Fair Turnabout implies the situation is the same, but turned around. That is not the case here. Difference being that Linus is NOT out there behind a podium telling a crowd of people that "this is best brand New Version of Linux EVER, and it's totally different and better" Without a figurehead idiot trumping up this update its just not the same thing. You can't really blame the Linux community for being interested in a update to their software can you? It's not like they are making grandiose claims or holding press large press conferences that this is "the next big thing" (like Apple and others routinely do for their basic updates).
ATG makes over $50 million a year in REVENUE. They grew by 16% last year.
Even if this growth rate slows (more likely to accelerate as market improves) Oracle will still get a FULL return on their investment in 15 years or so. That's much better than the 20 P/E ratio that Buffet always swore by and got so rich on.
Oracle is buying a profitable company that produces a commerce package that allows complex transactions, like the poster above mentioned. ATG also has a customer base of 1000 large Orgs, that are likely not a duplicate list of Oracle shops. (Meaning Oracle now has contacts and inroads into several more large orgs) THIS is why Oracle bought ATG: A commerce package they can bolt onto their vertical platform offerings, a customer base, and a solid revenue stream. The bogus IP patents are just icing on the cake to help Oracle defend itself from MS, Google, Apple etc.
Smart thing would be to avoid using their products if you don't like their business model. Other than outright war its the only affect you can hope to have on them.
FTC and SEC should do their jobs and not rubber stamp their approval UNLESS Oracle can show HOW THIS WILL BE OF BENEFIT TO CONSUMERS. otherwise deny it!
oh, and I forgot to bring up Line pole workers, and Coal miners, the jobs with most fatalities per person. They do put their lives on the line, and though well compensated, don't really receive risk pay above their salaries. All the convenience store and 7-11 clerks are in a similar boat - yeah there is small risk, but you comply and are fine, and its considered part of the job of working late night around money.
You would be amazed at what death and destruction a person can get used to given enough time, just look at Afghanistan, the West Bank or other warn torn areas, the people don't even flinch when bombs are far enough away. Why can you count on the robber not to shoot you, because its the money he wants. Someone looking to just kill someone for kicks will not do it in such a lit, recorded environment. Someone looking to steal money wants to get away with it, not get caught. If no one gets shot the police will stop looking for these guys TOMORROW, and only pursue if something falls in their lap - not to slight the police work ethic, they are just too overworked to do any REAL police work on cases where someone isn't dead. They shot at someone, even if they miss, and they gain a whole lot of heat they do not want.
However Dick has no real physical power, and doesn't have the legal immunity lord Vader did. Lets not give this looser any more credit than he deserves, Cheney couldn't pull off being the emperor or Vader, he's more like WormTongue from LOTR. A leeching little weasel with his tongue in the ear of the old king. Of course now that a new king is in power, he has retreated behind enemy lines, to continue his insipid evil work... Dickie has also shown that he can't hold a gun without shooting someone in the face!
Very Cool, and thanks for sharing...but... Not really First person Tetris: For me True First person would have you Inside each Tetris piece, as if it were a vehicle, or creature, with "eyes" that you were seeing first person from: This is following the orientation of the tetris piece, but not its perspective: To be truly first person your view ahead would be first that of a blank wall, then of stacks of blocks, looking like rooftops. A) You would not be able to see gaps under pieces, and would have to use depth perception to tell how deep or tall each stack of blocks was (is that hole two deep or three)? B) Even worse your perspective would rotate when you rotate the piece, and you would have to face - away from the bottom of the screen, and loose sight of where you were going, you would have to line up, and determine the number of turns, and then turn and "back In" blind. (Bonus though, when you face up, you should be able to see the next piece that coming down, (though you could only see the bottom of it)
(Abortion arguments aside if that's possible:), A person is alive and can be murdered - before they have been given birth too. Some DA's have entered murder charges for cases where pregnant mother was murdered.
Really a petty point though, killing ones mother or father in the past has same effect, again with the ludicrous idea of time travel though
how do you get a patent awarded on something that has already been released as "open source" (Hadoop)
This does not add up, either Hadoop is not really open source, or US patent office are as FCKING stupid as EVERYONE seems to think they are.
