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Top 25 Innovations of the Past 25 Years

HarvardAce writes "CNN has just released a list of 24 of the top 25 innovations of the past 25 years. Most of them are things we use every day in life, such as cell phones (#2), PCs (#3), and e-mail (#5). CNN won't release the #1 innovation until Sunday, January 18 at 8pm EST (Monday, Jan 19 @ 1AM GMT), so I wanted to see if Slashdot users could come up with what they think the #1 innovation is and comment on the rest of the list."

624 comments

  1. #1 will be... by waynegoode · · Score: 5, Insightful

    #1 will be The World Wide Web/The Internet.

    1. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it will be. You'd have to be a fool to not see it. They pratically had a neon sign saying "Intarweb is teh #1"...

    2. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I disagree. #1 is the Buzzword. I sense a paradigm shift in this new millenium though.

    3. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      buzzword is an old innovation.

      atom for 50's and so on...

    4. Re:#1 will be... by PoopJuggler · · Score: 5, Funny

      or the George Foreman Grilling Machine.
      Tough call...

    5. Re:#1 will be... by heller · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they say the Web or the Internet then they'ld be wrong. The internet was started 35 years ago by DARPA and the Web, while ostensibly "invented" in the early 90's was actually just an application of the the hyptertext idea which was invented in the 1950s. The verification of this data is left as an excercise to the reader.

    6. Re:#1 will be... by tommertron · · Score: 1

      One thing they didn't mention was microchips, from which most of this stuff, including the Internet, stems. I think it will be #1.

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    7. Re:#1 will be... by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Come on, the innovation was applying hypertext to documents located on 1 or more remote machines, thus creating the web.

    8. Re:#1 will be... by STrinity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One thing they didn't mention was microchips, from which most of this stuff, including the Internet, stems.

      Microchips were invented after 1980?

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    9. Re:#1 will be... by trainsnpep · · Score: 1

      If they say the Web or the Internet then they'ld [sic] be wrong. The internet was started 35 years ago by DARPA. . .

      Not necessarily. Yes, the internet was invented 35 years ago, but so were hearing aids. Modern hearing aids are on there so, a Modern internet could also be on the list.

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    10. Re:#1 will be... by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful
      No, #1 will be search engines. Without them, the net is a lot less useful.

      Sure, the net has a lot of stuff, but try finding it without google, yahoo, etc.

    11. Re:#1 will be... by WeaverBen · · Score: 1

      The browser.

      I see chips on the reply list, but they go back too far. The Internet, as said, is too old. But the browser is what it took to make it hum.

    12. Re:#1 will be... by TooMuchEspressoGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Internet pr0n. It's the reason that most people use #3 (PC's,) fiber optics (#4) were invented to deliver it faster, and e-mail (#5) makes it available to the masses. As for cell phones (#2), the best use for which is to call up women so you can eventually *see* them naked... how many /.ers know any women in the first place?

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    13. Re:#1 will be... by MXK · · Score: 1

      That was a bit before the past 25 years :)

    14. Re:#1 will be... by VideoJ · · Score: 1

      Funny, I see several things on that list that pre-date 1980. E-mail, personal computers (called microcomputers prior to the IBM Personal Computer), the space shuttle (first flight in 1981, but construction started in 1975), and voice mail were all around prior to 1980.

    15. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This may surprise you, but not everyone is looking for an irrelivant oneliner in some dumbasses blog. Search engine usefulness is crashing.

    16. Re:#1 will be... by dspeyer · · Score: 4, Informative

      The internet goes back to around 1970, but TCP/IP was invented in 1983. This gave us truely scalable routing and a seperate (therefore optional) transfer layer. The internet wouldn't be able to do all the useful things it does now if it still ran NCP.

    17. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the WWW, the internet was invented over 25 years ago

    18. Re:#1 will be... by IO+ERROR · · Score: 1
      You beat me to it. #1 will indeed be the Internet. Or perhaps the Internet Protocol.

      Also look for six paragraphs about how Al Gore invented it, a short discussion about how it was designed to survive nuclear war (but can't today), comments from Vint Cerf about his idea to design a new IP for interplanetary communications, and if we're really lucky, a brief mention of BBSs.

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    19. Re:#1 will be... by beh · · Score: 1

      I'd say it will be "The Internet" alone...

      At least, there is one thing in the article that - though it might be a red herring - in this case, I don't believe it:

      Have a look at the mobile phone picture in the article:

      "
      Calling
      INTERNET
      "

      Hmmmm..... A giveaway?

    20. Re:#1 will be... by mforbes · · Score: 1

      Oh come now, we all know Al Gore invented the internet!

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    21. Re:#1 will be... by bitingduck · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I got my first microcomputer in 1981 I think-- an apple II with 48K of RAM, and a cassette drive for storage. I had actually tried to win one in a Games Magazine contest about a year before that and gotten a bit obsessed.

      And I wouldn't put the shuttle on the top innovations of the last 25 years-- It looks more like a dead end, and will probably be replaced by expendables for the forseeable future.

    22. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the Web, while ostensibly "invented" in the early 90's was actually just an application of the the hyptertext idea which was invented in the 1950s.

      Geez... If you want to look at it that way, most everything is an application of an older idea. Actually, what made the web was the ease-of-use of graphical browsers and the lifting of commercialism on the internet. Originally, commercial activity on the internet was severely frowned upon, but nobody cared that much since it was hard to use anyway. Graphical web browsers, i.e. Mosaic, made the itnernet much easier to use and accessible to the general population. The corporations saw a huge opportunity in this, lobbied and got a removal of the commercialism ban, and here we are today.

    23. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      c'mon poop. it's going to be air. The man who invented air has gotta be the richest person alive. It's so good when it hits the lips.

    24. Re:#1 will be... by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      but not everyone is looking for an irrelivant oneliner in some dumbasses blog. Search engine usefulness is crashing.
      You might want to run your spelling through Google:

      http://www.google.com/search?q=irrelivant&sourceid =mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

      Google Search: irrelivant

      Did you mean: irrelevant

      Google - it's not JUST a search engine, it's also a spell-checker.

    25. Re:#1 will be... by Monty_Lovering · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, this reminds me of a great bit from a UK comedy called 'Coupling', a bit like Friends except you never feel like killing the main characters, it is far ruder, and actually really funny. In it one character managed to build a convincing argument that every single major technological innovation was to enable men to see more breasts. Fire; you can see breasts at night. Art; enabled people to draw breasts. Clothing; you don't appreciate seeing breasts the same if they are out there all the time. Domesticated beats of burden; you can travel longer distances to see breasts. Agriculture; no mote multi-day hunting trips away from breasts. Water transport; now water is no barrier to seeing breasts. Writing; allowed communication about breasts. The wheel; as per beast of burden. Printing; allowed mass production of the art. Photography; allowed you to see real breasts even if they weren't there. The telephone; enabled calling women to arrange seeing their breasts. Film; moving breasts! .. and so forth. And the Internet is the crowning achievement, as it means a man (or woman if so inclined) can see more breasts in an afternoon than a person could realistically ever have seen in their lifetime.

    26. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to say downloadable porn - but the Internet is close enough ;-)

    27. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now you can integrate the two with the George Foreman USB iGrill!

    28. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely hypertext on multiple machines had already been invented years before web. I can think of gopher for one, and I'm sure there are earlier examples.

    29. Re:#1 will be... by ElBorba · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spelling aside, the sixty or so people at my company probably hit Google collectively 1000 times a day, which is a lot, I guess, and I probably "Google" twenty times a day. However, we also do $100,000 in online transactions every day without the help of a search engine, and our retail locations do an equal part in purely monetary transactions at credit card terminals that use the internet.

      My point being that Google's utility doesn't compare to the functionality of the internet, the www, or even darpanet. When it comes to changing the world, my life is internet-centric, not search-centric.

      The number one innovation will be the internet.

      --
      "The Borba"
    30. Re:#1 will be... by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny
      Well, there's always the dot-com-inspired "Bullshit Bingo".

      Print up your card from here

      For those who don't get it:

      Bullshit Bingo!

      Do you keep falling asleep in meetings and seminars? What about those long and boring conference calls? Here is a way to change all of that!

      How to play:

      Before each meeting, visit http://www.perkigoth.com/home/kermit/stuff/bullshi tbingo/ and print one copy of this game card for each player, refreshing the page before each print, or have the players print their own game cards.

      Check off each block when you hear these words during a meeting, seminar, or phone call. When you get five blocks horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, stand up and shout BULLSHIT!!

      I'd include a sample card except I get

      Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
      Reason: Please use fewer 'junk' characters.

    31. Re:#1 will be... by ElBorba · · Score: 1

      Doo-
      If the "personal computer" can be on the list, then "the internet" surely can too. Plus, the suite of protocols, hardware, and utilities that made up darpanet were certainly the precursors that we now associate with the internet (in fact, several are unchanged) but conceptually they're a whole different realm. In the minds of people who make lists of things there is no connection between the two, and the winner will be the "Internet" of Al Gore and the "internets" of George W.

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    32. Re:#1 will be... by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Ask yourself thesse 3 questions:
      1. How many of the people who do business with you on-line found you by researching using search engines?
      2. How many research the products using a search engine before making a buying decisions?
      3. Would your company value being ranked #1 in a google search?
      The internet without a decent search engine is like a car without a motor - you're doomed to mostly staying in one place.
    33. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the world wide web - I think it will be boxer briefs.

    34. Re:#1 will be... by igny · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Ask any scientist what are the most important innovations in the history of humankind, he would say writing, printing press, and google.

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    35. Re:#1 will be... by ncmathsadist · · Score: 1

      Ever higher climbing salaries for "top managers" Do a little research and see how the "indispensible talent" of top management has managed to fatten its paychecks at a rate far faster than that of your typical professional

    36. Re:#1 will be... by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      The Web was cool and all, but lets be honest, the number one invention is Internet P0rn. Looking for cars, looking up nuclear warhead plans, encryption and downloading mp3s pales in comparison to Porn.

    37. Re:#1 will be... by rikkards · · Score: 1

      Nah Internet Porn.

      (didn't read the thread nor the link)

    38. Re:#1 will be... by ElBorba · · Score: 1

      Answer:

      1. We don't do business online, we do TRANSACTIONS online. We actually host our own web site locally at the office and the traffic to the site consumes less than 2% of our lowley T1.

      2. I don't know, it could indeed be a large proportion. But you or I don't need a search engine to get to our web site or anyone else's, just a browser. If I want to research my product I'd go to a consumer site. YES, search technology MAKES THIS EASIER, but it's not what makes it POSSIBLE, which leads to...

      3. Yes, we'd love to be ranked number one as a Google search because that would mean some fraction of those people were buying from us. This would be a sign of our prosperity, but would be the result of good marketing.

      I don't disagree with your car motor analogy, a good search engine and some savvy for using it can get you just about anywhere you want to go. What I'm saying is: The Internet is a more important invention than the search engine... Mosaic that.

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    39. Re:#1 will be... by DaoudaW · · Score: 3, Informative

      Stop it!!

      Al Gore never claimed to _invent_ the internet. He did claim some credit for _creating_ the internet.

      This article gives the real story.

      Essentially Gore provided political backing for the Internet which allowed it to become what we know today.

      Among the quotes in the article:
      According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by [Gore in his current role as Vice President] and in his earlier role as Senator."

      The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."

      Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"

    40. Re:#1 will be... by batemanm · · Score: 1

      This was the reason I didn't get into coupling it took old jokes and retold them.

    41. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 1

      >> by DARPA and the Web

      When DARPA started funding the projects that created ARPANET, they were actually called ARPA - Advanced Research Projects Agency. The "D" came later.

      For anyone interested, there's tonnes of info on DARPA, BBN and the beginnings of the internet in this book:

      Where Wizards Stay Up Late

      It's a fun non-techie history.

    42. Re:#1 will be... by drgath159 · · Score: 1

      Without the internet, we're left with google desktop, which can only be so much fun. #1 is the internet

    43. Re:#1 will be... by TobiasSodergren · · Score: 1

      Electricity then, without it both the web and the search engines would be hard to implement

    44. Re:#1 will be... by aiabx · · Score: 1

      The Hubble Space Telescope. It didn't change the way we use pornography or watch football, it changed the way we view the universe.

      I would accept arguments that the WMAP probe taught us more about cosmology, but I wouldn't expect CNN to know that.
      -aiabx

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    45. Re:#1 will be... by TobiasSodergren · · Score: 1

      And for you mumbling about electricity was invented before 1930, you're wrong. There wasn't life before the Internet! Or, I should probably read the at least before posting? Yeah, maybe..

    46. Re:#1 will be... by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      Microchips were around well back into the '70s, but VLSI (very large scale integration) didn't happen until the mid-80's. If you're old enough, you owned computers (Apple, Commodore, Atari and even the IBM PC) whose motherboards were crammed full of chips. Now look and there are a half dozen big chips, a bunch of capacitors and that's it. And its the same in every device you inspect from your computer to your alarm clock radio to your microwave oven and beyond. VLSI is as far beyond microchips as microchips were beyond the transistor. Its a critical albeit unseen part of modern life.

      CNN's panel embodies the usual (in)competence I expect from the mass media. They included MEMS which are barely out of the experimental stage but forgot about VLSI which has become completely ubiquitous. In all probability the current crop of retards has never even heard of VLSI because the engineers take it for granted and so don't mention it.

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    47. Re:#1 will be... by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen Coupling in a year or so but I believe that was probably Jeff's diatribe. Thanks for the recall. ;-)

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    48. Re:#1 will be... by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      I remember an old episode of The Young Ones (also invented in the 80s, at least that's when I saw the BBC sitcom on MTV), in which the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse were sitting around eating sandwiches, and one of them asked, "So, Death, what's new?" He replied, in a deep bass monotone, "Microchip technology."

      I was ROFL. ;-) The joke's a bit dated now; I suppose you could change it to be "Nanotechnology" but then it just kinda wears...

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    49. Re:#1 will be... by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      If you want to get technical, the internet as we know it was invented sometime in the early 1970s, which disqualifies it as it has to be in the last 25 years. Though if (as I suspect) the journalists here are morons, they'll think the internet was invented in 1993 (roughly when it went mainstream) and thus it will qualify for #1.

    50. Re:#1 will be... by Marvelicious · · Score: 1

      So then I guess you all have forgotten about Topsy-Tail (http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/topsy_tail.h tml?gid=) huh?

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    51. Re:#1 will be... by Q-Hack! · · Score: 1

      Gore's exact quote...

      GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be. But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

      It is easy to see how partisan politics would have a heyday with this...

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    52. Re:#1 will be... by Blind_Io_42 · · Score: 1

      I was recently introduced to this stuff called "paper." Aparently you can take electonic signals and turn them into a "hard copy" or you can use a gizmo called a "pen" (kind of like a stylus) to interface directly with the Paper. Paper requires no batteries, or recharging, but I have been unable to locate any form of paper tech support.

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    53. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ask yourself this one question:

      1. How well would your search engine work without the internet?

      The internet without a decent search engine is like a car without a motor - you're doomed to mostly staying in one place.

      A computer without a NIC/Modem is like a car without an engine. You can play in it and store stuff in it and even tow it around with a crossover cable.

      A search engine is more like a map than a motor. You can move around on the web without a search engine quite well (as those of us who were on the web in the early 90's can attest), it's just harder to find stuff. As your "city" gets bigger, a map becomes more and more useful. That said, if I had to pick between having a map and no car or a car and no map, I know what I would pick.

    54. Re:#1 will be... by isdnip · · Score: 2, Informative

      To be more precise, the ARPAnet first went live in 1969, using NCP, and TCP/IP was invented in the early 1970s. In 1983, NCP support was turned off, and TCP/IP became mandatory. But it had been bopping around the lab, and to some extent the net, for years before "flag day".

      And while it's probably true that NCP as it existed wasn't adequate, TCP/IP is rather kludgey too for today's use. It is there because of inertia and religious support for it (people worship it as if it were handed to Moses on Sinai). Technically speaking, it rather sucks. IPv6 is worse, however, which tells you how competent the now-commercially-motivated protocol community is.

    55. Re:#1 will be... by jamirocake · · Score: 1

      No, #1 will be the net. Without it, search engines are a lot less useful.

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    56. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have to agree. Although I did not see cable tv any where. But yes the internet is #1 good one.

    57. Re:#1 will be... by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1
      The internet goes back to around 1970, but TCP/IP was invented in 1983. This gave us truely scalable routing and a seperate (therefore optional) transfer layer. The internet wouldn't be able to do all the useful things it does now if it still ran NCP.

      So, let me get this straight. You think that CNN will actually know the difference between a protocol and the network that utilizes it?

      Bwhahahahahahahahaha!

    58. Re:#1 will be... by MutantHamster · · Score: 1

      When the fuck was electricity "invented"?

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    59. Re:#1 will be... by orangesquid · · Score: 1

      Speaking of *crashing*, what about safety items?

      I would think something that saves a lot of lives might be the #1, but, I can't think of anything off of the top of my head...

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    60. Re:#1 will be... by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

      The Compact Disk or the CD Player.

      wbs.

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    61. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps #1 will be the Silicone Breast Implant.

      Mucho importanto.

    62. Re:#1 will be... by BitchKapoor · · Score: 1
      And while it's probably true that NCP as it existed wasn't adequate, TCP/IP is rather kludgey too for today's use. It is there because of inertia and religious support for it (people worship it as if it were handed to Moses on Sinai). Technically speaking, it rather sucks. IPv6 is worse, however, which tells you how competent the now-commercially-motivated protocol community is.

      I'm not saying you're wrong, but could you back up your claims as to what's wrong with these protocols, for the benefit of the less-informed?

    63. Re:#1 will be... by Headcase88 · · Score: 1

      CNN wouldn't make the #1 choice TCP/IP because the mainstream audience doesn't appreciate 'geeky' stuff like this. They'll make it something that Joe Sixpack can understand like "The Internet", or something else that most people understand.

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    64. Re:#1 will be... by flatface · · Score: 1
      Bullshit Bingo is actually not dot-com inspired. It's from the book "How to Take an Exam...And Remake the World" (Actually, it's about politics/sociology) by Bertell Ollman. The blocks include such phrases as "Compassionate Conservative", "It's Only Human Nature" and "Equality of Opportunity".

      The book also has testimonials from satisfied players.

      • What a gas. School will never be the same for me after my first win. --David D., Florida

        The atmosphere was tense in the last political science class as fourteen of us waited for th fifth box. --Catherine L., Atlanta

        The professor was stunned when eight of us screamed "BULLSHIT" for the third time in two hours. --Jack W., Boston

      On another note, I suggest everyone pick up a copy of this book.

    65. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The whole "Al Gore said he invented the internet" thing is a joke.

      You know that, right?

      It's always been a joke. People making fun of Gore. Humor. Know what that is?

      On the other hand, someone always insists upon posting a detailed, factual analysis of what Al Gore actually said.

      Which, inevitably, makes the joke even more funny.

      Give it up. Everyone knows he didn't really say that. But it's funny, like jokes about Bush's inability to speak basic English, and Clinton's inability to keep his private parts private. Some people like funny. If you're not one of them, "correcting" the jokes will just make everyone laugh at you, instead.

    66. Re:#1 will be... by benna · · Score: 2, Interesting

      With all the hype surrounding blogs this year, that has to be it. (Yes it would be stupid, but you just know they will do it anyway).

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    67. Re:#1 will be... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > or the George Foreman Grilling Machine. Tough call...

      You mean the USB iGrill?

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    68. Re:#1 will be... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      TCP/IP isn't that big a deal. I mean, it's good, but there are other good
      networking protocols. TCP/IP is just the one that caught on.

      I'd consider DNS more important than TCP/IP.

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    69. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everything repeats itself, eventually. And I'm sure that not all of the jokes are old ones retold. And as the GP said, you don't feel like killing the main characters as in Friends (it should be called Enemies!)

    70. Re:#1 will be... by farmhick · · Score: 1
      Hey, if Micheal Moore can say Bush knew about the attacks on September 11, 2001, before they happened, and all your friends believe it, we can say Gore claimed to invent the internet.

      On a more thoughtful bent, what exactly was it that Gore stated, and in what context? Who was his audience? Not a bunch of network designers, AOL engineers, Marc Andreesen, and Bill Gates. They would have known that Gore did not invent the Internet.

      The group he was speaking to was whoever watches CNN. Whether union members, the elderly, inner-city residents, fundamentalist Christians, enviromentalists, soccer-moms, etc. Gore phrased the statement in a very strategic way. While he didn't actually say he "invented the Internet", his reply would seems to say that to most viewers. See it for yourself.
      During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

      So the the great unwashed masses, he seems to be claiming to be the inventer of the greatest technological wonder in the world. And the sole reason everyone's nest eggs were worth so much money, from the dotcom rush. Not only is he the smartest man alive for being able to "create the Internet" but we all owed our livelihoods and pensions to his genius. (Afterall this was before the dotcom bubble burst during Clinton's last year as President.)

