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Disney Buys Marvel For $4B

whisper_jeff writes "Disney has announced they will be purchasing Marvel. 'Building on its strategy of delivering quality branded content to people around the world, The Walt Disney Company has agreed to acquire Marvel Entertainment, Inc. in a stock and cash transaction, the companies announced today.'"

423 comments

  1. GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Woooo, time for some more G rated comic movies.... *sigh*

    1. Re:great! by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Informative
      Sounds like it....

      10:32: Disney: Cost savings were not the big driving reason for the deal. What really drives is synergies over time. It will create enhanced growth rate for Disney over time.
      10:33: Iger: Even with DVD sales slowing, movies with strong, brand name characters such as Marvel characters will hold up better than others. "It's not bulletproof"

      -- WSJ coverage of investor call (ongoing) emphasis mine

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    2. Re:great! by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      Does this mean that we can expect to see unending series of cash-in sequels, like Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 3, Iron Man 2, X-Men 4, etc?!? Oh wait...

      It might be morbidly amusing to see how Disney retcons and bowlderizes some of the more questionable characters. G-rated Marvel Zombies? Lobo?

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    3. Re:great! by CodeBuster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, except now Disney-fied and sanitized (look no blood!) to assure parents that little johnny won't be lead astray by those no-good comic books. If you thought that the Comics Code Authority was bad, just wait until Disney sinks their claws into the Marvel brands. I do not see how this can be considered to be good for comics in general and Marvel in particular. In fact, it will probably hasten the decline of American comics in favor of edgier manga and graphic novels coming out of Japan (a trend which was already clearly evident even before this latest deal).

    4. Re:great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lobo is DC...sheesh... pay attention.

    5. Re:GREAT! by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The great suckage.

      I buy no Disney. They are cultural programming of the lowest order. You want a rotten child? Let them watch Disney channel 2 hours a day.

      If you could contrive propaganda aimed at undermining basic human values, specifically that of respect, you could do no better than to come up with this garbage. It is particularly detrimental to the child / parent relationship - always portrayed as a way to manipulate or deceive the old buffoons.

      Disney is death.

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    6. Re:great! by Dr_Ken · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. All the back stories and histories are likely going to fall down the memory hole via retcons until the Marvel characters have the same blandness that you see in the Archie comic series.

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    7. Re:GREAT! by camg188 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Don't worry about that.
      Disney also owns Touchstone, Miramax, Hollywood Pictures, ABC and ESPN. The original reason Disney bought Touchstone was to release non-G rated movies separate from the Disney label.
      Touchstone, Hollywood and Miramax all release R-rated movies including the likes of Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, No Country for Old Men, Reservoir Dogs, The Crow and Con-Air.

    8. Re:GREAT! by ArhcAngel · · Score: 2, Informative

      You do know Disney owns a PLETHORA of media companies. Many of which do some pretty gruesome stuff.

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    9. Re:great! by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      Well, TBH, I'm actually looking forward to a few sequels. Iron Man 2, in particular, could be very good. After all, Spider-Man 2 was superior to the first movie in every way, and they were both excellent films. Same goes with X-Men 1 and 2 (pity 3 sucked balls). Hell, last I checked, most people were pretty happed with the Dark Knight sequel (yes yes, I realize that's DC, not Marvel, but the point remains).

      In short: Sequels aren't necessarily evil. Heck, even ongoing franchises aren't necessarily evil... though studios have an unfortunate history of sucking the life out of a franchise after the second film.

    10. Re:great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just wait for Fantastic Four Four.

    11. Re:great! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering Marvel has had many owners, I doubt this will make any difference. Heck, Disney is probably buying this because its suddenly extremely profitable to make movies based on comic book characters, not because they feel there's a need for a Disneyfied Thor or Dr Strange.

      I know this is slashdot and we're supposed to see every change as being a corporate conspiracy against us, but frankly, Marvel could use some direction from Disney. A lot of the artwork in Marvel comics is terrible. Its a company that always seems mismanaged to me. The Disney people really understand audiences and producing quality produts.

      Considering Disney owns Touchstone, Miramax, Pixar, ESPN, Lifetime, A&E, and a few dozen radio stations, I doubt they are going to suddenly go against the Marvel audience and make any serious changes. Frankly, Marvel is very much kiddified to begin with, so Im not sure what grittiness you're hoping to preserve.

    12. Re:GREAT! by jerwinch · · Score: 5, Informative

      as the parent of a 5 year-old and a 1.5 year-old, i could not agree with you more. the moment we disallowed the disney channel (just playhouse disney -- aimed at preschoolers) and only allowed pbs, there was a noticeable attitude change in my older son.

    13. Re:great! by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      Frankly, Marvel is very much kiddified to begin with, so Im not sure what grittiness you're hoping to preserve.

      It is more a lament for the way that Marvel used to be in the past, say mid to late 1980s and somewhat into the early 1990s, when the material was still edgier and original. I will grant you that for at least a decade now Marvel has been in decline and this latest news seems more like the final nail in the coffin rather than a sudden revelation of how crappy Marvel has become (as others have pointed out in this discussion); but for those of us with fond memories of Marvel comics during our early years, the end of the road to decline is still disappointing for an organization that was once known as 'The House of Ideas'.

    14. Re:GREAT! by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did he immediately start smoking, drinking cappuccino and talking about how the capitalist bastards are going to ruin everything?

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    15. Re:great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that Disney probably understands that they'll ruin the brand if they alienate its core demographic.

      However, it does seem likely that Disney might push a sanitized version of Marvel comics to the under-10s in parallel with the mature themes intact version. Apparently Marvel already has something like this in the Marvel Adventures imprint. "Adventures" seems to be a code word for kid safe.

    16. Re:GREAT! by mqduck · · Score: 4, Informative

      he original reason Disney bought Touchstone was to release non-G rated movies separate from the Disney label.

      I'm pretty sure that Disney itself founded Touchstone.

