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$lynx -head http://www.themoscowtimes.com
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:02:33 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) (Red Hat/Linux)
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
At least they weren't so slashdotted that lynx could connect:>
Oh, man. Routing gives me a compsci woodie!
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Seeing as this is probably one of the *most* nebulous areas of networking, whilst being actually fairly comprehensible, one might think that more folks would find it interesting.
I know I do!
Geez.. It has it all! Set theory, computational theory, topology, physics..
Oh GAWD!
(Not kidding, BTW)
Well, you know what's next..
(If she's actually hot, it'd be all that much more ermm.. fulfilling..)
Question. Rhetorical.
How does one *cleanly* dope a polymer to perform at its' optimum. The geometry of how the molecules organise have to be extremely critical.
Has anyone yet attempted to use, say xray interference, electron beam interference, or some other fine grained field matrix to *coerce* the little fuckers we're after here to all get friendly according to a preplanned structure?
I've read stuff about IBM's efforts that suggest that they are doing exactly that, and are succeeding.
Thoughts?
I saw the news hour episode you saw, as well, and this clicked immediately for me.
I also wonder if the phenomenon in question somehow relates to electrets, and the claims made for ovonics. It would seem to overlap, as all seem to refer to 'frozen' semiconducting electronic states.
Sorta makes 'Real Genius' (the movie) feel visionary, eh?
Notice that in the article he mentioned that he compiled all of the drivers from source, and found that the easier route.
This should not only encourage all those rpm weenies out there to 'use the source, luke, but it also dispells any doubts about the quality of compilation that GCC performs these days.
I find it quite amusing that an immature open source driver for a free OS, compiled with a freeware compiler can get within a twat filament's distance of the performance of products with literally billions of $$ behind them.
THAT is a hoot!
Let's not forget also that GCC is the lingua franca of portable computing. GNU tools are probably the *first* add-ons any sun, hp or aix system receives after setup, so they can actually be *used*.
"[Please note: Upon further research, I realized that my original numbers were a bit off. The numbers above are new and revised. Fred Moody,
8/4/00.]"
IE: My mail box is full of eels!
What a weasel!
But wait! It gets worse!
He *aggregates* bug reports across *all* linux distros. That's deceptive. VERY deceptive.
Redhat leads with 38 reports. Redhat also ships with just about every service you can think of turned on by default. That is still FAR shy of the 99 bugs for '99 (hmm.. coincidence?)
If we look at bugs for '00 , things look a tad better for M$. 37 for M$ vs 17 for Redhat, the *least* secure linux distro.
I run slack. I show up with zero severe security issues. That would make slack *infinitely* more secure than M$.
Moody is a moron. Case closed.
"[Please note: Upon further research, I realized that my original numbers were a bit off. The
numbers above are new and revised. Fred Moody,
8/4/00.]"
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Some of my absolute favorite usenet personalities are australian, and given the groups that they post to (ASR, ATSR, CLPM, CIWAC, etc) they can wield some rather severe power as a group in their home communities. My advice is to GDO (Geek's Day Off) the entire country for a day or two, and note the response of their brain dead politicians. We in the west should also note carefully this astonishingly idiotic political behavior, as we have those so inclined in abundance amongst our number here.
I also seem to remember some sort of 'authoritative' rankings that consistently put it in the top 10 or 20 best scifi of all time. My personal (very) fave authors have to be Brunner, Ursula Leguin, Philip K. Dick, Greg Benford, Samuel R Delany (Triton rocks! Would make a great movie! Dear lord! Who would we have to get to direct THAT? Fellini is DEAD!), Frank Herbert, The Boy and His Dog guy (sorry-brain fart... OOH! Harlan Ellison!), Bradbury of course. Heinlein is overrated, but I have enjoyed his stuff... Basically people who have never, ever, ever, ever written about elves or wizards. Ever. (except tounge in cheek. Niven had some fun with wizards and such on occasion, and it was a riot)
If you want entry onto how much Brunner gets it right, read Stand On Zanzibar, a work that is of a level of quality to equal or eclipse that of Dune. I won't even attempt to describe it. Just read it. It's totally visionary. It's also the place the term 'hipcrime' came from. That fact should have a little resonance with the more attuned denizens of this august forum.
This idea makes a hell of alot of sense to me. Always has. Clock the *results*! Purely combinatoreal (sp?) logic definitely rocks. My personal opinion is that we (the open source community) should construct the first practical neurally optimising compiler (which would make this architecture practical) , and patent the fucker, so those parasitic capitalist bastards OUT THERE can't get their clammy hands on it. This is DEFINITELY doable. Ideas, anyone?
