The grey goo concept is a nanobot that does nothing but self-replicate, or at least does the best approximation with the material at hand. The fear is such a creation would turn everything, including anything intended to stop it, into more grey goo.

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    3. Re:Grey goo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's the basic idea:

      If there is malevolent, autonomous nanotechnology with a built in system for energy mining (like eating your face), we basically have no way to see it, fight it, etc.

      It's scary to think about fighting things we can't see.

    4. Re:Grey goo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The idea is that some mythical "self-replicating" nano-bot will do just that, copying it self at a exponential rate (since the copies are all busy copying themselves as well).

      With exponential growth, they would quickly consume the entire earth.

      Not gonna happen.

    5. Re:Grey goo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's scary to think about fighting things we can't see.

      Ever heard of cancer? Yeah, it is scary.

  25. Such things as this could cause war. by Punboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gene Roddenberry predicted a war between enhanced humans and regular humans. Remember? Khan? And then there was another war like that later in the 21st century I think. Either way, both sides had significant casualties. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened, would you?

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    1. Re:Such things as this could cause war. by TLLOTS · · Score: 2, Funny

      Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

      Sorry, couldn't resist :P

    2. Re:Such things as this could cause war. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember? Khan?

      Remember? How could I forget? Khan!

    3. Re:Such things as this could cause war. by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 1
      Gene Roddenberry predicted a war between enhanced humans and regular humans.

      And, of course, Roddenberry was a clear-eyed pragmatist with an accurate and not-at-all moralist view of what the future would - er, I mean should - involve...

      -PS

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    4. Re:Such things as this could cause war. by Moderatbastard · · Score: 0
      Gene Roddenberry predicted a war between enhanced humans and regular humans.
      It's a common theme. There are the Sauron supermen in the most excellent "Motie" bilogy by Niven & Pournelle and the Titans early in the Dune universe. They seem to always get too big for their boots, enslave the ordinary people and there's a revolt.

      There are probably examples in classical mythology too - I suppose indeed you could interpret the division between gods and mortals in such a way.

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  26. This is just a dream, Fale Expectations..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most folks who get cancer, pak, ALS, alhemizers, and other terminal diseases died from them within a few years. Yet, this article is offering medical expectations that weren't even possible on star trek... Come on down to earth for the new year celebration.

    1. Re:This is just a dream, Fale Expectations..... by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 1
      Most folks who get cancer, pak, ALS, alhemizers, and other terminal diseases died from them within a few years. Yet, this article is offering medical expectations that weren't even possible on star trek..

      Cell phones, circuit breakers, useful computer security, and convinient flashlights are all impossible on Star Trek. Roddenberry also like to believe in other bullshit, like "some technologies are evil," and handwove them out of his setting via blanket bans so he wouldn't have to trouble his utopia with controversy.

      Christ, people, it's a mediocre television show with poorly-done science and technology, not the yardstick by which feasibility should be determined. Why not read a book or something, instead of using popular television to tell you what can and cannot be done?

      -PS

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    2. Re:This is just a dream, Fale Expectations..... by Tolookah · · Score: 1

      Cell phones, circuit breakers, useful computer security, and convinient flashlights are all impossible on Star Trek.
      You forgot the one impossibile feature that made many star trek episodes possible... computer backups.

      Unless the federation was really a galaxy wide DRM scheme...

    3. Re:This is just a dream, Fale Expectations..... by Moderatbastard · · Score: 0
      Cell phones, circuit breakers, useful computer security, and convinient flashlights are all impossible on Star Trek.
      Not to mention a hidden panic button to beam an away team up immediately, before the guards who've just spotted them have time to react & capture them.

      Oh, and seatbelts.

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  27. Coming to spam you... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

    Viagrabots!

  28. Sports, sports, so what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who couldn't care less what happens to spectator sports? These technologies will have such a broad impact, the effect on spectator sports is very near to be one of the least interesting ones...

  29. Pilots by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 3, Funny

    What would this mean for pilots, given the strict perfect vision/no eye damage requirements they have?

    And, more importantly, when can I get razor blades that shoot out from under my fingernails?

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    1. Re:Pilots by GoogleBot · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...And, more importantly, when can I get razor blades that shoot out from under my fingernails?

      Im not sure about that, but on a related note, anyone know where I can find a cowboy named Case?

      Apparently, he may be able to do some work for me...

  30. Kurzweil foresaw this. by FireballX301 · · Score: 0

    I have a copy of 'The Age of Spiritual Machines' by Ray Kurzweil, and he essentially predicts that organic systems and bodies will be outmoded within a century. Personally, I find this vision disturbing, and am personally against add-ons that don't 'repair' the human body. I'm by no means religious, but there has to be some pride in using what was given to you by luck of the draw to the best of your abilities.

    But full cyborgs are bound to exist sooner or later.

    1. Re:Kurzweil foresaw this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're more than welcome to not become cyborgified. Just don't let your beliefs stop the rest of us from physically improving ourselves. Personally, I'll be up for an improved eyesight, memory capacity, cognitive capacity, calculative ability, metabolic system, and possibly even strength (though the others take precedence).

    2. Re:Kurzweil foresaw this. by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Personally, I find this vision disturbing, and am personally against add-ons that don't 'repair' the human body. I'm by no means religious, but there has to be some pride in using what was given to you by luck of the draw to the best of your abilities.

      Pfft, you were born into a developed country with twentieth-century medical technology. You're way past using what was given to you by the luck of the draw to the best of your abilities.

      Incidentally, if you are in favor of using what was given to you by random chance, then why aren't you against modifications which repair the human body?

      I've never understood the idea that the form homo sapiens has had since it first evolved is somehow sacrosanct. It isn't. It's even less so in a technological society. Our bodies aren't special at all, if anything they're kind of mediocre. The mind is what's important, and people aren't going to be less human because they have better reflexes, or vision, or panimmunity, or whatever-else-have-you. Yet I keep hearing claims that they are, or that if they aren't it's bad anyway, and I've yet to hear a reason that doesn't come down to "it's just wrong, alright?"

      -PS

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    3. Re:Kurzweil foresaw this. by LGEKoji · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Would it not make more sense to prefer augmentation, for it is MAN'S achievement, MAN'S success, and MAN'S work to take pride in, not something happenstance? What pride can be taken in the luck of the draw? What have you to be proud of, when you have done nothing but been left victim of evolution, given a body inferior to your passions and desires, simply because of bad luck? And what greater way to be proud of mankind's accomplishments than to BECOME it's accomplishment?

      I think you just fear being dehumanized. But you shouldn't. Machine's are the most human things there are, for they are the children of humanities efforts, not nature's. Nothing can be more human than that which nature has failed to do but we have. Nothing. Every cyborg, every AI, everything we create, THEY are who and what we are. Not our bodies, not are flesh and bone, that's incidental.

  31. 30 years ago... by jr87 · · Score: 1

    we said something similar....I want my colony on mars damnit!

  32. We won't have a choice by omnirealm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nanobots injected in our bloodstream will complement our immune system.



    Actually, I do not think we will have a choice in the matter on this one. Before too long, there will be hostile (or just poorly designed and self-replicating) nanobots that will kill us when they get into our bodies. We will need some sort of immediate defense against this new threat; if anything, an outbreak caused by a malicious type of nanobot will spurn the development of the nanobot that complements our immune system and defends against the malicious nanobot. This sort of thing has long been addressed in science fiction novels, but it seems like something that is closer than we might imagine.

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    1. Re:We won't have a choice by oGMo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Before too long, there will be hostile (or just poorly designed and self-replicating) nanobots that will kill us when they get into our bodies.

      I dunno. I don't see a big difference between this and a biological weapon, except that biological agents are cheaper and easier to develop. Why bother with nanotechnology when a simple plague will do? Or for the individual, just a well-placed bullet?

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    2. Re:We won't have a choice by fbartho · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking... not only will we be worrying about biological warfare, but we will have to deal with the fact that there will be nanocale mechanical viruses to worry about as well... Crazily programmable ones at that...

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    3. Re:We won't have a choice by Xuther · · Score: 1

      Here's todays download, thanks for using MS anti-nano-virus.

    4. Re:We won't have a choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Atomic scale infective /destructive machines - they're called viruses.

      The antidote is a machine called an antibody.

      The current technology is all wet because it's easier to provide for its energy needs that way.

    5. Re:We won't have a choice by Moocowsia · · Score: 1

      Ahh.. So soon well be getting ECM booster shots and have EMP therapy. Great.

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    6. Re:We won't have a choice by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      I told my younger sister (who hated the idea of nanotech, and is slowly coming to appreciate it) something very similar about a year ago: we will be infected by nanomachines and we will be powerless to do anything about it.

      The government currently mandates vaccination for your child if your child is to attend public school.

      Next generation's vaccinations will include nanobots to keep the human healthy. And dependent on the government.

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    7. Re:We won't have a choice by Genza · · Score: 0

      I agree. The old-fashioned means that people have to kill each other are much more cost-effective.

  33. Enchanceds' competition already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's called Paralympics.

  34. Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much would all these implants cost? I could see them going for more than most people could afford.

  35. Sporting is like that now - just make it official by Zarhan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'"

    Judging by the number of athletes that get caught for using different kinds of doping substances at every major event, this is reality right now.

    I have been wondering if we should do a split now; ie. have separate races for "boosted" athletes and another series for "traditional". The boosted version could have all kinds of medical companies as sponsors...Think of that bodybuilder with Pfizer tattooed on his muscles. Of course, life expectancy drops to around 30 years until the heart explodes, but at least you get famous.

    Maybe they could even have separate points for "athletes" and "teams" like in motorsports. Teams would have loads of MDs coming up with better and more powerful stuff...

    Since I really don't care about traditional sporting events at all, but this version might be fun to watch from an (bio-)engineering point of view.

  36. Check the patents! by payndz · · Score: 1

    Artificial muscles? Bionic eyes? If the name 'Genom Corp' or 'Brian J Mason' is attached to any of the patents, then by 2032 (or 2040, if you prefer) we might have more to worry about than athletes cheating at the Olympics!

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  37. The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by ewanrg · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Personally, the two enhancements I'm looking forward to are:

    1) Augmented memory. No more forgetting names or passwords. Though it does add some real interesting issues for DRM (can you force me to forget a movie after remembering it X times)

    2) Direct connect to the net - the ability to check GPS to figure out what I might be looking at, or the apocryphal doing google searches when asked a question would be very useful.

    Just my .02 worth...

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    1. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 1
      You can already do these.

      1) Augmented memory. No more forgetting names or passwords.

      Actually, mnemonic techniques give you that, you know, like those 'memory man' guys that can remember the names of the entire audience? That's how they do that.

      2) Direct connect to the net

      I already have that :-)

      - the ability to check GPS to figure out what I might be looking at,

      Geocaching and it's kin?

      or the apocryphal doing google searches when asked a question would be very useful.

      I used to do that in audio conference meetings, I would sit at my desk and be online at the same time. Really cool.

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    2. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by Wylfing · · Score: 1
      the two enhancements I'm looking forward to are: Augmented memory [and] Direct connect to the net

      I don't doubt this will be possible in less than 20 years, thirty easily. But think about it for a second. You're talking about your memory being a node on the network. A server. The data stream from your eyes and ears can be online, instantly, replicated, stored in petabyte RAIDs somewhere. Likewise, you will be able to "remember" sights and sounds by pulling them off the network.

      What we're going through now viz. intellectual property is just the warm-up round to the main event, where big IP holders try to regulate your eyes, ears, and brain. The Thought Police are going to have their day.

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    3. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by flamechocobo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The direct connection to the net would pose some problems in schoools, where the richer kids would have that acess to Google and basically get answers subconsciously. Would this be fair? No. It would be just like the cell phone text messaging situation today.

    4. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Being able to remember everything has its downsides too. It is relatively basic psychology, where it is healthy to forget things to an extent.

      There are memory techniques, it's not easy, but easy is too much to expect, otherwise, I bet there would be problems with that too.

    5. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 0

      You could always just delete the bad stuff. ;)

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    6. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by ithicine · · Score: 3, Informative

      1) Augmented memory. No more forgetting names or passwords. Though it does add some real interesting issues for DRM (can you force me to forget a movie after remembering it X times)

      I find choline and piracetam works remarkably well for this purpose. At higher dosages, I find my memory can be enhanced to the point of being photographic; furthermore, it leaves my mind unnaturally limber and quick. The effects remind me of what I like best about dextroamphetamine (or even low dose methamphetamine), minus the body load, addiction potential, and obvious "speedy" effect.

