Ubuntu: installs fine. apt-get apache. apt-get mysql. apt-get php. httpd is running. mysqld is running. phpinfo() works. but php can't talk to mysql. googling the error message doesn't lead to a fix.
OS X: apache's already there. download & run mysql installer. download & run php installer. bam! everything works.
Yup, you're right, must be me. All hail St. Linus.
I am a third year CS major. This year I have a two semester senior project course in which I can spend two semesters on a project of my choosing. What was your project, and please include a link to the source code. TIA!:-)
I'm running several sites on my Mac Mini. I'm using OS X but it'll run Linux just fine from what I hear. Might not be the fastest thing on the planet but you said 'personal', right? I'm running MySQL, Geeklog, Gallery, and many other things on it and the limit is bandwidth (256k up DSL), not CPU.
It's quiet enough to keep in the bedroom (the nearby TiVo is louder) and it's much faster than the PIII/500 Compaq Deskpro EN SFF that it replaced (that's another low-power box, and those corporate Compaqs last forever) though half the reason I switched was because it's just so much easier to get everything working on OS X.*
Plus, it'll work great with your PB (native file sharing = easy two-way backups) which in turn will be the perfect portable development environment since it's got the same OS. This guy has some really good guides on doing ISP-like stuff under OS X and Marc is your source for all the packages you'll need.
* I've been using Linux since 1998 but every time I put together a box I can never get everything working at once. My last attempt with Fedora resulted in a box with PHP and MySQL, but PHP did not have something it needed to talk to MySQL. Another box had PHP and MySQL but something else didn't want to take, and so on, and so on.
Um, excuse me, Mr. Pedantic Asshole? The reason people get stuck on this is because apostrophe are used for possessives, too. I could "prove" the wrong way is right by saying "You wouldn't say 'I drove to work in Bobs car,' would you?" Using an example like that is stupid. It's not going to help him remember. I've never heard a good mnemonic to remember that--it's just a brute-force thing.
It could go either way. "It's/its" is a DUMB, ARBITRARY RULE, and that's why lots of people fuck it up. We had two words, both could be spelled "it's," both correctly following different rules, and someone decided to change one Just Because. You don't make yourself look smarter by pointing it out. Well, except to the dorks who gave you "+1, Informative" mods. But this is Slashdot, so I wouldn't take that as too big a compliment.:-)
Too late to get modded up, but what the hell. No, Vista will not be the spark that ignites Linux. Win98 was pretty unstable. Did Linux take over then? No. Win ME sucked ass. Did Linux take over then? No. Win2k was pretty nice but wasn't shipped on much consumer hardware. Did Linux take over then? No. WinXP is annoying as fuck, what with balloons popping up everywhere (Take a tour! This is the start menu! Wireless is here! Wireless is gone! Hey, wireless is back! No, wait, gone again!) and all the activation BS, not to mention spyware, viruses, self-spreading bad stuff, etc. Did Linux take over? No. Vista? Well, technically I can't see into the future, but I'm a pretty good guesser.
"Whether it's the lack of a new file system or the Monad scripting shell, the absence of innovation in this operating system is giving it a black eye." One second--you think customers care one fucking bit about innovation in an OS? What planet is this guy on that he thinks people care about a fucking FILESYSTEM or SHELL?!?!?* I'm gonna say this once really loud for the cheap seats: WINDOWS IS POPULAR BECAUSE IT'S THE OS ON THE CHEAPEST COMPUTERS OUT THERE!!!!!!!111oneoneone. The 5% of customers that do care about innovation already have a home: they're at the Apple store.
* note: Windows does ship with a shell. But no one needs it. (Because Windows also ships with a GUI, natch.) Before writing another article like this, do this simple test: walk up to 50 people and ask them about the shell in Windows. - 46 will go "huh?" - 2 will say "cmd.exe but I have no use for it." (You just stumbled across two people who work in IT or a computer store.) - 1 will say "cmd.exe and I use it once in a while because I've been using PCs for 20 years and I still do things there 'cause I'm used to it." - And exactly one will say "cmd.exe but I don't use it 'cause it's teh sux0rz! When I get a new comp the first thing I do is use IE to download Firefox and then I use Firefox to download Cygwin!" (Read that page, it's really funny. I love that story.)