      That is the best take on the matter that I have seen. Actually, this is the only far-encompassing writing I have seen about it. Mostly it is just two people like yourself and the original poster throwing irrelevant factoids around. This isn't a flame on you, it just happens that your post is the exact type of reply to the original poster that everyone else has replied withon previous occassions.
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    71. Re:#1 will be... by Photonzo · · Score: 1

      I would have thought that CD's or DVD's would have been on the list?...they are in important medium and invention, but alas, the Internet will probably win as it is true, it has allowed men to see more breasts!...(grin)

    72. Re:#1 will be... by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Cell phones w/o cell towers and cellular networks are useless, too. So, by yur logic, cell phones shouldn't be on the list of innovations because they depend on other tech.

      The internet was inevitable, as anyone who fooled around with a bbs in the 80s will attest to. Search engines magnified the usefulness of the internet by orders of magnitude.

    73. Re:#1 will be... by tm1rules · · Score: 1

      What about ethernet?

    74. Re:#1 will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The internet was inevitable, as anyone who fooled around with a bbs in the 80s will attest to.

      Especially since the internet existed before the 80s. Maybe you mean the web?

      All you have to do for me to accept your point is explain the usefulness and popularity of google (or any search engine) without the web.

    75. Re:#1 will be... by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      I think King Solomon said "there's nothing new under the Sun." At least Coupling did it in clever ways. Friends was unspeakably dire, at least all thepisode I endured were. Then again, mr Anonymous Coward, maybe we are the dumb-arses missing the subtle humour of Friends;-)

      (I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the above quote. Some Bible chick told me in college when I was busy trying to convince her of my dubious charms in bed. I failed. She's still chaste now at 25, by all accounts. And still hot.)

    76. Re:#1 will be... by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Domesticated beats of burden;

      Yeah, there's nothing better than watching 10 foot tall vegetables pulling a cart...

      Oh, sorry, you said beats, not beets.
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    77. Re:#1 will be... by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      But he still knows a lot about all those emotional...uhh....things!

      Yet he has 8000 words for breasts...and counting.

    78. Re:#1 will be... by camcloud1 · · Score: 0

      To quote Homer Simpson - "The Internet? Is that thing still around?"

    79. Re:#1 will be... by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      All you have to do for me to accept your point is explain the usefulness and popularity of google (or any search engine) without the web.
      How about if we do it the other way around - for example, with cell phones. Explain their usefulness without compact batteries and cell towers.

      The internet is a lot less (in the sense of orders of magnitude) useful without a search engine. The search engines let you leverage the internet (not just the web - I'm including ftp sites, unsenet, etc - they're all indexed). Stuff that would get lost in the static or shear volume is findable with a properly-written query.

    80. Re:#1 will be... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > What about ethernet?

      Ethernet has pretty much completely taken over for LANs, but there are
      other LAN data-link layer protocols that could be used instead.

      Here's the way I see it: HTTP would work with very little modification
      over IPX/SPX over token ring, but it would not be nearly so useful as
      it is without DNS. Besides HTTP this is also true for FTP, SMTP, POP3,
      IMAP, NNTP, Jabber, or whatever.

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    81. Re:#1 will be... by Gridpoet · · Score: 1

      uh...hello? SLASHDOT! now instead of looking like and ass in front of a few of your friends...you can do it in front of the world!

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    82. Re:#1 will be... by DaoudaW · · Score: 1

      I like funny...

      When Bush mangles his words that's funny, when Clinton didn't have sex with that cigar^H^H^H^H^H woman that's funny, but when some people continue to pretend that the U.S. government didn't spend billions getting the internet to where it is today and that politicians didn't play a part in it, that's not funny. That's simply refusing to give credit where credit is due.

      You'd think this crowd of all people would be grateful to Gore for what at the time wasn't exactly politically expedient.

  2. #0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first post.

    1. Re:#0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The first post.

      Actually, wouldn't that be at -1?

  3. Ummmm.... by Geraden · · Score: 1

    The internet? (No, I didn't RTFA)

  4. Er... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Internet?

  5. books by cj171 · · Score: 1

    of course! Books! Who would've thought of that before the 70s?

    1. Re:books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are books?

    2. Re:books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What are books?

      Type-set computer printouts where all the pages are glued into some kind of backing material, soft or hard cover. People today still use them in the bathroom where they're afraid to take their laptop for spread of germs... I'm not. Typing this on the toilet right now.

  6. www? by Coneasfast · · Score: 1

    i have a strong feeling #1 is 'www', i guess it could be internet , but then email wouldn't be on the list

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    1. Re:www? by Chemical · · Score: 1

      Email and internet aren't attached at the hip. Exchange and Notes are email, and they need neither go over the Internet, nor do they use any kind of standard internet protocols (unless you count connecting to the server via TCP/IP, for which there are alternatives).

    2. Re:www? by ToreTS · · Score: 1

      Remember that for your typical person, WWW *is* the Internet. The media, schools, etc. all use "the Internet" when they mean "the WWW".

  7. #1 invention by ikea5 · · Score: 1

    Internet Porn

    1. Re:#1 invention by JawzX · · Score: 2, Funny

      *FREE* Internet Porn!

    2. Re:#1 invention by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 0, Redundant

      #1 innovation: Internet Porn

      #2-25 innovations: Only made possible through advancements in the field of the number one innovation

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  8. Retarded CNN by Directrix1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah Plasma TVs and HDTV is a real super innovation. Give me a break, this list is just a big ad.

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    1. Re:Retarded CNN by uujjj · · Score: 1

      Uh, CNN is itself a TV channel.

    2. Re:Retarded CNN by Directrix1 · · Score: 1

      Yep.

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  9. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Fleshlight makes women obsolete. Once we perfect cloning, there will be no need for them.

  10. Number one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, the web?

  11. WWW by anj · · Score: 1

    Agreed, it has to be the WWW.

  12. I know what #1 is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Electronic Voting!

  13. Digital music.... no damn. by djsmiley · · Score: 1

    Digital music has changed the way the world thinks about property.
    Digital music has caused riots in lofty Record companys....

    but i guess the net wins ;)

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    1. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Digital music has changed the way the world thinks about property.

      I suppose you mean that it has changed the way lots of people think about whether or not they can get away with stealing property?

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    2. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      copyright infringement is not theft. Stealing requires actual loss. Otherwise, you owe me for all the nice pink sweaters you didn't buy from me.

    3. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Posting anonymously on this topic suggests that you know you're not on the right side of this issue. I'm not talking about the letter of the law: I'm talking about whether or not the person who laboriously creates something, and makes a living doing so, can control the use of that creation. When you deprive the creator of that right, you've stolen something: his time, and his influence over his own destiny. If a person deliberately stop you in traffic, and you lose an hour of your life - has that person legally stolen something? No. Would that person be an theif and a vandal? Yes, or worse.

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    4. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      I don't think that Troll mod was appropriate. There's no question that the digitalization of content and the technological easing of piracy of that content has left a lot of people acting like parasites before they stop to really form a solid view of what they're doing. After a while, they're numb to it, and there's no thought at all about the content they're stealing as being anything other than some naturally occuring element in nature.

      You can't steal sunshine, right? Well, U2's latest is just sitting out there, just like sunshine, right? I can almost understand the intellectually stunted people who first form that view of things, and don't really think past it. It's the people who know that the U2 CD would cost them $14.99 and make the conscious decision to get their hands on Bono's work without paying for it. They're stealing/robbing/thieving/pirating, call it what you will: the only people who won't call it wrong ("gee, it's just infringment!") are the ones who know they're building a flimsy, slimy defense for their own guilty habits. I'm not trolling, here. People make the conscious decision to avoid paying for someone's work, and knowing that people get caught and in trouble for doing so, they're weighing their options and taking the gamble. This has a corrisive impact on an entire generation's notion of what intellectual work is, and who owns control over it: them that do the creating.

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    5. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Oops. See my reply to the parent item.

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    6. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by Lonath · · Score: 1
      Let me relate this to the "15 line p2p app" article from yesterday. You can build simple apps to copy and distribute things easily, because that's what computers do:

      Computers can send, receive, copy, modify, and display huge amounts of arbitrary data.

      That's all computers can do. Anything you can describe computers doing comes down to a manipulation or moving around of data. Let's take a look at the rights granted by copyright law. (Actually, I think it's more correct to say these are the rights a copyright holder can take away from other people since intellectual property is about creating government regulations that take away rights from other people...but I do agree we need some ip to motivate people to create stuff.)

      The rights as listed by bitlaw are:

      1. The right to reproduce the work. (copying)
      2. The right to prepare derivative works. (modifying)
      3. The right to distribute copies of the work. (distribution)
      4. The right to perform or display the work. (display) (These are listed as separate)


      So why does this matter? Why did I list these rights? Recall above my definition of a computer is a machine that can send, receive, copy, modify, and display huge amounts of arbitrary data. That means computers are copyright breakers. That means that of course it's easy to write p2p apps and download music...it's what computers are designed to do: break copyright.

      I don't think making computers into copyright breakers was intentional, but when the posts like yours go bleating on about how downloading is not teh st34l1ng, it makes it easier to justify it, and you're making a very good case for getting general purpose computers restricted or made illegal. You'll probably say that I'm nuts for thinking that this can happen, but the Eldred vs. Ashcroft case said that Congress can do just about anything it wants wrt copyright and other ip, so it might not be a bad idea to take this a bit more seriously and not give the big corporate interests even more reason to try to make computers illegal. Plz don't download illegally or try to make copyright infringement into a small thing, you're making it easier for them to justify taking away my computer.
    7. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a person deliberately stop you in traffic, and you lose an hour of your life - has that person legally stolen something? No. Would that person be an theif and a vandal? Yes, or worse.

      No... that person would not be a theif(SIC) or vandal. They would be obstructing traffic or at most be guilty of false imprisonment, depending on the circumstances.

      When someone kills another person do we call them a "thief and a vandal?" No. We call them a murderer.

      Simply copying someone else's protected work _IS_ however a violation of their legally defined intelectual property rights. However there are specific terms used to describe one who commits these crimes; plagarist and pirate come to mind.

      Don't get into an argument of semantics if you don't even know what the word means.

    8. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by smagruder · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm not anonymous and the parent is correct, you aren't.

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    9. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by Taladar · · Score: 1

      Could we please restrain the discussion of this issue to the several weekly roughly-matching articles as the arguments always seem to be the same on both sides anyway?

    10. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by MutantHamster · · Score: 1

      Dipshit, would you just shut the fuck up? Not everyone has the same opinion as you. To them they are not doing anything "wrong." Okay? What the fuck is wrong with you? How have you not yet killed yourself by trying to drink hot coffee while driving or something? Jesus Christ.

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    11. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Not everyone has the same opinion as you. To them they are not doing anything "wrong."

      Let's see: next stop is that there simply is no right or wrong of any kind, right? So, if you go to work all day, and I think it's not "doing anything wrong" to take your pay from you... well, then that's just a difference of opinion? How does that work? The guy with the most recent opinion wins? Please let me know, and I'll provide you with a place to send the money, since that's my most recent opinion of the worth of your labor. Or, do you not have a job or produce anything for a living, and that's why you don't get this?

      There IS such a thing as rationally derived property rights, and it doesn't matter - at all - what some music pirate thinks about his rights. It's the person that owns the material that can decide if he's selling it or giving it away. That's the only, only opinion that matters.

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    12. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      You're right, of course. It's hard to resist trying to straighten out people whose top-level comments on something like "innovations" decide to take that opportinunity to opine about the subject. Please also chime in higher up the tree, as you just did here, so that people looking to pick this fight are kept more on topic, too. Thanks.

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    13. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Please read the comments more carefully. We were NOT debating the fine (currently legal) of "infringment" vs. traditional theft. I'm talking about whether doing something contrary to what the creator of the intellectual property says you can do is wrong. Period. If you read the fine, or ask the artist, or ask the artist's designated agents if it's OK to avoid buying more copies of their product even as you make them, what do you think they'd all say? You already know, and that's why it's the wrong thing to do. The more that people just do it anyway, the more draconian the legal responses are going to be, even to the smallest infractions.

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    14. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by MutantHamster · · Score: 1

      Let's see: next stop is that there simply is no right or wrong of any kind, right?

      Yes, dumbass. Some societies believe it's okay to kill your wife for cheating on you. I realize you're extremely stupid, so it may come as a shock to you, but not everything that you think is wrong is wrong to everyone else.

      What the fuck difference does it make if someone takes my money? I may believe that it's wrong, but the person who did it may not.

      No, I give up. I'm just going to confuse you. Here's my new response: Get a vasectomy immediately.

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    15. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      What the fuck difference does it make if someone takes my money?

      If you can't have even a reasonable expectation of determining who can do what with your day's (or life's) work, then the result is (as they have always been) slavery, chaos, and collapsing societies. Where rule of law and democracy thrive, people thrive. People are willing to take risks and build enterprises, ventures, institutions, and infrastructure that have provided you with the ability to cheaply buy the computer you're typing on, the internet your're blissfully using, and the antibiotics without which people from even just our grandparents' generation wouldn't typically have lived past 40.

      If you can't see the inherent futility of moral relativism, then you should give up using the tools that reason, rationality, and rule of law have built. Without property rights, the industries that allow the 'net to exist wouldn't be here, and you'd have no place to spout your childish, hypocritical, self-contradictory notions, all so you don't feel so bad about not paying for music (presumably by artists you claim to like and respect, just not enough to respect their wishes to be paid for their effort).

      Everyone is free to hold their own moral code, find whatever they like to be right or wrong. I've got no problem with that. But when their actions rise to the level of making me their slave (by having to entertain them with my music at their whim and at no expense), or making me their victim (because, they think it's OK to kill me), then I have the natural right to defend myself. In the US, we have a constitution that says that our country will help me defend the rights to my person, my work, and my property. Some guy living somewhere else (or even in the US) that doesn't like that can wail and moan all he wants about how unfair it is for me to claim ownership of my work, but when he actually decides to make himself feel better by depriving me of it without my consent, he's giving up his own claim to property and freedom. So that we don't live in a fuedal society of hitmen who properly kill off people like that, we've adopted a legal system and legislation that strives to take care of people who prefer stealing over working. Really, I don't give a damn what anyone thinks: only what they do, in as much as it effects me by force or coercion. You want it to be OK for anyone to have anything they want belonging to anyone else? Spend a week or two in places where that's how things work, and then come back and enjoy the protection of your rights and property in the US.

      I'm sorry that you're comfortable with societies that are OK killing unfaithful women. I know there are places that function that way, but I'm always amazed that there are people living amid the comfort of western civilization that find it OK. I'd be real curious how your tirade would change if everything you're typing here was CC'd to your mother, your grandmother, and every other female relative and acquaintance of yours - I'm betting at least some of them would look at you with the pity you deserve. Mostly, though, I hope you have the misfortune of experiencing the theft of something valuable to you, or the loss of someone close to you, and that if you get to see the purpetrator of that crime in court, that you'll remember to stand up and tell the judge that you're OK with it, because the bad guy may not feel bad about what he did, and thought it was OK, and so he can keep what he stole, or not apologize for killing your family member - it's OK, there's no right and wrong. If you can't see yourself defending the guy that rapes your sister, or can't see yourself telling someone with a gun to your head that it's OK, he's just doing what seems right, then you there's hope for you. Otherwise, you have a bad case of mixed premises, and maybe you'll grow out of it someday when you create something of value, or find someone or something that's actually important to you. In the meantime, I'll consider you as having waived any rights to your own personal property and work, since you consider those rights invalid and capricious. Hope someone takes you up on it.

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    16. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by MutantHamster · · Score: 1

      Sure.

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    17. Re:Digital music.... no damn. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Sure.

      What a thought-provoking response! It's nice to see that you're not a philosophical coward that relies on sophomorically profane flamebait to try to get a rise out of someone, mistaking their disgusted silence as deference that somehow props up your shortsighted view of the world. Claiming to believe that there is no objectively right and wrong that a person can do is the lazy guy's way to avoid the work of thinking it all the way through and dealing with the consequences (like realizing your favorite celebrity is an ass, or recognizing that you've been voting for the wrong person, or starting to pay for the music you enjoy).

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  14. Was the voting done by 13 year old boys? by johnthorensen · · Score: 1

    If so...the answer is simple: Internet Pr0n :-)

    -JT

  15. Who wants to bet #1 is CNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or instant news world....

  16. segway by bmwm3nut · · Score: 2, Funny

    it's gotta be the segway. afterall wasn't "it" supposed to revolutize our lives? :)

    1. Re:segway by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 3, Funny

      Indeed, whole *cities* are being designed around the thing!

    2. Re:segway by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      Cities, landfill sites. Tomayto, tomahto...

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  17. Which universe is this? by cj171 · · Score: 1

    I thought next Sunday was the 16th....I guess I need a new calendar to match the new rotation of the planet :D

  18. CNN by Carewolf · · Score: 1

    The top invention has do be news networks, just to pad themselves on the back :)

    Seriously "The World Wide Web" is a pretty good bet, the have only listed email so far.

    1. Re:CNN by BeerCat · · Score: 1

      Or, more specifically, how about satellite phones, to allow them to file copy faster. (Technically, sat phones are different from cellphone / mobiles, already listed, but CNN may deem them different enough).

      Or, for something that Joe public would recognise, how about Central door locking for cars?

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    2. Re:CNN by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      Or, for something that Joe public would recognise, how about Central door locking for cars?

      Sorry, but that's been around for much more than 25 years. I've ridden in 60's Cadillacs with central locking doors.

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    3. Re:CNN by wambaugh · · Score: 1
      Actually, I agree with your joke suggestion. I think 24-hour news networks have changed far more aspects of our society and governance than many people realize. The constant need for "new" material may be a driving force behind both the sensationalization of the mundane and the dilution of serious discourse.

      I would hope that CNN wouldn't have the audacity to name itself the number one innovation, however.

    4. Re:CNN by BeerCat · · Score: 1

      Oh bummer.

      Unless CNN are only looking at when things became common, although that would preclude HDTV and Plasma displays. I suspect that they will fudge the invention date to suit themselves, since they mention CDs only indirectly as digital storage disks (although they refer to them in the article body). Funny how hard disks aren't counted (OK, so the medium is analogue, even though the information stored is digital)

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    5. Re:CNN by Taladar · · Score: 1

      Hitler had propaganda more than 25 years ago...

  19. Not that important by dabeats · · Score: 1

    Come on! The Web isn't that important. We could all live without the web for a month, right????

    1. Re:Not that important by amembleton · · Score: 1

      You're new here aren't you?

      Need to write something to kill 20 seconds.......

    2. Re:Not that important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      From what planet are you and how many Earth months would that be?

  20. Re:frogs post by moz25 · · Score: 1

    First Post doesn't count as innovation IMHO ;-)

  21. The Web, not the Internet by Henrik+S.+Hansen · · Score: 1, Interesting
    It couldn't be the Internet, since that is obviously older than 25 years.

    It's the World Wide Web.

  22. Boo on this list. by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For example, many people turn off their PCs (No. 3) and their HDTV (No. 19) or plasma screen TVs (No. 18) as they leave their homes.

    Excuse me? PCs are VERY important and probably deserving of #3 but to say that HDTV and Plasma are in the top 100 is pushing it.

    I have only seen HDTV at stores and on display at the state fair (I'm relatively unimpressed). I know one single person that has it and he uses it through DirecTV. I don't know a single person that owns a Plasma screen and I really don't think that they are terribly important.

    HDTV is a bunch of tax-funded bullshit that's going to bring down the right to record as you choose. Media conglomorates aren't going to want you to have digitized recordings of high-def format because then you can compete with their DRMd discs.

    Boo on this list.

    1. Re:Boo on this list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For example, many people turn off their PCs (No. 3)

      Turn off their PCs??!? This is scary stuff. There should have been a warning.

    2. Re:Boo on this list. by metlin · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I feel so about most of the things on the list, too.

      How important is HDTV really to *most* Americans?

      Boo to that list, indeed!

    3. Re:Boo on this list. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      How the f$ck plasma screens made it when the picture quality is so lousy that companies like Sony Stops Making Plasma TVs, announced December 24th, 2004, just in time for those boxing day/clearout sales of obsolee tech.

    4. Re:Boo on this list. by jaredcat · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that this is CNN making this list.

      New technologies in communication and broadcasting have strongly effected companies like CNN, so people working there are going to be thinking a lot about how they had to invest $2 billion dollars in HDTV equipment, how they have to do better makeup jobs to cover up blemishes on Plasma TV, etc...

      Given the way they have weighted broadcast/communication technology, I'm expecting #1 to either be the deployment of modern cable networks which have allowed for networks like CNN exist, high speed Internet for everyone, TV on Demand stuff... or possibly something to do with modern geostationary satalite deployment technology.

    5. Re:Boo on this list. by foxfyre · · Score: 1

      Oh my god, you are so wrong. I'm sorry you weren't impressed, but I couldn't deny the truth of HDTV once I got it working at home on our home theater system. HD is not tax-funded bullshit; it's the future of how we see broadcasts, period. If you want to watch standard def, go ahead; when HD hits critical mass, SDTVs will be harder to buy, but you can buy an HDTV and then buy a downconverter to get your cherished standard def back, OK! If you were not impressed by HD, then you either saw a flawed setup or you don't have very good eyesight.

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    6. Re:Boo on this list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just for the record it's not CNN, it's a group of teens gathered by MIT. List seems rather frivolous and blind in several areas IMHO, but what do you expect from kids.