Come on people, don't you get tired of the shame of working for such an organization....don't you want to see freedom and democracy restored to the world..?>?>
They = ICANN, the body legally responsible for yanking the license of a domain name registrar if they don't react quickly to this kind of BS. SOMEONE has to first complain and ask the DomainName Registrar to revoke the domain name, if they don't comply then SOMEONE has to complain to ICANN. So first SOMEONE has to change to real living person willing to register the complaint (should fall to the first person who finds themselves infected).
ICANN can be slow, but it has revoke Domain Name Registrar licenses and can do so pretty much at will.
I digitized my CD collection to 320kbps. I ran similar tests audio tests using quality component stereo set-up (speakers/amp), and just playing on the PC ($80 audigy zx card)over a $80 5.1 surround Logitech speakers. I also used good pair of over-ear (muffs)headphones. I used a variety of different music to test with (metal, jazz, rap, classical, pop, etc) the majority were off the shelf music CDs, one was a DDD (all digital) Gold disc of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. I used mostly songs we would have heard in different situations and were familiar with/ It had 5 test subjects including myself for the fuller tests, and ran a few follow up tests with about a dozen people.
The results: 192kbps was good enough for the majority on most songs. Going back and forth you could tell a difference on some songs, and on the component stereo system, no one could really tell the difference @ 192. The good pair of headphones was better at revealing the differences - 192 more consistently given a worse rating than a straight play back from the original CD. Everyone agreed that on pretty much any equipment 128kbps sounded noticeably worse (though they would still enjoy the music).
The magic line was 256kbps.
At this rate no one was able to discern any difference between the original or the ripd mp3. Everyone agreed they both sounded like it should, no real distortion, or "sound" to the music, just the music itself. I got similar results for 320kbps. No one could tell the difference. (I would say there was even a preference for the 320 over the original format, but it could have been test bias)
A very large CD collection will fit in 100GB at 320kbps, and sounds great! I would recommend backing up your collection at at least 256, or better 320 (not much more space)
Best of all, the files will play on pretty much any computer or audio player as is. If I want a CD for non-mp3 (real CD player), I can spit one out, that no-one could tell the difference from the original on.
Or even worse.... I bet as this is a M$ program, it doesn't even really have two separate networks, rather just masks that the network traffic is really visible to both.
ATTENTION PC does not = Windows
PC (personal computer) is great as a router, especially when running OpenBSD, ComixWall, or even Linux or others.
You can actaully host the syslog files on the computer, and do neat things like packet inspection, firewall rules, and more.
Your old P-133 is probably hosting a 180-200w power supply at max.
Consider the actual power use of a machine like this is closer to 30-40w of real power use, and compares a little more favorably with the $60 store router.
Granted the dedicated device is lower power, but also weaker.
An old P-133 can be maxed out with memory, and have a nice reliable used HD placed in it.
Not only does this actually open the OPTION of keeping syslogs
(this is not a real option for most net toasters, as most have to send the syslog off to another dedicated server.)
You can also do much stronger firewall rules, packet inspection etc, that the net boxes aren't capable of.
Even further the net toaster routers seem to be much less secure than say a box running Comixwall or OpenBSD with PF.
I would say your current solution is much better, if you have $60 to burn drop a SSD drive in an old PC for a great performing router:
16 GB SSD PATA drives are can be had from newegg for less than $50.
Not only better speed, but you can probably kill get away with killing the case fans, and then the CPU fan is the only noise.
(on P133 this is pretty quite - IF there is a fan even, and not just a heatsink)
I believe you are mistaken here. DR Dos Ran windows just fine..too good in fact. During the trial MS internal memos showed that DR Dos actually ran Windows better (specifically FASTER and MORE STABLE) and the MS wonks pondered how they could "break" it to not work.
Fearing legal reaction, they never out-right prevented it from working. Instead they settled for a warning message that claimed the software would cause slowness and data corruption (exact opposite of truth).