Monad is very cool but even if MS would have shipped it in Vista, did you really think you were going to spend next thanksgiving teaching your mom how to use it? "Look, mom, here--I just pipe this through that, and what makes Monad even cooler than bash is that it isn't just text coming out, these are actual objects, so I can take these results and..." Uh-huh. Right.
God damn, the company is just a few years old. It's like watching a nervous parent with a baby: "OMG he just cried! is he hungry? is he STARVING?!!?" (baby sneezes) "OMG! is he sick? is he DYING?!?!?" Fucking A, give'em a couple years, OK?
Has journalism always been like this? Were there articles 95 years ago asking stupid questions like "Does Ford's lack of a steam vehicle spell the death of this company?"
If anything, the success of MS has shown us that you don't even need smart people and good products to maintain a lead. (No offense to the many bright people at MS.) Even if Google has peaked (which I really, really doubt; I think they're just warming up) they can coast along profitably for decades and if they survive that long, it will have a lot more to do with marketing and general business acumen than whether the quality of their products is improving, declining, or staying the same.
Look around your neighborhood. See all those restaurants? See how some close in 2 years and some stay open for 20? It has little to do with the quality of the food. I'm sure everyone has a restaurant they thought was great that is gone. (Me, I miss Darby Dan's in SSF. Unbelievably good sandwiches.) It has to do with luck, skill, circumstances, and a million other things. As long as the food doesn't make people sick, you've got that base covered. Everything else depends on these other things.
And, even if google has peaked, so fucking what? I think everyone on this board agrees that their search engine alone makes the Internet 100x more useful than it was 5 years ago. And as long as they have enough brainpower to keep pumping out nifty things like google maps, I'm happy.
Where do you live? Seriously. I'll fly out there to watch movies.* I go less than I used to but I still make it out about once a month or so. I can't think of a movie I've gone to in 5 years where I *wasn't* bothered by... - assholes talking on phones. no exaggeration: one guy had his phone ring 15+ times (I started counting after the 3rd or 4th in the first 15 minutes) and he took about ten of the calls! and even when on silent, there's nothing like a white-hot blue glow from 2 rows in front as some douche checks his caller ID. - people who carry on conversations at regular volume - people who constantly ask or answer questions about what's going on - people coming in 20 minutes after the movie starts and leaving 30 minutes later - parents with small kids. I go to mostly loud, violent, action-y movies, or adult (not XXX, but grown-up) serious movies that are rated R. this is no place for a young couple and their 3 kids aged 2-7. *No* movie is a place for a baby. Bring'em if you insist, but sit in an aisle near the door and take them out the *second* they start being noisy, not 30 fucking minutes later like the twat at the last show I saw. (Mr & Mrs Smith, I think.)
And no sense mentioning the solid 20 minutes of ads. I'm an old-school movie-goer and movie previews and the theater's "policy trailer" (as we called them in the theaters where I worked) are fine because they belong there, but an endless array of Coke, movietickets.com, snack, and fucking I'm-an-army-of-one ads? and not even 30-second ads, but hey-it's-a-theater-so-make-it-2-minutes-long ads. I tolerate ads at home on TV because the show is otherwise FREE. fucking greedy assholes.
* I just checked your response to another post. Must be nice in the midwest. Call me if you're ever in Orlando and I'll take you out for a night of hell. I swear I'm not exaggerating.
Good! Great! Higher salaries all around! Make it so expensive to exist in CA that the whole fscking economy implodes and I can afford to move back home!
"I'M SORRY CALIFORNIA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I LEFT!!!!!11one" he said, as he watched his friends' and family's houses appreciate 20% per year for a decade.
Note: If you can't login, try to turn off 'Secure Messaging' or 'Encryption'... etc.