      It's classed as a nootropic drug, and fits the bill perfectly.

    7. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Paper and electronic storage fit. They require using your eyes instead of working internally.

      2) Yeah, cool.

    8. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by DiscoOnTheSide · · Score: 1

      teach em in a faraday cage. That'll stop the little fuckers from cheating. :)

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    9. Re:The Two I'm Looking Forward to are by Genza · · Score: 0

      You could always just delete the bad stuff. ;)

      I learned from Vanilla Sky that this is a bad idea. I learn most of my life lessons from TV and movies.

  38. Allready here by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

    "all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes"

    I recall a comedian talking about performance enhancing drugs and the people who say it is ok for an athlete to enhance their performances with any means they can. His response was "Ok, you enhance yourself with steroids, I'll enhance myself with this motor car."

    I am an athlete that is enhanced by being encased in metal in which my power is increased to several hundred hp.

    PS: "happy new beer" "Crappy glue fear" "Snappy blue gear" whatever.

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  39. It's not a bug, it's a feature by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As an interesting aside, I have said this before on Slashdot, but human eyes are pretty pathetic in terms of their sophistication. Birds, fish and many reptiles have much more sophisticated retinas that perceive what we would term a multi-spectral visual world. A visual scene much richer that the simple three-space world we currently see.

    Evolution gives organisms the tools they need to survive, not necessarily what those organsims might put down on their wish lists. The ability to sense the world in such detail is much more important to the survival of those creatures than it is for human beings. This is a feature, not a bug. Since this is slashdot, I'm going to assume that you are very familiar with the epsiode in Star Trek where Kirk outmaneuvers aliens with vastly superior intellect and technology. How does he do it? In order to operate the Enterprise, these creatures had to fit themselves into human bodies which have senses that are much more hightened than those of their normal form. Kirk simply overloads their senses to the point that they can't think straight. Just yesterday we had an article here on slashdot about how people are having trouble dealing with the flood of new information available to them. Be thankful that our eyes are more limited than those of birds, fish, and their ilk. Our brains are already having trouble keeping up with the world around us. The day we start seeing in the IR and UV parts of the spectrum, that'll be all the more for us to process on a second-by-second basis.

    Good luck with the research. I'm gratified to know that at least someone thinks that this technology should be used first to assist those who are disabled and then used to give super-powers to the rich. All too often medical research caters to stupid things like baldness cures instead of focusing on cures of cancer and Alzheimer's.

    GMD

    1. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by mshurpik · · Score: 0

      Yes, and whats ironic is that the sensory overload of modern life is precisely what causes vision loss.

      The only alternate theory Ive heard (back in high school) is genetic, which doesnt explain why vision loss is present in a majority of the population. Surely we didnt evolve this way in the past 2-400 years (since the invention of glasses).

      In any case, human vision is more capable than that of many animals (nice troll). But rabbits dont watch TV, therefore, rabbits dont need to wear glasses.

    2. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Schemat1c · · Score: 1

      Since this is slashdot, I'm going to assume that you are very familiar with the epsiode in Star Trek where Kirk...
      ...The day we start seeing in the IR and UV parts of the spectrum, that'll be all the more for us to process on a second-by-second basis.

      Well, since you're using Star Trek as an example, Geordi La Forge didn't seem to have any problems with his enhanced vision.

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    3. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Evolution didn't give animals good enough eyesight to keep them off the highways!

    4. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Insightful
      the sensory overload of modern life is precisely what causes vision loss.

      It is? Is there evidence of that, or are you just guessing?

    5. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Xuther · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not true, there are examples of him going to sickbay because using the VISOR gives him headaches, he had to be trained to interpret what the colors and patterns meant, and that takes a lot of time and effort. He was one of a handful of people who could successfully use it.

    6. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by BWJones · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, and whats ironic is that the sensory overload of modern life is precisely what causes vision loss.

      Nonsense. And why yes, I am a vision scientist.

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    7. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by rcani · · Score: 1

      a vision scientist? really? your a rare breed. there are a lot of laymen and a fair complement of optometrists, but very few vision scientists. very few.

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    8. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, and whats ironic is that the sensory overload of modern life is precisely what causes vision loss.

      Actually, it's masturbation that does it.

    9. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure that strain is the same as overload. We didn't evolve to spend all our time reading and staring at computer screens, true. But we lose certain abilities as we age because we age and not because we wouldn't rather have those abilities.

      And 'vision loss' is too general to be described so generally. We may strain our eyes staring at things close to the screen and thus become nearsighted, but problems like floaters, macular degeneration, etc. are not caused by sensory overload.

      The point the parent made is valid. Humans see in three (or in the case of tetrachromats, four) channels of color. Some animals see in as many as 16.

      Evolution is adaptive. It does enough to let us get by, but if there isn't much selective pressure to develop an ability (and the capacity to reach it in small steps) evolution just isn't going to improve us. Bacteria which are only exposed to 70 degree temperatures will die if exposed to sudden temperature chages. Bacteria routinely exposed to temperature changes will be able to endure them. Animals which don't require good vision to survive won't get it.

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    10. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by BWJones · · Score: 1

      Funny, truly funny.

      However, it would have been even funnier if you were a little more subtle about it. Perhaps something like...."Gee, that's not what my parents told me about going blind....that and something about hairy palms."

      Mod parent up.

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    11. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee, that's not what my parents told me about going blind....that and something about hairy palms.

    12. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by sabaco · · Score: 1

      Not true! My rabbit, Nibbler, http://www.nibblerbunny.com/ watches TV all the time!

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    13. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Evolution gives organisms the tools they need to survive, not necessarily what those organsims might put down on their wish lists.

      "You go to the birth canal with the eyes you have, not the eyes you might want or wish to have."

    14. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yes, and whats ironic is that the sensory overload of modern life is precisely what causes vision loss.

      Who farted into your brain today? Have you sucked CmdrTaco's dick too long or where did you get your fucked-up clueless ideas you moron?

    15. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1
      And I suppose you're a slashdot "correct-people-to-make-myself-sound-smart" drone. All too common, I'm afraid.

      Unless my context-insensitive eyes misread joviality for harsh criticism. In which case I apologize profusely.

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    16. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm going to assume that you are very familiar with the epsiode in Star Trek where Kirk outmaneuvers aliens with vastly superior intellect and technology. How does he do it?"

      I'm not a trekkie, but as far as I recall he either has sex with them or gets them to blow up in a shower of faulty logic.

    17. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, as far as I'm aware, both I and my subconscious mind like smooth pictures better than crisp ones. Therefore any attempt to "correct" the focus by optics will result in further "degradation" of my vision as my brains *refuse* to focus.

      Do vision scientists actually consider possibilities like this?

    18. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by BinxBolling · · Score: 1
      Our brains are already having trouble keeping up with the world around us. The day we start seeing in the IR and UV parts of the spectrum, that'll be all the more for us to process on a second-by-second basis.

      Our nervous systems seem to be quite capable of learning to filter out extra detail when it's not needed.

      Do you wear corrective lenses? Do you remember what it was like when you first started wearing them? When I started using correctives (especially contact lenses), I found myself astounded at all the extra detail around me: separate blades of grass instead of a green blur, being able to count the bricks on buildings in the middle-distance. For the first few days, I found it hard to concentrate on anything but this amazingly detailed visual world around me.

      But that effect wore off, as I got used to it and my brain learned to ignore all those details when they weren't useful to me. I'd be very surprised if augmented senses were much different -- for the first few days we might suffer overload, but we would adjust.

    19. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by rcani · · Score: 1

      merely making the comment that i have known a lot of optomitrists but never have any of them refered to themselves as vision scientists. read this however you.

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    20. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can remember in the news a while back there was a russian girl who was able to see in either normal vision, or a kind of x-ray-stylé vision. Anyway, she was learning to be a medical student and there were several tests done to prove the authenticity of it all, she correctly managed to predict that somebody was going to catch cancer, amonst other seemingly impossible feats. I can't recall the best source so I'll leave a google link so you can read for yourselfs. She seemed to be coping pretty well for someone with xray and normal vision, capabilities to swap between the two easily and learn to be a medical student.

    21. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      read this however you.

      How about I read it that you jump to dumb conclusions and then smugly assume you're right?

    22. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he means that wanking makes you go blind, you stupid kraut.

    23. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by rcani · · Score: 1

      then you would be wrong but would probobly feel better.

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    24. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that the focusing in our eyes is done by muscles... which get stronger with use... but atrophy like the other muscles in our body with old age.

    25. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Magi55 · · Score: 1

      Aboute developement. I have developed a type of cheat-teleportation. I have in my exam at my university in Sweden (LTH) shown and build a simpel system so that anyone can remotecontroll a camerarobot over the internet with very small delay and a acceptabel videotream in realtime. So I am aboute to build robots with camerapairs in eyelevel and the robots will be able to be placed all over the world where there is wlan and other wireless datatrandfersystems. I can for instance place a camrobot in New York and anyone in the world can logg in and walk around in New York to shopp or take a turist-tour. You will be equiped with a pair of googles so you will be able to get a 3d view. You will be able to controll a pair of arms with fingers and you will have a swetter with gloves for the coordination so you can grab things or people. I am planing on using satelitemobilephon to transmitt signal soon and there will soon be no limits to on a global scale. You can try my prototype 2 if you contact me. Read more at www.gamereality.se You will soon be able to be anywhere, emediately. I just need to build a lot of camrobots. Do you want to be somewere else, in no time, let me build you a camrobot. Regards Magi

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    26. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Scrameustache · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I can remember in the news a while back there was a russian girl who was able to see in either normal vision, or a kind of x-ray

      Yes yes, and there's this chinese guy that can read from his armpit, and this guy Raël who's Jesus's half brother and... how gullible are you, exactly?

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    27. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 1

      Yea, theres two ways to look at everything. How guillable am I, or how narrow-minded are you?

      As many articles state, scientists have been unable to disprove her claims, which seems rather strange for such a thing. It seems fairly logical to me that if people are born with several kind of 'disorders', for example, the story about the german 'superman' baby which could heavy weights with his arm held out straight because he was born with an extremely rare genetic problem which stopped his body producing as much myostatin (the hormone that stops muscles from growing too fast), iirc. There's synaesthesia, where people can taste words when they are said to them, or see numbers and colours when certain other things happen, like a word being said, or a memory. There's all kinds of gifts or genetic 'mutations' that give a few rare people all kind of abilities or strange experiences.

      I've read all the evidence I need to believe it for myself, you on the other hand just brush it off without a valid explanation apart from the I can't do it so it can't be done stance. Take it however you want, I'm just relaying relevant information.

    28. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      the german 'superman' baby which could heavy weights

      More muscles than normal babies, no problem believing that.

      synaesthesia

      Can be replicated with LSD, no problem believing that.

      scientists have been unable to disprove her claims

      Powers that would make her a usefull member of the Xmen team? That I have problems with. ESPECIALLY if all the articles supporting this are from backwards hicks.

      Look at how many lazy journalist keep repeating that that fraud Kevin Warwick is the "first cyborg".
      "Scientists" have ben unable to disprove her claim? Really? Wow! That's enough for me! If some unseen, anonymous, self proclaimed scientists are convinced, I'm sold!

      Which is more likely: That girl has x-ray vision, or the guy telling you she does is a sensionalist, gullible hack?

      I've read all the evidence I need to believe it for myself, you on the other hand just brush it off without a valid explanation apart from the I can't do it so it can't be done stance. Take it however you want, I'm just relaying relevant information.

      Well, you are WAY off on my philosophy, and all your evidence is anecdotal.
      I brush it off because they don't have a valid explanation, or valid proof. Just repeated claims, unverified.

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    29. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Snaller · · Score: 1

      So why do our eyes get worse?

      And is there any truth to the notion that one can *train* ones eyes better?

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    30. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by BWJones · · Score: 1

      So why do our eyes get worse?

