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That would be why.
Re:Quite coherent. Especially for John
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At The Crossroads
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But net is not US and even more importantly US is not the net.
Exactly. This was my thought upon reading this. I live in the U.S. and not to sound unpatriotic but the blatant egotism of some of our citizens and elected officals to think that our Net 'laws' apply to the rest of the world drives me batfsck.
I for one don't see how Net regulation of any sort will work unless we have every national gov't agree with every other national gov't on the details. No matter how extensive that nation's Net presence is.
Let's read that again.
Every national gov't must agree with every other national gov't.
One would almost expect to see a lot of South American companies on that list due to the accusations of that continent being a major supplier of drugs to the U.S. Especially Colombia.
But Hell if they did that we wouldn't get any good coffee.
That movie was on fairly recently on one of the cable networks. I remember being very pleasantly surprised at how well it followed the text of the book. And actually that can be applied to the version of 1984 featuring John Hurt as well. It's fairly ironic to see that on some things not even directors/producers feel they can improve them.
I own all of the books mentioned so far. I like to call it my Library of Sedition. If the schools here in the U.S. won't have them as required reading, I'll at least have them and will require my kids to read them carefully.
And I do mean sit down with the books and read them. The messages they contain are far too important IMHO. This is something I want my children to know. No strike that. This is something all children need to know.
Sorry no. Perhaps I wasn't clear. When i 'rip' a CD I do it from an original CD that I've purchased and using my own hardware. That file is then stored on my drive and not shared.
Whoa hold on a minute. I don't recall anyone saying that musicians shouldn't make money. I think the general response has been let's find Another Way.
As far as "I own the material." not being a valid argument well I'm sorry but it is. I for one don't see anything wrong with ripping MP3's for my own personal use as a method of backup for my investment in a CD. It's only when I distribute them that it becomes a problem. Metallica has said all along that they don't have a problem with the MP3 format per se just how it's being used.
Personally I'm on the fence for this whole issue. I see the copyright problems however I don't think banning this technology can be done. The cat is well out of the bad and is sprinting across the field. There will always be a method to distribute these files.
As someone else has in their.sig... I don't have the answer but I admire the problem.
Well put. I'd had stirrings of similar thoughts in my feeble little mind but lacked the eloquence you've demonstrated to put it down (or up).
I also toyed with the thought that some of the antagonism here is a reaction to a perception that someone is trying to halt the advance of technology. Which for this group is never going to be acceptable.
Metallica has said repeatedly that they don't have a problem with the MP3 format as a whole just how it's being used.
That being said though I still think that they are grossly misinformed (as someone else said) about what's happening. They simply don't understand.
I hope your post gets a +5 mod and makes it to the band.
I'm so disappointed in this band now. I had thought that the controversy involving the universities would have been the end of this.
They're just alienating their fans now whether they realize it or not. (I can say that because I used to be one of them... pre-Black Album anyways).
Although I'm really starting to wonder who's driving this. Is it really the band or their label? Lately they seem to have become a big cash cow for Elektra and you have to wonder.
The chat for tomorrow will probably be interesting (read: scorching). I think I'll decline to attend though.
We've had this for awhile.
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And it's actually a good thing.
Some of those whiny-ass Sims NEED to die.
It also felt really good to download the Bill Gates skin then watch him die from it. 8^)
1. No fixing of source code
2. Intercepts all function calls (yeah I know it says only the ones that are vulnerable. but it still has to check.)
3. Replaces said function call with one of it's own that does the same damned thing.
4. Will handle all existing problems PLUS any future problems that may pop up.
5. Negligible performance overhead.
Ya know... my grandfather used to tell me stories about travelling Snake Oil salesmen. I never thought I'd see one though...
Here we find ourselves back at IPv6. (Didn't we JUST do this yesterday?)
If they put an Ethernet card in this thing then imagine the drastic increase in IP's consumed by those on Cable/DSL and other assorted permanent connections.
Christ at this rate my toaster's gonna need an IP eventually.
Would I be interested in working with Pinkertons on WAVE America, or in writing for the site? Would Rob Malda perhaps like to contribute something?
