After thinking for a while, I understood why 'back bone' -providers don't sue spammers/spammer sites. That's because they get their money for transporting data. Any data. And it's ISP which pays, and from that individual customers. ISP's are the ones who should sue. Some big one, like AOL/MSN.
Problem is that no ISP is really international (AOL has some europe thingies..), so they can't sue shit out from our korean friends (oh yes, I did get some korean spam this week)..
As nobody seems to really understand wha is wrong with nuclear engine approach..
problem is with insane amount of energy needed at inter-planet/stellar manned mission. You just can't go without _decent_ amount of energy source. Now, that means that amount of uranium should be pretty big aboard. Now comes the bad part. Imagine this big thing exploding in stratosphere / failing last stage and dropping back on Earth. That means lot's of radioactive dust spreading through the air.
now if you remember that Kursk alone is almost causing big problems with environment, you can imagine the amount of uranium needed for spacetrip being problem..
What do you call a proper desktop windowing system?
I believe OSX you referenced at your other comment ha exactly same components as X11 has. I really believe that X11 is as intelligent as it gets. It is extensible, and so it evolves over time..
Saying that, I don't quite understand why font rendering couldn't have been switched to xrender right away, without separate support. As far as I know, application just requests 'Draw this string Z at X, Y and begone'.
If you wan't to manipulate large cunk of your window's memory 'directly' there are ways, Xshm being one..
Could you please tell me in plain words, what do you really think would make X11 better? (less chattines is known..)
Sorry, haven't used WTS, can't say a thing about it's performance.
About 'zilla though. Have you used it over WTS? how did it feel like? redraws?.
When you talk about mozilla redrawing after being 'out of view'.. It just means that Mozilla sucks at using using Expose event. I recently noticed this too, when galeon repainted it's windows serially, not getting all expose-events at a time. maybe i should file a bug or something;). usually applications keep imagemap of themselves in memory, so it's redrawn very fast.
Mozilla is an complicated applications, with loads more windows than any 'Windows' application. (all thos fucking XMLeze schnutzels).
About OSX.. you get what you pay for. These guys, Apple Engineers, had something over 5-6 years on their hands, to get this thing done. They did it full-time, and paid. Compare this to XFree86.. Their [Apple] hardware is documented and don't have to fight to support _myriads_ of different cards.
Responsiviness: This is actually a Linux (when on linux;) thing. I recently tried a preemptible kernel patch and was very surprised at snappiness (we're talking about p200 here..) of my desktop. It wasn't bad before , but oh boy was it a nice change;)
You don't seem to understand that while X11 IS network transparent, it DOES NOT use network at all when server&client are on the same machine. When C&S are at same machine, X11 uses unix sockets or something similar (probably something equal to sharing memory between processes).
And one cannot separate out that C&S approach, any serious windowing system to date uses it, even windows has it's message queues.
Network transparency is a NON-COST solution, given as bonus for a clean Client / Server separation.
I'm sorry about the way you feel about this.
You seem really convinced that XWindows sucks ass. I personally have never suffered from any lacklust performance of XFree86. au contraire, Xfree86 has always been _fast_ for me. In all ways. I can also add that I use 'the evil option' (read: windows) on daily basis. Their performance is very comparable.
For example snes9x works for me under X at same speed as in Windows. in windows it runs with OpenGL acceleration, in XFree86 it runs without acceleration at all (using 'nv' driver). Speed is roughly the same (not max, however).
I really don't understand your comment about XW's bad performance over network. I use it for running pan over network (10bT), and performance has been very, very nice. I have also ran netscape & opera over ssh link (10bT again) and they performed very well.
Please do give some real examples where Xfree86's performance is inadeguate.
Is this why the plutonium is packed inside of a sphere of some explosive? (As seen on national tv =)
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And the best thing... I dont really see how this technology could be abused. Many other implants and biotech research projects are accused of being too much sci-fi (stem cell research, organ transplants, organ growth etc). Some communities are having a hard time accepting those, because they see the risks that follows (ethical questions about life). But this seems to be more like improved glasses, and even the Pope are using those =)
Well.. technology is wonderfull:)
Possible abuses:
o infra-red enhancements -- see all the fun biological functions of anyone..
o x-ray vision enhancements -- see anything anywhere
o distance vision enhancements -- see thing far away or too small (lawyers would get less good deals because you'd be able to see the small print =)
- if this can be linked to silicon, all kind of computer-based vision enhancements would come to mind.. something in series of terminator 2;)
And if inra-red will become true, then our (yours actually, as i'm scandinavian already;) standards of privacy (physical) will change very, very much as bodily functions will become transparent to anyone. Pretty much the same as nudism. I personally believe that it will enbetter society, and removes possibility for several perversions.. but that's MHO.