      They do not necessarily have to. The other thing that you have to consider is that there are two principal items that can "go wrong" in your eyes that lead to vision problems. 1) The lens. This becomes less elastic as we age and because of this, we have problems focusing. Depending upon the shape of the lens, people have problems focusing near or far or both. These problems can be fixed by reshaping the lens. The other major problem is 2) retinal problems such as retinitis pigmentosa, macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy etc.... Currently there are no cures for these diseases, however, one can eat right with a balanced diet and consume lots of vegetables and fruits to help keep your eyes healthy. Also wear good quality sunglasses with UV protection as that seems to limit the damage due to free radicals. We are working on cures, but they are some years out.

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    31. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Snaller · · Score: 1

      ) The lens. This becomes less elastic as we age and because of this, we have problems focusing. Depending upon the shape of the lens, people have problems focusing near or far or both. These problems can be fixed by reshaping the lens.

      And how do you reshape the lens? Is that surgery or "exercise"?

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    32. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by BWJones · · Score: 1

      And how do you reshape the lens? Is that surgery or "exercise"?

      Unfortunately, surgery. Lasik or similar facsimile.

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  40. "science" + "fiction" by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thirty years from now, we'll use bionic eyes [...] science fiction? Not at all.

    When you're making predictions about the future, hypothetical applications of current scientific research, you are making science fiction!

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    1. Re:"science" + "fiction" by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      " you are making science fiction!"

      So? Cellular phones and handheld computers were science fiction at a time.

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    2. Re:"science" + "fiction" by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      So? Cellular phones and handheld computers were science fiction at a time.

      Exactly

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  41. Star Trek geekout by istewart · · Score: 1

    Originally, the Eugenics Wars were set in the late 21st century (around 1996), according to "Space Seed." The war later in the 21st century was from a throwaway line in a DS9 episode, and a blatant attempt to make up for the fact that the Eugenics Wars didn't really happen. :)

    Greg Cox has lately authored a good series of ST novels on the Eugenics Wars. He recasts it as a kind of "behind-the-scenes" thing centered around real life events. The enhancements to Khan and his bretheren mainly seem to focus on muscle strength and cognitive abilities, not necessarily any enhanced optics or anything the article's talking about. Perhaps designer gene modification to one's unborn offspring will become popular, but that would probably be far more dangerous than bionics.

    1. Re:Star Trek geekout by Courageous · · Score: 1

      Originally, the Eugenics Wars were set in the late 21st century (around 1996), ...

      Um, I'm sure you know you're stuff, but I'm also sure that 1996 was part of the late 20th century....

      ???

      C/

    2. Re:Star Trek geekout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you know you're stuff

      "your".

  42. Same joke many times by sam_handelman · · Score: 1

    Who cares about being able to bench cars? Admit to yourself how rarely this would be useful and grow as a human being.

    Of course, usefulness has little to do with the first cybernetic implant on *my* christmas list in 2020.

    The Mr Stud's Implant.

    Every robot will have a 12" steel johnson.

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    1. Re:Same joke many times by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      Well, the Bench Press has a small carryover to punching power (small because the hips and torso play a more important role), so, benching a car + increased strength in other areas = scary punching strength. That would be pretty useful.

      You want karate?

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    2. Re:Same joke many times by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      benching a car + increased strength in other areas = scary punching strength

      That kind of strenght augments your pushing power, not your impact power. The higher the velocity, the greater the impact.

      The bigger your muscles, the more inertia they have, and you only have a limited distance to accelerate...

    3. Re:Same joke many times by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      Yes, but if your muscle fibers have been fine tuned to fire near simultaneously with conditioning and training (i.e. explosive exercises), you can bring the full force to bear. Kinda like how olympic lifters have amazing vertical leaps because they can use a lot of their hamstring/gluteal muscle fibers near instantly.

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    4. Re:Same joke many times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares about being able to bench cars?

      There's a man in my town that once bench pressed the back end of a Volkswagon. Apart from him being a really good guy, I always figured that if I were going to get trapped under a car, it'd be nice for him to be standing there. For that matter, since I'm always where I am, it'd be nice if I could bench press a car.

      I've heard stories (this time not sure if they're true) about how much of an effect adrenaline has: tiny housewives who've never done any sort of strength training performing incredible amounts of strength when their children or husbands have been endangered.

      I certainly do not want to live in a world where the sentiment that "only policemen or firemen need augmented strength. Anyone else doesn't really have a need for it, and therefore they don't have a right to it" is government mandate.

    5. Re:Same joke many times by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      I've heard stories (this time not sure if they're true) about how much of an effect adrenaline has: tiny housewives who've never done any sort of strength training performing incredible amounts of strength when their children or husbands have been endangered.

      I have no doubt they are true. The human body is capable of so much more than people realize. In high stress situations like that, your brain will turn off its "brakes", which is a defense mechanism to make sure you do not injure yourself from lifting an object you are not ready for (in terms of ligament and tendon strength). In situations like that, the fear of injury (both concious and subconcious) is gone, and your body allows more muscle fibers in a given muscle to "express themselves", increasing strength dramatically. Certain drugs seem to have the same effect. (Anecdotes from police officers dealing with PCP crazed drug users)

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  43. ignorance of underlying biology by lukesl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I feel like I see articles like this all the time, and the underlying current is one of thinking that there are all these engineering breakthroughs that will make things that operate better than the native biological system. Engineers often tend to think this way, not unlike the carpenter who thinks the moon is made of wood. As a biologist, I may be somewhat guilty of the opposite bias, but the truth of the matter is that engineers have seldom been able to make materials and machines that operate as well as their biological counterparts. For example, artificial joints and teeth are all vastly inferior to their biological counterparts, and they will be for a while yet.

    My point is that human enhancement will occur, but this article grossly underestimates the role molecular biology will have in the near future. For example, to make soldiers with more endurance, you could try replacing their blood with an artificial substitute, or you could give them recombinant erythropoeitin to increase their red blood cell count. The EPO injections are trivial (ask professional bicyclists), but after years and years of research, we still don't have an acceptable artificial blood substitute.

    As far as artificial muscles go...that is just ridiculous. To think that in 30 years we will be implanting stuff like that into peoples' bodies. We will be growing muscle tissue in vats and implanting long before we deal with artifical stuff. However, first we will be using relatively simple methods to locally control muscle growth (like small molecule inhibitors of receptors for hormones that inhibit muscle growth, etc.) That alone will be huge.

    I think the real lack of conceptual understanding has to do with the evolutionary perspective. Basically, humans are incredibly good at doing things that humans have to do in the wild, and the only easy enhancements that we can make are "enhancements" that actually decrease our fitness from the hunter-gatherer perspective. For example, stronger muscles require a huge food intake, so they're selected against. In this day and age, that's easy to get around, with steroids or other technologies. It's easy to increase endurance with EPO injections, but there are obvious problems (e.g. death) associated with that as well. People seem to think that it will be as easy to improve cognitive abilities or immune system function, but that's just wrong. Our brains and immune systems already operate pretty much at their optimum, and claims that we could simply inject "nanobots" that improve the function of either are ridiculously ignorant.

    1. Re:ignorance of underlying biology by MiLK_MD · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Decrease in fitness is relative to the enviroment. An organism that my be fit in one niche may be completely unsuited to survive in another. Humans are not the pinnacle of evolution; they are simply well suited to living in temperate climates on a planet with Earthlike qualities. Would humans survive "as is" on Mars? No. Humans for example do not have protective fur to walk with aplomb unassisted in arctic enviroments nor large lung capacities and high oxygen carrying capacities to plumb the depths of the ocean. I like to think of enhancements as adjuncts or logical extensions of adaptive responses. Enhancements would provide humans with the ability to explore heretofore difficult or unreachable places. And what is so ridiculous about artificial muscles? Human muscle has a finite upper bound with regards to strength vs. mass ratio. Certainly not the strongest nor most efficient stuff around. Could we not replace human muscle with a more efficient compound? (Some of my research deals with exactly this issue.) Stronger muscles do not necessarily imply greater energy intake: that can be achieved by increasing efficency, of which the human muscle is not a perfect example (think exothermia). And to state that our bodies already operate at their optimum, again there is the caveat that optimum is dependent on the environment and the task at hand. Enhancement in regards to recall/attention ability for example, is not only possible, but present (methylphenidate for example has been shown to increase cognitive function for "normal" people). Certainly there is room for "improvement." And there is also the issue of helping those that are diseased or disabled with respect to the norm. In this case can one not redefine enhancement as "repair?" As an aside, where is the differentiation between "nanobots" and "molecular biology." Targeted molecules, receptor specific proteins, cell mediated hormones..."nanobots!" they are simply points on a continuum.

    2. Re:ignorance of underlying biology by lukesl · · Score: 1

      I certainly don't disagree with anything you're saying. I think it all comes down to what the optimization problem is. Our brains could obviously be "smarter," but they're optimized for a certain level of energy consumption, as well as heat dissipation (which, as an aside, is very interesting).

      Re: efficiency of human muscle, I'm sure that hard core materials research will come up with something more efficient, but for now you have to admit that muscle is pretty good at what it does. What I'm saying is that it's a little ridiculous that people seem to think that we're going to be implanting artificial stuff in 30 years. There's still a lot of room for "improvement" of the native muscle, and that's what's going to happen first (on some level, it already has, with steroids).

      I totally agree with you about the fundamental issues, and I agree that something like Ritalin does help cognitive function (to paraphrase Lou Reed, ritalin: it's my life, it's my wife). However, I don't think that a primitive hunter-gatherer human on Ritalin would necessarily have a survival advantage over one not on ritalin. That all comes back to the idea of what's being optimized, and what I'm saying is that "improvements" to humans for the most part involve getting away from the evolutionary optimum as hunter-gatherers. All I'm saying is that people need to recognize this fact.

    3. Re:ignorance of underlying biology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Human muscle has a finite upper bound with regards to strength vs. mass ratio. Certainly not the strongest nor most efficient stuff around. Could we not replace human muscle with a more efficient compound?

      Ever seen hear of Triple Iron-Man contests? What other land based animal can do that?

  44. Here's another prediction by Alceste · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In thirty years slashdot will still be enamored with poorly researched, jargon infused, poorly written future-bation.

    1. Re:Here's another prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, though, can you even imagine what this site would be like in 30 years? Thirty-some years of really dorky jokes and references would be built up by then. I don't even get many of them now.

      Can you imagine looking at Slashdot every day for the next 30 years? Almost kind of depressing.

  45. Huh? by Gyan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You'll see that some people are so convinced that this kind of human enhancements will happen that they predict than in a few decades, all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'"

    What's the difference between enhanced and unenhanced?

    Isn't the athlete from a rich country with well-equipped training facilities, tailored nutrition and good trainers already an enhanced athlete compared to an athlete from some small 3rd world country?

    This dichotomy to what constitutes enhancement and what doesn't smacks of a medieval perspective of the human condition.

    1. Re:Huh? by Metagenki · · Score: 1

      No. There's a difference between somebody who is natural and somebody who has a modified body. Having better training facilities is not the same as being altered by drugs or especially engineering.

      I'm not religious, but I think this stuff is wrong and kinda scary.

    2. Re:Huh? by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

      There's an obvious difference between an athlete who is composed entirely of human tissue and one that has machines doing the work for them. I think that's what he meant by enhanced versus unenhanced.

      The other differences already exist and no one is arguing that sports should be separated into rich leagues and poor leagues.

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    3. Re:Huh? by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

      OK, fair enough: hand in your fillings, glasses and immunizations and proper nutrients from eating a good diet.

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    4. Re:Huh? by Gyan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having better training facilities is not the same as being altered by drugs or especially engineering.

      And what's the specified "natural growth vector" for a human? There is none. Ultimately, all change is biological. Only a distinction between socially acceptable vectors of change and unacceptable vectors.

    5. Re:Huh? by Metagenki · · Score: 1

      So you see no distinction between a part of the body that is man-made and one that isn't?

    6. Re:Huh? by Gyan · · Score: 1


      Only in historical and social terms, not as a fundamental distinction.

    7. Re:Huh? by web_boyo_in_sac · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because those Nigerian sprinters really train in well-equiped training facilities.

  46. Good.... by mikeswi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because I can't see across the friggin living room to the TV without my eyeglasses.....

    1. Re:Good.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why have the TV at all? Why not have a live feed coming from the TV straight into your brain?

  47. What? by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 3, Informative
    So you think it's science fiction? Not at all. You'll see that some people are so convinced that this kind of human enhancements will happen...