    7. Re:Boo on this list. by uujjj · · Score: 1

      Remember, CNN is a TV channel

  23. Well this is CNN by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    so I am expecting CNN to be listed as the greatest innovation in the past 25 years.

    1. Re:Well this is CNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm no my guess goes to fox news

    2. Re:Well this is CNN by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised Jon Stewart didn't make the list...

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    3. Re:Well this is CNN by bobdotorg · · Score: 1

      Well, given current corporate structure (AOLTimeWarnerHBOCNNOMGWTFBBQ) I'm expecting the AOL CD to rank number one.

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  24. iPod by ponds · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's obviously the iPod, we can stop speculating now.

    1. Re:iPod by krymsin01 · · Score: 1

      Haven't you been paying attention? The iPod has been KILLED!

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    2. Re:iPod by ponds · · Score: 1

      Ok, fine. The zombie iPod then.

    3. Re:iPod by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      It's obviously the iPod, we can stop speculating now.

      Naw, it's the Sony Walkman. All the portable tape players, CD players, and MP3 players that followed owe it all to the walkman. Granted, it probably wasn't the FIRST portable tape player, but it certainly was one of the most popular.

    4. Re:iPod by generic-man · · Score: 1

      No wireless. Less space than an 80GB Archos Multimedia Personal Video Jukebox. Lame.

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  25. RFID by amembleton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am suprised that RFID is at #10 on the list.

    From the article: In creating the list, the group hoped to single out "25 non-medically related technological innovations that have become widely used since 1980, are readily recognizable by most Americans, have had a direct and perceptible impact on our everyday lives, and/or could dramatically affect our lives in the future

    Is RFID really recognisable by most Americans?

    1. Re:RFID by Cmdr+TECO · · Score: 1

      Indeed. The barcode scanner should have occupied that slot as it occupies most of RFID's market niche in the real world today.

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    2. Re:RFID by amembleton · · Score: 1

      Indeed, but RFID, sounds like a better marketing buzz word than barcode; probably why barcode scanner didn't make it.

    3. Re:RFID by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      RFID is all hype. It really reminds me of Java a few years ago, all hype, shitty performance. There's this marketing shill magazine "Frontline newswire", it might as well be called "RFID newswire", because the last 20 or so cover stories have been RFID.

      I'm in the retail packaging industry, so somehow I got signed up for tons of RFID propaganda, it's really driving me crazy, since the technology is really simple, and not particularly useful.

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    4. Re:RFID by cmdrxizor · · Score: 1

      Things like EZ-Pass or the Mobil Speedpass are RFID systems that many people would be familiar with. I think the majority of Americans would recognize these systems, even if they personally do not use them.

    5. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is part of the whole "from free society to the Panoption" trajectory, including video cameras watching you most places in the urban public.

    6. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since they've recently unveiled implantable RFIDs with GPS, I think it is pretty significant.

    7. Re:RFID by robogymnast · · Score: 1

      I would think that most people could not tell you what RFID is, but if you showed them a RFID unit inside a DVD case or something they would probably say "Thats the thing that beeps when you try to leave the store with it."

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    8. Re:RFID by amembleton · · Score: 1

      Yes, but I didn't think those things were RFID. AFAIK, they're just a couple of metalic strips that resonate at a certain frequency that can be detected by the receivers at the exit of a store.

  26. Shopping by zackeller · · Score: 1

    My guess is either the web, as previously guessed, or maybe Online Commerce. The web's great, but I think shopping online is what made it what it is.

    1. Re:Shopping by tomhudson · · Score: 0

      Naw, it's going to be search engines. Without google, yahoo, etc., to help you find things, the internet is a lot less useful.

  27. The iPod WHAT ELSE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being able to take your entire music collection back and forth from work, on trips, long car trips, vacations etc.

    Oh, it doubles as a voice recorder and a mass storage device.

    1. Re:The iPod WHAT ELSE? by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 1

      The iPod is not an invention. Digital music players, perhaps, but that too is just a modification on other forms of audio players.

    2. Re:The iPod WHAT ELSE? by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny
      Being able to take your entire music collection back and forth from work, on trips, long car trips, vacations etc.
      Guess you're not the typical /.er if your entire music collection fits in just 1 iPod :-)
    3. Re:The iPod WHAT ELSE? by yRabbit · · Score: 1

      TOTALLY off topic, but I just had to comment.. The journal entry in your sig made me cry.. really touching, and sad.. it is nice you were able to spend so long (yet so short) with him.

  28. Windows XP! by DrSoCold · · Score: 1

    NOT!

  29. WMD's.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    U can use em for anything!!
    (like scaring the hell out of whiteChristianAmerikans so'll they'll keep U in power, or illegally invade other countries, or...etc..)

  30. Re:The Web, not the Internet by moz25 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Since they put "commercialized GPS" on there, I guess "commercialized Internet" might be a valid option - it would certainly cover the sub-applications like web, voip, email, etc.

  31. I know! by neoform · · Score: 1

    The lightbulb!

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  32. OLED and RFID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have OLED displays or RFID tags affected anyone yet? Are either of them even in widespread use?

  33. Duh! by Brandon+One · · Score: 1

    The Internet.

    1. Re:Duh! by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Try using the internet without a search engine.

      Google etc... you use it every day, and it's so useful that you can't even imagine the net without it, but it's so natural that you don't even notice it.

    2. Re:Duh! by ludw · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Try use Google without the www.

    3. Re:Duh! by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Google and other search engines would still work. They index more than just web pages (for example, news groups).

      Also, if the whole internet were to disapear except for google, it would still work, until google's cached copy disappears.

    4. Re:Duh! by cybermage · · Score: 1

      Try using a search engine without the Internet -- and, while you're at it, try using the Internet without either a 'cell phone' (#2) or computer (#3).

    5. Re:Duh! by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Do you remember what the internet was like before google? Finding anything relevant was getting harder and harder - until indexers like Yahoo came along.

      Without Yahoo, Google, and other indexers, the internet would have choked on its own growth, instead of exploding.

      Do an experiment - try to find something WITHOUT using a search engine.

    6. Re:Duh! by Peyna · · Score: 1

      Apparently you are too young to remember what the Internet was like before Google came along. Last I checked it wasn't dying, Google just provided a quality search engine without annoying advertisements everywhere. Without Google, we'd still have the Internet, sometime just might have a harder time plagiarizing their homework.

      How many people nowadays just have a sheet of bookmarks that they regularly visit online, and save the search engine for when they're traveling or doing some very basic research (any kind of research, such as a consumer)?

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    7. Re:Duh! by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Apparently you are too young to remember what the Internet was like before Google came along.
      Nope, I was online before the internet was available - hosting my own dialup bbs, and I DO remember what the internet was like before Google.
      Last I checked it wasn't dying, Google just provided a quality search engine without annoying advertisements everywhere. Without Google, we'd still have the Internet, sometime just might have a harder time plagiarizing their homework.
      Before search engines/indexers became the norm, the internet was degenerating into "brochureware" and "shovelware". It was crap. You could spend hours/days following a link from site A to site B to site C to site Z and still not find what you were looking for. And the net was a LOT smaller back then.

      Now, you can find what you're looking for, because someone else has already done the searching and indexing.

      How useful is a large library with the books stored in no particular order, and no list of the books available, and where to find them? The net was the same.

    8. Re:Duh! by Peyna · · Score: 1

      Sorry, you can't compare the Internet to a library, unless you library has a bunch of "zines" stuffed in on the bookshelves that look exactly like the book you're looking for so that it could fool even the author until the pages were read.

      I'm just curious what is so important and obscure that you have to find on a regular basis that an Internet search engine has been beneficial? Look at Google's zeitgeist. Almost all of the most popular searches revolved around pop culture and consumerism.

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    9. Re:Duh! by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Curious? Useful / interesting stuff from Google lately:
      1. w3 dom - work related
      2. w3 css2 spec - work related
      3. html char entities - work related
      4. explanations of interference in cat-5 cabling (trying to explain to boss why we shouldn't "rededicate" the unused wires). - work related
      5. cabling schemes - work related
      6. mp4 video decoders - work related
      7. world population growth - past, future
      8. NIMBUS 7, world insolation, solar fluctuations (11-year and longer-term cycles) - slashdot
      9. challenge to Ohio electoral votes - curious
      10. various error messages - work related
      11. competitor's products - work related
      12. digital cameras vs. alleged specs on same cameras (in other words, "effective resolution of 2048x1560" is bullshit for software interpolating a 640x480 grid) - work related
      some other slashdot-related searches
      1. microprocessor history
      2. plasma screens
      3. sony stops making plasma screens
      4. canada mountain dew - to govt site where non-cola drinks have 0 caffeine content added
      5. world gross economic product
      6. invention of paper currency
      7. life span of paper money
      8. jack valenti
      9. nun war rape pill - leads to Bishop stating that nuns can use the pill in war zones to prevent them being targeted for rape
      10. u.n. broadband nation rankings
      11. canadian criminal code 430
      12. *nixish
      13. multics
      Google is like having extra memory added to your brain.
  34. Re:Linux Innovation Strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Linus Tordvals innovation strategy:

    1. See what Microsoft did (i.e. Start Menu)
    2. Copy


    Yeah, it's a little known fact that Linus Torvalds is adding a start menu to the next version of the Linux kernel. I can see you really know what you're talking about. Must have inside information.

  35. stupid cliffhanger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CNN is going to have to come up with something pretty spectacular for me to NOT think they're retarded on this one. If Internet does NOT turn out to be #1, then that means they forgot to put the Internet among the top 25 innovations. In which case, they're just wrong. If it IS #1, well, duh! As we can see, not much of a cliffhanger...

  36. Segway. by ayeco · · Score: 1

    Segway. (not so serious)

  37. What??? by jdwest · · Score: 1

    No "Microsoft Bob" on the list?

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    1. Re:What??? by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > No "Microsoft Bob" on the list?

      It got edged out by the Office Assistant.

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  38. We owe it all to caffeine by KidDev · · Score: 1

    BAWLS!!!!

  39. We won't find out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...until the companies finish the secret bidding with CNN to see who gets the top advertisement spot on the list.

  40. #1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Got to be flying cars!!! Oh, wait...

  41. DVD by mikeporter · · Score: 0

    DVD anyone? ;)

  42. The World Wide Web by lildogie · · Score: 1

    When HTML and HTTP came out, the internet exploded. Home computers started coming out with internet connectivity built-in. (Remember the days of Winsock?)

    I also noted that Magnetic Resonance Imaging wasn't in the article. That technology changed surgery.

    1. Re:The World Wide Web by inkydoo · · Score: 1

      They specifically excluded medical technology. I suspect the list would have been dramatically different otherwise.

    2. Re:The World Wide Web by smithmc · · Score: 1

      When HTML and HTTP came out, the internet exploded. Home computers started coming out with internet connectivity built-in. (Remember the days of Winsock?)

      Winsock (now version 2) is still the primary means by which Windows apps speak TCP/IP. What you mean is "remember the days when Winsock had to be installed separately?".

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  43. number one invention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HOT POCKETS

  44. #1 is the Segway by nightsweat · · Score: 1

    I mean after all the Dean Kamen hype for like two years before he came out with that thing how could it not be?

    Remember, these are journalists they don't admit mistakes.

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  45. #1 innovation by Bloater · · Score: 1

    The number one innovation is...

    The Fleshlight! Super-tight, just like prom night.

  46. A toss up between by Hamstij · · Score: 1

    The DMCA and the Patriot act??

  47. The Internet by bstadil · · Score: 1

    It's a no brainer. The Internet proper

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  48. RDS Radio by amembleton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would have expected RDS Radio to have featured somewhere in the list. Do you have RDS Radio available in the states? Basically as you drive around your car radio looks for a stronger signal from the same station and then switches to it if it finds one. Also you can search for stations based upon criteria like News or Pop Music. And, the radios can display text, like phone numbers for a competion or the name of the track that is playing.

    Other inovations I would have expected, would be Digital Radio and Digital TV. But they aren't as common as RDS because they are newer.

    1. Re:RDS Radio by frdmfghtr · · Score: 1

      Yes it's available here in the states, and my car stereo has RDS capability.

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    2. Re:RDS Radio by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 1

      ah, you crazy brits and your "radio one" or whatever they're calling it these days. No, here in america every station in an area is a being unto itself, you'd never be able to find two stations playing the same thing close enough together for you to pick up both of them. On long car trips that take us outside the range of the stations we know, we'll just listen to CDs instead.

    3. Re:RDS Radio by planetmn · · Score: 1

      RDS isn't common at all in the states. I remember having a rental car in the UK 7 years ago with RDS and thinking it was pretty neat. But in all that time, it hasn't crossed the pond. -dave

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    4. Re:RDS Radio by amembleton · · Score: 1

      I suppose the population density here in the UK is a lot greater than it is in the states. So, with that getting a radio signal would be difficult.

      But, I keep hearing about satelitte radio here on /., so wouldn't that be an innovation, or is it not that widespread?

    5. Re:RDS Radio by JJahn · · Score: 1

      Yes we do have RDS on our FM radio, at least limited parts of it. I can see the name of the station on my radio when I tune to it, and also do the searching based on genre. I think you can also get the name of the song playing on some stations.

      It doesn't really affect me because I use satelite radio or CDs most of the time anyway. But we do have it available.

    6. Re:RDS Radio by snark42 · · Score: 1

      Satelitte radio is not very wide spread at all, only 3-4M subscribers. And we don't have BBC One or anything that is broadcast across the country.

    7. Re:RDS Radio by stienman · · Score: 1

      RDS wouldn't work here because every radio station transmits something different. A few stations broadcas on several frequencies in several areas (such as WUOM in Michigan, it has three stations around the state transmitting exactly the same thing)

      But you can't, say, drive across the country and expect to listen to the same station through a single state, nevermind across the country. The closest would be satellite radio, which doesn't really need to 'switch' stations.

      -Adam

    8. Re:RDS Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well if you drive across Utah you can get LDS radio, does that count?

  49. The George Foreman Grilling Machine by waynegoode · · Score: 4, Funny
    or the George Foreman Grilling Machine.

    Arrrgggghhhh! How could I have so foolishly said The World Wide Web? It's nothing compared to the tasty wholesome lean goodness of a George Foreman Grilling Machine grilled burger!

    1. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Coneasfast · · Score: 1

      Arrrgggghhhh! How could I have so foolishly said The World Wide Web? It's nothing compared to the tasty wholesome lean goodness of a George Foreman Grilling Machine grilled burger!

      just don't say it's a novelty item, you'll really piss him off!

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    2. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by amembleton · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      hey, i like my George Foreman style grill, its quicker than my normal cooker grill. Its Woolworths(UK) own brand copy, but seems to be better desined than the 'genuine' product.

    3. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The new George Foreman Web Browser - knocks out the FAT from your web-surfing experience!

    4. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      Arrrgggghhhh! How could I have so foolishly said The World Wide Web? It's nothing compared to the tasty wholesome lean goodness of a George Foreman Grilling Machine grilled burger!

      You have to admit, before the George Foreman grill it was basically impossible to make a hamburger indoors during the winter. Sure you could throw it in a greasy pan or use a skillet, but it just sat in fat and grease. George Foreman is a true hero.

    5. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by dassbaba · · Score: 4, Funny

      damn straight. What is this World Wide Web anyway? Can you make burgers with it?

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    6. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 3, Funny

      The new George Foreman Web Browser - knocks out the FAT from your web-surfing experience!

      I've heards rumours of a George Foreman file system...

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    7. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 1

      I agree! Plus the congealed sludge in that handy grease catcher makes for a good dip.

    8. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Morphix84 · · Score: 1

      And it's not just any grilled burger, it's a George Foreman sized grilled burger

    9. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by IdleTime · · Score: 0

      Hmmm....

      I have never had a problem grilling a burger outdoors during the winter... Today it's about 80F and sunny....

      Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I live next door to Kennedy Space Center...

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    10. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      Wrong.

      EVERY oven in the united states can fit a broiler pan. Which does almost if not exactly the same thing as the george forman grill.

    11. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by zonker · · Score: 2, Funny

      so... what, you cook off the rocket engines? i'm not sure where you are going with this. ;p

    12. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by martin100 · · Score: 1

      it isnt the same thing, broiling is not the same as contact grilling/searing. two completely different cooking methods.

    13. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I've heards rumours of a George Foreman file system..."

      Don't tell anybody, but George Foreman's hacker alias is "Hans Reiser".

      He wanted to call it the gflmfs (George Foreman Lean Mean Filing System), but the PR guys said that wouldn't sell.

    14. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by kilrogg · · Score: 1

      Why does winter stop you?? Just dust the snow off the BBQ turn up the heat a little higher.

    15. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I heard that as well. It's called GFS. It was slated for release in Q3, but they haven't solved all the problems caused by the requirement that all the files must be named George.

    16. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      True. But I didn't say they were.

      I said that you could cook a burger inside. And, for the sort of thing that you do with a forman grill, a broiler works just fine.

    17. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by naff · · Score: 1
      I've heards rumours of a George Foreman file system...

      All the files have the same name?

    18. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Green+Salad · · Score: 1

      What is this World Wide Web anyway? Can you make burgers with it?

      I don't have the creativity to make a large variety of yummy burgers without it.

    19. Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine by Wdomburg · · Score: 1

      Or you could use a grill pan.

  50. #1 will be. . . . by ELiTeUI · · Score: 1

    EASY CHEESE !

  51. Easy. by MetaPhyzx · · Score: 1

    It's Instant Messaging :P

    No seriously, It has to be the commercializtion of the internet.

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  52. Marmite... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...what else?

  53. Since they can't say the internet (too old)... by Transcendent · · Score: 1

    ...I would have to say DNS (around 1981), which brought the internet to what it is today.

  54. More specific: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think Hypertextlinks. Rest is after that.

  55. CD on list but not DVD ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hrmm, wonder why CDs made the list but DVD's did not. Meanwhile HDTV and Plasma tvs are on the list but still no DVD ? Don't understand that one really.

  56. Wow, I couldn't disagree more by maynard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have only seen HDTV at stores and on display at the state fair (I'm relatively unimpressed). I know one single person that has it and he uses it through DirecTV.

    I own two HDTVs, an Hitachi rear projection CRT set and a Sony HS-20 front project or for my living room. Combined with a decent DD 5.1 sound and a home theater really does compete with commercial movie theaters. In Boston every broadcast station is now digital; that's ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, FOX, UPN, and WC. I actually get more HD content from broadcast than DirecTV (I have DirectTV too). HBO and Showtime in HD is pretty damn nice. Widescreen aspect ration is very damn nice! Uhhh... whether HDTV is the greatest consumer invention since sliced bread, I don't know. But... I like it! :)

    HDTV is a bunch of tax-funded bullshit that's going to bring down the right to record as you choose. Media conglomorates aren't going to want you to have digitized recordings of high-def format because then you can compete with their DRMd discs.

    Uhhh... just so we're clear: HDTV display technology and broadcast standards are different from the political policies being pursued by media conglomerates in their attempt to limit consumer freedom. Right? HDTV deployment does not mandate the consumer limitation by politcial fiat. --M

    1. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HDTV deployment does not mandate the consumer limitation by politcial fiat.

      When every TV has to be fitted with HDTV receivers at the expense of the consumer by FEDERAL mandate it IS politically motivated.

      NO, HDTV is NOT good for the consumer.

    2. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      It does by corporate fiat though. When they all got together, they could have decided to use standard computer resolutions for HDTV, but they didn't, instead choosing similar, but incompatible resolutions, thus guaranteeing that most people will continue to buy both computer monitors and TVs, except for the few that will use scan converters, with less than perfect results.

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    3. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by maynard · · Score: 1

      When every TV has to be fitted with HDTV receivers at the expense of the consumer by FEDERAL mandate it IS politically motivated.

      NO, HDTV is NOT good for the consumer.


      So you're claiming that HDTV is "NOT good for the consumer" because consumers will have to buy a set top box (or migrate to cable) after a certain point within the next few upcoming years? Just how else would you handle a nationwide migration so large as this? The migration to digital requires a cutoff point where everyone who wants to watch broadcast television will need an ATSC receiver (an "HDTV" receiver is meaningless). Broadcasters can't be expected to continue broadcasting in both digital and analogue standards permenently; never mind the waste in bandwidth. So just how else would you recommend the transition be done? Would you prefer an incompatability nightmare between television manufacturers and broadcast studios, with consumers left holding the bag like all those who purchased Betamax recorders? Sometimes the government is exactly the right arbitrator of such standards (regardless if they select the "right" standard).

      One last point I wish I had made previously... for all those people who will bitch about TV shows all sucking, so why bother with HDTV... I reply: "Watching the Patriots win the Superbowl and the Sox win the World Series in High Definition made it all worthwhile." HDTV really works with broadcast sports, especially games where following a small ball in a longshot means understanding what just happened. And PBS shows like Nature and Nova in HD really benefit from the additional resolution too. As for whether Alias, Law and Order, CSI, etc are worth the additional money... well, that's debatable. --M

    4. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by maynard · · Score: 1

      It does by corporate fiat though. When they all got together, they could have decided to use standard computer resolutions for HDTV, but they didn't, instead choosing similar, but incompatible resolutions, thus guaranteeing that most people will continue to buy both computer monitors and TVs, except for the few that will use scan converters, with less than perfect results.

