All you are saying is that a chromebook/chrromebox can be repurposed as a linux box by replacing chromeos with linux, much as one might do with windows on a regular pc.
That is not at all what I am suggesting. You either have no idea what you are talking about, or you are lying through your teeth.
You are playing with semantics. With crouton the linux kernel is merely hosting two operating systems, Chrome OS and whatever desktop linux environment you installed. Crouton may be more convenient than the more traditional linux installs that removed Chrome OS but it does not change the nature of Chrome OS, it remains merely linux hosted. Being able to switch being hosted os 1 and hosted os 2 on the fly does not change this.
Have you actually even used ChromeOS? It is pretty locked-down by default, yes. You can however set it to developer mode with a key combination at boot, install crouton, and treat it like any other Linux box. Most Chromebooks will run XFCE pretty happily.
All you are saying is that a chromebook/chrromebox can be repurposed as a linux box by replacing chromeos with linux, much as one might do with windows on a regular pc. And yes I've done that, it was a pretty inexpensive route to a light-use Linux laptop that I knew would have driver support.
You have a far stronger argument in Android, but ChromeOS is Linux in every meaningful sense.
Except in the sense that the chromeos user can run any linux software. Android actually has the weaker argument, there you can install a terminal app and access the underlying Linux host.
So no, chromeos is not Linux, it is merely hosted on Linux. Two very different things.
With a little posix support in Fuchsia a bunch of Android NDK based app might not care if the Linux kernel is replaced. Certainly the far more common pure Android/Java apps would not care.
Chrome and Android are Linux hosted, much like an appliance running a Linux kernel where a user can neither see it nor access it.
That is true for most GNU/Linux distributions too. In very few of them will the user interact with the Linux kernel, nor want to.
As a user I can interact with the kernel from the console. Its standard functionality in a Linux distro. Functionality that is explicitly prohibited in Chrome. Functionality that is beyond the Android API and user interface, non-standard, but technically possible if one escapes Android and uses NDK based software.
Yes,.gov domains are highly skewed, apparently towards the wealthy as evidenced by their showing iOS as far more popular than Android while other sources show Android with about 2/3 of the mobile website browsing marketshare.
Was that 2/3 of browsing or 2/3 of sales? I recall mention of Android representing 2/3 of sales but Android users upgrade more often and that actual usage may be closer to 50/50, in the US. Internationally, yeah, Android somewhere around 80%.
And yes there is absolutely a demographic effect. Despite Android being far more numerous an iOS app will generate more revenue than its Android version. iOS users are more willing/able to spend money. In a university lecture I attended the professor also mentioned some study of Android vs iOS based on cell towers. iOS had far greater representation is "wealthier" zones.
> Chrome OS is as much Linux as Android. As in, not at all.
They are definitely Linux distros. They're just not GNU/Linux.
Chrome and Android are Linux hosted, much like an appliance running a Linux kernel where a user can neither see it nor access it. They are not Linux desktops, nor are they Linux distros. "Linux distro" and "GNU/Linux" are synonymous.
Didn't take long from Do No Evil to Anything for a Buck. I blame the MBA mentality that is in charge now.
There is no such thing as an "MBA mentality". A person who would do anything for a buck was like that before an MBA program, a person who would do good by you will still be like that after an MBA program.
An MBA program is nothing more than a series of survey courses, one to three classes in various topics. Statistics, organizational behavior, economics, accounting, operations, consumer behavior, marketing, strategy, product development, project management, business law, negotiations, information technology, etc. This does not turn an engineer into an accountant, no more than it turns an accountant into an IT person. What it does is let an engineer see things from the perspective of an accountant, a marketing person, a strategy person, etc. So that the engineer can better represent the engineering perspective to these other groups, so that the engineer can better understand the perspective of these other groups. In short, MBAs allow better communication between different fields of expertise. There is no special "mentality" installed.
Samsung issued security updates to the S4 mini in April this year, and before that November last year. Sounds like your shitty carrier is getting in the way.
