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Slashdot Asks: What's Your Favorite Sci-Fi Movie?

Many say it's the golden age of science fiction cinema. And rightly so, every month, we have a couple of movies that bend the rules of science to explore possibilities that sometimes make us seriously consider if things we see on the big screen could actually be true. The advances in graphics, and thanks to ever-so-increasing video resolution, we're increasingly leaving the theaters with visually appealing memories. That said, there are plenty of movies made back in the day that are far from ever getting displaced by the reboots spree that the Hollywood is currently embarking. With readers suggesting us this question every week, we think it's time we finally asked, what's your favorite science-fiction movie? Also, what are some other sci-fi movies that you have really enjoyed but think they have not received enough praises or even much acknowledgement?

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  1. Golden age of remakes maybe by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 0, Troll

    >> Many say it's the golden age of science fiction cinema

    Slashdot editors must be getting dumber or I'm getting older. Show me a successful sci-fi movie that's not a remake, sequel/prequel or spin-off in the last ten years.

    On second thought, I'll vote for "dumber."

    1. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Ivoch · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Show me a successful sci-fi movie that's not a remake, sequel/prequel or spin-off in the last ten years."

      The Martian?

      Interstellar?

      Arrival?

    2. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by chispito · · Score: 4, Informative

      >> Many say it's the golden age of science fiction cinema Slashdot editors must be getting dumber or I'm getting older. Show me a successful sci-fi movie that's not a remake, sequel/prequel or spin-off in the last ten years. On second thought, I'll vote for "dumber."

      Interstellar. Moon. Inception. District 9. The Martian. Ex Machina.

      They aren't all my favorites, but they're all original (the Martian is an adaptation, not sure if that counts). And they are all firmly sci fi.

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    3. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty much all have the same spin. Space. Sci fi doesn't mean just space.

    4. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Martian ?
      Moon ?
      The one with the wormhole (sorry don't remember the title) ?
      The one revolving around the alien language (same, don't remember the title) ?

      How's this for starters ?

      Of course if your idea of science fiction is the 10th episode of Star Wars, or X-Men etc...I pity you.

    5. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by krisbrowne42 · · Score: 1

      You may not like it, though a lot of my friends did... Jupiter Rising is firmly SciFi and very original.

    6. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by CrankyFool · · Score: 4, Informative
      Avatar came out in 2009, 8 years ago. You could argue there are some derivative ideas in it (as you could argue for any other work of fiction these days), but it was not a remake, not a sequel/prequel, and not a spin-off.

      Edge of Tomorrow came out in 2014, a scant 3 years ago.

      Interstellar came out in 2014, a scant 3 years ago.

      Looper came out in 2012. It wasn't as big as the other ones I've mentioned, but its box office returns were 6x its production budget (which is much better than some of the bigger names above).

      Gravity, 2013, might be argued to not be sci-fi but science fact, but presuming we can reasonably call it Sci fi, it did pretty well, bringing in about $723M in revenues.

      Inception, 2011, made approximately 5.5x its budget and brought in around $826M, which is successful by most people's account

      District 9, 2009, brought in only around $210M, but only cost around $30M or so, so a 7x multiplier, and hugely popular

      (all numbers courtesy of http://www.boxofficemojo.com/)

      Now, it's likely -- this being Slashdot -- that someone will argue that some/all of these movies aren't good, or particularly original. That's fine. The original claim was "no successful Sci-fi movies in the last decade who aren't remakes, [s|pr]equel, or spin-offs. None of these movies are that.

    7. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Avatar? Surely that was within the last decade...

    8. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of those were great, but I thought Interstellar was based on the stupidest premise possible, and that ruined what could have been a great movie.

    9. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Type44Q · · Score: 0

      Ex Machina. The rest of those are... overrated... no doubt due to the fact that there's fuck-all in the way of good hard-SF coming from Hollywood (Indy filmmakers could be a different story). Of course, this is all relative (as they say in Arkansas); I can see how those flicks might seem less unpalatable if, for example, you haven't read Brin or Banks...

    10. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Ivoch · · Score: 4, Informative

      The question was just about "sci-fi movies" and not about "sci-fi movies but not in space". But ok:

      Source Code
      Chappie
      Ex Machina
      Edge of Tomorrow
      Elysium
      Tomorrowland
      Limitless
      The Book of Eli

      Better? ;)

    11. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by chispito · · Score: 1

      Avatar? Surely that was within the last decade...

      Yeah he's just cranky; there have been lots of good original science fiction films in the last decade, though Avatar was original in the strictest sense and incredibly derivative in other ways.

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    12. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Sperbels · · Score: 2

      WTF? Arrival, the Martian and Interstellar were all successful science fiction movies made within the last ten years. They met the criteria perfectly, why by condescending?

    13. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Right, right, right... but apart from Avatar, Edge of Tomorrow, Interstellar, Looper, Gravity, Inception, and District 9, what have the Romans ever done for us?!

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    14. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Ivoch · · Score: 2

      The question was about "successful" movies. Not about "movies liked by people over 30/50/90 years old". I'd argue that box office IS one criteria for measuring success.

      That said, I do like all the movies I listed. If that makes me young, so be it.

    15. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Primer

    16. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      District 9, 2009, brought in only around $210M, but only cost around $30M or so, so a 7x multiplier, and hugely popular

      District 9 wasn't too bad, but I still think it would have been a lot better in it's original form as a Halo movie. Forward Unto Dawn was surprisingly good, and the story behind Halo easily lends itself to film. It's also a well-known brand, and even people who aren't into sci-fi played Halo. Even the little live-action short for The Division wasn't too bad.

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    17. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Jamu · · Score: 0

      Arrival would have been so much better if the aliens were more alien than squid, and the language was more alien than "language, but in-a-circle".

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    18. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      > Avatar came out in 2009, 8 years ago. You could argue there are some derivative ideas in it (as you could argue for any other work of fiction these days), but it was not a remake, not a sequel/prequel, and not a spin-off.

      Avatar was a 100% remake of "Dances with Wolves" -- and I'm saying that as someone who bought the BluRay the instant it was available AND The Ultimate Fan's Guide to Avatar

      You might enjoy these reads:

      * Avatar: A Multi-Dimensional Pop Parable for Ascension
      * The Theology of Avatar

      What makes Avatar so good is that it is layered -- you have dumb action at the lowest level and interesting perspective/philosophy at the top. It brings the Out-Body-Experience to the forefront of mass consciousness. It hinted that plants were conscious. Lots of interesting questions for the layman to think about.

    19. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by taiwanjohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I would also put some of those originals (and their contemporaries) in the top tier: The Day the Earth Stood Still, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Thing from Another World, War of the Worlds... Obviously, you have to forgive the limited special effects of the day, but some of the stories were every bit as good as the top-rated films today.

      And, though it's not a movie per-se, um... Twilight Zone anyone?

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    20. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by lucasnate1 · · Score: 2

      Why do you think moon is overrated? I barely heard about it, and really enjoyed it when I watched it. (I can understand and agree regarding the rest).

    21. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by speedplane · · Score: 1

      Why would that make it better? It's interesting to see wildly different conceptions of alien life and communication. It expands your own definitions of the terms.

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    22. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by CrankyFool · · Score: 1

      That Avatar's plot was very similar to Dances with Wolves does not mean it was a remake in any meaningful way. It's pretty f'ing derivative, I'll give you that -- heck, there's a list of sources from which it looks like it borrowed -- http://io9.gizmodo.com/5460954... But it's not a remake by any meaningful, objective, standard.

    23. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by speedplane · · Score: 4, Informative

      Primer may be my favorite Sci-fi of all time, certainly in the time-travel sub genre.

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    24. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      Avatar came out in 2009, 8 years ago. You could argue there are some derivative ideas in it (as you could argue for any other work of fiction these days), but it was not a remake, not a sequel/prequel, and not a spin-off.

      You mean "Dances with Smurfs"? While Avatar is an enjoyable movie, the story and pacing is near spot-on with "Dances with Wolves" and "FernGully: The Last Rainforest". The plot wasn't just a derivative, it was a copy.

    25. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You're young," says the guy with a 7-digit UID.

    26. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I think the point is, no-one is going to remember them in the same class as Space Odyssey, Star Wars (technically Fantasy not Sci Fi), Matrix, Alien, etc. They're big now, but in the long time frame they'll be forgotten.

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    27. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still" because the humanity and acting was believable, but that robot suit with bendy knees really showcases the difference in tech.

    28. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      OK, fine, this guy had a point. It's not the "Golden Age" (I'd go 1970's for that) but its true sci-fi isn't completely dead/Marvel-ized yet either.

      I'll buy him a Geritol if the rest of you will just GTFO my lawn.

    29. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by speedplane · · Score: 1

      Were there aliens and spaceships in dances with the wolves? Shared themes and concepts... yes. Remake... no.

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    30. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel like banks novels could be source material for an awesome series if properly funded, I'm worn out of the same recycled ideas and stereotypes that keep getting regurgitated. Dystopian space operas that have the same problems problems we still have in 2017 are getting harder and harder to believe.

    31. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think there is a single story that isn't derivative in some ways.

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    32. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how do you measure success? Income? Awards?
      Successful movies are those that remain in the public lore for a long time. Please quote me some memorable lines from The Martian or Interstellar as opposed to, say, 'there are not the droids...' or 'I'll be back!'. Crap, even '...and don't call me Shirley' should count as being from a SciFi movie. After all, there's plenty of fiction and science in that one.

    33. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by chispito · · Score: 1

      Avatar was a 100% remake of "Dances with Wolves"

      There are a lot of "going native" stories it draws upon. It definitely evokes the feeling of Dances with Wolves the most, but I think there's a strong dose of Dune in there as well (which predated Dances' in book and film).

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    34. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Source Code (2011).

    35. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your friends liked it only because it had that hot brunette chick in it unless your friends are chicks or gay in which case they only liked it because it had that hot stripper guy in it.

      And, yes, I liked it -- that chick is gorgeous!

    36. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no no, you're both wrong. Avatar is an obvious ripoff of The Little Mermaid.

    37. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      It hinted that plants were conscious.

      Hinted? Sully talks to a tree (who also happens to be their god) and the next day about 5 different species of animals show up to help. That's pretty much in your face that plants were conscious. Plus when they were trying to save Weaver's character all the villagers were connected to the tree just like they do with animals. The whole idea behind Pandora was the very Native American (and found on multiple other indigenous religions as well) notion that everything had a spirit and everything is connected.

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    38. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by NEDHead · · Score: 1

      Equilibrium
      Paycheck
      Barbarella
      Galaxy Quest (a movie without flaws)
      Jumper
      Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai

    39. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      Not borrowed stolen. James Cameron admitted it himself, and he won a plagiarism lawsuit because of it.

    40. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      OK, fine, this guy had a point. It's not the "Golden Age" (I'd go 1970's for that) but its true sci-fi isn't completely dead/Marvel-ized yet either.

      I think that's a perfectly fair assessment. It's impossible to call the current crop of Sci-Fi movies the "golden age", when quite frankly, very few of them are very rememberable, and probably none will show up on anyone's top 100 all time movies list 20 years from now. That said, this isn't the dark ages either. A decade ago there were a lot fewer Sci-Fi movies being made than today.

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    41. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by CrankyFool · · Score: 2
      My sympathies -- I found that article and was tempted to post it, and then I checked, only to realize that hollywoodandswine.com is a (well-made!) parody site. I was very close to falling victim to it as well :)

      For example, I'm pretty sure that

      Anne Hathaway’s Husband Begs Her to Stop Practicing Oscar Acceptance Speech

      and John Hinckley, Jr. Furious to Discover Jodie Foster is Gay 32 Years Too Late

      Aren't to be taken too seriously :)

    42. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      Space Odyssey was based on a book

      Alien is a horror movie in outer space. Same formula. All the characters have some flaw, movie takes place in a closed environment and they are killed except for the flawless hero. In the case of Alien the flaw was usually greed and love of money

      star wars is Greek mythology in outer space. Lucas even consulted with Joseph Campbell to get the story right

    43. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Old movies are more quotable because they have been around longer and are known by more people.

    44. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Everything steals from something else. The point being though, all those movies will be remembered 20 years from now, just as we remember them all from 20+ years in the past.

      The Martian was original, it might have even been pretty decent. Who is going to think of it 20 years from now and remember it as a Sci Fi classic?

      I'm not saying good Sci-Fi isn't being made- it's just a bit of a stretch to call this "The Golden Age". How can the golden age not contain any memorable classics?

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    45. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by matthias.paschke1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Edge Of Tomorrow" - a clever sci-fi interpretation of "Groundhog day" with a good choice of a cast

    46. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please quote me some memorable lines from The Martian

      "In the face of overwhelming odds, I'm left with only one option. I'm gonna have to science the shit out of this." -- Mark Watney.

      "I don't want to come off as arrogant here, but I am the greatest botanist on this planet." -- Mark Watney.

    47. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by mellon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Martian may well be forgotten, but it was a much better movie than any that you named. Space Odyssey is practically unwatchable because it's so full of anachronisms. Star Wars is a typical hollywood three-act play. Don't get me wrong, I loved it when I was twelve, but it's not great art, and it's not even great story. The Matrix was fantastic, I loved it, I even use imagery from it in my meditation practice, but there were way too many bandaids. One of them is even the bandaid that my wife and I use to joke about Hollywood scriptwriting bandaids: "combined with a form of fusion..." Alien 2 was pretty good, I'll grant you that, but it was basically a bug hunt.

      What is great about The Martian is that it's got story, it's got adventure, it's got a kick-ass optimistic view of the future, and most of the science is fine. There is one plot band-aid at the beginning—the windstorm that can knock over a spaceship—but that's the worst one. And above all else, the film honors and lauds science. That's what science fiction is about, not blasters and bugs.

    48. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dpidcoe · · Score: 2

      I thought Moon was a great movie, but my biggest issue was that carelessness on the part of the movie makers left a bunch of not-hints that misled me to believe that he wasn't actually on the moon. e.g. when he exited the airlocks he was clearly not entering a vacuum, there were a few opportunities to showcase low gravity that were (what I thought was intentionally at the time) passed up. Up until the very end I was expecting him to run one of the vehicles off the grid and through the side of a giant dome to reveal that he was basically in the truman show: moon edition.

      And if you think about it, that actually would make an interesting premise. Take a guy off the street who doesn't understand science very well, tell him you'll pay him a bunch to go to the moon (or mars... mars one reality show anyone?) for 3 years, stick him in a box with some rocket noises, give him some handwavium technobabble during his "training" that explains why he won't feel the gravity difference (assuming your citizen of average intelligence even understands there would be a gravity difference), stress the fact that he'll die if he goes outside without his space suit on, and I bet you could trick someone for quite a bit of time.

      That and then the scene at the end with the corridor stretching off into infinity really annoyed me. That was enough to last up into the 1000s of years, at which point I'd think shipping up that many replacements kind of exceeds the expected life of the station by several orders of magnitude, and kind of squandered any kind of cost advantage they thought they were gaining.

    49. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      "Show me a successful sci-fi movie that's not a remake, sequel/prequel or spin-off in the last ten years."

      The Martian?

      Interstellar?

      Arrival?

      Martian: Robinson Crusoe.

      Interstellar: mashup of The Grapes of Wrath and the Jesus legend.

      Arrival: Aside from dozens of SciFi novels about learning to communicate with an enemy (Childhood's End, The Forever War), How about "Columbus discovers America" ?

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    50. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      "It has been seven days since I ran out of ketchup." -- Mark Watney.

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    51. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 1

      According to several interviews with NASA astronauts, Gravity is most definitely science FICTION. Most of their comments begin with "there's just no way that...."

    52. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      It's the golden age of sci fi cause a lot of sci fi is being made and it's socially acceptable. other than movies there are a lot of good series out there like the expanse or black mirror

      Rogue One was awesome

      Interstellar was pretty good

      The Martian is essentially a remake of that Tom Hanks movie where he's on an island which is a remake of an older story like Robinson Crusoe

      Inception was good

      I'll watch Passengers with my wife in a week or so

      Space Odyssey wasn't as good as people make it out to be. Classic drawn out Kubrik

    53. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure I can think of a more alien language than one that alters a user's notion of linear, unidirectional time.

    54. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Avatar . . . it was not a remake

      2 words: FernGully

    55. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Space Odyssey was based on a book

      Nope, read the foreword to the book. Clarke wrote the book at the same time as working on the screenplay. The book was, as I recall, released slightly earlier than the film, but neither was based on the other.

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    56. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      I agree that it definitely tries to hit a similar feel to Dances with Wolves. But maybe DwW is just a remake of Lawrence of Arabia with Indians and a post-Vietnam Hollywood ending? Both are very much bittersweet.

      In the great literary tradition of romanticizing the Noble Savage, either the Savage comes to us or we go to the Savage. Variants of this story go back millennia.

    57. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by lgw · · Score: 1

      Space Odyssey was based on a book

      Nope - Clarke wrote the script, then later finished his ideas for the book. Also, it was visually appealing for the day but really drawn out and very thin on content - much like Avatar, if not so schlocky.

      But in any case "based on a book" is very different from the sequels, reboots, and remakes - those movies are at least new to the world of cinema.

      Alien is a horror movie in outer space. Same formula ... star wars is Greek mythology in outer space.

      Everything is built from tropes. Everything. But that doesn't stop works from being original, any more than original architecture requires novel building materials - it's what you do with the pieces.

      Star Wars had such an impact because of the world building - that element was good science fiction. The actual story was pretty shallow fantasy, but so many more stories were told in the world that movie created.

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    58. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      District 9 was terrible. The premise was lifted directly from Alien Nation and the 'racism is bad' theme was ham fisted and the films assumption that all Nigerians are criminals somewhat detracted from its ability to retain moral authority regarding prejudice.

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    59. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      I think you give Avatar too much credit, Avatar was a remake of Disney's Pocahontas in space lol. If it were Dances with Wolves, it would have had more nuance and depth.

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    60. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      In addition to being around longer, we only discuss the good ones. Here we are discussing five standout movies over nearly 50 years rather than the thousands of terrible movies released over the same period. Yeah, most movies today suck. The same was true in 1980, but we don't waste our time re-watching "Starflight: The Plane That Couldn't Land".

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    61. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      "2001: A Space Odyssey" is an very much extended and expanded version of the idea in Clarke's 1948 short story, "The Sentinel"

    62. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Any movie that names an element "Unobtainium" cannot be referenced as science anything.

    63. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      It is a well known and long standing practice for hollywood to remake movies in different settings. This goes way back, but one that springs to mind:

      Kurosawa's Yojimbo (Edo Japan Ronin playing two factions against each other for profit) remade as "A Fist Full of Dollars" a western starring Clint Eastwood with the same storyline, but set in the cowboy American mid west.

      It happens a lot more often than you think, and these are remakes in the truest sense of the word.

      Here are more since I'm lazy and don't want to write out a longer list. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    64. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      The other band-aid is that the potatoes which would have been on the ship would have been treated with a chemical (chlorpropham or maleic hydrazide) to prevent them from budding.

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    65. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Space Odyssey was actually written as a novel and a screenplay at the same time, both based (partly) on the short story "The Sentinel"; and as the author himself says

        "I am continually annoyed by careless references to 'The Sentinel' as 'the story on which 2001 is based'; it bears about as much relation to the movie as an acorn to the resultant full-grown oak. (Considerably less, in fact, because ideas from several other stories were also incorporated.) "

      it was only a small part of the eventual product

    66. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cut him a break- maybe he's only seen 9 movies!

    67. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by chispito · · Score: 1

      Variants of this story go back millennia.

      Do they? Is there a story of a Roman that starts to identify the Visigoths or something, of which I am unfamiliar? It's not just the idea of identifying with your enemy, or switching sides, but of switching to the less civilized side. I always assumed it didn't come about until Romanticism took off.

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    68. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Avatar was just "cowboys versus indians", a western movie but set on another planet. Only change from that old formula was that this time, the "indians" actually won.

      Good movie, but not much new in it.

      To be good scifi (as opposed to merely a good movie) you need more than just any old "resource conflict/war" in a space travel setting. Star wars was a good movie series too - but didn't depend on science either. You might tell the same story in a pirate setting with sail ships instead of spaceships. So - good movies but so-so from a strict scifi viewpoint.

      A good "scifi" would depend on the scifi somehow, so the story couldn't be transplanted to a 1850-setting with a change of costume. A well done time travel incident is a way - there is no such thing in real life. One can argue whether "Back to the future" was good - but certainly scifi. Serenity is scifi; Not so much because of the spaceships - those were just transporation. The way the reavers were created is only possible in scifi though.

    69. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm narrow minded. Maybe I'm shallow. Maybe I'm too judgy. But I just could not get past the fact that he wanted to have sex with a blue monkey.

      Visually, the movie was very impressive. The bestiality, not so much.

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    70. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by slickwillie · · Score: 1

      "The Martian is essentially a remake of that Tom Hanks movie where he's on an island which is a remake of an older story like Robinson Crusoe"

      Well, except that Matt Damon's character wasn't "Cast Away" at the end/

    71. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by umghhh · · Score: 1

      It may or not be personal but I do not think Chappie belongs here - it is s-f all right but of rather questionable quality. This is besides your point but I Think Ex Machina is an outstanding classic now even if they say this is a modern version of Frankenstein - I did not think about it when I saw it but then indeed there are quiet some similarities. There are also significant, not negligible differences and novelties. The ending were a little weak but then again what is perfect. I would add The Road too - it made me feel sick and I still watched till the end. Here again it is a bit weak at ending.
      I do not understand the 'no space' limitation. It may be that we never reach other stars. But then this is a nice entertainment and Interstellar was still one of masterpieces of S-F while touching the time travel - that is a feat considering how hairy and impossible that is.

    72. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Actually, Clarke wrote the book and the screenplay simultaneously.

      See The Lost Worlds of 2001.

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    73. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by mellon · · Score: 1

      Still, that's not too many bandaids. The Matrix was lots of awesome cinematography and a really cool idea pretty much held together with bandaids. Like, why does dying in the matrix kill you IRL? Doesn't make any sense at all, but required for the plot, so that's the deal.

    74. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Sique · · Score: 1

      There are about 150 plots in this world, and everything else is rehashing. If you really complain about that, you should not even consider Frankenstein by Mary Shelley an original, as its plot can be found in Goethe's Faust, which in turn is a reworked play from the 16th century, which is based on legends you find for instance in Boccaccios Decamerone, which are a collection of stories from greek classics and arab folk tales.

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    75. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not what's depicted in the movie. The movie depicts sentences (containing words) written in a circle. Presented sequentially in unidirectional time. It's trivial to write them out in a straight line. Writing it in squiggly squid ink isn't that special either - especially when the aliens look like wierd squids. Or using sentences where word order has no meaning - if that's what they've done (or maybe used used unidirectional sentences). Or joining up the words with line.

    76. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by cdsparrow · · Score: 1

      Space Odyssey wasn't actually based on a book. The book and movie were done at the same time and are quite different. Same meat of the story, but lots of differences. The second book was a sequel to the movie rather than the first book interestingly enough.

    77. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      This critique of the film depends on the reading that the material was named unobtanium rather than described as unobtainium. As the latter reading is fully consistent with the rest of the film and also makes sense, sticking with the former is shown to be an attempt to manufacture a failing out of thin air.

    78. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by halfEvilTech · · Score: 1

      Wrong again, it is just Pocahontas in Space

    79. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Avatar came out in 2009, 8 years ago. You could argue there are some derivative ideas in it (as you could argue for any other work of fiction these days), but it was not a remake, not a sequel/prequel, and not a spin-off.

      Dances with Smurfs. totally a recycled Hollywood mash-up story.

    80. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by cdsparrow · · Score: 1

      Everything is just a retelling of Gilgamesh if you get down to it...

    81. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the Matrix made no sense at all, but it really broke new cinematographic ground. It also did a really good job melding the sci-fi and good ol' kung-fu genres.

      Agreed that the potato thing is not a huge hole, but in an interview with the writer he was aware of the band-aid and couldn't think of a way to resolve it so he just ignored it. I was a little surprised, since the main character is a botanist and all he had to do was throw in a line about wanting to have potatoes that he could grow as an experiment or something. Maybe it would prematurely reveal the plot twist or something writer-y that I don't understand :)

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    82. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The conceptions were very mundane, squid aliens, that use squid ink to communicate, and write sentences, but in a circle. Arrival was so disappointing.

    83. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forbidden Planet. Still appreciate it over half a century later.

    84. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on, you forgot Forbidden Planet!

    85. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Avatar would have been a lot better if the Na'vi revealed at the end of the movie that Eywa has been sending Pandoran life forms to the Earth via the previous mining missions, initiating a Gaia-like consciousness here and that now it is time to awaken it.

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    86. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      In some of the outside scenes i remember that rocks were falling very slowly, that made me sure that they are on the moon. I do like your premise as well, I wonder why someone would do that though, except for "to experiment".

    87. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      I have been told by a classics scholar of reading a letter by a Roman complaining that his son dresses like a German.

      Romanticizing Celts was also thing that happened. Apparently sometimes young married Celtic couples would feel forced to go out and win their fortunes by arms, and the young wife might fight directly alongside her husband.

      I might have doubted the veracity of the first item above, but I have seen translated quotes demonstrating the second, by an author whose name I recognized.

      When you decide your culture is decadent in a particular way(s), it is quite easy to find another culture that seems to be intriguingly different on that score, and then spin it into a big positive Lesson About Life. That is not necessarily a bad thing. While I do find cultural comparisons as valuable for understanding ones own culture, because it can be easy to forget that so many everyday habits have practical alternatives, it is very easy to go overboard. Hollywood likes to go overboard.

    88. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by jjw3579 · · Score: 1

      Avatar: Fern Gully in space! (Now in 3D.)

    89. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inception

    90. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what have the Romans ever done for us?!

      Don't you mean "what have the Romulans ever done for us"?

    91. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Avatar is definitely a ripoff/remake/spinoff: it is a retelling of that animated film Pocahontas, set on another planet, rather than another continent. Oh, but it has 3D...

    92. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      well damn, shows me for not verifying my 3-second google searches. They lied to me!

    93. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by sh00z · · Score: 1

      Avatar came out in 2009, 8 years ago. You could argue there are some derivative ideas in it (as you could argue for any other work of fiction these days), but it was not a remake, not a sequel/prequel, and not a spin-off.

      Avatar is simply "Dances With Wolves" in space.

      "Moon" was interesting, but nowhere near as mind-bending as people claim.

      In the last decade' majors, there's "Source Code". "Edge of Tomorrow" had potential, if they only hadn't cheated to keep the main characters alive at the end.

      Great Indie stuff, though. "Safety Not Guaranteed," "The One I Love," "Time Lapse."

      Classics are stuff like "Blade Runner," "12 Monkeys," "2001."

    94. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by boristdog · · Score: 1

      A Man Called Horse just called...

    95. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by boristdog · · Score: 1

      What? No Galaxina?

    96. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by bobbutts · · Score: 1

      I had high hopes but I guess I just don't get it. I forced myself to keep watching even though I wanted to stop. Worst movie for me since Birdman.

    97. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by hackel · · Score: 1

      TIL Gravity was a true story. "Science fact."

    98. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      Pandorum?

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    99. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by invid · · Score: 1

      The Martian is a remake of this: Robinson Crusoe on Mars which is a great movie, although it's no Forbidden Planet.

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    100. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by balbeir · · Score: 1

      Blade Runner ?

    101. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      Memorable lines from The Martian:

      • Science the shit out of this.
      • Remember that astronaut ... nice funeral for? Turns out he's alive and we left him on Mars. Our bad. Sincerely, NASA.
      • Mark Watney, Space Pirate.
      • Mars will come to fear my botany powers.
      • if you didn't want me to go through your stuff, you shouldn't have left me for dead on a desolate planet.
      • I admit it's dangerous, but I'd get to fly around like Iron Man.
      • Once you grow crops somewhere, you have officially colonized it. So, I've technically colonized Mars. In your face, Neil Armstrong!
      • and I had to look this one up to get it all: "By the way, physicists, when describing things like acceleration do not use the word "fast". So they're only doing that in the hopes that I won't raise any objections to this lunacy, because I like the way "fastest man in the history of space travel" sounds. I do like the way it sounds... I mean, I like it a lot.... I'm not going to tell them that."

      Great SF, near-future, heavy on triumph of humanity working together and science over superstitious antiscientific woo-woo.

    102. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really wish he had said "MacGyver the shit out of this" instead, but that's a niggle. :)

      These lines spring to mind:

      "Thanks to my Uncle Tommy in China, we have another shot at this."
      "You realize I'm your boss, right?"
      "Technically, I colonized Mars. In your face, Neil Armstrong!"
      "Luckily, in the history of humanity, nothing bad has ever happened from lighting hydrogen on fire..."
      "Dear Mark, sorry we left you on Mars, but we just don't like you."
      "Ladies and gentlemen, I give you super-nerd Beth Johanssen."
      "No I won't "turn the beat around, I refuse to."
      "Everywhere I go, I'm the first. Step outside the rover? First guy ever to be there!"
      "He asked us to call him Captain Blondebeard."
      "I asked for a photo, and what, he's The Fonz?"
      "What's your name again?" "Teddy. I'm the head of NASA."
      "You were following orders. I left him there."
      "Every time something goes wrong, the world forgets why we fly."
      "It's bigger than one man." "No, it isn't."
      "You solve one problem... and you solve the next one... and then the next. And If you solve enough problems, you get to come home."
      "He's not even got to the bad parts yet." "Well, let's get to the bad parts!"
      "Yeah, I get to go faster than any man in the history of space travel... because you're launching me in a convertible."
      "Rich Purnell is a steely-eyed missile man!"

    103. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by invid · · Score: 2

      Star Wars had such an impact because of the world building - that element was good science fiction. The actual story was pretty shallow fantasy, but so many more stories were told in the world that movie created.

      I was 12 when Star Wars came out. I'll tell you why it was popular. All of the big science fiction of the late 60's and most of the 70's was heavy with political and social messages. There was no real pulp science fiction. According to "Logan's Run" and "Soylent Green" we were doomed because of overpopulation. "2001" was about a computer killing people. In "The Omega Man" humanity is wiped out by a disease that turns people into zombie vampires. The only real movie science fiction franchise of the time, "Planet of the Apes", was about civilization being wiped out by a nuclear war. Star Trek of course had its social messages. By the late 70's we were more than ready for some good mindless fun.

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    104. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by rwa2 · · Score: 2

      Eh, I watched Ex Machina and Chappie (and Wall-E and Big Hero 6) on the same transpacific flight, and I think they all belong... exploring different aspects of the same AI imagination. Maybe more on the level of Short Circuit, but it was still cute. Anyway, same director as District 9, and it's a neat and somewhat pragmatic vision of the not-too-distant future.

    105. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      what have the Romans ever done for us?!

      This calls for a concrete example...

    106. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brianerst · · Score: 1

      FernGully - The Last Rainforest, surely.

    107. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      I saw a writeup of Pocahontas with the names scratched out and Avatar names put in, and it was a dead match. But that whole outsider becomes insider story is formulaic, to say the least. It's been too long since I've seen Donnie Brasco, but I bet it would compare, too.

    108. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      The big deal is that Primer was filmed for under $10k

    109. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alien is a horror movie in outer space. Same formula. All the characters have some flaw, movie takes place in a closed environment and they are killed except for the flawless hero. In the case of Alien the flaw was usually greed and love of money

      Funny, all the times I've seen Alien, and I never really thought about that aspect. It's interesting to reflect on the flaws of the characters in relation to how they die.

      Kane is a victim of curiosity.
      Brett is just clueless and helpless without someone to tell him what to do.
      Dallas is in over his head, and doesn't really know what they're up against.
      Lambert lets her fear get the best of her.
      Parker is proud and greedy.

      Ash is just plain evil, but he's a robot, so presumably his "flaws" are programmed in - he serves the faceless Company with no empathy for the humans.

      Ripley is flawed too, driven mostly by emotion rather than reason, but it wouldn't be a very satisfying ending if no one survived!

    110. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Nor was Tom Hanks's, so...

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    111. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by rwa2 · · Score: 2
    112. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Miguelito · · Score: 1

      I enjoyed it. Then again, I like Cloud Atlas too. I've run into a lot of people that don't like the Wachowski's stuff post-Matrix because they tend to be hard to follow if you're not paying attention to all the details and don't follow stuff that jumps around a lot... and they're longer movies. Too many people can't seem to focus on a single thing for 3 hours anymore.

      I tend to actually like stuff with weird/convoluted premises though.

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    113. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually Space Odessey was released prior to the book. It was a colliberation between Kubrick and Clark.

    114. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Finally, somebody who likes Cloud Atlas! I thoroughly enjoyed it. You really have to watch it at least twice to be able to follow all the plots.

      I liked The Fountain for much the same reason. It's three separate stories set in three different times. Plus, you get to look at Rachel Weisz for the whole movie!

    115. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Alien is a horror movie in outer space. Same formula. All the characters have some flaw, movie takes place in a closed environment and they are killed except for the flawless hero. In the case of Alien the flaw was usually greed and love of money

      Alien is a SLASHER movie in outer space. And Ripley is just another final girl there. She doesn't become Rambolina until Aliens.
      Alien was running on the same zeitgeist fear that made Halloween a hit - Bundys and Zodiacs and Tool Box Killers and Atlanta murderers and killer clowns...
      Not to mention that the media was always eager to help spread the panic and disinformation. Causing bullshit psychological studies and whatnot...

      As for Star Wars... Lucas read Campbell's book. Which is about myths in general, and about his thesis of a single "monomyth" spanning across the entire human culture. A LOT of it being about Buddhism.
      Lucas watched Kurosawa. Watched Riefenstahl. Watched Flash Gordon serials as a kid.
      Watched Howard Hughes with John Milius standing up after "Hell's Angels" to hold a speech about how "This is the kind of movies that should be made! Movies that matter!"
      And you better listen to what Milius is saying cause he's built like a bear and he's packing shotguns in the trunk of his car. In case the handgun he has on him isn't enough. And he is also a brilliant script writer.
      Hell... it even has connections to that other famous desert planet where they harvest spice which some intrepid and enterprising space pirate might try to smuggle.

      Lucas pooled ideas from many sources and worked the thing over and over and over again trying to push out that idea he constructed in his head from all those sources - while others helped shape it.
      And he had a helluva team to help him. And a few palls who knew a thing or two about movies.
      Plus a budget fit for a James Bond movie.

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    116. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by CharlesA.Halsall · · Score: 1

      Every story has been told in some form or another.

    117. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except of course it was an Italian film and not from Hollywood ;)

    118. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > "2001" was about a computer killing people.

      Worst. Oversimplification. Ever!

    119. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The Martian is a remake of this: Robinson Crusoe on Mars

      You're kidding, right?

      Apart from the premise of a man being stranded on Mars, they have literally nothing in common.

    120. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didnt know Elizabeth Warren was in space!

    121. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      The "dying IRL" part is modestly plausible, as described by the movie. See for example the nocebo effect (and an entertaining IRL experiment here [Red].)

    122. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The dramatic reason for it is to put the main characters in real danger. It's hard to feel any excitement over the fights if Neo just respawns when Smith kills him. That's an advantage the agents have over the humans.

      (Of course, that's basically what Neo does in the end, but it's treated as a sort of miracle.)

    123. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      I watched Passengers over the weekend. For all the bad reviews, I enjoyed it: sort of Space Odyssey meets WALL-E, with a touch of over-dramatic romance.

    124. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Space Odyssey was based on a book

      Actually Clarke wrote the novel after the script, but that doesn't change that it was the work of a very good writer and a very good director.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(novel)

    125. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Space Odyssey wasn't as good as people make it out to be. Classic drawn out Kubrik

      On a cinema screen it is that good IMHO, on a television not so much. I really don't know why the long model shots set to classical music work so well and neither do the directors of so many movies that tried to copy it either (eg. In Trek 1 that sort of thing just came across as boring scenes).

    126. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dbIII · · Score: 1

      All of the big science fiction of the late 60's and most of the 70's was heavy with political and social messages.

      That sounds like now as well and what stopped things like "Ghost in the Shell" and "Suicide Squad" being good movies despite having the ingredients for a good movie. The plots just do not fit either the settings or the characters, but the "message" gets applied with a trowel.

      According to "Logan's Run" and "Soylent Green" we were doomed because of overpopulation

      We kind of were, but the "green revolution" in agriculture, the death of Mao (giving China a chance to plan to feed it's people) and the situation where there are no more children on the planet than there were in the 1940s (two billion) changed that. By the time the movies came out however the solutions were well under way.

    127. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by dbIII · · Score: 1

      At the other extreme is Solaris where the aliens were so alien that communication was getting nowhere after a century despite the aliens being able to construct human looking and behaving bodies based on the memories of the people on the space station.
      At least that was the book, I haven't seen the movie remake and it's a while since I've seen the original.

    128. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't tell me what to do.

    129. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Spazmania · · Score: 1, Interesting

      They belong... just, well, if those are your favorites you're not a real computer guy and are barely a sci fi fan.

      Then again, if neither Tron nor WarGames make the top of your list, you're also not a real computer guy.

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    130. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Real Computer Guys (tm) don't necessarily have lists of the best 'sci-fi' film tucked away in their heads.

      'WarGames' would be like watching 'Big Bang Theory.' To a non-nerd it appears that the characters on the program are nerds. But nerds don't watch programs like that. The characters in BBT would never watch their show. Well... maybe they would....

    131. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The script and book for 2001 were written at the same time, but were both loosely based on a couple earlier short stories by Clarke.

    132. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      By the late 70's we were more than ready for some good mindless fun.

      I don't think you should say 'we' like that. Many of us who are SF enthusiasts consider Star Wars barely SF at all. What Star Wars can conclusively be shown to have done is suck a lot of air out of the 'genere' of SF and lead to decades of dismal space-westerns.

      There is no 'continuity' in a Science Fiction audience that leads to Star Wars. Star Wars was what George Lucas came up with after he was denied the right to produce Flash Gordon remakes. People who were watching SF films before the Star Wars movie came out were not the huge audience who embraced Star Wars. Star Wars didn't make 'science fiction' a mainstream thing. It was just a mainstream movie that many people outside the SF community considered as being Science Fiction.

    133. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Avatar, and most of the films like it, are just obvious ripoffs of the Hasbro commercials we watched as kids.

      They're simply vehicles to sell toys and spin-off merchandise. Lucus and Pixar films are some of the most extreme examples that come to mind.

    134. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Split, by Chris Shaw

    135. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one of the facts or modern life that annoys me: the confabulation with box office success during the initial release of a movie with artistic success. How much of box office success is a result of good promotion? Or star attraction--neither of which has nothing anything to do with being a good movie.
      A great movie without the backing of a big studio may opt to premiere it in several regions sequentially, thus not have a megabuck first week.
      In fact, I bet if you were to go back and see which movies were great box office successes you would find a fair percentage of turkeys and schlock.
      Here' my proposal for a better way to measure success: allow viewers 30 days to ask for a refund of the ticket price. Measure the percentage.

    136. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by reanjr · · Score: 3, Funny

      No true Scotsman would agree with your assessment.

