What's the difference between this and what Sprint Broadband has offered and already quit offering. And my ISP, JORSM Internet, has been working on supporting this for some time and believe do offer it to non residential customers already although there website don't say anything about it. Just thought it was wierd to hear about something on here that i knew existed for months.
They make a big deal about all the many new users users of Ultimate Yahtzee and Boggle pretty high on the list of most popular games...Maybe it has something to do with that they were free with General Mills cereals for a while.
Will any of this matter by time it's implemented? With Internet download speeds getting faster and faster why would people deal with the major networks crap when they can stream full screen video over there net connection?
"Rather than express your content in the Web's native, open, standardized formats, you've hidden you content inside of a non-native, non-indexable, non-searchable format that a good many surfers can't view."
And your average.jpg is indexable? Well you can index the alt tag...so then a web designer would make sure the text from his/her flash movie would be included in a html tag in the page that brings it up. In fact I've used Flash 4 a bit and when you hit publish the.htm file it outputs does exactly that.
"Forcing them to download the most-recent Flash plugin just for the privelige of viewing your site is presumptious and unrealistic -- many people will just surf to another site, perhaps one of your competitors."
When designing a site you have to assume that the average hit is gonna come from a newer, faster machine. You can't expect the site designer to continue and continue to make site backwards compatible. I know i wouldn't be trying to get a site to look as good in Netscape 1.0 as it does in IE 5. When I design a page I assume that my average visitor is running win98 which happens to include a flash plugin in the install. I figure I'll also get a decent amount of requests from a Win 95 machine and Linux machines. Most of these though would have probably already downloaded the plugin to view other sites in the past but just in case I'll provide a convienient link to tell them where to get it. It is not designers problem if a user can't keep up with technology, he has to go with the majority. As long as the technology is excepted as the norm (which flash seems to be) go ahead and use it.
"Most companies would kill for a few percentage points of market share. But, by using Flash for a client's web site, you'll exclude people with older browsers and unsupported platforms from using your site. These people represent a sizable market share. Do you think your clients don't want these people as customers? Content hidden inside of Flash can't be indexed by search engines. Do you think that you clients don't want people to find their products and services easily?"
See the above solution for the search engine problem. Plus you can't make every user happy it don't happen. And if your service is technology related such as and ISP or Software company, you see customer with out of date equipment as a big Support Hassle.
"I can't think of one instance of where Flash has made a site better. Just about every use I've seen has been gratuitous. People don't surf the web because they want a Rich Immersive Experience."
Image is everything. It's not how great your product is it's how well you can market, display, and how cute it is. Everybody judges a book by it's cover whether they admit it or not. You also forget sites out there that get tremendous amounts of hits for there flash cartoons or games or what not. Heck with out flash we could have that great Napster Bad movie that made me laugh my ass off. There are other good uses to, I generally dislike the intro's but the other stuff it can do is pretty cool.
I have a Toshiba Portege 3025CT toshiba's super thin (.75 inches) and Super Light (2.9 lbs) laptop that i installed RedHat 6.2 seemlessly on. Display, Modem, everything installed great. I very much recommend it. I plan to get a newer model of this machine because i've enjoyed it so much. That's why the one i got is for sale right now.
Isnt Novell a dieing breed? Why does IBM want Novell when they can build on linux? They already seem to have but a good amount of resources toward linux already. I never really been a novell user at all so could anyone tell me any advantages it has over its competitors or any reason why IBM would have interest in them? Is IBM maybe buying them out to faze them out...maybe they figure the profits from the dieing company will cover the buy prices as they let them wither away. I just can't see why IBM would want to put any money into them.
I know the area of New Jerusalem(aka Grand Rapids), as it's reffered to by many members of Reformed Communities in other parts of the nation, quite well. In fact I visit it quite often as I have friends in the area. I just don't see it as being that extreme, but then again I'm PR (Protestant Reformed).