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    17. Re:GREAT! by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nonono, now we can finally answer the age old question: can Mickey kick Wolverine's butt, all in eye watering 3D!

    18. Re:great! by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      There are Marvel kids board books which show heroes and villains as "just friends" who talk about things like sharing and friendship. That's ok for introducing "Spider-Man" and "Sandman" to an under-3 audience. I recently bought my son (6) some new books and included a Spider-Man "level 2" reader. It might be slightly kiddie-fied compared to the original comic, but it's pretty much as close to a comic book as you can get (while keeping the reading level low). The one he got had Spider-Man/Parker being bullied by Flash Thompson. Parker thought that perhaps he could get respect by bullying others. Then he fought Electro (who was trying to get respect by holding the entire city hostage). When Spider-Man won he realized that he wouldn't use his powers to bully people but to help them. Yes, it's heavy-handed compared to a normal comic, but then again it's targeting a young group of kids. It was pretty good all things considered and I'm going to try to steer him towards the rest in the series. (He already watching Spectacular Spider-Man and Batman: The Brave and the Bold on TV with me.)

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    19. Re:GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No dude shut up! You're making too much sense! Don't you understand that brand acquisition is a trivial process in which the acquired brand name is butchered and turned into the acquiree? Stop trying to act like you know how business works. This is the worst news ever because now Wolverine will be like Mickey Mouse. And parents will all be like "think of the children!" and stuff ahhhh lets freak out nonsensically about how everyone is out to rip our rights to see non-G rated movies away!!!

    20. Re:great! by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 1

      Because Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, Fahrenheit 9/11 and Doubt were completely free of violence and any sort of controversy under the Disney heal. Clearly as Disney-fied as Hanna Montana and Witch Mountain.

    21. Re:great! by kevinNCSU · · Score: 1

      Yea, just like they Disney-fied Kill-Bill when they released it under the Touchstone brand which Disney also owns. Man, you should have seen the original cuts, there was like 30 minutes of her just hacking away at an intern that messed up her latte. You don't realize it's real until the studio police run into the scene. On the other hand it kinda broke immersion in the story anyways.

    22. Re:GREAT! by Cstryon · · Score: 2

      I can agree with the Disney channels being junk (Save SOME shows on playhouse Disney.) but some of the classic movies are very good for children. I grew up watching Disney movies, so did my brothers and sister. We are all fairly successful, well mannered, mature individuals. We are spread all over Phoenix, and still manage to get together on Sundays, and have wholesome family time.

      I want some examples of how Disney is detrimental to the child/parent relationship. And I want examples of how Disney undermines basic human values.

      Let's assume it is true. Is my family the exception that proves the rule? Why is it that my Mom and Dad are very important to me, when I grew up watching Disney movies for hours on end? I'm willing to bet that a lot of this "Blame Disney" and other media bashing nonsense could be plain bad parenting.

      But I will agree with you jerwinch, the suite life with Zach and Cody, is straight nonsense. It's hard to find good TV shows in general, but Disney is not bad as a whole.

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    23. Re:GREAT! by blackraven14250 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think they're talking about the modern channel and its overall ludicrousness. Any entity is going to change over the course of 20-60 years, leading to different types of material being produced, if they're talking about movies.

    24. Re:GREAT! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Those entities don't do animation, do they?

      I have a hard time believing Disney will allow 'PG-13+' animation to come from one of their properties - it's too close to the core.

      I'm picturing Wolverine with sporks.

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    25. Re:GREAT! by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      My daughter did (at least the 5YO equivalent of that).
      Funny thing, the only channels on the SAT receiver with parental controls enabled are the Disney channels...
      Noggin and Sprout are my kids favorite channels, and that's fine with me. (With a side of Scooby Doo and Voltron).
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    26. Re:GREAT! by Khyber · · Score: 1

      "I want some examples of how Disney is detrimental to the child/parent relationship. And I want examples of how Disney undermines basic human values."

      Disney is a thieving corporation that stole stories from other countries and made them their own.

      Kimba the White Lion, for example.

      Also, many Disney movies actively encourage kids to disobey their parents. The Little Mermaid, for example.

      Disney is the enemy.

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    27. Re:GREAT! by KronosReaver · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You want a rotten child? Let them watch Disney channel 2 hours a day.

      It is particularly detrimental to the child / parent relationship

      If your relying on television programing of any kind to teach your kids a positive child / parent relationship, Disney is probably the least of your problems. Imagine the difference if you didn't just plug the kids into the TV for 2 hours a day in the first place.

    28. Re:GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must have trouble keeping track of all of disney's products[pdf].

    29. Re:GREAT! by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

      And now Stan Lee can have a cameo appearance in all of those, too!

    30. Re:great! by Dragoness+Eclectic · · Score: 1

      re: the "edgier and original" 90s:

      Rob Liefield drawing BFGs held by muscle-bound groteques of no sane proportions? The 9000th "mutant massacre" in X-Men?

      Yeah, I'll pass on the "good old days", thanks.

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    31. Re:great! by readin · · Score: 1

      If I had seen anything in the last 50 years that was anywhere close to being as good as Carl Bark's Scrooge McDuck comics, I might take you seriously.

      More than 30 years after picking up my first comics I know which ones are worth re-reading and which ones aren't.

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    32. Re:great! by hazydave · · Score: 1

      They may leave Marvell alone.. after all, given that most of Quentin Tarantino's and Kevin Smith's films are though Disney-owned studios (Miramax, Dimension Films... Disney bought Miramax and Dimension shortly after "Reservoir Dogs" was released), I don't think "Disney-owned" automatically means any loss of blood, filth, nudity, violence, drug and alcohol humor, or any other of those other things that get me to the cinema.

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    33. Re:GREAT! by Mozk · · Score: 2, Funny

      We are spread all over Phoenix

      The Marvel character?

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    34. Re:great! by Steve001 · · Score: 1

      jollyreaper wrote and included with a post:

      Does this mean that we can expect to see unending series of cash-in sequels, like Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 3, Iron Man 2, X-Men 4, etc?!? Oh wait...