      Well the nightmare of various resolution standards: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p/24, blah blah blah was pretty fucking ludicrous. No doubt. But sometimes that a standard exists for everyone to migrate toward is more important than choosing the "technically right" standard from the start. --M

    5. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by ukleafer · · Score: 1

      Regardless of any of this, I agree with the parent post that HDTV and Plasma hardly represent the 18th and 19th most important innovations of the last 25 years. Crystal based display panels maybe, but Plasma, and definitely HDTV are undeserving of their inclusion in the top 25.

    6. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      In Boston every broadcast station is now digital; that's ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, FOX, UPN, and WC. I actually get more HD content from broadcast than DirecTV (I have DirectTV too)


      See, my big problem with that is there is almost nothing I watch on any of the 'big' networks. IMO, they produce crap content for the masses, but nothing interesting. Who the hell wants to watch "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Fear Factor" in HD?

      Almost all of the interesting TV that I do watch (mostly on the digital specialty channels) is nowhere near being ready for HD, and until that happens, I and others will probably look at HD as something that will eventually be cool but doesn't currently have attractive content just yet. Certainly not enough to justify the purchase.

      I actually know someone who sold his big-screen and went for a similar sized HDTV. Then when he realized everything was stretched out to fit the screen (or risk wearing out the monitor unevenly with grey bars on the side) he decided to buy a smaller TV for normal content and use the HD for DVDs and the like.

      I'm glad you get mileage/enjoyment out of your HDTVs, but I view it as something to wait a few years for. I'll stick with my 43" rear-projection non-HDTV for now.

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    7. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Your friend is a dumbass.

      If you set your cablebox, or what have you, up correctly, it will obviate the grey bars in HDTV mode. Now occasionally stations will screw up the commericals resulting in sort of an inset letterbox thing going on, but it's a commercial, who cares. Other than that the TV will adjust appropriately to the aspect ratio presented, even as it changes frequently, such as during a news cast.

      Next time, tell him to read the instructions, or at least keep pushing buttons until something reasonable happens.

    8. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Why can't broadcasters broadcast an analogue and digital signal forever? I personally am in the cam that thinks HDTV sucks now and will continue to. Cable Card for HDTV?? PLEASE! I give Cable Card about 6 months before it's cracked.

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    9. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by bmwm3nut · · Score: 1

      Broadcasters can't be expected to continue broadcasting in both digital and analogue standards permenently; never mind the waste in bandwidth. So just how else would you recommend the transition be done?

      what about making it backwards compatible? i know it's harder to design things this way, but it eases transitions. like when they switched from black and white to color. the color signal was designed so that it was really black and white plus some extra color information. that way black and white tv's could still (and still do to this day) work with the same signal that's sent to the color tv. this way broadcasters could easily switch to color signals and when people were ready they could upgrade and all was well. i bet a similar thing could have been done with HD, but since i'm not an EE, i won't speculate as to how.

    10. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      It's kinda funny how so many companies talk about "convergence", or at least give lip service to it, when in reality it's their choices to make things different for the sake of being different that prevents it. Modern day tower of Babel.

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    11. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      1) Your friend is a dumbass.

      If you set your cablebox, or what have you, up correctly, it will obviate the grey bars in HDTV mode.


      And you're an ass munch, which is why you posted as an Anonymous Coward.

      With an HDTV monitor and an NTSC signal (which is what he had), you have two choices: stretch the image horizontally (which he didn't like) or the grey bars (which is advised against by the manufacturer since it wears out the TV disproportionately).

      You seem to miss the point that a 4x3 image displayed on a 16x9 screen will need to have its aspect ratio changed, and it was that he didn't like -- it was distracting and he couldn't get used to it.

      This is what the manual said. Now go stick your year up your bum and stop talking.

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    12. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by bitingduck · · Score: 1

      And without HDTV, nobody would have been able to tell what was underneath that wardrobe malfunction.

    13. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then he shouldn't buy TV's at walmart.

      A satellite or cable box will typically correct the NTSC signal and give you black bars for non-hd programming. Assuming you tell the box to deliver a 16:9 picture.

      Also, most HDTV's have around 4 formating options (including do nothing). Typically I use the first letter boxing one for anything that 4:3 but not news since that just snips the top and bottom off which usually means the important stuff is still centered to the point that it's not noticeble. The stretched mode is pretty good for some video games though.

      There's this publication, I don't know if you've heard of it, its called consumer reports, for the literate, it can be a handy tool at avoid throwing money away for no damn reason.

      No matter what, he's a retard. If you have an HDTV, but not cable, then the market would have to have a fairly large number of HD channels to make the TV useful, if this is not the case WTF. If you have cable, the cable box solves the problem. If you have a dish, same difference. Therefore, your friend and you are idiots.

    14. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recommend that we not be double-fucked paying for HDTV deployment. We paid once for the government to mandate it and then we are going to pay again for the hardware.

      We should NOT be required to move to an unnecessary standard. TV does not need to be better than it is. Sure it's nice to have but there was absolutely no reason it had to be done.

      It's obviosu that you would defend it as you have invested the money. For the rest of us (who aren't early adopters) it's a waste of money.

    15. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We should NOT be required to move to an unnecessary standard. TV does not need to be better than it is. Sure it's nice to have but there was absolutely no reason it had to be done.

      Yeah. And Black and White TV from the 50s is good enough too. Who needs color? Why bother with improvement when inertia of the old provides everything we need?

    16. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by foxfyre · · Score: 1

      HDTV is good for me. I love it!

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    17. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by pappy97 · · Score: 1

      "When every TV has to be fitted with HDTV receivers at the expense of the consumer by FEDERAL mandate it IS politically motivated.

      NO, HDTV is NOT good for the consumer."

      No TV has to be fitted with HDTV receivers, because there is no such thing. There ARE ATSC receivers (which tune all kinds of digitial signals, HD and non-HD), and even, yes, all TV's without it may need an ATSC receiver.

      BUT the federal gov will be mandating, at the very least, digitial 480i television, NOTHING THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO HDTV.

      But hey, thanks for your ignorance.

    18. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't aware that color TV was mandated by our government. I thought it was created by the industry.

      Yup, I'm right. I own.

    19. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by tepples · · Score: 1

      they could have decided to use standard computer resolutions for HDTV, but they didn't, instead choosing similar, but incompatible resolutions, thus guaranteeing that most people will continue to buy both computer monitors and TVs

      Either that, or video cards will start supporting 1280x720 pixel and 1920x1080 pixel video modes.

    20. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "I own two HDTVs, an Hitachi rear projection CRT set and a Sony HS-20 front project or for my living room."

      That doesn't make HDTV a significant development.

      It means you're kind of a freak.

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    21. Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more by vettemph · · Score: 1

      If HDTV is innovation then so is jumping from 640x480 to 1600x1200 on my PC. Since when is the quite normal progresion of resolution, foot print and features of an existing device considered innovative. TV is TV and TV sucks. I don't need to be "programmed".

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  57. Al Gore Says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the Interweb! Yes I invented it!

  58. #1 will be search engines by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    #1 will be search engines - google, yahoo, etc.

    They make the web, newgroups, etc useful.

    "Google it" :-)

    1. Re:#1 will be search engines by msherer · · Score: 1

      Interesting that the list so far omits both the web browser and the search engine. Other things that I think deserve a place on the list: The Inkjet printer The laser printer Digital Audio Digital Video mapping of the human genome Electronic Directories (ie. LDAP) etc. Just reminds you that there have been an incredible number of foundational innovations that work synergistically to create these larger breakthroughs. A list of the top 25 is almost impossible without omitting some really significant ones. There are even some like the fax machine that have already come and gone.

    2. Re:#1 will be search engines by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      There are even some like the fax machine that have already come and gone.

      Unfortunately, this is not true. The fax machine is still very popular and in wide use in many industries, namely real estate and law. With the glacial pace those industries adopt new technology, we can probably expect them to continue using faxes for the next century or so.

    3. Re:#1 will be search engines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe you should wash your dog

  59. The finest operating system on earth by hubertf · · Score: 1

    NetBSD - www.NetBSD.org

    1. Re:The finest operating system on earth by Megane · · Score: 1
      That's unpossible... because BSD Is Dying!

      (or was that "BSD is dying" is dying?)

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    2. Re:The finest operating system on earth by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      well, that's really saying Unix is, and since the makers of the list stretched the 25 year limit a bit, we should be able to do so also. Maybe half the list could just be rolled in to category of "microcircuitry"

  60. What is wrong here by canuck57 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... PCs (#3), and e-mail (#5). ...

    Hm, in 1978 I remember using a Commodore PET PC. I believe Apple IIs also existed in 1978... BSD was there also with uuget and uuput and we bundled mail for nightly transmission. 2005 - 1978 == 27 years.

    1. Re:What is wrong here by Lord+Haha · · Score: 1

      I think they are reffering more to "PCs" as windows 3.1 PCs onwards saddly...

  61. IAWTP by Uber+Banker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How can PCs be #3 when they are the requirement for #1 (if #1 is indeed teh intarweb) - perhaps a hierarchy could be ordered - perhaps assessed on their own merits, anyway, I Agree With The Parent? Is this reflex journalism another excuse to fill the time and earn some $$$?

    Or is this another excuse for hypnotic television:
    #1 Rule of profitable television - do not offend the advertised
    #2 Rule of profitable television - do not challenge the viewer
    #3 Rule of profitable television - pander to the viewer's preconceptions, opinions and biases
    #4 Rule of profitable television - make the viewer have a self assured, warm-inside feeling (see #2)
    #5 Rule of profitable television - make the viewer feel they have been challenged and have additional insight, even though they do now

    'Top 25 innovations', 'Top 100 80s music shows', 'Evening News', etc, fit so so so easily into this convention. It troubles me.

    1. Re:IAWTP by jessecurry · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How can PCs be #3 when they are the requirement for #1 (if #1 is indeed teh intarweb)
      PCs are not required for the internet to function. Almost any consumer good that you purchase now has a version with internet connectivity; these range from the obvious, cellular telephones, to the not so obvious, washer/dryer, oven, refrigerator, etc...
      PCs just happened to be the first such item that most individuals used to connect to the internet. The internet itself is far more valuable to society than just a forum to host hypertext documents.

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    2. Re:IAWTP by Weirdofreak · · Score: 1

      How can PCs be #3 when they are the requirement for #1

      Even if that were true, many things are more innovative than their prerequisites. I'd argue that compilers are more innovative than Assembler because they allow for portable, easy to maintain code, but without Assembler there'd be no compilers. Verbal communication is far more innovative than the ability to create and hear sounds, and writing more innovative than a method of making fairly small, precise marks on something.

    3. Re:IAWTP by BandwidthHog · · Score: 1

      Also, and this may come as a bit of a surprise to some our younger viewers, but computers were generally quite useful in those dark, lonely days before teh intarweb.

      Hell, some might even say they were *more* useful in those dark, lonely days.

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    4. Re:IAWTP by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

      You are aware, I hope, that all of those 'other' devices you mentioned have a computer inside of them (defined by central processing unit {variation on Von Neumann machine}, random access memory, read only memory, stored programs {in rom or ram}, and some form of input/output {usb, ethernet, serial, etc..} - writable storage medium - aka harddrive - is optional).

      The terms, 'mainframe', 'mini', 'micro' (aka 'personal computer' or 'pc'), are all just marketing terms. A computer is a computer, some are just more specialized in one form or another; at the heart of all of the different types is the basic components of a stored program computer. The newer crop of devices, while having features that are primarily oriented to a specific non-computer area (wireless telephony, washing machine, refrigerator, etc) are still at their core computers.

      Marketers love to hawk their wares as the latest thing since sliced bread; at the heart of all the 'new' technology is old technology (in this case technology at least 50 years old) - just a variation on a theme. That is not bad, in fact it is very useful to find new ways to use old technology - to extend its usefulness. Lets just not get too carried away and make sweeping statements - like PCs (computers) are not needed for the internet to function. On the contrary, they always will be needed in one form or another (perhaps they will be analog computers in some far distant future) in order for an internet to exist simply because of the processing required (pattern matching, counting and arithmatic operations at its lowest level).

      Furthermore, personal devices that can be dynamically programmed and physically modified to create new interfaces and uses will always be in demand because of their utility and personalization. They certainly won't go away. Will they look like the monstrosities we have sitting under our desks now - no. Will they serve the same functions - yes and more that we haven't even thought of yet. 'Personal Computer' is just that - a computer for the person; today that can be a desktop computer, a personal digital assistant, a cell phone/PDA, or a wearable computer integrated into clothing. The PC will be with us long after you and I are dead.

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    5. Re:IAWTP by jessecurry · · Score: 1

      I have to say that I did consider all of this when making my previous statement, but my fingers are not agile enough to type all of that :)
      I do agree that the term personal computer can be applied to anything that contains the main components of a computer and functions as such, but for the sake of clarity I left that out of my argument.
      After reading the parent's post I concluded that his definition of Personal Computer was the commonly accepted, marketable definition and replied with that in mind.

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    6. Re:IAWTP by Trillan · · Score: 1

      In the same vein, a personal computer is a pre-requirement for portable computers. The list seems to be bsased on impact, rather than any kind of requirement tree.

  62. Obvious hint by nperii · · Score: 1

    There is a hint about the #1 spot in the picture of the cellphone. The screen reads "Calling...INTERNET". I think it's obvious that this is going to be #1.

  63. Well... by Kylere · · Score: 1

    Well it could be HTML/Web Pages, but it should be Open Source Software and the Wonder Bra.

    1. Re:Well... by BlueCorvette · · Score: 0

      You're close with the Wonder Bra, but shouldn't it be the "sports bra".

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  64. probably by serano · · Score: 1
    It's hard to read through the high-minded thinking of the journalists and editors at cnn to guess what they'd identify as a top innovation, but here are my guesses...
    • Jerry-Springer-style news shows
    • embedded journalism
    • the patent-and-sue business model
    • electronic voting machines
    • facial recognition software
    • cnn.com
    • The George Foreman Grill

    If there were any justice in the world it would be:
    • Half-Life 2
  65. "Personal Computers" do not belong on their list by jfw25 · · Score: 1
    The first mass-marketed personal computer, the Apple II, shipped in 1977, more than 25 years ago. (There were, of course, personal computers before that (I coveted an IMSAI, myself), but they were technology exploration toys, not attempts at reasonably general purpose machines). (Plus there was the PDP-8 that my college roommate had in our dorm room, but that's probably stretching "personal computer" a bit.)

    Unless, of course, you are using the word "innovated" in its modern sense, i.e. "has been turned into a monopoly by Microsoft", in which case there are several other things which don't yet belong on their list of "innovations of the past 25 years".

  66. Top 25 Innovations of the Past 25 Years by ModulusFree · · Score: 1

    Cherry flavored douche should be #1

  67. Can it be the internet? by ponds · · Score: 1

    The internet is more than 25 years old. So they can't do it.

    I could see them doing something like "commercialized internet" like they did for GPS.

    1. Re:Can it be the internet? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1
      The internet is more than 25 years old. So they can't do it.

      I could see them doing something like "commercialized internet" like they did for GPS.

      Email is pretty much the same age as Internet, which is closer to 35 than 25 years.

      On the other hand, innovation means roughly the same thing as commercialization, I think...

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    2. Re:Can it be the internet? by shl1 · · Score: 1

      Cell phones also have been around for a lot longer htan 25 years.

      http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa0708 99 .htm

    3. Re:Can it be the internet? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      In creating the list, the group hoped to single out "25 non-medically related technological innovations that have become widely used since 1980, are readily recognizable by most Americans, have had a direct and perceptible impact on our everyday lives, and/or could dramatically affect our lives in the future."

      Yes, of course it's the Internet. I can think of no technology that has altered the way we research, interact, and communicate than the Internet. It definitely has only gained widespread use since the 1990s. That is #1.

  68. It's obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thermos bottle!

  69. 3-blade razor by dankelley · · Score: 1

    Or are they up to 4-blade by now?

    1. Re:3-blade razor by Sophrosyne · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm holding out for a 6 blade razor with vibration.

    2. Re:3-blade razor by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      I think some companies have moved to 4 blades (Wilkinson Quattro), but theres no real innovation.

      Shaving is shaving.

      But, if gilette can bring out a vibrating razor, and manage to market it then god forbid what other devices are being designed. I wonder how the marketting meeting went?

      Did the guy hold out a normal razor with his wifes pink passion super bunny duct-taped to the side of it?
      Is this guy still alive?

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    3. Re:3-blade razor by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Gotta love those Mach 3 commercials... "Less irritation! You take one stroke, it takes three!" Okay, if that's true, why not develop a Mach 100? "Less irritation! You take one stroke, it takes a hundred!"

      Having said that, I use the Mach 3 to shave. I think the real innovation is how the head pivots, not in how many blades they stuck in there.

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    4. Re:3-blade razor by eoinmadden · · Score: 0

      I think in Germany, Wilkinson Sword brought Gilette to court , saying that Gilette's claim that their M3 Power razor gives a closer shave is false advertising. Wilkinson Sword won. http://www.appliancemagazine.com/zones/consumer/06 _housewares/news.php?article=7876&zone=6&first=1

  70. obviously... by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 1

    the #1 innovation in the last 25 years was......

    Windows.

    After all, Microsoft does nothing but innovate, right?

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  71. Read the article by Dean+Edmonds · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They don't say that these innovations were created in the last 25 years, just that they "have become widely used since 1980".

    The net most certainly falls into that category.

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  72. ooh ooh by MaynardJanKeymeulen · · Score: 1

    I know! Must be Clippy (TM)(C)

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  73. #1 is obvioulsy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the flush toilet.

  74. DVD's will be number one. by loftwyr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The DVD isn't on the list.

    As HDTV made it and DVDs were invented in the past 25 years (and this is CNN, not Nature) it'll be #1.

    1. Re:DVD's will be number one. by Markus+Landgren · · Score: 1

      Or maybe DVDs will be #8.

  75. My Vote by Momoru · · Score: 1

    It's obviously going to be WWW (they may even put the internet, they were wrong about airbags and email which are both older then 25 years).

    But my vote is the console gaming system! I've certainly wasted my whole life playing everything from Atari to GabeCube.

  76. The hook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. 1: It is the hook they throw to make you talk about it, wait in anticipation and come back. Is it older than 25 years?

    "The oldest profession" etc.

  77. cable? by cratermoon · · Score: 1

    It would be a historical cop-out, but CNN could claim something amorphous like "consumer-friendly cable television", which became big around the mid-late 80s, or digital/fiber cable, from the 90s. Either would allow that "and CNN was there from the beginning" self-congratulating angle. It would require some rather convoluted constraints of what is an "invention", since "cable" has been around as long as TV, and in-home cable television is over 25 years old.

    1. Re:cable? by SparklesMalone · · Score: 1

      How about "instant global news"? Is that amorphous enough.

      CNN inherits from abstract InstantGlobalNews

  78. Windows by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

    I know the answer!!! Windows!! *gag*.... It's always said that failure is very important to science, and Windows is a perfect demonstration of how to do some things very well, while failing in the ways that normal users have no idea how to deal with. =P

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  79. Top 25 by psicard · · Score: 1

    #1 TV

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    1. Re:Top 25 by karniv0re · · Score: 1

      Lessee, 2005 minus 25, makes it... carry the one... factor in leap years... 1980. Man, TVs were invented two years before I was born? Shit, that makes me feel old.

  80. Since 1980? by fkx · · Score: 1

    I'd say: Number one is the IBM PC

  81. Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why isn't Google on the list ?

  82. Re:frogs post by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Only if they're using a search engine like google.

    Search engines will be #1. Without them, the signal-to-noise ratio of the net would be higher than here on slashdot.

  83. #1 has to be by NIK282000 · · Score: 1

    Pr0n, any /.er will agree.

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  84. Oh, I know... by jeffmock · · Score: 1

    Credit card readers built into the side of gas pumps.

    jeff

  85. Doh! by jfw25 · · Score: 1

    "have become widely used since 1980". Always look for the weasel words.

  86. Schick Quattro Razor by SPBesui · · Score: 1
  87. #1 vagisil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yea can't help but fix the nastyness!

  88. microwave oven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    microwave oven

    1. Re: Microwave oven by leipold · · Score: 1

      Yes, indeed. The microwave oven has changed the structure of our civilization.

      Do you remember how long it takes to cook without a microwave? With a microwave, you can have two full-time workers in a family and still cook dinner every night. One of the secondary consequences is the rise of full-day daycare and kindergarten.

      Whether these social trends are good or bad is left as an exercise for the student.

    2. Re: Microwave oven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first commericial microwave oven was sold in 1967 so it is well out of range of this poll.

      Here's a fascinating "best of the century" article by Forbes

  89. Couldn't tell you by Snowspinner · · Score: 1

    Once the personal computer came in at #3, the list was pretty much over for me.

    Cell phones are more important than the personal computer?

    At that point, I half expect the Clapper to be #1.

  90. But one thing though... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...The Internet did not become a commercial entity until 1992, the year that the US military moved their servers off the Internet (more or less).

