"Yes, but thats what mom and pop has when their disk dies..."
Or, when their disk dies, mom and pop usually return their PC to their friendly CompUSA or BestBuy store and get a replacement for either the disk or the whole unit, with the Windows magically preinstalled on it.
I recently met an elderly couple who didn't even understand the concept of hard disk, yet successfully used their PC for the last 4 years.
Potential Linux users? I think not.
There is this report from InfoWorld: "Corporate user resentment and dissatisfaction with Microsoft and some of its practices is at an all-time high," says Laura DiDio, senior analyst with the Yankee Group and the report's author. That frustration is pushing more companies to consider Linux-based operating systems as well as Apple Computer's OS X, she says." http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/08/07/ 020807hndidio.xml
...seem to be very similar to those of the standard PocketPC PDAs:
-3.5'' Reflective TFT LCD Screen 65,536-colors
-Front light
-240 x 320 pixel high-resolution color screen
-Built in SD and Compact Flash(TM) Card Expansion Slots
-206 Mhz Inte®l StrongARM® Processor
-64MB of memory
-Rechargeable Replaceable Li-ION Battery
-MPEG-1/MP3 Player
-12 Navigation Keys, Programmable Quick Buttons
Looks almost the same as iPaq 38xx series, plus some interesting extras (replaceable battery, both CF and SD slots).
It will be interesting to see how well it will fare on the market, considering it is a bit cheaper than iPaqs and Jornadas, but still more expensive than Palms....
...and start a class-action lawsuit against Al Gore, since HE is the one who got us in this mess alltogether by creating the damned Internet!
That'll teach them left-wing liberals!
OK, let's pretend this deal is really in the works....
I would think that AOL is also planning to either introduce a hardware platform of their own to run their Linux and AOL client on, or pick somebody else's rather rigid platform, since it would be next to impossible for them to support *every* type of modem and hardware configuration modern PCs have to offer under Linux (as we are painfully aware as Linux users). Just think WinModems and PCChips integrated motherboards.
This deal would then validate the idea of Sony-Linux-TimeWarnerAOL axis (PlayStation II/III running Linux as a host OS for AOL, which would provide dialup and/or broadband access for online gaming and e-mail and web browsing), which would compete against Microsoft XBox-MSN-AT&T (if I'm not mistaken) combo.
Running Beta 2 of Novell's Client for WinXP (v.4.82) - no problems whatsoever connecting to both NDS 7 and eDirectory 8.5 trees, IPX and IP. This is basically NWClient 4.81 for NT/2000 with XP updates. I installed it on WinXP Pro, although it will also happily work on WinXP Home edition.
No servers were broken in any way during this exercise.
Client hardware used: Dell OptiPlex GX1 (PIII-500, 128MB RAM, 6GB HD).
This machine also had a test of Office XP Standard installed on it, and the machine seemed to be reasonably responsive (you could work on it without noticeable slowdowns), although I think this setup would definitely benefit from extra 128MB RAM.
News Break: Final version of Client 4.82 for WinXP has been released on 12/12/01. You can download it here:
http://download.novell.com/sdMain.jsp
"He also has an ATI Radeon, which the beta version of 8.1 didn't seem to catch."
Beta 3 did - I have All-In-Wonder Radeon and it worked fine out of the box. I even got a TV tuner working without too much effort (info here: http://www.linuxvideo.org/gatos/).
As for 8.1 Final - don't know yet, still downloading it, but I assume if Beta 3 worked, final should work too.
From my experience with Solaris/Linux on a same drive I can tell you that you should start from scratch, installing Solaris first (in the space you have empty in hda1), then reinstalling Linux after that.
I just finished installing Solaris 8 x86 on a middle of the road PC, (EFA Viking 3:VIA MVP3 Chipset, UDMA33 with AMD K6-2 450, 256MB RAM, Matrox G220 AGP, Intel EEPro/100) on an empty 10 GB drive and it was such an ordeal that I am planning to put Linux back on it. Hardware recognition (and conflict resolution) was nonexistent, and the whole installation dreadfully slow - it took me over 2 hours to install Binaries 1 and 2 and an additional 45 minutes for the Companion CD.