MS behaved reprehensibly and ultimately paid a large (though way too small for true justice) fine in the millions of dollars.
Government is corrupt and near useless for defending personal rights. Legal arguments aside. Palm is trying to innovate and enable their customers, and they are not hurting Apple or taking anything from them. Apple on the other hand is in a ugly defensive state right now. People should really judge who they want to send their money too, I for one do like Apple way of doing business with either their competition or their customers and they wont get any $ from me.
Oracle is a Database Software application, it is not an OS by any means.
An OS by the most basic definition is the operating system that boots/ and runs programs on the machine. It takes the commands (write this data here, display this picture now) from the applications (like Oracle or Firefox)and sends them to the machine.
This is a simplistic explaination (as there are memory chips like BIOS/EEPROM that boot first, and OS handles users, rights etc) but that is the basic gist.
Oracle is an application (a program that runs on an OS) MYSQL, or Apache would be examples of other applications that run on an OS.
UNIX, Linux, Apple OSX, Windows 95, XP, NT, 2003 etc are all OS. Cisco (and other device manufacturers) sometimes make their own OSes (Cisco's IOS).
Juniper on the other hand released their own OS, but it is based on either BeOS or FreeBSD.
OpenBSD, FreeBSD and NetBSD are all based on the original Berkley Unix, but are open source and free to use. Linux was "modeled" or "inspired" by Unix but is supposed to not be a direct copy of the code.
Now granted Oracle is not your typical application, it has clustering and redundancy and all sorts of other complicated features, but it needs an OS to run on.
Oracle is usually loaded on Unix/Linux. The most popular to load it on is Solaris, which is Sun's version of Unix. This is one of the main reasons Oracle bought Sun (and for Java and MySQL software ownership)
You can run Oracle on other OS's though.
IBM makes AIX, and HP makes HPUX, both which will run Oracle, and there there are various Linux distros that will run Oracle as well
A good rule of thumb is with an OS you will have to load an install disk, and actually install that OS on the machine you are using. With an Applicaiton (like Oracle) you would boot up the OS, log in as a user, and then proceed to install the application.
Remote terminals, desktops, Xwindowing, Virtual machines and images all confuse this topic greatly
You can also have an application, that boots up when the operating systems starts, loads and begins to run a program. A linux OS can be set up to boot an apache web server or kiosk terminal when powered on. If you caught it you would see the linux code on the screen, but once booted the machine might not present a typical OS login, it may instead have a program, or web page running on the screen.
I think your question got ignored because this is an uber-geek site, and your question seems a bit of a "noob" (a inexperienced user)feel to it. But I can see how from the outside view this is a very valid question - to most users what is on the screen is the equivalent of what OS or program it is running.
Oh and fellow geeks, Please before you waste the time flaming (criticizing) I have tried to paraphrase and make this a simple non complicated answer, don't bother pointing out the exceptions please.
I have already written a complaint letter to the SEC and my congressmen and WhiteHouse. I STRONGLY URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME!!! The SEC is supposed to stop companies from creating monopolies, and buying out competitors for no reason other than getting more money out of the public. The general public benefits much more from having these two companies competing with each other. Please take action instead of just complaining about it here. Just buying your competition in Un-American, and bad for the marketplace in general. Disney and Marvel both should have to innovate and compete like the rest of us.
I have already written a complaint letter to the SEC and my congressmen and WhiteHouse. I STRONGLY URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME!!! The SEC is supposed to stop companies from creating monopolies, and buying out competitors for no reason other than getting more money out of the public. The general public benefits much more from having these two companies competing with each other. Please take action instead of just complaining about it here. Just buying your competition in Un-American, and bad for the marketplace in general. Disney and Marvel both should have to innovate and compete like the rest of us.