-- TRILLIAN USERS: Someone just told me that they got it working with Trillian, but I can't verify this. Just go to Trillian's plugin page on their site and download the Jabber plug-in, install it, and configure a new connection as below: "server : talk.google.com port : 5222 Use legact SSL for connection : not checked"
How to set it up with GAIM on Windows/Linux, or Adium on the Mac: -- For iChat, just enter the information above. 1. Add an account, select "Jabber" as the protocol. 2. Your screen name is everything before the '@gmail.com'. 3. Server is 'talk.google.com' as listed above. 4. Click "show more options" and make sure "use TLS if available" is checked. Leave "Force old SSL" and "allow plaintext..." unchecked for now. Connection port should be 5222, connection server should be blank... if not just 'talk.google.com' without the quotes. 5. Ta-da! Just login and you should be good-to-go.
Another user reports the following: "weird, I've never sent you email from my gmail, and now that you're on my buddy list on google talk, it autofilled your email address, and alias on my gmail" -- The "/me" command works too, even on iChat. "/me says hi" translates to "smash says hi" or whatever if you're not familiar!
Feel free to IM around with fellow GMail users just by adding their addresses to your list! I'm not sure how long this is going to work, but let's make the best of it.
UPDATE: I'm online right now, give me a hollar if you're able to login! I'm talking with someone I added to my list.:)
Slashdotters, do yourself a favor. Read this article. If this guy can go through all the SHIT he describes and still put "Linux-killer" in the title with a straight face, *anything* is possible. Un, fucking, real.
They claim this to be a Linux-killer, yet they go on to list almost a whole page of installation woes, including trying two different third-party drivers just to get the NIC (an unpopular but "hardly exotic" Linksys piece) to work! Fucking hell, give this guy a Knoppix or Ubuntu disc and he'll shit himself. Linux users haven't often had to struggle like this in years.
Note to the author: if you write a review that says "There are a number of configuration files in/etc that you will have to edit, and even create, to get your NIC to work, once you've got it installed and recognized. If you're comfortable with ifconfig, you'll want to use it. Personally, I find ifconfig to be clunky, and prefer to do the setup manually." I can tell you one thing--it ain't fucking ready!!!!!
The article's premise: Solaris didn't crash *as much* as Linux, so Linux had better look out.
Oh, but he couldn't even detect a NIC without the manual editing of conf files, and wasn't really unique or remarkable in any discernable way.
I liked the way they compared the stability: Solaris didn't have a kernel-level crash once in their admittedly "limited experience." But they've been using Linux long enough to be able to comment on its stability with regard to a series of kernels, and have had a few crashes due to various odd things. Thus, even after admitting they "haven't taken a systematic approach to blowing up our Solaris 10 installations," they go on to declare a winner: "one gets the impression of a pretty bulletproof kernel and shell" in Solaris. Winner by blind assumption: Solaris.
So, if I can get DOS 6.22 up and running for 10 minutes without a crash, will The Reg print my article that claims its stability is comparable Solaris? Seriously--my impression is that DOS is pretty bulletproof, too. Surface-to-air-missile-proof, in fact. Take that, Solaris!
...if you do a search for something on Google and it comes back with a small number of results, and you get to the last page, it often says "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 8 already displayed. If you like, you can _repeat the search with the omitted results included_." So the dupes are there to be had if you want'em.
They haven't, but others have, more or less. That's my personal favorite/etc/hosts file (works on Win, Mac, & Lin) but there are many others to choose from.
Slashdot Mirror
Ubuntu: installs fine. apt-get apache. apt-get mysql. apt-get php. httpd is running. mysqld is running. phpinfo() works. but php can't talk to mysql. googling the error message doesn't lead to a fix.
OS X: apache's already there. download & run mysql installer. download & run php installer. bam! everything works.
Yup, you're right, must be me. All hail St. Linus.
I am a third year CS major. This year I have a two semester senior project course in which I can spend two semesters on a project of my choosing. What was your project, and please include a link to the source code. TIA! :-)
I'm running several sites on my Mac Mini. I'm using OS X but it'll run Linux just fine from what I hear. Might not be the fastest thing on the planet but you said 'personal', right? I'm running MySQL, Geeklog, Gallery, and many other things on it and the limit is bandwidth (256k up DSL), not CPU.