Thanks so much for mentioning The Story of Mel. That *has* to be my absolute favorite part of the jargon file. I was just mentioning it to a bud of mine that I'm attempting to seduce away from the Dark Side. I'll shoot him the url. Hope he appreciates it.
Sorry boyz Neurons not only respond to an *ill defined* set of rules, but they *like* them! They adapt on their own according to whatever synaptic traffic is thrown at them. There was an article on this in a VERY early dr dobbs ('76? '77?) , which did a beautiful job of describing the comm model neurons use in nature, and an analog model for same. The big problem with true neural nets is 'seeding' them with the right initial conditions so that they converge on what you want them to do. It's a chaotic computation problem when it's pure, and that is a very hairy area. 8P All about attractors and stuff... You have to 'train' them. Do I make sense here? If not; Bugger off!
I'm amazed you haven't more comment on your post! Civil disobedience is INDEED where this war will be fought! Let all us techies just display our middle digits rather menacingly to these fools and say: 4Q! You want your fancy ass B2B web action? You want your corporate nets to actually WORK? Then you can just pucker up and kiss our collective apertures, cuz boyo, we will SHUT YOU DOWN, if you don't cease and desist with this shit! We don't work, you lose billions. GET THE FSCKING PICTURE HERE?
You have knowledge at the end. And wisdom. Resources *you* obviously NEED, in huge quantities. SOME people like to *learn* things! If you need 'support' for something as basic as a piece of hardware, you are indeed pathetic. RTFM and you'll be allright! Through the night! [STR; obscure]
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The problem of electricity can be dealt with via mere skin galvanism! You touch... Your own acidity provides the power! The way power consumption is going, mere AIR will be enough to propel most any electronic device!
Quoting out of context is the fast track to hell. YOU LIED! Ready yourself for the cosmic consequences. Get a fucking grip on actual reality. Lubricate. Liberally. Pete.
It doesn't really take the power back, as such. It nullifies the very notion of power, It puts the field of conflict back in the hands of the 'people' to resolve it as best they can. Bloody, civilised, impoverished.. In my mind, all those options are far better than the slavery he's rebelling against. The worst: White Boy Slavery. Which we as 'enlightened individuals' are trying to tell black america is a better option than what they have now. When the empowered are themselves enslaved, as they are now, it is indeed time for rebellion! Get a Usenet feed, Kidz. Read some ASR. LEARN what whiteboy slavery is! You'll take up the gun with chuckD to merely LESSEN your suffering!
Anyone but me read SF here? The thought that someone a few millenia from now should rediscover satellites, and divine a manner to communicate with them gives me a huge boner! If they are strictly solar powered, they should *not* be taken down. Let them be hacked! Let them be commandeered! GPL the software that makes them run! They are a resource that we all can use! For mankind's benefit! Burning them up would be truly obscene. Offer them up to the geek world first. We'll find a use for them!
I totally agree. Frankly, I think that any wannabe admin should know both C AND some assembler, so they at least have a clue as to what what executable code leaves in its wake when it runs. Really helps. I simply cannot imagine the confusion of someone attempting to do anything meaningful with computers w/o knowing this stuff. I know I'm so glad I learned it.
Sorry if I'm horning in here, but If I remember my op amp theory right, noise buildup has a lot to do with good impedance matching, even where FET devices are involved. Noise current density is the term I seem to recall (it's been YEARS!) Current-differencing amplifiers, tweaked and biased properly, null out a lot of that noise, IIRC. High quality (film) resistors , tantalum caps for bypassing the chip power leads, careful choice of freq response of your signal-carrying caps (polyester or mylar - NEVER ceramic or electrolytic!) and good quality wire and solder, if that's what you're using for interconnects, can help too. Just my.02.
This is also an excellent post that soberly hits the nail on its' very head. Let the tech folks do their jobs... PLEEZ! They do indeed hold the keys to the tank. Let them wield them! You'll Save Money! Geeezz...
Actually, I'm pretty sure you're wrong. It's the holder of a trademark or servicemark who actually is obliged to defend it actively, lest it (they) fall into everyday parlance. If I'm not mistaken, that's how the word 'aspirin' became generic in the US. It's still a Bayer trademark in many other parts of the world.