Upon reading that I think we discovered the true purpose of Pinkerton's intentions regarding this meeting. You were right. It was never about morals or concern about kids' rights. It was negotiation and an attempt by them to minimize bad publicity.
If they could have gotten you to do that.. then it would have appeared that you were supporting the general nature of the program. End result: their most vocal and potentially dangerous detractor is now on board.
I don't know about anyone else, but I read that and heard a dozen or so internal alarms go off.
IMO that was the key point of the meeting for them.
Thank (insert deity of choice here) that you had the wisdom to decline.
Maybe it's just me. Maybe I've become too old and jaded.
Upon reading this, the first thing that came to my mind was "publicity stunt".
Is it so farfetched that this was a planned maneuver by the staff of IRCNet and they already know it won't accomplish a damned thing? Now they'll be able to say "IRCNet: The network that cares." or some other silly shit.
I'm sorry but I'm left with the impression that this is just a lameass ploy to try and increase their userbase in the long run.
Moderate this to Flamebait if you like but I know quite a few Admins/Opers from another IRC network and I certainly wouldn't put this sort of thing past them.
Having read all the other comments on this topic I'm willing to assume that I'm older than most of the/. population and may be able to offer a different slant on this. Exactly how old is none of your damned business.
Between my girlfriend and I we have four children with ages ranging between 11 and 18. (OK fine so do the math. You know you wanna.)
As with any situation involving individuals if I look at all of them and (try to) compare them I'm presented with four very distinct personalities. And as in any other case there are some good points and some bad points associated with each child (IMHO). This is to be expected and is "normal".
However.. this is from my perspective and not yours. You may see each child as a whacked-out psycho. (And in truth that may be open for debate.) Everyone is a product of their environment.
Any judgment (and this is really what we're talking about here. passing judgment) ultimately has to start from a personal frame of reference. And does anybody out there really think that these children are qualified and subjective enough to pass this sort of judgment on their peers?
Remembering back on my teenage years there's no way I would have been qualified to do it. And if I think back on my friends at the time it quite honestly gives me the shakes to think that they would have been given the power to place someone else under observation based merely on their own opinions. They were (and probably still are) idjits. If I include the fact that they would have been paid for it... well let's just not go there.
The bottom line is you cannot do this. I do not want the children in my family subjected to this. The 18 year old has had problems when he lived with his father. He'd dropped out, had drug problems, alcohol problems, run-ins with the law... but is/was he ever violent? No. And I can state that with the utmost certainty. However he would be a prime candidate to be turned in for this kind of thing. (He lives with us now and things are getting better. Thanks for asking.)
The last thing he needs now or ever will need is to have some Pinkerton goon (hey I'll use the term. I am not afraid.) telling him he's going to keep an eye on him for the rest of his life.
That's my and his mother's job. I'll thank the Pinkertons to stay out of our business.
Admittedly their unmanned program obviously has some problems. But let's not drag the Shuttle into this. AFAIK it's not subject to the same requirements.
At the time of the Challenger disaster I was in the US Navy performing quality control on nuclear submarine repair. A few months after the explosion I do know that NASA or some agency linked to them contacted the Navy to check the feasibility of adapting the Navy's submarine quality system for use on the Shuttle.
Whether this happened or not I'm not sure (hey I was just an enlisted flunkie. they never told us dookie) but I'm willing to believe that it did and they're now using some mutant form of the system that submarines are still currently under. At least for the Shuttle anyways.
The only drawback to that system: Ho-boy is it expensive.
But in the long run you have to decide what you want. Do you want to be absolutely sure the thing will work or do you want it to be cheap. Admittedly you can occasionally have both but it takes a great deal of luck.
When dealing with people you want it to work and be safe. Ideally at least.
Ah that brings to mind a couple drummer jokes.
Q: What's the last thing a drummer says before he gets fired? A: "Hey guys I wrote this song."
or
Q: How do you get a drummer of your front porch? A: Pay him for the pizza.
OK I'll stop now.
I remember giggling reading the Zeldman interview when he made the joke about the teal/black design of /.
Either he was pulling punches or he doesn't read the Apache and BSD topics.
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That would be why.