What Holland's problem is, and most Reformed communities for that matter, that it don't realize is that you're never going to block all things "evil" from your childs eyes. What I really don't understand is that these people, including me, believe that church government comes before civil government, but yet they insist on changing the laws in civil goverment which in effect is tearing apart the first amendment -- the one that guaratees there right to there beliefs.
Quit whining you loser! I found the posting interesting, maybe not the most interesting thing I've heard today, but nonetheless interesting.
I mean some guy got hired at RH...
I'd agree with you if they were talking about some tech support guy was hired or something, but this guy was hired as Chief Technical Officer and was the co-founder of the company that RH just bought. It definately qualifies as interesting.
I'm sick of hearing people complain about the postings and and the authors here. Take your flame elsewhere.
*static*...."I am God and I have taken over your radio you shall now drive through that building up ahead at a very high speed, I will remove it for you" *!crash!*
If RedHat buys Corel we should get Open Source WordPerfect Suite. This could really kill MS Office. A good well known office suite that's free! Why would anyone buy MS Office for some $500 or so.
I have one question then. Which distribution do you keep or do you distribute both? Two distrubutions from one company sounds dumb to me.
Another good thing... RH and Corel and have been two of the biggest helps to get linux to the masses, putting there heads together couldn't be a bad thing.
Well, it has always been my understanding that Fibre Optics transfered data by sending "light" through "glass fibre" hence the name "Fibre Optics." From this explanation I would imagine that light traveling through glass fibre would travel at the speed of light. Pretty logical I think.
I was working tech support for an ISP when "Melissa" hit. I spent all day explaining to people the truth about the virus..."As long as you don't download and run any attachments..." I can just hear them now "But, you said before that I couldn't get a virus by just reading my mail..."
I feel for you support boys, just keep your favorite UserFriendly strip on the screen to keep you from snapping.
Who says they're not all doing there research. During the RedHat IPO stuff I got these 2 messages...
************************************************ * Hi--I'm a reporter from Wired News working on an article about RedHat's offer to sell shares at the IPO price to members of the open source community. Judging by the thread and poll on slashdot, and some e-mails I've gotten, there's some concern about getting access to the offer.
If you have a minute, I'd like to talk to you about this. I can be reached at..., or e-mail me with a number to reach you at.
Thanks,
Polly Sprenger Wired News ************************************************ * My name is Randy Smith and I'm a reporter for the Wall Street Journal and I was wondering if I could talk to you for a possible story on the Red Hat stock allocation. I saw your posting on "Slashdot." My phone number is.... ************************************************ **
I think the best way to save this is to have the new netscape come out with new features that IE is not capable of. It'd have to be something really cool so that webmasters would want to use it. You release the new netscape for both linux and windows and windows and linux users will be going crazy for it so they can see the great new features that have been implement on sites. You'd wanna give the information on implementing this to a few very popular sites before the release date so that customers can use it as soon as its released.
The best would be to get aol to implement it into it's service, there we have a few million automatic netscape users, a group so large that webmasters can't afford to ignore them.
The problem with your "If you can replicate you can create" theory in this situation is this: he is replicating the signal the brain sends; by your theory he should be able to create that signal. This is only limited help to building an android. He can create the signal and send the signal but he needs a device to know the "when" to send it and the "why" send it without any human interaction. Basically, things the human brain does.
What is cool that could come from this is a robot could be created to take complicated commands. Example "Robot, get me a beer." If he can figure out the signal to move body parts then he should be able to figure out how to control eyes so that the robot could recognize things nearly as well as a human. It would be able to open the fridge and be able to tell which object inside is a beer. Very cool.
Still one problem, where do you get the arms and eyes and such to create it?
I heard this on the radio afternoon also, I found that it was an interesting story. The problem I have is that I found it here. This does not qualify as "News for Nerds." It has nothing to do about new or interesting technology or any scientific advances that you might expect. The only reason I think that it is appearing here is that it's loosley related to the Hellmouth series. I thought that the Hellmouth series purpose was to discuss the problem of geeks not being "normal" and how society reacts to this. So...this story might have some merit if it the person involved was a geek, but that is not the case. This kid was not only dumb, but was probably the type of person that beat up geeks as a hobby. This kid could not even use proper english or spell and he got 100%?!? Maybe you if you wrote from the aspect that geeks can't the good education they want and need in the public school system. If you did that I'd find it much more relevant.
