That's not true. Yes, a synapse is a complex structure, however, this structure has a specific purpose. It doesn't matter that a biological synapse functions differently when chemicals like endorphins or LSD are present. It doesn't matter that synapse need oxygen and can replicate. When you model the functionality of something, you don't have to get all of the specifics working to have a successful model.
quote from toonol below: I don't think we COULD model a single synapse accurately right now.
So basically you think that article I linked to is bullshit right? Because that's exactly what they did. They modeled several billion synapses. Sorry if I don't pay attention to your assumption of the accuracy of said model.
But honestly, it sounds like you guys missed my point. The post I responded was saying we've made nearly no progress on AI. I argued that he is not accounting for the progress that neurology and computers have been making for a long time now. Given the progress thus far in those fields, it isn't highly unreasonable to predict that in 20 years we could have some extremely intelligent AI.
Oh come off it. Zero to sixty in 20 years? This just shows how much you really know about the subject. There's this really substantial field of science out there, it's called neurology. Google that, then tell me again how little we know about the human brain. Scientists have successfully modeled part of the brain of a mouse with a computer. If Moore's law continues as it has for the price of memory, then pretty soon $1000 will buy as many bytes of RAM as humans have synapses. Do you see where I'm going with this?
MS was convicted of the crime of antitrust abuse, where they undermined the operation of the free market.
What free market? You mean the regulated market that the conviction you speak of directly reflects? By definition, a regulated market is not a free market.
Go ahead and mod me offtopic, I don't care. I would like a response though:)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
I don't understand your sig, the numbers you can count are real numbers. Real numbers encompass all integers, all fractions, and all irrational numbers.
Just FYI, an attitude like that is pretty short-sighted. Say I started off a post stating "certain information can travel faster than light", well it has become common knowledge now that that is most likely false. But in the rest of my post I might provide evidence to prove my claim, and you would be missing out on it because of your emphatic attitude. Also, I don't see how your response was at all insightful. "False" is not an argument, it's just dismissive. Are you a neurologist? Do you have some proof that shows that schizos and religious folks share no significant traits? Granted, the parent's post didn't provide overwhelming evidence to prove his claim, but he did provide some modest evidence.
Like most incidents that get people shot, these are easily avoided by police in most cases. All they have to do is ask themselves a few questions:
Does this person have a history of violence?
Is this person accused of a violent crime?
What time of day are we doing the raid?
Are we absolutely sure we can trust the information we have?
If the answer to any of these question is "no" or "probably not," then chances are you are about to walk into an avoidable, violent confrontation with a person who will assume you are a criminal, not a cop.
How does the answer "no" or "probably not" to the first two questions mean the cops are likely going to get shot? How does the answer "no" or "probably not" to the third question make any sense? Whoever wrote that shit should be embarrassed.
...You really don't get it do you. What about the drug company that gets to advertise and sell a sugar pill that they claim prevents cancer? They get to rob all the gullible people and then shore up the company as independent analysts figure out the pill is just sugar? There is nothing glorious about a free market economy when that economy has ANY unscrupulous players. Society demanded a regulated market so that society wouldn't get screwed by lying companies. Granted, society hasn't exactly got what it asked for yet, but rest assured that no regulation is not to the benefit of society.
I still don't understand how all of these deniers get modded so high. They present all kinds of disinformation and logical fallacies. Aren't most slashdotters trained in the ways of logic? Don't most of our jobs depend upon using logic correctly? I love that you mentioned peak-oil, because the predictions made by that model are extremely dire, yet almost no one knows about it. Basically the model asserts that oil is a finite resource and thus the graph of oil production vs. time will be shaped like a bell curve. After the peak, oil demand out paces oil production, and the shit really hits the fan. Oil is so energy dense that it is basically miracle juice, and humans have grown addicted to the stuff. Our economy is almost completely oil dependent, our food (shipping, fertilizing, pesticides), our power (mining, shipping, maintenance), our toys (mining, shipping, plastics), and a lot of people have jobs that require driving to. At this point, our economy consumes 30 billion barrels of oil a year, but we discover less than 4 billion barrels a year. Basically, in the near future peak-oil will cause wall street to collapse (from skyrocketing oil prices) and the power grid will shut down forever. So, all I can suggest is you might want to learn to live without power now before it's too late because at this point there is no stopping the the oil crash. Source.