From what i've heard it sounds pretty much like *BSD's ports system. You know about it?
I think at the moment Debian (which I use) has problem with binaries being compiled for 386 only. And that sucks;). I did saw a project to pentiumize debian, but unfortunately lost it's link =P
Anyway, good luck packaging!
Altogether, I think neither rpm nor deb/apt have really solved the packaging and system update problem completely yet. They are both rather imperfect solutions, each with their own advantages and disadvantages.
Out of pure interest.. Would you like to share with us what should THE NextGen packaging tool include?
1) my bad;)
24 inch should be (if i calculated right..) about 7 inches short of 31inch standard paperback.. And that is pretty readable already. And if they'd make it with better contrast than say Palm, then I'd be first in line to buy one..
2) I still don't understand why they can't develop such things concurrently. If they say that they can make it 24inc, at 64dpi, then I'd bet they have enough technology to buffer some bits off serial connection and use then parallel conection. It's not that expencive, at least not for 1st generation of these devices.
24inch means ~(5inch).. that's 25*25 cm, pretty big one.
I _really_ don't understand what you are saying about serial connection because, what the hell, would they develop a monitor-style device without connection at all? and that even if they'd use parallel connection, is it that hard to implement some sort of buffering? This really doesn't make any sense.
Umm, you are totally wrong under almost all assumptions.
* The NVidia drivers have been totally unwavering stable for me, and I have been using them for over 8 months. This I CANNOT say for previous XFree drivers I have used.
Well, that's nice and dandy for you but I cannot say the same. All the latest NVIDIA driver releases have crashed my machine in under 2 hours when using Opera/Konqueror (weirdly galeon doesn't crash.).
And my machine isn't even VIA! it's just normal 440GX board with nothing really new/unsupported.
one thing I don't see being compared, is visual quality in 2D, I mean those pesky RF filters. All I can say about it is that my GF2 SUCK deep. I'd change it for Matrox Millennium I if I could get some more memory into it!
He said that a good test of ice cream was whether it floated in water. Good ice cream should be dense enough to sink. I guess this is due to the high fat content. Of course once you put it in water, it is no longer good ice cream, right?
once upon a time there was a time when I and my gf didn't know eachother very well, well, basically we were dating. So, to make long story short, once we bought a packet of cheapo ice-cream (1kg, banana-chocolate). Well, at that night we couldn't eat it till the end.. so we desided to dump it. Into toilet.
Guess what? It didn't go down. That brick'o'**hit floated there. I read a short prayer upån it's soul, and we went to bed. In the morning it was all melted and went down beautifully.
At least Abuse had LISP scripting abilities. There's also some tools for 3d in scheme, but I can't seem to find it right now. And sawfish has backend of scheme. Emacs is written in emacs lisp. etc etc..
It still amazes me the # of users of my websites that still use modems. We are now planning to install mod_gzip for Apache to help modem users download our larger pages faster. It didn't seem worth it at first with folks moving to broadband, but we still found many of our users listing 'modem' as their primary access method when they register. Plus it'll reduce our bandwidth demand for users who have broadband - they'll get larger files faster too. Yeah, it adds overhead on teh server CPU, but for us its worth it since we have headroom to spare.
It still amazas me how rare people understand this issue. mod_gzip wille worsen your modem-user's experience. Because you see, all modems up from 28.8 already pack all the data they send. And the algorithms used there are sometimes much better than those of gzip & bz2. So when they try to pack mod_gzip:ed stream, it's pretty much like trying to pack random data, it doesn't work.
So please do them a favor and just reduce overall weight of your sites. Go to PNG & JPEG, reduce colors, optimize thos PNG's. Clean HTML.
mod_gzip will reduce load on your site, though (bandwidth). Also Net's backbone will get some extra bw.
Well, that's true and it's not true. There is no doubt that modern Intel design borrowed some tricks from RISC architectures, but RISC itself ("Reduced Instruction Set Computer") refers to making a processor fast by reducing the instruction set in order to gain speed through simplicity of the core.
It's not just "simplicity" of the core, it also has to do with relative timings of instructions. Granted, when instructions get real short (5-bit..), then processor is likely to start getting hazards in pipeline where it can't reshuffle instructions. So "not-short-and-not-too-long" instruction is best performing in traditional pipeline design.
This idea has basically failed. You would think that a simpler architecture would allow much higher clock speeds, but it didn't happen.
Incidently, Intel has used microcode since (I think) the 486 (386?). Microcode and RISC instruction sets are two different concepts.