    I can go down to the local crystal shop as well and find people that are convinced the unicorns and fey folk are coming back - this doesn't make it any less fictitious.

    Sadly, in this world, wishing don't make it so.

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  48. Already have these things by bshellenberg · · Score: 2, Funny

    I didn't RTFA (just the news story) and from what is covered there, just grab some steroids, cocaine and some over-prescribed glasses. No need to wait.

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  49. Re:First post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's even sadder is that you fail it.

  50. Who the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is going to pay for all this?

  51. So? by Eudial · · Score: 1

    Some 40 years ago there were scientists that believed we'd have flying cars and a sightseeing trips to mars by now.

    My point is that you shouldn't believe everything you read.

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  52. If this is for real … by Compact+Dick · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... I will need a new handle.

  53. Prey (the novel) by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 1

    Anyone read Prey by Michael Crichton? I don't think this is such a good idea. The last place I want nanobots is in my bloodstream.

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  54. Enhanced Althetes=Better Hockey Fights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    think about it:

    While enchancing atheletes physical abilities will result in more interesting sports, it will also affect the atheletes behavior.

    If you make superhumans just to play games, and the atheletes now can't control their emotions, who's to say that the futurre will not lead to more devastating hockey fights and more bench-clearing and head-popping-off brawls.

    God forbid a facemask call in football will be changed to something out of Mortal Kombat, with a lineman holding up a bloodied quartebacks' helmeted head, and, the scoreborad saying: Gruntsberger Sets New Record for Quarterback Decaps!

    And, help us all, if the venues don't wall out the fans. A cyborged-up Ron Artest could wreak havoc even if the fans sneak in their beer cup cannon arm attachments.

    On the brighter side, maybe the sport of curling would be more interesting because there wouldn't be a need for brooms, instead participants would use their lizardified tongues to flick the puck down the ice, or something like that.

    Nonetheless, let the age of Mortal Kombat begin!!!!!!!

  55. The Postman by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    I suggest everyone read the book The Postman. The movie was loosely based on the book but leaves out the more interesting parts about human enhancements for military use and such. It's really quite a good book regardless to if you liked the movie or not.

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  56. Science Replaces Darwin by MBCook · · Score: 1
    This is definatly a good thing in my opinion. While it may cause trouble for sports (as the title says) it should help the rest of us.

    I think that the human race has basically reached the point where we aren't controlled by natural selection. Thanks to modern medicine we can save people who are in serious car wrecks and such, people who would otherwise be alive. But we also save people who have problems of their own doing or genetics. People get organ trasplants who are born with otherwise debilitating (and therefor fatal in "caveman times") or fatal (as in actually fatal) problems. We can help people who get sick even if the virus would otherwise kill them (see smallpox, polio, etc.) We can even save (prolong the life of) people WITHOUT an immune system (AIDS/HIV). People who would in "caveman times" (to use the term again) never survive (300+ pound people, diabetics, etc.)

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should stop helping people if we have the technology (that would be cruel, thus the problem). But because of our ability to save so many people and all the problems that people can get through today, there is very little genetic pressure (IMHO) on humans. Only more extreme problems genetics works on. We also see things that natural selection would never cure (like Alzehimers) because people are living so long.

    So it's a good thing that science will soon be able to improve things, because if we continue like this, what pressure is there to keep hemophelia from becomming common if we can find a cure for it (for example). I think this is one of the reasons that the eyesight of people seems to be declining. As glasses have gotten better and to be less of a problem (contacts, laser eye surgery), needed glasses at a young age isn't the problem it used to be (say 150-200 years ago). I think this is one of the reasons behind the "fatening of America" (although it's only a VERY tiny part, I think it's mostly a self-controll/diciplin issue).

    Just something to think about. I don't think I species would get much better if we were permanantly stuck at our current technological level. I think the health of the average person would actually DECLINE.

    The ability to have nano-bots that improve our immune system would be a great thing. Not only for those without it (AIDS/HIV/transplant paitents), but for normal people (never get sick, don't have to worry about Typhoid or Denge Fever or anything else, who needs a cure the nano bots could help). Things like that would be fantastic.

    Although 30 years seems a little optomistic to me. I'd guess closer to 50.

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  57. Will the nanobots need an OS? by michaeldot · · Score: 2, Funny

    If so, I sure as hell don't want Microsoft providing it.

  58. Top 10 for 30 years by Vague+but+True · · Score: 1
    Top 10 for 30 years

    10. MPAA/RIAA still threating to sue people who file-share music
    9. Where's the flying cars
    8. Everyone still hates the U.S.A.
    7. U.S.A. still looking for terrorists
    6. Still no colony on the moon
    5. 55 million people still can't believe Bush was re-elected in 2004
    4. 59 million people still telling the 55 million people above to get over it.
    3. New re-remake of Star Wars IV re-released. Han still doesn't shoot first.
    2. Microsoft still hasn't fixed their problems with IE

    And the number one Top 10 is....

    1. Slashdoters still can't get a girlfriend

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    1. Re:Top 10 for 30 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By 2035 all slashdotters should get over not having a girlfriend and each one should have a nice mare instead.

    2. Re:Top 10 for 30 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By 2035 all slashdotters should get over not having a girlfriend and each one should have a nice mare instead.

      No, slashdotters will all have a Cherry2000.

  59. Barry Bonds by TwicK80 · · Score: 1

    they predict than in a few decades, all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.

    Why wait to split up sporting events? We already have certain athletes who are enhanced....

  60. Not fiction if people convinced it will happen? by noidentity · · Score: 1

    So you think it's science fiction? Not at all. You'll see that some people are so convinced that this kind of human enhancements will happen that they predict than in a few decades, all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'

    So something isn't fiction if people are really convinced that it will take place in the future? Is the present so unbearable that living in a fictional future, and needing others to join in, is the only way to get by?

    Also, sporting events are already split up based on the use of "enhancements" (drugs): if you use 'em, you're not allowed in many of the events.

  61. who will watch the non-boosted events? by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have been wondering if we should do a split now; ie. have separate races for "boosted" athletes and another series for "traditional".

    ...and who's going to watch the non-boosted events? Will companies choose to sponsor the athletes setting records, or those who "just" take first place? Who will the networks cover?

    Do you think that Major League Baseball is asleep at the switch, when they tell their players months in advance about an upcoming drug test, and 50+ players STILL get caught doping, and MLB does nothing? Do you think the government is asleep at the switch when they don't subpoena the hell out of MLB and throw every druggie baseball player into the slammer?

    Phhbt. Dream on- MLB is thrilled at the doping. They "hate" it publicly, but privately they squeal like little children when Joe Dope smashes the baseball out of the park. Home runs and high scores bring in the crowds. Singles and scoreless games don't.

    ...And god forbid the government should interfere with baseball. It's a 'national pasttime'. It'd be like...messing with Apple Pie.

    1. Re:who will watch the non-boosted events? by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      just an FYI...

      The government can only mess with MLB because it established domain over it during the 30s and 40s when it stepped in to get rid of organized crime which had a big stake in gambling over games... sorry I'm not too educated on the subject but I do know that there is a connection there as opposed to the NFL which has no government oversight.. or the NBA or NHL.

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    2. Re:who will watch the non-boosted events? by cas2000 · · Score: 1

      > ...and who's going to watch the non-boosted
      > events?

      who cares? hardly anyone watches the international tiddlywinks championship now, but there's no-one calling for more exciting sports to be banned because they are unfairly more interesting

      if people want to watch it, they will. if they don't, they won't.

      > [...] throw every druggie baseball player into
      > the slammer?

      why? what, exactly, is wrong with people taking performance-enhancing drugs?

      i can see why it is wrong for coaches etc to encourage (or require!) child athletes to take risks with drugs (i.e. because informed consent is impossible), but i just can not see anything wrong with an informed adult choosing to take risks with their own body or mind. if they want to risk heart-attack from excessively thick blood (e.g. EPO) then let them - think of it as evolution in action. the really stupid ones will kill themselves off, which has got to be a good thing (especially if it happens before they breed).

      yes, it's "unfair" that enhanced athletes have an advantage over un-enhanced athletes. the solution is obvious - have "enhanced" and "un-enhanced" competitions. anyone can choose to move from U to E at any time, but if you're caught competing as U when you should be E, then you are banned from all further competition (in both U & E), and *ALL* titles and awards etc you may have won are stripped from you.

      of course, that still leaves a huge grey-area of deciding exactly what qualifies as enhanced. e.g. are spectacles an enhancement? if they are considered an "equaliser" to bring people with naturally bad eyesight to the same level as people with naturally good eyesight, then why is that any different to using steroids to bring "normal" people up to the same level as freaks with naturally high levels of testosterone or other androgens?

      if the difference is defined as being "what you were born with" vs "what you enhanced artificially", then that still leaves thousands of questions. e.g. is ridiculously excessive amounts of training an "unnatural" enhancement? what about children whose parents decided (in some future genetic engineering era) to splice in genes for gorilla or chimpanzee muscles? or more efficient blood? or enhanced lung capacity? or stronger bones (which would be essential for significantly stronger muscles anyway)? or just simple removal of common genetic defects?

      in any case, i don't see why it's any more "unfair" than the fact that some people are faster/stronger/smarter/etc than others.

      (admittedly, i may have an unusually unbiased perspective on this. i'm not in the least bit interested in any sport or sporting competitions or olympics or commonwealth games or any of the other massive money wasting events. personally, i think that the only possible justification for these events is if athletes are allowed to be guinea-pigs to field-test enhancements for the general population - and even then, there are far cheaper and far more effective ways of doing that, but at least we, the public, would get some return on the billions invested in these people)

  62. New version of PunkBuster by Uukrul · · Score: 1

    A new version of PunkBuster on-line cheat detector will detect when you are using bionic eyes for playing Quake XII with a FOV greater than 120.

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  63. Re:Sporting is like that now - just make it offici by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

    I think a set of Olympics for enhanced athletes would be really interesting to watch (30-foot long jumpers, 8 second 100m runners, etc.), but I would never endorse such a venture because then many athletes would be tempted to throw their lives away and live as drug-testing animals with very little chance to survive.

    I'd rather someone with that much determination take a more traditional path to success rather than sacrifice their life for entertainment.

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  64. Removing physical requirements from jobs by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 1, Interesting

    IF this article is correct, this will have an interesting effect on jobs which require physical as well as mental characteristics. Everyone will be able to have 20/20 vision, the muscle and endurance to perform the most gruelling types of manual labour or pass the entry requirements for elite military forces, the physique necessary for certain types of "acting"* etc

    *On this note, does anyone know how I could reserve the name Robocock?

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    1. Re:Removing physical requirements from jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't. By posting it in a public place like Slashdot like you just did, you renounce all copyrights. If you wrote a short story about Robocock instead, and registered it as copyrighted work, you'd own the story -and- the characters, together with their names.

    2. Re:Removing physical requirements from jobs by deimtee · · Score: 1

      You can't. By posting it in a public place like Slashdot like you just did, you renounce all copyrights. If you wrote a short story about Robocock instead, and registered it as copyrighted work, you'd own the story -and- the characters, together with their names.

      Yes, but you'd only own it for your lifetime + 495 years before it became public domain.

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  65. Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Bed buddies?? by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Is there a connection?

    I think most of you are aware of the controversy surrounding regular Slashdot article submitter Roland Piquepaille. For those of you who don't know, please allow me to bring forth all the facts. Roland Piquepaille has an online journal (I refuse to use the word "blog") located at www.primidi.com [primidi.com] . It is titled "Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends". It consists almost entirely of content, both text and pictures, taken from reputable news websites and online technical journals. He does give credit to the other websites, but it wasn't always so. Only after many complaints were raised by the Slashdot readership did he start giving credit where credit was due. However, this is not what the controversy is about.

    Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends serves online advertisements through a service called Blogads, located at www.blogads.com [blogads.com]. Blogads is not your traditional online advertiser; rather than base payments on click-throughs, Blogads pays a flat fee based on the level of traffic your online journal generates. This way Blogads can guarantee that an advertisement on a particular online journal will reach a particular number of users. So advertisements on high traffic online journals are appropriately more expensive to buy, but the advertisement is guaranteed to be seen by a large amount of people. This, in turn, encourages people like Roland Piquepaille to try their best to increase traffic to their journals in order to increase the going rates for advertisements on their web pages. But advertisers do have some flexibility. Blogads serves two classes of advertisements. The premium ad space that is seen at the top of the web page by all viewers is reserved for "Special Advertisers"; it holds only one advertisement. The secondary ad space is located near the bottom half of the page, so that the user must scroll down the window to see it. This space can contain up to four advertisements and is reserved for regular advertisers, or just "Advertisers". Visit Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends (www.primidi.com [primidi.com]) to see it for yourself.

    Before we talk about money, let's talk about the service that Roland Piquepaille provides in his journal. He goes out and looks for interesting articles about new and emerging technologies. He provides a very brief overview of the articles, then copies a few choice paragraphs and the occasional picture from each article and puts them up on his web page. Finally, he adds a minimal amount of original content between the copied-and-pasted text in an effort to make the journal entry coherent and appear to add value to the original articles. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Now let's talk about money.

    Visit http://www.blogads.com/order_html?adstrip_category =tech&politics= [blogads.com] to check the following facts for yourself. As of today, December XX 2004, the going rate for the premium advertisement space on Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends is $375 for one month. One of the four standard advertisements costs $150 for one month. So, the maximum advertising space brings in $375 x 1 + $150 x 4 = $975 for one month. Obviously not all $975 will go directly to Roland Piquepaille, as Blogads gets a portion of that as a service fee, but he will receive the majority of it. According to the FAQ [blogads.com], Blogads takes 20%. So Roland Piquepaille gets 80% of $975, a maximum of $780 each month. www.primidi.com is hosted by clara.net (look it up at http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index [networksolutions.com]) . Browsing clara.net's hosting solutions, the most expensive ho

    1. Re:Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Bed buddies?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very nice research! Maybe you should start an online journal where you investigate topics and put up summaries and links on your site. You could, perhaps, select one or two relevant paragraphs from the article, then add a few lines of your own to tie it together. You might even figure out some way to make money from this!

    2. Re:Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Bed buddies?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have to post the same fucking article each time one of Ronnie's submissions gets accepted?

    3. Re:Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Bed buddies?? by daniil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, for fuck's sake. Did you really have to do this? Did you even bother to check the link in the article blurb, or did you just see Roland's name and fired away? I think you didn't even rtfa, because had you read it, you'd have noticed that this time, he actually linked to the original fucking article, not his own blog. You just ended up being the silly little boy that cried wolf. Tee-hee.

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    4. Re:Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Bed buddies?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does "Ronnie" have to post the same fuckin article all the time?

    5. Re:Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Bed buddies?? by XeroDegrees · · Score: 1

      according to the hall of fame, he's the second most active submitter
      (makes you wonder what #1's racket is)

  66. In the future... by Eric+Damron · · Score: 1

    If people don't want bionic will resistance be futile?

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  67. 2010.. No more V1agr4 by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 1

    Wow.. I can wait to buy one of those bioengineered p3n1s from that spamming eMerchant and install it myself!

    1. Re:2010.. No more V1agr4 by BWJones · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your subject line might be more appropriate than you think. I am actually concerned about the use of Viagra, because it is a phosphodiesterase inhibitor.......If you read about how photoreceptors work, phosphodiesterase does have a role in the transduction of vision and there is overlap with the activity of Viagra with the phosphodiesterase subtypes found in photoreceptors. Are we setting a bunch of folks up for vision deficits down the road a few years?

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    2. Re:2010.. No more V1agr4 by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 1

      i was going to reply with "really... who needs to see, so long as they can keep it up" but then i thought about the danger of setting loose upon society a bunch of blind erections... i mean, it's bad enough when they CAN see, imagine when they're visually indiscriminate.

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    3. Re:2010.. No more V1agr4 by radar_uk · · Score: 1

      Mother always said I'd go blind doing this...who knew??

    4. Re:2010.. No more V1agr4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually viagra's development started out primairily as that, the "side effect" was not exactly planned.

  68. Where's my flying car? by Clueless+Moron · · Score: 3, Funny
    I want my goddamned flying car. It's been promised for fifty years now. Stuff your nanotech, bases on Mars, and robotic maids:

    WHERE'S MY GODDAMNED FLYING CAR???

    1. Re:Where's my flying car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the technology known as Flying Cars...Yes they shall come to pass in due time, but the reason they have not up till now, is that human technological capabilities are still too primitive to allow it. What is demanded is a virtually silent VTOL (Vertical Take off and landing) vehicle that has easy to work controls or even software guided autopilot that will take passengers to an from their destinations. Such capabilities are not within our grasp as of yet given the aforementioned technological primitiveness of our civilization upon this planet.

      What will be required is a new method of aeronautical propulsion that does not rely on ambient conditions around the car aka propellantless propulsion, and I think people have already seen the peeks of the technology, as it has been featured in at least one science magazine relatively recently. So as far as true flying cars are concerned they will come about as soon as propulsion via air displacement ends and propellantless propulsion comes to fore and computer technology can allow virtually automated flight, and that may take anywhere from 15-30 years. But once this happens human transportation will never be the same, because the same technology that will be used for terrestrial propulsion can be easily adapted for space travel.

    2. Re:Where's my flying car? by dosius · · Score: 1

      I would make do with a robotic maid, myself... can't seem to keep my place tidy by myself.

      Moll.

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    3. Re:Where's my flying car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, right, tidying up. Sorry, I would have expected a bit more personal service.

    4. Re:Where's my flying car? by dosius · · Score: 1

      Nah, can't get that from a robot. XD

      Moll.

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  69. Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear. by tygerstripes · · Score: 1

    It can't have escaped the more recreational of slash-dotters that our good /.spamming friend has recently gotten his hands on an old copy of Deus Ex and put all the enhancements, in order, into an article... can it?

    Is there ANY way to stop this Pigpen, or whoever, from having his submissions taken seriously?

    No, I thought not.

    On the plus-side though, I can't wait to be able to launch a little 3rd-eye armed flyng drone from my own head. Or light-up eyes! That'd be greeeat.

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  70. Zoom Vision for faster reactions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Geeks need dexterity for faster reactions, not zoom vision!

    Leave it to a maladroit geek to invent something he know's nothing about!

  71. Stem Cells (sopmewhat OT, but important) by bungalow · · Score: 1

    You won't get this information from the mainstream media. According to too many $tvnews, $majornewswebsite, and $radionews broadcasters, the Catholic Church thinks that ALL stem cell research is bad (evil / will send one to hell).

    In fact, the Catholic Church teaches that fetal stem cell research is contemptable because those cells are derived from aborted babies.

    The use of adult stem cells are OK, as adult organ transplants are OK, and adult stem cells are already in use in a number of cases.
    Fetal stem cells are not.
    http://www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/bioethic/Clini calAdultStemCells5404.pdf
    http://stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm

    Quote from article linked below:

    "Had a major heart attack? In the not-too-distant future, doctors may be able to use stem cells to regenerate damaged heart muscle. And here's the exciting part: They can do it using stem cells that aren't extracted from human embryos."

    http://www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/bioethic/fact4 01.htm

  72. Where is the obligatory.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    penis and breast enhancement comment?

  73. Legal/Medical ethics by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    Im guessing that medical ethics will come into play and that allot of implants will be a no-no unless they are to repair damage. Having said that, plastic surgery is pretty common place now most people know someone whos had a nose or boob job but mostly thats done to make someone look more 'normal' - a nose shaped like a bullet or size 50 breasts just look stupid so its slightly different than gettin extra vision. Also allot of enhancements will be genetic and that already has a pretty strict medical ethic.

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  74. Actual applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got something else you can zoom... ah, I mean telescope. Definately telescope.

  75. Is an Exoskeleton the Best Choice? by Al+Mutasim · · Score: 1

    For many applications (such as the military) it seems an exoskeleton would be better turned into a robot proxy that sends sensory data to the person controlling it and receives control feedback. The person could be anywhere, over the next hill or a on another continent. This would give the benefits of an exoskeleton but allow the person controlling it to be away from danger (including that from the exoskeleton itself).

    1. Re:Is an Exoskeleton the Best Choice? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      This would never be allowed - how can you have engaging plot lines involving the death of squad mates and dangerous missions behind enemy lines if theres no danger? I can see about one film and that would involve both sides running out of robots and then a final desparate battle between the actual people who had forgotten how to fight.

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  76. Non-enhanced may win over enhanced by GuyMannDude · · Score: 1

    ...and who's going to watch the non-boosted events? Will companies choose to sponsor the athletes setting records, or those who "just" take first place? Who will the networks cover?

    In recent years women's tennis has become as popular as men's tennis. Now part of that has been due to the "glamourization" of the female athletes, I admit. But part of the increased attention is due to people losing interest in the men's game. The men have gotten to the point where the serve is a very major component of the game. An increasing number of fans are getting sick of watching some guy bang a 130 mph ball past someone over and over. The number of hanging-on-the-edge-of-your-seat rallies in the men's game has dropped considerably over the years. Fans are turning to the women's game because there are more interesting rallies going on over there. I submit to you that this is evidence that people won't necessarily flock to enhanced sports. Those enhancements may make the game very boring to watch and the non-enhanced games may be more enjoyable.

    And let's not forgot the possibility that public opinion of enhancement might sour considerably in the future. The death of one or more beloved athletes who died prematurely because of enhancement might turn the tide of public opinion from tolerance to anger. And in the father future, people who resent their enhanced co-workers who snap up all the promotions at work due to their superior abilities certainly aren't going to want to spend their meager paychecks watching more "enhanced freaks" on the weekend. We may yet see a serious backlash against enhanced people -- athletes and other.

    GMD

  77. BORG by threeofnine · · Score: 0
    So how long before we hear.....

    We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

    Three of Nine

  78. my enhanced eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm 52 and have cataracts (too much canoeing with cheap sunglasses on?). Anyone, one eye got bad enough to fix, so I got a Crystalens. It's not too bionic, but it's hinged and in addition to the expected 20/20 far vision, I should be able to train it to focus up close. It's already done wonders for my middle distance computer vision.

    Instead of tatoos and other body mutilation, I'm pretty pleased with this sort of limited body enhancement.

  79. Uebermensch by Audacious · · Score: 1

    Uebermensch's are the way of the future. Even without the advent of engineering feats we might be able to, one day, use the full potential of our brains thus truly giving rise to mind over matter.

    On vision: In 1975 I asked my eye doctor why they didn't perform surgury on the eye to correct the lenses. I was told it was impossible to operate on the eye because of how delicate the human eye was. Well.... My thoughts on engineering a better eye are that, in some cases, the lens is removed and replaced by a new lens. If, instead of just replacing it with a tiny piece of clear plastic (or a new organic lens donated by someone else) why not replace it with a transparent autofocusing lens using the now emerging transparent transistors. The device would use a low level laser to detect if it were in focus (ie: auto correcting) and something like squinting could cause the zoom capabilities to be used. (Squinting causes the eye muscles to increase the tension across the eye's membrane.) Or maybe a person could be taught to turn on the zoom capabilities in some way (like rolling their eyes up and then back down).

    Hearing is already augmented in several ways and our vision is helped at night with Night Vision googles, infrared, ultraviolet googles. These capabilities can be integrated into the lenses placed into eyes as well.

    However, it is more likely, IMHO, that genetics will play a greater role in what happens in the future. This is because engineering something into the human body is a lot harder (in the long run) than simply changing what something is like. Let me give an example. Which was it easier to do: Create larger more sturdy bulls via some engineering feat or through selective breeding and the chemicals which causes the bulls to grow larger than before? Although engineering did play a role in how we have managed to enlarge cows and bulls (and many other species); the work of genetics and chemistry have done more. Therefore, although it is nice to think about this - it is more likely that chemists and geneticists are going to be the ones who affect us the most in the future than engineers.

    Notes: The average milk cow is now so enhanced that they produce, on average, 40,000 gallons of milk per year. At a recent livestock show there were bulls which stood ten feet tall on all fours (ie:not reared up). Absolutely HUGE!!!!!

    Also: The average person has built in regulators on the usage of their muscles. (In order to not break everything you pick up.) As has been shown, through the use of certain drugs (like Crack Cocaine) these "regulators" are removed. This is why some people (but not all) can be shot and still walk around as if nothing has happened to them. These same people usually require three to four other people to just hold them still. Obviously there are still things we have as of yet to tap in the way of musculature.

