/. is not representative for genpop. My take is that if there were no telemetry components, the whole thing would have been a lot smoother than it was.
It's a very complex ecosystem. Generally, the benefits of the many outweigh the "sacrifice" of the few. For every machine negatively affected by a forced update, there's a million which benefited from it. Unfortunately, that million machines don't yell "fault!" like that one which messed up does.
Yes, Microsoft were too aggressive with pushing people towards updating to Windows 10, and they should have toned it down. But ultimately, it was not the "upgrade push" which pissed people off, but the whole telemetry debacle. People were turning updates off and messing with hidden Windows setting because of telemetry, not security updates. Problem is, Microsoft pushed back and started mixing security updates with telemetry, then people pushed back and turned updates off altogether, etc. It was, and still is, a general cat fight.
I was never worried about a few machines coughing up during an automating update. Serious businesses should have internal update QA and separate WSUS servers. genpop users usually don't have really expensive stuff on their machines, and if they do, they should at least afford paying someone knowledgeable to help them with their setup in such a way they won't lose but a couple hours if an update fails. What I (and pretty much everyone with a bit of IT knowledge) was worried about was the telemetry additions, which really should have been opt-in since day 1.
FMCGs are relatively cheap and get consumed fast. Power, gas, bread, tobacco and soda are good examples. TVs are in the "durable goods" category, despite your complaint (I agree they don't last as long as they used to, but still).
Point is, TVs are not "fast moving" goods unless their expected lifespan is measured in days....or if you drop them from the top of a high rise but that's just stretching the definition:)
You cannot ask for money for a service that you're expected to offer for free, being colleagues and all. A co-worker is not your customer and there's no contract requesting that person to pay for the "privilege" of communicating with you. This is similar to me putting a road block in the middle of a road and asking for money to allow passage. it's not my road, it's not my right, it's illegal.
A lawyer might shed more light on this, but really, if you think about it, why isn't everyone doing it already? The answer is: it's not allowed.
Yeah, it's like looking at how dolphins stay underwater for extended periods of time and then implement the same technique on humans. TL;DR: it won't work. Apples and oranges.
Dunno about that, depends on culture I guess. Where i'm from, people are more traditional and stick to a brand forever, which is stupid but that's how people are.
No, vaping devices are designed to be safe as well, if purchased from legit places, not fake and handled as they are supposed to be handled. Just like ordnance and everything else, really.
Well it happens to think that Rogue One is worth 23 bucks, and I am going to buy it. However, it's pretty much the ONLY movie I'm considering buying since... I dunno, quite a few years ago. Music? I stream online radio, the type of music I listen to is largely unavailable or very costly to obtain in physical form (P&P and some providers don't send to my country). As for software and games, I stopped pirating them a decade ago (when my income finally reached levels where I stopped worrying about what am I going to eat the next day).
Maybe you could give them some leeway. What they actually see could be an artificial satellite zooming by, it's just that those people don't know what they are looking at and make assumptions.
That's irrelevant. If you would have to pay a dollar extra per year to save some people, would you be willing to do it? Besides, it's all a point-of-view discussion. If you're the one being sick, your view on how it should be radically changes.
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/. is not representative for genpop.
My take is that if there were no telemetry components, the whole thing would have been a lot smoother than it was.
It's a very complex ecosystem. Generally, the benefits of the many outweigh the "sacrifice" of the few.
For every machine negatively affected by a forced update, there's a million which benefited from it. Unfortunately, that million machines don't yell "fault!" like that one which messed up does.
Yes, Microsoft were too aggressive with pushing people towards updating to Windows 10, and they should have toned it down. But ultimately, it was not the "upgrade push" which pissed people off, but the whole telemetry debacle. People were turning updates off and messing with hidden Windows setting because of telemetry, not security updates. Problem is, Microsoft pushed back and started mixing security updates with telemetry, then people pushed back and turned updates off altogether, etc. It was, and still is, a general cat fight.
I was never worried about a few machines coughing up during an automating update. Serious businesses should have internal update QA and separate WSUS servers. genpop users usually don't have really expensive stuff on their machines, and if they do, they should at least afford paying someone knowledgeable to help them with their setup in such a way they won't lose but a couple hours if an update fails. What I (and pretty much everyone with a bit of IT knowledge) was worried about was the telemetry additions, which really should have been opt-in since day 1.
There's a difference between proactive support and reactive support.
Millennials don't mourn shit.
It's the previous gen which do.
(I do but to a lesser extent)
FMCGs are relatively cheap and get consumed fast. Power, gas, bread, tobacco and soda are good examples.
TVs are in the "durable goods" category, despite your complaint (I agree they don't last as long as they used to, but still).
Point is, TVs are not "fast moving" goods unless their expected lifespan is measured in days. ...or if you drop them from the top of a high rise but that's just stretching the definition :)
Since when, exactly, are flat-screen TVs "fast moving" consumer goods?
You cannot ask for money for a service that you're expected to offer for free, being colleagues and all.
A co-worker is not your customer and there's no contract requesting that person to pay for the "privilege" of communicating with you.
This is similar to me putting a road block in the middle of a road and asking for money to allow passage. it's not my road, it's not my right, it's illegal.
A lawyer might shed more light on this, but really, if you think about it, why isn't everyone doing it already? The answer is: it's not allowed.
This method is illegal in many countries, by the way.
Yeah, it's like looking at how dolphins stay underwater for extended periods of time and then implement the same technique on humans.
TL;DR: it won't work. Apples and oranges.
Dunno about that, depends on culture I guess. Where i'm from, people are more traditional and stick to a brand forever, which is stupid but that's how people are.
who just wants the same shit in their fridge all the time, rain or shine, whether they are home or not...
Sadly, a shit ton of people do.
They're generally called "Average Joe".
..."how I've grown to hate my wife."
The book was fucking awesome though.
No, vaping devices are designed to be safe as well, if purchased from legit places, not fake and handled as they are supposed to be handled. Just like ordnance and everything else, really.
If I drink alcohol that affects you how exactly, long as I don't drive (or post, I guess).
You gotta be kidding...
https://www.ncadd.org/about-ad...
All medicine which goes into your body through a nebulizer kills shit and is good to inhale into your body.
You must have a very limited circle of acquaintances.
I know vapers of all ages, from 18 to 80, quite literally.
"I'll never be friends with a vaper" makes you sound retarded, because the reason you provide is retarded.
So... they should remove all ordnance from the ship as well.
All videos now play as dark rectangles and all audio is brown noise.
No I am not.
I live in Romania.
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Not everyone's from the mighty US of A.
Well it happens to think that Rogue One is worth 23 bucks, and I am going to buy it. However, it's pretty much the ONLY movie I'm considering buying since... I dunno, quite a few years ago.
Music? I stream online radio, the type of music I listen to is largely unavailable or very costly to obtain in physical form (P&P and some providers don't send to my country).
As for software and games, I stopped pirating them a decade ago (when my income finally reached levels where I stopped worrying about what am I going to eat the next day).
"My religion does not allow me to watch movies".
Next question please.
Maybe you could give them some leeway. What they actually see could be an artificial satellite zooming by, it's just that those people don't know what they are looking at and make assumptions.
https://www.spaceanswers.com/a...
That's irrelevant.
If you would have to pay a dollar extra per year to save some people, would you be willing to do it?
Besides, it's all a point-of-view discussion. If you're the one being sick, your view on how it should be radically changes.