    But you have to admit one thing though: the real explosion of Internet use started in the fall of 1995, when Windows 95 with its built-in SLIP/PPP networking stack gave PC compatible users easy access to the Internet for the first time (Windows 3.1 could access the Internet using third-party addons, but given the nature of computer users that was still relatively rare).

    1. Re:But one thing though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember using Linux to dial up to my university's dialup annex server, telnet over to an HP-UX machine and run some software to emulate a SLIP connection. Good times. Shortly after they introduced PPP dialup on that same annex server and gave us all dedicated IP addresses. I'm proud to say my 24/7 connection to their server was the reason they still have a 120 hour limit on their dialup lines. Damn kids staying connected 24 hours a day like it's some kind of dedicated link! ;-)

    2. Re:But one thing though... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      I think this is a bit backwards. Win95 had built-in SLIP/PPP because of the popularity of third-party add-ons. The Web was obviously nowhere as big in 1995 as it is today (or was even in the late 90's) but it was already well established in the public consciousness.

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    3. Re:But one thing though... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      "Win95 had built-in SLIP/PPP because of the popularity of third-party add-ons. The Web was obviously nowhere as big in 1995 as it is today"

      Indeed, I have a copy of Office 97. The version of Outlook in this requires an add-on in order to access POP, SMTP and IMAP; it does not support these out of the box.

      Outlook was originally intended for corporate intranets and exchange servers, not the internet. Even as late as '97

      Wierd but true.

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    4. Re:But one thing though... by martyn+s · · Score: 1

      So how did users get third party addons without the internet? I mean, obviously they couldn't download it.

    5. Re:But one thing though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how did users get third party addons without the internet? I mean, obviously they couldn't download it.

      They could and did.

      As a PC user, you got the internet by connecting to a BBS (Bulletin Board Service) using a modem connected to the serial port, your terminal emulator (hyperterm for example) and whatever protocol both ends supported (usually Kermit or [XYZ]Modem) to download the Trumpet Winsock TCP/IP stack. You would usually download a web browser, newsreader and/or email client at the same time since these were the common applications of the time that required a TCP/IP stack.

      Once that was installed, you would have true internet connectivity to your BBS and everyone who was connected to the BBS via the internet. A BBS which provided this service was known as an ISP (Internet Service Provider). It's worth noting that, prior to the widespread adoption of TCP/IP, the BBSes communicated between each other using their serial ports and a sort of ad hoc P2P network.

    6. Re:But one thing though... by The_Bad_Bob · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I have a copy of Office 97. The version of Outlook in this requires an add-on in order to access POP, SMTP and IMAP; it does not support these out of the box.

      I have a copy of Office 97, and Outlook works fine with POP3/SMTP. Not sure about IMAP, though.

    7. Re:But one thing though... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

      Daniel (haven't I seen you on GEnie way, way in the past?),

      But the issue here is that with Windows 3.1x versions you still have to download, install and configure Trumpet Winsock to get PPP connectivity to the Internet, something that the majority of end users will not try to do! But with Windows 95 offering SLIP/PPP connectivity as part of its network configuration, that made it possible for very easy setup to connect to the Internet.

    8. Re:But one thing though... by bernywork · · Score: 1

      Then there are those who were still so stuck with Trumpet Winsock, that they continued to use it on Windows 95.

      I bought a version of it because I preferred it to the Win95 dial up connectivity. I guess when you use it for so long under Win 3.1 and worked with it on a day to day basis, it becomes something you don't want to let go of.

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    9. Re:But one thing though... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      Daniel (haven't I seen you on GEnie way, way in the past?),

      Most likely, yes. What was your nic?

      But the issue here is that with Windows 3.1x versions you still have to download, install and configure Trumpet Winsock to get PPP connectivity to the Internet, something that the majority of end users will not try to do! But with Windows 95 offering SLIP/PPP connectivity as part of its network configuration, that made it possible for very easy setup to connect to the Internet.

      I understand what you're saying. My point is that while "the majority of end users" may not have bothered with the Trumpet Winsock config process (or the equivalent process with the various add-ons available on other OSs) enough users did to make Web use fairly widespread well before Windows came bundled with SLIP/PPP. Microsoft was, as usual, responding to and exploiting an existing phenomenon, not creating one.

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    10. Re:But one thing though... by drsmithy · · Score: 1
      Wierd but true.

      It's not really weird at all - Outlook's primary purpose by a wide margin is to be an Exchange client. Even today, Outlook is a poor choice if you aren't connecting it to an Exchange server.

  91. What I don't see... by VikingBerserker · · Score: 1

    Is the VCR. Granted, I'm pretty sure it was developed for home use before 1979, but it certainly didn't become widespread until the 1980s.

  92. Nah, COLD FUSION by WhiterThanWhite · · Score: 1

    That's got to be it!

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  93. The Ronco Turnip Twaddler. by s.o.terica · · Score: 1

    Nothing comes close.

    1. Re:The Ronco Turnip Twaddler. by ElBorba · · Score: 1

      Indeed, the Turnip Twaddler was Ronco's Opus.

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  94. 20. Space shuttle ??? by gloth · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "have had a direct and perceptible impact on our everyday lives, and/or could dramatically affect our lives in the future..."

    Ok, I have to call bullshit here. The space shuttle does not have much of an impact on our lives. Other than being a drain of tax money, of course.

    It's old and obsolete technology, so it won't have much of an effect on our future either. These days, it doesn't inspire anyone anymore either. I can get excited about SpaceShip one, but about the next shuttle mission? Give me a break!

    1. Re:20. Space shuttle ??? by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      It could be argued that the attempt to match the Shuttle helped bring about the fall of the Soviet Union; they spent far too much on Energia / Buran. So it could be said that the Shuttle has had a largish effect on the lives of quite a lot of people...

      In itself, though, you're right; what has had a major effect is the satellites, and they've mostly been launched by disposable rockets.

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    2. Re:20. Space shuttle ??? by kramer · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget that the basic design of the shuttle is Nixon era technology, it's design approved almost 35 years ago.

  95. Monday January 18th? by mattnl · · Score: 1

    Did anybody else notice that January 18th is actually a Tuesday?

    1. Re:Monday January 18th? by NitsujTPU · · Score: 1

      And my birthday.

  96. Onwards to space! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One thing I noticed is that despite all the flak it has been receiving lately, the space shuttle still comes in at number 20.

    I think number one will have something to do with either transportation or recycling. What exactly I do not know though.

  97. If not "the Internet" then Google, obviously by spywarearcata.com · · Score: 1

    It took many other ideas such as "Page Rank" (compare to the Science Citations Index, which ranks papers by times cited) and "Search Engine" and made into a tool that is universally used by people with access to the Internet.

  98. Number 1 innovation is.... by zmollusc · · Score: 1

    The tinfoil helmet. So much less cumbersome than the old helmets made from lead sheet(although they did give you big strong neck muscles).

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  99. #13 is wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Airbags were invented in the 70s or 60s defently not the 80s or 90s. Same thing with cell phones, they were made in the late early to mid 70s.

    1. Re:#13 is wrong by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? Maxwell Smart had his shoe phone back in 1965!

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  100. www by noamt · · Score: 1

    That's easy. Since the World Wide Web is not in places 2-25, it must be ranked number 1. They might as well call it "The Internet", even though the Internet includes e-mail (#5).

  101. #1 The vibrator by Sophrosyne · · Score: 1

    Keeping women from going mental has been the best invention of the century.

  102. The cell phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or the DVD. But I think cells are used enough that they would warrant being in the top 25.

  103. The internet (as we know it) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    was born in the early 90's.

    1. Re:The internet (as we know it) by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      was born in the early 90's.

      No it wasn't. More like the late 1960's. Just because you didn't start using the Internet until 1994 doesn't mean nobody else was using it. People read e-mail, chatted on Usenet, transferred files with FTP, telnetted to other machines, etc. all before 1990. Saying the Internet was born in 1994 when Mosaic started becoming popular is stupid. You might as well say it didn't become really REALLY popular until Napster was born. Free music on the Interweb!!

    2. Re:The internet (as we know it) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A case could be made for as early as '92, I would say September '96, but it wasn't relevent to the culture until the early to mid 90's in either case.

    3. Re:The internet (as we know it) by m50d · · Score: 1

      That's because the internet as you know it *is* the web. But there's far more to the internet, and most of it was pre-90s - online games (via telnet), discussion fora (usenet), email and instant messaging were all well established in the 80s

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    4. Re:The internet (as we know it) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      September 1996, AKA the September that Never Ended.

      QED

      The only things on the net that peaked in the pre-web era were the signal to noise ratio in newsgroups (which had been declining for a while), MUDs, and Xtrek.

      The NSF buildout is what made the internet what it is. For Geeks it's a less important milestone. For the population at large, it's the only one that matters.

  104. an entire category is missing. by macsox · · Score: 1

    the past 25 years have been so full of new technological advances that it's impossible to objectively determine what the top innovation has been, much less what a 3rd party that is the brainchild of ted turner would choose.

    of course, they'll pick the web. but what about military applications, that are missing from the list? the american military has driven technology in to nearly incomprehensible realms, and they seem only to get recognition for doing so once the products are mainstreamed.

  105. I'll say this about HDTV. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you're a football fan, HDTV is better than potable water. I mean holy crap, it's magnificent. Finally, I understand why we stopped displaying our dead people in parlors so we could turn them into living rooms.

    1. Re:I'll say this about HDTV. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're a football fan, HDTV is better than potable water. I mean holy crap, it's magnificent. Finally, I understand why we stopped displaying our dead people in parlors so we could turn them into living rooms.

      Damn straight!!!

  106. RTFA, it is quite funny! by zmollusc · · Score: 1

    I hadn't realised that li-ion and NiMH rechargable batteries were invented for cellphones and that cellphones would be useless without them. My first cellphone had 6 x aa nicads and worked just fine. and i could recharge it.
    Also, digital cameras are possible only because of the development of flash memory (a miniturised hard disk) and OLED. Wow!

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  107. No, silly rabbit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CNN's #1 innovation in the past 25 years will be the establishment of a 24-hour, 7-day a week cable news network. This has changed the way we get our news, the way we look at the world, and our expectations for results right now (e.g., election).

  108. Strange use of the word innovation by Decaff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For example, how could they include 'Commercialised GPS'(6)? The innovation is GPS alone, or is making something 'commercial' innovative these days?

    Also, portable computers (3) have not been 'innovative' in the usual sense of the word - its been a long slow evolution over decades, from small-screened 'luggables' in the early 1980s.

    1. Re:Strange use of the word innovation by Peyna · · Score: 1

      Of course the commercialization of a product is an innovation. There are a lot of things which were not much use until made available to public and mass produced or properly marketed. (For some reason, all I can think of at the moment are certain type of alcohol, but there are others like cassettes.)

      If they hadn't opened up GPS to the public, I highly doubt a private system would be available yet.

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    2. Re:Strange use of the word innovation by Decaff · · Score: 1

      Of course the commercialization of a product is an innovation.

      No. Innovation means doing something for the first time. Commercialization as a process was not done 'for the first time' for GPS. You would probably have to look back thousands of years for commercialization to be an 'innovation'!

    3. Re:Strange use of the word innovation by tgeller · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Every new commercialization has its own challenges, has to be met with new social inventions, and is a new "product" in and of itself. It's not just a matter of "offer it for sale and advertize the hell out of it". It's a process as complicated as programming -- and with an incalculably higher risk.

      By your reasoning, there's no innovation in Linux, because 40 years ago someone wrote Space Wars.

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    4. Re:Strange use of the word innovation by Decaff · · Score: 1

      Every new commercialization has its own challenges, has to be met with new social inventions,

      To say this makes the term 'innovation' to broad as to be meaningless. Every now and then there may be a particularly imaginitive marketing strategy, but to talk so broadly of 'innovation' and 'invention' is to debase the terms, I feel.

      By your reasoning, there's no innovation in Linux, because 40 years ago someone wrote Space Wars.

      Another exaggeration! But to a large extent, I agree. There is a lot of expertise, inventiveness and a huge amount of skill in Linux, but and certainly some innovation, but not that much - it may have been new code, but most of the ideas have been around for a long time.

  109. #1 must be slashdot, right? :) by forgoil · · Score: 1

    I hope there is a poll with the best suggestions, could be fun to see what slashdotters guess :)

  110. HDTV and RFID? by Almond+Paste · · Score: 0

    gg...

  111. Military technology? Meh. by adb · · Score: 1

    OK, the JDAM is clever and everybody wants a GPS in their car, but we're observing right now that urban warfare technology hasn't meaningfully advanced since 1961.

  112. Obviously 1st place innovation by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    Suing everyone around you for money instead of working for it.

    1. Re:Obviously 1st place innovation by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I am not trying to be Funny, goddamnit, I just found the missing step in this:

      1. Start a company
      2. Sue everyone
      3. Profit!

      You, people, don't you see this is the greatest invention ever? It fills in the second step!

    2. Re:Obviously 1st place innovation by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I hear the Underwear Gnomes are going to sue everyone who uses this technique, and the all the slashdotters who make such lists, as unlicensed derivatives of the Underwear Gnome Strategic Plan for Profit

  113. The vibrator is way older than 25 years by dlleigh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A good history can be found in Rachel Maines' paper "Socially Camouflaged Technologies: the Case of the Electromechanical Vibrator" which was published in IEEE Technology and Society Magazine, June 1989, Vol. 8, Issue 2, pages 3-11,23. It can be found here.

    Another interesting article from Wired titled "Love Machines" can be found here.

    1. Re:The vibrator is way older than 25 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An IEEE article on vibrators. I think my brain just exploded.

  114. Email? by cybermage · · Score: 1

    Since no one else seems to have said it yet, I'm going to say Email.

    Sure, it's been around for more than 25 years, but as others have pointed out, that wasn't the criteria.

    Last I checked, it was still the top Internet application.

    If #1 is not an Internet application, then my guess will be microwave burritos.

    1. Re:Email? by Chump1422 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That is a fantastic idea. One small point: it's already on the list. And was mentioned in the summary on the main page. Hooray for reading!

    2. Re:Email? by cybermage · · Score: 1

      Well, clearly I'm an idiot. I read over that list like three times and never saw it. I guess I'l have to go with Microwave Burritos then :)

    3. Re:Email? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm, read agan, Microwave Burritos is on there too...

  115. But of course we know what #1 is. by blair1q · · Score: 1

    It's the ban on gay Marriage.

    (Anyone who says CNN is the "liberal media" never watched it during the Clinton administration.)

  116. The Spork! by oskard · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nuff said.

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      Well I just put a dull serrated edge on one side of the handle of a spork and called it the sporknife. It is truly going to bring us into the next century. They are waiting till the 18th to annouce it becuase my patent was delayed. Behold the sporknife my friend.

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      Imagine you are eating with a friend and each of you have a sporknife. You need to cut a piece of beef. You simply share your sporknives and enjoy. This will bring all of mankind back together. can you feel it? ...world peace ay last.

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    2. Re:The Spork! by Skynyrd · · Score: 1
      Yes, it makes for great clothing.

      http://liberalredneck.org/gallery/Spork/

    3. Re:The Spork! by Gridpoet · · Score: 1

      I perfer the term Foon...you insensitive clod!

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  117. Wow, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you're a consumerist whore!

  118. Chinese cargo ship by dbcad7 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Without which the other 25 would not be possible.

    I think the CNN list is a bit lame, and some of the timings to make it within the 25 years are questionable.

    Also to lump in Flash memory with CD technology is ... well wrong !

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    1. Re:Chinese cargo ship by Lucas+Membrane · · Score: 1

      Certainly the containerized cargo ship has done more to change our world than any of those 'innovations'. But it pre-dates 1980. OTOH, I remember an inventor of airbags who toured the talk-show circuit in the mid-1960's promoting them, so the list is a little off.

    2. Re:Chinese cargo ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I remember an inventor of airbags who toured the talk-show circuit in the mid-1960's promoting them
      Yes, but they didn't start appearing in cars until the patent expired. Can't have an actual inventor making money.
    3. Re:Chinese cargo ship by dbcad7 · · Score: 1
      sorry, bout that. Yes of course I know that these ships predate 1980. I suppose what is more precise is that our "economy" has been innovated.

      Interesting story I heard on BBC radio about a british reporter following a couple of Chinese tourists here in California (where I live)... They had waited till the last few hours of their vacation to buy some souvineers, and left empty handed because guess where all the souvineers were made ?

      I am not chinese bashing by the way, just observing.

      dbcad7

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  119. Amen. by pschmied · · Score: 1

    Thanks Hubert! You and the rest of the NetBSD team rock.

    I'm not sure that NetBSD is the #1 technical innovation in the last 25 years, but it's pretty damn nice.

    I'm happily running NetBSD 2.0 with my Netgear WG311T wireless card, and I was pleasantly surprised at how seemless the whole process was. (Finding the right card was the trick).

    In any case, NetBSD never fails to impress me with its professional polish.

    -Peter

  120. the ipod by dottedlinedesign · · Score: 1

    The iPod really has defined modern society the same way the cell phone has. There is a slight lean toward portable devices on their list and I think that the iPod has been a very important invention.

    That or Google... ...or Windows XP...

  121. Viagra or Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think its a tough call!

  122. Rules of Slasdot: Profit!!!! by xtermin8 · · Score: 1

    #1 Rule of Slashdot -if using a numbered list include #.???? and #+1. Profit!!!!! but seriously: How can PCs be #3 and the internet #1? Because the internet was established, and could exist, with only mainframes and "non-personal type" computers. I think home computers would have become obsolete and replaced with more specialized devices (as many people had predicted) if they did not evolve into useful (although not the only) device for accessing the internet.

  123. Re:#1 will be...WindowsXP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Isn't it obvious? Microsoft's WindowsXP is a breakthrough in security, stability and speed, and is now used on some of the U.S. Navy's ships! Er, maybe that's why we're in such hot water in Iraq...

  124. They are Waiting for #1 by rvarada · · Score: 1

    Or they haven't decided on #1 yet, and are generating enough discussion to come up with a #1 that is not already in this list.

  125. No, it's not "nanotech" by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    "The device that causes an airbag to inflate in a crash is a nanotech device," said David Kirkpatrick, senior editor at Fortune Magazine.

    No, it's not. It's an accelerometer made in an IC fab. That's not atomic-level engineering. Not even close. By IC standards, it's huge.

    The "nanotechnology" label is getting out of hand. It used to apply to concepts for elaborate structures made atom by atom. Now that funding is available, it's used to refer to finely ground particles.

    1. Re:No, it's not "nanotech" by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      Well, atoms are much smaller than nano, so who cares?
      I on my part call everything nanotechnology that has designed features in the nm order of magnitude. And i studied Nanostructur technology.

      People have to get away from the thought that only a molecular assembler is nanotech. YOUR nanotechnology label is the one that is getting out of hand.

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    2. Re:No, it's not "nanotech" by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I agree, the only people that still use the nanotech label to refer to atomic assemblers are sci-fi geeks. Everyone else uses it to refer to nanoscale engineering.

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    3. Re:No, it's not "nanotech" by Dikeman · · Score: 1

      No it's certainly not nanotech but it is MEMS, wich is also on the list and hence the confusion. accelerometers cause airbag deployment, and these are MEMS devices.

  126. #24, hearing aids? by no-karma-no-worries · · Score: 1

    How is that a "non-medically related technological innovation" ???

    Now, what about affordable roadsters? My Miata certainly has a "direct and perceptible impact on my everyday live" :-)

  127. The list sucks by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some of their choices were obvious. Others were poor. Here are my complaints:

    10) RFID tags. Given that RFID is still mostly smoke and mirrors, is it reasonable to call it a major innovation of the past 25 years? Maybe 10 years from now we'll think so, but it doesn't belong on this year's list.

    11) MEMS. What? No! VLSI is vastly more important than MEMS, and it didn't even make the list. Besides, MEMS is little more than a pit stop on the road to nanotech.

    19) HDTV. HDTV is not a top innovation of any year, let alone a top innovation of the past 25. It was a committee-designed system haphazardly thrown together that has yet to make any meaningful impact on everyday life.

    21) Nanotech. Nanotech will be an amazing innovation if it ever gets here, but is it fair to call something that's still mostly science fiction a top innovation of the past 25 years?

    24) Modern hearing aids. Yes, they're better, but its evolutionary not revolutionary.

    25) Short Range, High Frequency Radio. Uh yeah. This is not an innovation. Its a category of innovations like digital radio, spread spectrum, 802.11 and cordless phones.

    And of course, #1 will be the World Wide Web. Since they've seperated email from the Internet, they'll seperate that as well.

    But, having split out the Internet into its components the panel has failed badly in missing TCP/IP v4 from 1981, clearly a critical innovation of the past 25 years. Vastly more important than HDTV.

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  128. Everyday, eh? by DxM02r · · Score: 1

    Ummm....pr0n on .mpg?

  129. Has to be the Microwave by Kamran · · Score: 1

    Millions of people use microwaves everyday when preparing food. Makes life much easier.

    1. Re:Has to be the Microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microwave ovens are much older than most people think. The first one (a massive thing called a "RADAR range" was produced by Raytheon in the late 1940s; the first domestic model was made by Tappan in 1952.