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  80. Congratulations Roland -- 116 Articles by toxic666 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yes, 116 Roland articles on /. this year. That's almost one every three days.

    Seeing as the links are Roland's advertisement-laden page, is it any wonder people suspect a kickback to /.?

    http://slashdot.org/search.pl?tid=&query=roland+pi que&author=&sort=1&op=stories

    It was inevitable he would get one posted on 31 December. As predictable as death and Texas.

    1. Re:Congratulations Roland -- 116 Articles by Refrozen · · Score: 1

      Well, compared to my 'lots' submitted, and all rejected.. I'd say that's a pretty high number. EVERYONE VIEW MY JOURNAL NOW! And, republish it in yours!

    2. Re:Congratulations Roland -- 116 Articles by daniil · · Score: 1

      Your story submissions were rejected because they were a load of trite, much like the comments you post. So quit whining.

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  81. This is great and all but - by skazatmebaby · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'm looking for the technology NOW - not in 30 years that will allow us to live in a mode of sustainability, not of wizbang thingies that make us "enhanced".

    Isn't it ironic that we have all this technology that allows us to do more, quicker - and have more free time to loaf about, but we're destroying the world, exploiting resources and people and a whole slew of other things in the process? Seems we can loaf about just as much by living simpler. I don't need implanted anything. I need a tree. Maybe a book. More likely, a loved one.

    Not to sound cynical, but there seems to be a lot of smart people in the world - why are they all playing Halo 2?

    Cheers,

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    1. Re:This is great and all but - by skazatmebaby · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but this isn't Flamebait - this is important - someone - anyone please read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn or A Language Older Than Words by Derrick Jensen. You may not think it's important, but that's because you're ignoring a lot of things - I repeat:

      I'm looking for the technology NOW - not in 30 years that will allow us to live in a mode of sustainability, not of wizbang thingies that make us "enhanced".

      Isn't it ironic that we have all this technology that allows us to do more, quicker - and have more free time to loaf about, but we're destroying the world, exploiting resources and people and a whole slew of other things in the process? Seems we can loaf about just as much by living simpler. I don't need implanted anything. I need a tree. Maybe a book. More likely, a loved one.

      Not to sound cynical, but there seems to be a lot of smart people in the world - why are they all playing Halo 2?

      Cheers,

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      Dada Mail - Program, Art Project or Absurdity?

  82. No More Evolution for Humans by shirai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One idea that I rarely, if ever, see addressed is that we may very well have seen the end of natural human evolution. Before you reject this idea, think about it for a moment.

    I'm sure we all know how evolution works, by killing off the least efficient *versions* of our species and allowing the most efficient to breed.

    Well, in first world countries anyways, EVERYBODY can breed, and live and breed again. In fact, one might argue that some of the most intelligent of our species either (a) have difficulty breeding (ahem) and certainly in many cases (b) breed later in the game. And (b) is just as significant for if one group breeds 50% more than another group, the former group becomes dominant.

    Now, I'm not saying smart people necessarily breed less and that unsuccessfully people breed more and earlier but there has always been a cultural tie between career oriented people marrying later in the game.

    And certainly, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of natural selection. Until the next epidemic comes out and wipes out the non-immune half of the population, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of natural selection going on anymore. I wonder how this will affect our species a thousand, ten thousand or hundred thousand years from now.

    Perhaps these human augmentations are the new form of evolution for humans.

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    Be my Friend

    1. Re:No More Evolution for Humans by zmollusc · · Score: 1

      I doubt that we have seen the end of evolution.
      Firstly: The 'successful' people will meddle with their kids dna for desirable features, this will increase the chances of evolution as it introduces 'mutations' of the genes that would otherwise take a long time to happen by accident.
      Secondly: You assume that having more kids will mean that your genes will take over from the less reproductive people. This is only true when the two variants are competing for resources. If there ever comes a time when the rich/smart are heading for a real fight for resources for their kids, don't bet on the poor.

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    2. Re:No More Evolution for Humans by Tlosk · · Score: 1

      There is only one way that evolution can end, and that is when a species goes extinct. You are confusing changes in selective pressure with evolution itself.

      In fact it isn't unreasonable to argue just the opposite. By greatly reducing the selective pressures so that the majority of people who would not have successfully reproduced before can now do so you increase the variability within the population which speeds the pace of evolution and widens the potential branches.

      If you were to narrow your argument greatly to the point that modern living makes it such that any single person randomly selected from the population would be less likely to survive in the world of our ancestors, you would be correct. But we don't, so it isn't really meaningful.

    3. Re:No More Evolution for Humans by Sneakabout · · Score: 0

      career oriented != better person That's all I have to say on that...

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      Sneakabout is a mysterious figure, having done too much mathematics.
    4. Re:No More Evolution for Humans by Justice8096 · · Score: 1

      The only difference is that speciation is not necessary for human evolution. We have divided ourselves into groups that an interbreed with viable offspring for a long time - most of our evolution happens within that context.
      Having more children is not necessarily "winning" - there must be less predators than prey. The only relationship between species that has a numeric parity is symbiotic. Most of our inter-group relationships are not symbiotic. If you don't contribute to the creation of resources, you depend on getting those resources from others. My present job is paid by the government - therefore I require a base of taxpayers that outnumber my "kind" that provide money so I may be paid. The only people who are not in that situation who are in the sciences are automation engineers, farmers, miners and doctors. The rest of us need to be outnumbered to maintain our standard-of-living. And since predators and parasites have a better standard-of-living, I think that that is where you want to be if you are intelligent (unless you are worried about the future, in which case you want to be a symbiote - like, say, a doctor).

  83. Don't be afraid by jerometremblay · · Score: 1

    Using Google-Mind to search and "experience" other people's memory will drastictly alter the very concept of "individual".

    I doubt stupid (and artificial) concepts such as "patentable intellectual property" will survive the process.

    Anyway, i'll be part of a drm-free open-sourced mind-network. I'm confident in our collective problem solving skills to address those issues in due time.

  84. They were promising this in the late 70s. by solios · · Score: 1

    As well as fucking moon bases and mars colonies.

    Wake me up when I can get jacks implanted at Radio Shack, or buy a digital "camera" that comes in pill form.

    Remember, the widget isn't here until all the ghetto-fabulous wastoids you run into in downtown have one.

  85. How it might happen.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Gentle Seduction" by Marc Stiegler
    Publisher: Baen (June 1, 1990)
    ISBN: 0671698877 ... read the title story. Definitely on the "must read list".

  86. Flying Cars... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1

    and copter belts. We'll still be waiting for those, too.

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    They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
  87. I'm an ass by Roland+Piquepaile · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hi, I'm an ass who keeps attempting to post advertisments for my crappy blog on the Slashdot homepage. I try to pass them off as advertisments. Thankfully, it works! I'm making craploads of money from ads while spamming the Slashdot community! Someone, please stop me!

  88. Sounds like a Jake 2.0 fan or something by mark-t · · Score: 1
    It just sounds too similar to be coincidental.

    While there are some instances of life imitating art, what often ends up actually happening is that reality surpasses anything the artist might have originally imagined.

    This looks to me to be little more than idle fantasy.

  89. Not a new idea. by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    Not only is it not a new idea but, rather, it's an established fact.

    In particular the part about "smart" people breeding less. If you define "smart" as "more educated" there's a direct correlation between a woman's education level and the number of children she will have.

  90. Its all fun and games until... by Odocoileus · · Score: 1

    Until somebody makes nanobots that look like good nanobots, but are actually programmed to cause a blockage in the hearts blood supply, and then dissipate enough to avoid detection after the person dies.

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  91. Split Natural and "Boosted" people. by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    I've thought about this before. We can't stop the dopers. What we can do is just throw up our hands, lay out rules for the "natural athletes" and have "unlimited" leagues.

    The rules: You're caught doping, you're kicked into the unlimited leagues.

    As you say, you'll have people who watch the "enhanced" events for the records, and you'll have people who watch the normal events for the more interesting, more "down to earth" plays.

    Also, many of the better players will stay in the natural leagues, because their talents and that they don't desire to wreck their bodies as much. Professional (american)football, for example, wrecks player's bodies pretty badly even without steroids and such. They have the training to the point that you don't really need steroids, and muscle is much easier to strengthen than bone, or even more importantly, the ligaments and tendons.

    Phhbt. Dream on- MLB is thrilled at the doping. They "hate" it publicly, but privately they squeal like little children when Joe Dope smashes the baseball out of the park. Home runs and high scores bring in the crowds. Singles and scoreless games don't.

    MLB actually has a number of options to "balance" the game. Just how far out the outfield goes, the height of the pitcher's mound(measured to the 1/8 of an inch). On the other hand, I can be a conspiricy theorist and say that the backers want a bit of scandal to revive interest.

    As for the advertisers, like has been said, I see the "enhancers" getting adverts from medical companies, while the sports equipment companies will split with both, but probably go heavy on the natural.

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  92. Re:It's not a bug, it's God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Withe the complexity of life, it just shows all the more that there is a master designer and creator.

  93. Biodynamics by BBrown · · Score: 1

    I studied with Prof. Jim Collins at the BU Center for Biodynamics.

    One of his most recent studies is into the study of introducing 'noise' to the feet of those with balance issues. He uses a random vibrating insoles to generate noise in the shoe, which (as his studies proved) is successful in helping the elderly maintain balance and control.

    A very interesting and very current look into biodynamics and engineered enhancers.

  94. Future Pole Vault by Trillan · · Score: 1

    "Go Go Gadget Legs!"

  95. But at what point do you lose your humanity? by MiLK_MD · · Score: 1

    This particular issue always reminds me of the the definition of humanity, or rather, the effor to define what makes us human. If we could see, in IR, UV, Xray, etc. would we be more or less human? How would you describe such a scene with those eyes to a person without such visual abilities? Say one person has enhanced vision, enhanced audition, strength, cognitive abilities... would this person even be able to relate to the unenhanced human? Could this person even be called human? At what point does self-engineering so remove us from where we started that we become an entirely new life-form (think Vinge's Singularity posit with a twist.) And how does one define "vision loss"? Vision less than the norm? Does a 75 year old man with 20/100 vision have vision loss, even if he is within one standard deviation of the mean for people his age? How about the person with 20/20 as compared to the person with 20/10? I see that you are a vision scientist, but for those not familiar with visual acuity testing: 20/20 is only an AVERAGE. It is not as many people will say: "perfect vision." It is not uncommon for people to have better than 20/20. Which begs the question are these folk then judged to have "vision loss" as compared to there eagle eyed bretheren? As a person in the medical field I too am interested in technology that enhances a person's quality life and more importantly may reduce suffering. But while it may be easy to define medical need by looking at a child whom has a degenerative eye disease causing blindness, the questions becomes more difficult to answer when drawn to an extreme.

    1. Re:But at what point do you lose your humanity? by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We've had folks 3-4 times stronger than other folks for generations and nobody asked whether one or the other might not be human... okay so maybe they have, but they shouldn't have.

      The questions for whether someone is human include; can they interbreed with humans? Are they sentinent? Are they responsible to themselves and a threat to others. If so, they should be legally and biologically be considered humans. Driving a car doesn't make you less human. Having an artificial heart doesn't make you less human. Having a bionic adaptation shouldn't either.

      If you're going to exclude someone from the category of human you should have a functional moral, ethical, legal or biological reason for doing so, and your categorical exclusion would only be as broad as your reason was.

      My question (borrowed from the X-Men) is; when should enhanced abilities be considered weapons or threats, in the same class as firearms or knives? Do you not let certain people into an area because they're unusually strong or capable?

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    2. Re:But at what point do you lose your humanity? by loadquo · · Score: 1

      Along this line, I wondered about people who have cameras and recording equipment built into them in some way. Would they still be aloud in Cinemas or to work in Jobs that have a no Camera phone policy at the moment. My guess is that is that people will have to have a way to turn off or degrade their enhancements that can be verified externally. Of course people could work around that, but then people can always sneak guns and cameras in anyway.

    3. Re:But at what point do you lose your humanity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you not let certain people into an area because they're unusually strong or capable?

      That's a good question. I've been training Kung Fu in my mom's basement. I eagerly wait for the day they won't let me in school anymore, because I'm an excellent ninja!