      It might be morbidly amusing to see how Disney retcons and bowlderizes some of the more questionable characters. G-rated Marvel Zombies? Lobo?

      Fortunately, Lobo is a DC character (although he was vastly toned down during his appearances in the Animated DCU, including no mention of his origin).

    35. Re:GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm picturing Wolverine with sporks.

      Those are dinglehoppers.

    36. Re:GREAT! by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Mirimax has released some pretty harsh anime translated to english. I think this just gives Disney the opportunity to make a new Toy Story with Spiderman action figure or some crap.

    37. Re:GREAT! by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 1

      I do it by their smell.

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    38. Re:GREAT! by trytoguess · · Score: 1

      My younger cousin (7) watches Diary of a Foodie, and now wants to try cocoa leaf ice cream, fermented in it's own tree coconut booze, and live insects. Also, thanks to the kids show "Cyberchase" he thinks hackers are evil incarnate. Ah well.

    39. Re:GREAT! by prozaker · · Score: 1

      a part of me died today....

    40. Re:GREAT! by Tim4444 · · Score: 1

      Typically not, but Touchstone did make Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Mickey got a cameo appearance in the film and they used the film as the inspiration for a new area of the DisneyLand park, Toon Town. Even that was only PG though so you're probably right.

    41. Re:GREAT! by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Disney is a thieving corporation that stole stories from other countries and made them their own.

      Kimba the White Lion, for example.

      Take some advice from someone who has tried to tally the number of movies they've based on works with expired copyrights: It's easier to count their original works.

    42. Re:GREAT! by masterzora · · Score: 1

      Is my family the exception that proves the rule?

      I don't think that means what you think it means....

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    43. Re:GREAT! by lennier · · Score: 1

      "This is the worst news ever because now Wolverine will be like Mickey Mouse. "

      Or the other way around.

      Now that Disney has adamantium skeleton and healing-factor technology... Bugs Bunny is going to be toast.

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    44. Re:GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another childless basement-dweller with parenting advice. Thanks man, you're a big help.

    45. Re:great! by Swampash · · Score: 1

      I do not see how this can be considered to be good for food in general and McDonalds in particular. In fact, it will probably hasten the decline of American food in favor of tastier Asian and Italian food coming out of other restaurants

      Newsflash, no-one's forcing you to read Marvel comics when there are hundreds of alternative publishers releasing good stuff.

    46. Re:GREAT! by Fluffeh · · Score: 1

      I think they're talking about the modern channel and its overall ludicrousness. Any entity is going to change over the course of 20-60 years, leading to different types of material being produced, if they're talking about movies.

      David Attenborough hasn't changed the sorts of movies he is making over the 60 odd years he has been at it :)

      Slashdot, where any comment is followed by some wiseass just being a wiseass.

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    47. Re:GREAT! by KingOfTheDustBunnies · · Score: 1

      Disney distributes Studio Ghibli films in the USA, and Princess Mononoke was PG-13.

    48. Re:GREAT! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I'm picturing Wolverine with sporks.

      Wolverine with Sporks picture here. Money back guarantee.

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    49. Re:GREAT! by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Expired copyright? Please tell me why FujiTV is getting an 80-episode remake started then which starts airing in September? Wouldn't seem like copyright has expired at all considering it's in production for a new run this year.

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    50. Re:GREAT! by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Considering all existing, and planned, super-hero movies are LIVE ACTION and not animated, how is your question even slightly relevant?

    51. Re:GREAT! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Considering all existing, and planned, super-hero movies are LIVE ACTION and not animated, how is your question even slightly relevant?

      You'll sound less foolish if you google before trying to be condescendingly insulting. Try: 'marvel direct-to-dvd'

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    52. Re:GREAT! by Cstryon · · Score: 1

      So is Arthur Laurents a thief as well for West Side Story? Maybe Karen McCullah Lutz is also a thief for 10 Things I Hate About You?

      How about Ever After? Are those writers evil?
      Taking an ancient tale, spinning the details and making it more enjoyable for the current generation is VERY common practice, and has been for a very long time. Calling it their own, is calling it their version of the story.

      I don't know what The Little Mermaid you saw, but the one I saw showed a disobedient child getting into a whole hell of a lot of trouble, nearly losing everything she loved, because she disobeyed her father.

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    53. Re:GREAT! by blackraven14250 · · Score: 1

      Eh, Dave's the same person he was 60 years ago. I wouldn't expect Gilliam to do anything not somewhat experimental and thoughtful. Disney is made up of a multitude of different people, the majority of which probably haven't even been there for 5. They have a corporate culture that changes. They also have people that don't stay for the entirety of the corp's existence, important as a corporation is largely gonna be what the people working there make it. I don't think Dave has 50000 personalities, 2% of which change to new ones every year, so they're much different situations.

      Side note: GP modded funny?

    54. Re:GREAT! by dkf · · Score: 1

      I have a hard time believing Disney will allow 'PG-13+' animation to come from one of their properties - it's too close to the core.

      I think you're underestimating the power of money. It's probably a safe bet though that such animations won't be done under the 'Disney' brand. (But that's a common thing with big corporations, actually makes marketing sense, and even isn't particularly evil in itself.)

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    55. Re:GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lets not forget how they are responsible for Pirates of The Carribean and Tim Burton`s Nightmare Before Christmas

  2. Bye bye marvel... by CRiMSON · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was a nice run while you had it, Enjoy doing princess disney stories forever more now.

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    1. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Dyinobal · · Score: 1

      It's a shame the Marvel universe is awesome. Oh well though, lets try to stay positive maybe everything they produce won't suddenly utterly suck beyond belief.

    2. Re:Bye bye marvel... by SputnikPanic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I doubt that Disney will interfere much with Marvel's comics, I just hope they give Marvel's movie-production division as much autonomy.

    3. Re:Bye bye marvel... by nomadic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Marvel used to have a good universe, but it has just been mined and re-mined and used up. It is nothing that Marvel did wrong, just eventually fictional universes run out of steam. When you have to "reboot" or "reimagine" your titles every few years you know you're pretty much done.