Everything has settled now, but the system is rather slow. I know that I am running it on not-so cutting edge hardware, but this box used to fly with pretty much any Linux distribution I would throw on it.
I think the point here is that while Microsoft can use (better: saturate) pretty much every information channel available to announce whatever they want to peddle to the unsuspecting crowd, be it service packs and IIS hole-pluggers or new products, the Linux community has this and couple of other web sites and couple of magazines as their only venues for announcements and Linux-related information.
So, why should Slashdot give Microsoft an opportunity to do what they can do on ZDnet/C|Net, in 99% of IT rags, not to mention TV and radio - here?
(Before I continue - no, I am not a Novell employee, and no, Novell is not dead)
I think Ganesh is on to something here - the only way to compete with.NET is to build something around some other (non-MS) technology.
Novell did exactly that - created a portal environment by combining Open Source, XML and Java components, while using the existing directory structure for authentication. It is still in early stages, but it does work, and it works incredibly well.
Before I see eyes rolling - yes, portals are basically warmed over web pages, but it is a corporate buzzword du jour. Your average CIO/CTO loves it, and will allow unholy amounts of money to be spent on it.
How does it work? You have an Apache/Tomcat combo sitting on one of four supported platforms (NT, NetWare, Linux or Solaris) and JDK with JNDI. (Java Naming and Directory Interface) When you log in, JNDI taps into your existing LDAP3-supported directory for authentication and profiles (Novell of course hopes you will be using NDS/eDirectory), and presents you with cutomized, pre-formated page (done with XML/XSLT) that contains your mailbox, calendar, MetaFrame apps, news, queries your databases via JDBC, etc.
And now the kicker - because Novell is using Open Source and Java components, this product is about three times cheaper than the first comparable solution - something even CFOs might appreciate.
Why I like this so much? I gives Linux foot in the door. Now I can actually *justify* using a Linux box for a web/application server instead of IIS, and once it proves itself as more stable and secure, more will follow. It may look like a small victory, but wars are usually won that way.
Oh yeah, and an obligatory link:
http://www.novell.com/products/portal/
It seems that their point of average falls in the general area of St. Lawrence, or maybe St. John's, Newfoundland (can't really see from all those green rays)....which is an island, with decent connectivity, but for the weather....I dunno....:)
BTW, how can you sign off the Passport, assuming that you signed up for it?
I went through the fine print on the bottom of MSN page, but the only thing I could find was about termination on Microsoft's behalf, like if you were naughty or if you didn't use it often enough.
Well, I guess if I want to unsubscribe I'll just have to start spamming people with some farm pr0n using my Hotmail account...
I had a similar experience with them couple of months ago when they started messing around with DHCP servers - I couldn't get a new lease no matter what I tried, and my old address was taken by somebody else.
It also didn't help that I had one of those blue LinkSys 4-port hubs/routers and no Windows anywhere in sight. The way to milk your static IP from them is to play *really* dumb Windows user("Ummm, where is the Start button?" dumb), and then they'll guide you through step by step. First time around they'll still try to set up your IP settings to use DHCP. Of course, you tell them it's still not working, then they'll have to tell you your new static IP/subnet/gateway/etc. You thank them to the stars, they fell happy, you feel happy. The whole process doesn't take longer than 10-15 minutes (factor in two imaginary Windows reboots).
Worked like a charm!
Now I hear they started distributing new version of their client software (Win/Mac only) that also comes with "diagnostic tools" to help you reestablish your connection in case something goes wrong....Hope my little social engineering skit will still work....:)
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"Yes, but thats what mom and pop has when their disk dies ..."
Or, when their disk dies, mom and pop usually return their PC to their friendly CompUSA or BestBuy store and get a replacement for either the disk or the whole unit, with the Windows magically preinstalled on it.
I recently met an elderly couple who didn't even understand the concept of hard disk, yet successfully used their PC for the last 4 years.
Potential Linux users? I think not.