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Fair Turnabout implies the situation is the same, but turned around. That is not the case here. Difference being that Linus is NOT out there behind a podium telling a crowd of people that "this is best brand New Version of Linux EVER, and it's totally different and better"
Without a figurehead idiot trumping up this update its just not the same thing. You can't really blame the Linux community for being interested in a update to their software can you? It's not like they are making grandiose claims or holding press large press conferences that this is "the next big thing" (like Apple and others routinely do for their basic updates).
ATG makes over $50 million a year in REVENUE.
They grew by 16% last year.
Even if this growth rate slows (more likely to accelerate as market improves) Oracle will still get a FULL return on their investment in 15 years or so.
That's much better than the 20 P/E ratio that Buffet always swore by and got so rich on.
Oracle is buying a profitable company that produces a commerce package that allows complex transactions, like the poster above mentioned.
ATG also has a customer base of 1000 large Orgs, that are likely not a duplicate list of Oracle shops. (Meaning Oracle now has contacts and inroads into several more large orgs)
THIS is why Oracle bought ATG: A commerce package they can bolt onto their vertical platform offerings, a customer base, and a solid revenue stream.
The bogus IP patents are just icing on the cake to help Oracle defend itself from MS, Google, Apple etc.
Smart thing would be to avoid using their products if you don't like their business model. Other than outright war its the only affect you can hope to have on them.
FTC and SEC should do their jobs and not rubber stamp their approval UNLESS Oracle can show HOW THIS WILL BE OF BENEFIT TO CONSUMERS. otherwise deny it!
oh, and I forgot to bring up Line pole workers, and Coal miners, the jobs with most fatalities per person. They do put their lives on the line, and though well compensated, don't really receive risk pay above their salaries. All the convenience store and 7-11 clerks are in a similar boat - yeah there is small risk, but you comply and are fine, and its considered part of the job of working late night around money.
You would be amazed at what death and destruction a person can get used to given enough time, just look at Afghanistan, the West Bank or other warn torn areas, the people don't even flinch when bombs are far enough away.
Why can you count on the robber not to shoot you, because its the money he wants. Someone looking to just kill someone for kicks will not do it in such a lit, recorded environment. Someone looking to steal money wants to get away with it, not get caught.
If no one gets shot the police will stop looking for these guys TOMORROW, and only pursue if something falls in their lap - not to slight the police work ethic, they are just too overworked to do any REAL police work on cases where someone isn't dead. They shot at someone, even if they miss, and they gain a whole lot of heat they do not want.
Cheney wishes he was this cool of a villain.
However Dick has no real physical power, and doesn't have the legal immunity lord Vader did.
Lets not give this looser any more credit than he deserves, Cheney couldn't pull off being the emperor or Vader, he's more like WormTongue from LOTR.
A leeching little weasel with his tongue in the ear of the old king. Of course now that a new king is in power, he has retreated behind enemy lines, to continue his insipid evil work...
Dickie has also shown that he can't hold a gun without shooting someone in the face!
Luke's Camo on Endor does not count towards this comment: Luke was wearing Camo pants in a forest - where they were appropriate.
You will note later when back in town for the after victory celebration, Luke has changed into less retarded clothing to wear in a civilian situation
I think the comment is for not wearing Camo in general, but around town in inappropriate places (like a bank)
Very Cool, and thanks for sharing...but...
Not really First person Tetris: For me True First person would have you Inside each Tetris piece, as if it were a vehicle, or creature, with "eyes" that you were seeing first person from:
This is following the orientation of the tetris piece, but not its perspective: To be truly first person your view ahead would be first that of a blank wall, then of stacks of blocks, looking like rooftops.
A) You would not be able to see gaps under pieces, and would have to use depth perception to tell how deep or tall each stack of blocks was (is that hole two deep or three)?
B) Even worse your perspective would rotate when you rotate the piece, and you would have to face - away from the bottom of the screen, and loose sight of where you were going, you would have to line up, and determine the number of turns, and then turn and "back In" blind. (Bonus though, when you face up, you should be able to see the next piece that coming down, (though you could only see the bottom of it)
Going back in time is really the impossible part.
(Abortion arguments aside if that's possible:), A person is alive and can be murdered - before they have been given birth too.