    4. Re:Bye bye marvel... by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > ...mature-themed comics and movies.

      For certain values of "mature".

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    5. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Forge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If Disney has 1% of the business sense I think they do they will keep the Marvel brand separate and use it as the vehicle for any mature or violent content that come into their possession.

      Of course they could all be drooling idiots over there, in which case, expect to see an Iron-man who never drinks, Wolverine who never kills and Mephistopheles who is just a male version of Cruela Devile.

      However, everything I have seen so far suggest that Disney is run by the same kind of stone cold business men who Make cigarettes. I.e. No concern for the product or the customer except in so far as adjusting either help them to make money.

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    6. Re:Bye bye marvel... by piojo · · Score: 1

      Disney didn't mess with Pixar too much, when they acquired them. If Marvel has a strong leader and wants to maintain its autonomy, it probably will.

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    7. Re:Bye bye marvel... by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just wait until Spider Man 4, in which Peter Parker is involved in a love triangle with Hannah Montana and Nick Jonas. Will Nick and Peter be able to work out their differences through song and dance numbers before the big prom? Or will their constant bickering cause Hannah Montana to fall into the arms of the local bad boy, Wolverine? And if she does, will she learn the error of her ways before he tries to kiss her before they're even married at Tony Stark's big alcohol-free party? And will Zac Efron be able to save her and teach her that the only way to true happiness is dating nice boys, abstinence, and wearing knee-length or longer skirts?

      The possibilities are endless!

    8. Re:Bye bye marvel... by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 5, Funny

      With great autonomy comes great responsibility

    9. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Informative

      Disney didn't mess with Pixar too much, when they acquired them.

      Conditions were laid out as part of the deal to ensure that Pixar remained a separate entity.

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    10. Re:Bye bye marvel... by AmigaMMC · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think anything is going to change on that aspect. I worked for Disney for 5 years and they're not likely to change a winning formula.

    11. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mollog · · Score: 4, Interesting

      These comics came of age in the time of existentialism right after WWII. Many of the original themes, especially for the better comics, were those very adult issues of moral relativism, personal responsibility vis-a-vis society, and other challenges to society.

      We can't expect Disney to extend these adult issues in a format that might appeal to younger audiences. Indeed, we can't really expect Disney to even appreciate the history of comics from that era.

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    12. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      ...princess disney stories forever more

      Hundreds of millions of young girls with paying parents are bouncing off the walls in anticipation of Marvel branded princess stories. Disney suits drool at the prospective profits. Disney is an expert in the premise: It doesn't have to be good to make steaming buckets of money. Sorry old Marvel demographic, you are being phased out.

    13. Re:Bye bye marvel... by evilkasper · · Score: 5, Funny

      That wouldn't be much of a change from Spider Man 3.

    14. Re:Bye bye marvel... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Umm. Disney has earned their reputation for bowdlerized drivel; but they are part of the history of that era(some of their wartime propaganda work, especially the pacific theatre stuff, is "interesting"). They've been around since 1923. Any lack of understanding of that period on their part is simply pandering to tastes that don't like very adult issues, not a product of any historical gap.

    15. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It was even better than that. They promoted Pixar's John Lasseter to Chief Creative Officer of Animation for Disney. So in a sense, it was Pixar that got to mess with Disney after the acquisition. And given Pixar's track record, that's definitely a good thing.

    16. Re:Bye bye marvel... by daringone · · Score: 1

      You obviously have more faith in them than I... well, *anyone*, else does. I can already see the ending of X-Men 4 where all the good and evil mutants get together at the end and like each other with the movie ending in a massive 5 minute song about friendship.

    17. Re:Bye bye marvel... by confused+one · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)

    18. Re:Bye bye marvel... by miliambar · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      For some reason a lot of the people I know seem to think that the responsibility gets transferred to the government...don't know why they think that way

    19. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With great anatomy comes great responsibility

      Fixed that for you... now queue the music!

    20. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Volante3192 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And they have a whole new lineup to work with:

      Princess Mary Jane
      Princess Sue Storm
      Princess Elektra
      Princess Dark Phoenix

      Actually...I'd watch that last one.

    21. Re:Bye bye marvel... by pluther · · Score: 1

      Well, the government does have a lot of power.

      I for one would prefer it if they did act responsibly.

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    22. Re:Bye bye marvel... by chrisbtoo · · Score: 1

      Best post ever.

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    23. Re:Bye bye marvel... by gbarules2999 · · Score: 1

      "I like being evil. It makes me happy."

    24. Re:Bye bye marvel... by jean-guy69 · · Score: 1

      They seemed to be concerned enough to end their cross-promotional pact with MacDonald.
      That happened just after Steve Jobs took the reins.

    25. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      They left Pixar in charge of production, and immediately John Lasseter changed how they do things. He changed to doing fewer, high quality movies, which means no more direct to video. They essentially made Pixar into Disney's animation division.

    26. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I worked for Disney for 5 years and they're not likely to change a winning formula.

      The beauty of Disney's model is that they sell to six years olds; six year olds with literally no memory and no experience of having seen their product before despite its being over 50 years old. It's as if Disney, as a company, is selling into a market with mass collective amnesia. They never need to innovate.

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    27. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'll see a "reboot" of Spiderman where Norman Osborn will be replaced with Scrooge McDuck. Spiderman will need help and will call in either Darkwing Duck or the Gargoyles.

    28. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      Yeah well, "Chicken Little" wasn't very well-suited to McDonald's restaurants anyway, it sounds too much like a menu.

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    29. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Narpak · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which is why Disney-Marvel crossovers, like Phantom Duck teaming up with Wolverine to stop Magneto from stealing Scrooge's money, is going to be such a breath of fresh air.

    30. Re:Bye bye marvel... by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure whether to gouge my eyes out or to clap. Sometimes the future is depressing.