It's quiet enough to keep in the bedroom (the nearby TiVo is louder) and it's much faster than the PIII/500 Compaq Deskpro EN SFF that it replaced (that's another low-power box, and those corporate Compaqs last forever) though half the reason I switched was because it's just so much easier to get everything working on OS X.*
Plus, it'll work great with your PB (native file sharing = easy two-way backups) which in turn will be the perfect portable development environment since it's got the same OS. This guy has some really good guides on doing ISP-like stuff under OS X and Marc is your source for all the packages you'll need.
* I've been using Linux since 1998 but every time I put together a box I can never get everything working at once. My last attempt with Fedora resulted in a box with PHP and MySQL, but PHP did not have something it needed to talk to MySQL. Another box had PHP and MySQL but something else didn't want to take, and so on, and so on.
The bigger question is, why aren't there there cent symbols on computer keyboards? My typewriter had one--above the 6 instead of the ^.
Um, excuse me, Mr. Pedantic Asshole? The reason people get stuck on this is because apostrophe are used for possessives, too. I could "prove" the wrong way is right by saying "You wouldn't say 'I drove to work in Bobs car,' would you?" Using an example like that is stupid. It's not going to help him remember. I've never heard a good mnemonic to remember that--it's just a brute-force thing.
:-)
It could go either way. "It's/its" is a DUMB, ARBITRARY RULE, and that's why lots of people fuck it up. We had two words, both could be spelled "it's," both correctly following different rules, and someone decided to change one Just Because. You don't make yourself look smarter by pointing it out. Well, except to the dorks who gave you "+1, Informative" mods. But this is Slashdot, so I wouldn't take that as too big a compliment.
Too late to get modded up, but what the hell. No, Vista will not be the spark that ignites Linux. Win98 was pretty unstable. Did Linux take over then? No. Win ME sucked ass. Did Linux take over then? No. Win2k was pretty nice but wasn't shipped on much consumer hardware. Did Linux take over then? No. WinXP is annoying as fuck, what with balloons popping up everywhere (Take a tour! This is the start menu! Wireless is here! Wireless is gone! Hey, wireless is back! No, wait, gone again!) and all the activation BS, not to mention spyware, viruses, self-spreading bad stuff, etc. Did Linux take over? No. Vista? Well, technically I can't see into the future, but I'm a pretty good guesser.
"Whether it's the lack of a new file system or the Monad scripting shell, the absence of innovation in this operating system is giving it a black eye." One second--you think customers care one fucking bit about innovation in an OS? What planet is this guy on that he thinks people care about a fucking FILESYSTEM or SHELL?!?!?* I'm gonna say this once really loud for the cheap seats: WINDOWS IS POPULAR BECAUSE IT'S THE OS ON THE CHEAPEST COMPUTERS OUT THERE!!!!!!!111oneoneone. The 5% of customers that do care about innovation already have a home: they're at the Apple store.
* note: Windows does ship with a shell. But no one needs it. (Because Windows also ships with a GUI, natch.) Before writing another article like this, do this simple test: walk up to 50 people and ask them about the shell in Windows.
- 46 will go "huh?"
- 2 will say "cmd.exe but I have no use for it." (You just stumbled across two people who work in IT or a computer store.)
- 1 will say "cmd.exe and I use it once in a while because I've been using PCs for 20 years and I still do things there 'cause I'm used to it."
- And exactly one will say "cmd.exe but I don't use it 'cause it's teh sux0rz! When I get a new comp the first thing I do is use IE to download Firefox and then I use Firefox to download Cygwin!" (Read that page, it's really funny. I love that story.)
Monad is very cool but even if MS would have shipped it in Vista, did you really think you were going to spend next thanksgiving teaching your mom how to use it? "Look, mom, here--I just pipe this through that, and what makes Monad even cooler than bash is that it isn't just text coming out, these are actual objects, so I can take these results and..." Uh-huh. Right.
God damn, the company is just a few years old. It's like watching a nervous parent with a baby: "OMG he just cried! is he hungry? is he STARVING?!!?" (baby sneezes) "OMG! is he sick? is he DYING?!?!?" Fucking A, give'em a couple years, OK?
Has journalism always been like this? Were there articles 95 years ago asking stupid questions like "Does Ford's lack of a steam vehicle spell the death of this company?"