As I said, a Samsung branded device is no assurance of a patch.
Not sure why you're quoting version numbers instead of manufacturer support. This isn't iOS. Most security fixes are backported to earlier versions of Android. E.g. Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 which is now 5 years old had it's most recent security update applied in February this year for both devices running 4.4/Kitkat and those which were optionally upgraded to 5/Lollipop by users.
A Samsung branded device is no assurance of a patch. I have older Galaxy S phones that have not been offered patches in years.
What percentage of Android will be patched?
The 18% with 7/Nougat or better,
the 50% with 6/Marshmallow or better,
the 78% with 5/Lollipop or better,
the 92% with 4.4/Kitkat or better? https://developer.android.com/...
Of course local laws can trump manufacturer wishes. I was referring to regions where it is not legally required, where only a minority of companies *choose* to make their warranties transferable.
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And as the Wikipedia article states later, this technology dates to 1997, and includes a link to the patent from 1998. So this is not news.
Fine, modernize the system. Replace the incandescent light bulb with a GPU mining cryptocurrency. :-)
It depends on the sampling period. Once a second, yes, once an hour, no so much. :-)
The lava lamp can’t be backdoored like that hardware can.
But the camera software can, and the image processing software can, etc.
... Apple's Lavarand wall would have both color and IR cameras. ;-)
Are the cameras visible color spectrum or IR? The former could be spoofed with a photo, no need to backdoor the software.
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All you are saying is that a chromebook/chrromebox can be repurposed as a linux box by replacing chromeos with linux, much as one might do with windows on a regular pc.
That is not at all what I am suggesting. You either have no idea what you are talking about, or you are lying through your teeth.
You are playing with semantics. With crouton the linux kernel is merely hosting two operating systems, Chrome OS and whatever desktop linux environment you installed. Crouton may be more convenient than the more traditional linux installs that removed Chrome OS but it does not change the nature of Chrome OS, it remains merely linux hosted. Being able to switch being hosted os 1 and hosted os 2 on the fly does not change this.
In short, "macs" can be a "dock" providing keyboard, mouse, local storage, display and usb connectivity. The iPhone/iPad providing the "cpu".
> As a user I can interact with the kernel from the console.
You do know the difference between a shell and a kernel, don't you?
Yes I do. You do realize that from a shell I can run utilities that reconfigure the kernel's runtime environment? That is "interaction".
Have you actually even used ChromeOS? It is pretty locked-down by default, yes. You can however set it to developer mode with a key combination at boot, install crouton, and treat it like any other Linux box. Most Chromebooks will run XFCE pretty happily.
All you are saying is that a chromebook/chrromebox can be repurposed as a linux box by replacing chromeos with linux, much as one might do with windows on a regular pc. And yes I've done that, it was a pretty inexpensive route to a light-use Linux laptop that I knew would have driver support.
You have a far stronger argument in Android, but ChromeOS is Linux in every meaningful sense.
Except in the sense that the chromeos user can run any linux software. Android actually has the weaker argument, there you can install a terminal app and access the underlying Linux host.
So no, chromeos is not Linux, it is merely hosted on Linux. Two very different things.
With a little posix support in Fuchsia a bunch of Android NDK based app might not care if the Linux kernel is replaced. Certainly the far more common pure Android/Java apps would not care.
Chrome and Android are Linux hosted, much like an appliance running a Linux kernel where a user can neither see it nor access it.
That is true for most GNU/Linux distributions too. In very few of them will the user interact with the Linux kernel, nor want to.
As a user I can interact with the kernel from the console. Its standard functionality in a Linux distro. Functionality that is explicitly prohibited in Chrome. Functionality that is beyond the Android API and user interface, non-standard, but technically possible if one escapes Android and uses NDK based software.
I've got probably 8 machines, all running Linux. This box is the only one that ever surfs.