  130. Microwave oven ... by CdXiminez · · Score: 1

    ... is number one.
    My supper is being cooked right now. I'm a single, living-by-myself slashdot reader. I wouldn't be able to feed myself if it wasn't for the microwave.
    Food beats the internet any day.

    1. Re:Microwave oven ... by simetra · · Score: 1
      No.


      I distinctly remember my parents buying our first microwave in the mid-70's.


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  131. # 1. Slashdot.org - Of Course! by xtermin8 · · Score: 1

    CowboyNeal, we can blame, er, credit! you with for doing so much for society. Thank You! sniff, sniff :...{

  132. Some errors IMO by Graemee · · Score: 4, Informative

    The shuttle, wasn't that designed and built in the 70's?

    The PC is a product of the late 70's too. The Apple II, Atari and Commodore PET all were released in 78-79.

    So # 3 & 20 are 70's

    Air bags date to the 60's but is the footdragging by and reluctance of goverments to make the car makers use them innovation? NO

    Strike number 13 too.

    So it down to 22.

    1. Re:Some errors IMO by hemp · · Score: 1


      Airbags were first installed on a sub fleet of 1973 Chevrolet Impalas...32 years ago.

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    2. Re:Some errors IMO by martian265 · · Score: 1

      I think they are referring to when things became available. The space shuttle was designed and built during the 70s, but didn't get launched into space until April 12, 1981 http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/archives/sts-1 /index.html

  133. Not Quite sure by behindspace · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what the #1 will be, althought according to CNN's website, if we all watch on Jan 18th like listed in the /. article, we'll be 2 days late

    "TOP INNOVATIONS The number one innovation will be announced on Sunday, January 16, at 8 p.m. ET."

    I'm thinking that the top invention will be somethign like Compact Disks or DVD's.

  134. Re:"Personal Computers" do not belong on their lis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I believe you're wrong, the Apple I came out in 1977. This was also more of a technology toy. The first real personal computer that was mass-marketed was the Commodore PET.

    But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of Apple fanboiness, huh?

  135. Re:#1 will be...whatever it is that makes by alfredo · · Score: 1

    Donald Trump's hair do what it does.

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  136. Obvious Answer by ath0mic · · Score: 1

    CNN

  137. The Real #1 Innovation by Luscious868 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fake breasts ....

    Think about it for a minute. Without fake breasts we would never have had Bay Watch. Without Bay Watch, David Hasselhoff would have been a has-been alcoholic actor rather than an alcoholic actor in the twilight of a mediocre career in television. What a crying shame that would have been.

  138. Innovation vs Adoption by rvarada · · Score: 1

    It seems they may be consfusing innovations in the last 25 years with adoption in the last 25 years. For instance ATM was introduced in 1967 and EMail was already used in 1965. But they just started becoming popular among the masses in the last 25 years.

  139. More specific nr will be... by AkaXakA · · Score: 1

    More specific Number 1 will be:

    Slashdot!

  140. The Human Genome Map by genomancer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's used by a much smaller population than cell phones or the internet or viagra.. but it impacts many, many more people, and for those who do use it, the power it brings is hard to overstate.

    G

  141. Sony Walkman by lamz · · Score: 1

    I'm not saying it's the number 1 invention, but the Sony Walkman was a huge deal over much of the last 25 years. Of course, it hasn't been a big deal for the last 5 - 10 years, and these sorts of surveys are always heavily weighted to more recent times. I would rank the Sony Walkman as either equal, or one notch below cell phones. (Or as we used to call them back in the prehistoric Walkman days, "Car Phones.")

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  142. Car Crushing Robot by BinBoy · · Score: 1

    That giant robot that crushes cars at monster truck shows.

  143. Consumer VCRs and porn by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

    Few devices have has as far-reaching social consequences as the affordable VCR -- specifically, by making porn widely available to mainstream America.

    Think about it. Prior to VCRs, if you wanted to watch adult movies, you basically had one option: the XXX movie theater (unless you were incredibly wealthy and had the resources to build your own at your residence). Social stigma effectively ensured that few Americans ever saw a real XXX movie, other than maybe a once-in-a-lifetime trip to a seedy XXX theater in some distant city. Once VCRs became widely available, the adult film industry's entire focus shifted away from actual theaters (do they even EXIST anymore?) to home viewers, and in less than a decade it became normal and acceptable to proudly list production experience (videography, editing, promotion, etc) in adult films on one's resume.

    Make no mistake... it was the VCR that gave birth to the entire adult video industry as we know it today. The internet obviously took it to a new level, but VCRs established adult movies as mass market consumer items.

    Ask yourself: had videotaped porn not emerged 20 years ago, how many average housewives, schoolteachers, accountants, or even presidents of the United States would have the slightest idea what "DV/DA" is? :-D

  144. Re:The Web, not the Internet by graf0z · · Score: 1
    It couldn't be the Internet, since that is obviously older than 25 years.

    According to sources like Wikipedia so are cell phones (#2), personal computers (#3), Memory storage discs (#8) or ATMs (#14) (if ATM=cash machine). CNN probably means "inventions which became popular during the last 25 years, even if they where invented 70 years ago". So it cound very well be "the internet" (developed late 60s), not only "the www" (http + html, early 80s).

    /graf0z.

  145. HDTV and Plasma Screens common place??? by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have to disagree with this statement in the article. HDTV is not yet common place. 90 percent of homes in my neighborhood have regular TV's. I don't see Hotels putting a plasma HDTV in thier room. When hotels start adding HDTV in form of a plasma screen, ONLY THEN will I consider them to be common place.

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    1. Re:HDTV and Plasma Screens common place??? by eabell · · Score: 1

      THEhotel I stayed at had a 42" plasma TV in the living room, and smaller ones in the bedroom and bathroom, on their 'standard' rooms. Don't think they were HDTV, though.

    2. Re:HDTV and Plasma Screens common place??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, stupid: the article does not say that HDTV and plasma screens are "common place" or even "commonplace." They fall under "and/or could dramatically affect our lives in the future."

  146. A Medical Device by peterkickit · · Score: 1

    The implantable defibrillator. Has saved over 80,000 lives so far, after what is now an outpatient surgery. Has been found to be more effective than drugs in patients who are at risk for sudden cardiac death.

  147. One word retort: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See, my big problem with that is there is almost nothing I watch on any of the 'big' networks. IMO, they produce crap content for the masses, but nothing interesting. Who the hell wants to watch "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Fear Factor" in HD?

    "Sports"

  148. Re:The Web, not the Internet by Wesser · · Score: 0

    Well that depends on how you look at it. I remember WebTV commercials used to advertise "The internet on your TV!" when all it was, was a web browser. So according to that analogy, they're the same thing, hence, both #1!!! For real, ask WebTV.

  149. They hype continues by browngb · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's obviously the Segway.

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  150. Here are the Top 10 Software Innovations for 2004 by rgelb1 · · Score: 1
  151. What about the Clapper? Or the Chia Pet? by JimmyBri · · Score: 1

    So many innovations, so little room for #1...

  152. why choose between them...have both :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.igrill.co.uk/
    A lean, mean web-serving machine...

  153. Nah... by tchernobog · · Score: 1

    Would you bet?

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  154. 25 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1980 would be 25 years ago and at least a few of these innovations were around before then. Maybe it should be the most popular technologies in the last 25 years

  155. Organ transplantation? by imaji · · Score: 0

    I have to think it will be something "feel goody", i.e. that extends life itself...and Twinkies are too old to qualify.

  156. Whooops by mvore · · Score: 1

    By my calendar Sunday January 18th is actually on Tuesday January 18th. Or is is Sunday January 16th?

  157. And airbags? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, because having a shotgun blank fired into a plastic bag 18 inches from your face is *sooo* much safer than wearing a seatbelt.

  158. have to pit invention in quotation marks but.... by dan.mongeau · · Score: 1

    The Simpsons!

  159. The urinal by FunnyLookinHat · · Score: 0

    Think about it: What's the one thing every guy should have in his living domain?

  160. Internet Porn by slippy51 · · Score: 1

    Not just the internet.

  161. Viagra? by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

    Is the article by a male or female reporter? This could make a difference.

  162. Re:WWW ....or BARCODE by vettemph · · Score: 1

    I wonder about that one. WWW is kinda just a document type being transmitted on the 30 year old internet. Maybe it's barcode. Barcode seems to run the world right now and is going to be replaced with RFID (#10) someday when society allows.

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  163. not by a chance by Eric604 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Viagra ranks way above the Segway.

  164. and the number one is.. by mihaibu · · Score: 1

    The Remote Control

  165. The Internet by madstork2000 · · Score: 1

    Clearly it MUST be the Internet:

    Granted the Internet itself has been around longer than 25 years, but so has email, fiber optics, cellphones, PCs and others in some form or another. Those older technologies have become important because of the explosive growth and evolution of the Internet in the last 25 years.

    I firmly believe that without the Internet none of these innovations would be where they are now in terms of development and wide spread adoption.

    Anyway here is their top 25, almost everything on this list has benifited from the Interent or the Internet has facilited the development of the innovation:

    2. Cell phone - Not a direct link here, though phones have been offering internet access for years, as well as acted like modems for laptops and portable PCs for even longer. Also as WIFI becomes more ubiquitous, VOIP over the Internet may replace traditional cellphones.

    The electronics that enabled the cellphone to shrink to a small size, and was arguably the driver for their ubiquity, was a benifit of the development going into electronics for the computers and communications infrastructure and by extension the Internet.

    3. Personal computers - When was the last time you sat at a computer without at least Dialup access?

    4. Fiber optics - Used in the physical backbone of the Internet.

    5. E-mail - The original "Killer app" of the Internet.

    6. Commercialized GPS - The logistics industry and other mapping industries have greatly benifited for the ability to track trucks, cargo, people in real time, over the Internet. GPS can stand alone as a useful tool, but combined with such a powerful means to transmit that information quickly, it is clear how important the Internet is to commercial GPS adoption.

    7. Portable computers - Get the Internet where and when you need it.

    8. Memory storage discs - This is an interim benifit, As computers got faster and the internet got better, more information was able to be transferred. So people naturally used the Internet to collect everything, from programs, photos (and now music and movies). As that collection out grew the computer memory disks were need to off load the stuff you got from the Internet. I say it is interim, because eventually broader broadband, and further refined searching (via google) and improved P2P (i.e. bit torrent) will make it so easy (and reliable) to get things of the Internet, that local copies will become less and less important - though they will probably never go away.

    9. Consumer level digital camera - Now that taking pictures is cheap, what do you do with those pictures? Share them! Via email, websites, etc. The Internet has made it easy to get baby pictures to Grandma in Florida. Now we're also seeing Masss market use of the internet, for example you can have 4x5 prints done and waiting for you at Walmart via there web interface.

    10. Radio frequency ID tags - What good would all that info they will collect if it could not easily be transmitted to remote locations? Sure private networks (both local and wide area) will make up a significant portion. But combined with the Internet (and things like GPS tracking) RFIDs have even more value.

    11. MEMS - Also fiber optics grow, mems will be a critical component in new switching quipment.

    12. DNA fingerprinting - Law enforcemnet can share results quickly and easily. Researchers can collaborate much more easily.

    13. Air bags - Ok you got me on this one. Fall back on the Internet improved the logistics and development of the airbag. It has helped engineers co-operate, and helped consumers understand the advantages of having an airbag (with out having to experience it first hand).

    14. ATM - Remote sites talking to a home network, I wonder how that can be done cost effectively? While they may not be on the Internet directly, they certainly make use of the same infrastructure the Internet does, some certainly use VPNs over the internet to get a connection.

    15.

  166. meh by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    The ATM was invented more than 25 years ago, well actually so was the cell phone, but now im just getting picky - do they mean 'when these became widespread and viable'? #1 is obviously the web or internet or whatever they're gonna call it. how you can put that before PCs i don't know? Do we have nano-technology??

    You could just shrink the list and say the most important innovation has been the mass production leading to the reduction of cost the and evolution to miniturisation of all electronic components, making possible affordable personal computers and communication networks.

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  167. Internet wasn't the Internet until the '80s by objekt · · Score: 2, Informative

    In my opnion, it wasn't the real Internet until BITNET became part of the internet. Circa 1986. A quote:

    "BITNET had people in universities all over the world; it had world-wide email; it had real-time, interactive chat, one-to-one or in "Relay" chatrooms in places like CERN; it had world-wide remote file archives you could grab files from by issuing commands; it had world-wide "Listserv" email discussion lists; you could query if people were logged on across the world; it had disconnected "answering machines"; it had email to and from all other networks.

    The whole thing (BITNET plus connected networks) was the embryonic Internet. The protocol has simply migrated to IP since, that's all. If BITNET wasn't the Internet, then neither was Arpanet before it switched to IP in 1983.

    - Condon, Chris; BITNET USERHELP; October, 1990."

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  168. Biggest innovation of the past 25 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing beats the DMCA for the amount of money brought in for the mega corporations.

  169. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  170. FAX. by simetra · · Score: 1
    Yes, the FAX. That's my guess. While most /.'ers were in diapers during the 80's and 90's, those of us who were gainfully employed relied on the fax machine much like people rely on email today.


    That, or WWW. I think the FAX machine should be on the list somewhere anyway.

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  171. Re:#1 will be... War Against Terror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "innovations" minus "no", kill the 't' & rob their $ (oil) -> inva$ions...

  172. Quantum Computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back then there were two kinds of computers: analog and digital. Now we have quantum computers. However I guess Intellectual Property will end up as #1.

  173. The answer is obviously... by Odin_Tiger · · Score: 1

    ...sliced bread.

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  174. Re:RFID ....BARCODE by vettemph · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Barcode is recognized. It's everywhere. Try shopping without it. Alot of crap these days has up to 5 barcodes hidden on around and in it. RFID is trying to replace barcode. Remove the battery from your cell phone and count the number of barcodes hidden underneath. don't forget to count the one on the battery itself. I'm not positive, but i think barcode fits just within the 25 year mark.

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  175. VLSI should be number one but won't be by bitingduck · · Score: 1

    VLSI is vastly more important than MEMS, and it didn't even make the list. Besides, MEMS is little more than a pit stop on the road to nanotech.

    If you go down the list, more than half of the innovations listed wouldn't be possible without the unbelievable progress in microfab due to improvements in materials and processes for VLSI and its spinoffs.

    1) That interweb thingy that they'll list as #1
    2) cell phone
    3) personal computer
    4) commercial gps
    5) portable computer
    6) consumer digital cam
    7) rfid
    8) mems
    9) atm
    10) oleds (might have come about with VLSI infrastructure, but probably much later)
    11) display panels
    12) nanotech (most nanotech is actually microtech, but if you put in "nano" you get more money
    13) flash memory
    14) modern hearing aids

    There are even a few more that are arguable-- storage disks, email, and voicemail.

    1. Re:VLSI should be number one but won't be by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      I guess you could say that VLSI has become such a ubiquitous underpinning of so much of our modern lives that its absence a quarter century ago has fallen out of our conciousness. I probably would have forgotten myself but I maintain and repair early 80's arcade games for a hobby so the difference between how we build electronics now and how we built them then is constantly fresh in my mind.

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  176. From a free society to the Panopticon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *From a free society to the Panopticon
    *The fall of the Soviet Union
    *The death of the family farm, which had been the main way of life since the dawn of civilization.
    *GPS

  177. 24 Hour Cable News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Number 1 will be 24 hour cable news.

  178. The Integrated Circuit by adolfojp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I will bet my left testicle on the Integrated Circuit. Without it there would be no internet, personal computers, calculators, modern home appliances, cell phones, satelite comunications...

    Cheers,
    Adolfo

    1. Re:The Integrated Circuit by michaelggreer · · Score: 1

      But that was invented long before 1980.

    2. Re:The Integrated Circuit by Transcendent · · Score: 1

      An IC?? Have you seen how non-complex the list is? HDTV? Cell phones?

      C'mon... although the IC SHOULD be on the list instead of the other crap (since cell phones, plasma displays, etc rely on ICs), I doubt it even crossed their minds.

    3. Re:The Integrated Circuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > > I will bet my left testicle on the Integrated Circuit. Without it there would be no internet, personal computers, calculators, modern home appliances, cell phones, satelite comunications...
      >
      > But that was invented long before 1980.

      Thankfully, nobody has any use for the original poster's left nut.

      To the original poster: So... are you relieved or disappointed? :)

  179. Got to be the PC. by Lost+Penguin · · Score: 1

    How else would we get CNN, Spam, porn, surveys, Windows exploits and other goodies?

    Besides, No PC; No Linux <g>

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    1. Re:Got to be the PC. by the_bahua · · Score: 1

      Wow. RTFA, man.

  180. It should be the microwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Seriously. There's nothing that has changed people's habits on cooking, eating, and how they purchase foods than the microwave. It is absolutely ubiquitous and essential in today's life.

    1. Re:It should be the microwave by grammar+nazi · · Score: 1

      I agree, but consumer microwaves were around prior to 1980. I think it's the WWW.

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  181. Entire (legal) music collection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My entire music collection is contained on eDonkey, etc.

    My entire legal collection could fit on a single iPod along with 10,000 other songs.

  182. Not really high tech by poweroff · · Score: 1

    But I would vote for the Camelbak

  183. Dates? by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 1

    CNN won't release the #1 innovation until Sunday, January 18 at 8pm EST (Monday, Jan 19 @ 1AM GMT),

    Umm, Jan. 18 is a Tuesday, Jan. 19 is a Wednesday. In 2005, that is.

  184. GNU GPL FSF LINUX WTF? by Sprite+Remix · · Score: 0

    Am I being a smartass or do I have to ask "Why hasn't any smartass said any of those words, explained the whole history behind it, and most importantly mention 'free speech not beer' at least THRICE in the same paragraph for the sake of better karma"?

  185. Sony Walkman by xigxag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...came out in 1980, not-so-coincidentally 25 years ago. So it's probably #1.

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  186. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Answer me this.. Would you take this call?

  187. google says... by SilentT · · Score: 1

    I googled #1 Innovation of the Past 25 Years, hit I'm Feeling Lucky, and discovered that the #1 innovation is... wood flooring.

    1. Re:google says... by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      You should try this search:
      #1 innovation shit of the Past 25 Years
      Look at this choice quote, from George H.W. Bush and Brent Scowcroft, A World Transformed (1998),pp. 489-90: :
      Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.
      Guess the kid should have listened to his old man.
  188. CNN.com by introvertSoul · · Score: 1

    Is there any better? :-)

  189. Re:The Web, not the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It couldn't be the Internet, since that is obviously older than 25 years.

    They included email, and that's older than 25 years. I guess they are using the "average person has heard of it" rule to decide when something was invented.

  190. Bogus list (where are medical technologies?) by t482 · · Score: 1

    Scanning the list - the majority of the items were available before 1980 - in which case the it should be really called the best "mass market technological products".

    Some are products "HDTV", which are improvements of what came before, and others are categories of research "Nanotechnology".

    What about anti-cancer, HIV treatments, Fertilization, gene therapy?

    1. Re:Bogus list (where are medical technologies?) by jlapier · · Score: 1

      RTFA:

      In creating the list, the group hoped to single out "25 non-medically related technological innovations that have become widely used since 1980

  191. Two things they missed by daegol · · Score: 1

    1. Pay at the pump. Who actually goes into the gas station to pay for their gas?

    2. That magical first down line they draw during the football games.

    These are real innovations. Who gives a shit about things like RFID, and HDTV?

    1. Re:Two things they missed by kingjam · · Score: 1

      everyone keeps forgetting 4-ply toilet paper... even 3-ply should rate a mention - you'll realise i'm right on your next stall occupation of an international airport.

    2. Re:Two things they missed by ArtStone · · Score: 1

      People in New Jersey not only can't pay at the pump, they can't pump.

      It is illegal to run a self-service gas station in New Jersey. All gas stations are full service. Curiously, the prices in New Jersey are generally lower than the rest of the New York City area.

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  192. Re:The Web, not the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not only "the www" (http + html, early 80s).

    HTTP and HTML are the early 90s, not 80s. In any case, 'the WWW' is supposed to include things like FTP and Usenet, according to the person who coined the term, Tim Berners-Lee. Basically, anything that is addressable by a URI is part of the WWW, it doesn't have to be part of a website.

  193. Lots Missing by Lucas+Membrane · · Score: 1
    Wonder why they excluded medical innovations? Improvements in surgery -- heart, eye, and the kinds they do without cutting you open are bigger than the things on the list. But, outside of medicine, we have these innovations:

    Reagan's Star Wars, which we will be paying for forever.

    Bush & Rice's Missile Defense, which we will be paying for forever.

    Al Gore's Global Disaster Information Network, which save 75,000 lives during the Christmas tsunami, except it didn't because the Republican Congress in 1998 wouldn't consider funding anything that came from Gore.

    Miniature spare tires and

    Car jacks that let you jack your car up but not down.

    Cupholders

    600-Watt stereos for cars

    Cars where you open the hood and you can't figure out WTH anything does

    Stereos where you open them up and you can't figure out WTH anything does

    The Swiss Army Knife

    Those impenetrable plastic packages that make it impossible to use anything that you buy unless you carry a Swiss Army knife.