If anything, the success of MS has shown us that you don't even need smart people and good products to maintain a lead. (No offense to the many bright people at MS.) Even if Google has peaked (which I really, really doubt; I think they're just warming up) they can coast along profitably for decades and if they survive that long, it will have a lot more to do with marketing and general business acumen than whether the quality of their products is improving, declining, or staying the same.
Look around your neighborhood. See all those restaurants? See how some close in 2 years and some stay open for 20? It has little to do with the quality of the food. I'm sure everyone has a restaurant they thought was great that is gone. (Me, I miss Darby Dan's in SSF. Unbelievably good sandwiches.) It has to do with luck, skill, circumstances, and a million other things. As long as the food doesn't make people sick, you've got that base covered. Everything else depends on these other things.
And, even if google has peaked, so fucking what? I think everyone on this board agrees that their search engine alone makes the Internet 100x more useful than it was 5 years ago. And as long as they have enough brainpower to keep pumping out nifty things like google maps, I'm happy.
(Note that I say all this as a big fan of Cringely in general. Here's one of many reasons.)
Average Joe doesn't see why they should have to pay to keep their AV software updated. ("I paid $XXX for this machine, and they want more? Heck no.")
Understandable. $30 was a lot of money in ancient Roman times.
Where do you live? Seriously. I'll fly out there to watch movies.* I go less than I used to but I still make it out about once a month or so. I can't think of a movie I've gone to in 5 years where I *wasn't* bothered by...
- assholes talking on phones. no exaggeration: one guy had his phone ring 15+ times (I started counting after the 3rd or 4th in the first 15 minutes) and he took about ten of the calls! and even when on silent, there's nothing like a white-hot blue glow from 2 rows in front as some douche checks his caller ID.
- people who carry on conversations at regular volume
- people who constantly ask or answer questions about what's going on
- people coming in 20 minutes after the movie starts and leaving 30 minutes later
- parents with small kids. I go to mostly loud, violent, action-y movies, or adult (not XXX, but grown-up) serious movies that are rated R. this is no place for a young couple and their 3 kids aged 2-7. *No* movie is a place for a baby. Bring'em if you insist, but sit in an aisle near the door and take them out the *second* they start being noisy, not 30 fucking minutes later like the twat at the last show I saw. (Mr & Mrs Smith, I think.)
And no sense mentioning the solid 20 minutes of ads. I'm an old-school movie-goer and movie previews and the theater's "policy trailer" (as we called them in the theaters where I worked) are fine because they belong there, but an endless array of Coke, movietickets.com, snack, and fucking I'm-an-army-of-one ads? and not even 30-second ads, but hey-it's-a-theater-so-make-it-2-minutes-long ads. I tolerate ads at home on TV because the show is otherwise FREE. fucking greedy assholes.
* I just checked your response to another post. Must be nice in the midwest. Call me if you're ever in Orlando and I'll take you out for a night of hell. I swear I'm not exaggerating.
...so that readers aren't bothered by those nasty changes in text colors.
Actually, the jump from green to grey was a bit startling, but at least this story wasn't posted in IT.
Good! Great! Higher salaries all around! Make it so expensive to exist in CA that the whole fscking economy implodes and I can afford to move back home!
"I'M SORRY CALIFORNIA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I LEFT!!!!!11one" he said, as he watched his friends' and family's houses appreciate 20% per year for a decade.
(Thirty-odd comments and the site is little slow. Just in case...)
:)
I'm on Google Talk right now.
Google Talk = Google's new IM service that they're announcing tomorrow.
All you need is a Jabber-compatible Instant Messaging client (such as Apple's iChat, or GAIM), and a GMail address. Digg this, NOW!
WELCOME SLASHDOT!
Server: talk.google.com
Username: youremail@gmail.com **OR** youremail@talk.google.com (pick one)
Password: yourpassword
Note: If you can't login, try to turn off 'Secure Messaging' or 'Encryption'... etc.
-- TRILLIAN USERS: Someone just told me that they got it working with Trillian, but I can't verify this. Just go to Trillian's plugin page on their site and download the Jabber plug-in, install it, and configure a new connection as below:
"server : talk.google.com
port : 5222
Use legact SSL for connection : not checked"
How to set it up with GAIM on Windows/Linux, or Adium on the Mac:
-- For iChat, just enter the information above.