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    31. Re:Bye bye marvel... by jean-guy69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Touchstone Pictures is nothing more than a brand of Disney.
      Under this brand, Disney produced :

      Starship Troopers, Revelations, Ladykillers, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy , Apocalypto, The Prestige,The Royal Tenenbaums,Dead Poets Society,The Nightmare Before Christmas ..

      See the complete list.

    32. Re:Bye bye marvel... by gfreeman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)

      Klingon?

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    33. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You horrify me, good sir.

    34. Re:Bye bye marvel... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Klingons are pansies compared to the Grimm brothers.

      Just ask Quark.

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    35. Re:Bye bye marvel... by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wouldn't worry about it too much, Disney owns Miramax, producer/distributor of such family friendly fare as Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, From Dusk Till Dawn, No Country for Old Men, and so on.

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    36. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)

      Klingon?

      Nyet, they were a Russian inwention.

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    37. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      We'll see a "reboot" of Spiderman where Norman Osborn will be replaced with Scrooge McDuck. Spiderman will need help and will call in either Darkwing Duck or the Gargoyles.

      Or Iron Man could team up with Gizmoduck!

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    38. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As witnessed with "Bambi II" and "The Lion King 1½", you can expect to see more Marvel sequels that will go straight to DVD.

    39. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disney's acquisition of Pixar was in effect a hostile takeover of Disney Animation by Pixar.

    40. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

      I'm giving up being able to mod this article just to say that was a damn nice ST reference :)

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    41. Re:Bye bye marvel... by slashmatteo · · Score: 1

      Nice comment, but there is a flaw in your thinking: you forgot that it is not the 6 years old that are buying, but their parents.

    42. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ubrgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hell, I'd watch them if they were all in the same movie. Or at least the same scene ;)

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    43. Re:Bye bye marvel... by cjpa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      while the Grimm brothers just penned them down from oral tradition. They didn't do 'original' work either..

    44. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a nice thing to hope for, but have you seen Winnie the Pooh lately? "The Tigger Movie"? "Piglet's Big Movie"? "Pooh's Heffalump Movie"? Not to mention all the featurettes on ABC/Disney channel.

      In my opinion these movies have little to do with the world created by A. A. Milne, and have about as much flavor as soggy white bread.

    45. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Sebilrazen · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget Shining Excalibur Pictures, it was a one off production company created to release KIDS when Disney didn't want the Miramax name on it.

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    46. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mixmasta · · Score: 1

      I think I finally understand the Disney corporation, thanks.

      Also, I'm hoping with the Pixar guys a the helm, we'll see higher quality product.

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    47. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering Marvel were smart enough write their contracts such that Stan Lee got screwed (until a court forced them to pay up), I think Marvel knew what they were doing going in here. Of course, what Marvel wants is simply to maximize profits; any good output they've had since becoming a publicly traded corporation has just been a side effect that's lucky for consumers. That should be obvious when they put out the witty Iron Man in the same year as the mind-numbing Hulk movie, and treated them as though they're the same quality. (Though the stupidity infesting the Hulk movie did creep in to the final battle in the Iron Man movie, so there was that thankfully short-lived commonality.)

    48. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention what they have done to Greek mythology and any number of other legendary/historical tales from around the world.

    49. Re:Bye bye marvel... by confused+one · · Score: 1

      You're right, they wrote what is essentially a compilation (with a tweak here, an adjustment there...) Some of the stuff that came before them was quite good too.

    50. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mqduck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form

      I don't generally care for Disneyfication of classic stories, but in the case of the Grimm's fairy tales, it's difficult to say that the stories are better or worse left in their original hardcore form.

      The original stories weren't so much supposed to be entertainment as moral and cautionary tales. Back in the day, the message to kids of Little Red Riding Hood was very relevant: don't wander around in the woods by yourself or you'll get eaten by a fucking wolf.

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    51. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Whatanut · · Score: 1

      I feel fortunate that I don't get 90% of those references...

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    52. Re:Bye bye marvel... by CaptainPatent · · Score: 1

      Wait - Change from Spider Man 3?
      I thought that was a scene-by-scene recap.

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    53. Re:Bye bye marvel... by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "Considering Marvel were smart enough write their contracts such that Stan Lee got screwed (until a court forced them to pay up),"

      Did you read that after you typed it? The fact that they lost so hugely in court means that they obviously WEREN'T smart enough to write a good contract.

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    54. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 1

      Exactly. It is a cause for concern but all is not lost.

      Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miramax sometime. There was some tension between the studio and Disney for the decades that they produced films like Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill or Dogma. In the end, though, they green lit them. Even after The Weisnteins left, there are some great, adult movies that have come from the studio.

    55. Re:Bye bye marvel... by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      Meh... DC Comics' Watchmen movie has blown away any of the comic book films produced by Marvel so far. Some of the X-men films have been pretty good, but none of the other Marvel films have been all that great. I'd prefer they make fewer films, spending more time and effort on the ones they do make. I don't know if the Batman films are really based on the comic books, but the recent titles have been of much higher caliber than crap like Spider-man 3, Elektra, Daredevil, Punisher (2004), Hulk (2003), etc. The other Spider-man films, the Blade trilogy, The Incredible Hulk (2008), and Punisher: War Zone (2008) are all good action movies, but not cinematic masterpieces by any means.

      At least they're starting to get the casting right, I suppose.

    56. Re:Bye bye marvel... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      Just wait until Spider Man 4, in which Peter Parker is involved in a love triangle with Hannah Montana and Nick Jonas.

      Just the thought makes me all tingly down there!

    57. Re:Bye bye marvel... by damien_kane · · Score: 2, Informative

      Naked, petrified, and covered in hot grits...

    58. Re:Bye bye marvel... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that the GP left out Billy Ray as Hannah's understanding, yet firm, dad oozing w/"downhome family" values - you know, ones like having two kids out-of-wedlock (you do know that he wasn't married to little Miley's mother when she got preggers, did you?).