There is this report from InfoWorld:/ 020807hndidio.xml
"Corporate user resentment and dissatisfaction with Microsoft and some of its practices is at an all-time high," says Laura DiDio, senior analyst with the Yankee Group and the report's author. That frustration is pushing more companies to consider Linux-based operating systems as well as Apple Computer's OS X, she says."
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/08/07
www.myrealbox.com
I believe Mr.Mossberg is not correct stating that BlackBerry 5810 will work in Europe.
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Check out the product matrix chart on RIM's web site:
http://www.rim.net/products/handhelds/specificati
...seem to be very similar to those of the standard PocketPC PDAs:
-3.5'' Reflective TFT LCD Screen 65,536-colors
-Front light
-240 x 320 pixel high-resolution color screen
-Built in SD and Compact Flash(TM) Card Expansion Slots
-206 Mhz Inte®l StrongARM® Processor
-64MB of memory
-Rechargeable Replaceable Li-ION Battery
-MPEG-1/MP3 Player
-12 Navigation Keys, Programmable Quick Buttons
Looks almost the same as iPaq 38xx series, plus some interesting extras (replaceable battery, both CF and SD slots).
It will be interesting to see how well it will fare on the market, considering it is a bit cheaper than iPaqs and Jornadas, but still more expensive than Palms....
...considering that the World Youth Day (and Pope) will be in town around July 20th.
No, there isn't, at least not out of the box.
>Pity there's no Netware support. Or is there?
Will know by tomorrow...In a process of downloading ISO
...and start a class-action lawsuit against Al Gore, since HE is the one who got us in this mess alltogether by creating the damned Internet!
That'll teach them left-wing liberals!
OK, let's pretend this deal is really in the works....
I would think that AOL is also planning to either introduce a hardware platform of their own to run their Linux and AOL client on, or pick somebody else's rather rigid platform, since it would be next to impossible for them to support *every* type of modem and hardware configuration modern PCs have to offer under Linux (as we are painfully aware as Linux users). Just think WinModems and PCChips integrated motherboards.
This deal would then validate the idea of Sony-Linux-TimeWarnerAOL axis (PlayStation II/III running Linux as a host OS for AOL, which would provide dialup and/or broadband access for online gaming and e-mail and web browsing), which would compete against Microsoft XBox-MSN-AT&T (if I'm not mistaken) combo.
Just imagine the adverts......:)
Running Beta 2 of Novell's Client for WinXP (v.4.82) - no problems whatsoever connecting to both NDS 7 and eDirectory 8.5 trees, IPX and IP. This is basically NWClient 4.81 for NT/2000 with XP updates. I installed it on WinXP Pro, although it will also happily work on WinXP Home edition. No servers were broken in any way during this exercise.
Client hardware used: Dell OptiPlex GX1 (PIII-500, 128MB RAM, 6GB HD).
This machine also had a test of Office XP Standard installed on it, and the machine seemed to be reasonably responsive (you could work on it without noticeable slowdowns), although I think this setup would definitely benefit from extra 128MB RAM.
News Break: Final version of Client 4.82 for WinXP has been released on 12/12/01. You can download it here:
http://download.novell.com/sdMain.jsp
"He also has an ATI Radeon, which the beta version of 8.1 didn't seem to catch."
Beta 3 did - I have All-In-Wonder Radeon and it worked fine out of the box. I even got a TV tuner working without too much effort (info here: http://www.linuxvideo.org/gatos/).
As for 8.1 Final - don't know yet, still downloading it, but I assume if Beta 3 worked, final should work too.
Why not just linking the site where you lifted this from:
http://www.somethingawful.com/
From my experience with Solaris/Linux on a same drive I can tell you that you should start from scratch, installing Solaris first (in the space you have empty in hda1), then reinstalling Linux after that.
I just finished installing Solaris 8 x86 on a middle of the road PC, (EFA Viking 3:VIA MVP3 Chipset, UDMA33 with AMD K6-2 450, 256MB RAM, Matrox G220 AGP, Intel EEPro/100) on an empty 10 GB drive and it was such an ordeal that I am planning to put Linux back on it. Hardware recognition (and conflict resolution) was nonexistent, and the whole installation dreadfully slow - it took me over 2 hours to install Binaries 1 and 2 and an additional 45 minutes for the Companion CD.