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$lynx -head http://www.themoscowtimes.com
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:02:33 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) (Red Hat/Linux)
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
At least they weren't so slashdotted that lynx could connect
Seeing as this is probably one of the *most* nebulous areas of networking, whilst being actually fairly comprehensible, one might think that more folks would find it interesting.
I know I do!
Geez.. It has it all! Set theory, computational theory, topology, physics..
Oh GAWD!
(Not kidding, BTW)
Well, you know what's next..
(If she's actually hot, it'd be all that much more ermm.. fulfilling..)
Question. Rhetorical.
How does one *cleanly* dope a polymer to perform at its' optimum. The geometry of how the molecules organise have to be extremely critical.
Has anyone yet attempted to use, say xray interference, electron beam interference, or some other fine grained field matrix to *coerce* the little fuckers we're after here to all get friendly according to a preplanned structure?
I've read stuff about IBM's efforts that suggest that they are doing exactly that, and are succeeding.
Thoughts?
I saw the news hour episode you saw, as well, and this clicked immediately for me.
I also wonder if the phenomenon in question somehow relates to electrets, and the claims made for ovonics. It would seem to overlap, as all seem to refer to 'frozen' semiconducting electronic states.
Sorta makes 'Real Genius' (the movie) feel visionary, eh?
Notice that in the article he mentioned that he compiled all of the drivers from source, and found that the easier route.
This should not only encourage all those rpm weenies out there to 'use the source, luke, but it also dispells any doubts about the quality of compilation that GCC performs these days.
I find it quite amusing that an immature open source driver for a free OS, compiled with a freeware compiler can get within a twat filament's distance of the performance of products with literally billions of $$ behind them.
THAT is a hoot!
Let's not forget also that GCC is the lingua franca of portable computing. GNU tools are probably the *first* add-ons any sun, hp or aix system receives after setup, so they can actually be *used*.
"[Please note: Upon further research, I realized that my original numbers were a bit off. The numbers above are new and revised. Fred Moody,
8/4/00.]"
IE: My mail box is full of eels!
What a weasel!
But wait! It gets worse!
He *aggregates* bug reports across *all* linux distros. That's deceptive. VERY deceptive.
Redhat leads with 38 reports. Redhat also ships with just about every service you can think of turned on by default. That is still FAR shy of the 99 bugs for '99 (hmm.. coincidence?)
If we look at bugs for '00 , things look a tad better for M$. 37 for M$ vs 17 for Redhat, the *least* secure linux distro.
I run slack. I show up with zero severe security issues. That would make slack *infinitely* more secure than M$.
Moody is a moron. Case closed.
Some of my absolute favorite usenet personalities are australian, and given the groups that they post to (ASR, ATSR, CLPM, CIWAC, etc) they can wield some rather severe power as a group in their home communities.
My advice is to GDO (Geek's Day Off) the entire country for a day or two, and note the response of their brain dead politicians.
We in the west should also note carefully this astonishingly idiotic political behavior, as we have those so inclined in abundance amongst our number here.
I also seem to remember some sort of 'authoritative' rankings that consistently put it in the top 10 or 20 best scifi of all time. ...
My personal (very) fave authors have to be Brunner, Ursula Leguin, Philip K. Dick, Greg Benford, Samuel R Delany (Triton rocks! Would make a great movie! Dear lord! Who would we have to get to direct THAT? Fellini is DEAD!), Frank Herbert, The Boy and His Dog guy (sorry-brain fart... OOH! Harlan Ellison!), Bradbury of course. Heinlein is overrated, but I have enjoyed his stuff
Basically people who have never, ever, ever, ever written about elves or wizards.
Ever.
(except tounge in cheek. Niven had some fun with wizards and such on occasion, and it was a riot)
If you want entry onto how much Brunner gets it right, read Stand On Zanzibar, a work that is of a level of quality to equal or eclipse that of Dune.
I won't even attempt to describe it. Just read it. It's totally visionary.
It's also the place the term 'hipcrime' came from. That fact should have a little resonance with the more attuned denizens of this august forum.
This idea makes a hell of alot of sense to me. Always has. Clock the *results*! Purely combinatoreal (sp?) logic definitely rocks.
My personal opinion is that we (the open source community) should construct the first practical neurally optimising compiler (which would make this architecture practical) , and patent the fucker, so those parasitic capitalist bastards OUT THERE can't get their clammy hands on it.
This is DEFINITELY doable.
Ideas, anyone?
Thanks so much for mentioning The Story of Mel.