      BTW, does that guy have no shame or what, pimping out his kid to revitalize his flagging career (not that it matters a whit to the the mouse, who will downside both when Hannah is no longer the young female singer du jour)?

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    59. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      Heritic! Scrooge McDuck was a good guy. It'll probably be Flintheart Glomgold.

    60. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Jherico · · Score: 1

      Wait, the Marvel Comics Mephisto is supposed to be a dude?

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    61. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True! They were much more... ohh, what's the word... "grim(m)"?

    62. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they wrote a very smart contract -- a Hollywood-style contract based on giving Stan Lee net profits. That's a traditional way of screwing people out of money, usually via Hollywood accounting.

      Marvel's problem was in their accounting department, which wasn't able to obfuscate the profits. That happens on rare occasion with traditional Hollywood studios, too, you know --e.g., Peter Jackson got New Line to settle his lawsuit out of court.

      By the way, if you're going to be a dick in your replies you should know about that which you speak.

    63. Re:Bye bye marvel... by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "No, they wrote a very smart contract -- a Hollywood-style contract based on giving Stan Lee net profits. That's a traditional way of screwing people out of money, usually via Hollywood accounting."

      Did you read your link? "Net Profits" contracts and Hollywood Accounting go hand-in-hand. So Marvel wrote a net-profits contract without having the infrastructure in place (separate "distribution" companies, etc.) And they couldn't simply "hide the profits" via accounting - that's a no-no in a publicly traded company.

      So Marvel's lawyers were "smart" enough to crib a contract from an industry to which they didn't belong, using accounting principals they don't use. Yup.

      As a side note, when speaking of Marvel the company: if the company has to pay out so much money for breach of contract, then the company didn't do something very smart, regardless of how brilliant one part of it may be.

      As for your last comment, given your reply, I believe my initial tone was appropriate.

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    64. Re:Bye bye marvel... by hazydave · · Score: 2, Informative

      Disney doesn't destroy (or even Disni-fy) everything they touch. Some of it, maybe.. though I don't know if they necessarily made ABC any worse than it already was.

      Keep in mind, they have a number of different studio names for film releases. Sure, if it's a kiddie film, it's put out under the Disney label. If it's a smart kiddie film, it's probably from Pixar, whom they seem to have left pretty much alone. They also own Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, older releases by Dimension Films, and Miramax (acquired in 1993).

      And yeah, that Miramax.. the same company that put out both halfs of "Kill Bill", all of Kevin Smith's films, "Gangs of New York", "Hero", etc... not what most people think of Disney. Not to say that's perfect, but I think they do know from where their money comes. And as the largest entertainment company on the planet, it's going to be hard to live a Disney-free life and still watch TV and film. Or, now, read mainstream comics.

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    65. Re:Bye bye marvel... by discogravy · · Score: 1

      Right now, rule 34 is making someone put pencil to paper (or stylus to graphic tablet, as the case may be)

    66. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Princess Emma Frost, actually I can see her as a Disney character, have you seen the stuff they put out!

    67. Re:Bye bye marvel... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Doesn't matter. Disney doesn't do Mother stories anyways: Cinderella, Nemo, Ariel, Jasmine, and a host of others were all motherless.

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    68. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mirnir · · Score: 1

      Beast vs. The Beast

    69. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just wait until Spider Man 4, in which Peter Parker is involved in a love triangle with Hannah Montana and Nick Jonas. Will Nick and Peter be able to work out their differences through song and dance numbers before the big prom? Or will their constant bickering cause Hannah Montana to fall into the arms of the local bad boy, Wolverine? And if she does, will she learn the error of her ways before he tries to kiss her before they're even married at Tony Stark's big alcohol-free party? And will Zac Efron be able to save her and teach her that the only way to true happiness is dating nice boys, abstinence, and wearing knee-length or longer skirts?

      The possibilities are endless!

      Just wait until Spider Man 4, in which Peter Parker is involved in a love triangle with Hannah Montana and Nick Jonas. Will Nick and Peter be able to work out their differences through song and dance numbers before the big prom? Or will their constant bickering cause Hannah Montana to fall into the arms of the local bad boy, Wolverine? And if she does, will she learn the error of her ways before he tries to kiss her before they're even married at Tony Stark's big alcohol-free party? And will Zac Efron be able to save her and teach her that the only way to true happiness is dating nice boys, abstinence, and wearing knee-length or longer skirts?

      The possibilities are endless!

      And if the wedding doesn't work out, they can sell their souls to Mephisto to get thier marriage erased

    70. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Little Red Riding Hood first appeared in literature in 18th century France and was part of a series of tales penned down by Charles Perreault and his then 12 or so yo son. And the moral has nothing to do with forests and wolves.

    71. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ajs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's be clear about what Disney has put out through their other labels through the years (I'm not holding up any of the following films as anything but examples of diversity in genre):

      • Pretty Woman
      • Dead Poets Society
      • Who Framed Roger Rabbit
      • Good Morning Vietnam
      • Con Air
      • Armageddon
      • The Nightmare Before Christmas
      • Clerks
      • Pulp Fiction
      • Trainspotting
      • Amélie (nothing I can do about Slashdot's failure to deal with Unicode that it displays just fine in the text window)
      • Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
      • Kill Bill Volumes 1 & 2
      • No Country for Old Men (with Paramount Vantage)
      • Doubt

      If you expect Disney to water down Marvel comics, you should probably ask yourself how much watering down they'd have to do in order to bring it in-line with Clerks or Pulp Fiction.

      I don't doubt that Marvel's heyday is over, but that's not a result of the buyout. That's a result of their "properties" becoming far too valuable to "damage".

    72. Re:Bye bye marvel... by blackraven14250 · · Score: 1

      Sounds more like 2 breaths of CO2 to me....

    73. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Wow! 15 films in 20 years. And some of them aren't just cult classics! Perhaps it's time for me to reassess the creative potential of the corporation.

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    74. Re:Bye bye marvel... by chthon · · Score: 1

      The Stepford Cuckoo princesses...

