There is no common use of the phrase "reductio ad absurdum"
And yes, my argument would be a straw man, if I had actually meant to argue anything. I simply wanted to point what I saw as an improper use of the phrase.
Just because it has absurd in the title doesn't make it support your statement...
Reductio ad absurdum is method of proof where you assume the opposite of what you are trying to prove and shows that it leads to a logical contradiction, such as both A and not A.
Hyperbole in arguments makes them absurd, but not in the logical reductio sense.
Agreed. Wikileaks is glad to do such... propaganda. From the NYT article:
"The site is not shy about its intent to shape media coverage, and Mr. Assange (the founder) said he considered himself both a journalist and an advocate; should he be forced to choose one, he would choose advocate.
Watch the 38 minute video, the 17 minute video plays down the existence of the RPG. Look at 18:56 and 32:33
Wikileaks is glad to use propaganda. From the times article:
"The site is not shy about its intent to shape media coverage, and Mr. Assange (the founder) said he considered himself both a journalist and an advocate; should he be forced to choose one, he would choose advocate.
Watch the full video 38 min not 17 min! It shows a lot more than the propaganda that wikileaks wants you to hear. From the times article
"The site is not shy about its intent to shape media coverage, and Mr. Assange (the founder) said he considered himself both a journalist and an advocate; should he be forced to choose one, he would choose advocate.
First of all, you hear the soldiers on the ground talk about finding a live RPG shell, along with AK-47s at the site. Second, the helicopter was not 1km away, there were two copters, which explains why the sound of firing doesn't always match up with the flashes on the ground from the bullets. Thirdly, it was not an ambulance, it was basically a taxi. Who he was helping is up for debate. And finally, most importantly, the US military had been under fire early that day; the helicopter was providing support to the ground troops
I, personally, had vista the January it came out, with no problems except for a hibernate bug. This minor annoyance was fixed in a service pack a few months later. I am completely happy with it
I think some people's experience with vista wasn't as good as mine, but thats how it goes. This story just illustrates that people like this guy exacerbated vista's bad rep to the point where everyone expected a bad experience.
Mod up.
Its funny how everyone here complains about the stupidity of child porn laws. Then, when there is a chance to nail someone with child porn charges, whose actions had nothing to with child porn, everyone wants them to be crucified as pedophiles.
Well you don't know very much then. Lets see what early 20th century physicists published landmark papers in Nature: Rontgen, Chadwick, Meitner, Davisson...
Nope these guys never did any real science, just stamp collectors all
That is an absolutely silly idea, that identical test scores means identical potential. First of all, after a certain amount, the scores are nearly identical. With the way the tests are graded, one question can be the difference between a 760 and an 800 on the SAT. Can you really say that the person who got the 800 SAT is better? Too many qualities outside of a test need to be considered. What if the 760 grew up in an inner city neighborhood, and was working 2 jobs in highschool to support his single parent? An essay is a perfect opportunity to explain the circumstances of what makes you you and what you have to offer.
Drive, ambition, ideals, character, motivation are all important characteristics in the admissions process at a place at MIT, and they look for people with more than just good test scores. They know that the same test scores can belong to two widely different people-maybe even one they want and one they don't.
I agree. Have mandatory "classics" to read, but have the students read a number of novels of their own choice to write a report on (or even explain to the rest of class as a final project). A great way to go about this is to create a list of "eligible" books that are of the level you are considering and let the students choose. That way, nobody is forced to read something they truly don't want, and the students can explore if they so choose. I had a teacher who let us do this in high school and it was unbelievable how many more students read their books instead of using cliff notes, and how many enjoyed the process.
The only potential problem is that the teacher needs to have read most of the books to adequately grade the reports. (or just decrease the size of the lists)
Minor point: we did not have "war to help them out," helping them out was a side effect of the war. Before (and during most) of WWII, the extent of the holocaust was unknown and what was known was largely disregarded.
Yeah and she drank a potion to make herself appear dead in order to run away from her family. When that failed she killed herself.
Perfect example of a very intelligent and mature 14 year old...
I don't know what school you went to, but I've only seen standard analog clocks in every school building I've been in. Heck even most office buildings that I've seen still have analog clocks.
An active effort to dumb-down America? I call bullshit. Do you have any evidence for that besides the fact that Fox News says stupid things?
It seems to me that a widespread brain leak has been occurring in most of the western world, where science has lost the popularity it had gained (somewhat) during the 60s. A few weeks ago NPR was talking about a train going through Germany trying to get kids interested in science. The founder is very concerned about the slow degradation of GERMAN intelligence and interest in science. We aren't the only ones with this problem
Screw apologies, I only want Turing to be recognized, by the state, for his achievements. Sure he was wronged but he is dead now. However, getting him knighted would be a huge in
1)informing more people about his contributions
2)making sure his contributions will never be forgotten
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And yes, my argument would be a straw man, if I had actually meant to argue anything. I simply wanted to point what I saw as an improper use of the phrase.