I wonder if they are are monitoring this discussion right now?
Not where...but who will offer.
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Since there is hardly any ISP with backbone connection faster than a T3, who will offer it and get you full speed? It will be such a bandwidth hog that it'll be awhile before anybody will offer it at an affordable price for residential use. Until ISP's can get very high speed backbone connections at a better price it will be a bit before you can get it at home.
-Al- PS How come when I submitted this story early this morning it got rejected? I think the squandron of samuri squirels are getting reject happy!
Well I for one have not seen any advertising for the Athlon at all.
I live in quite a large market too (Chicagoland), and I've never seen one billboard or TV commercial for the athlon yet.
My view is that marketing is everything. You could sell bottles of dirt if you marketed right. Well, that might be pushing it. Marketing not only sells to consumers but it will sell to retailers too. What I mean is if the retailer knows the consumer is merely interested in the product they will begin to advertise it in there advertisements (i.e. a Best Buy ad all about the new athlon powered compaqs -- an add for BestBuy but it spends it time bragging about a new product that they want customers to come and buy)
If AMD is to ever beat out intel they'll need alot more promotion!
Slashdot Mirror
chomosome?
Maybe they can figure out what makes Slashdot editors spell so badly...
-Al-
What's the difference between this and what Sprint Broadband has offered and already quit offering. And my ISP, JORSM Internet, has been working on supporting this for some time and believe do offer it to non residential customers already although there website don't say anything about it. Just thought it was wierd to hear about something on here that i knew existed for months.
-Al-
They make a big deal about all the many new users users of Ultimate Yahtzee and Boggle pretty high on the list of most popular games...Maybe it has something to do with that they were free with General Mills cereals for a while.
-Al-
Will any of this matter by time it's implemented? With Internet download speeds getting faster and faster why would people deal with the major networks crap when they can stream full screen video over there net connection?
-Al-
"Rather than express your content in the Web's native, open, standardized formats, you've hidden you content inside of a non-native, non-indexable, non-searchable format that a good many surfers can't view."
.jpg is indexable? Well you can index the alt tag...so then a web designer would make sure the text from his/her flash movie would be included in a html tag in the page that brings it up. In fact I've used Flash 4 a bit and when you hit publish the .htm file it outputs does exactly that.
And your average
"Forcing them to download the most-recent Flash plugin just for the privelige of viewing your site is presumptious and unrealistic -- many people will just surf to another site, perhaps one of your competitors."
When designing a site you have to assume that the average hit is gonna come from a newer, faster machine. You can't expect the site designer to continue and continue to make site backwards compatible. I know i wouldn't be trying to get a site to look as good in Netscape 1.0 as it does in IE 5. When I design a page I assume that my average visitor is running win98 which happens to include a flash plugin in the install. I figure I'll also get a decent amount of requests from a Win 95 machine and Linux machines. Most of these though would have probably already downloaded the plugin to view other sites in the past but just in case I'll provide a convienient link to tell them where to get it. It is not designers problem if a user can't keep up with technology, he has to go with the majority. As long as the technology is excepted as the norm (which flash seems to be) go ahead and use it.
"Most companies would kill for a few percentage points of market share. But, by using Flash for a client's web site, you'll exclude people with older browsers and unsupported platforms from using your site. These people represent a sizable market share. Do you think your clients don't want these people as customers? Content hidden inside of Flash can't be indexed by search engines. Do you think that you clients don't want people to find their products and services easily?"
See the above solution for the search engine problem. Plus you can't make every user happy it don't happen. And if your service is technology related such as and ISP or Software company, you see customer with out of date equipment as a big Support Hassle.