But net is not US and even more importantly US is not the net.
Exactly. This was my thought upon reading this. I live in the U.S. and not to sound unpatriotic but the blatant egotism of some of our citizens and elected officals to think that our Net 'laws' apply to the rest of the world drives me batfsck.
I for one don't see how Net regulation of any sort will work unless we have every national gov't agree with every other national gov't on the details. No matter how extensive that nation's Net presence is.
Let's read that again.
Every national gov't must agree with every other national gov't.
I think we're gonna be okay.
One would almost expect to see a lot of South American companies on that list due to the accusations of that continent being a major supplier of drugs to the U.S. Especially Colombia.
But Hell if they did that we wouldn't get any good coffee.
Wow would that suck or what.
Ruh roh.
I smell the makings of an upcoming /. poll from Hell...
Ah well they need probably need to stress test the new Slashcode anyways.
That movie was on fairly recently on one of the cable networks. I remember being very pleasantly surprised at how well it followed the text of the book. And actually that can be applied to the version of 1984 featuring John Hurt as well. It's fairly ironic to see that on some things not even directors/producers feel they can improve them.
I own all of the books mentioned so far. I like to call it my Library of Sedition. If the schools here in the U.S. won't have them as required reading, I'll at least have them and will require my kids to read them carefully.
And I do mean sit down with the books and read them. The messages they contain are far too important IMHO. This is something I want my children to know. No strike that. This is something all children need to know.
Sorry no. Perhaps I wasn't clear. When i 'rip' a CD I do it from an original CD that I've purchased and using my own hardware. That file is then stored on my drive and not shared.
bad = bag
(dangit)
Whoa hold on a minute. I don't recall anyone saying that musicians shouldn't make money. I think the general response has been let's find Another Way.
As far as "I own the material." not being a valid argument well I'm sorry but it is. I for one don't see anything wrong with ripping MP3's for my own personal use as a method of backup for my investment in a CD. It's only when I distribute them that it becomes a problem. Metallica has said all along that they don't have a problem with the MP3 format per se just how it's being used.
Personally I'm on the fence for this whole issue. I see the copyright problems however I don't think banning this technology can be done. The cat is well out of the bad and is sprinting across the field. There will always be a method to distribute these files.
As someone else has in their .sig... I don't have the answer but I admire the problem.
Yes well I'm just thankful we're not wearing those dreadful bell-bottomed jumpsuits they had on that show.
Holy crap were those things ugly.
Well put. I'd had stirrings of similar thoughts in my feeble little mind but lacked the eloquence you've demonstrated to put it down (or up).
I also toyed with the thought that some of the antagonism here is a reaction to a perception that someone is trying to halt the advance of technology. Which for this group is never going to be acceptable.
Metallica has said repeatedly that they don't have a problem with the MP3 format as a whole just how it's being used.
That being said though I still think that they are grossly misinformed (as someone else said) about what's happening. They simply don't understand.
I hope your post gets a +5 mod and makes it to the band.
RTF page Nid...
I'm so disappointed in this band now. I had thought that the controversy involving the universities would have been the end of this.
They're just alienating their fans now whether they realize it or not. (I can say that because I used to be one of them... pre-Black Album anyways).
Although I'm really starting to wonder who's driving this. Is it really the band or their label? Lately they seem to have become a big cash cow for Elektra and you have to wonder.
The chat for tomorrow will probably be interesting (read: scorching). I think I'll decline to attend though.
Some of those whiny-ass Sims NEED to die.
It also felt really good to download the Bill Gates skin then watch him die from it. 8^)
OK fine so I'm on self-imposed posting probation for a week.
And you're right I don't have the knowledge.. yet. But I'm learning. :)
And do you also mean to tell me that there's PORN ON THE INTERNET???
*thud*
2. Intercepts all function calls (yeah I know it says only the ones that are vulnerable. but it still has to check.)
3. Replaces said function call with one of it's own that does the same damned thing.
4. Will handle all existing problems PLUS any future problems that may pop up.
5. Negligible performance overhead.
Ya know... my grandfather used to tell me stories about travelling Snake Oil salesmen. I never thought I'd see one though...