Microcode came with IA32 aka P6. Microcode and RISC relate in X86 very closely, without microcode P6 couldn't work as X86 it is.
Consider what Intel is making with Itanium, it's really a very RISC:ish system, they make compiler do all the optimizations for them.
I remember back in the early 90s everyone kept talking about how RISC was going to kick Intel's ass for these very reasons: they would never be able to overcome the limitations of having to support backward compatibility. Yet, they are still standing, and RISC's advantages are very small in real terms
HAH! the P6 arch is RISC! There are really few instructions that current P2/P3 processor completes fast, it's optimized for most common case (nothing wrong with that), but all those "left-over" instructions left from previous years of X86's, are emulated in microcode. The CORE of all P6 processors is superscalar RISC.
Alpha's are like 1960's muscle cars. They're fast, but only because of the brute force under the hood. X86 machines are sleek and smoothe like a Porche because they use brilliant engineering and specialised extensions like SSE. I'll take the Porche over the outdated horsepower any day.
I think you really don't know what you are talking of. Alpha is the Brilliantly designed porsche. The X86 is HORRIBLE bastard son of intel, on that agrees anyone who has had even slightest exposure to that arch.
Yes, SSE, MMX, etc. give X86 some advantage, but Alpha already has them! MMX is basically 64 bit adder alpha has from starts.
What has Windows got to do with anything? We are talking about Unix platforms here, whatever software QT does or doesn't write, or the license they release it under, is completely irrelevant to this debate.
(Okay, I'm not exactly sure about this..)
Windows is closed source. Solaris is closed source. The wording of Qt license was in spirit of "may be used for free for OSS under open-source OS's".
So that could mean that it's not available on Sun to be used under GPL'esque terms..
IANALL, and that sound pretty much like total misunderstanding..
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Oh, you want FOUR words. Well this generation can't count that high.
After thinking for a while, I understood why 'back bone' -providers don't sue spammers/spammer sites. That's because they get their money for transporting data. Any data. And it's ISP which pays, and from that individual customers. ISP's are the ones who should sue. Some big one, like AOL/MSN.
Problem is that no ISP is really international (AOL has some europe thingies..), so they can't sue shit out from our korean friends (oh yes, I did get some korean spam this week)..
As nobody seems to really understand wha is wrong with nuclear engine approach..
problem is with insane amount of energy needed at inter-planet/stellar manned mission. You just can't go without _decent_ amount of energy source. Now, that means that amount of uranium should be pretty big aboard. Now comes the bad part.
Imagine this big thing exploding in stratosphere / failing last stage and dropping back on Earth. That means lot's of radioactive dust spreading through the air.
now if you remember that Kursk alone is almost causing big problems with environment, you can imagine the amount of uranium needed for spacetrip being problem..
What do you call a proper desktop windowing system?
I believe OSX you referenced at your other comment ha exactly same components as X11 has. I really believe that X11 is as intelligent as it gets. It is extensible, and so it evolves over time..
Saying that, I don't quite understand why font rendering couldn't have been switched to xrender right away, without separate support. As far as I know, application just requests 'Draw this string Z at X, Y and begone'.
If you wan't to manipulate large cunk of your window's memory 'directly' there are ways, Xshm being one..
Could you please tell me in plain words, what do you really think would make X11 better? (less chattines is known..)
Sorry, haven't used WTS, can't say a thing about it's performance. ;). usually applications keep imagemap of themselves in memory, so it's redrawn very fast.
;) thing. I recently tried a preemptible kernel patch and was very surprised at snappiness (we're talking about p200 here..) of my desktop. It wasn't bad before , but oh boy was it a nice change ;)
About 'zilla though. Have you used it over WTS? how did it feel like? redraws?.
When you talk about mozilla redrawing after being 'out of view'.. It just means that Mozilla sucks at using using Expose event. I recently noticed this too, when galeon repainted it's windows serially, not getting all expose-events at a time. maybe i should file a bug or something
Mozilla is an complicated applications, with loads more windows than any 'Windows' application. (all thos fucking XMLeze schnutzels).
About OSX.. you get what you pay for. These guys, Apple Engineers, had something over 5-6 years on their hands, to get this thing done. They did it full-time, and paid. Compare this to XFree86.. Their [Apple] hardware is documented and don't have to fight to support _myriads_ of different cards.
Responsiviness: This is actually a Linux (when on linux
Cheers!
You don't seem to understand that while X11 IS network transparent, it DOES NOT use network at all when server&client are on the same machine. When C&S are at same machine, X11 uses unix sockets or something similar (probably something equal to sharing memory between processes).