    Improved technology for growing marijuana indoors

    Improved technology for finding people who grow marijuana indoors. (This one nets out to a zero with the one preceding, but each produced a big change, albeit in opposite directions.)

    Improved technology (Roundup, satellite recon, and arial spraying) for eliminating cocaine production in Columbia

    Development of Roundup-impervious coca plants, permitting continued cocaine production in Columbia. Same situation as with marijuana above; it's a net zero. But each one individually has a big impact.

    The theory of intelligent design, which now significantly prolongs the careers of thousands of brain-dead politicians.

    Printer ink cartridges that are smart enough to refuse to print any more when the manufacturer needs more money. This has made possible very inexpensive printers.

    Chemtrails

    Tinfoil hats

  194. My Suggestion by wernercd · · Score: 1

    After reading the first half of all the posts I'm surprised someone has mentioned...

    *Drum Roll*

    Viagra!!!

    The Gift that keeps on giving.

    I think it's more important than all the 'pr0n' recomendations... I mean... what good is that without the ability to keep the motor running?

    just my 2c

  195. Re:Here are the Top 10 Software Innovations for 20 by klang · · Score: 1

    #1 software innovation - Mozilla Firefox - Find as you type.

    Jesus Harold Christ! I mean, progressive search has been a part of emacs forever! Granted, you have to press C-s to activate it but it's the same thing .. I keep pressing C-s in FireFox, so yes, it feels natural, I'll give them that. But it isn't excatly "innovation", is it?

  196. Re:#1 *should* be... by anactofgod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO).

    Or, perhaps, a related technology like gene therapy.

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  197. We can all thank Al Gore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all he took the initiative to invent/create the Damn thing.

  198. Re:Military technology? Meh. by no+soup+for+you · · Score: 1
    OK, the JDAM is clever and everybody wants a GPS in their car, but we're observing right now that urban warfare technology hasn't meaningfully advanced since 1961.

    While I would probably disagree that urban warfare hasn't advanced since the pre-Vietnam era, He didn't limit it to urban warfare technology. In my opinion advances in sonar, deep sea diving, space exploration, radar tracking, and many others are all advancements that filter down to commercial applications.

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  199. Oh GOD!!! Can I take it back??? by adolfojp · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just realized now that the article said last 25 years !!! Oh well, there goes 1/3 of my manhood.

    Cheers,
    Adolfo

    1. Re:Oh GOD!!! Can I take it back??? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      no.
      And we will be sending you a jar and a knife.
      Think of it as an open sourse removal project.

      Heh 1/3 of your manhood. That's funny.

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    2. Re:Oh GOD!!! Can I take it back??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's OK. Just tell us you meant modern SMT packaging which IS in the time scale and I arguably much more relevant to the modern consumer than, say, RFID.

    3. Re:Oh GOD!!! Can I take it back??? by evilviper · · Score: 1
      there goes 1/3 of my manhood.

      But on the plus side, you can now say "I'll bet my left testicle" with impunity... If you're wrong, there's nothing there for anyone to take.
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  200. Scratch #24 as well..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .....unless there are non-medical uses for hearing aids that I'm unaware of.

  201. May be a bit older than 25 years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It may be an older invention, but I would like to suggest the Calendar.

    January 18 falls on Tuesday, not Sunday.

  202. Which Americans ? by mikewhittaker · · Score: 1
    ... are readily recognizable by most Americans ...

    But they don't specify North or South Americans - presume they must mean both continents, which could affect the choices ;-)

  203. The Clipboard by gilgongo · · Score: 1

    No, really - the clipboard.

    My use of computers has always involved the clipboard. I'm not old enough to have done a significant amount of work on machines that didn't have it in some form but it's always struck me as intriguing because it's the only part of most WIMP interfaces that gets heavily used yet doesn't feed back at all. It's invisible, and using it is more like using a *NIX CLUI, where commands only feed back when something goes wrong. That's the first thing I like about it.

    When I use the clipboard a special part of my brain kicks in and starts working with the system. When I hit CTRL+C I remember not only the fact that there is something in the clipboard, but that it's relevant to the task I'm performing. Once that task has finished, or my use of the UI moves to something else, my mind marks the clipboard as "stale." Sometimes I suddenly recall that the thing I've currently got in the clipboard will help me. That same part of my mind marks it as "fresh" even if I didn't predict that it would when I made the clip. This is real "usability verses learnability" territory. But there's more.

    That we owe a huge debt to the clipboard is apparent when you consider that just about all major content management projects depend on it. Despite the marketing mumbo about automating imports from "legacy formats," at some point in such projects a team of people will sit down with content in one format and copy/paste all or part of it into the format desired by the new CMS. I've been involved in too many CMS builds to think this doesn't happen. That it is usually cheaper to use a team of copy/paste monkeys than to design and test a transformation and load routine means that the practice isn't going to die out very soon. By that indication alone, the clipboard is probably the single most important piece of software for our "information age."

    But there are problems. The clipboard would be top of my list of perfect OS utilities along with drag-and-drop and ALT+TAB. If only it wasn't for one thing: text formatting inheritance.

    Perhaps my acute sensitivity to the utility of the clipboard has made me hyper-sensitive to the abomnible pain in the arse that is text formatting inheritance. Take a common example. I have a Word document in which there is a paragraph I want to copy to a PowerPoint slide I am writing. My Word document's text is in Arial Bold 12-point. I want to paste it into my PPT, which just happens to be using Futura Light 18-point at the point I want to insert the text. So I copy the text to the clipboard from Word, and paste it in. Only it goes in AS ARIAL BOLD 12-POINT.

    Who in their right mind would want this to happen by default? Not only can you not turn this behaviours off in most applications, but there's not even a keystroke for "paste special" either. If you copy from a web browser into Word or another MS app, it'll attempt to paste it in as some godforsaken HTML table! Why? What's the point? I find myself then having to seek out "paste special" on the menu bar (no keystroke, remember) or using the formatting clone tool or something. So that's suddenly about five mouse gestures when it could have been two keystrokes. And it's not just limited to MS applications either. It happens to varying degrees with others as well.

    How can this be a good idea? What have we done to deserve such as carbuncle on the otherwise perfect face of the clipboard? It's as if somebody (well, Microsoft mostly) have it in for the thing. The difficulties with text formatting inheritance is compounded by the strange and inexplicable existence of the "multiple clipboard" in, of all applications, Outlook (and some others I've encountered). You can't tell me they got that out of user testing: "You know, I've often wished I had the ability to put lots of things in my clipboard, but I'm not interested in being able to tell the difference between each clip - just give me an application icon for each. Oh, and when its full, ask me a difficult question about what to do so as to utterly break my concentration. And I don't want the ability to turn this behaviour off either."

    Hmmm. Maybe I'll update that Wikipeodia entry later...

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    1. Re:The Clipboard by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      thank goodness you didn't say "clippy", the worst invention the past 25 years.

    2. Re:The Clipboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You quite possibly have more free time than any human I have ever encountered.

      I agree, the multiple-pane clipboard is a disaster. Whoever designed it that way has no clue about how office applications are used. I have of course written a MSOffice macro to paste special plain text... I use CTRL-D because whatever was there first is useless (to me) and I like to think of it as "paste with Destination format".

  204. VCR by mrm677 · · Score: 1

    How about the consumer video recorder (VHS or Betamax...take you pick)? Never before could the consumer time shift television shows.

  205. Obvious, really! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    # 1 = /.

  206. THIS JUST IN! by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 0, Troll
    CNN run by lobotomized monkeys!

    Details at eleven! (Do not feed the anchor.)


    -FL

  207. Conspiracy? by igny · · Score: 1

    #2, #3, #7, #8, #9, #15, #16, #18, #19, #22, #24 are consumer electronics. What is it, a hidden advertisement? Makes me wonder who paid for space shuttle, nanotechnology, or DNA fingerprinting to be in this list. Why truely innovative things, like the MRI, Hubble, fuel cells, artificial transplants are not in the list?

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    1. Re:Conspiracy? by zoeith · · Score: 1

      "In creating the list, the group hoped to single out "25 non-medically related technological innovations that have become widely used since 1980, are readily recognizable by most Americans, have had a direct and perceptible impact on our everyday lives, and/or could dramatically affect our lives in the future.""
      Try reading the entire article.

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  208. Just too bad.. by Henk+Poley · · Score: 1

    ..that they were invented much earlier and began to commercialise before the 80s.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit# Hi story
    (Yes, yes, never believe the Wikipedia article, so follow the links and do some other research.)

  209. Looks like we've got a long wait ahead of us by earlgreen · · Score: 1
    CNN won't release the #1 innovation until Sunday, January 18 at 8pm EST (Monday, Jan 19 @ 1AM GMT)

    Let's see, January 18 is on Tuesday this year, so I guess this means we have to wait until 2009 to find out that #1 is the World Wide Web?

  210. Re: Why no analog? by voidstin · · Score: 1

    The whole reason HDTV exists is that broadcasters didn't want to give up their frequency bandwidth. The gov't wanted to take back some of the UHF bandwith and auction it off to the telcos. The broadcasters said "But we need it?". The gov't said "For what?" and they said "Umm..... Hi Definition TV!" The gov't agreed, only if they give back the analog evenutally (suppposedly this year, ha ha).

    HD is nice and all, but was anyone clamoring for better looking TV back in the 80s? Could the gov't have used the few billion in spectrum auctions in a better way?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Definition_TV# Un ited_States

  211. Military vs. military-spinoff by adb · · Score: 1

    The article cites GPS, and I have no doubt they're going to cite the Internet. The original comment was talking about military technology as a category that was excluded, which wouldn't make sense unless they meant stuff that is still mainly military.

    As far as warfare goes: control (as opposed to mere genocide, which is so easy it's routine) requires controlling cities. Controlling cities appears to be impossible anymore if the other side has RPGs and AK-47s and local support, no matter how studly your tanks are.

    Whizzy technology is great for winning big flashy battles, but so what? The US and Russia still lost Vietnam, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Somalia, and Iraq, and Israel is at a permanent standstill with Palestine, and never mind their tremendous technological advantages.

  212. Some good link by BlackShirt · · Score: 1

    Good stuff. Thanks.

  213. #1 by cr380r · · Score: 1

    I've seen a lot of good calls so far. Namely the I-Pod and Search Engines. I would probably guess that wireless networking is what will take the cake. I-pod really belongs under the portable computer section. Search engines could be it, but searching in one form or another was a more natural/necessary progression. Wireless networking is truly an innovation.

  214. they should do an interview with Al Gore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    since he invented most of the items on the list.

  215. Microbrew pubs...I mean High Intensity LEDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2 major things since 1980.

    Microbreweries and those
    Super efficient High Intensity LEDs that use only 10% of what incandescent uses(and they come in White these days)

  216. Bread... by Eternal+Annoyance · · Score: 1

    That is, automatically sliced bread.

  217. I got it... by regcrusher · · Score: 0

    the infrared remote control. What has impacted our daily lives more than that? I cringe at the thought of pressing a button on my actual TV.

  218. Barcodes by Sarin · · Score: 1

    They're not on the list and you see them carrying mysteriously hidden information everywhere: on products in shops, but also on concert tickets, train cards, suitcases and ups packages.

  219. #1 - Cheap Chinese Labor by wsanders · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our, uh, new overlords.... now, where is that "learn Chinese in 49 days book ..."

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  220. ooo, ooo, Mr. Cah-tah, but what about by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    the 80186! I mean, the Z8000! no, the DEC Alpha! Wait, no, no, it's the Itanium!

  221. Dupe by MoreDruid · · Score: 1

    So does that mean we're gonna get another dupe in a few days?

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  222. Fox News has a similar list by a9bejo · · Score: 0, Troll
  223. Satellite Television - what else by newandyh-r · · Score: 1
    An obvious one for CNN.

    Couldn't be communications satellites as they are more than 25 years old (even in reality, not just Arthur C. Clarke's article in Wireless World - that is more than 50 years ago). Remember Telstar?

  224. #1 by kurfu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Praised and adored by lonely and dateless geeks everywhere, the "Real Doll" was voted to be the most important invention of the last 25 years.

  225. The segway.... by duckpoopy · · Score: 1

    Biggest flop maybe.

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  226. Why not space elevators? by Hal+XP · · Score: 1

    Since the list contains a number of innovations that I don't see lying around or cavorting in my apartment like the space shuttle (No. 25), plasma TV (No. 18) and my personal nanobot floor cleaner (No. 21), the technology experts consulted by CNN should have included even more gee-whiz conceptware such as space elevators (demonstrated to be plausible by the inventor of the communication satellite), air-breathing rockets and Matrix-style (jack me in, Scotty) virtual reality? Hmm, why is virtual reality -- even in its tepid VR glasses form -- not in the list? My choice for No. 1 is a toss-up between the AIBO and the Honda robot.

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  227. number 1? by MoreDruid · · Score: 1
    number 1? I don't know, but I can think of a few technologies
    • cd/dvd
    • DRM (hey, this is CNN, famous for their Real clips)
    • (F)OSS... yes, a long shot, but why not? Millions use it daily
    • the answer to step 2 (sorry, couldn't resist)
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  228. microwave ovens by RussP · · Score: 1

    Just imagine trying to live withough them.

    But it will probably be the Internet.

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  229. #1 is multi-angle DVDs!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I can watch my porn in different angles! Woohooo!!!

  230. #1 is obvious to any /. geek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is better than Jolt!

  231. In order by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #2 Cell phones
    #3 PCs
    #4 Fiber Optics
    #5 Email
    #6 GPS
    #7 Laptops
    #8 CDs
    #9 Digital Cameras
    #10 RFID (radio frequency id tags)
    #11 MEMS (microelectromechanical system)
    #12 DNA fingerprinting
    #13 Airbags
    #14 ATM
    #15 Lithium-ion batteries
    #16 Hybrid cars
    #17 Organic light-emitting diodes
    #18 Plasma Screen TVs
    #19 HDTV
    #20 Space Shuttle
    #21 Nanotechnology
    #22 Flash memory
    #23 Voicemail
    #24 Modern hearing aids
    #25 High Frequency Radio (WIFI)

    1. Re:In order by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod parent up!!

  232. "(Innovation is) an idea .. by Uosdwis · · Score: 1

    "(Innovation is) an idea, practice, or object that is perceived as new by an individual or other unit of adoption." - Everett M. Rogers, 1995

    I had written a harsh retort to this trite list before I stopped to think what the article meant by innovation. Certainly half this is list not new, but new to the masses and not just the elite few. Because that is what innovation is in a capitalist economy is not it's invention but how to bring it to market for the masses. Also, I doubt OLEDs, MEMs, RFID and Memory storage discs are readily recognizable unless you tell people how they are used. (TV/displays, Air Bags, Gov't conspiracies and CD/DVDs)

    The space shuttle program was signed into law by Nixon, but wasn't used till the 80's. E-mail has been around since the 60's but not used by everyone until the early 90's. The military has been using GPS since '78 (just missed it) but hikers couldn't get it in a handheld till the mid 90s. etc etc ..

    Just another "look how clever we are compared to the rest of history" feel good piece.

  233. top 25 products? by recharged95 · · Score: 1
    What the difference between the personal computer and the portable computer. How about email--you NEED a computer. Doesn't a hybrid car contain storage devices, computers, LCDs, etc..?

    Innovations I think not. CNN again misunderstands the concept of innovations, or really, are they trying to sell something (typical of corporate media)?. I felt like I just read a Fox News article. This list is really the top 25 [electronic] consumer products in the last 20-odd years, only 2-3 (fiber, MEMs, DNA) of them are really innovations.

    Top innovation? Object oriented programming. Duh.

    Then again we are the consumer society.

    1. Re:top 25 products? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OO is however rather older than 25 - it dates back to 1967 (Simula-67).

  234. Gee by mikeg22 · · Score: 1

    I wonder if its the internet (which CNN could also call the WWW)?

  235. #1 will be... by Big+Nothing · · Score: 1

    V1A%GRA

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  236. Hello CNN?? by FriedTurkey · · Score: 1

    It is CNN. Obviously it is going to be cable TV.

  237. Guess for #1 Innovation by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

    My guess for for the #1 innovation in the past 25 years is so-called "Reaganomics" (really just economics as understood since at least the 18th century). Sorry Slashdot, it won't be you.

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  238. Oleds? by Cow007 · · Score: 1

    "And digital cameras would not exist without flash memory (No. 22) and OLEDs (organic light-emitting diodes, No. 17)." Digital cameras with OLEDs aren't even commercially available yet so how could they be an integral part of digital cameras? Sure there is one to be released but from what he is saying suggests that without OLED's that digital cameras woulden't exist.

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  239. The #1 innovation according to CNN... by Big+Nothing · · Score: 1

    ...will be the Cable News Network, I presume.

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  240. Those are older than 25 years by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 1

    OK, I didn't read the article yet, but how can they claim PCs and email were innovations from the past 25 years? That only goes back to 1980, and both PCs and email were around years before then. In email's case, long before then. Re-writing history, are we? Or does it only count as a PC when IBM came out with their version? That would ignore the Commodore, Tandy, Apple, and others. All were PCs, in the sense that they were Personal Computers.

    1. Re:Those are older than 25 years by MacWiz · · Score: 1

      Ah, but they weren't called personal computers until IBM released one with that name in the 80s.

  241. Re: #1 Will Be Pay-at-the-Pump Gasoline by DanLies · · Score: 1

    It may not be the most cutting edge, but I bless the inventor of the gas pump that takes ATM/credit cards. I won't go to stations without them.

  242. Internet pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read teh subject.

  243. LiPo-batteries. by wilhelm9 · · Score: 1

    From my limited perspective of life, Litium-Polymer batteries is an extraordinary invention that is currently starting to be used in more expensive appliances, but as time progresses will bring entirely new levels of performance from battery powered equipment of any kind.

  244. Post-Its by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who could live without Post-Its(tm)?!!

  245. Re:#1 *should* be... by jayratch · · Score: 1

    The description at the beginning of the article specifies "25 non-medically related technological innovations that have become widely used since 1980". As far as I know gene therapy is distinctly medical.
    While GM in general may not be, it has been in use in agriculture (where it has most substantially advanced) since the dawn of human society, so I'd hardly call it an innovation of the past 25 years.

  246. DVD/VCR or Microwave? by displague · · Score: 1

    I can't say that I know when these items first hit it big, but they are definately a part of modern life and they were certainly innovative at the time.

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    1. Re:DVD/VCR or Microwave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VCRs date from around 1972 (Philips model 1500). VHS appeared in 1977.

      As to microwave cookers, they were first produced in the late 1940s (Raytheon RADAR range).

  247. #1 by Pean · · Score: 1

    The Byte

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  248. the New nanotach meaning by geekoid · · Score: 1

    "Smaller then me."

    actually this keyboard is made up of atoms, therefore it's nanotech.

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  249. Re:#1 *should* be... by geekoid · · Score: 1

    or Gene Simons.

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  250. no by geekoid · · Score: 1

    systems were being connected in the 70s. It was not the internet.
    To call it the internet would be like calling my Lan the internet. OR like calling the foundation to my house my home.
    The internet as we know it wouldn't exist without tdp/ip* It's like calling the first wheel a car.

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  251. Duh by smagruder · · Score: 1

    I WWWonder WWWhat it WWWill be.

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  252. maybe not by geekoid · · Score: 1

    ADvertising would be a lot more difficult, as would selling a product. thus less people on the net.
    Fewer ways to get someons email address. less spam.
    People who say shit for the sole purpose of gaing attention would be less.

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  253. Re:Lots Missing PFHT by saskboy · · Score: 1

    I'm betting on the Pet Foil Hat Technology. After all, CNN featured it on their Headline News channel in October of 2003.

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  254. Pic of cell phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you take a look at the cell phone, it says calling... internet. case closed.

  255. Karma whoring... by runamok1 · · Score: 1

    Slashdot maybe? ;-)

  256. My suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't believe all of these are worthy of being considered #1 but they all should have been on the the list:

    Internet (TCP/IP). Unquestionably #1. Almost everything else on the list depends on this 85 page agreement.

    World Wide Web/HTTP. Comparable to the invention of the printing press in historical importance. Not #1 only because it is up against TCP/IP.

    Anti-lock Brakes. Aside from saving lives and money, this is a huge step towards the acceptance of drive-by-wire and fully automated driving.

    The Mars Rovers. Not so much for what they are but for what they have accomplished. Proof of concept that unmanned, self-propelled robots are the way to go for most current extraplanetary needs.
    Prediction: The MD robots will successfully fix the Hubble and go on to a long and underappreciated career as an orbital version of the AAA.

    One suggested sub:

    #8 Commercial Optical Media (memory storage disks have been around a while)

  257. Re:#1 *should* be... by Dr.+GeneMachine · · Score: 1

    Interesting point, but be careful not to overrate this. GMOs pose a really big opportunity - but their potential is only rudimentarily tapped. I would have chosen the method of gene manipulation as such - the technique itself is the big concept, its applications are somewhat lacking up to now. Especially if you look at gene therapy, which simply does not work at the moment.

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  258. Missing option by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1

    Microsoft windows, you insensitive CLOD!!! oh wait... i thought it was a poll

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  259. Re:The Web, not the Internet by syrinx · · Score: 1

    "the www" (http + html, early 80s).

    I didn't realize 1991 was in the "early 80s".