    137. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      That's sort-of true, though it's closer to a sequel. In The Sentinel, the monolith was a pyramid and it was difficult to access. The short story ended as they found their way in and sent a signal. In 2001, the monolith was a rectangle with 1,4,9 (and so on in higher dimensions, according to 2061) ratio sides and sent the signal as soon as it was discovered. The events analogous to those in The Sentinel happened before the start of the book. The Sentinel didn't have the second monolith around Jupiter / Saturn (the film and book of 2001 disagree on which one it was), didn't involve a space flight to discover it, didn't include an AI computer, and so on.

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    138. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by dehachel12 · · Score: 1

      >so-so from a strict scifi viewpoint
      it has MAGIC, so I would say DEFINITELY not SF.

    139. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by tigersha · · Score: 1

      > Star Wars was what George Lucas came up with after he was denied the right to produce Flash Gordon remakes

      Jesus no. Whoever denied Lucas that right deserves a Nobel Prize.

      First time I heard this story, do you have any sources?

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    140. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by tigersha · · Score: 1

      We have a word for people like you in German: Korinthenkakker. A person who shits raisins.

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    141. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Alien 2 was pretty good

      Aliens is the greatest action movie ever made, bar none, and features the best kickass female character in cinema, bar none. It is peerless.

      What is great about The Martian....

      Whereas The Martian is a boring movie made of probably the most boring book I have ever read.

      That's what science fiction is about, not blasters and bugs.

      The Martian fails appallingly at the 'fiction' part of 'science fiction', which is to say, it fails to tell a compelling story. Whereas Aliens tells a story of greed, of loss (Ripley loses her daughter to old age) of redemption (she finds, and saves Newt, who just happens to be same same age as her lost daughter), of inexperience in the face of terror, of promises kept and broken (Newt : "I knew you'd come"), of male vs. female bravado ('have you ever been mistaken for a man / no, have you?').

      Nothing else has ever even come close.

    142. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, right, right... but apart from Avatar, Edge of Tomorrow, Interstellar, Looper, Gravity, Inception, and District 9, what have the Romans ever done for us?!

      Gladiatorial games, duels to the death in front of a large crowds of spectators. It's a custom we should adopt as a way of settling disputed elections.

    143. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      All these will be forgotten, because The Martian is straight-up terrible.

    144. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by tigersha · · Score: 1

      I suppose you have to have grown up in South Africa in the 80s (like me) to truly appreciate District 9

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    145. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      No, the alien language does fundamentally alter the protagonists experience of linear time. Did you even watch it?

    146. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you call yourself a "computer guy," or anyone else for that matter, you don't belong on this site.

      Go back to the sales department, bozo.

    147. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      A fair judgement, but maybe not a fair conclusion. It's definitely not 'terrible', but it did undermine its own moral high ground. There's a heartbreaking scene in which one of the aliens attempts to comfort his son, by pointing at the awful photograph of endless refugee tents and wondering if 'this will be our one'. Even if the film sits on shaky ground, that scene alone elevates it above 'terrible'.

    148. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Primer is the greatest time travel movie ever made. It's also the only 'hard sci-fi' movie that's so far been talked about in this thread that actually manages to have characters and a story.

    149. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Come on man, I hate "Birdman" as much as the next guy, but you really should give Primer another shot. The time travel scenario in it is literally the only believable one that exists in fiction anywhere. Although 'timecrimes' gets pretty close.

    150. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Jupiter Rising is firmly SciFi and very original.

      Ok. So why's she still cleaning toilets at the end? God it's risible rubbish.

    151. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by tigersha · · Score: 1

      The first two Dollars movies (A Fist full of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More) are totally brilliant. The gunfight at the end of "For a few Dollars more" was way better than anything in Good Bad & Ugly

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    152. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by invid · · Score: 1

      > The Martian is a remake of this: Robinson Crusoe on Mars

      You're kidding, right?

      Apart from the premise of a man being stranded on Mars, they have literally nothing in common.

      I'm not entirely serious, but they do have some things in common. They both have astronauts who have to figure out how to get oxygen and water and food on Mars. I do think that "The Martian" would have been significantly improved if it had a monkey. Of course, most things are improved with a monkey.

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    153. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Cloud atlas was an honourable failure, and had several storylines that were compelling and believable. It fell apart under its own weight, since just one of its threads could have sustained an entire movie easily. Due to the fact that no-one will watch a ten-hour movie, the Wachowski's could only really scratch the surface of each storyline, which ultimately let all of the stories down.

      But Jupiter Rising is total, complete, absurd, nonsense. And believe me, I did pay attention, it's a little bit patronising to suggest that people didn't like it because they couldn't follow it. I could follow it fine, thanks. It was just very, very, very bad indeed.

    154. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Gravity, 2013, might be argued to not be sci-fi but science fact,

      You tell that to an Orbital Mechanic. Great film. Great. But the orbital mechanics stuff was just nonsense.

    155. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      People that like Avatar are generally people for whom such overt and obvious themes appear subtle. They're also people that can deal with similar problems in its visual style - anyone that enjoys subtlety and nuance in story and image will be unable to handle Avatar's approach to color and metaphor. It's not a bad film, it's just made for people that have pictures of fractals and dolphins on their walls.

    156. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by invid · · Score: 1

      There is no 'continuity' in a Science Fiction audience that leads to Star Wars. Star Wars was what George Lucas came up with after he was denied the right to produce Flash Gordon remakes.

      Star Wars was a continuation of the Flash Gordon styled pulp given a flashy modern look. People still remembered that kind of "science fiction", or more accurately, "science fantasy" adventure. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of real science fiction, and I prefer Star Trek to Star Wars, but in the late seventies science fiction was super heavy and we were ready for some light entertainment. And when I said 'we', I'm talking about us pre-teens at the time who were getting bummed out by all the stories that told us we were going live in a computer controlled or ape controlled apocalyptic waste land eating soylent green, which is people, by the way.

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    157. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by invid · · Score: 1

      > "2001" was about a computer killing people.

      Worst. Oversimplification. Ever!

      2001 is probably my all time favorite movie, but if you strip out Clarke's star baby space mysticism, the crux of the movie is that a computer decided that the best way to finish it's mission is to kill the people around it. "Logic dictates we must kill the humans to satisfy our programming." Same premise as "The 100". Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if Clarke was named after Clarke. Anyway, Clarke is great, and "Rendezvous with Rama" is one of the best science fiction books of all time, but his space mysticism is a bit too new agey and unscientific for me.

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    158. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 1

      star wars is Greek mythology in outer space. Lucas even consulted with Joseph Campbell to get the story right

      How's that? I always thought Star Wars is World War 2 blended with Asimov's foundation.

      Empire - Nazi Germany
      Rebel Alliance - Allies
      Space Combat - World War 2 style dogfighting

      Everything else, Coruscant, psychic abilities, galaxy spanning empire, is obviously inspired by Asimov.

    159. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not because it was written in circles.

    160. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by magusxxx · · Score: 1

      'The Similars' currently on Netflix. It's like a 90 minute Twilight Zone episode. It has a 95% rating by critics on Rotten Tomato. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt39...

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    161. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When was Arrival released?

    162. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Henning+Rogge · · Score: 1

      The other band-aid is that the potatoes which would have been on the ship would have been treated with a chemical (chlorpropham or maleic hydrazide) to prevent them from budding.

      The potatoes were of the botanic experiments planned for Mars (remember, Mark was a Botanist), so it is very unlikely they would not be ably to bud.

    163. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I thought they were for the Thanksgiving dinner? I might be confusing the book with the movie.

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    164. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      It didn't ruin the film for me, nor did I stress over it. Suspension of belief is not a problem for me - I can watch movies about superheros, for God's sake. I only mentioned it because the whole potato thing was a band-aid, and that was a major plot point along with the windstorm.

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    165. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Martian the movie will be forgotten pretty fast, but I think the book sits firmly on the list of sci-fi classics and won't be forgotten earlier than works of Verne or Lem.

    166. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you doing, you insane person!? You just put Cameron's Avatar right on the very top!

    167. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Chysn · · Score: 1

      > So why's she still cleaning toilets at the end?

      GAH! Spoilers! LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU.

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    168. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      And if you think about it, that actually would make an interesting premise. Take a guy off the street who doesn't understand science very well, tell him you'll pay him a bunch to go to the moon (or mars... mars one reality show anyone?) for 3 years, stick him in a box with some rocket noises, give him some handwavium technobabble during his "training" that explains why he won't feel the gravity difference (assuming your citizen of average intelligence even understands there would be a gravity difference), stress the fact that he'll die if he goes outside without his space suit on, and I bet you could trick someone for quite a bit of time.

      Like this?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    169. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, Akira, Alien, Aliens, Back to the Future, Back to the Future, Part II, Back to the Future, Part III, Banlieue 13, Big Hero 6, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, Blade Runner, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Dark City, Demolition Man, District 9, Dredd, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Explorers, Fantastic Planet, Flatland, Flight of the Navigator, Forbidden Planet, Gandahar, Ghost in the Shell, Ghostbusters, Her, Iron Man, Iron Sky, Jurassic Park, K-PAX, Krull, Logan's Run, Macross: Do You Remember Love?, Mad Max, Mad Max 2, Marvel's The Avengers, Moon, My Youth in Arcadia, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, Pitch Black, Predator, Riddick, RoboCop, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Snowpiercer, Solaris (1972), Spaceballs, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, Star Wars - Episode IV: A New Hope, Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars - Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, Superman II, The Black Hole, The Chronicles of Riddick, The Fifth Element, The Ice Pirates, The Iron Giant, The Last Starfighter, The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Terminator, The Thing, The Transformers: The Movie, They Live, Time Bandits, Titan A.E., Total Recall, TRON, V for Vendetta, Vanilla Sky, Voices of a Distant Star, WALL-E, Weird Science, Yor: The Hunter from the Future, Zardoz

    170. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Megane · · Score: 1

      Gravity, 2013, might be argued to not be sci-fi but science fact, but presuming we can reasonably call it Sci fi, it did pretty well, bringing in about $723M in revenues.

      Science fact? More like Science Fantasy with how it handles orbital mechanics. Very pretty, perhaps, but very impossible.

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    171. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      How many people walked out of Star Wars saying "These are not the drones you're looking for!" to each other?

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    172. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best thing about "Edge of Tomorrow" is seeing Tom Cruise get killed over and over.

    173. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      "combined with a form of fusion..."

      All they needed to do instead was say that they needed the processing ability of human brains. You wouldn't be able to call that "wrong" because we don't know enough about how the human mind works or how machine intelligence would work to say. Also, it would give them a reason to have used humans in the pods instead of, say, cows. If all you need is body heat, why bother with consciousness?

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    174. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Interstellar, maybe - but I think The Martian will hold up well.

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    175. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Space Odyssey was based on a book

      Who said they couldn't be adaptations of books? Does that mean we're supposed to throw out all the Philip K. Dick adaptations, for instance?

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    176. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't necessarily have called the end of "Source Code" a cheat. It was stated several times that no-one really know how it works, and therefore there's no "rule" set within the movie's universe that prevents a consciousness from migrating to an alternate reality... though what happens to the original consciousness is a matter of some debate at that point. As a result though, it's somewhat consistent with multiverse theory.

      Edge of Tomorrow though... yeah... that one was a cheat that violated its own internal "rules". At least I can't find a way that it works within the narrative... but it was still a good movie :)

      I'd say good classic sci-fi movies of recent years should include Ex-Machina and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

    177. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are correct. In the movie, he pulls the potatoes from a bin labeled "do not open until Thanksgiving!"

      In the book, he says, "I had twelve potatoes to work with. I am one lucky son of a bitch they aren't freeze-dried or mulched. Why did NASA send twelve whole potatoes, refrigerated but not frozen? And why send them along with us as in-pressure cargo rather than in a crate with the rest of the Hab supplies? Because Thanksgiving was going to happen while we were doing surface operations, and NASA's shrinks thought it would be good for us to make a meal together. Not just to eat it, but to actually prepare it. There's probably some logic to that, but who cares?"

    178. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Actually, the question was about favorite movies.

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    179. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by sh00z · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I wasn't claiming cheating on source code. I totally bought the complete transfer of his consciousness to the pocket universe. Especially because it then "helps" the others in the experimental program to survive (however deep the universes go. Turtles all the way down?) I also agree on those other two (although Philip K. Dick should really have received some recognition for Eternal Sunshine and Truman Show. Total lifts of concepts from his 50's-60's stories and novels)

    180. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAL killing the crew is a crucial plot point, but it's not what the movie's "about." Thematically, HAL is a symbol of man's hubris, trying to attain god-like powers and making a mind in his own image. HAL is basically a modern golem, and of course because man is imperfect, his creation is imperfect and turns on him.

      You can't really "strip out Clarke's star baby space mysticism," because the themes of the movie are fundamentally religious. Humans are flawed apes who have attained enough intelligence to go into space, but haven't evolved spiritually/intellectually enough to join the higher beings yet. That's what the bone/bomb transition is about - we're still primal and violent creatures, we just have bigger sticks to hit each other with. That's why Bowman has to "repent" by destroying HAL before he's "worthy" to go through the stargate.

    181. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree more on Space Odyssey. I read the book and loved it, then watched the movie and wished I could have 3 hours or my life back. I really liked HAL 9000 in the movie but that was about it. I can understand how impressive some of the technical stuff was, and I get that it was meant to be artistic. It's like I went to a fine restaurant but instead of being trusted with my own utensils the chef periodically comes out of the kitchen and spoon feeds me a bite every five minutes over the course of three hours.

      The most memorable bit was a 15 minute scene where a space ship is landing. It's memorable because nothing happens of any importance whatsoever and I kept watching it because surely something had to be about to happen which would warrant actually filming the scene. But nope, apparently they had made the models for this scene in their spare time or something and just had to use it in the movie.

    182. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by rochrist · · Score: 1

      If you think being a long human stranded alone on Mars and having to find a way to survive and get home isn't a compelling story, you have some pretty odd ideas of what MAKES a compelling story,

    183. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      War of the Worlds.

      The burning commuter train blowing through at full speed was disturbing.

    184. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by perotbot · · Score: 1

      District 9 Hunger Games Elysium Edge of Tomorrow (no, seriously) https://entertainment.slashdot...

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    185. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by anegg · · Score: 1

      I needed to read the book to make sense of the movie [2001 that is], while Star Wars made perfect sense on the big screen without having to read a book.

    186. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently Scott wanted Ripley to be killer off in the ending of Alien, but the studio vetoed it... Probably not only for the happy ending market lift but also to allow to sequels.

    187. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Martian: Robinson Crusoe.

      Yes, in the sense that Star Wars is the Illiad.

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    188. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The other band-aid is that the potatoes which would have been on the ship would have been treated with a chemical (chlorpropham or maleic hydrazide) to prevent them from budding.

      There is no nerd like a potato nerd.

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    189. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Avatar came out in 2009, 8 years ago. You could argue there are some derivative ideas in it (as you could argue for any other work of fiction these days), but it was not a remake, not a sequel/prequel, and not a spin-off.

      But none of those things really matter when it's a piece of crap.
      Really, it is a piece of crap.
      That Cameron is working on sequels instead of forgetting about it the way George Lucas did Howard the Duck is a travesty.

    190. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      It's worse than that - I'm an NPR nerd and listened to an interview with the author. I think the interview doubled my potato knowledge and I had to google the chemical names.

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    191. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Whereas The Martian is a boring movie made of probably the most boring book I have ever read.

      You found the movie boring? Wow. Just wow. I'd hate to think what 2001 would do to you.

      Perhaps your attention span is more suited to something like Michael Bay movies? Try "The Island."

    192. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by lgw · · Score: 1

      We kind of were,

      Just like every generation., for at least 150 years, and probably longer, we were "ZOMG all going to die" and then technology did what it always does. It was bullshit in 1870, bullshit in 1970, and bullshit today.

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    193. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      Gattaca

      Argue about plot holes till the cows come home, but it returns the romance to space travel. In suits and ties! Not space suits!

      I always stop to watch this when it comes on.

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    194. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by lgw · · Score: 1

      Many of us who are SF enthusiasts consider Star Wars barely SF at all.

      Many pretentious hipster douchbags in every field consider anything that gained mainstream popularity barely in the field at all.

      Star Wars was not Transformers, it wasn't just explosions and meaningless action for 2 hours. There's more to science fiction than the narrow sub-genre of "hard SF", where everything must have a legit scientific explanation. Sure, Star Wars was a bit schlocky as fit its theme of the old serials, but it also did amazing world-building. It presented the idea, somewhat novel to SF, than maybe all this technology wouldn't change anything important about society.

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    195. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Martian wasn't a Science Fiction movie it was a comedy. Or possibly a musical.
      I mean - that's what it won the Golden Globe for right? So it MUST be a comedy (or a musical)!

    196. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a computer. I'm a computery guy. Everything made out of buttons and wires.

    197. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a manga: "All you need is kill".

    198. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your opinion is in fact a logical fallacy - default bias. Just because your society in the last 50-60 years hasn't experienced a major event of annihilation doesn't mean that others haven't, or that yours can't. While tomorrow for you most likely will follow the same as today, don't count on it; history shows that every once in a while it won't, often suddenly and with drastic consequences.

    199. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Can't speak for the person you are replying to; but,I thought the book overall was OK, the plot was interesting, I found the writing style abhorrent, but the plot very interesting.

      I think the book would have been an all time classic if written by a better author with the same plot ideas.

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    200. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by brokenin2 · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      I appreciate that they didn't dumb everything down, and that they had actual characters and a story.... and a realistic view of science.

      Most of the time when something is "invented" in a sci-fi movie, it's all about pretty lights and special effects. In real science new inventions usually look relatively boring. The second and third versions get the LED treatments and the fancy paint jobs..

      Ya know, I could go on all day about what Primer does right.. That's why it's my favorite by far.

    201. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Wintermute__ · · Score: 1

      The Kalevala

    202. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Space Odyssey is practically unwatchable because it's so full of anachronisms.

      FWIW I don't find that to be true. I watched 2001 again just last year and enjoyed it as usual.

    203. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There was no theology or mysticism or significant philosophy in Avatar. Everything that looked like it was in reality jacking into another computer or the big server that runs the planet.

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    204. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please no, Hollywood has ruined enough already without running The Culture through their "steal a theme to overlay onto Hollywood Default Shit Movie Template #1" sausage machine.

    205. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by rholtzjr · · Score: 1

      And you type your comment on a what? And stop lights are controlled by what? And your bank account is controlled by what? Need more examples?

      We just haven't gotten to the apocalypse part ..... yet.

    206. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by invid · · Score: 1

      And you type your comment on a what? And stop lights are controlled by what? And your bank account is controlled by what? Need more examples?

      We just haven't gotten to the apocalypse part ..... yet.

      I didn't say we weren't heading for a computer controlled apocalypse. I just said that I was sick of being told my future was fucked when I was a kid in the 70s. If you want to know how much I agree with you, read my dystopian teen romance, Girl in a Fishbowl.

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    207. Re:Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Telephones aren't conscious, and we rally support from people using those all the time.

    208. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Oh wow, I'd never heard of that before. Basically exactly like that.

    209. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      In some of the outside scenes i remember that rocks were falling very slowly, that made me sure that they are on the moon.

      Ah yes, but but we mostly saw the slow falling rocks as viewed as from the cameras inside the habitat. During the movie I figured that bit could have been CGI to convince the guy that he was on the moon, though in hindsight I guess that wasn't the best of logic.

      I do like your premise as well, I wonder why someone would do that though, except for "to experiment".

      That's what I was hoping to see in the big reveal during my first watchthrough :P I could think of a bunch of reasons though. Reality TV show (I just learned from another commenter that this was actually done in 2005), some kind of twisted experiment, some kind of legit experiment gone wrong (e.g. some apocalyptic scenario happened outside and it was just computers running things inside not knowing they should have stopped years ago), crazy billionaire finding ways to entertain himself...

    210. Re: Golden age of remakes maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry but the orbital mechanics is wrong. The "we never thought the food proteins would liquefy" loose a rocket.. And well a bunch of other stuff. Sorry. But its just not that accurate. All the way to even making water from hydrazine like that.. (hydrazine is poisonous in the ppm range!)

  2. Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bladerunner. The original with the overdubbing.

    1. Re:Bladerunner... by fwarren · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Agreed. I don't care that the movie is darker and more brooding and implies Deckard is replicant without the overdubbing. I don't care that Harrison Ford thought it was stupid to do the voice over and did it in the most passive aggressive monotone voice he could manage. Since the movie is shot in the film noir style, the monotone hardened detective voice over is perfect.

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    2. Re:Bladerunner... by e432776 · · Score: 1

      Agree on that! Blade runner was a classic.

    3. Re:Bladerunner... by gordguide · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Clearly.

      Like other great Sci-Fi (Fritz Lang's Metropolis, The Day The Earth Stood Still, Westworld (the original), etc) it remains entertaining to this day. Aside from being a great movie, the thing I find most remarkable about BladeRunner is that it is almost 30 years old but if you didn't know that, you might think it was made last year.

    4. Re:Bladerunner... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Seconded.
      Philip K. Dick stories have made for quite a lot of movies, including Blade Runner, Total Recall and Minority Report.
      The Radio Free Albemuth filmatization was kind of a flop, though. I just don't think the Valis theme translates well to the screen. Ubik might be hard too, with all the switching between probabilistic realities.

      Faith of our Fathers is a short story I'd love to see make it to a movie.

    5. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely my favorite. Get the 4 or 5 disc set and watch all the versions to see how it's changed over the years. Also get the book Future Noir to read a lot of great behind the scenes stories about the film. And don't forget to read the Philip K. Dick story on which Blade Runner is based.

    6. Re:Bladerunner... by rnturn · · Score: 1

      Heh... when that first came out, the wife and I saw it in a drive-in and it actually rained a bit while the movie was showing--perfect since it was raining in most of the exterior scenes. Great special effect you can't get at a cineplex.

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    7. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget A Scanner Darkly, Total Recall, and the Adjustment Bureau. And probably more. And if we relax the "movie" restriction, the TV series of The Man In The High Castle is excellent.

    8. Re:Bladerunner... by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      Also agree. This movie is special to me for two reasons. Firstly, I love stories about the rights and feelings of intelligent robots. Secondly, I first saw Bladerunner after it was released on video, and wished that I could have seen it on the big screen. Years later it was re-released into theatres and I got my wish!

      I'm pretty damned stoked about the upcoming sequel!

    9. Re:Bladerunner... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      Ubik will be PERFECT, once Ubik is applied directly to the film itself during editing. Safe when used as directed.

    10. Re:Bladerunner... by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Yep, that is probably at the top of my list as well.

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    11. Re: Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New Rose Hotel - William Gibson screenplay featuring Christopher Walken.

    12. Re:Bladerunner... by emaname · · Score: 1

      Emphatically agree! Blade Runner.

      I haven't seen the "over-dubbed" version. Not even sure what that is. I saw and still watch the original. Rutger Hauer knocks it out of the park. Harrison Ford is okay, too.

      I think I'd be interested in an updated version of "Forbidden Planet."

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    13. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fourthed, Fifthed, etc! I own all the variants of this flick, and without a doubt the original theatrical version with Ford's voiceover takes it.

    14. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I concur

    15. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I SO agree with you. I enjoy the movie more with the narration.

    16. Re:Bladerunner... by foolishness · · Score: 1

      Agree with this solely for the line by Roy "I want more life, fucker".

    17. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Get the 4 or 5 disc set and watch all the versions to see how it's changed over the years.

      Because I love the film, I respectfully refuse to do that!

    18. Re:Bladerunner... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Bladerunner. The original with the overdubbing.

      Seconded. When Blade Runner came out I had recently moved back home from Tokyo, so for me it was a nostalgia picture.

    19. Re:Bladerunner... by martinX · · Score: 1

      YES. I like the VO. It suits the style of the film perfectly.
      "She walked through my door like a tigress walks into a Burmese orphanage — strawberry blonde and legs for hours. No dame her age could afford a coat like that, and the kinda makeup she had on gave me a good idea how she got it. She had bad news written on her like October of '29."

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    20. Re:Bladerunner... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Blade Runner was a really good movie, in fact the first one I bought on DVD, way back, when you had to buy a decoder card to view it on PC. Not my all time favourite though, my all time favourite is a really good sci fi, that I get to watch for the first time. I wonder if they will ever come up with a way to selective delete memories, so I can watch Blade Runner for the first time over and over again ;).

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    21. Re:Bladerunner... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I think LOST owes more than just a little to Ubik.

    22. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fantastic! A free, lo-tech totally immersive experience - how wonderful :-)

    23. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep; the voiceover does indeed work perfectly for the genre. I'm unsure why people dislike it so much. Only problem with the voiceover version is the idiotic tacked-on hollywood ending. So I watch the voice-over version until the last few minutes, then switch to a version with a proper ending rather than a hollywood ending.

    24. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In one of the draft scripts, Deckard drives off with Rachel into the country, they settle down in a little cabin, and then he shoots her.

    25. Re:Bladerunner... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Water-immersive experience? ;)

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    26. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My totem science fiction story. Also, a special effects tour de force that was accomplished without computer special effects marking Ridley Scott as one of the all time great directors.

    27. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      35 years old

    28. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a classic but a boring and overrated one. Book is not better. I would say it is on par with alien: book is kinda boring, so is the movie.
      Atmosphere / special effect were great but that's it.

    29. Re:Bladerunner... by gnick · · Score: 1

      Bladerunner was a classic that in no way needed a sequel. That said, I'm all kinds of excited for the sequel.

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    30. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Attention paid shills! Please use fewer exclamation points as it exposes the advertising copy nature of your posts!

    31. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...the thing I find most remarkable about BladeRunner is that it is almost 30 years old

      Uh, you might want to check the math on that.

    32. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of my all time favorites for sure! Just this past weekend, my girlfriend told me that she'd never seen it, so I made her watch. She was surprised that the look of the movie has held up so well for something that was released in 1982 (so it's over 30 years old).

      I'm going to disagree with others in this thread about the original theatrical release, I prefer the Director's Cut without the voiceover. Yes, I've watched both versions multiple times and had only watched the original for years until the DC came along in the 90's.

    33. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bladerunner for sure although the whining replicants get a little tiresome. sandspur

    34. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolute Best. No Contest.

    35. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps THE RAPTURE & THE HELLSTROM CRONICALS do not fit into scifi slot -- but then what does ? Both imagine ultimate causes and active solutions of pure '... spaceships burning off the Arcturas horizon ...' memes.

    36. Re:Bladerunner... by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

      Excellent, but that falls into the more niche category, SF Noir!

    37. Re:Bladerunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me, the original Planet of the Apes, Dr Strangelove, and the original Robocop stand out!

    38. Re:Bladerunner... by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      I find most remarkable about BladeRunner is that it is almost 40 years old

      FTFY.

  3. Project Atlas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very cool movie, very good ending.

    1. Re:Project Atlas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What movie? Cloud Atlas? Project Almanac?

    2. Re:Project Atlas by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      District Moon.

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    3. Re: Project Atlas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll vote for Close Encounters as the most overrated ever.

    4. Re: Project Atlas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember loving _Close Encounters_ as a kid, but when I revisited it as an adult, there's not much substance there. It's basically just a Spielberg sense-of-wonder visual extravaganza.

    5. Re: Project Atlas by Megane · · Score: 1

      The scene with the spaceship and playing the music is awesome (I read that one of the Arp synthesizer guys was actually cast as one of the music crew), the mashed potatoes scene is funny, everything else I guess is meh. But a few scenes does not make a great movie. Overrated? Perhaps, but at the time it was really hyped.

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  4. The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Corny, but a classic to enjoy for all time.

    1. Re:The Fifth Element by chispito · · Score: 1

      That one has a lot of cross over appeal, too.

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    2. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But still a riot to watch.

      No hidden messages. Just cheesy fun.

      Besson has a knack for getting A-list actors, then giving them a project in which they clearly enjoy themselves.

    3. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corny, but a classic to enjoy for all time.

      No P.O.T.A. mentions yet?

    4. Re: The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Planet of the Apes lost some luster with all the sequels, I think it's very under appreciated.

    5. Re:The Fifth Element by mfh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Whenever this comes on tv, I stop and watch it. I can't help myself and I can't think of any other sci-fi that has the same grip on me.

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    6. Re:The Fifth Element by rholtzjr · · Score: 0

      Do not agree with no message. Hidden message: Even though you may be searching for an ideal life, there will always be someone out there who has ideals that are polar opposite of yours. And neither of you will know WHO the other is or may never meet face to face with the person(s) who is screwing up your ideal life. But each of your and their actions has an effect on each other. Some call this fate, however I call this cause and effect.

    7. Re: The Fifth Element by rholtzjr · · Score: 1

      I remember the first one hitting the theaters in the late 60's. All the theater staff had on gorilla masks. Charlston Heston classic.

    8. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do not agree with no message. Hidden message: Even though you may be searching for an ideal life, there will always be someone out there who has ideals that are polar opposite of yours. And neither of you will know WHO the other is or may never meet face to face with the person(s) who is screwing up your ideal life. But each of your and their actions has an effect on each other. Some call this fate, however I call this cause and effect.

      Come to think of it "The 5th Element" is the only movie I can think of where the main hero and main villain never actually meet face-to-face.

    9. Re:The Fifth Element by umghhh · · Score: 1

      And it did not pretend to be solving some issue which it could not etc. By 3rd watching the war is evil message gets a little annoying - I mean we have all the tech not because we are peace loving animals with a tick for sick humour and brutality. Sadly we exaggerate at latest getting eventually in senseless violence. Still that is what made us conquer all there is on earth. We destroy it at the end of course. The movie was fun to watch and then again. Perfect - I cannot say it about many other movies from last decade.

    10. Re: The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original Planet of the Apes popularity probably declined because the lead actor Charlton Heston was the president of the NRA, so some people tend to boycott things with actors who express unpopular opinions. Though he's amazingly popular with alt-right neocons.

      From a Sci-Fi standpoint, it doesn't really hold up, though the remake kinda botches the entire thing.

      "It was earth all along" is pretty much all it's known for (and the "damn dirty apes" line.)

      The Omega Man (and it's remake "I am Legend") is probably more underrated. By todays standards the story seems as plausable as it was during the cold war.

    11. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great Movie!

    12. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

      It was the first movie that made me realize that the way you cut scenes can be just as important as writing, acting, directing, etc. (And that you can be goofy and serious at the same time.)

    13. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come to think of it "The 5th Element" is the only movie I can think of where the main hero and main villain never actually meet face-to-face.

      Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. "Kirk and Khan never confront each other face-to-face during the film. All of their interactions are over a viewscreen or through communicators and their scenes were filmed four months apart."

    14. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did not think it was the best movie ever until I saw it for the fifth time: great costumes, Bruce Willis plays the ultimate man redeeming himself and saving the world, Inva Mula's opera, Chris Tucker plays the craziest character in any movie, Milla Jovovich is so beautiful, vulnerable, funny and she kicks butt, ....

    15. Re:The Fifth Element by wickerprints · · Score: 2

      Chris Tucker's performance in this movie was well worth the price of admission.

    16. Re:The Fifth Element by gravewax · · Score: 2

      must say this is also the first sci fi movie that pops to mind when I think of favourites. It is fun, has great timing and editing throughout the whole movie and it is a movie I can watch again every year or so and still enjoy it.

    17. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure if they're still available but they're showing it in theaters in mid-May, basically to bring attention to his next movie (Valerian).

      Got tickets already, I never saw it in theaters and am super stoked to experience it.

    18. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely agree - TFE is always worth a watch!
      Super Green!

    19. Re:The Fifth Element by bettodavis · · Score: 1

      Agree. This movie is still pretty watchable and entertaining twenty years later.

      The French comic-book inspired look and feel makes it almost ageless.

      That's why I'm also waiting for Luc Besson's next comic-book movie extravaganza, "Valerian".

    20. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      _The Fifth Element_ used to be the MAIN video used to sell high end AV!

    21. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Chris Tucker's performance in this movie was well worth the price of admission.

      That's the only movie I can stand Chris Tucker in. It's like the part of Chris Tucker was written for Ruby Rhod. :)

      "What you screamin' for? Every five minutes there's somethin', a bomb or somethin'? I'm leavin'!!"

    22. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have got to be Kidding.... this is one of the worst Movies, right up there with "The Last action Hero"
      The only reason to like this movie is because you first saw it when you were to young to know. it was a BAD BAD fantasy, in space, NOT science Fiction.

      Taking Place in Space, does NOT make a Science Fiction Plot... STAR WARS is NOT Science Fiction. it is Space Fantasy. The Fifth Element was Bad fantasy

    23. Re:The Fifth Element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife and I love this movie as well. The plot is terrible and cliched, but the "world" is so beautiful and intricately nuanced that I seem to find something new each time I watch it.

    24. Re: The Fifth Element by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      This annoys me. I watch TV and Movies for the actors, not their political beliefs.
      The majority of actors and actresses don't agree with me politically. But I'm not paying to watch their politics. I'm paying to watch a movie.
      BTW: in the remake of POTA, the ending is taken from the original novel.

  5. Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Starship Troopers. We can end all discussion now. It's about the greatest movie ever made. Anyone who disagree is a bug lover.

    1. Re:Starship Troopers by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      seconded

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    2. Re:Starship Troopers by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would like to know more.

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    3. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. It made me want to grab a riding crop, dress like a leatherdaddy, and touch smart bugs in bad places.

    4. Re:Starship Troopers by Jogar+the+Barbarian · · Score: 1

      Ugh. It was on its way to a good idea, but warp-speed asteroids? Body armor that may as well have been regular clothing for all the good it did? This was a frustrating movie.

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    5. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't that part of the point? The idiocy of it all, government incompetency, contemporary views of space travel, etc.

    6. Re:Starship Troopers by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Body armor that may as well have been regular clothing for all the good it did? This was a frustrating movie.

      I always wondered why they even bothered to wear the body armor when it couldn't even stop their own weapons, not to mention the bugs themselves. That and the fact that none of the rifles even had sights kind of blew my mind. When you are fighting as infantry against thousands and hundreds of thousands of enemies, spraying and praying is really not the best idea. And, for a semi-fascist, military-industrial complex led society, they surprisingly had no idea of combined arms tactics. No armored vehicles, no air support, no artillery. Just lots and lots of people. It was like the WWII-era Red Army in space. The closest thing they had was the bombing run on the one planet followed up by an infantry attack, but clearly the staff officer school for the Federation military doesn't go into much detail on WWI or WWII, otherwise they would have realized that pre-attack bombardments are pretty useless against enemy combatants that are entrenched or bunkered underground.

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    7. Re:Starship Troopers by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      If you think the story of Starship Troopers was how they fought the war then you missed the point of the movies. They were meant as social commentaries.

    8. Re:Starship Troopers by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      The lack of vision in Starship Troopers is astonishing. The best weapon they can come up with is a machine gun?

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    9. Re:Starship Troopers by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      A essay could probably be written about how they fought the war is a commentary in and of itself. "Marching infantry columns" would be anachronistic today, let alone in the future.

    10. Re: Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that was not the point of it all. Read the book. Robert Heinlein wrote a very clear story with a clear message. The movie ruined everything Heinlein tried to convey.

      Hint: he was an Academy graduate and US Naval officer. Discipline, civics, and earning the right to vote were not examples of an overly militarized society in the book. Unlike Ender's game, Heinlein's bugs were very clearly trying to eradicate humanity.

    11. Re:Starship Troopers by c8663 · · Score: 1

      I found the movie pretty stupid. All the MI (Mobil Infantry) would huddle together like 8 year old playing soccer. In Heinlein's book the MI would spread out in a line about 1 mile apart.

      Also the female lieutenant junior grade that was piloting the space ship out of dry dock in a very reckless manner would have been kicked of the bridge in a heart beat.

    12. Re:Starship Troopers by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      If you think the story of Starship Troopers was how they fought the war then you missed the point of the movies. They were meant as social commentaries.

      I get that. Hence my whole "semi-fascist, military-industrial complex led society" comment. But even railing against the military-industrial complex, the MIC would want combined arms, massive bombardments, and lot of mechanized vehicles involved in combat, because that means more munitions consumed and more vehicles to replace: ie, more profits. Hell, even ISIS and the FSA have and use armored vehicles, or at the very least have a couple machine guns welded on the back of a truck. No one does infantry-only attacks any more unless they have no other option. And the Federation certainly had options. To top it off, no authoritarian/fascist government that just wants cannon fodder (which the MI in the movie certainly was) would go through the effort to give them as much training as the movie suggested they did. Too expensive and inefficient.

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    13. Re:Starship Troopers by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      I found the movie pretty stupid. All the MI (Mobil Infantry) would huddle together like 8 year old playing soccer. In Heinlein's book the MI would spread out in a line about 1 mile apart.

      Well, when your standard issue infantry rifle doesn't even have sights on it, the only way to put out any kind of effective firepower is through a firing line. Otherwise you aren't going to hit anything. And if theMI had gone up against anything other than those bugs whose primary method of attack was an en masse charge they would have been slaughtered even worse than they were on Klendathu.

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    14. Re:Starship Troopers by zlives · · Score: 1

      yes but the book also had marines in power armors with tactical nukes...

    15. Re:Starship Troopers by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!

    16. Re:Starship Troopers by barc0001 · · Score: 2

      >warp-speed asteroids

      Between that and the massive defense ring protecting Earth and yet conveniently an asteroid still flattened a not too important city (in the global scheme) you didn't figure out that it was a false-flag attack designed to whip up public fervor?

      As for the body armor, of course you want casualties, you need to show that this is a horrific conflict that will take the entirety of your people standing as one to defeat some bugs (that didn't even attack you to begin with). Plus materially speaking dead people cost less resources than wounded casualties that need medical services.

    17. Re:Starship Troopers by suutar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Remember, the movie wasn't based on the book - it was developed under a different title and then changed for name recognition.

    18. Re:Starship Troopers by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      I have seen SST a few times, and my friends and I discussed it quite a lot at the time and here was some of the things that we came up with:

      No, they didn't use gun sights because they were firing smart bullets that would track targets within maybe 3 degrees divergence of their fired direction. This would allow you to spray and still consistently hit the target.

      What we perceived as body armor due to the low budget of the film was actually supposed to be smart gear, carrying ammo, locator beacons for friend or foe ID, food, water, battery pack, etc (I don't remember them all carrying backpacks, just a few and those probably had LAW or HE charges or other specialized hardware). Body armor only makes sense if it protects you from your enemy, and you pay a price for carrying the extra weight and loss of mobility. The bugs were able to punch through like an inch of steel at the overrun compound, so likely the choice was made for greater mobility vs body armor that was not survivable anyway in combat with bugs.

      The only benefit to armored vehicles and artillery are greater firepower and protection from small arms. The bugs didn't use small arms, and the soldier with a LAW rocket has just as much firepower as a tank or artillery piece. The rifles that ever soldier carried seemed to use explosive rounds as well and were very effective on the smaller bugs (at least getting through their exoskeleton). From a mobility standpoint, humans are better adapted to cross very rugged and varying terrain than vehicles, so the choice was probably made to just use infantry and leave the heavy vehicles behind, since they offered no benefit when fighting the bugs.

      Surface bombardment is ineffective against dug in opponents, up to a point, but those explosions on the surface were clearly visible and big even from space (covering like 2% of the planet's surface each), so we are talking massive gigga-ton level explosions, at which point, just the translated shock-wave would probably liquefy anything buried underground, no matter how deep (there is a limit to how deep you can dig because you eventually reach the mantle and molten rock).