    75. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Phoenixlol · · Score: 0

      Pixar needed money, Disney needed Pixar. Disney has little to no say in what Pixar does and is, until fancy unique animated movies lose their appeal, Pixar's bitch.

    76. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mollog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure but you seem to be agreeing with me. Disney was and is mainstream Amerika; conformist, sanitized, shallow.

      Comics (Graphic Novels) were very non-conformist; sensational, graphic, violent, and celebrating the anti-hero. I have no doubt Disney was aware of Graphic Novels, but their approach to medias was orthogonal to the approach by Marvel, et al, and Disney did not seem to try to compete with the themes of comics.

      For Disney to now take ownership of those very sources of alternative media is to see that alternative media co-opted, and to lose access to those themes.

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    77. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The original stories weren't so much supposed to be entertainment as moral and cautionary tales. Back in the day, the message to kids of Little Red Riding Hood was very relevant: don't wander around in the woods by yourself or you'll get eaten by a fucking wolf.

      Sadly you seem to have missed the actual moral at work. Little Red is red because she has reached the age of menstruation, and the tale is a warning to virgins to be ware of wolves in men's clothing.

      Sexuality, it's for nerds too!

    78. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was you can't tell he is a wolf until you are in bed with him.

    79. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Deskpoet · · Score: 1

      Whoa. Marvel is not, nor has it *ever* been, a source of "alternative media". If you want "alternate" comics, find some Slow Death, Love and Rockets, hell, even Cerebus (or perhaps The Boys, if you're into superhero meta-commentary/farce.)

      I don't know what is more depressing: that you seem to think Marvel produces "alternative" comics or that they are alternative "media". Marvel is NEITHER; they are about PRODUCT, as is Disney. The two corporation were made for each other.

      That being said, I'm dropping any Marvel titles I might have been following--I truly loathe Disney, and won't have any part of their "Disneyification" of culture. That's not a great loss, though: since Garth Ennis left Punisher, what does Marvel have to offer, anyway?

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    80. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not defending him (and have never seen the show), but I thought that I had seen in interviews or entertainment news stories that she was cast in the show before he was even involved. I can't find evidence for that in a quick search though.

    81. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Darby · · Score: 1

      Little Red is red because she has reached the age of menstruation, and the tale is a warning to virgins to be ware of wolves in men's clothing.

      Wouldn't it be more of a warning to women to be wary of men in *women's* clothing?
       

    82. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Omestes · · Score: 1

      IANACN (I am not a comic nerd), but the parent was talking about post-WWII, not the 80's when comic publishing blew up into billions of niche imprints (or worse, the 90's when it blew up into trillions of "edgy" imprints). Back then comics WERE edgy, dark, and post-modern(ish), though I'd put DC as being the more edgy. Before WWII comics were mostly silly things for children, but after WWII they expanded their market towards a more "mature" teenage audience.

      Yes, now Marvel is rather tame compared to some of the smaller imprints (some of which they own).

      Compare this to Disney at the time, which was still catering to children, and was running with cute, and princess fantasies.

      Though now this is all rather stupid. Disney owns Marvel, but Time-Warner owns DC. Disney also owns an obscene amount of media companies, some of which produce products aimed at a more adult audience (Touchstone, Miramax, and Hollywood, for example). Not all of Disney is just cartoons for children, and it hasn't been so for a very long time.

       

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    83. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ajs · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is why I typically don't bother posting to Slashdot about this sort of thing... Why would you expect an example of their genre diversity (which is what I said that list was) would be exhaustive?

      Since clearly you mistook that for an exhaustive list, here's the actual list of films from the Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group:

    84. Re:Bye bye marvel... by antdude · · Score: 1
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    85. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Marvel doesn't own the rights to X-Men movies. Fox does. It'll be more like Ironman dancing with Belle.

    86. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Forge · · Score: 1

      Yes. A mean, evil, slender, effeminate, sadistic male. Check his Wiki page .

      At least that's what he looks like. Since he operated at a level just below the conceptual beings, (Like Eternity), He was only assigned a Gender so that his relationship with Death would make sense without having to explain homosexuality to teens in the 1970s.

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    87. Re:Bye bye marvel... by AmigaMMC · · Score: 1

      The flaw is in your thinking of knowing what Disney wants to do. They have produced their fair share of R rated movies, they're not going to mod down the comics. Ultimately Disney does what the buyers want.

    88. Re:Bye bye marvel... by AmigaMMC · · Score: 1

      Nobody said that was a final list. Where did you read that? If you have so much time to waste go ahead and compile your own list. The guy above was merely giving examples and he succeeded with most people in making them understand that example. But if you want to apply your selective glasses and wrap your head before hitting it go ahead, on my side I prefer leaving the drama to people like yourself and worry about the future of comics when the things you worry about actually happen. Complaining on /. won't make the world a better place.

    89. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Toonol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      non-conformist; sensational, graphic, violent, and celebrating the anti-hero.

      In other words, immature. Aimed at teen boys, like 'mature' modern videogames.

    90. Re:Bye bye marvel... by VoltageX · · Score: 1

      Also some of the 'banned' older Donald Duck cartoons are really interesting.

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    91. Re:Bye bye marvel... by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      To be fair, the Watchmen was incredible source material.

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    92. Re:Bye bye marvel... by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Sadly, everyone has missed the point, which is that no mention of little red riding hood is complete with mentioning Sam the Sham.

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    93. Re:Bye bye marvel... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think we are largely in agreement. I just wanted to emphasize that Disney is what it is not because of age(since, while it isn't older than comic books, it is older than virtually any extant comic, comic universe, or recognizable comic character); but because of a quite deliberate market segmentation/targeting move.

    94. Re:Bye bye marvel... by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      That may be true (I've never read the comic books. I've only recently started delving into graphic novels, though primarily for the artwork.), but then it still means that DC has much higher quality properties than Marvel. That is, of course, unless Watchmen (and Batman to a slightly lesser degree) is just a one-off and not representative of the overall quality of DC's properties.