Some DA's have entered murder charges for cases where pregnant mother was murdered.
Really a petty point though, killing ones mother or father in the past has same effect, again with the ludicrous idea of time travel though
Indeed, what state are they based in, and which District attorney should we call for to be fired for not following up on this.
how do you get a patent awarded on something that has already been released as "open source" (Hadoop)
This does not add up, either Hadoop is not really open source, or US patent office are as FCKING stupid as EVERYONE seems to think they are.
Come on people, don't you get tired of the shame of working for such an organization....don't you want to see freedom and democracy restored to the world..?>?>
They = ICANN, the body legally responsible for yanking the license of a domain name registrar if they don't react quickly to this kind of BS.
SOMEONE has to first complain and ask the DomainName Registrar to revoke the domain name, if they don't comply then SOMEONE has to complain to ICANN.
So first SOMEONE has to change to real living person willing to register the complaint (should fall to the first person who finds themselves infected).
ICANN can be slow, but it has revoke Domain Name Registrar licenses and can do so pretty much at will.
I digitized my CD collection to 320kbps.
I ran similar tests audio tests using quality component stereo set-up (speakers/amp), and just playing on the PC ($80 audigy zx card)over a $80 5.1 surround Logitech speakers. I also used good pair of over-ear (muffs)headphones.
I used a variety of different music to test with (metal, jazz, rap, classical, pop, etc) the majority were off the shelf music CDs, one was a DDD (all digital) Gold disc of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. I used mostly songs we would have heard in different situations and were familiar with/ It had 5 test subjects including myself for the fuller tests, and ran a few follow up tests with about a dozen people.
The results:
192kbps was good enough for the majority on most songs. Going back and forth you could tell a difference on some songs, and on the component stereo system, no one could really tell the difference @ 192.
The good pair of headphones was better at revealing the differences - 192 more consistently given a worse rating than a straight play back from the original CD.
Everyone agreed that on pretty much any equipment 128kbps sounded noticeably worse (though they would still enjoy the music).
The magic line was 256kbps.
At this rate no one was able to discern any difference between the original or the ripd mp3.
Everyone agreed they both sounded like it should, no real distortion, or "sound" to the music, just the music itself.
I got similar results for 320kbps. No one could tell the difference. (I would say there was even a preference for the 320 over the original format, but it could have been test bias)
A very large CD collection will fit in 100GB at 320kbps, and sounds great!
I would recommend backing up your collection at at least 256, or better 320 (not much more space)
Best of all, the files will play on pretty much any computer or audio player as is.
If I want a CD for non-mp3 (real CD player), I can spit one out, that no-one could tell the difference from the original on.
Or even worse.... I bet as this is a M$ program, it doesn't even really have two separate networks, rather just masks that the network traffic is really visible to both.
ATTENTION PC does not = Windows PC (personal computer) is great as a router, especially when running OpenBSD, ComixWall, or even Linux or others. You can actaully host the syslog files on the computer, and do neat things like packet inspection, firewall rules, and more.
Your old P-133 is probably hosting a 180-200w power supply at max. Consider the actual power use of a machine like this is closer to 30-40w of real power use, and compares a little more favorably with the $60 store router. Granted the dedicated device is lower power, but also weaker. An old P-133 can be maxed out with memory, and have a nice reliable used HD placed in it. Not only does this actually open the OPTION of keeping syslogs (this is not a real option for most net toasters, as most have to send the syslog off to another dedicated server.) You can also do much stronger firewall rules, packet inspection etc, that the net boxes aren't capable of. Even further the net toaster routers seem to be much less secure than say a box running Comixwall or OpenBSD with PF. I would say your current solution is much better, if you have $60 to burn drop a SSD drive in an old PC for a great performing router: 16 GB SSD PATA drives are can be had from newegg for less than $50. Not only better speed, but you can probably kill get away with killing the case fans, and then the CPU fan is the only noise. (on P133 this is pretty quite - IF there is a fan even, and not just a heatsink)
I believe you are mistaken here. DR Dos Ran windows just fine..too good in fact. During the trial MS internal memos showed that DR Dos actually ran Windows better (specifically FASTER and MORE STABLE) and the MS wonks pondered how they could "break" it to not work. Fearing legal reaction, they never out-right prevented it from working. Instead they settled for a warning message that claimed the software would cause slowness and data corruption (exact opposite of truth). MS behaved reprehensibly and ultimately paid a large (though way too small for true justice) fine in the millions of dollars. Government is corrupt and near useless for defending personal rights. Legal arguments aside. Palm is trying to innovate and enable their customers, and they are not hurting Apple or taking anything from them. Apple on the other hand is in a ugly defensive state right now. People should really judge who they want to send their money too, I for one do like Apple way of doing business with either their competition or their customers and they wont get any $ from me.