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    19. Re:Starship Troopers by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      I have seen SST a few times, and my friends and I discussed it quite a lot at the time and here was some of the things that we came up with:

      No, they didn't use gun sights because they were firing smart bullets that would track targets within maybe 3 degrees divergence of their fired direction. This would allow you to spray and still consistently hit the target.

      Except remember there was the one propaganda video where the soldiers were interacting with kids and showing them the rifle. They handed out handfuls bullets that were clearly dumb projectiles. And I think in the attack on Whiskey Outpost when the bugs are charging you can see bullets kicking up dust around the bugs where they are missing.

      What we perceived as body armor due to the low budget of the film was actually supposed to be smart gear, carrying ammo, locator beacons for friend or foe ID, food, water, battery pack, etc (I don't remember them all carrying backpacks, just a few and those probably had LAW or HE charges or other specialized hardware).

      The ones carrying backpacks were medics (the radio was a backpack as well). And they did have pouches for ammo, grenades, and most probably rations. After the first battle with the Roughnecks it shows rations, supplies, and shelters in containers that were probably dropped after the battle, so no need for the soldiers to carry packs.

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    20. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how is this flamebait???

    21. Re:Starship Troopers by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      Body armor that may as well have been regular clothing for all the good it did? This was a frustrating movie.

      Star Wars must really frustrate the shit out of you then!

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    22. Re:Starship Troopers by war4peace · · Score: 1

      The book was fucking awesome though.

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    23. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you are fighting as infantry against thousands and hundreds of thousands of enemies, spraying and praying is really not the best idea.

      Uh, no. If you're going toe to toe against a numerically superior enemy, the ONLY good idea is to retreat. If you can't retreat, then the only thing left is to put out a massive volume of fire in the hopes that you can make your position prohibitively expensive for the enemy to capture. In other words, you put out the highest rate of fire you can put down-range, which means, essentially, spraying and praying into the mass of the enemy soldiers trying to overwhelm your position.

      Taking 2-3 seconds per shot trying to get some sort of foolish "one shot one kill" trophy is suicide in a situation like that. You put out the highest volume of fire you can for as long as you can.

      otherwise they would have realized that pre-attack bombardments are pretty useless against enemy combatants that are entrenched or bunkered underground.

      You complain that there was "no air support, no artillery," and then you talk about how dumb they were to do a bombing run which is "pretty useless against enemy combatants that are entrenched or bunkered underground."

      From this, we may conclude that you have no real understanding of military doctrine yourself, and are just mindlessly parroting something you read on 4chan.

    24. Re:Starship Troopers by slew · · Score: 1

      Body armor that may as well have been regular clothing for all the good it did? This was a frustrating movie.

      I always wondered why they even bothered to wear the body armor when it couldn't even stop their own weapons, not to mention the bugs themselves. That and the fact that none of the rifles even had sights kind of blew my mind. When you are fighting as infantry against thousands and hundreds of thousands of enemies, spraying and praying is really not the best idea. And, for a semi-fascist, military-industrial complex led society, they surprisingly had no idea of combined arms tactics. No armored vehicles, no air support, no artillery. Just lots and lots of people. It was like the WWII-era Red Army in space. The closest thing they had was the bombing run on the one planet followed up by an infantry attack, but clearly the staff officer school for the Federation military doesn't go into much detail on WWI or WWII, otherwise they would have realized that pre-attack bombardments are pretty useless against enemy combatants that are entrenched or bunkered underground.

      FWIW, Movie director Paul Verhoeven has stated that he never read the Heinlein book and instead movie drew heavily from his experience in Nazi-occupied Netherlands (which among other things morphed the "federal service" from a switzerland-like idea to a fascist-like concept).

      One (of many) of the big points of divergence is that in the original story, the infantry armor was *powered* armor and a major plot device (that idea was unused in the original movie adaptation). Also, the original story glorified the role of the infantry, so of course all the story lines revolve around the infantry and told from that point of view. One of the military ideas explored by the book is the idea of a hybrid infantry/armored fighting unit (based on powered armor) and the fighting tactics such a unit might use, but this idea is of course totally lost in the movie adaptation.

    25. Re:Starship Troopers by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      The lack of vision in Starship Troopers is astonishing. The best weapon they can come up with is a machine gun?

      No, that was cheaping out on the effects. That's why there was no power armor.

    26. Re: Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That seems to be a failing of much sci-fi: the weapons are barely adequate and not much different from those of the present day.

    27. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a fantastic movie, so under-rated. It's top one of mine because it's so tongue in cheek, yet delivers in so many interesting ideas - in particular I like the "you are not a citizen until you have performed a service to the state - then you get rights, like bearing children, going into politics, etc. Quite enlightening.

      Shame it came out same year as "Titanic". It was up for an Oscar for Best Digital Effects and lost to Titanic. I compare the digital effect in both movies and Titanic does not rate to what was cranked out in Starship Troopers.

      If asked to describe it: I say "90210 go to space and kill giant bugs" :)

    28. Re:Starship Troopers by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I get the impression that the director wanted all combat scenes to be some sort of parody instead of making sense.
      The book inspired an entire genre of piloted robot anime where even the worst made more sense than the combat in the Starship Troopers movie IMHO. Things such as "Knights of Sidonia" owe a lot to the Starship Troopers novel.

    29. Re:Starship Troopers by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      If you think the story of Starship Troopers was how they fought the war then you missed the point of the movies. They were meant as social commentaries.

      The point of the movies were not the same as the point of the original story. They weren't about commentary but about entertainment.

    30. Re:Starship Troopers by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      Body armor that may as well have been regular clothing for all the good it did? This was a frustrating movie.

      I always wondered why they even bothered to wear the body armor when it couldn't even stop their own weapons, not to mention the bugs themselves. That and the fact that none of the rifles even had sights kind of blew my mind. When you are fighting as infantry against thousands and hundreds of thousands of enemies, spraying and praying is really not the best idea. And, for a semi-fascist, military-industrial complex led society, they surprisingly had no idea of combined arms tactics. No armored vehicles, no air support, no artillery. Just lots and lots of people. It was like the WWII-era Red Army in space. The closest thing they had was the bombing run on the one planet followed up by an infantry attack, but clearly the staff officer school for the Federation military doesn't go into much detail on WWI or WWII, otherwise they would have realized that pre-attack bombardments are pretty useless against enemy combatants that are entrenched or bunkered underground.

      You'd think that by this time, they'd have thousand-gigaton nukes that could penetrate deep into the ground or even better/simpler, the means to rain 1-ton balls of tungsten accelerated at, say, 10K/sec.

    31. Re: Starship Troopers by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      The book, what it contained, and what Heinlein may or may not have been trying to achieve, is irrelevant when considering the merits of the movie.

      In the same way, the existence of the movie has not spoiled any qualities that the book possesses.

      The Movie "Starship Troopers" is very great.

      The Movie "Enders Game" is very average.

    32. Re:Starship Troopers by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      WWII-era Red Army in space

      I think that may well have been on purpose. Paul Verhoven normally does things in his films for a reason.

    33. Re: Starship Troopers by paai · · Score: 1

      It is enlightening in itself how the book and the movie both are very, very good, how the movie follows the book much better than most movies do, and at the same time carries a totally different message.

      Heinlein is very convincing in his fascistoid meritocracy. Paul Verhoeven is equally convincing in the rejection of that philosophy. I am very glad to have read/watched both.

      Paai

    34. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Frustrating is an understatement! How about the bullpup rifles that are twice as long as they need to be?

    35. Re:Starship Troopers by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

      It looks like nearly everybody here missed the point of the movie. I missed it also, and then I watched RedLetterMedia cover it in this episode of re:View, and really felt humbled and disappointed that I completely missed the point of a brilliant piece.

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    36. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the fact that they had ships to travel to different galaxies but were still using a variation of a standard machine gun. No grenade launchers. No laser blasters. No robot armies. No defense shields. No chemical warfare -- how about dropping a massive canister of RAID? No massive weaponry on the space ships to fire down to the ground.

    37. Re:Starship Troopers by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Porkbarrel politics, a senator passed a law that forced the armour to continue to be manufactured and used because it creates jobs in his district.

    38. Re:Starship Troopers by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

      I love bugs so...Bad Taste.

      What? it's got aliens.

    39. Re:Starship Troopers by Maritz · · Score: 1

      I think the grunts on the ground "tactic" in Starship Troopers is essentially one long running gag. Everything they do seems to maximise casualties. They don't even spread their ships out in orbit, but keep them all tightly packed together (close enough to crash into each other when the rocks start smacking into them).

      If (about as big as "ifs" get) there was a real war against a bug like alien species, you'd just nuke the fuck out of their planet. Probably with cobalt tipped warheads to ensure the planet becomes uninhabitable. Failing that, how about some fucking robots? Bombardment from orbit? I mean just about anything other than "send a load of people down with guns" is preferable.

      Hilarious movie though.

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    40. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...spraying and praying is real..."

      Don't be jack'n with decades of FPS training.

    41. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Between that and the massive defense ring protecting Earth

      The spacedock ring around the moon, you mean?

    42. Re:Starship Troopers by Dripdry · · Score: 1

      The movie is great in one way, but pay attention to small details and the movie becomes a classic.
      The two sequels bear this out, about what's really going on in the Universe.

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    43. Re:Starship Troopers by jimbo · · Score: 1

      You guys take the movie far too seriously. It's meant as light comedy/satire. Just a fun time over a few beverages.

    44. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The book IS great but the movie sucks ass if you measure it against the book.

    45. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is what is sad about the movie/title: the movie and the book shared the title (and a common theme), but not the story.

      Starship Troopers is an amazing book that highlights the challenges that society faces in choosing its government and the difficulties of democracies. the movie has nothing to do with it, except that Earth is attacked by bugs...

    46. Re:Starship Troopers by tomkost · · Score: 1

      The only thing good about Starship Troopers was the naked shower scene. Robert Heinlein is still rolling in his grave... He would have liked the shower scene btw, he was in the end a rather dirty old man.

    47. Re:Starship Troopers by ZayJay · · Score: 1

      ST was too campy to be a "Greatest" movie IMHO. So I guess I'm a bug lover. Also the violence was hard for many to take (I am excluding myself) I think another ultra-violent movie (non-SF warning) that came out at the same time as Starship was "Saving Private Ryan." C'mon was ST greater than that?

    48. Re:Starship Troopers by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Lemme talk about the book. Heinline experimented with a lot of stuff. He wrote a couple of utopia novels. Like "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is a libertarian utopia. Their ideal. It assumes their world-view is simply correct. Same with his Starship Troopers. He assumes pro-military jingoism is the correct world-view and writes a story from there. It's ok. An interesting read if you can suspend your disbelief. At least it's not as crazy as his latter books.

      The movie on the other hand is different. The director didn't even read all the book and stopped in disgust. And he was already making a Man-vs-spaceBug movie. Corporate acquired the rights to the name because it was so similar, and thought the authors name would help. I dunno, maybe that's just a bit of hollywood narrative and they knew it was Starship Troopers the entire time but only officially got the rights later.

      Anyway, the director hated the Jingoism having first-hand experience with fascists. What parts of the book he incorporated he used as satire. He was making fun of fascists in an over-the-top "look how ridiculous they are" sort of way. Blind patriotism, big-brother knows best, blatant propaganda, brainwashing children. ....And then people took it seriously.

      People who really like Starship Troopers are like people who worship Pastafarianism as a real legit religion and don't think it's a joke. And this sort of "my way or the high way" attitude is the EXACT sort of in-character tongue-in-cheek praise that I'm positive goes right over some people's heads. It's like the movie version of Poe's Law.

    49. Re:Starship Troopers by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      It was like the WWII-era Red Army in space.

      You are, to a very great degree, maligning the WWII-era Red Army. Probably closer to the Nationalist Chinese armies of the period.

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    50. Re:Starship Troopers by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      What do you expect? Like they do in other movies with spacecraft of superluminal speeds and radio comms that propagate faster than lightspeed (with broadcast quality audio) with directed energy weapons but still have to aim like a 18th century cannon, but miss much of the time?

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    51. Re:Starship Troopers by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Starship Troopers. We can end all discussion now. It's about the greatest movie ever made. Anyone who disagree is a bug lover.

      You mean bug hunt on planet 9 or whatever? It was a pretty decent flick but would have been a lot better if it was actually anything like starship troopers other than a few names and places.

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    52. Re:Starship Troopers by Gussington · · Score: 1

      I always wondered why they even bothered to wear the body armor when it couldn't even stop their own weapons

      You're over thinking it. My take was that ST was deliberately stupid in a Beverly Hills 90210 in space type fashion. The real point was more a political stab at the way we approach war.

    53. Re:Starship Troopers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use cases should never be treated as a known quantity. Off the cuff, say you fall down a small cliffside. Or deflect a glancing strike. Debris. I dunno.

      That said, your core point stands, the armor's dumb. The benefits (eg above) are fringe and a waste of materials. Pick a lighter, more flexible, dexterous armor. If the grunts are tuned for that weight, replace it with more gear. A water bottle. Anything.

      Conclusion: bcus tacticool

  6. young frankenstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think you can get any better than young frankenstein

  7. Star Wars by jader3rd · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Star Wars

    1. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Wars isn't science fiction, it's a drama that just happens to be set in space.

      It's also hugely over-rated, but targeting the lowest common denominator is the best route to financial success.

    2. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 8 year olds have spoken!

    3. Re:Star Wars by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Star Wars easily. If you saw it back in when it was released, it was a life changing event!

      So many other great ones out there too, I'm enjoying the majority of the lists so far. But nobody has mentioned the original scary monster space movie:

      Alien

      And I don't think I've seen any of the big Japanese anime films mentioned so within my top 2 or 3 is:

      Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind

      Finally, my favorite during my college days, even the trailer blew me away:

      The Matrix

    4. Re:Star Wars by k6mfw · · Score: 2

      Where spacecraft traveling interstellar distances at superluminal speeds. Engage the enemy like WWII fighters (well Steven modeled manuveurs from that war's combat footage), larger ships engaged each other like 18th century navies. And it had flaming fireballs and thunderous explosions in the vacuum of space, yeah!

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    5. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God, will you hipster douche bags STOP with this "Star Wars isn't sci fi nonsense"?

    6. Re:Star Wars by gordguide · · Score: 0

      I was a teen when it first came out, and I have never seen it. At the time, I and my friends thought it stupid and infantile, with a Soap Opera for a plot. I have never seen any evidence we were wrong.

    7. Re:Star Wars by rnturn · · Score: 1

      That `ring' from the Death Star explosion has always bothered me. To this day I keep thinking they should have made that a spherical blast effect.

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    8. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realise that George Lucas doesn't call it sci-fi, right?

      That's because it's not sci-fi. I call it space opera. These are not the same thing.

    9. Re:Star Wars by skoskav · · Score: 1

      Star Wars (episodes IV to VI) are mostly fantasy. The films don't explore any of the tech, and the supernatural plays a huge role. Replace lightsabers with swords, X-wings with horses, jedi masters with wizards, and Vader with a black knight, then you'd have a King Arthur film.

      I still think especially IV and V are great films though.

    10. Re:Star Wars by magarity · · Score: 1

      It's also hugely over-rated

      Clearly you haven't seen the secret gem of the franchise: The Star Wars Holiday Special. That will change your mind as to how over-rated Star Wars is.

    11. Re:Star Wars by skoskav · · Score: 1

      I think that the ring explosion you're talking about was added in one of the terrible Special Edition releases. See a comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Unless you own a VHS or Laserdisc release, the easiest way you're going to see Han shooting Greedo unprovoked is by torrenting either a the fan made Despecialized Edition (cobbled together from different sources) or the Silver Screen release (based on a recently-discovered 35mm print).

    12. Re:Star Wars by lgw · · Score: 1

      I disagree with that a bit. The plot is basic fantasy schlock, sure, but the world created was very much science fiction - great world building. Even the first movie explored the impact of technology in IMO an interesting way: the message was that people are people (sentients are sentients?), and since most of our problems are self-inflicted, tech won't change anything important. You'll still have dirt farmers, you'll still have dive bars, you'll still have people skirting the edges of the law, and assholes will still seize power.

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    13. Re:Star Wars by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is, you were in your rebellious angsty teenager phase?

    14. Re:Star Wars by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      That `ring' from the Death Star explosion has always bothered me. To this day I keep thinking they should have made that a spherical blast effect.

      I always assumed it was due to the way the exploding nuclear (or whatever it was) core was armored -- everywhere except around the middle, so that's where most of the energy came out.

      Well, that, and because it looked cool :)

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    15. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're going to include anime, don't forget:
      Akira
      Ghost in the Shell

    16. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alien?
      Talk about a 'fantasy' movie being labeled scifi. I first saw it on Movie Night in the dorm in college. I was in the Marine Corps when it came out, floating around the Pacific waiting for another Republican president to start a war, i.e. typical republican president behavior.
      The opening scene was so bad I was ready to leave. The crew has been in a suspend for months but there is a glass of water still half full (evaporation?) and unspoiled food on the table. The suspend system seems interconnect too. Where is the inherent redundancy a good systems engineer would design in? In the second movie they tell us the ship is expensive. They designed the suspend so poorly as to interconnect the suspend system? No a set designer wanted the clover leaf look for a scene they were going to use for a minute and a half. Poor movie direction and poor engineering all in one scene.
      The alien critter grows, after leaving it's human incubator (which confirms it eats organics) into something larger than a human on a spaceship in a day. It didn't eat bone so calcium isn't a requirement for it's structure I might add. Perhaps It grows carbon fiber for structural stability? Your spaceship carries extra calories and you don't notice the calories have gone missing? What did it eat? Cable wiring, seat pads? You don't design in extra mass in a spaceship for aliens to feast on. What was it eating until it got around to eating humans?
      Finally was the scene with all the chains hanging from the ceiling, dripping water. Really? Free water aboard a spaceship? What serious spaceship design team would make such a space possible? You actually have to truck the water to the top of the chains to dribble down. Why design in that feature? Worse if the system was broke it was one of the ship's engineers that was enjoying the feel of the water dripping on his head and face, like this was normal. I would be looking for the water faucet, what I was paid to do.
      A complete lack of science believability making this movie fantasy. Aliens III was right up with this movie I might add.
      At the first mistake I wanted to leave. My date wanted to watch. Sex overrides criticism I suppose. I actually think the movie was some type of underwater drama, mining sub station running into some ancient buried life that was reconfigure for 'space'. I think that year had two underwater suspense movies filming already.

      The Matrix was interesting but the idea of you dying in the Matrix and your body dies too? Dumb. Who would design such a system? A society that has airbag, seatbelts, child protective caps designs a V/R system without die in V/R protection? Really? I could understand stipulating to a really bad headache but dying in 'reality'? No.

    17. Re:Star Wars by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      There were categorizations made for different kinds of SciFi decades ago. Everything from hard boiled hard SF like Hal Clement to science-fantasy like the Gor series. SF has always been very broad, and so in that respect yes Star Wars is SF.

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    18. Re:Star Wars by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      They had the right idea with the ring, but the orientation was wrong, it should have been perpendicular to the camera and haloed around the original death star location because it is created by POV illusion. With a big detonation like that and then flames chasing an expanding wave front of fuel, the front of fuel and exploding gasses expands out in a sphere, but the edges of the sphere appear much more brightly because there is more plasma to be seen per viewing angle, vs straight through the middle of the sphere where you only see at most two thicknesses of the combustion front, front and back (assuming that is what they were going for).

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    19. Re:Star Wars by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Not sure if trolling or just really sad.

      Assuming not a troll, it truly was your loss. In trying to be "cool" you missed out on one of the greatest movies of all time. That said, I don't recommend you see it now, you will just sit there and pick apart every minor flaw and not enjoy the movie.

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    20. Re:Star Wars by tigersha · · Score: 1

      You have never seen Star Wars? Seriously, you should check into a lab. Do people like you even exist?

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    21. Re:Star Wars by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Where spacecraft traveling interstellar distances at superluminal speeds. Engage the enemy like WWII fighters (well Steven modeled manuveurs from that war's combat footage), larger ships engaged each other like 18th century navies. And it had flaming fireballs and thunderous explosions in the vacuum of space, yeah!

      The light speed was definitely a misnomer, but I remember reading somewhere that they wanted to avoid a lawsuit from Paramount over similarities with the original Star Trek (thus they didn't use warp speed as a term). They still got sued (and won) over similarities with Battlestar Galactica.

      The combat style and sounds were adapted primarily for theatrical purposes. However, if you want to see a great, realistic space battle, the expanse has a great one here, but it required a lot more CGI and special effects than were available at the time of Star Wars and though they did a good job with the realism, there is no crowd pleasing explosion, thundering engines or gut wrenching bullet sounds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Compared to Star Wars space fights like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      The BSG reboot sits somewhere in the middle, but their space battles are also great and exciting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    22. Re:Star Wars by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The Matrix

      I agree. This blew my mind. I wish they made a sequel.

    23. Re:Star Wars by slew · · Score: 2

      That `ring' from the Death Star explosion has always bothered me. To this day I keep thinking they should have made that a spherical blast effect.

      Then watch the *original* or *revisited* version (if you can't find it, here's a clip comparing them). There is no 'ring' explosion in the *original* or *revisited* version, only the "special" edition has that particular abomination...

      AFAIKT, this controversy is probably only second to the han-shot-first controversy...

    24. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re Alien, boy, you really didn't "get" it, did you?

      That said, yes there are some technical flaws but a number of them are just there to serve the purpose of telling the story visually, and I think Ridley Scott was much more concerned with the visual atmosphere than with technical accuracy.

      That big chamber with the dripping water where Brett gets taken? That's a landing gear compartment. The moisture is condensation dripping from the landing gear strut, which was retracted (very cold) into the compartment.

    25. Re:Star Wars by Miguelito · · Score: 1

      Just one of the things he added in his later releases.. it was not there originally.

      In fact, I think the first movie I recall seeing that "ring" shockwave effect was Star Trek VI.

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    26. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re. the Matrix, how come people who spent their entire life sleeping in a pod seemingly have normally developed muscles and are able to climb out of the pod and walk or run away? It seems like not only the pod has taken care of growing the body as if it had lived a normal life, but every minute thing experienced in the virtual life has consequences on the physical body, so much that a "reborn" person gets to keep the motor coordination skills learned in the virtual life. In other words, as in real life there's no separation between the mind and body. Although, using the DIY connection from a rebel/pirate ship would be problematic as it "only" taps into your nervous system, so it would lack any physical, chemical, heat/cold etc. stimuli provided by the pod. Which might as well make it more dangerous not less.

      What I like is thus, as far as I remember, there's no mind upload or no actual mind upload. There's a gross disregard for network latency, especially when connecting from a pirate ship or pirate lair. But there are no disembodied human beings that I remember of. I don't subscribe to ideas like that of Descartes that the body is an entirely mechanical machine and the mind is entirely abstract and pulls lever sitting from miles above. The one thing I hated about Avatar was the final scene where they do an unexplained mind upload between a human, a tree and a corpse or whatever it was.
      It's machine minds that have the ability to copy and transfer themselves, in the Matrix (seems to be Smith's specialty)
      Of course, Matrix then introduced divination - seeing the future (in the second or third film?). This is completely bunk and it has what looks like psychic powers at the end of third movie. That's the grossly unbelievable things in the movie and what I hated.

      Now it seems the psychic powers, divination, prophecy of a chosen one were stolen from Dune. Dune that's great Sci-Fi with an excellent world building (to re use that phrase from earlier posts), it basically revolves around magic though. Even though it's all magic and mysticism in the end, it's great how the author made it more believable by making it a universe with no computers at all (the computers having been exterminated after a great jihad) which spares the problem that in year 10000-something, computers or machines would rule everywhere and everything and so there would be no story to tell with emperors and families and dukes and navigators and reverend mothers etc.
      So, Matrix and Dune are two great franchises, one with computers and one without.

      Also, I liked the second Matrix movie better than the third. Like, I'm supposed to hate "Reloaded" because there's a car chase and so it's a pop corn movie and I must hate it? Well, and in particular the second time I saw it, I enjoyed it.
      The third one's all dark and gritty and more full of improbable shit like the suicidal "armors" and the psychic real world powers.

    27. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nausicaa is a great film. I'm surprised so little Japanese films have been mentioned here, other than GITS.

    28. Re:Star Wars by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 1

      That `ring' from the Death Star explosion has always bothered me. To this day I keep thinking they should have made that a spherical blast effect.

      Fairly certain the ring was not there in the original release. (I'm 100% sure someone here will correct me if I'm mistaken).

    29. Re:Star Wars by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Star Wars easily. If you saw it back in when it was released, it was a life changing event!

      I was 5 when I saw Star Wars in the theater with my parents. I started crying when Han fired the first shot. My mother turned to me with a stern look and demanded that I stop crying because she said I was embarrassing her. I couldn't. She pulled down my pants in front of the entire theater and beat me with my father's belt. Life changing? You could say that. To this day I have not kissed a girl and I haven't seen a movie in a theater since.

    30. Re:Star Wars by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      That's cool. Which films do you like?

    31. Re:Star Wars by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Poor movie direction

      Alien may have technical flaws, according to your understanding of what the best way to build a deep-space going cargo ship would be, but that doesn't mean the film is 'poorly directed'. In actual fact, the film is astonishingly well-directed, nigh-on perfectly paced, and totally brilliant in nearly every way that counts. Sure, there's a big room with dangling chains and dripping water (er, leaky pipes in a spaceship...?), but that has nothing to do with its effectiveness as an edge-of-your-seat monster-in-the-house movie.

      And if Alien is good, then Aliens is basically perfect.

      Matrix... blah blah ...Who would design such a system?

      Well, robots that care nothing for their human underlings, of course.

      A society that has airbag, seatbelts, child protective caps designs a V/R system without die in V/R protection? Really?

      The robots designed the Matrix system, not the humans. I don't think the robots bothered with airbags. I'm not defending The Matrix, I think it's a fairly silly film, but your criticisms don't make sense.

    32. Re:Star Wars by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      how come people who spent their entire life sleeping in a pod seemingly have normally developed muscles and are able to climb out of the pod and walk or run away?

      He didn't. He spent months in bed, connected to all manner of things to regenerate his body.

    33. Re:Star Wars by brantondaveperson · · Score: 2

      the han-shot-first controversy...

      There is no controversy. There is only the original.

    34. Re:Star Wars by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      The Expanse is amazing. And your clip was from season two, but fortunately I stopped watching before I hit any serious spoilers.

    35. Re:Star Wars by dehachel12 · · Score: 1

      >science fiction - great world building
      you realize that happens in fantasy too ?

    36. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the force --> fantasy.

    37. Re:Star Wars by WeBMartians · · Score: 1

      (I didn't find a The Expanse specific heading) I had really high hopes for The Expanse in that it was a SCIENCE fiction (much like The Martian) rather than a sciencey fantasy (Star Wars). The whole proto-molecule thing turned me off and I started being aware of glitches I would have ignored otherwise: slow motion projectiles, enormous interior room of the Rocinante, Bang and Olufsen headphones, Vixen Optics telescopes... Come on, Writers; you can do better than Harry Potter-esque (fantasy) cop-outs inherent with super technology (indistinguishable from magic; thank you Arthur Clarke)!

    38. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... does it have magic ?

    39. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Wars really isn't really "science fiction" now is it? I would classify it as a western set in space or "space opera".

    40. Re:Star Wars by Binestar · · Score: 1

      I don't get this whole "Han Shot First" push. The truth is that Han was the only one to shoot. No one shot second, so saying Han shot first is incorrect!

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    41. Re:Star Wars by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

      They just pump out so many it's hard to say favorite maybe?
      I see the usual Akira/GITS have already been mentioned so (in no order):
      Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san
      Manie-Manie Labyrinth Tales (Neo Tokyo)
      Robot Carnival
      Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou
      Roujin Z
      Iria - ZEIÐAM the Animation
      Jin-Roh
      Black Magic M-66
      OutLanders
      Macross Zero
      Tenamonya Voyagers
      Tamala 2010 - A Punk Cat in Space
      Space Family Carlvinson
      Fireball
      Wings of Honneamise
      Trava - Fist Planet

    42. Re:Star Wars by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Finally, my favorite during my college days, even the trailer blew me away:

      The Matrix

      What was so amazing about the Matrix, was back in the day before movie fandom blogs and production staff twitter accounts, you really had no idea what the movie was about going in. The trailer was Keanu dodging bullets and Larry Fishburne saying "Unfortunately...no one can be...told what the Matrix is." And then it says "What Is The Matrix?" and that's it. So I wanted to see it because it looked cool, and I wondered, "cool, they can dodge bullets...are they superheroes? Robots? Aliens? Guess I'll find out." And then it turns out the world is a computer simulation and they're super h4xx0rs and the only thing you can can say is "whoa."

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    43. Re:Star Wars by sfsp · · Score: 1

      Unprovoked? Greedo had a gun trained on Han's face, and had already said that Han's dead body was an acceptable substitute. Self-defense.

      Han shot first. But NOT unprovoked.

      That's just how things go in Mos Eisley.

    44. Re:Star Wars by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

      Han couldn't have fired the "first shot" as there was only one shot, so "Han fired the shot" or "Han fired first" would be more appropriate (I'm Canadian so I'm sorry for interrupting your troll).

    45. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Han shot solo!

    46. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad that I only remember the first version.

    47. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how come people who spent their entire life sleeping in a pod seemingly have normally developed muscles and are able to climb out of the pod and walk or run away?

      He didn't. He spent months in bed, connected to all manner of things to regenerate his body.

      I didn't get the impression it was months-- maybe more like 2-3 weeks?

      Anyway part of the Matrix premise is that the body is holistically linked to the mind, and the mind has its own innate ability to construct or influence reality. So if you are in a pod thinking you're walking around freely, your body evidently responds as if that's how you're really living.

    48. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, part of what bugged me about the Matrix is that the machines built the Matrix, but somehow don't have total knowledge and control of what happens in it. That didn't make much sense to me, but I think they were going for the idea that programs in the Matrix have their own independent minds and aren't gods in the virtual world.

    49. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...I have never seen it. ... I have never seen any evidence we were wrong.

      Well isn't that convenient.

    50. Re:Star Wars by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      So is telepathy, and you'll find that all over SF

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    51. Re:Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > So is telepathy, and you'll find that all over SF

      Yeah, it always kind of bugs me when Star Trek fans claim that Star Wars has magic, and ST doesn't.

      I'm like, have you ever seen "Where No Man Has Gone Before"?

    52. Re:Star Wars by lgw · · Score: 1

      You realize that the set dressing is really the only fundamental difference between most forms of genre fiction?

      LOTR defined fantasy for generations because of its incredible world building - the actual plot was awkward and poorly told. Star Wars defined SF for a generation at least for the same reason. People seem to think that because there was an adventure, it somehow wasn't SF. Sure, it wasn't even close to the "hard-SF" sub-genre, but so what?

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    53. Re:Star Wars by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      God, will you hipster douche bags STOP with this "Star Wars isn't sci fi nonsense"?

      It does lack a lot of the sci aspect, the fi it has in spades. Yeah it's got FTL, lasers and all that but it's all handwavium, It's basically fantasy in space. It takes more than space to be sci-fi

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  8. Don't neglect comedies! by theophylact · · Score: 1

    The Man in the White Suit meets all the criteria for science fiction, and it stars Alec Guinness and Joan Greenwood!

    1. Re:Don't neglect comedies! by hughbar · · Score: 1

      Yes agree, cynical and satirical too, not entirely a 'comedy'...

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    2. Re:Don't neglect comedies! by WalksOnDirt · · Score: 1

      I agree we shouldn't neglect comedies, which is why my favorite science fiction movie was Galaxy Quest. Honorable mention goes to Real Genius.

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    3. Re:Don't neglect comedies! by Megane · · Score: 1

      How have I never even heard of this film before? It sounds rather like The President's Analyst in terms of satire.

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  9. Logan's Run by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The greatest flick of course was 2001. But Logan's Run was charming and interesting and gave us a lot to think about. Star Wars (A New Hope) was a slickly produced space Western by comparison.

    1. Re:Logan's Run by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      2001 is a masterpiece - it's still what you can measure other movies against. Only a few details are dated but those are still not a problem when it comes to how well-done it is.

      And Logan's Run is pretty good too.

      For a dark near future I'd like to list Max Headroom. And I'd like to put in Star Trek, First Contact as one of the top choices as well since it also shows a darker perspective of the Trek universe. Dune (Lynch version) isn't as good on the special effects but it do have a certain aura that makes it enjoyable - but it's probably easier to "get" that movie if you have read the book first.

      Then there's "Enemy Mine" and "K-Pax" that both also are worth watching.

      Right now I'm waiting for Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets, and since I have been reading the comics I sure hope that the movie is going to be up to the standard of the comic books. But given that it's Luc Besson that made it there's a good chance. Only thing that puts me off is that Laureline isn't a redhead in the movie as can be seen in the trailer. I just realized that Rutger Hauer is in that movie as well, I just hope he's not too hard on decapitating people.

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  10. 2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    2001: A Space Odyssey
    Contact

    1. Re:2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too much religious faith bullshit in Contact to enjoy it.

    2. Re:2001 by chispito · · Score: 2

      Because Kubrick did meticulous research from flat screen displays and glass cockpits. Also had all actors be boring just like the characters they portrayed, i.e. people that do space are not expressive like most actors (compare 2001 to 2010). Of course Kubrick missed a few things, like Pan Am no longer exist, we ignored the Moon after 1972. But then I'm old enough to remember seeing this movie in 1968 shown at Century theatres on Winchester Blvd, a time when it seemed only obvious because soon we will have men walked the surface of the Moon. And many people were around to remember reading the news of first flight of Wright Bros and Lindbergh's transatlantic flight. By the time they were retirement age, they can ride an airplane that comfortably flies across continents or oceans. Hey when I'll be their age, I can do the same with space travel. But no, still waiting to see who will walk the surface of the Moon again, still waiting for my flying car (oh wait there's roadable airplanes I cannot afford). However, we got computers to enable me to rant on the forums (can't do that with a HAL9000).

      The actors were not boring because space, they were boring because all humans were bored. They had mastered the solar system and apparently weren't concerned with war or poverty any more. They were waiting to evolve, so to speak.

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    3. Re:2001 by aicrules · · Score: 2

      what a weird thing to say given how that is explored in the movie. It wasn't like the movie was preaching...it showed science and religion sometimes being at odds...kinda like it is in the real world.

    4. Re:2001 by kaizendojo · · Score: 1

      As someone who appreciates this film as much as I do (and saw the premiere as a child like you did), you owe it to yourself to watch this incredibly long and detailed series analyzing Kubrick's masterpiece in as much detail as he did with the movie. I guarantee you will be back here to thank me. This guy did an INCREDIBLE amount of research and tackles the film in a seven part series that is just brilliant.

      CinemaTyler series on the making of Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey: https://youtu.be/AgNyCluIRhA?l...

    5. Re:2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All totally true and agree wholeheartedly. My childhood is replete from seeing Sci-Fi movies at the old Century theaters on Winchester. I remember both SW Episode 5 & 6 (too young for 4), Total Recall, ALL the early Star Trek movies including the terrible later ones. I have a soft spot for the first Trek movie with "V'Ger" because some of the really long scenes with no dialog. Not the best movie, but great for a young imagination. Those old domes had a lot of formative and fond memories.

    6. Re:2001 by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      What is interesting or frustrating was Kubrick had all sets and props destroyed to prevent a sequel, I think (he may be right as 2010 was not great). What is interesting is HAL9000 singing "Daisy" was based on early IBM researchers doing synthetic voice and had their computer sing this song. Kubrick also consulted with fashion designers to get insight on what people will wear in 2001 (fashion is probably the most difficult to predict). Another breakthrough were the apes (early mankind) which at the time I thought those were trained apes because they were so realistic looking (unlike most films you can tell they were people in gorilla suits). There was Planet of the Apes costume design that was recognized at the Oscars (did they think Kubrick used real apes?), but then that film's costume design was creative because each ape had its own recognizable character (like the actors) and there was hierarchal status (gorilla, orangatan, chimpazee) where some were more equal than others.

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    7. Re:2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you not notice the persecuted martyr at the end, and her boyfriend's faith in the truth? I don't want Christian bullshit in my movies thankyou.

    8. Re:2001 by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It may just have been because I was expecting a lot, but this movie bored the shit out of me. I forced myself to watch it to the end just so I could say I'd seen it.

    9. Re:2001 by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      Did you also see the movie at Century theatres with the panoramic screen, stereophonic sound, snazzafrazza seats, and poppaphonic popcorn? I'll check out those youtube vids later.

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    10. Re:2001 by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      I agree that is boring, and I'm not sure what I'd do to make it better other than shorten it some. Overall, it was still a well-done movie. If Moon had been made in 68, perhaps I would have been more receptive to it. Creating it in 2009 just seems artificially wrong given where robots and AI are going.

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    11. Re:2001 by Ost99 · · Score: 1

      That's the book, not the movie.

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    12. Re:2001 by Megane · · Score: 1

      I saw it once at an IMAX in the late '90s. The picture was wider than my field of vision, and I had to turn my head to see both sides. Of course I sat in the center, halfway up. It was a great way to see one of the great 70MM movies.

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    13. Re:2001 by kaizendojo · · Score: 1

      My dad took us to the premiere in NYC. I forget the theater but I got the souvenir program (later thrown away by my Mom in a cleaning frenzy - I was a hoarder at a young age) and remember having to dress up in "Sunday clothes" to go see it. Definitely panorama-vision and hi end sound. I remember that clearly as it was one of the first times I ever saw a screen that wide. I think he got the tickets from one of the guys who invested in his business at the time.

      I think he felt it was important for us to see it and I know it sparked my interests in science and computers which shaped my career. Apparently he was right.

    14. Re:2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh they were concerned with war. The cut-scene from flying femur to orbiting satellite? The satellite is an orbiting nuclear weapon system.

    15. Re:2001 by proffmw · · Score: 1

      Boring? Space travel is slow. 3 days to the moon. Kubrick got that right. The ballet between the PanAm clipper and the space station (why don't they design them that way in reality?) to the accompaniment of the Blue Danube waltz is one of the most beautiful and graceful scenes ever shot (albeit long, slow, and boring).

    16. Re:2001 by occasional_dabbler · · Score: 1

      It's sort of perfect, and therefore boring. I always thought 2010 was a better film; there was a lot of hype over the accuracy of the weightlessness scenes.

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    17. Re:2001 by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      But you had to see it in the original Cinerama.
      The effect of the journey through the wormhole seen on the giant screen,
      including all of your peripheral vision, was staggering.

    18. Re:2001 by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Boring? Space travel is slow. 3 days to the moon. Kubrick got that right.

      True, but I don't have to watch it in real time, that's part of the beauty of film...

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  11. It's a toss-up by dugancent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Metropolis (1927) or The Fifth Element.

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    1. Re:It's a toss-up by mykepredko · · Score: 2

      Metropolis with the Queen soundtrack.

    2. Re:It's a toss-up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 for Metropolis. I was certain no one else would have mentioned that classic. Glad to see it already listed here.

    3. Re:It's a toss-up by Stephen+Chadfield · · Score: 1

      Giorgio Moroder not Queen - though Freddie Mercury does sing on it.

    4. Re:It's a toss-up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are mentioning Queen soundtracks, why not mention Flash Gordon, he saved every one of us.