That *has* to be my absolute favorite part of the jargon file. I was just mentioning it to a bud of mine that I'm attempting to seduce away from the Dark Side. I'll shoot him the url. Hope he appreciates it.
What's WRONG with you people?
It's a semi-joke man!
( I'm a spiritual person, myself. Still! good troll, dude)
Bwahahaha! Excellent!
(High fives brilliant troll!)
Rock on!
Sorry boyz
Neurons not only respond to an *ill defined* set of rules, but they *like* them! They adapt on their own according to whatever synaptic traffic is thrown at them. There was an article on this in a VERY early dr dobbs ('76? '77?) , which did a beautiful job of describing the comm model neurons use in nature, and an analog model for same.
The big problem with true neural nets is 'seeding' them with the right initial conditions so that they converge on what you want them to do. It's a chaotic computation problem when it's pure, and that is a very hairy area. 8P
All about attractors and stuff... You have to 'train' them.
Do I make sense here?
If not; Bugger off!
I'm amazed you haven't more comment on your post!
Civil disobedience is INDEED where this war will be fought!
Let all us techies just display our middle digits rather menacingly to these fools and say:
4Q!
You want your fancy ass B2B web action? You want your corporate nets to actually WORK?
Then you can just pucker up and kiss our collective apertures, cuz boyo, we will SHUT YOU DOWN, if you don't cease and desist with this shit!
We don't work, you lose billions. GET THE FSCKING PICTURE HERE?
You have knowledge at the end. And wisdom. Resources *you* obviously NEED, in huge quantities.
SOME people like to *learn* things!
If you need 'support' for something as basic as a piece of hardware, you are indeed pathetic.
RTFM and you'll be allright! Through the night! [STR; obscure]
The problem of electricity can be dealt with via mere skin galvanism!
You touch... Your own acidity provides the power!
The way power consumption is going, mere AIR will be enough to propel most any electronic device!
Quoting out of context is the fast track to hell.
YOU LIED!
Ready yourself for the cosmic consequences.
Get a fucking grip on actual reality.
Lubricate. Liberally.
Pete.
It doesn't really take the power back, as such. It nullifies the very notion of power, It puts the field of conflict back in the hands of the 'people' to resolve it as best they can. Bloody, civilised, impoverished..
In my mind, all those options are far better than the slavery he's rebelling against.
The worst: White Boy Slavery. Which we as 'enlightened individuals' are trying to tell black america is a better option than what they have now.
When the empowered are themselves enslaved, as they are now, it is indeed time for rebellion!
Get a Usenet feed, Kidz. Read some ASR.
LEARN what whiteboy slavery is!
You'll take up the gun with chuckD to merely LESSEN your suffering!
Pete.
Anyone but me read SF here?
The thought that someone a few millenia from now should rediscover satellites, and divine a manner to communicate with them gives me a huge boner!
If they are strictly solar powered, they should *not* be taken down. Let them be hacked! Let them be commandeered! GPL the software that makes them run!
They are a resource that we all can use! For mankind's benefit!
Burning them up would be truly obscene. Offer them up to the geek world first. We'll find a use for them!
I totally agree. Frankly, I think that any wannabe admin should know both C AND some assembler, so they at least have a clue as to what what executable code leaves in its wake when it runs. Really helps. I simply cannot imagine the confusion of someone attempting to do anything meaningful with computers w/o knowing this stuff. I know I'm so glad I learned it.
Sorry if I'm horning in here, but If I remember my op amp theory right, noise buildup has a lot to do with good impedance matching, even where FET devices are involved. Noise current density is the term I seem to recall (it's been YEARS!) .02.
Current-differencing amplifiers, tweaked and biased properly, null out a lot of that noise, IIRC. High quality (film) resistors , tantalum caps for bypassing the chip power leads, careful choice of freq response of your signal-carrying caps (polyester or mylar - NEVER ceramic or electrolytic!) and good quality wire and solder, if that's what you're using for interconnects, can help too.
Just my
This is also an excellent post that soberly hits the nail on its' very head.
Let the tech folks do their jobs... PLEEZ!
They do indeed hold the keys to the tank. Let them wield them! You'll Save Money!
Geeezz...
Actually, I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
It's the holder of a trademark or servicemark who actually is obliged to defend it actively, lest it (they) fall into everyday parlance. If I'm not mistaken, that's how the word 'aspirin' became generic in the US. It's still a Bayer trademark in many other parts of the world.