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  260. voting by blackomegax · · Score: 1

    Rigged voting machines. oh wait. that'd be fox news' pick.

  261. Yes - "not releasing" is so lame ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so very, very, very lame ...

  262. #1: the "floating widget" by 2b · · Score: 1
    I first bought a beer with a "floating widget" in England in 1998 but evidently they had been around for quite some time. I'm not sure how I survived my hollow, meaningless existence before I discovered the subtle but intense pleasures of foamy canned beer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget

  263. the list is stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take issue with the list:

    6. Commercialized GPS
    yes, because anything commercialized automatically makes it a great innovation...now GPS in general, THAT would be an innovation...Why did they specify 'commercialized' GPS? To differentiate it from military GPS?

    9. Consumer level digital camera
    Why is this an innovation? It doesn't bring any great things to consumers. Sure, it's convenient. But it doesn't change the world like the computer and internet (which will be #1) have done. Plus, why is it innovative when DIGITAL CAMERAS don't even make the list!

    19. HDTV
    Umm...isn't HDTV just TV with more scanlines? Why is this an innovation? I know, I'll innovate right now! How about 10000p instead of the 1080p? WOOHOO I JUST INNOVATED! It wouldn't take a genius to make a higher-scanlines TV, and as we've all just seen, it doesn't take a genius to come up with the idea of higher scanlines.

    1. Re:the list is stupid by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      GPS in general was known for quite longer. Here "commercialized" is opposed to "for military use".
      Digital cameras were known longer than 25 years (but they weren't nearly as useful (and as cheap) as nowadays) so they can't make it to the list. Consumer level cameras practically removed most of inconveniences in making amateur photos. Cost of media, cost and time of development, inability to see what you've just taken, recycle media space, remove unwanted photos... They are vastly more comfortable than analog cameras.
      HDTV: GOAT. If you have a spaceship that runs at 0.6 c , it doesn't take a genius to imagine one that runs at 1.2 c. Actually it takes strictly an idiot to imagine one.
      There are some bad technological limitations, some very difficult to overcome nonlinearities that make "plain" doubling something a real pain in the neck. Why 30" LCD costs more than 2x (or even 4x for 4x bigger surface) than 15" one? Because it requires two times thinner data lines, and while "standard" ones are somewhere near the edge of "signal loss", the new, thinner ones are way beyond the border and they need to be reengineered and designed in completely new way. There's a lot of limitations similar to "light speed", some can be pushed forward, some may be overcome by paralell processing, some just strike and stop you in place for years. I'm no expert in TV manufacturing, but I know there are many hurdles to overcome to make some device to perform 2x better in all domains.

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    2. Re:the list is stupid by Eivind · · Score: 1
      Yeah sure. Except HDTV isn't, as a matter of fact, anywhere near any practical, much less physical, limit. A common computer-monitor is capable of resolutions significantly higher than HDTV.

      Just because you call it "TV" doesn't make it more amazing. What's really the difference between a "monitor" and a "tv" other than that the tv has a tuner anyway ?

    3. Re:the list is stupid by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      1) Screen surface. Find a 40" computer monitor. Computer monitors squeeze a lot on rather small surface.
      2) THE tuner. Wireless live broadcast of data at bandwidth high enough to provide 60FPS in fullscreen of maximum resolution.

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  264. it must be by WhatsNew · · Score: 1

    The IR Remote Control

  265. Unlucky #13. Air bags.. by slashmojo · · Score: 1

    Only time I ever needed them the damn things didn't work.. some innovation that was!

  266. History of HDTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    19) HDTV. HDTV is not a top innovation of any year, let alone a top innovation of the past 25. It was a committee-designed system haphazardly thrown together that has yet to make any meaningful impact on everyday life.

    From an old slashdot post:

    For those interested in a brief history of HDTV, here it is:

    Here's how it went:

    Broadcast Industry asks for bandwidth for HDTV

    • FCC says "OK, we'll set aside bandwidth for HDTV"
    • FCC says "What standards?"
    • Industry says 'No Standards Please' and come up with EIGHTEEN recommended formats for HDTV. I am not shitting you.
    • FCC says "Isn't 18 different standards a bit much?"
    • Industry says "Shut the fuck up FCC, we know what we are doing. The 'market' will handle this!"
    • Consumer Electronics dudes whine "18 formats make every thing cost more, you are fucking us!"
    • FCC says "OK, it's your call on standards, 18 formats is fine, infact there are NO STANDARDS AT ALL, 'cause we are letting the 'market decide', but you start broadcasting HDTV now or we take back the FREE bandwidth."
    • Industry says "What? We really just want the free bandwidth. You really want us to do HDTV??
    • Congress says "Fuck you Industry. Broadcast HDTV or we'll legislate your asses back to Sun-day!"
    • Industry says "We're fucked. 18 formats? Why the hell did we do that? Let's change it."
    • Consumer Electronics dudes say "You ain't changing shit. We are already building the boxes you said you wanted built."
    • FCC says "Yah, ya boneheads we told you 18 was too many, now you gotta live with it."
    • Industry says "Well FCC, will you at least make the cable companies carry the HDTV at no charge?"
    • Cable companies say "Fuck you! You gotta pay! Bwah-ha-ha-ha!"
    • FCC says "Yep, no federal mandated on HDTV must carry, we are letting 'the market' handle that"
    • Industry says "We are so fucked. We are spending 5-10 million per TV station in hardware alone and have 1000 HDTV viewers per city, even in LA!"
    • Consumer at home says "Where is my HDTV? Why does it cost so much? Fuck it, I'm sticking with cable/DirecTV."

    Consumer electronics dudes, broadcast industry, FCC, and congress all cry. Cable companies laugh and make even bigger profits.

  267. stupid list.. by greywire · · Score: 1

    what a stupid list. Sure they got some of the things that should be there (like cell phones, PCs, etc), even still a lot of those things are really just things that got popular in the last 25 years, not invented... almost half that list!

    HDTV? I dont know anybody that has one. Sure hasnt effected the lives of anybody I know. Change this one to TIVO.

    Space Shuttle? A pile of crap! A representation of inovations that result from wasting lots of money on a bad design. Change this to Space Ship One.

    OLEDs? OK yeah they were invented, but havent yet had a real impact... Change this to high-power LEDs, IE laser diodes, blue and white leds, etc.

    My favorit is the idiot at MIT: "Flash memory is a tiny version of the disk drive that's in your computer," said Gene Fitzgerald, MIT professor of material science and engineering"

    What? Flash memory is not even remotely like a disk drive other than that it stores things. I hope he was just misqouted or taken out of context..

    And what's number 1? Gotta be the World Wide Web, right?

    What about the GUI that made computers so usable for everybody?

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    1. Re:stupid list.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GUIs are a 1960s technology that simply became popular in the 1980s. Ivan Sutherland's Sketchpad (1963) had graphical objects that could be maipulated with a light pen. Doug Englbart was another early pioneer, inventing the mouse in 1962, and building a rudimentary GUI for it during that and the next year. By 1967 he had implemented a system called NLS that used his mouse together with an object-based GUI complete with hyperlinked groupware applications and video-conferencing. Interesting, Englbart cites conceptual work done during the 1940s by Vannavar Bush as a notable inspiration. Bush (a scientist and futurist) had envisioned a personal information device called the "memex" that used what we now term hyperlinking technology.

  268. They also put HDTV on the list by cgenman · · Score: 1

    HDTV is also up there. Apparently, the ability to watch television at %50 higher resolution trumps things like desktop publishing / personal printers. 6,000 dollar flat-panel plasma displays are also a great innovation, trumping MP3's in terms of consumer awareness and usage. And while MEMS is a great technology, I did have to google it to know what the heck they were talking about. VCR's didn't make the list, neither did CDs/optical media. e-ticketing. Anti-Lock breaks. They list "display panels," but that's such a broad category that it includes the oscilloscope as well as several of the other things on their list.

    Now, it is arguable that older technologys would be unfairly represented because they have had the largest time to make the biggest impact, but Plasma-screens? That's one of dozens of competing technologies, one with major shortcomings, and whose claim to fame is that it makes a slightly better television watching experience. If anything TIVO deserves that slot.

    In other words, yes, the list is broken. It's CNN. What do you expect, a thorough investigation?

  269. It's... SPAM!!!! by Pan+Sola · · Score: 1

    * non-medically related technological innovations
    check (it's definitly technological, think of all the research that has gone into avoiding anti-spam technology!)

    * that have become widely used since 1980
    check

    * are readily recognizable by most Americans
    check

    * have had a direct and perceptible impact on our everyday lives
    check

    * and/or could dramatically affect our lives in the future
    double check (how else are we going to find p0rn, vi@gra, or r0llex watches?)

    Remember, "TOP" innovation could be evil ones too!

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  270. Just how old is e-mail? by zoeblade · · Score: 1

    ...top 25 innovations of the past 25 years.. e-mail (#5)

    Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't e-mail invented more than 25 years ago?

    Personally I think spreadsheets should be somewhere on that list if we're talking about computer innovations in particular (this being Slashdot and all)...

  271. ATMs and self service gas stations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably not #1, but two of my favorites.

  272. The space shuttle? by Dikeman · · Score: 1

    Apart from possible debate about being an innovation of the last 25 years, (the program started on january 5, 1972, yet the first launch was on april 12, 1981) I would like to argue that it belongs on this list.
    It's on the list because of the fact that it has 'brought to life concepts formerly reserved for science-fiction writers', but if - *if* - that would be true, the space shuttle didn't do that, but Yuri Gagarin did.
    Even more so the space shuttle doesn't follow the criteria set by CNN for this list: 'non-medically related technological innovations that have become widely used since 1980'
    I don't know for you /.ers, but I wouldn't speak of the space shuttle as being widely used.

  273. And the prize goes to... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    Bill Gates, for his contribution to Internet Explorer viruses!

    (APPLAUSE)

  274. Don't you mean... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    The new George Foreman Web Browser - knocks out the FAT from your web-surfing experience!

    Don't you rather mean the Computer Cookery 5000? It lets the Intel Pentium Prescott (TM) do the cooking for you! :)

  275. SLURP! SLURP! SLURP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sound of a "consumerist whore" switching HDTV channels.

  276. ATSC receiver price? by tepples · · Score: 1

    No TV has to be fitted with HDTV receivers, because there is no such thing. There ARE ATSC receivers

    -1 Pedantic. The media and manufacturers label ATSC receivers as "HDTV tuners". So let's return to the point of the argument: With the continued jobless growth of the U.S. economy, how will the lower 30 percent of wage earners, who can't afford cable or satellite TV, afford to purchase an $250 ATSC receiver for their $100 TV?

    1. Re:ATSC receiver price? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the 2010 date doesn't get pushed back, don't you think the price of those will be much less by then? Those things were $1000 five years ago.

    2. Re:ATSC receiver price? by pappy97 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the USDTV receiver, which too is an ATSC receiver, can be found at more and more wal-marts for about $150. This price will surely drop to the $99 price point, especially if the product is needed.

      Nobody will have to buy the receiver you have a link to.

  277. Ginger/Seqway by WindowsTroll · · Score: 1

    Dean Kamen, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet and Bill Gates all can't be wrong.

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  278. the real list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Here it is:

    1. WWW
    2. F-117A
    3. B-2
    4. JDAM
    5. Bradley fighting vehicle
    6. public key encryption
    7. cell phones

    Etc, etc

    And BTW, e-mail is older than 25 years.

  279. Starbucks !!! by iXiXi · · Score: 1

    C'mon !! They are everywhere !!

  280. Three words: Clumping Cat Litter by sapbasisnerd · · Score: 1

    Three words: Clumping Cat Litter

  281. NETgear on NETbsd? by tepples · · Score: 1

    I'm happily running NetBSD 2.0 with my Netgear WG311T wireless card, and I was pleasantly surprised at how seemless the whole process was. (Finding the right card was the trick).

    Yes, it is often a trick to find compatible hardware for a minority OS. There are more Freegear, Opengear, Macgear, Linuxgear, and especially Wingear wireless cards.

  282. Gillette going after Norelco by tepples · · Score: 1

    But, if [Gillette] can bring out a vibrating razor ... I wonder how the [marketing] meeting went? Did the guy hold out a normal razor with his wifes pink passion super bunny duct-taped to the side of it?

    I saw more connection to Norelco's "Lift and Cut" battery-powered rotating-blade razors than to any sex toy.

    1. Re:Gillette going after Norelco by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      I have never heard of Norelco, but I tend to keep clear of tv, so wouldn't usually be captured by many adverts.
      Though after googling, I don't like these electric razors, haven't bothered with one, and am comfortable with a manual blade.
      Me and the missus looked at each other after seeing the Gillette advert one night, and both were a bit freaked out about adding a vibe to a razor.
      It doesn't help that the ladies version is a passion pink "Venus".
      Oh, and [thanks] :)

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  283. Microprocessor by rahard · · Score: 1

    I would say, the #1 is microprocessor.
    but, it's more than 25 years ago.
    hmm ...

    1. Re:Microprocessor by AstroSurf · · Score: 1

      Right on, rahard! Many (or most) of the 24 rely on microprocessors. I was gonna pick it for #1 and I figured someone else would have beat me to it.

      You raise an interesting point though. As does a previous poster striking down other 25+ year items.

      Course, it _could_ be argued that the 20th century was spent just evolving and marketing Tesla innovations.

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  284. too computer centristic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The list is missing innovations from other areas than computer technology. So I miss biology (e.g. genetic engineering) and medicine. Also we made interesting discoveries in social, political and economic science.

  285. #1 Innovation... Reality TV Shows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a bunch of unknown people or C-rate actors together, get them to do unmentionable things for dirt cheap, point some cameras at them, and make billions. Friggin Brilliant!

  286. That's easy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Definitely Auto-Suck!

  287. Web Broadcasting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.ehsports.com/ Basketball Broadcast

  288. Beer Goggles by coreman · · Score: 1

    How else would geeks get laid!

  289. Satellite Broadcasting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If GPS were not mentioned, I would put geostationery satellites at the top. So if high content broadcasting is not in need of mention, I would guess No. 1 is the internet (as seems to be the consensus).

    K.

  290. The Real #1 by Mr.Mysteriosity · · Score: 1

    Of course the #1 Innovation will be CNN.

  291. What about wind-up radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was the favourite once, being useful to the poor in stricken areas as an invaluable informaion source.
    K.

  292. Re:#1 will be... the Web Browser by Paddo_Aus · · Score: 1
    The Web Browser gave the average user the ability to view all that good stuff on the internet in a way that made sense... with graphics and tables and the like in a single document. It was the "Mosiac" idea that was truly revolutionary.

    The Web Browser changed the internet from data to information.

  293. The Transistor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course, that's what's missing!
    K.

  294. Possible #1's by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    They will most certainly say it is the Internet, although the Internet was created more than 25 years ago. They did put "commercialized GPS" on the list, so I imagine that's a clue that they'll say "commercialized DARPAnet"

    Also, the list is supposed to be non-medical, so why are Hearing Aids and DNA Fingerprinting on the list?

    1. Re:Possible #1's by MacWiz · · Score: 1

      1983: Internet Is Defined Officially as Networks Using TCP/IP

      On January 1 the ARPAnet -- and every network attached to the ARPAnet -- officially adopts the TCP/IP networking protocol, developed in the 1970s by pioneering network engineers Vinton Cerf and Bob Kahn.

      History of the Internet

  295. its blogs by forensicmeteoboy · · Score: 0

    c'mon: it's revolutionized the way we think. people now have the power.

  296. NO!! by farmhick · · Score: 1

    Al Gore !NEVER! claimed to have designed a city around the Segway!! Will you people stop saying that!!!

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  297. Duurrr.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MP3s anyone?

  298. #1 is easy... by PiasBrick · · Score: 1

    It'd has to be the yellow line representing the first down marker on televised football games. Anybody who watches sports will agree it is the best sports innovation in the past 20 years!!!!!!!

  299. Easy... by cwspain · · Score: 1

    CNN's choice for greatest innovation will be "24 hour news coverage."

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  300. Outsourcing and Electronic Voting Machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Send all jobs to India/China and claim that it is good for the country.
    Electronic Voting machine to rig the elections. The Bush Sr has done this all over the third world when he was CIA chief. Now He has helped his son to win the election.

  301. Number one is obvious by tedrlord · · Score: 1

    It's going to be the toilet, of course. Technology historians -love- the toilet.

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  302. Re:RFID ....BARCODE by UglyTool · · Score: 1

    According to Wikipedia, the first barcode was on a 10 pack of Wrigley's Juicy Fruit in 1974, although it was deleveloped about 20 years before that. Given some of the other examples in this list, hoewver, I woiuld not be surprised to see them put it on there.

  303. Panty liners with wings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is what my gf would say...if I had one that is...

  304. Peer to peer by kenjib · · Score: 1

    I think when people look back from the future, peer to peer as a generic information distribution methodology rather than just a file sharing system could possibly become worthy of #1, although of course I'm certain that it's not the #1 for CNN right now.

    When considering the implications this model could have applied to industries where it has not yet the potential is interesting. For example, people have been talking about a peer to peer energy grid which allows every consumer to also be a producer which combined with hydrogen cells (why aren't these on the list btw???) could cause lots of microproducers to solve the coming energy crisis. You could change communication networks to peer to peer. You could have automated cars running on peer to peer for traffic handling.

    I think it has the potential to be one of those fundamentally new interdisciplinary ways of approaching all kinds of problems that has a massive impact on the way we live our lives.

    Just like ecommerce wouldn't be where it is today without the porn business pioneering the whole thing, peer to peer born on the back of copyright infringement could become an industry shaker too.

  305. Unusual suggestion by The+OPTiCIAN · · Score: 1

    There's a type of fabric that's been invented recently that breathes but only transfers moisture in a single direction - outwards. I understand police have hailed this as a revolution in law enforcement as they can now walk the beat under pretty much any circumstances. I don't know what it's called, but this is just one area where it's had an effect. I'd think this a lot more significant in the long term than something as vague as "voice mail" which isn't even a technology.

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  306. It didn't say the top 25 GOOD innovations by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1

    While all of the innovations in the article were good innovations (i.e., used mostly for good purposes), I think that bad innovations (innovations used mostly for immoral purposes) should also be considered.
    In that vein, I would say that truck bombs, using passenger planes as cruise missiles, mailing anthrax, and other new methods of terrorism could be considered among the top 25 innovations, if you consider the effects that they have had on our society.
    Look at how much such terrorist acts have changed the world, in terms of making many governments more authoritarian (and some more militarily aggressive), and making average people even more sheep-like, than ever before.

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  307. japanese toilets by hitchhacker · · Score: 1


    Those high tech Japanese Toilets...
    now that is innovation.

    -metric

  308. The Fifth Element Flying Cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fifth Element levitation vehicles will need most of those items. Interesting, how sometimes an invention is preceded by the stuff it needs. It's almost like watching an invention coming backwards. I presently have the system for levitation. It produces an overabundance of upward thrust that will overcome gravity. I'm still trying to figure out How To Get Paid because it's so simple. Once I release it every 5th grader will know how it works. So right now I just have to sit on it, post anonymously as a way to start the idea rolling that it's no longer wishful thinking. I look forward to SlashDot pursuing the money solution for inventors so we can go forward.

  309. Viagra!!! by sunbane · · Score: 1

    #1 has to be the little blue pill! Just ask Bob Dole!

  310. Airbags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saving the lives of people too stupid to wear setbelts since 1980.

    1. Re:Airbags by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1
      Saving the lives of people too stupid to wear setbelts since 1980.


      Are there really people who still don't wear seatbelts? After all, in most places you need to wear a seatbelt if one is fitted to your vehicle, by law. The UK is usually the last to get in on that kind of stuff, and we've had laws requiring seatbelts for over 20 years.

  311. Coupling by booch · · Score: 1

    NBC remade "Coupling" in the US last year. It lasted about 4 episodes. It was OK, but I'm sure they failed to include any of the feel/humor from the original UK series.

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  312. The Microwave by Yeroc · · Score: 1

    My vote would be for the microwave... home-made fast food! I never would have survived without it.

  313. I don't recall... by derfy · · Score: 1

    electing anyone called 'U'.

  314. The calendar is #1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh - maybe it didn't come about in the last 25 years, but unless you're all living in a different year, the 18th is a Tuesday. Who proofreads these things?

  315. The public internet is less than 25 y/o. by JQuick · · Score: 1

    The internet as we know it grew from the arpanet backbone.
    Arpanet officialy adopted TCP/IP in 1982. In 1985 NSFNET was concieved. The National Science Foundation provided funding to extend networking for academic environments as long as all qualified users on campus had access. This was intended to promote its uses outside of the computer science and hard science departments where arpanet access had previously been isolated. Commercial traffic on the backbone was excluded until 1991.

    Prior to 1991 purely commercial enterprises relied on leased lines, or on uucp based networking which provided a hiearchical store and forward architecture for email, file transfer, and remote command execution based on periodic telephone calls among interconnected sets of nodes each of which would typically call or accept calls from only a handful of nodes (a few lower in the tree and typically 1 closer to the root).

    Only after 1991 did companies and individuals have unfettered access to the global TCP/IP backbone.

    Thus, the internet as we know it is less than 25.