Oracle is a Database Software application, it is not an OS by any means. An OS by the most basic definition is the operating system that boots/ and runs programs on the machine. It takes the commands (write this data here, display this picture now) from the applications (like Oracle or Firefox)and sends them to the machine. This is a simplistic explaination (as there are memory chips like BIOS/EEPROM that boot first, and OS handles users, rights etc) but that is the basic gist. Oracle is an application (a program that runs on an OS) MYSQL, or Apache would be examples of other applications that run on an OS. UNIX, Linux, Apple OSX, Windows 95, XP, NT, 2003 etc are all OS. Cisco (and other device manufacturers) sometimes make their own OSes (Cisco's IOS). Juniper on the other hand released their own OS, but it is based on either BeOS or FreeBSD. OpenBSD, FreeBSD and NetBSD are all based on the original Berkley Unix, but are open source and free to use. Linux was "modeled" or "inspired" by Unix but is supposed to not be a direct copy of the code. Now granted Oracle is not your typical application, it has clustering and redundancy and all sorts of other complicated features, but it needs an OS to run on. Oracle is usually loaded on Unix/Linux. The most popular to load it on is Solaris, which is Sun's version of Unix. This is one of the main reasons Oracle bought Sun (and for Java and MySQL software ownership) You can run Oracle on other OS's though. IBM makes AIX, and HP makes HPUX, both which will run Oracle, and there there are various Linux distros that will run Oracle as well A good rule of thumb is with an OS you will have to load an install disk, and actually install that OS on the machine you are using. With an Applicaiton (like Oracle) you would boot up the OS, log in as a user, and then proceed to install the application. Remote terminals, desktops, Xwindowing, Virtual machines and images all confuse this topic greatly You can also have an application, that boots up when the operating systems starts, loads and begins to run a program. A linux OS can be set up to boot an apache web server or kiosk terminal when powered on. If you caught it you would see the linux code on the screen, but once booted the machine might not present a typical OS login, it may instead have a program, or web page running on the screen. I think your question got ignored because this is an uber-geek site, and your question seems a bit of a "noob" (a inexperienced user)feel to it. But I can see how from the outside view this is a very valid question - to most users what is on the screen is the equivalent of what OS or program it is running. Oh and fellow geeks, Please before you waste the time flaming (criticizing) I have tried to paraphrase and make this a simple non complicated answer, don't bother pointing out the exceptions please.
I have already written a complaint letter to the SEC and my congressmen and WhiteHouse. I STRONGLY URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME!!! The SEC is supposed to stop companies from creating monopolies, and buying out competitors for no reason other than getting more money out of the public. The general public benefits much more from having these two companies competing with each other. Please take action instead of just complaining about it here. Just buying your competition in Un-American, and bad for the marketplace in general. Disney and Marvel both should have to innovate and compete like the rest of us.
I have already written a complaint letter to the SEC and my congressmen and WhiteHouse. I STRONGLY URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME!!! The SEC is supposed to stop companies from creating monopolies, and buying out competitors for no reason other than getting more money out of the public. The general public benefits much more from having these two companies competing with each other. Please take action instead of just complaining about it here. Just buying your competition in Un-American, and bad for the marketplace in general. Disney and Marvel both should have to innovate and compete like the rest of us.