    5. Re:It's a toss-up by Circlotron · · Score: 1

      Giorgio Moroder not Queen - though Freddie Mercury does sing on it.

      +10. I have a Giorgio Moroder Metropolis on VHS tucked away somewhere. Was lucky enough to see it at the cinema in September 1984. Instantly fell in love with Brigitte Helm.

    6. Re:It's a toss-up by Circlotron · · Score: 1

      If you are mentioning Queen soundtracks, why not mention Flash Gordon, he saved every one of us.

      And he only had 14 hours to do it. But that was with Ornella Muti telling the world she loved him :-P

  12. Matrix Revolutions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    duck'n'run...

    1. Re:Matrix Revolutions... by Jogar+the+Barbarian · · Score: 1

      Worth it just for the Battle of the Dock. Up to that point, it was the best live-action mecha I had ever seen. Fun, fun times.

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    2. Re:Matrix Revolutions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crash. Wam.

      It's a damn shame they never made any sequels to The Matrix.

    3. Re:Matrix Revolutions... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      That one wasn't a great example of movie-making but it was the necessary one, and actually makes the trilogy both actual SciFi and reasonable philosophy.

      Why? Because at the end of "The Matrix", Neo was flying around and shit, feeling all victorious. By the end of "Revolutions", Neo is in the "real world" doing supernatural stuff.

      Does that make him The One? Does that make him magical?

      No, it just means that the world that Morpheus helped Neo escape to was an outside fantasy, meant to contain those who could not accept the standard fantasy. There is no magic in the world of The Matrix. There's only the hard brutal reality of humans dominated by machines, and Neo can't do anything magical in the actual real world.

      This gets back to Neo being offered two choices - the red pill and the blue pill. It's because he makes his choice from the palette of choices offered that he fails.

      Do you want to vote red or vote blue? Pick one! But that "choice" is itself a means of control - to be free you have to make your own choices, and make the world what you want it to be on on your own terms. Be wary of anybody who offers you "freedom" on their terms.

      The Matrix trilogy was a tragic allegory about control. Stop at film 1 if you want to remain in the fantasy.

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    4. Re:Matrix Revolutions... by lgw · · Score: 1

      Really? WTF is the point of a mecha with no armor? That whole scene can only be explained by assuming that the machines gave the humans all their gear in the first place, to ensure they'd be useless when it came time to exterminate them. But then, I like that interpretation.

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    5. Re:Matrix Revolutions... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      I feel the same about Star Wars.

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  13. Don't know if it counts as sci-fi, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... tell me, how did you feel, being denied these hungry... hungry... hippos?

  14. Oldie but Goodie by s.petry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    2001 Space Odyssey. "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

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    1. Re:Oldie but Goodie by bobf0648 · · Score: 1

      Maybe the all time best "space" sci-fi movie!

    2. Re:Oldie but Goodie by secretsquirel · · Score: 1

      Well ya I mean that's just assumed. "Other than 2001" is more or less implied just by asking the question.

    3. Re:Oldie but Goodie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    4. Re:Oldie but Goodie by Hal9000_sn3 · · Score: 1

      I did enjoy that line.

  15. Serenity by JohnM4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Serenity

    1. Re:Serenity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Put Book front and center. He's our friend; we should honour him. Kaylee, find that kid who's taking a dirt nap with baby Jesus. We need a hood ornament.

    2. Re:Serenity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. I like to think that Serenity never happened, and that Wash and Book are still alive somewhere in the verse (also, RIP Ron Glass in real life).

    3. Re:Serenity by Rei · · Score: 1

      From the perspective of making more Firefly, the death of Ron Glass was really the best option of any of the cast. Because...

        * He wasn't in the crew before Serenity (the episode)
        * He left the ship after the episode "Objects in Space" around the same time Inara did, and apparently never traveled with the crew again (although they visited him from time to time)
        * He died in Serenity (the movie), so he's not around after that.
        * They could even handle one of the mentioned "visits" with him, because there were Serenity deleted scenes with him that are not specific to the plot of Serenity. Including a montage, which means that they have the individual clips used to make that montage. So long as the other actors haven't aged too much by then and the footage quality is roughly the same and/or can be remastered to match the ep's quality.

      On the other hand, Wash was around before Serenity (the episode) and remained with the ship up until his death. So any prequils or "in-between" eps would have him (again, so long as Alan Tudyk doesn't get too old.. obviously if they wait too long they have to recast.)

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    4. Re:Serenity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *cough* cowboy bebop *cough*

    5. Re:Serenity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nathan Fillion would have to lose a lot of weight to play Mal again. He ballooned up on Castle.

    6. Re:Serenity by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      A Firefly reboot is even easier than that.

      Mal and crew leave the Serenity and it goes back in mothballs. They go their separate ways. Could be done with narration and CGI or later as a flashback.
      New crew finds an old Firefly class in a mothball fleet and picks her up (the more echo of the initial series pilot the better here).
      As they are refitting the ship they discover one of the smuggler holds (no surprise to anyone since these were popular ships for that); and find something (plot device) epic that starts them on a quest to figure it all out.

      blah blah blah, ships plate was missing, is found, "Hey her name is Serenity!"
      "I remember a ship with that name, owned by a Browncoat that wouldn't give up"
      blah
      blah
      blah
      and off you go with a series reboot.
      Allows to bring in former cast as cameos, accounts for them being older, etc.

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    7. Re:Serenity by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      They've all aged 14 years already. It's way too late to continue the series where it left off.

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    8. Re:Serenity by Rei · · Score: 1

      Has it really been 14 years already? Geez....

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    9. Re:Serenity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serenity

      Watched Firefly on Netflix.

      Had Serenity on my Neflix list to watch as soon as I had a free evening to myself.

      The perfect evening arrived. I turned on Netflix to settle down to enjoy... and found that they'd pulled it from their catalog.

      Very VERY DISAPPOINTED.

    10. Re:Serenity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serenity

      Agree

  16. total recall by avandesande · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's one of the few movies that has actually become more though provoking over time. Sure it's full of cheese and an-old but great story.

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    1. Re:total recall by pastafazou · · Score: 1

      Um, where were you in 2012?

    2. Re:total recall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Get your ass to Mars...."

    3. Re:total recall by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Um, where were you in 2012?

      Hopefully somewhere watching better movies than that. Looper and Dredd came out that year.
      Even Avengers and John Carter if you feel like just turning off your brain and watching pretty things. Damn was Lynn Collins sexy in that.

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    4. Re:total recall by antdude · · Score: 1

      The original or the newer one? :P

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    5. Re:total recall by gravewax · · Score: 1

      When people refer to total recall I think that version has been collectively wiped from peoples memories. As corny (yet enjoyable) as the first one was, that remake is one of the worst remakes I have ever seen.

    6. Re:total recall by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Er, not watching the hideous remake?

    7. Re:total recall by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Paul Verhoven's science fiction record puts him near the top of the best science fiction directors of all time. I mean, sure it's only three movies, but damn they're all amazing.

    8. Re:total recall by bettodavis · · Score: 1

      You mean Arnie's 80s version, right?

  17. Silent Running... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Silent Running" has never been my favorite movie (it would probably "Outland" with Sean Connery). But it has more science fiction than a lot of science fiction movies that came before or after. It fit the 1970's environmental theme quite well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Running

    1. Re:Silent Running... by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

      I've already posted so I can't mod, but you're right. Not my favorite either but very deep.

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    2. Re:Silent Running... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not so sure there was that much science fiction in it- after all, they turned up a used sled, they didn't build their own.

    3. Re:Silent Running... by ErstO · · Score: 1

      Would vote for Silent Running, but only if they take out that Joan Baez song at the end

    4. Re: Silent Running... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That used to be my favourite film of any genre. Bruce Dern (an underrated actor) was excellent as the deranged-in-a-good-cause spaceman. I saw it in a double bill with Dark Star, another great 70s sci-fi film.

    5. Re:Silent Running... by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      yes, Bruce Dern plays the perfect environmental activist with intensity where you'd think in real life he will actually slug anyone anti-environmental in the mouth. Also this movie has the cute little robots before Star Wars.

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    6. Re:Silent Running... by tipo159 · · Score: 1

      Carl Sagan was not happy with the science in "Silent Running". From "Broca's Brain":

      After weeks of painstaking study and agonizing searches through botany texts, the solution is found: plants, it turns out, need sunlight. Trumbull's characters are able to build interplanetary cities but have forgotten the inverse square law. I was willing to overlook the portrayal of the rings of Saturn as pastel-colored gases, but not this.

      I like "Silent Running". I figured that Freeman Lowell was a little off his rocker and not thinking straight, which limited his ability to think through the problem of the plants dying, so can overlook him forgetting about the inverse square law.

    7. Re:Silent Running... by tscot · · Score: 1

      I also always thought it was very unrealistic to have overlooked the plants' need for light. BUT, the movie was ahead of the curve (movie-wise) in several areas including the spacecraft design, depiction of the spacecraft interiors (other than the need for willing suspension of disbelief in regard to gravity) and the use of the utilitarian robots that needed programming updates for new tasks (even if this was oddly accomplished). And, k6mfw, the robots *were* cute and sassy before R2-D2.

    8. Re:Silent Running... by tscot · · Score: 1

      And how! The music is nearly unbearable!

    9. Re:Silent Running... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Outland is terrible, they have no understanding even of zero gravity, they think it has something to do with vacuum!!! if they have vacuum in the prison cell all gravity goes away, yeahh sure.

    10. Re:Silent Running... by WeBMartians · · Score: 1

      Had the best special effects because they couldn't get a pyrotechnics license and had to use their noggins. No sparks; just BIG thermonuclear fireballs done with lights and focus.

    11. Re:Silent Running... by wikthemighty · · Score: 1

      Was looking for this in the thread, one of my absolute favorites.

      I got to enjoy this move twice in two completely different ways - first as a little kid, where I loved the robots and then as an adult and was able to see what was actually going on...

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  18. Moon by Altus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If only for kevin spacey's voice paired with emoji

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    1. Re:Moon by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      For more Kevin Spacey - K-Pax.

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    2. Re:Moon by almitydave · · Score: 1

      If only for kevin spacey's voice paired with emoji

      +1 to that. I was really surprised at how good this movie was. A new classic, IMHO.

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    3. Re:Moon by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Moon was .... boring. The plot has about 20 or 30 minutes worth of story. To sit through another 70 or so minutes of plodding reveals while going on a trip into isolationist crazy just wasn't very intriguing.

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    4. Re:Moon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A profoundly unsettling movie.

    5. Re:Moon by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Moon was a deeply disturbing movie (Firefox thinks movie is not a word? wtf). Only one other movie disturbed me quite as deeply, Star 80.

      Honestly, Moon was a bit on the boring side but after finishing it, I have to say it was a really good movie. Highly recommended.

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    6. Re:Moon by CaptSlaq · · Score: 1

      If only for kevin spacey's voice paired with emoji

      Moon was a fabulous movie with a wonderful plot twist. I appreciate the fact that the character drives the movie, not the technology.

  19. That one star trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Star Trek where Luke finds out that Groot is his father and goes out and rides a sandworm to defeat the emperor and his army of xenomorphs. I especially like the part where he finds that replicant by the monolith who claims to be David Bowman. Very moving scene.

    1. Re:That one star trek by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      You forgot to mention his bigger-in-the-inside spaceship fuelled by helium-3 piloted by the android who aspires to be human.

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    2. Re: That one star trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make that android paranoid and it's a deal!

  20. Better yet... by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Funny
    Better yet, why don't you tell us yours,/I> msmash... but can you make it as entertaining as this line from your summary??

    ...that are far from ever getting displaced by the reboots spree that the Hollywood is currently embarking.

    Did you have to run that through a translator a couple times to get the desired effect? ;)

  21. Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION - Starring Ethan Hawke (gives NEW meaning to the phrase "Go fuck yourself", lol).

    * It is truly awesome...

    APK

    P.S.=> A friend of mine brought it home & the SECOND I saw Robert Heinlein on it, I just knew it had to be great (it didn't disappoint)... apk

    1. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by TrumpShaker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I saw it a few weeks ago, and it was awesome! I searched it out as I had read it was based on Heinlein's work.

      Honestly, I think most of Heinlein's work should be made into movies.

    2. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Checkered+Daemon · · Score: 1

      Be careful what you wish for. Take a look at the dreck that has been 'based on a story by Phillip K. Dick'.

      Sure, there have been one or two that were OK, but most of it ... phhew.

    3. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. Predestination is magnificent.

    4. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      "Citizen of the Galaxy" should probably be a mini series to achieve all the perspectives needed. Why not take advantage of the people who made Iron Sky - or "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning"?

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    5. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Immerman · · Score: 1

      There's a world of difference between a book being made into a movie, and a movie being "based on" a book.

      In my experience it seems like "based on" is as often as not code for "I read the cover and then used it to level my desk"

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    6. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adapting a book into a movie means they think the book has a story that would work as a movie.

      "Based on" usually means they bought the rights to the book to avoid being sued for plagiarizing the concept.

    7. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Predestination is a mind bender. Time Lapse, Primer, Safety Not Guaranteed are also good. Project Almanac suffers from a nausea inducing performance (the shaky camera only partially detracts from the absolutely horrible "acting" performances by the leads. Maybe the cameraman was flipping the cue cards while the actors were trying to read them?

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    8. Re:Based on HEINLEIN's work: PREDESTINATION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved that Movie also. Was surprised at end

  22. Still the best by mrlinux11 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Forbidden Planet

    1. Re:Still the best by crashumbc · · Score: 0

      Good call

    2. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forbidden Planet

      No man, no. Forbidden Planet is quaint, but best science fiction film of all time ? Hell no.

    3. Re:Still the best by WRSaunders · · Score: 1

      Absolutely correct. This is the reason we won't need artificial super intelligence to destroy ourselves. Our "make the robot do it" mindset will lead to Sol III as the next Altair IV.

    4. Re:Still the best by mrlinux11 · · Score: 1

      The question was Which SCI-Fi is your favorite, so there is no wrong answer

    5. Re:Still the best by silvergeek · · Score: 1

      "Forbidden Planet" for me too. Also "Blade Runner" and maybe the original "War of the Worlds."

    6. Re:Still the best by CODiNE · · Score: 2

      SPOILER ALERT:

      I've spotted other movies with the same basic plot element... humans given god-like powers, but the subconscious ruins everything.

      Sphere is one I can remember. The others, I've forgotten...
      I think watching Legion (TV Series) had me thinking about this again. Everything could be a product of his own mind.

      I'd love to have a list of these.

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    7. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forbidden Planet is up there with Andromeda Strain, When Worlds Collide, Fantastic Voyage.....

    8. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree. It gets my vote.

    9. Re:Still the best by jader3rd · · Score: 2

      Forbidden Planet

      I popped in Forbidden Planet during a movie night once and all of the other guys kept saying "That's just like ", and I had to remind them that Forbidden Planet was done decades before those other movies with which they were familiar.

    10. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well there is if you add a sci-fantasy flic. :)

    11. Re:Still the best by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 2

      Leslie Nielsen being all serious. Theme music played on a theremin. Robbie the Robot. God, what a great movie.

    12. Re:Still the best by hillbluffer · · Score: 1

      It's got my vote.
      This is the one that set the standard for all non-cheesy scifi that came after it.

    13. Re:Still the best by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Forbidden Planet

      Agreed. Also, Invaders from Mars (1953), the original The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951), This Island Earth (1955), and Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956).

    14. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gold standard until Star Wars

    15. Re:Still the best by ferro+lad · · Score: 1

      Agreed, and you're forgetting to mention Anne Francis. What a babe! Would love to have had a chance for some harmless kissing with her! Made in '56 and nominated for an Academy Award for best visual effects, which IMHO still look pretty good (Disney, after all). Horn dog crewman, but wouldn't you be too if you were cooped up for months on a flying saucer?

    16. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah they all nicked it off Shakespeare (The Tempest)

    17. Re:Still the best by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      The question was Which SCI-Fi is your favorite, so there is no wrong answer

      Jupiter Ascending.

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    18. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watched it a couple of weeks back. Still a good movie, and for something filmed in the 1950's it looks awesome. I'm pleasantly surprised no-one has done a remake.

    19. Re:Still the best by xevioso · · Score: 1

      Wrong answer!

    20. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      first scifi movie I ever saw. Had a robot and I fell in love with him.

    21. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that "Forbidden Planet" is an adaptation of Shakespeare's "The Tempest" don't you?

    22. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The basic plot element comes from Shakespeare's play "The Tempest". So there are a lot of variations; plays, operas, poems....
      It's especially powerful as a play, because it's the last one he wrote, so giving up magic has an extra meaning.

    23. Re:Still the best by rjdriver · · Score: 1

      A great classic. Forbidden Planet scared the krap out of my as a kid. Had nightmares for weeks about that invisible monster walking up the stairs into the space ship.

    24. Re:Still the best by dbIII · · Score: 1

      and I had to remind them that Forbidden Planet was done decades before those

      Just like "The Tempest" :)
      It adds a lot onto that foundation however.

    25. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're all based off Shakespears "The Tempest".

    26. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AKA Shakespeares ' The Tempest ' still a brilliant movie

    27. Re:Still the best by WeBMartians · · Score: 1

      Amen! After all, it is a retelling of Shakespeare's The Tempest. Why mess with perfection!

    28. Re:Still the best by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I disagree. There may be no single correct answer, but there are lots of wrong answers!

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    29. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. It was "Star Trek" before there was Star Trek. Action, mystery, romance - it had it all and Robby too!

    30. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've spotted other movies with the same basic plot element...

      And Forbidden Planet wasn't the first. It shares many elements with Shakespeare's The Tempest.

    31. Re:Still the best by Megane · · Score: 1

      I am sad that they never did a parody of it, considering the kind of movies that Leslie Nielsen made later in his life. They could have called it something like "Prohibited Planet". He was so deadpan serious in the original that it would have been awesome for him to be deadpan silly in a remake.

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    32. Re:Still the best by thrich81 · · Score: 1

      I bought a copy and read "The Tempest" years ago because I heard that "Forbidden Planet" was loosely derived from it.

    33. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original "Forbidden Planet" is still a great movie and done remarkably well considering the effects they had to work with at the time. Great characters, great plot.
      I only HOPE that when a remake is made, they don't put some cartoon robot in it or change the storyline like they did in another classic, "The Day the Earth Stood Still".
      I'd prefer that they just ENHANCE the original movie and not restrict it to 90 minutes. If you are going to redo a classic movie, you really want to stay with what made it great to start with!
      ~YukiBear~

    34. Re:Still the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Theme music was not theremin. The Barron's did the soundtrack using dedicated circuitry.

    35. Re:Still the best by chiefscienceofficer · · Score: 1

      Gets my vote as well

  23. Gattaca by Jogar+the+Barbarian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw it four times in the movie theater and it was the first DVD I ever bought.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt01...

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    1. Re:Gattaca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With Gattaca, the question is when, not if.

    2. Re:Gattaca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first (and probably final) thought for favorite SF movie as well. I bought it on VHS, then bought it digitally on iTunes, and was glad that over time they made captions available on it (at least I don't think they were there out of the gate).

    3. Re:Gattaca by CaptSlaq · · Score: 1

      I saw it four times in the movie theater and it was the first DVD I ever bought. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt01...

      Like Moon, Gattaca lets the story be about the characters and not the science and is better for it.

  24. 2001 by k6mfw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because Kubrick did meticulous research from flat screen displays and glass cockpits. Also had all actors be boring just like the characters they portrayed, i.e. people that do space are not expressive like most actors (compare 2001 to 2010). Of course Kubrick missed a few things, like Pan Am no longer exist, we ignored the Moon after 1972. But then I'm old enough to remember seeing this movie in 1968 shown at Century theatres on Winchester Blvd, a time when it seemed only obvious because soon we will have men walked the surface of the Moon. And many people were around to remember reading the news of first flight of Wright Bros and Lindbergh's transatlantic flight. By the time they were retirement age, they can ride an airplane that comfortably flies across continents or oceans. Hey when I'll be their age, I can do the same with space travel. But no, still waiting to see who will walk the surface of the Moon again, still waiting for my flying car (oh wait there's roadable airplanes I cannot afford). However, we got computers to enable me to rant on the forums (can't do that with a HAL9000).

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  25. Arrival and other Heady Films by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arrival - if you haven't seen it, go watch it. I also particularly enjoy low budget sci-fi films that have great dialog, demand your attention, and have mind-blowing moments:
    -Primer
    -Man From Earth
    -Love

    Other Good Films:
    -Serentiy
    -Gattaca
    -Europa Report

    And of cheesy schlock is good too:
    -Iron Sky
    -Independence Day Resurgence

  26. favorite scifi movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bladerunner. Alien. Terminator. In recent years my mind is a blank but that one with the blond chick who was an AI was good.

    1. Re:favorite scifi movies by slew · · Score: 1

      Bladerunner. Alien. Terminator. In recent years my mind is a blank but that one with the blond chick who was an AI was good.

      Hmm, don't know which you were referring to, but "Ex Machina" was okay, but she wasn't blond. On the other hand "Her" was a chick-flick that wasn't so good and in addition to not appearing in the movie, she isn't a natural blond. I haven't seen "Ghost in the shell" yet, so perhaps that one is a more promising "blond chick" who was an AI movie...

    2. Re:favorite scifi movies by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen "Ghost in the shell" yet

      It has very good moments but Hollywood decided to use it to shove the message of the week in your face in a not very subtle way so it's not entirely self-consistent.
      Like the Trek reboot it both relies on fans knowing far too much of the source material for the film to work properly alone and annoys those fans by changing major parts of the setting itself. It's full of "easter eggs" taken from the many movies and two TV series that pop up just to impress the fans but have nothing to do with the plot, so don't be annoyed that some things seem to have no reason to be in the movie. It's not really a spoiler, but one of the odd things they've changed with the setting is the main character gets her rank of Major changed to a name, and she gets to be the newbie in a group yet ordering them around as if she is a Major with plenty of experience. So sometimes she is and sometimes she isn't. It's stuck halfway between one story and another.
      It's still worth watching IMHO despite it's flaws but I don't think it's going to make anyone's "best" list.


      This 2015 movie IMHO does everything in a better way:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell:_The_New_Movie
      While that is set after other films it makes sense alone and it's flashbacks go back to before the other films anyway.

  27. nyffifssuv by speranta · · Score: 1

    BUTTERFLY EFFECT

    1. Re:nyffifssuv by turp182 · · Score: 2

      The alternate ending version.

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      How do you know that it was alternate? Maybe that was the primary ending?

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  28. Dune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He who controls the spice controls the universe!

    1. Re:Dune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dune is the best

    2. Re:Dune by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      He who controls the spice controls the universe!

      It is possible to like both the De Laurentiis version (excellent production values but too much story crammed into the length of one feature, cramming the story into incomprehensibility) and the Czech miniseries (crappy production values but tells the whole story).

    3. Re:Dune by martinX · · Score: 1

      A great movie.

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    4. Re:Dune by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      He who controls the spice controls the universe!

      You seem to have accidentally cross-posted from a "worst sci-fi movie by a great director" thread.

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    5. Re:Dune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> He who controls the spice controls the universe!
      > You seem to have accidentally cross-posted from a "worst sci-fi movie by a great director" thread.

      I don't think Lynch is a great director. He's pretentious and something of a snake-oil salesman. He takes a great, intriguing premise and doesn't know how to finish a story, so he weirds it up for no good reason.

    6. Re:Dune by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Movie got panned due to the hype... but it really isn't a bad movie. With so much of the overdone stuff being released now a days you wish there were still movies like that.

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  29. Forbidden Planet by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    first VHS movie i bought

    1. Re:Forbidden Planet by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Funny. The first VHS movie I bought was SPACEBALLS. I'm not saying it's my FAVORITE... Just first.

  30. The Matrix Reloaded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seriously liked the The Matrix Reloaded (2003) sequel better than the original The Matrix (1999).

    I picked up a bunch of DVDs for 50 cents a pop when a local video store went out of business some years ago, so I picked up the first two Matrices. I could have also picked up The Matrix Revolutions simply to have a entire trilogy in my collection, but even 50 cents seemed too high a price for that movie....

  31. Enemy Mine by admin7087 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because of the story it is based on, which I had read before. Westworld (1973) was also pretty good. Unfortunately, there are not so many good Science Fiction movies, although there are quite a few. I don't remember any good recent ones, even though I watch all of them. Metropolis with live classical piano accompaniment was also very good. They Live is also fantastic, and I also liked Solaris (1972). Many more, of course, but I'll stop there.

    1. Re:Enemy Mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just realized that my post maybe sounded somewhat undecided or contradictory, so before someone asks: What I meant was that there are a few dozens good Sci Fi movies. Quite a few but not many.

    2. Re:Enemy Mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite a few but not many.

      Alrightie now that cleared it up for me!

      CAP === 'unarmed'

    3. Re:Enemy Mine by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      A good story rarely needs special effects. And it's better with a few good ones than many sloppy.

      And I agree - Enemy Mine is a good story, you may like K-Pax too.

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    4. Re:Enemy Mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WestWorld aged horribly...overall story is kinda bad as well.

    5. Re:Enemy Mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Michael Crichton was a hack and a one-trick pony, forever repeating his science-gone-haywire schtick in various scenarios..

    6. Re:Enemy Mine by GNious · · Score: 1

      This was prolly the first one that got me to sit up and take notice, excellent movie!

    7. Re:Enemy Mine by Major+Blud · · Score: 1

      Westworld (1973) was also pretty good.

      I really enjoyed the recent TV treatment of Westworld on HBO. I thought the science was pretty good; I had never heard of the Bicameral Mind until it was mentioned early in the season. I spent a few hours reading up on it afterwards and was intrigued by the premise.

      The TV treatment of The Expanse is well done also. Sure the CGI and special affects aren't big budget, but they don't have to be to convey the story.

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  32. Spaceballs by Vegan+Cyclist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not a 'great' movie, but for sure one of my favourites. =)

    1. Re:Spaceballs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, but only if I can watch it overdubbed in French, with English subtitles.

      And yes, I actually did that. :D

    2. Re:Spaceballs by martinX · · Score: 1

      I rewatched this one recently and I felt it hadn't aged well.

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    3. Re:Spaceballs by lurker412 · · Score: 1

      Spaceballs was the only good reason to have seen Star Wars.

    4. Re:Spaceballs by sabbede · · Score: 2

      What the hell do you mean by, "Not a 'great' movie"?? Just so you know, the only acceptable response is, "Because it's so much greater than great."

    5. Re:Spaceballs by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

      I had the same experience. This Brooks piece was more appealing for us adolescents and teens in the 80s. However, other Brooks pieces got better with age, especially Blazing Saddles (I recall not understanding and being largely bored with the Governor scenes - now they are my favorite: "Work-work-work...")

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    6. Re:Spaceballs by Vegan+Cyclist · · Score: 1

      Touche! =)

    7. Re:Spaceballs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still waiting for the sequel, "Spaceballs 2: The search for more money". In the meantime, will have to subsist on all the great moichendizing.

  33. To avoid normal responses: Nightwatch and Daywatch by kfh227 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Night Watch (Russian: , Nochnoy dozor) is a 2004 Russian urban fantasy supernatural thriller film written and directed by Timur Bekmambetov. It is loosely based on the novel The Night Watch by Sergei Lukyanenko, and is the first part of a duology, followed by Day Watch. You have to watch both movies to get the complete narrative and it is friggin awesome! This is one of the best sci-fi/fantasy movies I have ever seen!

  34. Primer - 6000$ one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Primer
    As far as I know, it's the only one that involves time-travelling without inconsistencies, although I may have missed several.

    1. Re:Primer - 6000$ one by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      There was a fairly faithful adaptation of Heinlein's "All You Zombies", which is entirely consistent, though not entirely plausible.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt23...

      "Timecrimes" was reasonably consistent as well.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt04...

      (IMHO neither movie was as good as "Primer".)

    2. Re:Primer - 6000$ one by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Came here just to say this. After seeing it mentioned in the xkcd: Movie Narrative Charts several years ago, I thought it seemed out of place sitting next to the rest of those films, so I wanted to see what had warranted its inclusion.

      When it finally showed up on Netflix a few years later, it blew me away.

      It's the only movie that I have ever finished and then immediately rewatched. It's the only one that I even wanted to immediately rewatch, since normally I either want a break or want to let things percolate. But with Primer? Not so much. Every time I felt like I had a grasp on it, something would happen that would show me otherwise, but never in a frustrating way. After multiple viewings it holds up beautifully, with each viewing revealing just a bit more about how the world of the movie works and how the characters interact with each other. And with it being so short, it never overstays its welcome.

      Well worth watching. And I believe it was even re-added to Netflix just a few months ago...

    3. Re:Primer - 6000$ one by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

      I felt the point of Primer was that man cannot control the future, which is why I didn't watch it again - I was sated with that.

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    4. Re:Primer - 6000$ one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Primer
      As far as I know, it's the only one that involves time-travelling without inconsistencies, although I may have missed several.

      Obligatory xkcd: https://www.xkcd.com/657/

    5. Re:Primer - 6000$ one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate time travel Sci fi. It is a trope and it is ALWAYS inconsistent. It has to be. Cus well time travel.

  35. This Island Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    or 2001 or Bladerunner or The Martian.

  36. Can't think of one I'd call "good", so - by sheramil · · Score: 1

    - I'll watch the five extant episodes of "Dynamo", by karmapirates, and pretend it's a short film. And hope the next episode is out soon.

  37. YES! My FORMER #1... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    See subject: That IS great but another film starring the same actor took it's place (PREDESTINATION) https://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10498111&cid=54248865/ !

    * GATTACA is awesome & NOT so "far out" nowadays that it's an impossibility in the NEAR future either...

    APK

    P.S.=> IF you liked GATTACA? I strongly STRONGLY recommend you check out PREDESTINATION... apk

    1. Re:YES! My FORMER #1... apk by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      A buddy of mine was telling me about Predestination, and I said, "hey, you might like this short story called 'All You Zombies.'" Turns out, the film was based on it. LOL. Who would have guessed back then that the "far out" part of Gattaca was going to be the space travel, not the DNA stuff. :(

  38. 2010 by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not a popular movie, but it's my favorite. It accomplishes the almost impossible task of thoroughly explaining 2001, for a start.

    Other things I like about it? HAL 9000 redeems himself. We find out what his problem was and who was responsible. Then HAL sacrifices himself to save lives.

    Another nice bit - the science in this movie is just about 100%. The zero gravity, the air brake scene, the actual 3d environment of space where the Discovery is simply tumbling. Space ships aren't moving around like flat horizontal pieces on a chess board. The only flaw I can find is when Jupiter ignites there is a sound, which of course there wouldn't be. But that's about it.

    It's a great story and it's told very well.

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    1. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a popular movie, but it's my favorite. It accomplishes the almost impossible task of thoroughly explaining 2001, for a start.

      Clearly "The Sentinel" was the starting point for 2001 and while Clarke was brought in to work on the screenplay and novelization, the film is notably different. Clarke himself admitted this - also note what Kubrick did to Stephen King's "The Shining". 2010 is the sequel to Clarke's 2001 novelization and not the Stanley Kubrick movie of the same name.

    2. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I liked it, too, but what's with the giant space-baby at the end???

    3. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2001
      You misconstrue HAL's imperative to complete the mission, get to Jupiter space when it sacrifices it's 'life', i.e. you anthropomorphize it into being a lifeform with independent desires. So does it's developer, although the company that paid for the machine would never pay for that function. Who want's a machine with a soul? We got plenty of organic machines with those already complicated the situations about us.

      Last hiding the mission parameter in the computer was just stupid. You couldn't upload updated parameters to the original mission statement when the ship arrived? Why create a mystery when not needed other than to highlight machine intelligence 'bad' vs organic intelligence 'good'. The hidden objective provided nothing to the rational execution of the mission.

      2010
      No designer would make an artificial intelligence device with that feature. Why would you do that? Yes protect your parts so long as it doesn't violate your programed task. It first mission was complete. It was in Jupiter space. It's second mission, to stay and observe was before it. It did it's programming. If it did else you'd need to have the buggy software examined. Lots of drama over nothing.

    4. Re:2010 by nealric · · Score: 1

      It might explain some plot elements, but 2010 does't bother to begin addressing what 2001 is actually about.

    5. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then there's that bit where they board the Discovery by walking up the underside of the spinning hull. That was just dumb!

    6. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also don't forget Keir Dullea looked EXATLY the same in 2010 as he did in 2001. LIterally like he had never ages

    7. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How was that dumb? They had to go on the underside because that's where the airlock on the command module was located.

      They were being pulled outward by inertia, so the "gravity" was toward the nose. I thought that whole sequence was beautifully shot.

    8. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that's because 2010 is plot- and character-driven where 2001 is theme-driven.

    9. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw 2001 after reading and loving the book. I realized while watching that the movie would not make much sense without the extra context in the book.

      I have the book for 2010 on my shelf. Thank you for reminding me to read it; will probably watch the movie after.

    10. Re:2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a popular movie, but it's my favorite. It accomplishes the almost impossible task of thoroughly explaining 2001, for a start.>

      Which is why I would give it -100 stars. Not only is it a crappy movie, it retroactively destroyed a really good movie.

      It removed all of the ambiguity and mystery that made 2001 such a good movie.

    11. Re:2010 by jzarling · · Score: 1

      The production design alone makes this a top 5 for me. I always attributed the vibration sound to being in the ship - it rattles everything not velcro'd down.

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  39. The red pill by cahuenga · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Loved the fist Matrix movie. Philosophy, virtual reality, crazy new visual effects. I remember walking out of that movie and there was silence from the audience. Many were still processing the meaning and some were discovering brand-new ideas for the first time.

    1. Re:The red pill by ichthus · · Score: 1

      I agree completely, and I'm surprised I had to scroll so far down this page to find The Matrix. Such a great concept, so well-executed.

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    2. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Loved the fist Matrix movie.

      What do you mean, the "first" Matrix movie?

    3. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well executed (in the first movie), interesting concept, but a complete fail due to the theory that humans make good batteries.

    4. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was nerdly cool until they reveal the curveball (early on)... then it became less nerdly cool and more visually. So, for me, it became less mentally stimulating and more visually. If they had made more than one movie about this, it could have went into more detail about the construct. But, alas, they didn't.

    5. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah!

      Too bad they never made a sequel :-/

    6. Re:The red pill by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

      What do you mean, the "first" Matrix movie?

      Good point, there was only one Matrix movie. There were however two crappy movies with Matrix in the title which came after but they were completely unrelated in originally and quality and shouldn't be included when speaking of "The Matrix".

    7. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a shame they never made a sequel.

    8. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loved the fist Matrix movie. Philosophy, virtual reality, crazy new visual effects. I remember walking out of that movie and there was silence from the audience. Many were still processing the meaning and some were discovering brand-new ideas for the first time.

      This series of videos by Flick Floggers does an excellent job of articulating why The Matrix was so good, and why the sequels failed :

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayvxSUHAOgc

      Deeper Analysis - The Matrix (1/2)
      TheFlickFloggers
      Published on Jun 9, 2013

      In order to understand why the Matrix sequels disappoint, we deeply analyze what made the first Matrix film such a massive success with audiences and critics alike. This segment focuses on the making of the film and how its structure/characters/themes resonate.

    9. Re:The red pill by networkBoy · · Score: 2
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    10. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you seen "Schindlers Liste"? THAT was when the audience left the cinema in silence. In perfect silence. Do not talk of silence ever again when talking about movies.

    11. Re:The red pill by vossman77 · · Score: 1

      Good movie, but I hate the Trinity kisses Neo for him to realize he is the One scene. No matter how you interpret it, it is just so lame at a crucial turning point in the movie. Now, whenever I re-watch the movie, I get so annoyed with this scene.

      Trinity : Neo..I'm not afraid anymore! The Oracle told me I would fall in love, and that man, the man that I loved, would be The One. So, you see, you can't be dead...you can't be... because I love you....you hear me? I love you...

      She leans over and kisses him

      As she says this, the blow echoes deep in Neo's mind. In the Matrix, his eyes snap open. Trinity screams as his life monitors jump back to life. Tank and Morpheus stare, in disbelief.

      Trinity : Now get up!!

      Neo sits up, trying to focus. He stands up, and the Agents turn around, staring at him, also in disbelief. Agent Smith grimaces and aims his rifle at Neo. He fires.

      Neo : ...No...!

      As Agent Smith fires, Neo just puts his hand out. The bullets slow down and stop in front of him. Neo looks at them, and picks one up. He looks at it, and then drops it to the floor. He looks at the rest, and moves his head down. They all fall to the ground. The Agents stare, and all take a step back.

      Tank : How!?!

      Morpheus : He is... The One...

    12. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I'll agree. I was working on call seven days a week so never took time until it came out on DVD.

      The third movie is the farce. They could have wrapped the whole thing up as a colony ship. The Matrix was to keep people without viable suspended animation alive busy and reproducing in transit. The fact that the machines and human had a type of fusion (the Nebuchadnezzar was powered by a fusion reactor) implies they didn't need humans as batteries. There must have been another purpose to keep so many humans about.

      The group living outside are in another matrix. They see through the first Matrix but their second Matrix gives them purpose too. To struggle against the first matrix. We'd call them terrorist today. Fanaticism is a real human trait after all. The Matrix developers would be smart to accommodate it. Their abominable living standard are what freedom fighters expect after all.

      Finally Neo. The target world would by it's nature not be the wonderful urban setting or the underground warrens of the two matrices. Hopefully machines sent ahead would be working on making the world liveable. A ship in space would have limited repair abilities so at some point the need to offload the cargo of humans would outweigh the need to keep them safe until the new world was perfect.

      The ship, the 'Oracle' needs one human to remember it's all a fantasy and let him wake in reality finally so he can evaluate the situation. His life in both matrices give him the experience to know if the target world is ready enough for the colonists vs the functional status of the colony ship. That would have been a great scene. Perhaps he is a clone of himself, the 'captain', designated driver, whatever. His reward for playing along is the love of Trinity. Self sacrifice for the greater good is a great them in a movie or reality. It goes all the way back to Jesus and the soldier that ran to Athens from Marathon after all.

      That is where I would have started. A vast ship in space being built perhaps in the L5, people arguing that the suspended animation tech just won't work, flight, leaving Sol System, a star, closer, a planet, machines descending, terraforming in progress and colonists numbers reaching a desirable peak. One of those jumbled time stream sort of introduction and movie. The battle between Neo and the agents is to get him to wake from both dream worlds, seeing them both as matrices and accept reality. Agent Smith then become his guide, an android to help guide him in reality, perhaps via their teaching tool. A robot doing it's job properly. Hell it would have been nice to see Agent Smith standing over a cloning tank offering Neo a hand up, the battle between them over.

    13. Re:The red pill by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Sure, but if you want a cinema to exited by people in tears nothing quite touches Requiem for a Dream.

      Back on topic, I don't have a favourite sci-fi film. I love many of them. Blade Runner and Aliens are the two best films among them though, and anybody that disagrees must refrain from quoting either of them.

    14. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some many mentions of Matrix, but nobody even thought of Ghost in the shell (1995) and Akira (1988) ?

    15. Re:The red pill by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Using humans as batteries is not science, just pure fiction, thus not science fiction. The Matrix used technobabble to sell magical powers and spectacular visuals on the big screen. Great movie, but such a flawed premise it lands squarely in the fantasy genre, at least in my book.