There are plenty of things that can go "fast than light", but repeat after me, you cannot transmit *information* faster than light.
Isn't the gravitational pull of one mass on another mass a form of information? Say you had some control over the momentum of the sun? The gravitational effect of the sun on the earth would change the instant the sun's momentum changed, not 8 minutes later.
Ugh, if you are going to use "former and latter" please use them correctly. These words only refer to 2 items, there is no former or latter for a 4 item list. It appears you are trying to sound smart, but end up making yourself look bad.
The first is a mod on the difficulty level, the last three are different flavors of game type.
You don't have to hack an account to sell gold. Many gold-sellers use bots to farm for gold. However, it is true that the in-game advertisers of gold-selling are all hacked accounts.
Sure, you 'communicated' the merit of the reward system, but who cares? I could 'communicate' the merit of killing all humans, but not many would agree that there is merit to killing all humans. What you failed to do was 'prove' the merit of the reward system. My proof that we could live without the reward system stems from the fact that many people have created, and many people still do create art without much or any monetary reward. So no, your generality isn't even 'close enough to true'.
However, I will admit that I am arguing over a made up scenario that I highly doubt will ever come to be. I really can't see 100% of the digital music consumers accepting 'free' as the highest price they will pay for digital music. Even if this scenario did come to be, it's not like the artists gain nothing from people 'buying' music for free. They get exposure, free distribution, and possibly fame. Hopefully, they can figure it out from there.
You've heard the term 'starving artists' right? Sure, we all would like to make a decent living doing what we love, my point is that there are plenty of people who will go on creating art even if it doesn't help get food on the table. Your assumption that if all artists stopped getting support then no one would bother creating is false.
"The amount of data Google collects from everywhere on the Internet is indeed huge, and website owners should be using a local open source alternative to keep visitor data private."
Classic FUD, all that google analytics does is store a simple cookie so that it can differentiate between page loads, unique visits, and return visits. The other data mining google does doesn't involve google analytics.
When heat enters a system temperature will not change until the phase change is complete. Once our icecaps have melted, temperature will start rising more dramatically.
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quote from toonol below:
I don't think we COULD model a single synapse accurately right now.
So basically you think that article I linked to is bullshit right? Because that's exactly what they did. They modeled several billion synapses. Sorry if I don't pay attention to your assumption of the accuracy of said model.
But honestly, it sounds like you guys missed my point. The post I responded was saying we've made nearly no progress on AI. I argued that he is not accounting for the progress that neurology and computers have been making for a long time now. Given the progress thus far in those fields, it isn't highly unreasonable to predict that in 20 years we could have some extremely intelligent AI.
Oh come off it. Zero to sixty in 20 years? This just shows how much you really know about the subject. There's this really substantial field of science out there, it's called neurology. Google that, then tell me again how little we know about the human brain. Scientists have successfully modeled part of the brain of a mouse with a computer. If Moore's law continues as it has for the price of memory, then pretty soon $1000 will buy as many bytes of RAM as humans have synapses. Do you see where I'm going with this?
It's...it's...sigh...it's poetry.
MS was convicted of the crime of antitrust abuse, where they undermined the operation of the free market.
What free market? You mean the regulated market that the conviction you speak of directly reflects? By definition, a regulated market is not a free market.
Thanks! Now I get it :)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
I don't understand your sig, the numbers you can count are real numbers. Real numbers encompass all integers, all fractions, and all irrational numbers.
Send me an email and I'll mail you a pizza roll. Leave a comment and I'll mail you a pizza roll.
Except we aren't talking about living things, we are talking about dead things. Dead things that would be burned, rather than used for research.
Just FYI, an attitude like that is pretty short-sighted. Say I started off a post stating "certain information can travel faster than light", well it has become common knowledge now that that is most likely false. But in the rest of my post I might provide evidence to prove my claim, and you would be missing out on it because of your emphatic attitude. Also, I don't see how your response was at all insightful. "False" is not an argument, it's just dismissive. Are you a neurologist? Do you have some proof that shows that schizos and religious folks share no significant traits? Granted, the parent's post didn't provide overwhelming evidence to prove his claim, but he did provide some modest evidence.