And one cannot separate out that C&S approach, any serious windowing system to date uses it, even windows has it's message queues.
Network transparency is a NON-COST solution, given as bonus for a clean Client / Server separation.
Cheers!
I'm sorry about the way you feel about this.
You seem really convinced that XWindows sucks ass. I personally have never suffered from any lacklust performance of XFree86. au contraire, Xfree86 has always been _fast_ for me. In all ways. I can also add that I use 'the evil option' (read: windows) on daily basis. Their performance is very comparable.
For example snes9x works for me under X at same speed as in Windows. in windows it runs with OpenGL acceleration, in XFree86 it runs without acceleration at all (using 'nv' driver). Speed is roughly the same (not max, however).
I really don't understand your comment about XW's bad performance over network. I use it for running pan over network (10bT), and performance has been very, very nice. I have also ran netscape & opera over ssh link (10bT again) and they performed very well.
Please do give some real examples where Xfree86's performance is inadeguate.
Is this why the plutonium is packed inside of a sphere of some explosive? (As seen on national tv =)
And the best thing... I dont really see how this technology could be abused. Many other implants and biotech research projects are accused of being too much sci-fi (stem cell research, organ transplants, organ growth etc). Some communities are having a hard time accepting those, because they see the risks that follows (ethical questions about life). But this seems to be more like improved glasses, and even the Pope are using those =)
:)
;)
;) standards of privacy (physical) will change very, very much as bodily functions will become transparent to anyone. Pretty much the same as nudism. I personally believe that it will enbetter society, and removes possibility for several perversions.. but that's MHO.
Well.. technology is wonderfull
Possible abuses:
o infra-red enhancements -- see all the fun biological functions of anyone..
o x-ray vision enhancements -- see anything anywhere
o distance vision enhancements -- see thing far away or too small (lawyers would get less good deals because you'd be able to see the small print =)
- if this can be linked to silicon, all kind of computer-based vision enhancements would come to mind.. something in series of terminator 2
And if inra-red will become true, then our (yours actually, as i'm scandinavian already
From what i've heard it sounds pretty much like *BSD's ports system. You know about it?
;). I did saw a project to pentiumize debian, but unfortunately lost it's link =P
I think at the moment Debian (which I use) has problem with binaries being compiled for 386 only. And that sucks
Anyway, good luck packaging!
Altogether, I think neither rpm nor deb/apt have really solved the packaging and system update problem completely yet. They are both rather imperfect solutions, each with their own advantages and disadvantages.
Out of pure interest.. Would you like to share with us what should THE NextGen packaging tool include?
1) my bad ;)
24 inch should be (if i calculated right..) about 7 inches short of 31inch standard paperback.. And that is pretty readable already. And if they'd make it with better contrast than say Palm, then I'd be first in line to buy one..
2) I still don't understand why they can't develop such things concurrently. If they say that they can make it 24inc, at 64dpi, then I'd bet they have enough technology to buffer some bits off serial connection and use then parallel conection. It's not that expencive, at least not for 1st generation of these devices.
24inch means ~(5inch).. that's 25*25 cm, pretty big one.
I _really_ don't understand what you are saying about serial connection because, what the hell, would they develop a monitor-style device without connection at all? and that even if they'd use parallel connection, is it that hard to implement some sort of buffering? This really doesn't make any sense.
Umm, you are totally wrong under almost all assumptions. * The NVidia drivers have been totally unwavering stable for me, and I have been using them for over 8 months. This I CANNOT say for previous XFree drivers I have used.
Well, that's nice and dandy for you but I cannot say the same. All the latest NVIDIA driver releases have crashed my machine in under 2 hours when using Opera/Konqueror (weirdly galeon doesn't crash.).
And my machine isn't even VIA! it's just normal 440GX board with nothing really new/unsupported.
one thing I don't see being compared, is visual quality in 2D, I mean those pesky RF filters. All I can say about it is that my GF2 SUCK deep. I'd change it for Matrox Millennium I if I could get some more memory into it!
He said that a good test of ice cream was whether it floated in water. Good ice cream should be dense enough to sink. I guess this is due to the high fat content. Of course once you put it in water, it is no longer good ice cream, right?
once upon a time there was a time when I and my gf didn't know eachother very well, well, basically we were dating. So, to make long story short, once we bought a packet of cheapo ice-cream (1kg, banana-chocolate). Well, at that night we couldn't eat it till the end.. so we desided to dump it. Into toilet.
Guess what? It didn't go down. That brick'o'**hit floated there. I read a short prayer upån it's soul, and we went to bed. In the morning it was all melted and went down beautifully.
And the moral of the story?
you tell me some.