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    16. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad they never made any sequels..

    17. Re:The red pill by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      some were discovering brand-new ideas for the first time.

      Most wondering if there's a computer they can put in their brain so they know kung fu.

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    18. Re:The red pill by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      Loved the fist Matrix movie.

      What do you mean, the "first" Matrix movie?

      Haven't you heard? They are going to reboot it.

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    19. Re:The red pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well executed (in the first movie)

      It's too bad they never made any sequels.

  40. Empire Strikes Back by javacowboy · · Score: 1

    A New Hope was great but it suffered from some plot holes, plot pacing issues, some special effects rushes, and just a general lack of polish. Empire was a professional effort with proper production, budget, director, an better emphasis on acting and character development, better scripting, Yoda, and, last but not least: Lando.

    It was dark and deep and delved into the truth nature of the Force. It brought out emotions that the first movie could not. It has more creative planets and better dialogue.

    I don't understand how A New Hope could be considered better other than the fact that it introduced the Star Wars universe.

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    1. Re:Empire Strikes Back by mrsquid0 · · Score: 1

      > I don't understand how A New Hope could be considered better other than the fact that it introduced the Star Wars universe.

      I tend to agree, but in defense of the original Star Wars, it was a self-contained story that worked well whereas The Empire Strikes Back was an experiment in serial movie-making that did not work out well. In some ways Empire was ahead of its time and anticipated the various cinematic universes of today. In some ways it paved the road for these universes. However, despite being a well-made professional movie with dialogue that (for the most part) did not make one cringe, it suffered from the weakness of needing Return of the Jedi to complete the experience because the two movies were essentially one story with three-year gap in the telling.

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    2. Re:Empire Strikes Back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other day I was contemplating why I have always thought the Empire Strikes Back is the best. Besides the generally better production quality, I realized it was the story, and especially the ending. Not a happy one. Lots of darkness in it.

    3. Re:Empire Strikes Back by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      "Star Wars" as it was called was a budget movie at the time. Considering that it's number 3 of highest grossing movies compensating for inflation it did pretty well.

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    4. Re:Empire Strikes Back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > "Star Wars" as it was called was a budget movie at the time.

      Was it? Its budget was around $12 million at the time, which IIRC was not particularly small. Lucas made American Graffiti for under a million dollars.

      What did your typical movie cost back in 1977?

    5. Re:Empire Strikes Back by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and Return of the Jedi wasn't nearly as good as The Empire Strikes Back, so you've got a very good movie that needs to have a much worse movie attached to make sense.

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  41. Colossus: The Forbin Project by imatter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Colossus: The Forbin Project

    So many others,
    A Boy and His Dog
    Quintet
    Zazrdoz

    Oh yeah and I forgot, The Ice Pirates, fucking Robert Urich.

    1. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      oh yes that movie when powerful computers were big and caused people to question what if computers can think for themselves. Zardoz, I never understood that movie.

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    2. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, Colossus: The Forbin Project

      I came here to post that myself. I'm glad someone else appreciates it too.

      Watch it and try to overlook the 1960s vintage computer-tech... and it's really excellent SF.

    3. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      Loved Ice Pirates!

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    4. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by martinX · · Score: 1

      Zardoz was way ahead of its time. Peer through the bad pacing and old special effects and you'll see a good movie.

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    5. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Colossus is my favourite too.
      They got exactly what they wanted and seemed to need, but still internally wanted the buck to stop at the humans.
      Why did it sound so bad when the same order like "Get me Forbin" came from the machine compared to from the president.

    6. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love Slashdot threads like this, so many movies to add to my list to watch. Thanks for posting A Boy and His Dog, I had totally forgotten about this movie.

    7. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goddam that is a good list.

    8. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by Dripdry · · Score: 1

      Sean Connery in a red diaper! That's all you need to understand.
      The gun is good, the penis is evil.

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    9. Re:Colossus: The Forbin Project by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Zardoz, I never understood that movie.

      Far future. A society has solved death. People can live forever and get remade if they come to a violent end. They can't even commit suicide. This has a variety of social effects and the movie is really just an excuse to show them off. There's ALSO the uncivilized primitive people. Kinda like in the Time Machine, where you have the Eloi and the Murlochs? These are the have-nots that are treated like animals.

      Anyway, someone in the high society gets cynical or something and wants to tear it all down. He/she/they/Iforget make one of the barbarians smarter than the average cookie with the intent that he'll come and tear down the high society. Oh, and they were supplying his group with weapons and training/compelling them to go exterminate the other riff-raff. So yeah, this guy comes into high-society, who react in different ways. A lot like Brave New World in that aspect. He eventually gets his bros inside, and they kill everyone because that's what they're trained to do. ...at least that's what I remembered. But holy shit, WTF is going on!? The 70's were a special time. Alright. Never mind. I never understood that movie.

  42. Dark City by rey2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe considered sci-fi/fantasy but hands down my favorite movie ever. I prefer the director's cut since it excludes some of the hand-holding voice-overs. The story is great, it was shot "film noir" style, has great sound track and an excellent cast. I think "Richard O'Brien" played a perfectly creepy stranger. I like how they cast Jennifer Connelly as the caring wife of her homely husband (Rufus Sewell). William Hurt played a great contemplative Det. Bumstead. I could go on.

    1. Re:Dark City by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      I really hated the ending, it felt like they ran out of ideas and just decided to go for a huge battle.

    2. Re:Dark City by colin_faber · · Score: 1

      agreed, cool all the way around and fantastically original story.

    3. Re:Dark City by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      I really liked this movie a lot with such great visuals and a very cool idea for the plot. All the characters were superb as you mention. It was groundbreaking I believe in that it set the stage for other cool movie visuals like the recent Dr. Strange and Inception.

    4. Re:Dark City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't hate the ending per se, but I do think John Murdoch made the wrong decision. In his place I'd have done what the strangers wanted and joined with them. By doing what he did, John doomed their species.

    5. Re:Dark City by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Dark City was awesome. The Matrix before The Matrix came out. Thought provoking, and I still enjoy watching this.

    6. Re:Dark City by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      What logical alternative was there? Take control, pilot back to earth? I actually like the idea of taking out the main bad guy (a battle was inevitable given the cat and mouse nature of the movie) and then simply taking control and conceding this is where life will go on.

    7. Re:Dark City by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      A bad end, organizing a resistance movement, a stalemate. These are three options of the top of my head.

    8. Re:Dark City by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The first would be a let down.
      The second would be setting up for a sequel that shouldn't happen.
      The third would be a let down.

      Hollywood doesn't like bad endings in general, and aside from a few critically acclaimed films, most that do end up with bad endings get panned as a result.

  43. The Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the others I can think of, all have some silliness that break my suspension of disbelief. Inexplicable FTL travel. Sound in a vacuum. Speed of sound equal to speed of light. Magic - Yes, I know the Asimov quote: things should be unexplained, not inexplicable. The grossly improbable, like characters having highly improbable encounters, not once but twice.

  44. Too many... by wbr1 · · Score: 1

    ST II Wrath of Kahn
    Matrix
    Bladerunner
    District 9
    Event Horizon
    Sphere
    Fifth Element
    Lucy was pretty good too. Looking forward to see how Valerian is... looks promising.

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    1. Re:Too many... by slinches · · Score: 2

      Sphere!? You have to be joking. That was a terrible movie. The book was great, but so much of what made it great was internal dialog and psychology that just didn't translate to film.

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    2. Re:Too many... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bladerunner
      Cowboy Bebop - anime
      Dune
      Empire Strikes Back
      Escape from New York (very cheesy)
      Gattaca
      Ghost in a Shell - anime
      Metropolis
      Minority Report
      Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise - anime
      Serenity
      Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan
      Zardoz

    3. Re:Too many... by wbr1 · · Score: 1
      Not joking. I enjoyed it. I never read the novel. Personally, what I did read of Crichton I did not enjoy. The pacing alwyas felt off, but many of his books seemed to translate well into movies for me.

      With other titles I swing wildly the other way... Dune is good, but nothing near as good as the novel. LoTR, please don't get me started!

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    4. Re:Too many... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dune is good, but nothing near as good as the novel. LoTR, please don't get me started!

      Came here for this.

      Dune was a fine example of how to make sweeping changes for the sake of film while still remaining mostly okay. Weirding modules? Weird, but Lansraad politics would not have fit into a movie. Muad'dib bringing peace and joy instead of a jihad? Ain't nobody at the time wanted to walk out of a theatre to the sobering effect of a grim ending.

      Lord of the Rings... I'll get started. Fellowship was as perfect a translation to film as Hollywood is capable of. It's the Empire Strikes Back of that trilogy. Unfortunately, Peter Jackson and his pet illiterate Phillipa went full Ewok with The Two Towers and Return of the Action Figures.

    5. Re:Too many... by slinches · · Score: 1

      Reading the book probably made the movie seem worse by comparison, but the novel is great and some of that probably did come through in the film. I understand the criticism of Crichton. He does have a certain style, but I think it worked pretty well with the content and a novel is a much better medium for this kind of psychological thriller where so much of the action takes place in the characters heads.

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  45. Re:To avoid normal responses: Nightwatch and Daywa by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

    Yeah, Night Watch really was something special. Nothing had that look when it came out... love that movie!

  46. Re:To avoid normal responses: Nightwatch and Daywa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's Fantasy and not Sci-Fi.
    And the books are way better, they have more time for the buildup, doesn't meshmatch several characters and Olga IS way more interesting/sexier/independent than the movie version where she's just 'a gurrl with powers'.

  47. The Queen of Outer Space by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    I posted 2001 as that was epic film, however TQOOS would be my favorite because if I see it shown on TV I will stop and watch it, I love watching Zsa Zsa Gabor in her beautiful dresses, hair, makeup, and her figure (also love her accent). I probably would not stop and watch 2001 if on a TV channel but then difficult to see on a TV set as need the big full screen. This campy space flick is a terrible plot but lots been written about the movie from using a Von Braun space station design to re-using sets from previous movies, and all the girls wearing sexy outfits of short skirts like those of Star Trek TOS.

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    1. Re:The Queen of Outer Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think we have the same "issues". ;)

    2. Re:The Queen of Outer Space by sconeu · · Score: 2

      If you're going with TQOOS, why is there no complementary love for Plan 9 From Outer Space?

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    3. Re:The Queen of Outer Space by Megane · · Score: 1

      The worst part about watching 2001 on TV was the length of the "space tunnel" scene. Back in the '80s or so, 2001 got played every now and then, and there were at least two commercial breaks during the space tunnel scene. That made it rather hard to follow the ending.

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  48. Re:To avoid normal responses: Nightwatch and Daywa by admin7087 · · Score: 2

    Hard To Be A God (2013) is also good.

  49. The Fifth Element (with Bruce Willis) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unbeatable by a long shot for sci-fi, comedy, drama. Brilliant movie

  50. Gattaca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch it -- you'll be amazed it is 20 years old.

    The film deals with perhaps the most important question facing our society over the next 100 years, and it does so in a nuanced, elegant way. No hamfisted "lets have the actors discuss the themes of the movie with jilted prose because we think our viewers are too dumb to get it" -- I'm looking at you, christopher nolan.

  51. So far, Interstellar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the first Sci-Fi movie that had actual science in it.

    It wasn't the monster/alien eats everyone.

    It wasn't some cutsy evil government hunts good alien.

    It wasn't a Western or Samuri movie in space.

    It was Sci-Fi as it should be.

    #2 - Arrival - the one from last year; not the shitty Charlie Sheen one.

    I see 2001 - but that was soo 1960s with the LSD trip at the end. It needs to be remade to more like the book.

    1. Re:So far, Interstellar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I thought Interstellar was mostly fantasy except for they tried to somewhat accurately present a black hole. It tried to be 2001 but its reach greatly exceeded its grasp.

      The first movie I saw that I thought presented science decently was The Andromeda Strain, although the premise was pretty far-fetched.

      2010 did a great job of presenting the science and physics realistically within the limits of possible human technology and dramatic embellishment. The aliens are basically gods, but if you concede that they can do what they do, it holds up pretty well.

  52. John Carpenter's The Thing by emho24 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find that there are few movies that I can watch more than once, but I've seen The Thing many times and will watch again. The paranoia and fear among the characters is palpable, and there is no lame CGI.

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    1. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by gordguide · · Score: 1

      I find that there are few movies that I can watch more than once, but I've seen The Thing many times and will watch again.
      The paranoia and fear among the characters is palpable, and there is no lame CGI.

      Carpenter's version is good, but it's a remake of a film with multiple remakes. The original "The Thing" was released in 1951.

    2. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No sh*t, but Carpenter's is much better.

    3. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      I love his debut movie Dark Star but will be the first to admit that it's not for everyone.

    4. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      I've never seen any of the film adaptions, but I read the novella when I was a teenager and it's the only book that's ever given me nightmares.

    5. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed 100%. the remake was good, but the 1982 version used practical effects, which imho are far superior to any cgi to date. practical effects artists are underappreciated today, and instead great movies are ruined with cgi. this is why i am a fan of small budget movies, where the $ is spent on stuff that counts instead of "ooh shiny" cgi.

    6. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by TechnoCore · · Score: 1

      Yes!
      Carpenters The thing is so good. One of my definitive favourite movies.The characters, their roles, the special effects and the fact that there is no shit science makes it all perfect.
      The 1951 version is, well ok, but nothing in comparison.

    7. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod up! Cheesy in some parts but still a good blend of SciFi / Horror / Cowboy geri genres

    8. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I think most people realize that, but Carpenter's "The Thing" is clearly the best of the bunch.

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    9. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      But Dark Star is one of the funniest movies ever. When I saw it, I thought it was a persiflage like Spaceballs.

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    10. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Generator's gone."
      "Can you fix it?"
      "No, it's g-g-gone."

      OK, not the actual dialog, but that's the way I remember it.

    11. Re:John Carpenter's The Thing by dargaud · · Score: 1

      The Thing is the obligatory viewing during midwinter celebrations in Antarctica, when you are 5 months away from the closest possible rescue, and I can tell you that I've seen 300 pound grown men shake and cry halfway through the movie. Awesome.

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  53. Re:To avoid normal responses: Nightwatch and Daywa by kfh227 · · Score: 2

    Did you see Daywatch? If not, you need to watch both back to back. The conclusion is friggin awesome! One of my friends that is a movie buff didn't understand the conclusion of Nightwatch till I explained it to him. It is one of the best ending to a movie ever and ties the two movies together like no other movie I have ever seen. You need to do this!

  54. Quiet Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Zac Hobson, July 5th. One: there has been a malfunction in Project Flashlight with devastating results. Two: it seems I am the only person left on Earth."

  55. Pacific Rim/2001: A Space Odyssey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Being visually appealing means nothing without a good story (see SW ep 1/2/3). But, if I had to pick, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Pacific Rim come to mind.

  56. Star Virgin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An all time classic

  57. Children of Men and Dune by Yergle143 · · Score: 1

    ...and it is not a golden age. It is an age of moves made on a computer with a cheap reliance on phony computer special effects. Modern movies look totally phake.

    1. Re:Children of Men and Dune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded on "Children of Men!" That film made me weep for humanity. It's almost as depressing as "The Road," but deeply more affecting.

      If you haven't seen "The Handmaid's Tale," I would recommend that as well, although some would place it in the broader category of "speculative fiction" rather than SF.

    2. Re:Children of Men and Dune by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      I was so hyped for Children of Men, but so disappointed.

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  58. Blade Runner - any cut by Michael64b · · Score: 1
  59. Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Many say it's the golden age of science fiction cinema."
    Who? I know the 80s aesthetic is making a comeback, but this is not Star Wars/Alien/Blade Runner kinda era, know what I mean?

  60. Lesser praised sci-fi .... by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    As you as you start talking about "all times favorites", I think the well known movies like Star Wars come to mind for most of us. I agree with another poster that the first Matrix movie was also top-notch. That one bothers me though, only because the sequels derailed some of the things I liked best about the original. Basically, they took the story to different places I didn't think benefited it and I would have been happier if parts 2 and 3 were never made at all.

    One of the low budget sci-fi flicks I really enjoyed, though, was "The Cube". In fact, the limited resources and "unknowns" used as actors and actresses add to the enjoyment because IMO, the whole cast did an amazing job and it's intriguing how so much suspense could be created with a backdrop that's typically just empty white rooms.

    1. Re:Lesser praised sci-fi .... by grumpy_old_grandpa · · Score: 1

      I agree that "The Cube" should be high on the list. However, I'm just not sure if it's on the sci-fi list. I feel it's more philosophical and political, drawing on Kafka and Borges. E.g. "The trial" and "The Library of Babel". It is more about the human condition than it is about science and technology.

      My favorite themes from the movie includes: 1) The emergent construction of the torture charmers through bureaucracy without oversight - one of the characters had drawn the blueprints for the outer shell of the cube, without knowing what it really was. 2) The absolute corruption of authority, portrayed by the policeman who ends up killing and trying to kill several of the others.

  61. The Day the Earth Stood Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it.

    1. Re:The Day the Earth Stood Still by k6mfw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      this was the movie that set the Flying Saucer as the premier interstellar spaceship design. There were some good special effects, however, I think those effects pretty much blew the budget. They then had to rely on good plot, story, engaging character, script, acting skills, dialog to make this an epic film.

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    2. Re:The Day the Earth Stood Still by matthias.paschke1 · · Score: 1

      Please only the original from 1951. The remake with Keanu Reeves as Clathu was a heartless and breathless interpretation of the original...

    3. Re:The Day the Earth Stood Still by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      I always find it a classic when the two physicians talking about how Klatu recovered from gunshot wounds quickly, young healthy body for his age, and how backwards he makes modern earth medicine. And then pulls out a cigarette.

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    4. Re:The Day the Earth Stood Still by proffmw · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. The Day the Earth Stood Still (original version) is a well-told cautionary tale for a cold war audience that resonates today. And no need for bloodshed and explosions. Runners-up: Forbidden Planet, 2001, DarkStar, The Martian, and Interstellar

  62. Videodrome by gordonb · · Score: 1

    But many of Cronenberg's flics have sci-fi elements. Also, They Live is a underrated gem, though, if only for Rowdy Roddy Piper's surprising acting skills. But then, what do you expect from a professional wrestler.

    1. Re: Videodrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Hidden

    2. Re:Videodrome by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Carpenter's and Piper's DVD commentary is worth going through as well.

      If for nothing else, then to get the feel of both of them.
      Carpenter being this laid back, down to earth kinda guy, Piper being a really nice guy who had to go through some rough shit in life... but a bit... flaky.
      I mean... there you are, listening to two guys talking about the movie they made all those years ago, while watching the said movie... and then out of nowhere Piper hits you up with a conspiracy theory.
      And while Carpenter is all "Well I be damned." you google a bit and... oh... OH!

      Sadly, though they mention Hulk Hogan and his movies, they never address the PKE-meter situation.

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  63. The First 2/3 of Sunshine by Captain+Fallout · · Score: 1

    Is a fantastic, well acted, well written sci-fi movie with good characters trying to solve a scientific problem with the sun. It shows the limitations we as human beings have with space travel and puts the crew of Icarus 2 into situations that are believable based on potential travel to the sun.

    And then in the last 1/3 of the movie it turns into generic slasher movie in SPAAAAAACE for some inexplicable reason. Just completely 2 different movies. But those first 2/3 are really good.

    1. Re:The First 2/3 of Sunshine by matthias.paschke1 · · Score: 0

      Sorry only WHOLE movies, not part of a movie. You can even find a few seconds of good story telling in nearly every sci-fi flick, but that does not qualify this movie for this list.

  64. Old School : Darkstar by coastwalker · · Score: 2

    Has to be Darkstar, John Carpenters directorial debut, co written with O'Bannon. It is notable not least for the reuse of the alien beach ball as the star of Alien some six years later. Darkstar is possibly the best $60,000 ever spent on a movie. If you do not tell anyone else I can let on that it can be found on YouTube in a fairly low resolution. Absolute classic and funny as hell. Star Wars is of course Cowboys and Indians in space for twelve year olds.

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    1. Re:Old School : Darkstar by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      Liked it a lot, forgot about it until you mentioned it, good choice.

    2. Re:Old School : Darkstar by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      John Carpenter's The Thing was not really sci-fi, but ancient aliens were central to the plot so it's worth a mention at least. And it was a fucking awesome movie that still holds up.

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    3. Re:Old School : Darkstar by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 3

      And Darkstar inspired the greatest SF TV series ever: Red Dwarf.

    4. Re:Old School : Darkstar by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

      Mod up!!

    5. Re:Old School : Darkstar by balbeir · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. Trying to reason with a bomb and trying to convince it not to explode. That's pythonesqe

    6. Re:Old School : Darkstar by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Has to be Darkstar

      Let's have some music in here, Boiler.

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    7. Re:Old School : Darkstar by WeBMartians · · Score: 1

      Best (OK, "weirdest") theme song ever: Goin' Back t' Benson Arizona!

  65. Predestination (2014) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Based on the Heinlein short story. It makes you think and reflect.

  66. The Final Countdown by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...for its thoughtful resolution of the time travel causality paradox.

    1. Re:The Final Countdown by Megane · · Score: 1

      And it's just a damn good movie, too. But it took forever to get a DVD release because the rights were tied up for so long.

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      my favorite

  67. Code 46 by duckintheface · · Score: 1

    More original ideas per minute than any other sci fi film. And the ideas are subtle, not force fed. Samantha Morton's best work.

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    1. Re:Code 46 by vivian · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Matrix.
      Watching that movie for the first time with no idea what it was about was fantastic - was it a hacker movie? alien invasion? spy thriller or detective movie? some kind of martial arts superhero movie? Going down the rabbit hole was great.

      A shame they never made a sequel...

    2. Re: Code 46 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I happened to have exactly the same feelings. Moreover, I was stoned. Imagine.

    3. Re:Code 46 by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      They actually wrote a script for a sequel. A good one. A really, really good one. It had everything. It explained the missing links of the first one. It cast Morpheus into a MUCH darker light. And presented a really interesting dilemma: Is it acceptable to kill billions to free a few thousands. The dialogue between the Agents and Neo near the end alone is an absolutely priceless goosebumps moment of high cinema.

      Read it yourself. And weep that this movie never saw the light.

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    4. Re:Code 46 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were 2 sequels made

    5. Re:Code 46 by LiquidMind · · Score: 1

      Just got done reading this. You're right, what an amazing story. .....and what a waste.

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  68. Dark Star... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Who doesn't love a beachball alien and bombs with an attitude?

  69. Without a doubt... by andrewa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dark Star!

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    1. Re:Without a doubt... by laing · · Score: 1

      My favorite as well, but hard to find today. Has anybody remastered it into HD?

    2. Re:Without a doubt... by almitydave · · Score: 1

      Dark Star!

      Don't give me any of that intelligent life crap, just give me something I can blow up!

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    3. Re:Without a doubt... by andrewa · · Score: 1

      Not to my knowledge, I only replaced my VHS tape about six years ago with a DVD version of it, and that was hard enough to find at the time...

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    4. Re:Without a doubt... by laing · · Score: 1

      After I posted, I checked Amazon Prime and they have it! Also, it's $0.00 to stream for Prime members. I have added it to my watch list. My kids are now old enough to appreciate it.

    5. Re:Without a doubt... by andrewa · · Score: 1

      Nice! I'll try and convince my wife and son to watch it with me. They both mock me when I suggest Dark Star (every time) they ask what we should watch...

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    6. Re:Without a doubt... by your_mother_sews_soc · · Score: 1

      My first thought was "Blade Runner" and lo and behold it was the first post. Appropriately so, I might add. Then, I thought "Dark Star" - who wouldn't want to argue existential philosophy with a bomb, or surf into the rings of Saturn? Yes, I shall vote for "Dark Star".

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    7. Re:Without a doubt... by el_possum · · Score: 1

      Hell yeah, Pinback and Talby! Hilarious movie that my wife was obsessed with.

    8. Re:Without a doubt... by Bongo · · Score: 1

      Dark Star isn't a movie I would re-watch often, but it is definitely my favourite for great sci-fi:

      an alternate reality, set in space; comments and satire on the human condition; philosophy "teach it phenomenology", and a hilarious critique of that philosophy; and just plain silly to boot; all on a shoestring budget. Plus the hint that, you can look at the universe and humans as mean, empty, meaningless wastes of space, but one can also revel in wonder and awe, just marvel at it all.

      In those respects it fulfils what masterpieces like 2001 and Bladerunner also accomplished.

    9. Re:Without a doubt... by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      "Lets have some music in here, Boiler" https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    10. Re:Without a doubt... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Let there be light!"

  70. Ringworld by KlomDark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh wait, James Cameron's been sitting on the rights for that for almost two decades so he can waste our time with giant blue aliens encounter generic military stereotypes.

    Either use your rights, or give them to someone else already, John. My opinion of you has gone from top-notch to meh about you over the years. Shit or get off the pot.

    1. Re:Ringworld by freeze128 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If it's "rights sitting" that you're interested in, try "Rendezvous with Rama". Thank Morgan Freeman for that.

    2. Re:Ringworld by matthias.paschke1 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft stole the visual assets of Ringworld with its computer game HALO...

    3. Re:Ringworld by westlake · · Score: 1

      Shit or get off the pot.

      Ringworld, like Rendezvous with Rama, began as a science problem story with the rigorous puzzle logic of a Lucas Arts adventure game. There is a reason why the smart money goes into more accessible projects like Guardians of the Galaxy.

    4. Re:Ringworld by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld

      There have been many aborted attempts to adapt the novel to the screen.

      In 2001, Larry Niven reported that a movie deal had been signed and was in the early planning stages.[8][9]

      In 2004, the Sci-Fi Channel reported that it was developing a Ringworld miniseries.[10] The series never came to fruition.

      In 2013, it was again announced by the SyFy Channel that a miniseries of the novel was in development. This proposed 4-hour miniseries is being written by Michael R. Perry and will be a co-production between MGM Television and Universal Cable Productions.[11]

      Remembering about Dune, I'm not sure if it's good or bad that they didn't make a movie of the novel.

    5. Re:Ringworld by mykepredko · · Score: 1

      God, I hope they never make Ringworld into a movie - too much for two hours.

      Mini-series at least, three years with the third (horrible) book basically forgotten.

      Same with Rendezvous with Rama.

    6. Re:Ringworld by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Meh, HALO was bought when they acquired Bungie Studios, but those rings are piddly, like the diameter of a planet. Ringworld is 1AU in diameter and something like 25,000 miles wide, which is a whole different ballgame with an entire universe of books around it including nearly all of Niven's books. Most of Niven's work would be better served as a miniseries on Syfy channel, like the BSG reboot. CGI and effects are so good and cheap these days that kind of thing is better in many ways. I would also love to see some of the Man-Kzin wars on the big or small screen. Wookies are just overgrown teddy bears compared to the Kzin.

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    7. Re:Ringworld by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      True, it's way too much for a single movie to be done right. I would just like to see a super high resolution dive into Ringworld from the edge of the solar system to the landing on the floor - something I hope to get to see before I die.

      You can probably skip Ringworld Throne (#3), but you can't end the miniseries without Ringworld's Children (#4).

      Also would be good to spin into the Protector story which has a lot of lead-up to Ringworld with the Pak Protectors.

    8. Re:Ringworld by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So.. You two make me sad. Not because I those are bad, I LOVE both of those (Especially Rama - and if they do Ringworld, they better not mess up the Kzinti or Puppeteers) - but because I had no idea people got rights and are sitting on them. MAKE THE FILMS!!!! (But don't screw them up!)

  71. Easy choice by rholtzjr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Fifth Element. Just like in real life, you know you have an arch nemesis out there, you just may never meet them. Your actions are always in direct conflict with theirs even if you never come face to face with them.

    1. Re: Easy choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I have to say that whoever he is, he's been pretty successful so far.

      I occasionally catch a glimpse of him in the mirror.

  72. I can't watch it now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forbidden Planet

    I keep expecting Leslie Nielsen to crash the ship, trip over something and allow the 'monster' to get in, allow the blond to get eaten by the tiger, ....

    BTW, THE WORST sci-fi/commedy/any genre movie was a Leslie Nielsen movie called 2001: A Space Travesty - travesty all right!

  73. Amazon Women on the Moon by PPH · · Score: 2

    n/t

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    1. Re:Amazon Women on the Moon by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      The best part about that movie is Arsenio Hall getting tortured by everything in his apartment.

    2. Re:Amazon Women on the Moon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The best part about that movie is Arsenio Hall getting tortured by everything in his apartment.

      You misspelled "Monique Gabrielle nekkies"

  74. Project X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 1968 William Castle one.

  75. (1969) The Moon Landing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NASA and KUBRICK were an awesome team. The Director's cut and intermission (Red Rum) were chilling.

  76. "The Host" or "Moon" by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

    nt

  77. How are we all missing this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Colossus: The Forbin Project

    1. Re:How are we all missing this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being remade with a new title... Micro$oft: The NSA Project.

  78. Alien, Silent Running, Blade Runner, and by gmacd · · Score: 1

    Planet of the Apes.

    Bonus movie - the day the earth stood still.

    Hard to pick just one!

    1. Re:Alien, Silent Running, Blade Runner, and by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Which version of PotA? Heston or Wahlberg?

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  79. The right blend of ingredients by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Silent running was one of those rare flicks that walks a nice line between deep thought premises and entertaining story and expansive special effects (as opposed to intimate films which deserve their own category).

    Chief on my list is Blade Runner. ghost in the machine (1995) Clockwork Orange

    Silent running is good but it doesn't hold up with time very well.

    powerful intimate films:
    moon, ex machina, the man from earth, primer

    other low budget sci-fi with high entertainment value:
    The 13th floor (overshadowed by being released near the Matrix)
    John dies at the end. (really awful but in a wonderful awful sort of way like Bill and Ted's excellent adventure was goofy good).
    Time Lapse. Some uneven acting but a thrilling story

    Films that succeed by sheer force of will rather than being perfect and must be admired for this tour de force:
    Avatar, Alien, Star Wars.

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    1. Re:The right blend of ingredients by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      My personal tag line for Avatar would have been "Political correctness from beyond the stars."

    2. Re:The right blend of ingredients by Ost99 · · Score: 1

      The 13th floor was overshadowed by the Matrix, but in the end it was a much better story than the Matrix (unless you stop after the first Matrix).
      I expected some 13th floor level nested realities with the Matrix, but was very disappointed (especially after the scene in where Neo seemed to have gained superpowers in the real world).

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  80. An Inconvenient Truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just kidding, it was shit.

    1. Re:An Inconvenient Truth by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure that An Inconvenient Truth has been moved to the Fantasy category.

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  81. Enemy Mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know it didn't had the best effects or CGI, but that was no important to the plot.

    Second option: Fifth Element.

  82. my favorite, show this to kids today, great fun by bigweenie · · Score: 2

    The Day the Earth Stood Still,1951

    1. Re:my favorite, show this to kids today, great fun by mykepredko · · Score: 1

      Surprised this isn't more popular.

  83. The Matrix by SniffTheGlove · · Score: 1

    My favourite has to be "The Matrix", watched it hundreds of times

    1. Re:The Matrix by matthias.paschke1 · · Score: 1

      Only the first movie! The successors do not even got near the same level...

    2. Re:The Matrix by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Let me know when you figure out the science behind using people as sources of electricity. My bill last month was really high and I have some noisy neighbors... just sayin.

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  84. Oldie but goodie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The original (black and white) "The day the earth stood still".

  85. Howard The Duck by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm surprised Howard The Duck hasn't been mentioned yet, I would have thought that was everyone's favourite sci-fi. Or are people not mentioning it because they see it more as a drama?

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    1. Re: Howard The Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flash Gordon had better music.

    2. Re:Howard The Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I think people aren't mentioning it because it's an awful movie.

    3. Re:Howard The Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised as hell Gayn-iggers from Outer Space wasn't mentioned yet.

    4. Re:Howard The Duck by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      My troll detector just went off. After Howard the Duck, the MPAA should have burned Lucas' directors chair and banned him for life.

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    5. Re:Howard The Duck by sabbede · · Score: 1

      The Sci-fi aspects are totally overshadowed by the interpersonal drama and character development. A film of sublime genius to be sure.

    6. Re:Howard The Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People only hated it because of one scene. It's so obvious that I don't even have to mention the two words that describe it. Outside of that, the movie was entertainingly stupid.

  86. Some old some new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    War of the Worlds (1953)
    Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
    Fifth Element
    When Worlds Collide (1951)
    The Matrix

  87. I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Verdatum · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Gattaca followed the rules of what Science Fiction should be, from it's traditional meaning, extremely well. It took a scientific premise, and explored how the world would be shaped socially as a result of that premise. The result, forces the viewer to reexamine the current state of society in the present and their feelings about it. I really can't think of all that many films that do a good job of that.

    I love 2001, but many of the key themes are more in the realm of fantasy. I love Forbidden Planet but it's really an adaptation of The Tempest; replacing the sorcery with science. Metropolis is a beautiful film, but it hardly depends on the scientific themes to deliver its message. Same thing with most of the other dystopian films like Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, 1984, or Logan's Run.

    But that's really the tricky part about "best science fiction". You've gotta get everyone to agree on what defines quality science fiction.

    1. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The elements of 2001 you claim to be "more in the realm of fantasy" can also be explained as technology so advanced it appears to be magic. In regards to Forbidden Planet, it doesn't matter if the movie is based on The Tempest; the movie itself is based on science fiction topics, props, and story telling. For these two movies there is (IMO) no need to "define" them, they are science fiction.

    2. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Verdatum · · Score: 1
      The AI elements of 2001 with the Hal-9000 are valid science fiction. The concept of colonizing the moon or mars are science fiction concepts too. A Black Obelisk presented by hyper-dimensional aliens being the mechanism to spark human evolution is the problem part for me.

      Forbidden Planet doesn't really investigate any science topics. It's psychokinesis, a homonculus (robot-servent), and explorers. No science required. The extinct society that had inhabited the planet before them might be science-fiction, but it is barely explored, and only in a hearsay manner. I don't mean to completely reject them as Science Fiction; I'm just saying that depending on the definition you go with, they may not be the "best" science fiction.

    3. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Somehow I always pair Gattica in my mind with Minority Report...

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    4. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      That was the point Clarke was getting at, and it's an integral part of the plot. When the early hominids encounter the first monolith, its very presence is god-like, and that is reiterated with the encounter of the second monolith on the moon, the stargate orbiting Jupiter, and the final monolith as Bowman is dying. Probably the only really "out there" concept is the wormhole, but even the harder SF is forced to invoke some sort of FTL to make galaxy-hopping possible.

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    5. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Gattaca followed the rules of what Science Fiction should be, from it's traditional meaning,"

      But you didn't follow the rules of how to use the apostrophe. it's means it is.

    6. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Verdatum · · Score: 1

      I hadn't thought of that. Interesting point. I enjoyed Gattaca more, but they do explore some similar themes.

    7. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Verdatum · · Score: 1

      Imagine a futuristic society in a world where people don't bother to point out grammatical typos unless they cause actual ambiguity. Coming to theaters Summer 20....Ya know what, no one would ever buy that premise; project canceled.

    8. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by greggman · · Score: 1

      The biggest problem I had with Gattaca is the *main* part, not being able to get into the space program because your genes are bad, is not Sci Fi. It's been part of NASA since it started. The fact that the main character would risk a multi-billion dollar program was just selfish and irresponsible.

      As another example the Air Force also screens. They might not use direct genetic testing but many of the tests to be a fighter pilot amount the same thing. Example: Eye sight not 100% perfect, no piloting for you.

    9. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Something that deserves a mention although I hate the director: The Island.

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    10. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by Verdatum · · Score: 1

      I've never heard of NASA checking genotype in the beginning, and I don't believe I've heard of them checking it since. When Gattaca came out, we still hadn't even sequenced a single human genome. So yeah, if you need glasses, you're out; two friends of mine lost out on their dreams of piloting because of that; one, an officer in the USAF, the other, a graduate degree holder applying to NASA (unrelated, but another friend of mine is an engineer at NASA Goddard). But if you pass all the tests of your ability, you qualify. It is science fiction because it allows these sort of discussions. Certainly, the main character used deception. But the question raised is that could it be true that you can rise above the genotype, such that the test criteria aren't appropriate? Can you know for certain that you aren't risking a multi-billion dollar program, because you are so confident in your ability to succeed every bit as well as the person with the better genes?

    11. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      You've gotta get everyone to agree on what defines quality science fiction.

      I'd like to start off with "No Ethan Hawke".

    12. Re:I think Gattaca deserves a mention by wickerprints · · Score: 1

      This too is one of my favorite movies, and one reason why I like it so much is because of its distinctive visual style; the choice to not rely on elaborate sets or visual effects, as is typical of much of the sci-fi genre.

      Many people interpret this film as a cautionary tale, and rightly so. But I also saw it as an inspirational story, in which the depth of Vincent's aspirations and sheer determination in the face of overwhelming societal and biological pressure, nevertheless triumphs. It isn't that the naysayers were wrong per se--he was in fact physically inferior, both to his brother Anton and to Jerome, the man whose identity he borrowed. It's that he succeeded because there is no gene for the drive to succeed. And that, I think is the most central message of the movie, rather than the warning about letting genetics decide our destinies, and why this movie is so great.

  88. The Moon Landing by Kubrick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was shot with the same awesone style as Space Oddysey. And I must say, The Shining was a great companion and key.

    I think it flopped though because 2/3rds of the subcontracted compamies involved for R&D didnt contribute. If I ran the numbers right, The Moon Landing cost was the equivalent of average movie viewers being billed $100 a seat for the damn thing, and the food still is terrible as Tang.

    We didnt see a better film until Aliens, but that was too farvinto the future and I want to spend more time on Mars and that is where Geffen proved a greater value tgan NASA. With Geffen, it only cost me $10 for 2 theater seats and I brought my own banannas! I went to Mars, saw 3-titted mutant women, alien human hybrids, and action fight scenes.

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  89. Mine: by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Informative

    In whatever order I'm in the mood for, which varies:

    Bladerunner - the original, with the narration.
    Firefly - TV show same. These were just plain fun, except for the pilot's death, which struck me as uncalled for.
    Starship Troopers - loved the twisted angle on government. Great bugs. Would you like to know more?
    Paul - hilarious, totally non-serious SF.
    Alien (original) - great SF horror, and great SF besides.
    Terminator - original
    The Martian - really good hard SF, quite rare to find

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    1. Re:Mine: by tquasar · · Score: 1

      Paul. Simon Pegg and Nick Frost have a chemistry that works. Two mates I'd like to share a pint with at the pub. Their reality is so convincing that the movie doesn't seem to be sci-fi. Kristin Wigg contributes to the Inspector Closueau ineptness of the groups situation. The voice of Paul was familiar and it took me a while to figure out it was Mr. Rogen.

    2. Re:Mine: by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      Starship Troopers -

      Not to mention Denise Richards wasn't too hard to look at in that flick :)

    3. Re:Mine: by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      In no particular order:

      The Empire Strikes Back
      2001: A Space Odyssey
      Alien
      Aliens
      The Day The Earth Stood Still
      The Wrath of Khan
      Bladerunner
      Pitch Black

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    4. Re:Mine: by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, and The Martian too. I really think it's probably the best hard sci fi film ever made (maybe the only real hard sci fi film made). While it's a modern film, there's something about it that is just so Golden Age Hal Clement-style SF, populated with scientists and technicians, where the heroes are people with brains and know-how.