    4. Re:But at what point do you lose your humanity? by jlebrech · · Score: 1

      cinemas wont exist by then.

    5. Re:But at what point do you lose your humanity? by burdalane · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why people care whether enhanced persons can be considered human. IMO, being humans is overrated. Humans are just intelligent animals who do weird animal things like plop out more humans. Enhanced beings will be better than humans, or at least that should be the ultimate goal of enhancement. I would love to be enhanced, and if I were, I would not want to be considered human.

  96. Nanoviruses by MrExact · · Score: 1

    Boy, I can't wait until the CIA and other foreign agencies decide to use the technology to create super-viruses that are immune to anything but other nanobots.

  97. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't like what he submits THEN DON'T READ IT, ASSWIPE. No one is forcing you to!

    Dipshit jealous turdpie. . .

  98. LOL @ YOU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Third time's a charm, I guess. I am the original author of this investigation. It got modded +5 when I first posted it. Someone else posted it again and it got +5. This is the third time that it's been posted (that I am aware of), and it got modded -1. LOL! What's even more funny is that somebody else linked to the second post and got modded +5! Double whammy! LOL @ YOU! But thanks for trying to stand up against "the man". I don't think anything will happen, though. The editors obviously don't give a shit what we think. At this point in time I'd settle for a filter for Roland's "articles".

    1. Re:LOL @ YOU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To his credit, this time, Roland actually linked to the original article, not his silly blog...

  99. look at 30 year old predictions! by tie_guy_matt · · Score: 1

    By 2004 we will all have nuclear cars, and electricity will be too cheap to meter. Computers? They will always be big and expensive. Yes I am sure they will be faster and better but they will still mostly be used by banks.

    In 30 years things many things that we think will happen probably won't and something will probably come out of no where that will change our lives in ways we can't imagine. No one can really predict the future. The only thing I will predict is that people will still be people and we will still have death and taxes (well taxes at least.)

  100. Blernsball by infonography · · Score: 1

    Can't wait till I can catch a game on ESPN.

    Blernsball The Earthican past time featuring mandatory steroids.

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  101. Yes but... by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

    ...Will we have flying cars?

  102. Just get up off your lazy ass (not a troll). by RobL3 · · Score: 1

    I know that sounds harsh, but so many of us just sit around and let our bodies slowly degenerate. Then we look to science to make us super-human again. I've got news for you, it's amazing what the stock, off-the-shelf human is capable of. Three years ago I decided to "hack" myself - good foods, ton's of best-practices power and HR based training (running, swimming and cycling). The result? I lost 60 lbs, and last year I rode my bike 328 miles in 24 hours and ran a 40 mile ultra-marathon on dirt trails. Most of my coworkers think I'm some uber-athlete, but the truth is I just got off my ass and put my body to the use it was intended.

  103. Re:It's not a God, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, you keep telling yourself that.

  104. Hope by knightrdr · · Score: 1
    I have very mixed feelings about this. On one hand, as someone afflicted with a neuromuscular disease, I have hope that science will offer some therapy within my life time. Yet, I think there are major hurdles which must be overcome which may elude us for longer than we expect. Let's not forget the old school physicists who thought that there were only 2 or 3 major questions left in physics. At the time I'm sure they thought they were on the cutting edge, yet they couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm also concerned that with current limitations on stem cell research, there may be unjustified delays in scientific advancement. I think we are more likely to see a scenario like the one portrayed in Gattica where genetic knowledge allows parents to use scientific services to select more desirable children. Remember the old saying: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Look at the world we live in -- the corporations have become the new ruling elite. That leaves government officials as court partisans and the lowly masses (us) as serfs in a corporately controlled society.

    I think we also must take all these reports with a grain of salt for obvious reasons. I'm sure some people on slashdot are old enough to remember scientists claiming we'd have hover cars or even moon colonization by 2000. The fact is nobody can predict what the future holds with 100% certainty. We can make predictions based on trends, but true advancement often comes from serendipitous chains of events beyond our current ways of thinking.

  105. Better ... stronger ... faster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Faster isn't necessarily better...

  106. From a purely egocentric point of view. by tdhillman · · Score: 1

    My eyesight is fine. A little reading difficulty, but I can still hit a baseball.

    However, can we please apply all of this engineering to:

    Peripheral neorupathy. It's a bitch to see your toes and not feel them.

    Solve that and we've got a winner- there's less and less that I really want to see everyday.

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  107. hammer revolution --; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I PREDICT IN 2006 WE WILL ALL HAVE --; INSTEAD OF HANDS http://www.hammerrevolution.com/

  108. In AD 2101, war was beginning. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only 96 years to go!

  109. Re:It's not a bug, it's God by darthdavid · · Score: 0

    Jesus is cumming, Spit or swallow?

  110. Your New Codename is: by Digitus1337 · · Score: 1

    Oh man, J.C. Denton here I come.

  111. Thank you by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What you just saw was a typical example of the "romantic primitivism" meme. Blame any unexplained problem on the sin of thinking and its byproduct, technology. All that manmade stuff is icky and polluting and makes people squint and go blind, because it's not "natural".

    Slapping such idiocy down in the name of real science is doing the world a favour.

  112. Resistance if futile by future+assassin · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Man Star Trek had it right. Eventually the human race will be half flesh half robotics. That kind scares me. Are we gonna have a security focus forum where new exploits are posted. heh imagine the havoc being cause by deleting peoples bowel or sphincter control ability :P

    Latest ph33r sphincter exploit brought to you by the Fr33 Teh Humans Kru.

    http://www.micro-soft.ca/ Support Linux Clothing

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  113. Nanobots in our blood - another step towards cy... by gneer · · Score: 1

    ...towards cyborging? AFAIK technical improvement leads to a complementation of the thing supported.

    For example: Today cars are save as never before. But the death toll is still high. I.e. it didn't sink that much as it was expected. I assume that this isn't limited to systems where cognition plays a role.

    If so, then a immune system support by nanobots could lead to a weaker (biological) immune system. What to do then? ... Well, then let's improve the nano immune system a bit. ... And so on. I think, that could make Cyborgs out of everyone of us.

  114. The real problems by Sheepdot · · Score: 1

    The idea that nanobots will enhance our capabilities out of the box is flawed. Here's why:

    1) The security issues surrounding nanobots have not even started along the path to fruition. One of the problems that comes with creating nanobots is securing them. As past history has shown, flaws that allow compromises in new technology are rampant as it is. Injecting nanobots is going to be risky for the sake of a "hostile takeover" of their control mechanisms.

    2) Flaws. It's yet to be determined if there will actually even be "enhancements" from cybernetic changes to the human body. Devices now that let the blind see also have negative side effects of which the depth of such cannot even be described. What is to happen if in throwing a baseball the stress involved will cause a player to hurl the object at 150 mph instead of a more adequate 90 mph? What then, if there is a death because of a stress-related injury?

    3) Longevity. The current problem with creating devices that run on little or no power is that they still need an energy source. Supposing there were thousands of nanobites required to make an olympian do a one-foot higer long jump. Where is the power going to come from if not the individual? If they are power by battery and die out, then are they really aiding the player in any way?

    4) Along the lines of the above, it is obvious that steroids give players a "nanotech-like" advantage. Yet, steroids are illegal. Why then, would nanotechnology be fair use in any game? Who is to say that world governments will not ban their use from their inception do to safety concerns?

  115. ocular haiku by swyterw · · Score: 0

    i won't be happy
    until i get a pair
    of robot-laser eyes.


    -w

  116. Sports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was kind of hoping that 30 years from now professional spectator sports would be dead.

  117. Re:It's not a bug, it's God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If you really believe that, I suggest you read The Second Law of Thermodynamics, Evolution, and Probability. Here are some excerpts:
    ...Failure to understand that in thermodynamics probabilities are not fixed entities has led to a misinterpretation that is responsible for the wide-spread and totally false belief that the second law of thermodynamics does not permit order to spontaneously arise from disorder. In fact, there are many examples in nature where order does arise spontaneously from disorder...
    ...In the following sections we will try to explain the true relation between entropy and probability and show why this relationship does not preclude the possibility of order spontaneously arising from disorder...

    If you wish to believe in a creator, that's fine, but please do not mislead others into thinking that such beliefs are supported by science.

  118. The Enhanced would still cheat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An Enhanced cheater would rather compete against the Non-enhanced, since then he could grab all the golds. You'd still have all the problems we have today detecting cheaters. So there'd just be another category for people who *want* to compete as Enhanced, whether or not they really are Enhanced.

  119. Re:It's not a bug, it's God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Such beliefs are not refuted by science, either.

    Science cannot currently explain why even disorder would come about into existence. That's not to say we should go about speculating, but please do not mislead others into thinking that science can disprove creationism. Creationism isn't a scientific claim (in the strictest, positivist sense).

    At any rate, believing in a creator would not be fine if one did not exist. It should lead to all sorts of scientific errors.

  120. Predictions of the future, historically = LOL by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 1

    Thirty years from now, we'll use bionic eyes giving us 'zoom vision' for faster reactions.

    Yeah, for the wealthy, and even then, only *maybe*.

    I LOL in your general direction on that prediction generally, though, because most people haven't any directly-obvious use for "zoom vision." People in the military, yes; most civilians, no.

    Nanobots injected in our bloodstream will complement our immune system.

    More believable than the first, but again, still unlikely. It's possible for very basic medical problems, but otherwise, the AI and robotics engineering required for such nanobots would be beyond affordability for most people, even the rich. Hence, such technology is likely to be still in the trial phases at that point.

    Artificial muscles built with electroactive polymers will help us to be stronger and faster.

    Oh? And who exactly has a need for this technology?

    Sports players and those in physical-security sectors (i.e., police, military, and private security) -- that's it. Does Joe Coder in the cubicle need to be able to intercept a pass 0.2 sec. faster? No. Does Joe Steelworker need to shoot a 3-pointer 0.1 sec. faster? Hardly.

    You have a (predicted) solution in search of a need. History proves that unless the demand is directly-attributable to the supply, the demand meeting that supply is not as strong as the predictions had suggested. For example, few people predicted the rapid expansion of MP3 usage until Napster came along, but by that time, the genie was out of the bottle; any dumbass could see that MP3s were the way of the future in terms of music file formats. Prior to that, most people thought RealAudio or .WAVs were the way to go (OK, a few hardcore BBS dudes still thought .MODs and .S3Ms were going to make it) -- now we laugh in their general direction.

    Hence, today, people continue to be amazed at the ease and convenience of MP3s and the fruits of the services which sell MP3-quality audio for around $1 a song. Such "wonders" would almost certainly never have been predicted 10 years ago.

    So you think it's science fiction?

    Like flying cars, the shorter work-week enabled by ever-advancing computer technology, and so forth, largely-speaking, yes, I do.

    You'll see that some people are so convinced that this kind of human enhancements will happen that they predict than in a few decades, all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'"

    Just because techno-ideologues are convinced of something doesn't make them correct, any more than the ideologues of any political view make them right.

    History, in fact, proves futurists to be morons. They have nice ideas, but inevitably, the inconveniences of reality -- the laws of economics which demand that there be a need for a dreamed technology, the laws of politics which demand that a given technology not cause religious wackos to believe it the sign of the devil, and the laws of a particular technology itself, which limit the growth of that technology -- all prevent the dreams of techno-ideologues from becoming reality within the specified timeframes.

    My advice to the futurists of the world is to study economics and look for a strong demand for their dreams. Only then will they have a credible case for their arguments that people will adopt their dreams at X point in time. In any case, I encourage futurists to lag their dreams by at least 100% -- most techno-dreams tend to come later than predicted, often twice as long as predicted, if that.

    Duke Nukem Forever, for instance, was supposed to arrive in 1997 or 1998 by PC Gamer's watch, after Duke Nukem 3D was released in 1996; now it's 2005 and where is DNF? Still in development, to be released "when it's done."

    In short: welcome to real life, techno-dreamer.

  121. I don't think I want to see freak olympics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of humanoids trying to show how much plastic they can pack in their muscles... I'd rather see nano-technology kill cancer cells and repair brain damage in those who come up with crap like having Droid-olympics..... that's utter cheating!

  122. Rubbish by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 1
    As always, such wild futuristic predictions are nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of the readers/journalists", based on exaggerated claims by some fringe scientists (who regularly make such claims because they are a way to get funding).