And don't forget to edit /etc/fstab to ext3 instead of ext2.
2)I also live in a cold climate. There would be nothing odd with someone being bundled up with a ski mask on making use of an ATM...
I used to live in poor country, there was nothing odd with someone being bundled up with a ski mask on making use of an ATM...
At least Abuse had LISP scripting abilities. There's also some tools for 3d in scheme, but I can't seem to find it right now. And sawfish has backend of scheme. Emacs is written in emacs lisp. etc etc..
It still amazes me the # of users of my websites that still use modems. We are now planning to install mod_gzip for Apache to help modem users download our larger pages faster. It didn't seem worth it at first with folks moving to broadband, but we still found many of our users listing 'modem' as their primary access method when they register. Plus it'll reduce our bandwidth demand for users who have broadband - they'll get larger files faster too. Yeah, it adds overhead on teh server CPU, but for us its worth it since we have headroom to spare.
It still amazas me how rare people understand this issue. mod_gzip wille worsen your modem-user's experience. Because you see, all modems up from 28.8 already pack all the data they send. And the algorithms used there are sometimes much better than those of gzip & bz2. So when they try to pack mod_gzip:ed stream, it's pretty much like trying to pack random data, it doesn't work.
So please do them a favor and just reduce overall weight of your sites. Go to PNG & JPEG, reduce colors, optimize thos PNG's. Clean HTML.
mod_gzip will reduce load on your site, though (bandwidth). Also Net's backbone will get some extra bw.
Well, that's true and it's not true. There is no doubt that modern Intel design borrowed some tricks from RISC architectures, but RISC itself ("Reduced Instruction Set Computer") refers to making a processor fast by reducing the instruction set in order to gain speed through simplicity of the core.
It's not just "simplicity" of the core, it also has to do with relative timings of instructions. Granted, when instructions get real short (5-bit..), then processor is likely to start getting hazards in pipeline where it can't reshuffle instructions. So "not-short-and-not-too-long" instruction is best performing in traditional pipeline design.
This idea has basically failed. You would think that a simpler architecture would allow much higher clock speeds, but it didn't happen. Incidently, Intel has used microcode since (I think) the 486 (386?). Microcode and RISC instruction sets are two different concepts.
Microcode came with IA32 aka P6. Microcode and RISC relate in X86 very closely, without microcode P6 couldn't work as X86 it is.
Consider what Intel is making with Itanium, it's really a very RISC:ish system, they make compiler do all the optimizations for them.
I remember back in the early 90s everyone kept talking about how RISC was going to kick Intel's ass for these very reasons: they would never be able to overcome the limitations of having to support backward compatibility. Yet, they are still standing, and RISC's advantages are very small in real terms
HAH! the P6 arch is RISC! There are really few instructions that current P2/P3 processor completes fast, it's optimized for most common case (nothing wrong with that), but all those "left-over" instructions left from previous years of X86's, are emulated in microcode. The CORE of all P6 processors is superscalar RISC.
Alpha's are like 1960's muscle cars. They're fast, but only because of the brute force under the hood. X86 machines are sleek and smoothe like a Porche because they use brilliant engineering and specialised extensions like SSE. I'll take the Porche over the outdated horsepower any day.
I think you really don't know what you are talking of. Alpha is the Brilliantly designed porsche. The X86 is HORRIBLE bastard son of intel, on that agrees anyone who has had even slightest exposure to that arch.
Yes, SSE, MMX, etc. give X86 some advantage, but Alpha already has them! MMX is basically 64 bit adder alpha has from starts.
I had just finished downloading the athlon xp 1800 yesterday. Great now I have to download the new one over my 28.8k modem :/
0 0-2-xp1900.tgz. Worked for me..
I think you wanna try http://www.amd.com/updates/last-minute/patch-xp18
What has Windows got to do with anything? We are talking about Unix platforms here, whatever software QT does or doesn't write, or the license they release it under, is completely irrelevant to this debate.
(Okay, I'm not exactly sure about this..)
Windows is closed source. Solaris is closed source. The wording of Qt license was in spirit of "may be used for free for OSS under open-source OS's".
So that could mean that it's not available on Sun to be used under GPL'esque terms..
IANALL, and that sound pretty much like total misunderstanding..
How many open-source WINDOWS Qt Applications have you seen lately? Cause I've seen totally 0, none, nada. Qt license is free only for linux/bsd OSS.
And this is bad how?
At what point did I say it was bad? I merely implied that Sun maybe is NOT willing to pay to TT for Qt, when there's GTK+ & gtk-- available for free.
An Solaris is closed source (which you can get, but still) so it's status with Qt isn't that sure.
Again, IANALL.