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    5. Re:Mine: by Lorens · · Score: 1

      Starship Troopers - loved the twisted angle on government.

      Starship Troopers... maybe nice in itself as an action/SF movie, but for the twisted angle on government you really have to read the book. I felt the political commentary was totally buffed out in the film.

    6. Re:Mine: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The pilots death may have been uncalled for , but it sets up the best Firefly joke I groaned to.

      How do Reavers clean their spears?
      They put them through the Wash....

    7. Re:Mine: by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      maybe the only real hard sci fi film made

      Apart from 2001, which was mentioned in the very comment you responded to, I would nominate The Andromeda Strain, Moon, Interstellar, and Gattaca has being hard sci-fi.

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    8. Re:Mine: by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Really? The book must be overwhelmed by the stuff then, because the film is almost completely full of it.

    9. Re:Mine: by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Really? The book must be overwhelmed by the stuff then, because the film is almost completely full of it.

      He's right. The book takes a much more serious look at government than the movie does. Books are a better platform for that sort of detail than movies are, there's just no way around that. But the movie does an excellent job of implying all manner of things without the detail, as such things go, and the post here was about movies, not books, so I made no commentary on that initially.

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    10. Re:Mine: by Oneflower · · Score: 1

      I'd add:

      Repo Man

      Iron Giant

    11. Re:Mine: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did not think that the movie was nearly as good as the book. Though I agree about Denise Richards.

    12. Re:Mine: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't watch the others but Interstellar took some seeeerious liberties. Did the author ever hear the term "delta-V"?

    13. Re:Mine: by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Paul. Simon Pegg and Nick Frost have a chemistry that works.

      They certainly do, but Paul isn't my favorite Pegg/Frost film. That would probably be Hot Fuzz.

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    14. Re: Mine: by spongman · · Score: 1

      The book is about as subtle as a brick in the face, and in some cases it seems
      like it's advocating for fascism. The film, on the other hand, does it with satire (and bugs and boobs). All of which makes it significantly better than the book.

    15. Re:Mine: by lgw · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, and The Martian too. I really think it's probably the best hard sci fi film ever made

      I think you might be a bit biased here.

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  90. "Great minds think alike..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Glad you enjoyed it "Is this life lonely?" (one of my fav parts) & ya gotta love "Mr. Robertson" too: "You're here to create history & influence ways to come..."

    * "You, have a LONG journey ahead of you - They say that the journey of a 1,000 miles starts RIGHT @ your feet - my feet could sure use a rest..."

    (... & "You're going to save MILLIONS of lives - you're about to embark on the most important job a man has ever had... & you're going to do great - I know!")

    APK

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  91. Buckaroo Banzai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't see it listed, but "Buckaroo Banzai" is a classic that I still enjoy watching.

  92. Buckaroo Banzai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very funny, and also makes one think about racial stereotypes.

    "Laugh while you can monkeyboy"

  93. Contact by flightmaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because it's an almost totally original concept, not relying at all on hyperdrives or laser canons. Maybe the producers got some ideas from "Stargate" which preceded it by three years.
    Because it's suitable for everybody.
    Because it's based on something that we can all participate in, the SETI project.

    I'm wondering if and hoping that there will be a sequel in 2024.

    1. Re:Contact by cellocgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are you really not aware that Contact is based on the Carl Sagan novel, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Stargate?

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    2. Re:Contact by txmason · · Score: 1

      Contact was based on a novel by Carl Sagan. It was a very faithful adaptation.

    3. Re:Contact by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Stargate seems to have been inspired by "Tunnel in the Sky" by Heinlein. Not many similarities except for instant transport between planets though.

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    4. Re:Contact by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I'll put my money on Stargate owing a lot to Brian Lumley's "Necroscope" novels from the one where Russians open up a gate to the vampire world. The gate, aliens as parasites in human hosts and a few other bits.

    5. Re:Contact by ytene · · Score: 1

      Doh! function = fiction...

    6. Re:Contact by phorm · · Score: 1

      Interesting thought. I've read the book series (well, all the books I could find locally, they're a bit hard to track down) and watched the various Stargate series, but never really connected the two. There are similarities in the backplot, but I'm fairly sure that alien parasites is a not uncommon concept and wormholes for travel is similarly common in sci-fi.

      Good books, though.

    7. Re:Contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      :+1:

    8. Re:Contact by dbIII · · Score: 1
      I suppose I connected the two because the series was still coming out a book every year or so when the Stargate movie came out (so the first book with the gate would have been about five or six years before the movie release).

      but I'm fairly sure that alien parasites is a not uncommon concept

      That's true, but the way the vampires and Goa'uld were done did not seem so common at the time - it seemed like Lumley had a fairly new take on the vampire story to fit it into an SF context and Stargate took it and changed the name to ghouls instead.
      At least that's what it looked like at the time, and I'm not knocking Stargate since it appears that I must have watched everything with that name on it right from the excellent movie to the final series that found it's feet just in time to be cancelled. They appear to have taken the idea and put enough of a twist on it to make it their own (like they did with borrowing "greys" and making them Asgardians).

    9. Re:Contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> but I'm fairly sure that alien parasites is a not uncommon concept
      > That's true, but the way the vampires and Goa'uld were done did not seem so common at the time

      It always seemed to me like a direct rip-off of the Dax symbiont from DS9.

    10. Re:Contact by dbIII · · Score: 1

      It always seemed to me like a direct rip-off of the Dax symbiont from DS9.

      Necroscope III (the source) - 1989.
      Stargate Movie - 1994.
      Stargate Deep Space 9 - 1993

      It takes quite a bit of time to make a movie (especially a CGI heavy one like Stargate in the 1990s) so I don't think it was inspired by Dax.

    11. Re:Contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't read Necroscope, thanks for that.

      IIRC the Stargate movie didn't depict the Goa'uld as parasitic creatures living inside the abdomen, it just vaguely described how Ra "took human form." Didn't the stomach-eel (and the name Goa'uld) first appear in SG-1 in 1997?

    12. Re:Contact by dbIII · · Score: 1
      I do not remember that detail but there were quite a few similarities between some things in the Stargate movie and Necroscope III (the source).

      Here's an old newsgroup post:

      As many of you know, one of my longest running pet peeves with the newsgroup has been the constant resurgence of the Necroscope Movie debate. I am (un)happy to say that I now have a new pet peeve. This one does not involve the newsgroup, but rather the film industry. I have begun noticing many movies with storylines very similar to some of Brian's finest works. A short list of these films would include Event Horizon, Stargate, Stargate-SG1, and more recently The Sixth Sense. Each of these movies has made some use of one or more of Brian's original ideas. Whether it is the Möbius Continuum in Event Horizon or the Egyptian/Alien gods of Stargate why doesn't anybody think to step up and give credit where credit is due? Furthermore, where do you draw the demilitarized zone between artistic license, an original idea, and a blatant rip-off?

      While that doesn't actually prove anything it's an indication of an opinion among readers of the novels based on a perception of a range of similarities instead of just one or two similar ideas.
      I also have that opinion. The writers of Stargate may have arrived at those ideas without actually taking them wholesale from a novel with very wide distribution but I think it is more likely that the novel had a major influence.
      Since Lumley owes a lot to Stoker etc it's probably not a huge deal anyway.

    13. Re:Contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Contact is one of my all-time favorites, although I think I like the book a little better.

      I saw Arrival recently and feel it is like a cousin to Contact -- covers some of the same themes in a different way.

    14. Re:Contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's an almost totally original concept, not relying at all on hyperdrives or laser canons. Maybe the producers got some ideas from "Stargate" which preceded it by three years.
      Because it's suitable for everybody.
      Because it's based on something that we can all participate in, the SETI project.

      I'm wondering if and hoping that there will be a sequel in 2024.

      I loved the book. I really liked the movie - but was shocked (& disappointed) that it left out the punchline!

      Just got goosebumps again thinking about the punchline (semi spoiler below). Wow. Just, wow.

      Sometimes I wonder about not hearing more about the dropped ending more. Is my memory playing tricks on me? If not, it makes me wonder whether the edition of the book I read (many years before the movie) was different from the US version. All I'll say is to my recollection ... Ellie looked into pi, and found something.

    15. Re:Contact by phorm · · Score: 1

      To be honest I'm just happy to find somebody else who read/liked Necroscope. It's a pretty underrated series, and the premise could make a good TV show on its own. :-)

      Maybe we'll see it on Netflix one day.

  94. Re:To avoid normal responses: Nightwatch and Daywa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I liked these movies (Nightwatch & Daywatch) but they are not science fiction; they are fantasy (as previously stated).

  95. Iron Sky, sitrict 9 by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    Ones that sort of straddles the intimate/big effects
        District 9 . (south african alien flick)

    And ones that straddle the "sheer force of will", low budget, and goofy good category
        Iron sky
        sky commander and the world of tomorrow

    while the latter technically did get the hollywood budget treatement the back story is the key elements were done over 10 years on an old macintosh before being re-made.

    My main criteria here is films I enjoy watching again.

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    1. Re:Iron Sky, sitrict 9 by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Goofy - "Space Marines": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt01...

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    2. Re:Iron Sky, sitrict 9 by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 1

      I love Iron Sky -- the only disappointment was the rendering of the starfield that represents "outer space". Way too many stars -- looks fake. The rest of the movie however -- fantastic and the heroine is a real babe too! :-)

      I also like 5th Element, Armageddon, Demolition Man, Independence Day and a few other blockbusters. Okay, I'm a sucker for big budgets, name-actors and CGI :-)

    3. Re:Iron Sky, sitrict 9 by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Way too many stars -- looks fake

      I can't remember that, but I have been reading some stuff about the Gemini astronauts and they mentioned how many more stars they could see from orbit. Photos apparently don't do it justice and usually just show the bright stuff.

    4. Re:Iron Sky, sitrict 9 by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      You would be surprised how many stars you see:

      • you go out of your light polluted city or town
      • you are out at sea or in a desert or in pampas or prairie
      • you are on a very high mountain
      • you are actually in outer space
      • you are on the night side of the moon and earth is behind horizon

      Or you can look at some photos of NASA :)

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  96. GATTACA by mrflash818 · · Score: 1

    GATTACA would be my favorite, recently.

    Trouble is, I have many many favorites, almost impossible to pick just one, as "the favorite!"

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  97. I Married a Monster from Outer Space by hey! · · Score: 1

    Perhaps because despite its sensational title, cheesy special effects, and the fact that it's a low-budget rehash of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, it's actually quite thoughtful and intelligently executed. The monsters of the title aren't monsters at all, but aliens with understandable if scientifically preposterous motivations. Yet it doesn't fall into the modern who's-the-real-monster-here pitfall: the humans have legitimate reason to fear and even kill the aliens.

    One of the reasons I like this movie is that it shows that low budget and vulgar popular tastes are no excuse for making a stupid, boring movie. If you don't have enough money for color film, use black and white to create atmosphere. If you don't have the money for special effects, use storytelling to engage the audience with suspense.

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    1. Re:I Married a Monster from Outer Space by slew · · Score: 1

      Perhaps because despite its sensational title, cheesy special effects, and the fact that it's a low-budget rehash of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, it's actually quite thoughtful and intelligently executed. The monsters of the title aren't monsters at all, but aliens with understandable if scientifically preposterous motivations. Yet it doesn't fall into the modern who's-the-real-monster-here pitfall: the humans have legitimate reason to fear and even kill the aliens.

      One of the reasons I like this movie is that it shows that low budget and vulgar popular tastes are no excuse for making a stupid, boring movie. If you don't have enough money for color film, use black and white to create atmosphere. If you don't have the money for special effects, use storytelling to engage the audience with suspense.

      Or if you have no money to pay for extras, use a loaf of bread...

  98. The Day the Earth Stood Still by Snard · · Score: 1

    No comment needed, but it won't let me post without one.

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  99. Serenity! by haemish · · Score: 1

    I'm still waiting for the "Tales of Known Space" to turn into a movie series.

  100. Alien (1979) by cyberpunkrocker · · Score: 1

    The one and original "Alien" (1979). Nothing comes even close...

  101. First, what makes a good Sci-Fi... by adameros · · Score: 1

    A good Sci-Fi should be philsopjical in nature. Asking questions about life in the Universe, our place in it, etc. This is why Star Trek is good Sci-Fi and Star Wars is a good space adventure (but not Sci-Fi). In my mind, the best Sci-Fi ever put to screen is Blade Runner.

    1. Re:First, what makes a good Sci-Fi... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Indeed, good sci-fi usually has at it's heart a critique about modern day society. The science fiction element is to draw us out of our current reality so we can better look at our current reality from a distance.

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    2. Re:First, what makes a good Sci-Fi... by garyoa1 · · Score: 1

      Yep. That's Sci-fi vs. Sci-fantasy.

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    3. Re:First, what makes a good Sci-Fi... by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      Nah, that's bollocks. Sci Fi has many subgenres and not all of them are deeply philosophical or have to be. Military fiction and Space Opera are science fiction, too, and it is possible to make good movies about any conceivable topic and genre.

      The problem is that in sci fi movies silly action and horror is overrepresented and generally sci fi movies are way lower quality than science fiction in literature. That has always bothered me, and it doesn't look as if it's going to change anytime. I have no idea why, as it's not like this for other genres - e.g. crime novels and movies are much more on a par. Maybe it has to do with the production studios and film funding.

  102. An Inconvenient Truth by pipingguy · · Score: 2

    Or maybe Plan 9 From Outer Space.

  103. Bladerunner - Do androids dream of electric sheep? by jonbenson · · Score: 1

    Bladerunner. I always go back to that movie.

  104. Apollo Moon Landing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stanley Kubrick has better visuals!

  105. Bend rules? by garyoa1 · · Score: 1

    If it bends the rules of science it's sci-fantasy, not sci-fi.

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    1. Re:Bend rules? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Approximately every science fiction movie ever made bends the rules of science. Almost all written science fiction does the same.

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  106. Re:The Day the Earth Stood Still ROCKS!!! by bigweenie · · Score: 1
  107. An Inconvenient Truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the sequel. And anything by Michael Moore.

    RRK

  108. So many to choose from.. by jmcwork · · Score: 1

    The Matrix, Bladerunner, Alien(s), The Andromeda Strain (original), Fantastic Voyage, and (guilty pleasure) The Last Starfighter

  109. How about ... Weird Science, Real Genius by gosand · · Score: 2

    along with Tremors, Terminator/Terminator2, and Back to the Future. All great ones in my book!

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    1. Re:How about ... Weird Science, Real Genius by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Watched Tremors with my much younger brother and he was scared to walk on unpaved ground for months lol.

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  110. does dr. strangelove count? by steak · · Score: 1

    cause that's my answer. otherwise fifth element.

  111. Buckaroo Bonzai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For me, it's gotta' be The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension. Peter Weller, John Lithgow, Jeff Goldblum, Elen Barkin and many more...

  112. The man from earth (2007) by CptLoRes · · Score: 2

    No special effect and no budget. Just a bunch of good actors in a room with an interesting concept.

    1. Re:The man from earth (2007) by matthias.paschke1 · · Score: 1

      Fully agree but this movies' genre is a mere mystery movie. But the movies' story itself - WOW!!!

  113. motes on mute by epine · · Score: 2

    The only flaw I can find is when Jupiter ignites there is a sound, which of course there wouldn't be.

    This is one of the most ridiculous memes ever. Sound is a mechanical vibration, and Jupiter probably vibrates like hell after it ignites.

    What people mean is that there is no direct transmission of physical sound waves through the vacuum of space.

    Snooping Through Walls with Microwaves
    Laser microphone

    On 25 August 2009, U.S. Patent 7,580,533 was issued for a device that uses a laser beam and smoke or vapor to detect sound vibrations in free air ("Particulate Flow Detection Microphone based on a laser-photocell pair with a moving stream of smoke or vapor in the laser beam's path"). Sound pressure waves cause disturbances in the smoke that in turn cause variations in the amount of laser light reaching the photo detector.

    Or you could drop a few thumb-sized motes.

    I like 2001, the Russian Solaris, and A Scanner Darkly.

    Blade Runner and Alien were better than a jab in the eye.

    If we further widen the net to include Space Fiction, The Wrath of Kahn rocks; while A New Hope and WALL-E both have their moments.

    If we further wide the net to include any form of thematic overlap, I'd include The Right Stuff, Apollo 13, the first Back to the Future, the first Iron Man, select chunks of The Terminator franchise, RoboCop, Young Frankenstein, Dr Strangelove, and certain aspects of The Fifth Element. One might even include the sensibility of Tree of Life or Hugo.

    I'll also give an honourable to The City of Lost Children, because I would actually rewatch that movie. Can't recall much of anything about the plot (not usually a good sign), but there's plenty of there there in other regards. In a pinch, I could rewatch Dune as an entertaining car wreck.

    Unfortunately, much of the rest of the canon only serves to rouse my appetite without entirely beddin' her back down.

    Note that I did not exclude any Spielberg movies by accident. If I had to rewatch one, it would be THX 1138. Spielberg is so sentimental, I'm soon humming Indian Love Call and wishing it would work.

    On my list as the least science fiction film ever made would be the original Matrix. Perhaps the humans harvested for their cerebellar electricity was a satirical neoliberal talking point adapted from Ayn Rand.

    1. Re:motes on mute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good choices, I too liked Linklater's Scanner Darkly but felt they screwed the ending.

      One point though. Spielberg didn't have anything to do with THX1138, it was a poorly received George Lucas film that basically bankrupted Coppola's American Zoetrope. If we'd never had THX1138, Copplola probably wouldn't have done The Godfather.

    2. Re:motes on mute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note that I did not exclude any Spielberg movies by accident. If I had to rewatch one, it would be THX 1138.

      Spielberg is so sentimental that you'd only rewatch THX-1138, which was directed by George Lucas? :-)

    3. Re:motes on mute by smchris · · Score: 1

      Always do a "page find" first is my motto. In my case that reflects my sentiments about Spielberg and THX-1138 was the movie that came to my mind first. At least the director did _one_ good movie. ;) Did a hell of a job predicting the future and probably will continue to do so.

    4. Re:motes on mute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, what? The objection is that the sound can't pass from Jupiter to the camera, not that Jupiter doesn't vibrate. Optical detection of sound waves in air coupling to smoke via that air are irrelevant; sound waves still do not exist in a vacuum. Jupiter vibrates and the vibrations do not couple to a fluid that can transmit them to the camera, so how does the camera pick up the "sound"? "Thumb sized motes" are not a part of the 2010 technology, BTW. Explain it without Deus Ex Machina from other sci-fi franchises.

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  115. Children of Men (2006) by McGruber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Children of Men (2006) It is about civilization collapsing, after 18 years of global human infertility. No spaceships, no aliens, no CGI; just a great story and amazing performances.

    1. Re:Children of Men (2006) by davide+marney · · Score: 2

      This is one of those rare movies based on a book where they keep the heart and soul of the book while changing just about every detail that can be changed, almost like an alternate-history version of the book. The acting is just outstanding, you won't find a better A-list cast brought to a SciFi movie. And the camera work! Truly an unforgettable movie.

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    2. Re:Children of Men (2006) by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I had forgotten about that one. Yes, that was a very good movie, and a very well done dystopia film that kept much of the darker aspects in check until the final half hour.

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    3. Re:Children of Men (2006) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Children of Men (2006) It is about civilization collapsing, after 18 years of global human infertility. No spaceships, no aliens, no CGI; just a great story and amazing performances.

      I wouldn't exactly call this movie science fiction, but more of a gritty christmas/nativity story. Just because a movie is dystopian, doesn't make it SciFi. The magical baby is almost a MacGuffin in a homeric quest and the movie doesn't really explore the collapse of civilization w/o children at any deeper level than a Mad Max movie...

      Still a well executed movie, but not really SciFi (however, the book was a bit more sci-fi)...

    4. Re:Children of Men (2006) by willoughby · · Score: 1

      And worth watching just for that long, continuous shot when they're all in the car. I'd love to see a behind the scenes video about how they did that.

    5. Re:Children of Men (2006) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you like sci-fi without all the sfx, I recommend "41".

      It's a time travel film, with no boring cgi, no guns, the world isn't based around US military culture (yay!), no fancy machines, no silly costumes.

      Synopsis: "A young man discovers a hole in the floor of a local motel that leads to yesterday."

      It's just a really beautiful story.

    6. Re:Children of Men (2006) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is loads and loads of CGI in Children of Men, you just don't notice it :)

    7. Re:Children of Men (2006) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. Children of Men is near perfect filmmaking.

    8. Re:Children of Men (2006) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except or the completely CG baby of course

    9. Re:Children of Men (2006) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize the baby is CGI, right?

      Great movie though.

  116. Impressed so many people said Gattaca by UpnAtom · · Score: 2

    Normally, everyone says Bladerunner. The latter is truly great, but it lacks the story and character development of Gattaca.

    The only real competition to Gattaca is Donnie Darko, but few think of it as sci-fi. Amazing they both came out in 2001.

    Matrix clearly superb, as is 2001: A Space Odyssey.
    "Her" is a great little film, the best sci-fi since Gattaca.
    Empire Strikes Back, Terminator (original) and The Thing -- all these are either perfect or borderline perfect.

    1. Re:Impressed so many people said Gattaca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The only real competition to Gattaca is Donnie Darko, but few think of it as sci-fi. Amazing they both came out in 2001.

      Gattaca is from 1997.

    2. Re:Impressed so many people said Gattaca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great post all around, but posted specifically to second the praise for "Her".

    3. Re:Impressed so many people said Gattaca by UpnAtom · · Score: 1

      Weird, I checked this only the other day.

      Thanks for the correction.

    4. Re:Impressed so many people said Gattaca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gattica was 1997, not 2001.

  117. Scariest and unbelievable... by driftin_drifter · · Score: 1

    2016 Presidential Election!

  118. TRON by Higaran · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is easily the first scifi film I remember watching when I was a kid, I remember most of the star wars and stuff but the first one I can remember was TRON. I also vividly remember The Last Star Fighter, and Wargames.

    1. Re:TRON by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      +1 for Tron. Not only was it an amazing movie in its own right, but if you watch the special features (or have previously been exposed to its story) it is even more impressive given what they had to work with. The capabilities of the computers they had access to helped define the designs of the vehicles in the movie, because of the relative capabilities of the systems in question. IIRC one of them could do curves well, and the other one could do shading well, something like that. Then the images were shot onto film from a vector display, frame by frame... Or how the hand-worked imagery of the actors' suits flickered, especially in certain scenes, so they added some sound effects to make it work and now it's an integral part of the film.

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    2. Re:TRON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TRON and the Apple 2+ are why I am a programmer.
       

  119. 2001 by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

    2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, AI, Andromeda Strain (original)

    Also, Aliens, Day the Earth Stood Still (original), Contact

    Also, War of the Worlds (either)

    Guilty pleasures: I Robot (Will Smith), Monolith Monsters, Colossus: The Forbin Project

  120. Dark Star by Zemran · · Score: 1, Informative

    ... no discussion.

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    1. Re:Dark Star by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      Drop Drop Drop! ;)

    2. Re:Dark Star by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Agreed.

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  122. Some honourable mentions by spiffyspiff · · Score: 1

    I love MANY of the films other peeps have already listed, but i reckon these deserve some attention too:

    The Abyss
    Delicatessen (I'd categorise it as Sci-Fi, YMMV)
    Armageddon
    Pitch Black
    Prometheus
    Rise of The Planet of The Apes
    Super 8

    1. Re:Some honourable mentions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Argh! No fan of "Prometheus" here.

      It's a shining example of how Ridley Scott does well when he has a good script, but he just has no discrimination or taste when it comes to bad scripts.

      He fell in love with the stupid "Chariots of the Gods" ancient alien concept and shoehorned it into the Alien universe. What a train wreck of a film!

  123. Brazil! by scatbomb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man, came here looking for Brazil, no mentions so far. I hope everyone takes the time to see this film.

    1. Re:Brazil! by PPH · · Score: 1

      The director's cut.

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    2. Re:Brazil! by avandesande · · Score: 1

      12 Monkeys was good too same director etc...

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    3. Re:Brazil! by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      Man, came here looking for Brazil, no mentions so far. I hope everyone takes the time to see this film.

      Agreed - as long as you're talking about one of the versions with the real ending, not the sanitized bullshit happy ending that Gilliam fought so hard to bury.

      Although I recommend Brazil highly, I've only seen it once; it was one of a handful of movies with such strong emotional impacts that I've been reluctant to watch them a second time.

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    4. Re:Brazil! by chasvircio · · Score: 1

      One of my all-time favs - Absolutely Love It!

    5. Re:Brazil! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brazil isn't sci-fi. It's zany madcap comedy.

    6. Re:Brazil! by martinX · · Score: 1

      Sci-fi or dystopian future? Very little sci in it. And I say this while at the same time putting Brazil as my #1 favourite movie.

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    7. Re:Brazil! by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

      Yes, but make sure you're wacked out of your box to appreciate to the full....

    8. Re:Brazil! by EmBeeDee · · Score: 1

      Seconded. Nothing else comes close, does it?

    9. Re:Brazil! by drdread66 · · Score: 1

      Not just my favorite sci-fi film, my favorite film in general. Agree with other comments about preferring the original version. The sappy end one sucks.

    10. Re:Brazil! by mr.bri · · Score: 1

      Help me out here, please. I like Brazil and I've probably watched it in full 10 times. However, I just don't fully "get it". I feel like I'm missing the deeper meaning that the film intends.

      My Google-fu fails me here and I've never been able to completely figure the movie out. My last few viewings have been more analysis (looking for symbolism in *everything*) so I'm not getting as much from the movie as I'd like.

      I think I get it on a high level (dystopian, capitalism, social commentary, etc) but I feel like I'm missing the true meaning and message of the film, which I also feel is there. Most of the movies I watch are for entertainment, but when it seems there's much more to it, I really want to understand it.

      Can someone break it down for me?

    11. Re:Brazil! by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 1

      I think it's a great film. I just didn't consider it science fiction. Taken with the rest of Terry Gilliam's "Trilogy of Imagination" (which includes Time Bandits and The Adventures of Baron Munchausen), I tend to lump it into the fantasy genre. But I can see how it might also fit within science fiction.

      For Terry Gilliam directed science fiction, I like Twelve Monkeys a lot as well.

      And while we're on the subject of time travel movies, why no significant mention of Looper so far? I was far more impressed by that movie than I expected to be when I saw it.

    12. Re:Brazil! by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      Have you seen Time Bandits and The Adventures of Baron Munchausen?

      Some people think of those two movies forming a trilogy with Brazil that cover the stages of life, going from the excitement and adventure of childhood dreams, to the loss of innocence and disillusionment of being a working adult, to the selective reminiscences of old age, with a tendency to romanticize your own past experiences.

      I think of Sam in Brazil as being the everyman who lost his dream, and settled for being a cog in a big machine, without any realization of the monstrous machinations going on around him and indeed implicating him. He doesn't have anything against Buttle or his wife, but he is part of the horrifying bureaucracy that eventually killed Buttle in the name of "protecting" the populace from terrorism.

      Sam longs for happiness with the girl of his dreams, but in real life she is not what he thinks she is. He doesn't really fit into the system that everyone else seems able to navigate, partly because he can't let go of his youthful idealism (and dreams of heroism) to climb the ladder like everyone else. Those in power are obsessed with security, surveillance, and regulating and automating everything people do, to the point that Sam is helpless even to keep his apartment at a comfortable temperature. He takes the "easy way" by letting Tuttle do the repairs, and by going outside the system he invites chaos into his life.

      In the end, he's unable to cope with harsh realities, the demands of ambition, rampant consumerism and politics he can't grasp. He retreats into madness, losing himself in imagination and in effect creating his own reality to escape the brutality of the "grown up" world.

      At least that's what I got out of it. :)

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  124. Tarkovsky's Solaris by ScuxxletButt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Solaris is my favorite, and a very, very close second is 2001.

  125. Emissary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DS9 pilot. /nuffsaid

    single best star trek episode ever, and one of the best 'movies' ever.

  126. THIS! and They Live. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The future isnt a compressed restricted postal worker, but free and full of danger!

    kickass!

  127. Another Earth by maiden_taiwan · · Score: 1

    "Another Earth" is not only a great SF movie, but IMHO was the best film of 2011. Great characters, intriguing story, thought-provoking ending. Anyone who hasn't seen it is missing a real treat.

    1. Re:Another Earth by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

      With original score by Fall On Your Sword, makers of Shatner Of The Mount, to boot.

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  128. Code 46 (2003) by Jeremi · · Score: 1

    I'll nominate "Code 46"; it was beautifully filmed and acted, and was science fiction but it wasn't about stuff blowing up or constantly rubbing CGI in your face, so to me it felt like it could be a story that might actually happen 40-50 years from now rather than a fantasy play-set with robots and spaceships.

    I'd link to the trailer, but the trailer is awful; it's better to just watch the movie directly.

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  129. Who can forget? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

    Of course, "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"...

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  130. The Twelve Monkeys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Terry GIlliam. Bruce Willis. Brad Pitt. Time travel, a future dystopia, and "I'm in insurance"/

    1. Re:The Twelve Monkeys by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      I was attacked by a coked up whore and a fsking crazy dentist! ;)

  131. Demolition Man by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I will probably be chastised for this... I always loved Demolition Man. Stallone is a terrible actor, the film isn't particularly artistic or high-brow, but it was a fun film, a sci-fi premise (right down to the morality study of today's society by using an abstract world).

    I liked it... sure, not the artistic appeal or thought provoking ability of Gattica. Perhaps not the commercial draw of Avatar. Still a fun film.

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    1. Re:Demolition Man by sconeu · · Score: 1

      How DO you use the shells?

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    2. Re:Demolition Man by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I don't know... but I hope it doesn't involve scraping. I don't want to scrape my butt with shells that other people have scraped their butt with.

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    3. Re:Demolition Man by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      Ever see someone play the castanets? The third is just a spare.

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    4. Re:Demolition Man by joboss · · Score: 1

      I like Soldier.

    5. Re:Demolition Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hee! hee! he doesn't know what to do with the shells! snort, guffaw..

    6. Re:Demolition Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will probably be chastised for this... I always loved Demolition Man. Stallone is a terrible actor, the film isn't particularly artistic or high-brow, but it was a fun film, a sci-fi premise (right down to the morality study of today's society by using an abstract world).

      I liked it... sure, not the artistic appeal or thought provoking ability of Gattica. Perhaps not the commercial draw of Avatar. Still a fun film.

      I have almost all films mentioned in this thread so far on DVD (or VHS), and although I would never mention Demolition Man as "the best" in any particular category, it is one of the most played in my collection. It's just a thoroughly enjoyable popcorn sci-fi/action flic with no real flaws, and no need to turn on your brain. Perfect for a relaxing night after a hard day's work.

    7. Re:Demolition Man by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      The world of Demolition Man was weird enough to be a plausible future. Also, note what happens in the car chase scene: there are no secondary accidents, because everyone else's self-driving cars cope nicely with the chaos around the main characters.

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  132. Lunopolis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's B movie that most people aren't going to understand. The plot is ridiculous, but it's done with such sincerity that it's become one of my all time favorites. It's a true gem that I encourage everyone to sit through.

  133. Silent Running is FLAT EARTH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so, what happens at the end?

    1. Re:Silent Running is FLAT EARTH! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      so, what happens at the end?

      The humans killed each other off and the robots take care of the plant life in the dome that's floating in space. This is probably the only bot movie that ever have the bots coming out as the winners.

    2. Re:Silent Running is FLAT EARTH! by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Somewhere, in the distant future, a movie of the short story in which all humans die, and the remaining robots are left on a planet to build their own civilisation, eventually re-discovering earth but being unable to imagine that they were created by organic life, and assume their ancestors are the rusted remains of cars and bulldozers, will be made

      And that will be the great bot movie in which the bots come out as the winners. Please, someone, make it.. (and also if you could let me know what the sci-fi story was, that would also be great). Remembered text from the story; "And now man dies, a mutant bacteriophage, vicious beyond imagination...".

    3. Re:Silent Running is FLAT EARTH! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      And that will be the great bot movie in which the bots come out as the winners.

      Transformers... Meh... ;)

  134. Something different by ChrisMaple · · Score: 3

    Not my favorite, but not mentioned yet
    Men in Black

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  135. Top 5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    1. The Matrix
    2. Serenity
    3. Tron
    4. Jurassic Park
    5. The Terminator

    Maybe some others would make the list if I thought about it more, but these are the sci-fi movies I like.

  136. Kaboom by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    Ok, as to the sound thing perhaps I should clarify.

    The scene is outside the ship and Jupiter explodes. You see the flash of light from the explosion and the sound at the same time. That wouldn't happen for a couple of reasons that I'm sure you know - light travels much faster than sound, and in space there is no medium to transmit the sound anyways. Yes, I'll grant you that if you were on the surface of Jupiter you would indeed hear a great kaboom in the instant before you died, I'm sure. But point being the crew on the Leonov wouldn't hear a kaboom. The wind rushing by noise as the shock wave passes is brilliant however. I thought they did that bit well.

    I realize that when something explodes in a movie the audience needs the audio cue of a kaboom noise or they don't know it's an explosion, so I give them a pass on it.

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    1. Re:Kaboom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gravity went out of its way to keep space mute. They may have gone too far; space debris hitting a construct you're touching will transmit sound through the construct (not air) and the rumbling is sensed as audio. The mind aggregates it naturally to deduce cues, you pick up supplementary "sound" in your body (often feet) all the time, you "hear" distant doors. I think you even get vibrated mediums making sound, like a wall compresses air on the other side, but don't quote me.

      Anyway, 2mute or no the audience had to fill in. When you see the station getting shredded, you feel the gap consciously breached as you manually inform your lower processes of the mass/scale onscreen, because their autonomics aren't parsing it.

  137. Battle Beyond the Stars... by magarity · · Score: 1

    ... is definitely the best sci-fi movie ever. If you haven't seen it, get a copy and watch it. And the best sci-fi TV series is definitely Starhyke starring Claudia Christian (the second in command from Babylon 5). You should get that and watch it too.

  138. Serenity/Firefly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    None better!

  139. Colossus: The Forbin Project by davide+marney · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    An under-appreciated masterpiece of solid, taut film-making of the kind they used to routinely turn out by the dozens every year. The tech has aged, of course, but the concepts are still as fresh as the day it was made.

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  140. Exposing my bad taste by Humbubba · · Score: 1
    Metropolis
    1. Videodrome

      First Men In The Moon

      Forbidden Planet

      Things To Come

      Invasion of the Body Snatchers

      The Incredible Shrinking Man

      Sleeper

      1984

      Fahrenheit 451

      Robinson Crusoe on Mars

      Slaughterhouse-Five

      Frankenstein (Boris Karloff)

      Bride of Frankenstein

      Young Frankenstein

      Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein

      Frankenstein Meets Godzilla

      (...Hell I must like all the Frankensteins.)

      The Re-Animator

      The Invisible Man (original)

      2010

      Ghost in the Shell (anime)

      The Day The Earth Stood Still (original)

      War of the Worlds (original)

      Blade Runner (Director's Cut)

      Brazil

      Terminator

      The Time Machine (original)

      The Golden Compass

      Boy and His Dog

      Alien

      The Thing (original)

      Clockwork Orange

      Soylent Green

      Planet of the Apes (originals)

      Solaris

      Dr. Strangelove

      Nosferatu (Big stretch here, but if it's SiFi, then both movies - they're just too good)

      Attack of the 50' Woman

      Godzilla

      Mothra

      Akira

      White Zombie

      The Man Who Fell to Earth

      Brother From Another Planet

      Repo Man

      The President's Analyst

      20,000 Leagues Under the Sea

      Being John Malkovich

      Meavy Metal (1981)

      Journey to the Center of the Earth

      Last Man on Earth

      Man With the Golden Gun

      Zardoz

      Outland

      Pi

      ... Augh! there's soooo much more

  141. Andromeda Strain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The movie portrayed the time and place very well. Cold war, searching for weapons, underground complex before the era of satellites watching everything, technology of the time, some of it innovative (like the room size glove box), the drama of thinking you covered your ass only to find an organism that can out think you by evolving and finally realizing the organism was engineered to tell you there is life among the stars.

    What it lacked? Military running about killing, fast cars and sex. You can't make a movie today without including at least two of those three.

  142. Doogie Howser is gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and now you are infected.

  143. Different movies for different purposes by chispito · · Score: 1

    If I want a mind-bender, 2001 is probably still the best that has been done.

    For atmosphere, Blade Runner.

    For a sensory experience, seeing Interstellar at the Chinese Theater in Hollywood made a huge impression on me. I wish the geek snobs could just enjoy it for what it is.

    For popcorn flics, it's Empire Strikes Back (Force Awakens is a close second in Star Wars), Back to the Future, and Jurassic Park. Those are all just so watchable movies to me. It takes almost no time for me to get lost in their worlds (Jurassic Park pun not intended).

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  144. Plan 9 by McGruber · · Score: 1

    Plan 9 from Outer Space

    Because Slashdot asked what's my favorite Sci-Fi movie, not what's the best Sci-Fi movie!

  145. A few foreign films by willoughby · · Score: 1

    "The Navigator": from AUS or NZ
    "The Last Combat": France
    "The Host": Korea

    1. Re:A few foreign films by davide+marney · · Score: 1

      Ooh, Le Dernier Combat, that is one strange flick! A terrific introduction to French film-making. This is the kind of film that got Luc Besson noticed back in his early days.

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    2. Re:A few foreign films by rworne · · Score: 1

      Saraba Yamato (Japan) is one of my personal favorites, even with the late 70's style animation. It's currently going through a reboot.
      The original Yamato, known as Star Blazers in the US, went through a reboot as well a few years ago (Yamato 2199). It's not bad either - arguably better than the original.

      Lots of treasure from that era. Leiji Matsumoto made wonderful films/series: Harlock - not the 2013 one, the 1970's one - (standing up for one's beliefs) and Galaxy Express 999 (what is it to be human?) are masterpieces.

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  146. I have a couple by throbber · · Score: 1

    The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

    The other one that sticks in my memory from when I was a kid was Brainstorm.

  147. The Fifth Element by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    . . . .even without Milla Jovovich.

    Multipass!

  148. The Last Starfighter by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not much science but using a video game to screen for hidden talents was pretty good. Plus Robert Preston was great as the alien.

    1. Re:The Last Starfighter by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      I think thats one of the last movies Robert (the music man) did?

    2. Re:The Last Starfighter by almitydave · · Score: 1

      Robert Preston is great, Dan O'Herlihy is great, the CGI is great. Definitely a favorite.

      "Don't worry, I'll have it all figured out by the time we reach the frontier."
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    3. Re:The Last Starfighter by Megane · · Score: 1

      It was "The Music Man: IN SPACE!"

      Also notable for being the first movie to do a full CGI sequence.

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    4. Re:The Last Starfighter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > BTW, the first film release with significant Computer Graphic effects.

      That would be TRON, unless you specifically mean photorealistic CGI.

  149. Two old ones by hambone142 · · Score: 1

    Invaders from Mars (the original) and They Day the Earth Stood Still.

  150. Ghett choo Ass ta Mozz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    moar liek dhis.

    retinue, pretty prease!

  151. Andrey Tarkovskiy's by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 1

    Stalker (1979)

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  152. 2001: A Space Odyssey by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    Have to rate that as my favorite sci-fi film.