    And now for my own prediction: I work in artificial intelligence, and I predict that with the right amount of funding, we will have developed real AI, that rivals and extends upon human AI, by 2035. This AI will be so wise and have so much knowlwedge, that it will provide a solution to all the world's problems within minutes. And it will be our obedient servant, too! The world will become a paradise! Now give me a couple of millions to starts with, please.

  123. I remember in the 1970's by mormop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The BBC program Tomorrows World came out with the classic line By the year 2000 computers will make the use of paper obsolete. This one is only really matched by the idea that in the 21st century, machines will be doing all the work and we'll have much more leisure time.

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    1. Re:I remember in the 1970's by Directrix1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Computers are starting to do all the work, with the exception being the available cheap labor (which in the US are: Mexicans [Local Labor], Indians [IT], Chinese [Manufacturing], and South Africans [Call Centers]). But unfortunately the only we that have much more leisure time are the business owners, as the rest of us are clamoring for a job, or pulling our hair out worrying that our position will be the next one deprecated for the next cheap outsourcers. In a way I'm glad the value of the American dollar is dropping. Makes us normal people more economically viable.

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    2. Re:I remember in the 1970's by che.kai-jei · · Score: 1

      in the uk in 1971-72 a docu-film was made by the GPO - the telecommunication monopoly of post - telegraph, telephone in britain at the time about 1990 and beyond. well there was a slight ten year lag but its probably the best thing i have seen. it was SPOT on.
      WLAN, broadband, commodity CPU power , software services etc . pages cell phones. smart workstations' e commerce - remote data -=[ie web being useful to ppl] by 1990-2000.
      cant actually remeber all of it
      ten yearws optimistic but fantastic.
      no universal panacea thing either --
      it was with knowing nods that technology might actually make your life harder -- less convenient or make you work harder not smarter.

      fantastic stuff!

  124. Learn what science fiction means... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    So you think it's science fiction? Not at all. You'll see that some people are so convinced that this kind of human enhancements will happen that they predict than in a few decades, all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.

    The second sentence says it's not science fiction, while final does. Make up your mind...

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  125. aliasing in your field of vision by martyn+s · · Score: 1

    I heard of this technique that sharpens your cornea so much that you have something like better than 20/1 vision. You vision can get so crisp that you may eventually see jaggies, because the resolution of your cornea will be better than the resolution of your actual retinal cells. Pretty cool, though I wouldn't want to see jaggies, so I'd opt for vision just below that level of clarity.

  126. Some people are convinced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you think it's religious fiction? Not at all. You'll see that some people are so convinced that this kind of massive destructions of the earth will happen that they predict than in a few decades, all heathens (and illogical people using bad grammar) 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced news replays.'

  127. It's not about athletic performance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Anyone who thinks that all athletes in the future will remain naturally endowed is living in a fantasy world."

    And you thought it was about athletic performance.

  128. Second opinion by 36-bitter · · Score: 1

    Take a look at, say, Popular Science from 1975 to see what this year was supposed to be like, before you bet too much on 30-year technology predictions.

    Some of it will happen, and some of it will still be 30 years away (or more!), by 2035. And there'll be some significant stuff that nobody predicted, or could have.

    "Where are the flying cars? Where are the floating cities?" -- Calvin

  129. How about "enhanced Slashdot editors"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...they predict than in a few decades, all sporting events 'will be split up to accommodate enhanced and unenhanced athletes.'"

    How about "enhanced Slashdot editors"?

    Nah. It'll never happen.

  130. Para olypmics = enhanced olympics by Stanneh · · Score: 0

    anyone watch the para olympics imparticular the guy with 1 prosthetic leg who could have won a grey hound race nevermind the 100 metre sprint or whatever it was frankly that leg he had was trully enhanced and that technology can only get better.

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  131. A sci-fi writer's view. by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    I've been following nanotrends for a while, and I'm sure some ppl will agree with me: While nanotech discoveries are going amazingly fast, the research is also awfully slow.... I've read some technologies "will be available from 5 to ten years". I tend to compare nanotech with the electronics in the 70's. But don't think it'll go as fast... the transistor triggered a huge advance, but all advances are based upon this element. Nanotech is too wide. What's holding nanotech is the manufacturing methods. It's not "ok we know how this works in theory but we need 5 years to build the infrastructure". No, instead it's like "ok how the heck can we make this work?". A single discovery required to speed up nano-researc usually takes about 6 months... and we need LOTS, LOTS of them to actually see something.

    Here are some of my observations regarding nanotech development:

    a) There needs to be a "factory stage" for nanotech production methods, and this is the part that is slow. We're still in the "test tube nanochemistry" stage.

    b) Nanobots are WAY, but WAY too far. Most of the nanotech being developed right now are passive constructs (nanotubes, etc). And people are still having problems on how to attach them together.

    Add to that the toxicity studies, the 2 to 5 years tests in rats, monkeys, etc... I give them 40 to 50 years when practical (still specialized, non-reprogrammable) nanobots are really out. (The logic will have to be hard-coded, there's no other way when you're dealing with nanoscale. Artificial nanobot-based "cells"? Hmmm now that's a possibility, but not short or mid-term. Maybe in 30 years there'll be a slashdot story on "the first artificial cell manufactured" or something. And it will say "the technology will take from 10 to 20 years to be produced in mass scale".

    c) Electroactive muscle enhancers? Hmmm I don't think so. I tend to favor the "Artificial limbs", tho. With the recent discovery of elastic metal compounds, I do see that in 10 to 20 years practical implementations of artificial muscles will become a reality. There goes practical prosthetics. But I bet they'll be suboptimal in comparison with human muscles. Or maybe more efficient, but not to the point of the "6 million dollar man".

    On the other hand, mech-styled armors (a-la "Bublegum crisis") may become a reality... but even in 30 years, i bet they'll still be experimental, and part of government projects.

    d) One thing I'm inclined to believe in are brain-machine interfaces. But I wouldn't count on "drawing images with the brain"... at least not until 70 years.

    e) What I do think is that there will be enormous advances in genomics. What I call the "cold chip era" will come, allowing people to mass manufacture 3D-layered cpu's (not 2D as we have right now), with near-superconductivity efficiency (if not optical). Maybe spintronics will be the base of all logic.

    This will enable great speed in the genomic research. Along with nanotech, we'll see machines which will clone organs and such.

    Oh yeah, don't forget the neural bypass surgeries, I'm sure they'll take about 48 hours for a complete recovery.

    f) Combining d) and e), maybe we'll see hyper-reality robots in military applications, controlled by remote control, with brain interfaces. The guy will see what's going in his environment (maybe with connections to the optical nerve, maybe with just 3d goggles or something) and he'll do the moving, etc. I'm also sure that there will be some sort of neural disease associated with VR... brain overload maybe?

    In conclusion, to see all the advances predicted in the article, I think it's much safer to speak of 50 years or more.

  132. Thirty years from now? by khrtt · · Score: 1

    Thirty years from now, we'll use bionic eyes giving us 'zoom vision' for faster reactions.

    For now, we just have to settle for penis-enhancement scams.

  133. Kaaaaaaaahn! by grumling · · Score: 1
    Have we learned nothing from the antient Star Trek Texts? The scientists will create superior humans who look like an aging heavy metal band. They will cause havoc and be banished to a deserted wasteland. Years later, they'll get access to a super weapon that uses unstable materials. Spock will die.

    Come on people, its all spelled out for you. Stop it before it is too late!

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  134. Question... by TimeTraveler1884 · · Score: 1

    Don't these nerds realize that they are making their bully's faster/stronger?

  135. Not an optometrist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is not an optometrist. He is a scientist. He has a PhD. He works in a lab. He has a web page. Look at it and find out who he is and what he does. Optometrists and vision scientists are different breeds.

  136. More critical than eyes, are Kidneys by garroo · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Many many people die from Renal failure every year, and many die from Dialysis related infection and disease.

    I whole-heartedly support this... as do many others who live from one kidney or have failing kidneys.

    Some day I suspect we'll have very cybernetic humans running about, with the main competition being between the "hardware based" people and the "bio-engineered" people, looking for better/faster ways to fix it.

    Check out the work being done in this area, here:

    http://www.med.umich.edu/intmed/humes/

    And a recent story about testing of it, here:

    http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.asp?d oc ID=522180

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  137. Ideas behind brain augmenations by jonny55555 · · Score: 1

    I am interested in the idea of augmenting the human brain with enhancements that would allow the subject to be able to possibly assemble memories and ideas better. It would amazing to use the human mind as a storage bank for memories and such in an organized database that was cataloged much better than our own memory does. We could cross reference certain ideas and memories and furthermore, probably export them to other people saying they stored the ideas or thoughts in the same manner in the beginning.

    I have ideas of hooking myself up to a computer wirelessly via BlueTooth or preferably a more secure method of wireless technology not so prone to security or signal interference. If it had to be hard wired or jacked in that would be fine as well. There has been recent research as far as creating an energy source from a slight temperature difference in the body. You would put a device that creates this energy source at that point and it would power the rest of the electronics in the human body just fine. You could easy integrate a cell phone, mp3 player, or a GPS into such a system and put a form of display into the eye as a visual feedback system. If the feedback system was actually implanted as a third eye if you will into the brain, that would be amazing as you could suddenly literally change the feed of the third and the depth of realism as well. You could close your eyes, focus on the fake third eye in your head (only see through the third eye or full 360 degree spherical vision input as it where) and be in a complete 3-D environment that you might be able to feel as well if you decide to program the touch response systems as well. Interactive gaming would be at its best. This would also allow for very interesting security issues such as someone trying to hack into your mind or steal a memory or try to plan a memory, depending on how integrated the main Biocomputer device was.

    The wireless transmittal of information in and out of the brain would allow for much fast integration with computers and management of code, ideas, information, as well as communication with other people. I have thought that such a system would inevitably allow you to chat or communicate with more than one person at a time. If the chatting were visual, as it would probably have to be, then you could communicate with probably 20 to 50 people at the same time. If the chatting where vocal, then it would be simply how many different audio streams you can differentiate at the same time. For some people, they are able to pick out a flute and a few other instruments in an orchestra as they are playing in unison. The trick would be of course for the human mind to pick out and understand interactive data in multiple streams at the same time. I have only tried to talk on two different phones with two different people at the same time once or twice, but managed to do it pretty well for a short period of time. It would be interesting to see what is capable as far as an in brain communication system to the amount of understood conversation that would be possible. You wouldn't have to just have conversation either. You could share images and possibly even feelings over such a system. Imaging learning how to fold a paper crane and then teaching everyone that accepted the learning around you how to do it in mere seconds. They would have the building blocks to, they could restructure the folding process and figure out how to fold their own result. If the learning that you sent someone was more than just the moves required, but included the idea behind the moves (such as not just the source, but the source with ALL of the commenting) and could rebuild those moves. Teaching would be revolutionized as just as someone that paints a picture can share the image, and someone's interpretation is up to how they view it, someone sharing how to develop a program with the source and reasoning in the logic in mere seconds with another programmer, could be completely rethought in minutes as he has all of the preprocess beforehand and

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  138. Imagine no more cars by jlebrech · · Score: 1

    Imagine if you could run to work at an average speed of 30mph, there would be no more need to use poluting petrol driven vehicles, cars would only be use for very long distances. everyone would be able to commute to work by running. it would also mean no more obesity, as energy would still be consummed from the body.

  139. could be a good idea to test such enhancements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cool, you'd just have to wait 10 years or so to see which "enhancements" kill you within such timeframe and which limit themselves to addicting you to their use for diminishing effects forever..

  140. This is a well-known side effect of Viagra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a well-known side effect of viagra to cause problems with color perception, usually described as a blue tinge. The effect is only temporary though.

  141. WON'T HAPPEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Won't happen,

    Pfizer will try to sale a drug.
    Microsoft will try to write the OS.
    EA will have the rights to the video games available.

    Sorry but I don't want no shit these people sale.
    You'll be seeing blue, having chest pains, and feel rather screwd out of your health insurance.

    Remember Sentinel Worlds? ITs an Old game.
    It had a section where you found, easter egg.
    Full of EA Rowdies carrying nurf cannon.

  142. TACO! TACO! TACO! by RLiegh · · Score: 1

    r0r!