The headless Linux boxes in the closet don't count as desktop Linux. Nor do the Raspberry Pi's doing appliance'y things. :-)
Yes, .gov domains are highly skewed, apparently towards the wealthy as evidenced by their showing iOS as far more popular than Android while other sources show Android with about 2/3 of the mobile website browsing marketshare.
Was that 2/3 of browsing or 2/3 of sales? I recall mention of Android representing 2/3 of sales but Android users upgrade more often and that actual usage may be closer to 50/50, in the US. Internationally, yeah, Android somewhere around 80%.
And yes there is absolutely a demographic effect. Despite Android being far more numerous an iOS app will generate more revenue than its Android version. iOS users are more willing/able to spend money. In a university lecture I attended the professor also mentioned some study of Android vs iOS based on cell towers. iOS had far greater representation is "wealthier" zones.
> Chrome OS is as much Linux as Android. As in, not at all.
They are definitely Linux distros. They're just not GNU/Linux.
Chrome and Android are Linux hosted, much like an appliance running a Linux kernel where a user can neither see it nor access it. They are not Linux desktops, nor are they Linux distros. "Linux distro" and "GNU/Linux" are synonymous.
Didn't take long from Do No Evil to Anything for a Buck. I blame the MBA mentality that is in charge now.
There is no such thing as an "MBA mentality". A person who would do anything for a buck was like that before an MBA program, a person who would do good by you will still be like that after an MBA program.
An MBA program is nothing more than a series of survey courses, one to three classes in various topics. Statistics, organizational behavior, economics, accounting, operations, consumer behavior, marketing, strategy, product development, project management, business law, negotiations, information technology, etc. This does not turn an engineer into an accountant, no more than it turns an accountant into an IT person. What it does is let an engineer see things from the perspective of an accountant, a marketing person, a strategy person, etc. So that the engineer can better represent the engineering perspective to these other groups, so that the engineer can better understand the perspective of these other groups. In short, MBAs allow better communication between different fields of expertise. There is no special "mentality" installed.
It doesn't matter whose fault it is. The fact remains, a Samsung branded device is no assurance of a patch.
Visit a Linux conference, planet of IT pros with Mac laptops there.
If you see one of those white opaque keyboards that followed the transparents buy it, its far better than anything Apple has offered in many years.
Samsung issued security updates to the S4 mini in April this year, and before that November last year. Sounds like your shitty carrier is getting in the way.
As I said, a Samsung branded device is no assurance of a patch.
I have a Galaxy S4, last patch was in March. I have an S5 last patch was 3 weeks ago.
Prior to that there existed no patching framework as it was only introduced in KitKat.
My S4 mini hasn't patched in years.
Not sure why you're quoting version numbers instead of manufacturer support. This isn't iOS. Most security fixes are backported to earlier versions of Android. E.g. Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 which is now 5 years old had it's most recent security update applied in February this year for both devices running 4.4/Kitkat and those which were optionally upgraded to 5/Lollipop by users.
A Samsung branded device is no assurance of a patch. I have older Galaxy S phones that have not been offered patches in years.
Android Will Be Patched Within Weeks
What percentage of Android will be patched?
The 18% with 7/Nougat or better,
the 50% with 6/Marshmallow or better,
the 78% with 5/Lollipop or better,
the 92% with 4.4/Kitkat or better?
https://developer.android.com/...
I'm ignoring the respective phablets from Apple and Google (Plus and XL) and just going with the base phones, Pixel 2 and iPhone 8, vs iPhone X.
Of course local laws can trump manufacturer wishes. I was referring to regions where it is not legally required, where only a minority of companies *choose* to make their warranties transferable.
Do they have an ugly notch at the top of the screen as well?
In the $1,000 Pixel X, they probably will :-)
I didn't want to listen to reliably music anyways.
Like Apple, wired is still an option with Google using an included adapter.
The warranty is to the item, regardless who owns it. If that is differnet in you country, you have a fucked up law system.
Its likely up to the manufacturer, not local law.
"Nontransferable: Many warranties are not transferable from the original owner. "
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