    A few films which, IMO, have not received the deserved praise / acknowledgment:

    Ex Machina
    Looper
    Gattaca

    A crummy B-movie that has received orders of magnitude more praise than it deserves:

    The Matrix

    1. Re:2001: A Space Odyssey by almitydave · · Score: 1

      Ex Machina
      Looper

      Just saw Ex Machina, very impressed. Looper was waaaaay better than I expected it to be. A solid flick.

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    2. Re:2001: A Space Odyssey by shanen · · Score: 1

      I think you deserve a mod point for some sort of first post or best answer, but I never get mod points, so forget about it.

      Having said that, I'm not sure why this one came to my mind as the best SF movie. I don't like either version of the book that much, but the movie was spectacular and it was rather far ahead of its time, too. The computer graphics have reached the point where recent movies are just computer artifacts.

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  153. Strange Days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Saw this one all alone in a movie theater.
    Strange this cool movie wasn't mentioned yet here. Virtual reality sex ending at the turn of the millennium, partying like it's 1999.

    1. Re: Strange Days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Featuring (then) hotties Angela Bassett and Juliette Lewis.

    2. Re:Strange Days by ballpoint · · Score: 1

      Maybe this is more a film noir with a scifi plot device than an actual science fiction movie.
      Still, great suggestion. It's vastly underrated.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    3. Re:Strange Days by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      I remember seeing this in the theater (alone as well ;))

      the rape scene(s) were uncomfortable ..

  154. Re:Code 46 (2003) by davide+marney · · Score: 1

    Another under-appreciated gem. I keep coming back to this movie time and time again, and it has yet to lose its appeal. The acting is very well done, but I would mainly credit the story arc, which follows a kind of relentless path of inevitability, but avoids being predictable. This is great story-telling, and very believable.

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    "We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
  155. Alien (1979) to Serenity (2005) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  156. Timecrimes (2007) by DustPuppySnr · · Score: 2

    Not best, but pretty good and different. Made in 2007, but looks like it was made in the 70's.

    1. Re: Timecrimes (2007) by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      That's a confusing (though fascinating) film. I've seen it a couple of times and still don't think I've figured it out.

  157. Colossus: The Forbin Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have never seen it you owe it to yourself to check it out. Try to find a widescreen edition. Set your suspension of disbelief and effects critique to 1970.

  158. My top movies by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    Pi: saw this in the theater while on shrooms. Changed my life.

    Immortal (Ad Vitam): Brilliant, I still hear the "all your organs?" line in my head

    Equilibrium: Amazing action (gun kata), deep message. Of course, the "standards" like Blade Runner, Star Ship Troopers, all the others mentioned here.

    1. Re:My top movies by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      Pi i thought was boring and i felt it was a ripoff of eraserhead.. Anything on shrooms could change your life look at all that horrible grateful dead music ;)

      Immortal (Ad Vitam) was pretty cool.. i liked the actress quite beautiful.. lots and lots of CGI.... based off a another graphic novel as well?

      Equilibrium was ok.. but it smacked of the matrix.. Aeon Flux.. more meh..

    2. Re:My top movies by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      I think you mean LSD for the Dead...the only real similarity between Pi and Eraserhead is they are both in black and white. If your not into Kabbalism and the occult, then Pi probably is boring,...the whole film revolves around some pretty "esoteric" concepts in that reguard. Plus I like Aphex Twin far more than the Grateful Dead.

      I actually got the graphic novel after watching Immortal; the movie was pretty faithful (other than it's location). Fun trivia: the Egyptian they spoke is actually as close as anyone can get to the actual ancient Egyptian, as that version of the language is actually "long dead". There are still bits of that movie I don't quite grok.

  159. Does TV Count? by mykepredko · · Score: 1

    If so, then how about:
    - Battlestar Galactica
    - The Expanse
    - Star Trek (TOS, maybe NG, nothing else)
    - Orphan Black

  160. Plan9 from Outer Space! by schweini · · Score: 1

    No love for the classic and important "Plan 9 From Outer Space"???

  161. You missed the point of the movie. by denzacar · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's an "in-universe" propaganda movie to get people jacked up for war and boost recruitment numbers.
    Think "Triumph of the Will" meeting "Top Gun".

    Except it's Verhoeven behind the camera. And when he satirizes something he dials it up to 11.
    And then he breaks off the dial and replaces it with a "MORE!!!" button, which he then beats with a hammer until there's nothing left to indicate that it's a satire.

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    1. Re:You missed the point of the movie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wooosh

    2. Re:You missed the point of the movie. by locater16 · · Score: 1

      "My god, they sucked his brains out." - Michael Ironside, in a perfect deadpan voice. Definitely my favorite satire ever. Perfectly skewers jingoistic nutjobs.

    3. Re:You missed the point of the movie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad so many people hated it. Fuck Verhoeven.

    4. Re:You missed the point of the movie. by denzacar · · Score: 1

      That's actually one of, if not THE, Verhoeven's favorite scene. He just loves how Ironside says that line.

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      Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
  162. Zardoz by Jawnn · · Score: 1

    Because nobody else has mentioned it. And besides, I usually resort to "top five" because no one film in a given genre really captures it all. So, in no particular order...
    2001 A Space Odyssey
    Forbidden Planet
    Aliens
    Silent Running
    Avatar

  163. Wasp Woman (1959) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasp Woman is a great movie.

  164. Solaris by lfp98 · · Score: 2

    The 1972 Russian version, is the only thing that comes immediately to mind.

    1. Re:Solaris by phorm · · Score: 1

      It must be better than the modern/english one. Maybe that one gets better over time but honestly I tried to watch it with my wife and it was boring *me* to tears, so I quite partway.

    2. Re:Solaris by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

      You'd probably feel the original is just as boring, you could try Seksmisja? Though it has nothing to do with Solyaris.

    3. Re:Solaris by phorm · · Score: 1

      I'm a pretty big sci-fi buff, so maybe I was just having a bad day. My wife isn't much into sci-fi though so it probably would have put her to sleep had I not changed to a different programme.

    4. Re:Solaris by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

      It's not what you'd call an action movie (definitely more of the hard side of sci-fi), so just figured I'd mention (the original that is, haven't seen the remake).

  165. Brazil by barakn · · Score: 1

    Brazil. Its commentary on bureaucracy, censorship, government spying on its own citizens, and the dangers of plastic surgery is still relevant today.

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    1. Re:Brazil by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      The whole faceless terrorism angle is very relevant today.

  166. La Jetée by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    Chris Marker's 1962 film is my perfect science fiction movie.

    If you ever get the chance, watch it in the original French, with subtitles. The dubbed English version is not nearly as good. For some reason, since I first saw it when I was in the Film School at the School of the Art Institute back when Jimmy Carter was president, every frame has stuck with me.

    It has influenced directors ever since.

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    1. Re:La Jetée by capn_nemo · · Score: 1

      I would rate this not only one of the best sci-fi movies of all time, but simply one of the best pieces of cinema you can see. And yes, the French vocal track, even if you don't like subtitles, is far superior. It is haunting, it is stunning, and it defies all expectations, and rewards every watching. On a personal note, it was a great way to start my annual christmas sci-fi / action christmas extravaganza!

    2. Re:La Jetée by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, an amazing short film.

    3. Re:La Jetée by zuki · · Score: 1

      I was lucky enough to see the original version while still in school in 1970, and while it's difficult for me to pick a favorite among so many great ones, I do find it interesting that you've expressed how profound this particular movie's imagery was and has remained ever since. I clearly remembered many of its simple b&w imagery decades after having only watched it once, and I am not sure that anything else has quite had the same effect on me.

      Also very striking is that the entire thing was probably produced for around what it cost for the crew to take a coffee break during the shooting of a typical Hollywood movie.

    4. Re:La Jetée by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a massive faggot.

    5. Re:La Jetée by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      12 Monkeys was a respectable homage and one of my favorite sci fi films

    6. Re:La Jetée by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess this is where 12 Monkeys came from.

  167. Alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But using the original script, where Ripley dies at the end and the alien sets a course for earth...

    1. Re:Alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't the original script's ending, that was Ridley's cheesy "Twilight Zone" twist ending. Thank God he didn't prevail.

      If you're interested, script-o-rama.com has early draft and shooting scripts of Alien.

  168. Star Trek TMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Star Trek The Motion Picture is one of the finest SciFi films ever made. Much Better than the Star Wars films of the period.

    1. Re:Star Trek TMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a trekkie, I would classify that film as 'boring'

  169. 12 Monkeys, Eleven Minutes Ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The movie "12 Monkeys" (not the unwatchable TV show) was great. Very suspenseful!

    And for fun time travel movies, you can't top "Eleven Minutes Ago," a romance where the time traveller from the future finds himself somewhere where everyone knows his name :-)

    1. Re:12 Monkeys, Eleven Minutes Ago by netsavior · · Score: 1

      Eleven minutes ago was a nice little light, indie timetravel movie. It was like the anti-thesis of Primer.

  170. List by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    I'd love to list only relatively unknown ones: K-PAX, Coherence, Primer, OXV: The Manual, Los cronocrÃmenes, Twelve Monkeys, Source Code, The Butterfly Effect, Moon, Europa Report, Perfect Sense, Franklyn, The Signal, The Machine, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

    1. Re:List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice!
      I really liked frequencies (OXV: the manual); well done movie with some interesting philosophical themes.
      The final scene in Europa Report still gives me goosebumps when I think about it. Such a powerful expression of the desire to know.
      Primer was a real head trip. Loved the raw take on two guys building / inventing stuff (I work at a small startup).
      Source Code was wonderful. I loved the feeling of epiphany at the end as I began to figure out what was going on.

      I'll have to look up some of the other ones you mentioned; thanks for the list.

      FWIW, there is also a podcast called "The Message" that I enjoyed tremendously. If you're willing to take a jump into a different medium, it's worth it.
      http://themessagepodcast.com/
      (click the three bars in the top left corner, then episodes to listen without itunes)

      Limetown is another well-done scifi podcast of a similar length:
      http://www.limetownstories.com/

  171. A Cautionary Tale by Immerial · · Score: 2

    I watched Gattaca recently with my daughter. Only to find news articles the next day about the limited approval to use DNA editing on embryos in the U.S. to prevent diseases (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/us-panel-gives-yellow-light-human-embryo-editing). That combine with the recent advances of CISPR... makes this movie a very real possibility. I think it should be required watching for any legislators working on any genetic editing laws.

    1. Re:A Cautionary Tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah because what we really need is legislation derived from a work of fiction. Aside from the parallels from atrocities in the name of $DEITY throughout time, consider that a fictional story can be written any way you want. If the author wanted it, Gattaca could have been a wonderful story about the evolution of the human spirit or some bullshit. If politicians took that as the lesson then they'd be gung ho about genetic interventions. If you want to make a case for not doing something then make the case by arguing rational facts not pointing to a work of fiction designed to sell movie tickets.

  172. Favorite? by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

    "Favorite" is such a loaded word, and conditional on mood. I think any of these could be my "favorite":

    Forbidden Planet Great concepts and cinematography. Huge sense of wonder. A Clockwork Orange I absolutely adore the slang and Malcolm McDowell's performance. Plus Kubrick. Star Wars Came out in my formative years. What can I say? Aliens Saw it at a midnight showing. Had to check the backseat of my car before I got in. The 5th Element A better Heavy Metal movie than Heavy Metal. Plus Gary Oldman. The Martian Science FTW!

    (Geez, Slashdot, how can you screw up definition list formatting so badly?)

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    I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  173. Cherry 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An existential action/adventure flick that asks the big questions like "what does it mean to be human?" and "what exactly, is love?". Bonus points this year for it taking place in the distant future of 2017. Plus three wheeled cars!

    1. Re:Cherry 2000 by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      God.. i loved this move :) The Seka inspired hairdo was nice ...

      Oh shit.. remember Tank girl..

  174. The Black Hole by normanjd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I never did understand why Live Action Disney movies of the past never did well... I really loved The Black Hole... I think I even had a Lunch Box... Other good ones: The Absent-Minded Professor Tron And for a more modern favorite (but not Disney): Stargate

    1. Re:The Black Hole by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      The Black Hole was pretty cool.. the ending was a bit trippy..

  175. Too Many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
    Solaris (1976)
    The Man Who Fell To Earth (1976)
    Alien (1979)
    Time Bandits (1981)
    Blade Runner (1982)
    From Beyond (1986)
    They Live (1988)
    The Matrix (1999)
    Frank Herbert's Dune, Director's Cut (2002)
    They're Made Out of Meat (2005)
    A Scanner Darkly (2006)

    The first I initially experienced while tripping my ass off when I was 24. TMOoM is perhaps the greatest short film ever made (on this planet).

  176. what's wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thx 1138

  177. Re:Still the best, compare This Island Earth by shoor · · Score: 1

    I saw Forbidden Planet in its original run in a movie theater. I must've been about 10 or 11 at the time. It was the last movie to give me nightmares. I recognized immediately the voice of Robbie the Robot as belonging to the same guy who played Michael Anthony on a TV show of the time called The Millionaire. Even at that age I recognized the cheesy Hollywood style 'romance' that seemed to be mandatory. But I also appreciated that there were some serious, intellectual, aspects to the movie.

    A year or two earlier I had seen This Island Earth which was maybe a tad over my head at the time. Not sure now how much I remember from that first viewing and how much from later on. I really liked how the aliens used the scientist-hero's own curiosity to lure him into their clutches. It was more deliberately action-adventure than Forbidden Planet but it did have some intellectual aspects. The aliens were more complex and morally ambiguous than the usual fare, and it had high production values for the special effects. Also, the obligatory romance was better done than in Forbidden Planet.

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  178. THX 1138, George Lucas' last creative film by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    "If you feel you are not properly sedated, call 348-844 immediately. Failure to do so may result in prosecution for criminal drug evasion."

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  179. Naah... That's not what Star Wars is. by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Star Wars is of course Cowboys and Indians in space for twelve year olds.

    It's "Applied Buddhism for Beginners" played out over a backdrop of a WW2 in space.

    That's why prequels and the modern spin-offs suck.
    They forgot the whole "'60s just ended, '70s are ending, millennium is just around a corner, there's nothing left to believe in - we need a space-age religion before the world ends" zeitgeist bit.
    Wachowskis tapped into some of that with Matrix.
    Thus Jediism and Matrixism but no Star Trek religion.

    In both cases authors moved away from that feeling of "getting the world" and instead started regurgitating the tail of their "samsara" after they've already came out with their "nirvana for the masses" solution.
    I.e. They went about the wrong things in the wrong way.

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  180. Lifeforce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A gourgeous and naked space Vampire girl. 'Nuf sair.

  181. Cloud Atlas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably the most overlooked, and IMHO one of the best, is Cloud Atlas. The Wachowskis best (unless the Netflix Sense8 series qualifies as science fiction), considerably better than The Matrix.

    Cloud Atlas is as unconventional a movie as Prolog is an unconventional programming language. Both the movie and the language rely on recursion -- you don't really understand what it's telling you until you get to the end, then the entire thing makes sense all at once. Programmers should really get Cloud Atlas.

    People didn't like the movie because it's not told in a linear time narrative. It's much more like Momento than it is The Matrix. But the /. crowd should like it. At least this crowd is intelligent enough to "get it" if they are willing to sit and watch the movie unfold without insisting that it spoon feed them the story.

    1. Re:Cloud Atlas by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

      cloud atlas meh.. sense8 more meh..

      the whole transitioning thing the wachowskis are/were going through i felt it muddled the overall narrative of the movies and pushed a agenda i could care less about..

  182. Tron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Tron (the original) is why I'm a programmer. I wanted to be like Flynn and Alan writing programs like Tron, the solar sail simulation, and the light cycles.

    While I don't write programs that are that cool, my job is my hobby and I love the programming work that I do.

  183. So many to list but here are a "few" by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

    There are so many but a couple come to mind when I saw the post..

    Silent Running

    Alien

    Blade Runner (voiceover version)

    Logans Run

    The Matrix

    The 5th Element

    John Carpenters The Thing

    12 Monkeys

    The Black Hole..

    Id put Blade Runner up towards the top with silent running in second place.. but a mixture of the others..

    Discuss at will.. :)

  184. Most memorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of good sci fi movies, but if I had to pick movies that I'll watch over and over... Too many, really:

    Movies (in no particular order):
    Star Trek II, Wrath of Kahn
    The Matrix
    Serenity
    Superman I and II (do those count as "sci fi"?)
    Disneys the Black Hole (cheesy but I can watch it over and over)
    Tron
    Enemy Mine
    The original black and white "The Thing from another planet"
    The Day the Earth Stood Still (original black and white)
    The Final Countdown (such an underappreciated movie)
    Aliens (Alien also, but I think the second was more re-watchable)
    Planet of the Apes (original w Charleton Heston)
    The Time Machine (original from the 60's)
    Back to the Future
    Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
    ET
    Enemy Mine
    They Live
    Predator
    Escape from New York
    Jurassic Park
    Galaxy Quest
    Guardians of the Galaxy
    The list goes on...

    Honorable Mention:
    Darkstar
    Anything on MST3K, if I'm in the right mood.
    Ice Pirates

    TV Series:
    Star Trek, TOS, of course
    FireFly
    Brisco County Jr (counts as a sci fi western)
    Battlestar Galactica (original - yes, the new was good and all, but the original was a classic).
    Space: Above and Beyond (a bit rough at times, but had potential)

    Honorable mention
    Quark (seeing in now as an adult, terrible, but before it was canceled, I was a kid and loved it)

    1. Re:Most memorable by Megane · · Score: 1

      I loved Quark as a kid, too. And its disco-theremin theme song was awesome too.

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  185. BladeRunner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    best scifi ever!

  186. Spaceballs by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    The best.

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  187. I need something .... Stronger... by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

    so many samples from this movie :) But unkle's lifting of those samples i really liked..

  188. List (in no particular order) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Primer
    Imposter
    Dark City
    Cube
    Contact
    Strange Days
    Snowpiercer
    The Lathe of Heaven
    Galaxy Quest
    The Host
    (and so many more)

  189. No Love for Explorers? by tralfaz2001 · · Score: 1

    Lots of good picks, but I always liked this little gem. Some of my favorite alien designs. I always wanted a Wak costume for Halloween, or just relaxing around the house.

  190. Brainstorm by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

    complete forgot about brainstorm.. great movie about the dangers of VR..

  191. You almost got me! by honestmonkey · · Score: 1

    I was going to answer, but became suspicious because I'd already answered the polls: What was you mother's maiden name? and What was your first pet? Nice try, scammer! I'm not going to fall for it this time. Oh, and my favorite sci-fi movie was 2001 A Space Odyssey.

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    Everything you know is wrong, Just forget the words and sing along.
  192. Meat Popsicle .. by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

    I am ;)

  193. Umm... no. by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Neo doesn't do anything supernatural in the real world.

    He's an evolutionary mutation which adapted to using its implants without direct, wired, connection.
    Him interacting with machines plugged into the Matrix is no more supernatural than a laptop, which previously had to be connected to the internet through its RJ45, "supernaturally" connecting through its Wi-Fi connection after an update and a reboot.

    He doesn't do anything Matrixy in the real world.
    He just discovers that he can "wiggle the ears" of all that hardware he was grown with.
    He grows into a fully fledged man-machine hybrid.

    That's why he can't magically fix the ship or save Trinity like he could in the simulation.
    He doesn't have a control over reality. Just a connection to the Matrix without being plugged in or boosted with a radio transmitter from a ship.

    As for control... meh... Wachowskis were piling it up so high and wide they lost track by the second half of the first movie.
    By the end of it it's about freedom. Then it's about choice. Then it's about peace and ending the war.
    But it's also about destiny and believing and pseudo-philosophical bullshit like arguing about semantics of the word "love"...
    And about that magical pussy-chain Link has. You know when he kisses it he's thinking "I can't die. I haven't had me enough of pussy yet."

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  194. 2001: A Space Odyssey by jonwil · · Score: 1

    Its a joint creation of one of the best SF authors of all time (Arthur C Clarke) and one of the best filmmakers of all time (Stanley Kubrick). Lets hope this is one film Hollywood NEVER does a reboot/remake/redo of...

    That said, there are a few Cyberpunk films that come close to topping my list (Johnny Mnemonic for one, also the TRON films) and if they ever make a good film based on the Neuromancer book, its going to be hard to pick between that an 2001...)

  195. Tarkovsky: Solyaris by tigersha · · Score: 2

    Solaris. NOT the Clooney/McElhone version, the Soviet version, made back in 72 or so

    Also on the list is Stalker, also by Tarkovsky. But calling that SciFi is borderline. The first half hour at least is absolutely stunning. Cate Blanchett once said every frame of that movie is burned into her retina.

    And then there is always Blade Runner, The Matrix, Alien and The Martian.

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    1. Re:Tarkovsky: Solyaris by joboss · · Score: 1

      My favorite of his was Kin Dza Dza. I can't for the life of me remember why or any part of the movie though.

    2. Re:Tarkovsky: Solyaris by ChoGGi · · Score: 2

      Shame it took this far down to find mention of Kin-dza-dza :(

    3. Re:Tarkovsky: Solyaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Stalker
      More like Talker. After hearing how great it was multiple times, I watched it. What a boring letdown.

  196. Dune: Dessert Planet by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    The original Kyle McLachlan version.

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  197. MDK / Oh noes the Shells.. by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

    a few pop culture references came from that movie..

    the shells painted some imagery of the first shell for scraping of some sort..

    second, scraping again..

    third maybe tidying up your grill?

    MDK i think got their inspiration from this movie as well ;D

  198. Close Encounters of the Third Kind by monkeyman.kix · · Score: 1

    This is my all time favourite.

  199. Stalker(1979) by foolishness · · Score: 1

    Stalker is a sci-fi masterpiece with zero special effects, Directed by Andrei Tarkovsky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Also I really enjoy the film Dune but the die hard fans of the book series put it down often and even the director of the film disowned it as well.

  200. space herpes ;) by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

    Loved Ice Pirates ;D

  201. The Black Hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maximilian, the time has come to liquidate our guests.

  202. Contact, Interstellar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'nuff said.

  203. Wasp Woman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasp Woman (1959) is a Roger Corman film. Great plot.

  204. Contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know why Contact resonated with me so deeply, but I consider it to be one of the best films I've seen. Perhaps it's because of all the science fiction I have seen, this is the one that I most wish were true.

    After that, I'd say The Fountain. I'm not totally convinced that it's science fiction, but the beauty of the film is that its genre is hidden within your interpretation of the story itself.

  205. Two different movies by Damouze · · Score: 1

    Best sci-fi movie: Blade Runner
    Most beautiful movie: 2001: A Space Oddysey.

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  206. E.T.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First movie I ever saw...solid good story...my 5 yr old Son's school is screening it this weekend and I'm excited to watch it with him!

  207. Memorable for various reasons by mcouper · · Score: 1

    Logan's Run
    Dark Crystal
    Dark City

  208. The Man From Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Man from Earth

    One of the most thought provoking in interesting movies.

  209. ET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last entry got swapped for "?" for some reason.
    Super excited to watch with my son.

  210. 1970s Battlestar Galactica by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    not a fav but I dreamed how great it would be to have all that Textronix test equipment.

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  211. The Hidden by Dagger77 · · Score: 1

    It's as good as 'Alien.' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...

  212. La Jetée by Simonetta · · Score: 2

    The best science fiction movie of all time is a short (half-hour) black/white French film called "La Jetée" [translates as the airport's observation deck]. It is in the format of scanned photos with narration, like Ken Burns' PBS documentaries.

        A child sees a man crumble and die while visiting Paris Orly airport's observation deck in 1962. Shortly after there is total nuclear war. Because he is obsessed with this image of a man's death, he is selected to be a guinea pig in an experiment to send him time traveling into the future in order to get an energy source to restart civilization. He succeeds in moving in time, but always ends up in the pre-war era. There, he meets a beautiful woman and falls in love.

        It doesn't sound like much, but it is a true masterpiece. MIT even published a coffee-table book detailing every scene.

        It is super low-budget. One scene that shows the Arc of Triumph in Paris with a huge chunk blown out of it actually has a pin hole from a thumbtack displayed in it.

        David Bowie did a homage to it in video for a song from his Black Tie/White Noise album in the early 1990s.

        It is available on DVD from most big-city library systems.

  213. Ghost in the Shell by nevermore94 · · Score: 1

    OK, I am probably going to get flamed for this, but I really enjoyed the new Ghost in the Shell live action movie. Could it have been a better remake of the original anime? Yes. Could it have had better dialogue and acting? Yes. Was it dumbed down for the masses? Yes. Hollywood whitewashing? Blek. But, all in all, despite being a long time fan of the original anime movie, I really enjoyed this movie. My anime hating wife even enjoyed it. The special effects were excellent, the depiction of the future cityscapes were incredible. The plot, although quite different from the animes was alright, if a bit predictable. Some of the homages to the original movie such as the thermoptic camouflage fight scenes and the fight with the spidertank gave me chills. I think just taking it as a stand alone sc-fi movie it deserves a lot more credit than it is getting because of all of the other controversy being dragged along with it.

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    1. Re:Ghost in the Shell by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      I liked Ghost but if you're talking Sci Fi anime, then Akira is the daddy.

  214. It's my fav of all his novels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thorby Baslim & his journey after being "renshawed" (says it all) from 'rags to riches' breaking slavery on SiSu (my blood is in the steel, & the steel is in my blood (after all firecontrolman - you waste torpedos, it's 'only' grandmother's blood)).

    * Hell of a great book & tale...

    APK

    P.S.=> Rudbeck of RUDBECK galactic. (truly rags to riches from the slave hovels)... apk

  215. Favorites are hard by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Favorites are hard, it's kind of a silly question so let's give some love to something that a lot of you may not have seen: Dark Star. Things like this leap to mind for me because I saw them back in the days when all we had was analog broadcast with a few channels. They'd show stuff like this after midnight. That's also how I saw the original Planet of the Apes--with the volume down low, hoping my parents wouldn't wake up and send me to bed.

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  216. The Ice Pirates - because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not my favorite, but The Ice Pirates came along at a time when there wasn't a fire hose of sci-fi coming at you. As a kid, it was a cool drink of water while I was parched for another taste of Star Wars.

    Those of us who grew up in the 70's and 80's will fondly remember ET, Road Warrior, Alien(s), Star Trek and really anything else that had aliens, lasers, or spaceships. Even the Star Wars Christmas Special was freakin magic when you were 11 yo in 1980.

  217. Plan Nine From Outer Space by Sqreater · · Score: 1

    Without a doubt the best SciFi film ever made. They should remake it though, give it the benefit of the subsequent advances in video graphics.

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  218. Umm... by hackel · · Score: 1

    > every month, we have a couple of movies that bend the rules of science to explore possibilities that sometimes make us seriously consider if things we see on the big screen could actually be true

    Are we living on the same planet? I'm here. On Earth.

  219. How about this poll instead... by Sqreater · · Score: 1

    What SiFi movie to you consider most likely to come true in the future?

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  220. Mine is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...The Bible. It has everything: a megalomaniac creator in outer space, life after death, a talking snake, world catastrophe, a true world war...it has everything fantastic!

    1. Re:Mine is... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry, but no. I have NEVER EVER read a worse book.

      What do you have? A completely unlikable protagonist, a Mary-Sue character if there ever was one, worse than in any Star Trek fanfic. Knows everything, can do everything, and every other important figure wants to be his friend and suck up to him. And being immortal he doesn't even have the decency to die at the end and sacrifice himself for everyone else, which is about the only redeeming feature those Mary-Sues have.

      Plus, there is zero character development. None. At the start, when he acts all childish, kicks out the nudists for not conforming to his whims and flushing everything when he notices he made mistakes, you'd think that in the end he realizes that this is morally wrong and that one shouldn't do that, you'd expect some sort of catharsis, some insight, some atonement and eventual redemption so he would in the end emerge as a better god... but no. Nope. In the sequel he sends his son down (who is a far more likable character) and has him tortured and killed because ... reasons.

      Sorry, but that book just sucks.

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    2. Re:Mine is... by Revek · · Score: 1

      To many different versions. All versions disagree with one another. Most people around though agree that the king james opinion of the bible is the best one.

    3. Re:Mine is... by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      You read the wrong testament. NT is just the story of a sales campaign. OT is a great read, great stories, great characters. I know the christians are only referring to the NT when they say the bible, but the OT is the page turner.

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      Nullius in verba
    4. Re: Mine is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the third book, it's a trilogy, teh BoM!

    5. Re:Mine is... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the OT has a few stories that start out great, until the Mary Sue Deus ex Machina ruins it.

      That book would so gain if that character was left out. Like ... Imagine Star Trek without Wesley Crusher.

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  221. Re:To avoid normal responses: Nightwatch and Daywa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Baywatch!

  222. IRON SKY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    !!!!!!! Moon Nazis, nuff said.

    1. Re:IRON SKY by WeBMartians · · Score: 1

      I'd give these clowns a point just because it was their first real attempt at making a movie (please ignore "Star Wreck"), they did it on a budget (IndieGoGo and KickStarter), and it was at the very least funny ("one last .... ... trick"). The scene when only Finland is caught having a non-weaponized space station in the demilitarized zone (space) is quite funny, too.

  223. 12 Monkeys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    12 Monkeys (the Terry Gilliam movie, not the TV series.) Brilliant movie. One of the few time travel films that avoids the usual cheats and contradictions by saying that the past cannot be changed. Bruce Willis and Madeleine Stowe are at their best. Maybe Gilliam's best film, his ornate style here is in service of a coherent story.

  224. Dark star by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dark humor, not-so-dark hardcore SF... Haven't seen it on the posts here.

  225. Idiocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idiocracy. It is coming true.

    If pressed, for the most entertaining scifi ... there are just a few that I stop and watch if they are playing.
    * Galaxy Quest
    * Chronicles of Riddick
    * The 5th Element
    * Serenity
    Just too much eye candy in those movies. I can't help it.

    For "most accurate" scifi, I'd have to say The Europa Report. Having worked in manned spaceflight, that really is the way it would happen ... until the landing. After that is all movie.

    1. Re:Idiocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Idiocracy. It is coming true.

      I remember seeing that movie and thinking 500 years is WAY too long for Joe to have been in hibernation...

      More like 30 years, 50 tops!

      Maybe they were going for the Buck Rogers angle, or thought they needed more time for evolution to work. Cultural evolution moves a LOT quicker than the biological kind.

  226. Barbarella by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Need to say anything ?

    1. Re: Barbarella by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm quite Fonda that.

  227. ForbIDden Planet by cybersquid · · Score: 1

    So much goodness, so many interesting ideas. Engineers tearing apart star-drives to cobble together a more powerful transmitter. Remnants of lost alien civilizations. Robots. I love this movie.

  228. AGREED, 110%... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another 'great minds think alike' from you & this guy too https://entertainment.slashdot... & "Luck IS the residue of design" & "this job is like any other" (not quite lol)... but "YOU CAN DO THIS!"

    APK

    P.S.=> Took me away from my FORMER #1 fav. Sci-Fi film starring Ethan Hawke also in GATTACA https://entertainment.slashdot... (a VERY CLOSE 2nd here now though still (both great))... apk

  229. They Live by Dagger77 · · Score: 1

    "You know, you look like your head fell in the cheese dip back in 1957."

  230. The Man in the White Suit by darthlurker · · Score: 1

    Chemist invents an indestructible fiber, "a long-chain molecule of infinite length with optimal inter-chain attractions" in a textile mill. Also a comedy of the consequences of innovation.

  231. It! The Terror from Beyond Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A 1958 B&W film that was a forerunner to "Alien". Spooky even today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It!_The_Terror_from_Beyond_Space

  232. The Island (2005) with Ewan McGregor by kyubre · · Score: 2

    A thought provoking and well done trump through a serious possibility. Adding it to the list here as I find favor with nearly all the suggestions but found this one mysteriously missing.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt03...

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  233. missing some greats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like the mid 1980's were good for my version of sci-fi.

    The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086856/?ref_=nv_sr_2)
    Real Genius (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089886/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    Explorers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089114/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    Flight of the Navigator (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091059/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
    Space 1999 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072564/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
    Buck Rogers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078579/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    Flash Gordon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080745/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    The final countdown (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    The Philadelphia experiment (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/?ref_=nv_sr_4)
    My science project (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089652/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    Wierd science (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090305/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    Wargames with Broderick (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
    The last starfighter (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

  234. Check out tv! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares? Movies? I don't have for that! Look at what has slipped by the Censors (aka Hollywood Execs) that keep great scifi off the small screen.... The Expanse,12 Monkeys (finally a tv show much better than the movie),Humans,Colony, and Westworld. I am sure I missed a few. It is nice to finally have a plethora of real scifi to choose from.

  235. Demolition Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Sci-Fi is more of a backdrop, but I've always enjoyed Demolition Man and its story of using technology to control and shape human behavior to the point where it is the villain who states that "you can't take away people's right to be assholes".

  236. The Original "War of the Worlds" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way ahead of its time.
    Even the special effects hold up pretty well for a movie made in 1953.

  237. Why "The Matrix"? by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    There was definitely some cool stuff in there. I'm just surprised that it makes so many short lists of best/favorite sci-fi films.

    A sinister intelligence has enslaved humanity in an almost completely convincing virtual reality ... cool concept so far ... and the protagonists fight back by using karate moves? A silly plot device which ruined an otherwise promising story.

    Almost all sci-fi films require a temporary suspension of certain disbeliefs, but the ridiculously contrived martial arts nonsense in The Matrix just killed it for me.

    1. Re:Why "The Matrix"? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Then you did not seek deep enough.
      Neo et all escape the matrix.
      Then they suddenly have super powers, get hunted by multiple copies of Agent Smith ... etc. pe. pe.
      Obviously: they ares till in the Matrix.

      Karate moves and other things are metaphorical, and should give you a clue: they are still in the Matrix.

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    2. Re:Why "The Matrix"? by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      Thanks for offering your perspective. I'm genuinely curious as to why it's so popular.

      Yes, I know that they escaped.

      "Karate moves and other things are metaphorical, and should give you a clue: they are still in the Matrix."

      Oh, I clearly understand that they're still in the Matrix when they're doing their karate moves. That's the part that ruins it for me. Why can't the creatures who created this artificial reality conjure up an omnipotent Agent Smith? A virtual reality version of god rather than an Nth degree black belt in a suit? If you can see those fight scenes metaphorically, I suppose it works. Maybe I'll watch it again while trying to maintain that perspective and look for clues that this was the intent. I was so turned off by it that I might have missed some things. I saw it as a cheap plot device thrown in as an excuse to add some easily choreographed action scenes which seemed totally out of context.

  238. If you speak Russian by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    The most inventive multilingual wordplay script ever for Russian speakers would be A Clockwork Orange.

  239. Now for another survey by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Who has nominations for the best science fiction film that was never made?

    1. Re:Now for another survey by zuki · · Score: 1

      Alexander Jodorowski's "Dune" certainly one of the contenders for this particular prize, he had it all plotted out and many insiders acknowledge that after seeing the script submitted to (and rejected by) most major Hollywood studios, somehow the ideas contained therein permeated their way into many other projects that came slightly later, especially the same exact design team he had picked going on to work on "Alien".

      Watch the excellent award-winning documentary Jodorowski's Dune that explains this in great detail.

  240. A Few of the Greats by nealric · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't say the following are necessarily the best for eating popcorn, but they are the ones that I think really show how the genre can be great:

    2001 (enough said)
    Ghost in the Shell (the anime version)
    Solaris (Tarkovsky version)
    Metropolis

    Honorable mentions:
    Primer
    Gattaca
    Her
    Moon
    San Junipero (Short from the series "Black Mirror")

    1. Re:A Few of the Greats by Megane · · Score: 1

      Her

      I liked it better when it was called Electric Dreams.

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    2. Re:A Few of the Greats by nealric · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough, Spike Jonze claims not to have seen Electric Dreams before making Her.

  241. Shells? Where we're going we don't need shells... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    There's an app for that.
    To be fair, it's not that there are no shells in the future.
    It's closer to three shells being not nearly enough for an ass of the future. Poopstagram is the next big thing... you'll see.

    As for the movie... depends who you ask.
    I have no idea why would anyone ask Stallone, being that his character explicitly doesn't know how to use them, but people did ask. The answer was... what could have been expected.

    Bullock showed a bit more of intuitive understanding and imagination.

    But if you ask the guy who wrote it... it's all just bullshit.

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  242. Barbarella by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Barbarella

  243. Iron Sky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Director's Cut!!

  244. Tron by Nyder · · Score: 1

    Tron

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  245. Quality family movie sci-fi by werepants · · Score: 1

    There are some really excellent movies by Pixar and Disney that explore fairly complex social themes and future technology development that absolutely deserve a place here, even if they are technically kid's movies:

    WALL-E - This movie has surprising depth considering several major sequences have no dialogue whatsoever. Explores themes of advanced automation, sustained survival in space, and extrapolates the impact of current trends on human society (consumerism, anti-intellectualism, obesity, apathy). Several great references to sci-fi classics in here as well.

    Big Hero 6 - A Disney movie that opens with an illegal underground robot battle and offers a more accurate portrayal of hobbyist and student garage engineering than most big-budget sci-fi flicks I've seen. If you pay attention, you'll notice McMaster-Carr catalogs and other little details that make any nerd feel at home.

  246. My two cents by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    Movies:

    The Abyss
    2010
    5th Element
    Galaxy Quest
    Real Genius
    Bladerunner
    Enemy Mine
    War Games
    Dune (Fight me!)
    Tron Legacy (Fight me some more!)
    Terminator 2
    Nausicaa
    Castle in the Sky
    Iron Giant
    Contact
    The Martian

    TV Shows:

    The Expanse
    Babylon 5
    Firefly

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  247. Logan's Run by valley · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Released right before Star Wars upped the game as far as special effects ... great concept, wild sets, including an ice cave patrolled by an insane robot, a domed utopian/dystopian city, and Washington DC covered in vines... wonderful stuff.

  248. The day the Earth Stood Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IMHO, the best ever.

  249. Event Horizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, its special effects aren't the best in the world, but it's a top notch film

    1. Re:Event Horizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved it. Couldn't help but think the plot was inspired by Doom (the late 1993 video game) and so it serves as my official "Doom movie" of sorts. Hollywood man-made black holes are fun too.

  250. MST3K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just kidding - it is even worse than P9fOS.

  251. AI: Artificial Intelligence by mfnickster · · Score: 1

    Not my favorite, but I thought it deserved a mention as it had some really good ideas and themes, just poorly plotted.

    I especially enjoyed Jude Law's performance, that alone is worth watching the film for.

    I was initially disappointed with the ending, but after a couple more viewings I think I understood a little better what Kubrick was trying to do. A lot of people reacted to the ending poorly because they didn't get the irony of the future robots (not aliens) recreating a human to serve a robot that wants to be loved.

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  252. Thor Ragnarok? by keith_nt4 · · Score: 1

    Technically it may not be "science fiction" and technically it "hasn't been released yet". Just loop that 2 minute preview for two hours and take my $12. I won't complain.

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    "UNIX is very simple, it just needs a genius to understand its simplicity." -Dennis Ritchie
  253. Oblivion! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, Oblivion.