"I can't think of one instance of where Flash has made a site better. Just about every use I've seen has been gratuitous. People don't surf the web because they want a Rich Immersive Experience."
Image is everything. It's not how great your product is it's how well you can market, display, and how cute it is. Everybody judges a book by it's cover whether they admit it or not. You also forget sites out there that get tremendous amounts of hits for there flash cartoons or games or what not. Heck with out flash we could have that great Napster Bad movie that made me laugh my ass off. There are other good uses to, I generally dislike the intro's but the other stuff it can do is pretty cool.
Just my thoughts,
-Al-
I have a Toshiba Portege 3025CT toshiba's super thin (.75 inches) and Super Light (2.9 lbs) laptop that i installed RedHat 6.2 seemlessly on. Display, Modem, everything installed great. I very much recommend it. I plan to get a newer model of this machine because i've enjoyed it so much. That's why the one i got is for sale right now.
-Al-
Isnt Novell a dieing breed? Why does IBM want Novell when they can build on linux? They already seem to have but a good amount of resources toward linux already. I never really been a novell user at all so could anyone tell me any advantages it has over its competitors or any reason why IBM would have interest in them? Is IBM maybe buying them out to faze them out...maybe they figure the profits from the dieing company will cover the buy prices as they let them wither away. I just can't see why IBM would want to put any money into them.
But then again it's just a rumor....
-Al-
"mmmm...now with sprikles!" -HJS
I know the area of New Jerusalem(aka Grand Rapids), as it's reffered to by many members of Reformed Communities in other parts of the nation, quite well. In fact I visit it quite often as I have friends in the area. I just don't see it as being that extreme, but then again I'm PR (Protestant Reformed).
What Holland's problem is, and most Reformed communities for that matter, that it don't realize is that you're never going to block all things "evil" from your childs eyes. What I really don't understand is that these people, including me, believe that church government comes before civil government, but yet they insist on changing the laws in civil goverment which in effect is tearing apart the first amendment -- the one that guaratees there right to there beliefs.
Just my $.02,
-Al-
Quit whining you loser! I found the posting interesting, maybe not the most interesting thing I've heard today, but nonetheless interesting.
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I mean some guy got hired at RH...
I'd agree with you if they were talking about some tech support guy was hired or something, but this guy was hired as Chief Technical Officer and was the co-founder of the company that RH just bought. It definately qualifies as interesting.
I'm sick of hearing people complain about the postings and and the authors here. Take your flame elsewhere.
Keep up the good work
-Al-
That's where I got the idea
*static*...."I am God and I have taken over your radio you shall now drive through that building up ahead at a very high speed, I will remove it for you" *!crash!*
If RedHat buys Corel we should get Open Source WordPerfect Suite. This could really kill MS Office. A good well known office suite that's free! Why would anyone buy MS Office for some $500 or so.
I have one question then. Which distribution do you keep or do you distribute both? Two distrubutions from one company sounds dumb to me.
Another good thing... RH and Corel and have been two of the biggest helps to get linux to the masses, putting there heads together couldn't be a bad thing.
-Al-
I thought that was one of the advantages of fibre, that it didn't have any interference such as crosstalk on copper wires.
Well, it has always been my understanding that Fibre Optics transfered data by sending "light" through "glass fibre" hence the name "Fibre Optics." From this explanation I would imagine that light traveling through glass fibre would travel at the speed of light. Pretty logical I think.
-Al-
I like the radio with direct access to the internet, although it'll be kinda wierd "tuning in" to www.radiostation.net
What I want to know is when can I get this in my car?
-Al-
I was working tech support for an ISP when "Melissa" hit. I spent all day explaining to people the truth about the virus..."As long as you don't download and run any attachments..." I can just hear them now "But, you said before that I couldn't get a virus by just reading my mail..."
I feel for you support boys, just keep your favorite UserFriendly strip on the screen to keep you from snapping.
-Al-
Now that 60+ Mb DSL becomes much more feasable. Yea Baby!