1. Add an account, select "Jabber" as the protocol.
2. Your screen name is everything before the '@gmail.com'.
3. Server is 'talk.google.com' as listed above.
4. Click "show more options" and make sure "use TLS if available" is checked. Leave "Force old SSL" and "allow plaintext..." unchecked for now. Connection port should be 5222, connection server should be blank... if not just 'talk.google.com' without the quotes.
5. Ta-da! Just login and you should be good-to-go.
Another user reports the following:
"weird, I've never sent you email from my gmail, and now that you're on my buddy list on google talk, it autofilled your email address, and alias on my gmail"
-- The "/me" command works too, even on iChat. "/me says hi" translates to "smash says hi" or whatever if you're not familiar!
Feel free to IM around with fellow GMail users just by adding their addresses to your list! I'm not sure how long this is going to work, but let's make the best of it.
UPDATE: I'm online right now, give me a hollar if you're able to login! I'm talking with someone I added to my list.
Slashdotters, do yourself a favor. Read this article. If this guy can go through all the SHIT he describes and still put "Linux-killer" in the title with a straight face, *anything* is possible. Un, fucking, real.
They claim this to be a Linux-killer, yet they go on to list almost a whole page of installation woes, including trying two different third-party drivers just to get the NIC (an unpopular but "hardly exotic" Linksys piece) to work! Fucking hell, give this guy a Knoppix or Ubuntu disc and he'll shit himself. Linux users haven't often had to struggle like this in years.
/etc that you will have to edit, and even create, to get your NIC to work, once you've got it installed and recognized. If you're comfortable with ifconfig, you'll want to use it. Personally, I find ifconfig to be clunky, and prefer to do the setup manually." I can tell you one thing--it ain't fucking ready!!!!!
Note to the author: if you write a review that says "There are a number of configuration files in
The article's premise: Solaris didn't crash *as much* as Linux, so Linux had better look out.
Oh, but he couldn't even detect a NIC without the manual editing of conf files, and wasn't really unique or remarkable in any discernable way.
I liked the way they compared the stability: Solaris didn't have a kernel-level crash once in their admittedly "limited experience." But they've been using Linux long enough to be able to comment on its stability with regard to a series of kernels, and have had a few crashes due to various odd things. Thus, even after admitting they "haven't taken a systematic approach to blowing up our Solaris 10 installations," they go on to declare a winner: "one gets the impression of a pretty bulletproof kernel and shell" in Solaris. Winner by blind assumption: Solaris.
So, if I can get DOS 6.22 up and running for 10 minutes without a crash, will The Reg print my article that claims its stability is comparable Solaris? Seriously--my impression is that DOS is pretty bulletproof, too. Surface-to-air-missile-proof, in fact. Take that, Solaris!
Just you wait... 2005 will be the year of Solaris on the desktop! :-)
Maybe some time on Jupiter would help? :-)
Internet users are deleting cookies en masse and causing serious problems for advertisers.
/etc/hosts file.
I never touch my cookies. But I'll bet advertisers would be bothered by my use of a custom
...everyone's just testing their newly downloaded copy of IE7 this month. Look for the climb to resume in September. :-)
...if you do a search for something on Google and it comes back with a small number of results, and you get to the last page, it often says "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 8 already displayed. If you like, you can _repeat the search with the omitted results included_." So the dupes are there to be had if you want'em.
Just look at... the fact that the site really hasn't developed at all for years.
Whaddya mean? Haven't you seen the glorious new IT color scheme?
They haven't, but others have, more or less. That's my personal favorite /etc/hosts file (works on Win, Mac, & Lin) but there are many others to choose from.
can be found here.
Which distro posting results in the most 'funny'-moderated comments?
( ) Fedora
( ) Mandrake
( ) Gentoo
( ) Slackware
( ) Debian
( ) Yggdrasil
( ) Lindows
( ) Novell
( ) SCO
( ) Slackware jokes aren't funny, you insensitive clod!
Yup. All these whiners are just hella jealous.