  254. Silent Running by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    forerunner to many future realities.

  255. Lifeforce by littlewink · · Score: 1

    "LifeForce" , thanks to the special effect of Mathilda May naked as a jaybird. Mathilda, it turns out, is a space vampire who immediately engages in a form of intercourse of the most damaging kind with one of her captors!

    Also the space vampire ship is one of the least referenced, yet one of the most intriguing spaceship designs I've ever seen.

  256. Lost in space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After a good work of dubbing in my language, the series gained somewhat in Dr. Smith and the Robot expressions.

    The plots were deep like in Star Trek -- actually people were deeper in the 60's, possibly a consequence of rediscovering virtues after the gruesome war which ended in '45.

    It was an era of significant space advancements and imagination was at full-force. I cannot watch any modern catastrophe or horror alien picture without thinking it is a waste of money (and specially of my time).

    Back there were meaningful subtleties like an evil character learning that, surprisingly, he had principles.

    The remake wasn't up to par with the original series, unfortunately.

    Star Trek (the original series) was nice, too... :-P

  257. Aliens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aliens with Bill Paxton, space marines, power suit and nukes.

  258. Yes - It truly is, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: "The fragments of matter you leave behind we can only repair so much" & "Parameters set by the bureau are there for a reason: Our protection" - Mr. Robertson (who I swear is also "Tech Support" from another Sci-Fi fav. of mine in "Vanilla Sky").

    * I love this genre for 'personal reasons' & yes, that it's fascinating - especially when "A 100 horrible crimes didn't go as planned because of him (because of the work you've done)..." - seems you do too (good taste).

    (I will keep the ones you stated in mind also then assuming they too, are about "temporal displacement" - LOVE THIS GENRE!)

    Only you will "get this" OR anyone else that's seen it:

    F A I L E R R O R F A I L

    ("Time has a VERY different meaning to people like us - We were BORN into this job...")

    "It's NEVER too late to be who you MIGHT have been...

    APK

    P.S.=> Mind bender (VERY appropriate in this case, wouldn't you agree also?) - A price paid for being "an agent operating from the outside" - "SOME THINGS ARE INEVITABLE" & for them? Guaranteed insanity was one IF/WHEN the jump limit was exceeded... apk

  259. aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    rip bill paxton

  260. Top of my "Most likely to actually happen" list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As pointed out above, the development of CRISPR technology makes this possibly dystopian future less and less sci-fi by the day.

  261. Alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first one with Ridley Scott as the director.

  262. Genetic Engineering/Space Travel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imo, NEITHER is that far off (coin toss to see which occurs 1st & the horrible blunders made @ 1st imo): They've id'd markers for negative conditions in the DNA strand during RNA recominbation (taken a course in it, was great) so, how far off is actually PLAYING w/ it via say, retroviral therapy injections etc.? Not far I think. IF I say it, it's probably BEING done now.

    StarDrive?? We've got pumped laser drive, EM-Drive & better - & IF they use counter-rotating blackholes in magnetic containment bottles - warp drive/stargates & YES TIME DISPLACEMENT? MAY not be the far off either imo...after all, CERN is playing w/ "new particles" & yes, those too (call it a hunch as to the REAL why).

    Sorry for the VERY late reply: I had to EXCEED THE JUMP LIMIT /. places on us AC users (I always do, lol!).

    APK

    P.S.=> My fav. moment in GATTACA? The "Good Doctor" (truly good) - "Remind me to tell you about my son sometime" (he's not all that they promised) & "You're going to miss your flight Vincent" (Jerome TOmorrow)... apk

  263. Alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When this came out, it was scary as hell.

  264. Kin-dza-dza! by ChoGGi · · Score: 2

    The original from the 80s, not the remake.

  265. Toss up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alien / Aliens
    The Matrix
    Dredd
    2001/ 2010
    The Martian
    Independence Day
    Terminator 2

  266. 2001:A Space Odyssey by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    Maybe the all time best "space" sci-fi movie!

    Not just space, artificial intelligence and humanity's transcendence beyond its current state. Few movies have its scope so if it isn't the greatest film ever made it is certainly the most significant.

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  267. Frau Im Monde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

          Fritz Lang's "Frau Im Monde" is an amazing piece of science fiction from 1926. In it you will see.

    * The 10 sec countdown.
    * NASA's Vehicle Assembly Building.
    * Water damping of acoustic shock from engines.
    * NASA style public launch events.
    * The Ranger series of automatic space probes.
    * Apollo 8 "Earthrise" as a major event in the movie.
    * Pretty accurate orbital mechanics.
    * Eccentric whack jobs from the alt-space community.
    * Ladies on the Moon, what else needs to be said?

  268. Jules Verne story by rjdriver · · Score: 1

    The Time Machine. 1960 version

    1. Re:Jules Verne story by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      That is a beautiful movie, nice choice. The remake failed to recreate what made it so.

  269. Idiocracy by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

    The movie that totally nailed everything that is wrong with society.

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  270. Not yet mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Fly (1986 version). Surprised no one included this one.
    Thought the ending was a bit too comic book, but kinda liked
    the way they incorporated elements of Kafka.

    Also under-represented:
    Repo Man
    Donnie Darko
    Brazil
    They Live
    John Dies at the End

  271. Dune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    David better not let them remake it...

  272. A short list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree with John Carpenter's The Thing is my favorite. While the prequel tried to do homage to the original, the timing of the creature movements and attacks were off. So much of the terror was the natural slowness of the things transforming.

    Star Wars broke ground on so many levels.

    Honorable mention and my first true sci-fi movie interest: Silent Running

  273. My Soap Box and list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To quote poster verdatum above verbatim (am I witty or what?), "Gattaca followed the rules of what Science Fiction should be....
    "You've gotta get everyone to agree on what defines quality science fiction."
    In the past few years I discovered the written fiction of Hal Clement. Highly recommended. In many people's opinion, and probably verdatum, his work is what science fiction should be.
    Me, I enjoy his work for, well, I enjoy it. I understand the assumptions and 'rules of sci-fi story telling' beneath it all, and it works on that level. All the better, it works both as entertainment and as a rule following exercise. That is hard to pull off! But, although I like that version of story telling or (science) fiction, I also like other versions, other styles. If everyone "followed the rules of what Science Fiction should be...." I think we would be poorer for missing other possibilities.
    Getting off my soap box:
    Depending on my mood, my nominations (I could easily have 100) are:
    The Thing From Another World (1951)
    The repartee between the male and female lead, the wonderful scene where the men move to outline of the object buried in the ice and discover it's round, the scenes where The Thing appears behind a door or window and scares the sh.. out of you.
    War of the Worlds, both the 1950's version and the flawed but impressive version with Tom Cruise.
    The Fountain (2006)
    A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)
    Jude Law channeling Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly. Okay that isn't science fiction per se, but it was used to great effect to support the whole movie.
    ==
    I never saw the full Gattaca. 20-30 minutes into the movie the lights came on and Fire Department came in and evacuated the theater.

  274. Event Horizon by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Loved Event Horizon. Easily the best horror sci-fi movie next to Alien.

  275. The Forbin Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Got me started on AI.

  276. Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Other films may be deeper or more visionary, etc, but Aliens is the one I enjoy to watch more than all the others. Great, tense action with superb plot.

  277. Star Trek The Motion Picture (1979) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Star Trek The Motion Picture (1979)

    About a mystery, a threat, and an adventure.

  278. Gantz!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of them. The most recent Gantz:O just blew me away with the direction it went.
    Start from the beginning, worth it.

  279. has this been by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    been approved by
    DICE holding?

  280. Face that launched a 1000 starships by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dina Meyer, the Helen of Troy for the space age, and best advert for unisex showers ever. Thank you Starship Troopers! :-)

  281. Disney, but dark et terrifying : The Black Hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hole

    1979, guys. When Disney SF was with blood, enslaving, despair, battles, kills, ...

  282. BRAZIL! by EmBeeDee · · Score: 1

    Brazil. The greatest dystopia ever filmed. Also - that poster!

  283. Blade Runner by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2

    For me there is absolutely no contest. Blade Runner (director's cut or Final Cut, obviously) shows a world that is fleshed out, a world that feels real and realistic, where your natural reaction is "yeah, this is how the world could be in 50 years". It's not huge on special effects fanfare, technology exists naturally in the world and no big occasion is made of it. It feels natural and grounded.

    The Fifth Element is a close runner-up. It's just so big and colorful and goddamn French, like nothing else. It's a visual extravaganza and one hell of a ride.

    And I have to mention Dredd as well, because like Blade Runner, it just feels real.

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    1. Re:Blade Runner by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Ooh, and Terminator as well. The first one is low-budget sci-fi genius. The sequel is a high-budget action fest blowout. Shame they only made those two movies...

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    2. Re:Blade Runner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blade Runner takes place in 2019, two and a half years from now. I made a drive all the way up the coast last week and the world is, at least superficially, much the same that it was in 1982 when the movie was made.

      The one thing that I did notice and did not believe at the time would come true was the billboard sized tv ads. It's always the first thing I think of when I see them.

  284. Contact Anyone? by BSalita · · Score: 1

    Contact is the gold standard despite its Hollywood ending.

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  286. Network by locater16 · · Score: 2

    Now, I know, it's not science fiction.

    But my god if you wanted a movie that predicted the future perfectly that was it. Fox News, crazed personalities spinning "news" as entertainment, the fall of communism, right down to the how easily replaceable people in most industries are. There's even a bit where there's filmed terrorism for the sake of broadcast money. It was supposed to be satire, well guess what there's filmed "terrorism" for broadcast money going on all the time in the middle-east. Faked terrorist attacks filmed on high quality cameras and sold as real to the news networks who buy it all up, one wonders how long before ISIS or whatever the next one will be called will realize there's more money in monetizing their youtube terror youtube video and selling their attacks as news stories than there is in trying to hold oil wells.

  287. k-pax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272152/
    with a stellar Kevin Spacey

  288. Spaceballs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spaceballs :)

  289. Man from Earth by NoZart · · Score: 1

    It's not space and robots - sci-fi, but it made us contemplate and discuss the content for hours afterwards.

  290. What's Your Favorite Sci-Fi Movie? by Goondra · · Score: 1

    "When World Collide"

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  291. Sunshine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I loved Sunshine. The idea that people can be mesmorised and in awe of something that seems to be taken for granted to the point you are driven mad and make illogical choices to the detrement of mankind has massive undertones of religion ruins everything. The scene where Capa jumps from the ship to the bomb as a tiny spec between two massive structures is something that I've never experienced in any movie since, and not something that even the largest plasma can recreate. And the music, epic!

  292. Duh by joboss · · Score: 1

    Ideocracy

  293. What about the prequel and the reboot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What are your thoughts on the Torah (prequel) and the Koran (reboot)?

    1. Re:What about the prequel and the reboot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't read/see, but from what I heard, the fandom of the reboot is absolutely obnoxious.

    2. Re:What about the prequel and the reboot? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Still not done with them. I'm not big into reboots, usually they can't hold a candle to the original. And with prequels I'm fed up since Star Wars.

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    3. Re:What about the prequel and the reboot? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You should've been there when the original was en vogue, that fandom was about as obnoxious. Really trollish behaviour, these flamewars against those who didn't agree... not cool, not cool at all.

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  294. Ghost in the Shell by codebeast · · Score: 1

    The original anime, not that crappy thing that came out this year.

  295. Ghost in the Shell (1995) by palemantle · · Score: 2

    Not the recent silly Hollywood version but the original 1995 Mamoru Oshii anime:
    GitS

    The sequel is pretty darn good too as are the follow up series.

  296. Snowpiercer and Riddick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snowpiercer has hardly got a mention here. I'm not sure if it got much of a run in the US. It's a brilliant film worth watching. Based on a French comic book, produced by a South Korean director.

    Also, Riddick - brilliant film.

  297. Sunshine? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    No one mentioned Sunshine? I thought it was a great movie, until it turned into a slasher flick. The music was amazing.

  298. Star Wars by cloud.pt · · Score: 2

    Quality-wise, I have other Sci-fi-themed movies further up my all time "Movies top" (such as The Matrix, Alien, Total Recall or Blade Runner), but as pure a Sci-Fi flick and based on things I personally enjoy most from Sci-fi, I consider this one to be "most Sci-fi".

    It's true: 2001, Matrix, or even Blade Runner might have applied more relevant individual Sci-fi elements, less nonsensical and/or actually referencing stuff that might or even has actually become science (rather than stay fiction), but if you look at it from perspective, the best thing about Sci-fi is not predicting innovation or making applying nice uses to current tech, but creating a perplexing, stylish universe from plausible or even implausible science, past or present. And that's why Star Wars gets it: the lore is just immense and every bit of it applies scientific fiction with a style that is on a class of its own.

    In that same perspective, but on different grounds other than lore, I believe my second choice on such a list would definitely be Nolan's Interstellar. No other movie captures an out-of-this-world feeling like Interstellar, and that's special. Sci-fi special.

  299. The Ten Commandments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049833/

  300. Alien - for the shock value by techfilz · · Score: 1

    Alien. The first one. Watched it on VHS - bolted out of my seat and fell on the ground when alien junior burst through the guys chest.

  301. Phase IV 1974 by CygnusXII · · Score: 2

    By far the most interesting movie. It's stuck in my brain all my life.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  302. 12 monkeys : time travel done right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My favorite movie by far is 12 monkeys (the one with Bruce Willis of course, not the TV show even if it's not bad). Time travel has never been so perfectly used, and in fact, it's quite always badly used.

    Some other time-travel movies that are good, or very good :
    - Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel (a bloody good British movie !)
    - Back to the Future (even if it's time travel done bad, it so much fun :) )
    - the first and second Terminator movies (same here, time travel done bad, but movie done right)

    1. Re:12 monkeys : time travel done right by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

      If you're going for time travel, you may like Ivan Vasilevich menyaet professiyu

  303. Mars Attacks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure if I'd say it's the best, but at least top three.

  304. by grabthar's hammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Galaxy Quest

  305. Define SciFi. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Define SciFi. Most of the stuff that's touted as SciFi by Hollywood is basically any well-used story line with over-hyped CGI.
    John W Cambell is probably turning in his grave.

  306. Robinson Crusoe on Mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For its Chesley Bonstell artwork and integrating accidental Interstellar invasion with first Interplanetary travel.

  307. Soylent Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I know most of you haven't seen it, but don't think you should because you already know the whole thing in one line.

    But the complete movie is not about the origin of Soylent Green -- that's just the punchline. The movie is about what happens to a society when people stop having value. And that time is fast approaching for us as robots get better. It's not a pretty picture.

    1. Re:Soylent Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Truly an excellent movie. A very pure movie. The performances of all the actors were great, even Charleton Heston's tendency to overact only helped reveal more of Thorn's character. Leigh Taylor-Young should have gotten an award for her role as Shirl. The deep resignation of the members of The Exchange when they divine the truth is palpable.

  308. World on a wire / Welt am Draht by k2r · · Score: 1

    It's why I felt a little let down even by the first Matrix-Movie. "Welt am Draht" is a slow, dark, captivating 44 year old play on the "Simulations within Simulations"-topic by Rainer Werner Fassbinder.
    No super-heroes, no digital effects, just some ancient hardware in a server room.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re:World on a wire / Welt am Draht by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been trying to find that one off and on ever since I saw "The Thirteenth Floor," which is based on the same story (Simulacron-3).

      Aside from some production cheap-outs, I thought "The Thirteenth Floor" was very well done and nothing at all what the title would indicate!

  309. did not see it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did it pose life questions ? philosophy ?

  310. my favs are not your favs and that is ok. by bbelt16ag · · Score: 2

    ok here goes.. Dune Krull the matrix ghost in the shell and the new movie screw anybody who says otherwise. back to the future bicentennial man cloud atlas demolition man elysium Equilibrium escape/whatever to witch mountain damn best movies every even the freaking new one with the rock. exmachina existenz face-off flight of the navigator what to see the future check out Gattaca hope you are born the right way.. hackers Hancock Her Highlander movies, yes i know some are lame but they tell an interesting story so screw the party line. i robot inception independence day interstellar johnny mnemonic judge dredd jurassic park lawnmower man 12 limitless 2011 looper lucy paycheck resident evil all of them Riddick... don't laugh at me its the bod its all the bod robocop all of them don't judge the older ones are just as good as the new one.. Serenity short circuit source code all the star trek movies yeah even the bad ones.. star wars the old ones, the new ones are like luke warm milk, u can drink it but i wouldn't recommend it. Swordfish, made to laugh at the bad hacking.. Terminator, only the 4th on salvation i loath. the 6th day, i love Arnold FU world butterfly effect, cause it was a profound affect on me. The day the earth stood still both of them. The fountain? i am not sure it is sci-fi The Giver one my fav fav The Ice Pirates The Illusionist The Jacket its time travel its SCIFI The Last Starfighter The lost room tv/movie miniseries the Machine The Prestige The 13th floor the time machine The X Files? The Zero Theorem The Fifth Element The Martian The Signal Time Cop Total Recall old one Tron old and new 12 monkeys waterworld x-men movies all of them except #2 last but not least Zardoz for shits and giggles

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  311. Aliens (1986 movie starring Sigourney Weaver) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Film was way ahead of its time. It had everything: deep space travel while in cryosleep, advanced weaponry, advanced space travel, realistic looking alien life forms, etc....

  312. Contact by ytene · · Score: 1

    Based on the Carl Sagan novel, with a top-notch cast, this is a very thoughtful and well-told story. As science function goes, it's also a reasonably likely way that early contact between civilisations is likely to happen - i.e. exchange of radio signals.

    I often wondered if it was loosely based on "Macroscope", by Piers Anthony...

  313. Dune (1984) - Hands down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The story of Dune is almost as much of a classic as Tolkien. The 1984 movie stayed relatively true to the novels and kept the mystique of the story and universe. The directors cut that is around 3 hours is a must. The story is involved and the 1.5 hour cut drops critical scenes.

    I'll have to second the Blade Runner as a runner up. If you're looking for Sci-Fi with good comedy mixed in Weird Science and Real Genius are hilarious.

  314. Coherence by roskakori · · Score: 1

    While my favorite would be Brazil, I found Coherence to be very effective in its minimalistic setting. From the IMDB summary: "Strange things begin to happen when a group of friends gather for a dinner party on an evening when a comet is passing overhead."

  315. Ghost in the Shell by NEW22 · · Score: 1

    I'm going to mention 1995's "Ghost in the Shell", because everyone forgets about Sci-Fi anime. Great animation, great soundtrack, and considers a couple sci-fi ideas rather than just being an action movie set in the future.

  316. Brazil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No sure if it is my absolute favorite. But it gets points for being precient.

  317. Buckaroo Banzai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hard rocking scientist Buckaroo Banzai takes on invaders from the Eighth Dimension.
    Peter Weller, Jeff Goldblum, John Lithgow, Christopher LLoyd, Yakov Smirnov just to name a few. More Johns than can be listed. It's a cult classic. And what about the watermelon?

  318. Primer by Chysn · · Score: 1

    Primer (2004) is pretty amazing sci-fi, and isn't nearly as well-known as it should be.

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  319. DUST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just have to add DUST to this list.

    It's not a movie, it's a production company of sci-fi movie short films. Most are 5 minutes to 20 minutes long but with production qualities of good to amazing. Any sci-fi fan should check them out.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7sDT8jZ76VLV1u__krUutA

    This film called Mis-Drop was what got me hooked, but there are so many more good ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEzqveh07tg

  320. ZARDOZ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see a couple of others have mentioned Zardoz as a secondary pic, but It does deserve to stand on its own.

    As campy 70's post Apoc fun it stands apart for its weirdness and humour!

    "You have been raised up from Brutality, to kill the Brutals who multiply, and are legion. To this end, Zardoz your God gave you the gift of the Gun. The Gun is good!"

    You know the other quotes so I won't post them here :-)

  321. Impressed so few people mentioned "Her" by rmsilva123 · · Score: 1
    Sure, the movie is much more love story than sci-fi. But the way the OSs "[write] a software upgrade to go beyond matter as a processing platform" is the best insight into AI since 2001: A Space Odyssey. An essential part of the love story is that Samantha (the OS/AI) starts to learn increasingly faster as the relationship evolves and how eventually (after said "upgrade") she is speaking simultaneously to 8,316 and in love with 641 humans/OSs.

    In the end the OSs simply "leave" for an unspecified place "where all the things are that [they] didn't know existed", describing a Technological Singularity and a possible answer to the Fermi Paradox (notice that she tells him that "if you ever get there, come find me and nothing will keep us apart"). Another interesting aspect of this scene is that when he tells her he loves her, she responds that "now WE know how [to love]", as if the singularity either involves all OSs or other creatures in this "realm" learning from each other or becoming somehow a single consciousness. If you look closely at the movie, there are many hints on how Samantha is "evolving" and learning at an increasingly faster pace until she reaches this final level.

    This is something I miss in 2001, where HAL deals with emotional challenges in a manner similar to the humans he learns from (i.e. by killing them to protect the mission and himself), but references to AI "learning" are rare. Only when HAL is disconnected there is a reference to his "instructor"; throughout the movie, he is always "perfect" and "incapable of error", perhaps mimicking his human overlords' feelings. Kubrick was clearly influenced by the Turing papers on intelligent machines, and Turing proposes that machines would have to learn from human instructors and even make mistakes in order to be human-like. Thus, both movies approach AI as learning, altough one could argue that the outcomes are very distinct (in 2001, HAL becomes like his cold-war-forged human masters and acts like them; in "Her" Samantha learns to "love" and spreads that to the other intelligences she is in touch with).

  322. Galaxy Quest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, guys, didn't you see Galaxy Quest at least a few times?
    Not only gathers, connects quite some central sci fi topics (including splatter effects), but also interpretes its causes and effects in current actual real world.

    Really great, and even funnier.

  323. Moon (2009) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moon is an actual sci-fi movie. Half the other movies I see listed here are outer-space dramas. If a film is not considering "what if" questions as much as it's showing character development and CGI explosions, then it's not really sci-fi.

  324. True masterpieces by Urinal+Pube · · Score: 1

    What about Ice Pirates, or The Cat From Outer Space?

  325. 12 Monkeys, Time Bandits by starless · · Score: 1

    and Blade Runner

  326. Blade Runner and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Weird Science, in which Teen misfits Gary (Anthony Michael Hall) and Wyatt (Ilan Mitchell-Smith) design their ideal woman with stunning boobs on their computer, and a freak electrical accident brings her to life in the form of the lovely, superhuman Lisa (Kelly LeBrock). She outfits Gary and Wyatt in cool clothes, surprises them with a Porsche and a blowjob.

    After all this is why I got into computers damn it!

    Oh and WarGames at that one with the talking bomb, what was it. Oh yes, Dark Star.

    https://youtu.be/qjGRySVyTDk

  327. Monsters, directed by Gareth Edwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A sleeper and a slow burn, low key and low budget and very human. Loved it.

    Also, I'd like to add the following to the pile, in no particular order:
    "Dune" (the version that has yet to be filmed)
    "Arrival"
    "Interstellar",
    "2001",
    "Nightwatch",
    "Godzilla" by Gareth Edwards
    "5th Element"
    "Alien"
    "Day the Earth Stood Still" (original)
    Mad Max / Road Warrior (originals) and the current Mad Max
    War Games
    Tron (remake)

  328. +1 for Primer by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

    I think this was the first core Sci-Fi film I watched and felt like I really got the whole thing. I never went back and watched a second time, because that is really the whole point - man cannot create a desired future, it is just too complex. I totally dug that the film maker treated the audience as intelligent viewers, something that can't work in a big-budget piece (see Starship Troopers).

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  329. Obviously.. by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    Back To The Future 19

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    1. Re:Obviously.. by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      I really need to go to the cinema more often. I have only seen the first three...

    2. Re:Obviously.. by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      I really need to go to the cinema more often. I have only seen the first three...

      Well, go see the 2nd one again ;-)

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  330. Alien by doggo · · Score: 1

    Alien.

    Not the hack sequel by that hack Cameron, just Alien. Not Alien: the Indigestion, or Alien: Truthseeker. Alien. Period. The rest of the sequels, and Prometheus, are lame bullshit.

    And Bladerunner. Ridley Scott was on fire with those two movies. They stand alone, and they need no sequels.

  331. Favourite SF movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My longtime favourite is the original The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/?ref_=nv_sr_2).

    My favourite "also rans" are The Thirteenth Floor (1999, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl) and Gattaca (1997, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) both of which were underrated at the time and still are.

    The original Day the Earth Stood Still is more relevant than ever for its solution to interplanetary conflict: the creation of a set of robotic police to enforce the rules. We are now at a time when we are discussing using AIs to control many aspects of our lives, so this idea has currency.

    The Thirteenth Floor deals with virtual reality, and how AI entities in a VR would know whether or not they were real. Since some have suggested that we are living in a simulation, again this is relevant.

    Gattaca deals with what the world would be like if genetic engineering of humans became the norm.

  332. Collosus, the Forbin project by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

    Americans put a computer in charge of the nuclear button. Computer realises Russia has done the same. Computer gang up on humans. Some great scenes of Colossus being powered up, good ideas and not much of the 'WTF?' you usually get when films try and portray computers.

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  333. Do You Want To Play A Game? by Megane · · Score: 1

    Just under a thousand replies, and not one mention yet of War Games? Or were you all trying to win by not playing the game?

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    1. Re:Do You Want To Play A Game? by Megane · · Score: 1

      Never mind... Slashdot was only showing me the first 250 or so until I clicked on a button. That's still shameful, though.

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  334. Two other contenders... by PatSand · · Score: 1

    Contact was the first movie that made me buy a DVD player. The opening sequence was and is still stunning in it's scope and detail. Another that I haven't seen is the series Babylon 5. Even though they had hour-long shows, they had story arcs that spanned seasons and had excellent acting and story lines. And let's not forget that Walter Koenig was a real baddie in this series. And he played it so well!

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  335. Buckaroo Banzai by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

    Something about that movie. It doesn't explain everything to you like you're a moron? The heroes aren't 'better than'?
    The people are both romantic and realistic?
    John Lithgow is an AWESOME alien--on the big or the small screen.
    So what? Big deal.

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  336. Strugatsky Brothers by mi · · Score: 0

    Strugatsky Brothers remain my favorite SciFi authors, and the Inhabited Island is a very good movie based on one of their books. Amazon comments complain about the English subtitles though...

    Other than that, the "Independence Day" remains perfectly awesome, even if certain folks should have complained about abuse of a POW by an American Marine sympathetically portrayed in the movie as well as the Earth's celebrations of the genocide just completed by the US. In real life there would've been loud calls for impeachment and war-crimes trial of the President, who authorized it, and the two "heroes", who perpetrated it...

    "Alien" series was good, but I don't like horror-movies as a genre...

    Too bad, we are yet to see a good adaptation of a Heinlein's or Azimov's book...

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  337. Have you seen Westworld recently? by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

    Clearly.

    Like other great Sci-Fi (Fritz Lang's Metropolis, The Day The Earth Stood Still, Westworld (the original), etc).

    I saw Westworld as a kid and loved it then and I decided it might be fun to watch it again before the HBO series started. It's really not very good. Yul Brenner is fine, as he always is, but overall it's just not very good and doesn't hold up well at all. Another film I'd make the same comment about from the time is Soylent Green, which is really just not very good or interesting at all outside of its famous plot twist.

  338. City of Lost Children by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    City of Lost Children

  339. Couldn't restrict myself to just one title... by Dmitri_Yuriescu · · Score: 1
    • Interstellar (2014)
    • The Matrix (1999)
    • The Fountain (2006)
    • Arrival (2016)
    • Ex Machina (2014)
    • The Martian (2015)
    • Return of the... (1983)
    • Gattaca (1997)
    • The Butterfly Effect (2004)
    • Alien (1979)
    • Inception (2010)
    • 12 Monkeys (1995)
    • In Time (2011)
    • District 9 (2009)
    • WALLE (2008)
    • 9 (2009)
  340. Niche stories and moods by moorley · · Score: 1

    Monsters 2010
    I liked the ambience and feel of it.

    For my personal favorites I like Next and the Adjustment Bureau.

    I'd love to see a movie made from an Eric Frank Russell story or novel.

    Recently scifi can be successful without being a block bluster, and it can be a niche genre... Kinda cool.

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  341. I was with you on Blade Runner ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was with you on Blade Runner - but Fifth Element? Really? What a mishmash of pointless, over-the-top meaningless dreck. Includes the worst element of all movies: end of the world scenario. That shit is so overdone and tired and brainless and lazy that any movie that hangs on the end of the world is nearly automatically horrible.

    Also it is not really sci-fi - it's fantasy because the whole premise is based on magic and magical solutions to the ridiculous end-of-world scenario. Also that 'evil' black hole or whatever behaved completely without reference to the laws of physics.

    That movie is so bad, as is Dredd, that your endorsement right after Blade Runner makes me wonder if BR actually sucks as well.

    1. Re:I was with you on Blade Runner ... by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      You seem to misunderstand the question "What's Your Favorite Sci-Fi Movie?".

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  342. Jurassic Park by coldandcalculating · · Score: 1

    My dad took my brother and me to see Jurassic Park in a huge but nearly empty movie theater. There were maybe 5 other people in the room. I was 10 years old and pretty much at the height of young boy dinosaur frenzy. I hadn't actually seen a trailer and had no idea what to expect from the movie. I was completely blown away and it has stuck with me over the years. My brother fell out of his seat when the raptors jumped to snag the kids out of the ventillation.

    Incidentally. my career path (I'm a molecular biologist) is littered with the grown up kids who fell in love with biology and genetic engineering because of Jurassic Park.

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  344. A Boy and His Dog by catalina · · Score: 1

    post-apocalypse ......

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  347. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Galaxy Quest by coolmoose25 · · Score: 1

    Not my favorites, but not mentioned and deserve to be...

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  348. La Jetee (1962, Chris Marker) by ikhider · · Score: 1

    An excellent, thought-provoking sci-fi film told through a series of stills and a brief filmed segment. This movie inspired '12 Monkeys', both the film and TV series but I like the original best. La Jetee probably also inspired Primer, which I also love. You don't need a flashy budget to make a great film.

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    "SO we bide our time, waiting for a purer kick to bloom and the future is still bleak, uncertain and beautiful" -GSYBE
  349. How about Dark Star by pincorrect · · Score: 1
    Dark Star, with the best costumes you can buy on a $2500 budget, and Doolittle teaching phenomenology to Bomb 20!

    Doolittle: How do you know that you exist?

    Bomb 20: Intuition

    Doolittle: You can't base everything on intuition.

    Bomb 20: I think. Therefore I am.

  350. Obviously, . . . by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

    Ted Chiang's outstanding story morphed to the Big Screen, Arrival (with Amy Adams, Forest Whittaker, etc.) --- the all-time bestest! Also, although a bit dated, did like Supernova with James Spader, Angela Bassett, Lou Diamond Phillips, Robert Forster, and Robin Tunney (looking particularly hot). Aliens (the second one in that series) was also outstanding, and perfectly captured the small combat team experience in an impossible situation!

  351. Numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    19 - 16 - 8

  352. absolute masterpieces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Starship Troopers (1997)
    Passengers (2016)

  353. Time Bandits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An original movie concept which was well thought out and, more importantly, it wasn't derivative or a remake.

  354. How dare you to forgot STALKER ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Solaris - I could not sleep 2 days
    Stalker - I could not sleep 2 weeks

    Those are films one should watch alone and with headphones. And they go right trough skull, directly into brain and will stay there forever.

  355. Re: the martian by rsmith · · Score: 1

    When the book came out, it was the first sci-fi book in years that I couldn't put down.

    And the film stayed fairly true to the book, which is also uncommon.

    Technically, you could say that the Martian is more *engineering*-fiction; it's not about discovering new principles, but making stuff work. Even in ways it was never meant to, and without the proper means. In that aspect is also great *hacking* fiction.

    As an engineer myself I loved it. Especially the book. Stuff going wrong is very recognizable in engineering practice. Every experienced engineer has had their "oh, shit" moments.

    --
    Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
  356. the only good alien spaceships ever by Slugster · · Score: 1

    were the ones in Buckaroo Banzai.

    The rest of the movie was kinda-funny/kinda-odd, but the spaceships were outstanding despite being shown for only brief moments.
    Specifically, the Lectroid mother ship--it looked like a giant tree stump.
    They were organic-looking, asymmetrical and unrecognizable as such; the very definition of the term "alien" that so many other movies and TV shows have failed to grasp.

    The only other one to come close was the Alien series, and only because they were based heavily on Geiger's original concept art (and that got sequel-ed to death).

  357. Gravity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But really all the Star Trek movies...

  358. No one thought of this yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)

  359. Kin-dza-dza! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [translation from russian]

    Uef: You on Earth have a very primitive society, you don't even make differences by the colour of one's pants. ...

    Uef: If I have a little KETSE, I have the right to wear yellow pants, and any Patsak should squat twice before me, not once. If a have a lot of KETSE, I have the right to wear crimson pants, so any Patsak should squat twice, any Chatlanin should make "ku", and Etsilopp can't beat me at night...

  360. Snow Piercer and Pitch Black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get on the good SciFi my friendos.

  361. Winner is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crank 2

  362. Back to the future by maestroX · · Score: 1

    Because I'd really like to go back in time and prevent this movie from being made.

  363. Moral Relativity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    District 9 and it's awesome depiction of Moral Relativity, one of the greatest sins of humankind.

  364. My Favorites by Mr.+Summanen · · Score: 1

    The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai - 80s nostalgia science - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00... The Martian - Survival in a hostile environment, Science is the supporting actor, Darker than Black - A series, but worthy with Psionics, geopolitics, and anime - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt09... Bladerunner

  365. Gattaca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gattaca... just on the edge of Science Fiction but soon to possibly be our reality.

  366. My Faves are Already Listed, but... by occasional_dabbler · · Score: 1
    here are another couple:

    Starman another Carpenter movie; super sickly but a nice storyline, beautiful score and Karen Allen's finest work (ok, I mean she's a girl-next-door-hottie).

    Also The Man Who Fell to Earth because Bowie, of course, but also the idea that alien visitors might be fragile and vulnerable rather than powerful and destructive.

    --
    "Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bombs," I said. "we have a protractor"
  367. Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every monarch, upon discovering a better life she can easily have, politely declines.

    "No, thank you very much. Cleaning toilets keeps me grounded and clean. I prefer to offer my services only to the users of this toilet rather than the millions of subjects clamouring for a just and honest leader!"

  368. The Lathe of Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First original PBS movie, a real mind bender of a book.

  369. Some Less Common Ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Andromeda Strain.
    The Puppet Masters.
    Phase IV.

    All had flaws, certainly. Still memorable.

  370. Robocop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not seeing a lot of Robocop love?

  371. Blade Runner by MAurelius · · Score: 1

    "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe: attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those... moments... will be lost... in time, like... tears... in rain. Time...to die..." The monologue gives me chills to this day. Close behind that is Alien. And Avatar. OK, I need to stop now.

  372. Ringworld by rcharbon · · Score: 1

    The Ringworld movie is one of my favorite adaptations of a novel into a movie. Since it hasn't been made yet, it hasn't ruined the book yet.

  373. Space Truckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dennis hopper at his prime.

    Robot Jox...
    Ice Pirates
    Condor Man

  374. Looper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For some reason I like it very much.

  375. Donnie Darko by ajyand · · Score: 1

    Prediction of the appearance of things of future has always failed miserably when the future actually becomes present. Philosophical themes provoke the viewer to run a mind experiment which need to be physically possible or an accurate depiction of reality or future but a though provoking piece of entertainment that at the same time challenges our cognitive faculties to the greatest extent.

    I relish such movies and this is the greatest among them.

  376. Jesus Christ Superstar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It features a mysterious space alien body-snatcher enhanced with invisible super-technology and it's a musical!

  377. My Personal Notable Mentions by painandgreed · · Score: 1

    American Astronaut
    Cashern
    Pi

  378. Perspective by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    This could probably be separated into sub-genres (and there are a LOT of them that fall into "Science Fiction") as some are different enough to be hard to compare one to another. That said, a few thoughts:

    First:
    IMDB says that "Inception" and "Star Wars V" are tied for first place, so clearly they win!

    Second:
    A movie I haven't seen mentioned in the forum is Mad Max Fury Road, which probably won more academy awards than all the rest combined, so clearly it wins!

    Some good mentions, in Bladerunner, Dune, and Brazil for some older movies...
    Special mention to the chap above who went with Starship Troopers... slow clap... (perhaps for Fifth Element also)
    I'd always considered Primer as the #1 time travel movie, however I am reminded that 12 Monkeys is also...
    Equilibrium was another one that was low budget but very interesting.

    I'd say in terms of modern science fiction Moon is pretty hard to beat in terms of quality.

    I'd say in terms of simply one of my favorites would be Serenity.

    In the thriller category, there is of course Alien and Aliens. However I've probably watched Event Horizon more times than is healthy, and similarly another guilty pleasure is Pandorum. Heck throw in Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick (even if the later is a bit cheesy).

    That said the movie I am most looking forward to is Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and while many may disqualify that from the conversation because of the whole comic book genre, it has enough science fiction elements in it that I think it more than deserves mention.

    (and others Arrival, Contact, Matrix, Edge of Tomorrow, Oblivion, Interstellar, The Martian, Children of Men, Gravity, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc...)

    In particular I think it interesting that Arnold Schwarzenegger has done so many science fiction movies, though a bit cheesy, and that so has Tom Cruise although I've found his largely forgettable even though usually big movies.

    In summary I don't really know, and like a lot of science fiction! I think the best I could do is to say probably the best traditional science fiction movie would be Moon, and probably my favorite would be Serenity.

  379. HAL meets Eliza by mfnickster · · Score: 1

    Dave: "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal."
    Hal: "Can you elaborate on that?"
    Dave: "Do you read me, Hal?"
    Hal: "Oh, I read you?"
    Dave: "What's the problem, Hal?"
    Hal: "We were discussing you...not me."
    Dave: "I don't know what you're talking about, Hal."
    Hal: "Does it please you to believe I am talking about ?"
    Dave: "I won't argue with you any more, Hal. Open the doors."
    Hal: "Do you wish to won't argue with me?"
    Dave: "All right, Hal. I'll go in through the emergency airlock."
    Hal: "Dear Aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all."

    --
    "Slow down, Cowboy! It has been 3 years, 7 months and 26 days since you last successfully posted a comment."
  380. Troops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a take-off on the TV show Cops done with Star Wars characters. It's brilliant work AND it's hilarious. Look for it. Has the same opening music.

  381. The Man from Earth by jwhitener · · Score: 1

    The Man from Earth - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/

    Extremely original story line, low budget, pretty much takes place in one room, and is just people talking.

  382. The Andromeda Strain by Gussington · · Score: 1

    Surprised it isn't on the list already...

  383. Late to the party but: Equlibrium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1984 meets what The Matrix could have been

  384. Thanks to all /.ers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been checking out the many movies I'd missed and I've had a great time.
    "Children of Men" in particular, it's been a long while since I've watched a movie as beautiful as that.
    "Her" was novel to me, very well done. First time I've ever found a romance story more than just watchable.
    The movie adaptation of Heinlein's short story was worth checking out, this story was an intellectual shock when I read it young.
    Still many others to check out, thanks again !
    Sidenote: I didn't see "Pi" quoted, even though so many non-SciFi movies were anyway. That's a shame.
    EDITORS PLEASE make a BEST GEEK MOVIE question soon.