Psssh, engineering degrees can be engineered....er
Now, there are always exceptions to such generalizations but broadly, religious people are anti-science and anti-progress.
And as jgtg32a has shown, pro-thick-headedness. I can't believe it took you 3 posts for him to understand your point...
Like most incidents that get people shot, these are easily avoided by police in most cases. All they have to do is ask themselves a few questions:
If the answer to any of these question is "no" or "probably not," then chances are you are about to walk into an avoidable, violent confrontation with a person who will assume you are a criminal, not a cop.
How does the answer "no" or "probably not" to the first two questions mean the cops are likely going to get shot? How does the answer "no" or "probably not" to the third question make any sense? Whoever wrote that shit should be embarrassed.
...You really don't get it do you. What about the drug company that gets to advertise and sell a sugar pill that they claim prevents cancer? They get to rob all the gullible people and then shore up the company as independent analysts figure out the pill is just sugar? There is nothing glorious about a free market economy when that economy has ANY unscrupulous players. Society demanded a regulated market so that society wouldn't get screwed by lying companies. Granted, society hasn't exactly got what it asked for yet, but rest assured that no regulation is not to the benefit of society.
I still don't understand how all of these deniers get modded so high. They present all kinds of disinformation and logical fallacies. Aren't most slashdotters trained in the ways of logic? Don't most of our jobs depend upon using logic correctly? I love that you mentioned peak-oil, because the predictions made by that model are extremely dire, yet almost no one knows about it. Basically the model asserts that oil is a finite resource and thus the graph of oil production vs. time will be shaped like a bell curve. After the peak, oil demand out paces oil production, and the shit really hits the fan. Oil is so energy dense that it is basically miracle juice, and humans have grown addicted to the stuff. Our economy is almost completely oil dependent, our food (shipping, fertilizing, pesticides), our power (mining, shipping, maintenance), our toys (mining, shipping, plastics), and a lot of people have jobs that require driving to. At this point, our economy consumes 30 billion barrels of oil a year, but we discover less than 4 billion barrels a year. Basically, in the near future peak-oil will cause wall street to collapse (from skyrocketing oil prices) and the power grid will shut down forever. So, all I can suggest is you might want to learn to live without power now before it's too late because at this point there is no stopping the the oil crash. Source.
Lol, then block the app dude.
There are plenty of things that can go "fast than light", but repeat after me, you cannot transmit *information* faster than light.
Isn't the gravitational pull of one mass on another mass a form of information? Say you had some control over the momentum of the sun? The gravitational effect of the sun on the earth would change the instant the sun's momentum changed, not 8 minutes later.
The first is a mod on the difficulty level, the last three are different flavors of game type.
FTFY
What about phi + pi? Wouldn't that be even harder to approximate?
You don't have to hack an account to sell gold. Many gold-sellers use bots to farm for gold. However, it is true that the in-game advertisers of gold-selling are all hacked accounts.
However, I will admit that I am arguing over a made up scenario that I highly doubt will ever come to be. I really can't see 100% of the digital music consumers accepting 'free' as the highest price they will pay for digital music. Even if this scenario did come to be, it's not like the artists gain nothing from people 'buying' music for free. They get exposure, free distribution, and possibly fame. Hopefully, they can figure it out from there.
Hey everyone, it's a conspiracy theorist. Everyone point and laugh.
You've heard the term 'starving artists' right? Sure, we all would like to make a decent living doing what we love, my point is that there are plenty of people who will go on creating art even if it doesn't help get food on the table. Your assumption that if all artists stopped getting support then no one would bother creating is false.
Eventually there will be no one else to support the content you are obtaining illegally, and so none will be made
I don't know if anyone has told you this yet, but not all artists are in it for the money...
"The amount of data Google collects from everywhere on the Internet is indeed huge, and website owners should be using a local open source alternative to keep visitor data private." Classic FUD, all that google analytics does is store a simple cookie so that it can differentiate between page loads, unique visits, and return visits. The other data mining google does doesn't involve google analytics.
When heat enters a system temperature will not change until the phase change is complete. Once our icecaps have melted, temperature will start rising more dramatically.