This sounds fairly similar to a plan to invade the U.S. related to me by a Canadian friend of mine using an army of gnats.
Of course this is the same guy that was convinced the killer bees wouldn't make it to Canada because they didn't understand the metric system.
Just what in the HELL is an Attack Microbot???
If they put an Ethernet card in this thing then imagine the drastic increase in IP's consumed by those on Cable/DSL and other assorted permanent connections.
Christ at this rate my toaster's gonna need an IP eventually.
Upon reading that I think we discovered the true purpose of Pinkerton's intentions regarding this meeting. You were right. It was never about morals or concern about kids' rights. It was negotiation and an attempt by them to minimize bad publicity.
If they could have gotten you to do that.. then it would have appeared that you were supporting the general nature of the program. End result: their most vocal and potentially dangerous detractor is now on board.
I don't know about anyone else, but I read that and heard a dozen or so internal alarms go off.
IMO that was the key point of the meeting for them.
Thank (insert deity of choice here) that you had the wisdom to decline.
Upon reading this, the first thing that came to my mind was "publicity stunt".
Is it so farfetched that this was a planned maneuver by the staff of IRCNet and they already know it won't accomplish a damned thing? Now they'll be able to say "IRCNet: The network that cares." or some other silly shit.
I'm sorry but I'm left with the impression that this is just a lameass ploy to try and increase their userbase in the long run.
Moderate this to Flamebait if you like but I know quite a few Admins/Opers from another IRC network and I certainly wouldn't put this sort of thing past them.
Between my girlfriend and I we have four children with ages ranging between 11 and 18. (OK fine so do the math. You know you wanna.)
As with any situation involving individuals if I look at all of them and (try to) compare them I'm presented with four very distinct personalities. And as in any other case there are some good points and some bad points associated with each child (IMHO). This is to be expected and is "normal".
However.. this is from my perspective and not yours. You may see each child as a whacked-out psycho. (And in truth that may be open for debate.) Everyone is a product of their environment.
Any judgment (and this is really what we're talking about here. passing judgment) ultimately has to start from a personal frame of reference. And does anybody out there really think that these children are qualified and subjective enough to pass this sort of judgment on their peers?
Remembering back on my teenage years there's no way I would have been qualified to do it. And if I think back on my friends at the time it quite honestly gives me the shakes to think that they would have been given the power to place someone else under observation based merely on their own opinions. They were (and probably still are) idjits. If I include the fact that they would have been paid for it... well let's just not go there.
The bottom line is you cannot do this. I do not want the children in my family subjected to this. The 18 year old has had problems when he lived with his father. He'd dropped out, had drug problems, alcohol problems, run-ins with the law... but is/was he ever violent? No. And I can state that with the utmost certainty. However he would be a prime candidate to be turned in for this kind of thing. (He lives with us now and things are getting better. Thanks for asking.)
The last thing he needs now or ever will need is to have some Pinkerton goon (hey I'll use the term. I am not afraid.) telling him he's going to keep an eye on him for the rest of his life.
That's my and his mother's job. I'll thank the Pinkertons to stay out of our business.
Admittedly their unmanned program obviously has some problems. But let's not drag the Shuttle into this. AFAIK it's not subject to the same requirements.
At the time of the Challenger disaster I was in the US Navy performing quality control on nuclear submarine repair. A few months after the explosion I do know that NASA or some agency linked to them contacted the Navy to check the feasibility of adapting the Navy's submarine quality system for use on the Shuttle.
Whether this happened or not I'm not sure (hey I was just an enlisted flunkie. they never told us dookie) but I'm willing to believe that it did and they're now using some mutant form of the system that submarines are still currently under. At least for the Shuttle anyways.
The only drawback to that system: Ho-boy is it expensive.
But in the long run you have to decide what you want. Do you want to be absolutely sure the thing will work or do you want it to be cheap. Admittedly you can occasionally have both but it takes a great deal of luck.
When dealing with people you want it to work and be safe. Ideally at least.
IMHO did a wonderful job of exploring both subjects of nanotechnology and society-controlling AI.
And... it's just a damned good book. If you haven't read it I'd recommend it to anyone.