-Al-
Who says they're not all doing there research. During the RedHat IPO stuff I got these 2 messages...
* *
..., or e-mail me with a number to reach you at.
* * * **
***********************************************
Hi--I'm a reporter from Wired News working on an article about RedHat's
offer to sell shares at the IPO price to members of the open source
community. Judging by the thread and poll on slashdot, and some e-mails
I've gotten, there's some concern about getting access to the offer.
If you have a minute, I'd like to talk to you about this. I can be reached
at
Thanks,
Polly Sprenger
Wired News
***********************************************
My name is Randy Smith and I'm a reporter for the Wall Street Journal and I
was wondering if I could talk to you for a possible story on the Red Hat
stock allocation. I saw your posting on "Slashdot." My phone number is....
***********************************************
-Al-
I think the best way to save this is to have the new netscape come out with new features that IE is not capable of. It'd have to be something really cool so that webmasters would want to use it. You release the new netscape for both linux and windows and windows and linux users will be going crazy for it so they can see the great new features that have been implement on sites. You'd wanna give the information on implementing this to a few very popular sites before the release date so that customers can use it as soon as its released.
The best would be to get aol to implement it into it's service, there we have a few million automatic netscape users, a group so large that webmasters can't afford to ignore them.
Just my thoughts,
-Al-
What if I get cracked? I don't need some cracker controlling my body parts. ...*slap*...I can't control my...*punch*...errghh!
*slap* sorry I
-Al-
The problem with your "If you can replicate you can create" theory in this situation is this: he is replicating the signal the brain sends; by your theory he should be able to create that signal. This is only limited help to building an android. He can create the signal and send the signal but he needs a device to know the "when" to send it and the "why" send it without any human interaction. Basically, things the human brain does.
What is cool that could come from this is a robot could be created to take complicated commands. Example "Robot, get me a beer." If he can figure out the signal to move body parts then he should be able to figure out how to control eyes so that the robot could recognize things nearly as well as a human. It would be able to open the fridge and be able to tell which object inside is a beer. Very cool.
Still one problem, where do you get the arms and eyes and such to create it?
-Al-
I heard this on the radio afternoon also, I found that it was an interesting story. The problem I have is that I found it here. This does not qualify as "News for Nerds." It has nothing to do about new or interesting technology or any scientific advances that you might expect. The only reason I think that it is appearing here is that it's loosley related to the Hellmouth series. I thought that the Hellmouth series purpose was to discuss the problem of geeks not being "normal" and how society reacts to this. So...this story might have some merit if it the person involved was a geek, but that is not the case. This kid was not only dumb, but was probably the type of person that beat up geeks as a hobby. This kid could not even use proper english or spell and he got 100%?!? Maybe you if you wrote from the aspect that geeks can't the good education they want and need in the public school system. If you did that I'd find it much more relevant.
-Al-
I wonder if they are are monitoring this discussion right now?
Since there is hardly any ISP with backbone connection faster than a T3, who will offer it and get you full speed? It will be such a bandwidth hog that it'll be awhile before anybody will offer it at an affordable price for residential use. Until ISP's can get very high speed backbone connections at a better price it will be a bit before you can get it at home.
-Al-
PS How come when I submitted this story early this morning it got rejected? I think the squandron of samuri squirels are getting reject happy!
Well I for one have not seen any advertising for the Athlon at all.
I live in quite a large market too (Chicagoland), and I've never seen one billboard or TV commercial for the athlon yet.
My view is that marketing is everything. You could sell bottles of dirt if you marketed right. Well, that might be pushing it. Marketing not only sells to consumers but it will sell to retailers too. What I mean is if the retailer knows the consumer is merely interested in the product they will begin to advertise it in there advertisements (i.e. a Best Buy ad all about the new athlon powered compaqs -- an add for BestBuy but it spends it time bragging about a new product that they want customers to come and buy)
If AMD is to ever beat out intel they'll need alot more promotion!
-Al-