Everything has settled now, but the system is rather slow. I know that I am running it on not-so cutting edge hardware, but this box used to fly with pretty much any Linux distribution I would throw on it.
I think the point here is that while Microsoft can use (better: saturate) pretty much every information channel available to
announce whatever they want to peddle to the unsuspecting crowd, be it service packs and IIS hole-pluggers
or new products, the Linux community has this and couple of other web sites and couple of magazines as their only
venues for announcements and Linux-related information.
So, why should Slashdot give Microsoft an opportunity to do what they can do on ZDnet/C|Net, in 99% of IT rags, not to
mention TV and radio - here?
(Before I continue - no, I am not a Novell employee, and no, Novell is not dead) .NET is to build something around some other (non-MS) technology.
I think Ganesh is on to something here - the only way to compete with
Novell did exactly that - created a portal environment by combining Open Source, XML and Java components, while using the existing directory structure for authentication. It is still in early stages, but it does work, and it works incredibly well.
Before I see eyes rolling - yes, portals are basically warmed over web pages, but it is a corporate buzzword du jour. Your average CIO/CTO loves it, and will allow unholy amounts of money to be spent on it.
How does it work? You have an Apache/Tomcat combo sitting on one of four supported platforms (NT, NetWare, Linux or Solaris) and JDK with JNDI. (Java Naming and Directory Interface) When you log in, JNDI taps into your existing LDAP3-supported directory for authentication and profiles (Novell of course hopes you will be using NDS/eDirectory), and presents you with cutomized, pre-formated page (done with XML/XSLT) that contains your mailbox, calendar, MetaFrame apps, news, queries your databases via JDBC, etc.
And now the kicker - because Novell is using Open Source and Java components, this product is about three times cheaper than the first comparable solution - something even CFOs might appreciate.
Why I like this so much? I gives Linux foot in the door. Now I can actually *justify* using a Linux box for a web/application server instead of IIS, and once it proves itself as more stable and secure, more will follow. It may look like a small victory, but wars are usually won that way.
Oh yeah, and an obligatory link:
http://www.novell.com/products/portal/
Try PowerArchiver:
http://www.powerarchiver.com/
"Extended Warranty? How can I lose?!"
Homer Simpson (HOMR 12:9)
"China wishes to bring Japan under its economic guidance, while Japan wishes to remain its own independent unit."
Ummm, no, I think you are thinking Taiwan here.
It seems that their point of average falls in the general area of St. Lawrence, or maybe St. John's, Newfoundland (can't really see from all those green rays)....which is an island, with decent connectivity, but for the weather....I dunno....:)
This is by far the best AskSlashdot topic in recent memory (that goes all the way back to March, in my case...:)
BTW, how can you sign off the Passport, assuming that you signed up for it?
I went through the fine print on the bottom of MSN page, but the only thing I could find was about termination on Microsoft's behalf, like if you were naughty or if you didn't use it often enough.
Well, I guess if I want to unsubscribe I'll just have to start spamming people with some farm pr0n using my Hotmail account...
I had a similar experience with them couple of months ago when they started messing around with DHCP servers - I couldn't get a new lease no matter what I tried, and my old address was taken by somebody else.
It also didn't help that I had one of those blue LinkSys 4-port hubs/routers and no Windows anywhere in sight. The way to milk your static IP from them is to play *really* dumb Windows user("Ummm, where is the Start button?" dumb), and then they'll guide you through step by step. First time around they'll still try to set up your IP settings to use DHCP. Of course, you tell them it's still not working, then they'll have to tell you your new static IP/subnet/gateway/etc. You thank them to the stars, they fell happy, you feel happy. The whole process doesn't take longer than 10-15 minutes (factor in two imaginary Windows reboots). Worked like a charm!
Now I hear they started distributing new version of their client software (Win/Mac only) that also comes with "diagnostic tools" to help you reestablish your connection in case something goes wrong....Hope my little social engineering skit will still work....:)
Try here:
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