Just because it has absurd in the title doesn't make it support your statement... Reductio ad absurdum is method of proof where you assume the opposite of what you are trying to prove and shows that it leads to a logical contradiction, such as both A and not A. Hyperbole in arguments makes them absurd, but not in the logical reductio sense.
wrong war. that was WWII, not WWI
Watch the 38 minute video, the 17 minute video plays down the existence of the RPG. Look at 18:56 and 32:33. The troops on the ground find the RPG.
"The site is not shy about its intent to shape media coverage, and Mr. Assange (the founder) said he considered himself both a journalist and an advocate; should he be forced to choose one, he would choose advocate.
"The site is not shy about its intent to shape media coverage, and Mr. Assange (the founder) said he considered himself both a journalist and an advocate; should he be forced to choose one, he would choose advocate.
"The site is not shy about its intent to shape media coverage, and Mr. Assange (the founder) said he considered himself both a journalist and an advocate; should he be forced to choose one, he would choose advocate.
First of all, you hear the soldiers on the ground talk about finding a live RPG shell, along with AK-47s at the site. Second, the helicopter was not 1km away, there were two copters, which explains why the sound of firing doesn't always match up with the flashes on the ground from the bullets. Thirdly, it was not an ambulance, it was basically a taxi. Who he was helping is up for debate. And finally, most importantly, the US military had been under fire early that day; the helicopter was providing support to the ground troops
I, personally, had vista the January it came out, with no problems except for a hibernate bug. This minor annoyance was fixed in a service pack a few months later. I am completely happy with it I think some people's experience with vista wasn't as good as mine, but thats how it goes. This story just illustrates that people like this guy exacerbated vista's bad rep to the point where everyone expected a bad experience.
According to some, the only action the school took was to inform the student's parents, which is a perfectly reasonable course of action
Thanks for your post. Links would be helpful, but assuming your sources reported facts, this story makes complete sense now.
Mod up. Its funny how everyone here complains about the stupidity of child porn laws. Then, when there is a chance to nail someone with child porn charges, whose actions had nothing to with child porn, everyone wants them to be crucified as pedophiles.
If you read the linked court documents, the plaintiff says that the school did not tell anyone that the laptops would be monitored
FIRST~
Slashdot is like Playboy- nobody reads it for the articles.
Science of course! Pretty graphs never lie!
Well you don't know very much then. Lets see what early 20th century physicists published landmark papers in Nature: Rontgen, Chadwick, Meitner, Davisson...
Nope these guys never did any real science, just stamp collectors all
That is an absolutely silly idea, that identical test scores means identical potential. First of all, after a certain amount, the scores are nearly identical. With the way the tests are graded, one question can be the difference between a 760 and an 800 on the SAT. Can you really say that the person who got the 800 SAT is better? Too many qualities outside of a test need to be considered. What if the 760 grew up in an inner city neighborhood, and was working 2 jobs in highschool to support his single parent? An essay is a perfect opportunity to explain the circumstances of what makes you you and what you have to offer. Drive, ambition, ideals, character, motivation are all important characteristics in the admissions process at a place at MIT, and they look for people with more than just good test scores. They know that the same test scores can belong to two widely different people-maybe even one they want and one they don't.
If they had been clever, it would have been Joint Services Protocol 404. No one can find THAT file, let alone leak it
I agree. Have mandatory "classics" to read, but have the students read a number of novels of their own choice to write a report on (or even explain to the rest of class as a final project). A great way to go about this is to create a list of "eligible" books that are of the level you are considering and let the students choose. That way, nobody is forced to read something they truly don't want, and the students can explore if they so choose. I had a teacher who let us do this in high school and it was unbelievable how many more students read their books instead of using cliff notes, and how many enjoyed the process. The only potential problem is that the teacher needs to have read most of the books to adequately grade the reports. (or just decrease the size of the lists)
Minor point: we did not have "war to help them out," helping them out was a side effect of the war. Before (and during most) of WWII, the extent of the holocaust was unknown and what was known was largely disregarded.
Yeah and she drank a potion to make herself appear dead in order to run away from her family. When that failed she killed herself. Perfect example of a very intelligent and mature 14 year old...
I don't know what school you went to, but I've only seen standard analog clocks in every school building I've been in. Heck even most office buildings that I've seen still have analog clocks.
An active effort to dumb-down America? I call bullshit. Do you have any evidence for that besides the fact that Fox News says stupid things? It seems to me that a widespread brain leak has been occurring in most of the western world, where science has lost the popularity it had gained (somewhat) during the 60s. A few weeks ago NPR was talking about a train going through Germany trying to get kids interested in science. The founder is very concerned about the slow degradation of GERMAN intelligence and interest in science. We aren't the only ones with this problem
Screw apologies, I only want Turing to be recognized, by the state, for his achievements. Sure he was wronged but he is dead now. However, getting him knighted would be a huge in 1)informing more people about his contributions 2)making sure his contributions will never be forgotten