      Are there any other comic series that are similar in quality to Watchmen, either by DC or other publishers? A lot of the series that I've looked into so far (mostly Marvel and DC) seem a bit formulaic. The artwork is amazing, but the format seems to follow set rules & patterns without much deviation. I guess part of it might be that most of Marvel's properties reside in the same universe, but there's probably still some room for experimentation there.

      It also seems like, in general, Japanese mangas have better-developed stories than American comics. I remember reading Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT as a child and each volume being at least 100 pages or longer—not A4 of course, and the artwork (all B&W) is no where near as good as American comics, but the greater number of panels does allow for better storytelling, I think. I mean, comics like Fantastic Four or Superman, while entertaining in their own right, just don't resonate with me as much as mangas like Akira or Ghost in the Shell. I dunno, maybe I just have different tastes, or perhaps I just haven't really seen all that comics have to offer.

    95. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form

      I don't generally care for Disneyfication of classic stories, but in the case of the Grimm's fairy tales, it's difficult to say that the stories are better or worse left in their original hardcore form.

      The original stories weren't so much supposed to be entertainment as moral and cautionary tales. Back in the day, the message to kids of Little Red Riding Hood was very relevant: don't wander around in the woods by yourself or you'll get eaten by a fucking wolf.

      It's very easy to say that the originals should be told if you understand the real moral of the story: Red riding hood = Don't talk to strangers, some of them end up murdering you and your family.

      Kids need to learn the lesson that there are wolves that do not look like wolves, but are just as scary.

      The hardcore original versions are warnings about the real perils of the real world, with animal metaphors. "Protecting" children from them is only good for the wolves.

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    96. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      See? GP was right, it is a fucking wolf indeed.

    97. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      McFarlen's Spiderman was pretty cool but the audience was not quite ready for how bad villains really could be. McFarlen then went on to I believe Independent and thus spawned Spawn.

    98. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      Zhey vurr ein German inwention you insensitive Klodd.

    99. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So where do I queue up to buy Marvel vs Disney for xbox?

    100. Re:Bye bye marvel... by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Watchmen is a weird property. While based on some characters that were purchased by DC Comics, they were essentially creations of Moore and Gibbons.

      The art of Watchmen is brilliant, but only from a certain point of view. Looked at on its own, it is a bit flat compared to today's artwork. But viewed as an analysis of silver age artwork and tropes, it is amazing.

      There are plenty of works by Marvel and DC that don't suck. I think you might be happier with some of the slightly smaller publishers and imprints. It largely depends on what you liked in Watchmen.

      (See, I'm not always a troll)

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    101. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ultranova · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is nothing that Marvel did wrong, just eventually fictional universes run out of steam.

      No they don't, at least those as big as Marvel, it's simply that writers come and go. Fictional universes become popular if they have good writers making interesting stories for them, so any that's remembered has had a "golden age" at some point. And then the good writers leave or become lazy, and the golden age is over and people say that the universe has "lost steam". It hasn't, the coal guy has simply fallen asleep on the job.

      As evidence, I refer to fan fiction. All fandoms I've ever bothered checking have produced some good stories. Marvel itself has produced a truly obscene amount of stuff, but besides that there's been anything from high-drama Powerpuff Girls stories to epic sci-fi Sailor Moon ones. And of course Lovecraft goes well with anything.

      That's one of the reasons current copyright is so damaging, BTW: it makes it illegal to combine ideas from (an)other author(s) with your own, preventing or at least hindering the expansion of fictional universes into full-blown mythology. Good thing copyright abuse has pretty much destroyed its credibility, but still...

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    102. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Princess Dark Phoenix

      That should be queen. "Black Queen", to be exact.

      Actually...I'd watch that last one.

      Dark Phoenix/Maleficent team-up? With Cruella DeVille as a comic sidekick?

      Awesome.

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    103. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Awooooo- I mean, ba-a-a-a.

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    104. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mqduck · · Score: 1

      It's news to me that we know who wrote the story. It was my impression that the metaphorical subtext was added later...

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    105. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wouldn't be much of a change from Spider Man 3.

      lol. agreed.

  3. great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean that we can expect to see unending series of cash-in sequels, like Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 3, Iron Man 2, X-Men 4, etc?!? Oh wait...

  4. Quoth "Spaceballs": by R2.0 · · Score: 1

    "Oh shit - there goes the planet."

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  5. Boo! by Jedi+Holocron · · Score: 1

    Epic Fail.

    Maybe we can get a retcon. Marvel does it all the time anyhow...

    1. Re:Boo! by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Maybe we can get a retcon. Marvel does it all the time anyhow...

      It wasn't actually Marvel that was sold but a generic clone made by Mr. Sinister. The whole thing was a brilliant plot by Stan Lee to get rid of said lame clone that has made crap comics for a decade and bring back the real Marvel, but little did he suspect that he wasn't really dealing with Mickey but Ralph the Rat who'd escaped Muppets, kidnapped Mickey and taken his place. It'll all come to light when the Great Gonzo comes looking for his errant sidekick, and climax in an epic battle between Kermit and the Toad, who has kidnapped Stan to for him to retcon him into an omega-class mutant in the confusion.

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  6. A good fit by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Marvel... The company that sued NCsoft for making a game in which superheroes could be constructed because some of them could be made to look like Marvel characters? And then it turned out that the most egregious violators were actually Marvel employees?

    Sounds like a good fit to me, I'm sure the companies will be really happy with each other.

    1. Re:A good fit by Jeez01 · · Score: 1

      Cryptic was actually glad they got sued since they used as an excuse to implement a naming policy. I remember playing it when it came out and dozens of half nude Claw/regen scrappers in Atlas park that were named Wolverine2000, Ultimate Wolverine etc, they were an eye sore. Thank god they reset all of them to genericxxx and forced them to rename it to something else.

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  8. Hulk vs Donald Duck by elh_inny · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally...

    Those clashes between Marvel characters and DC Comics ones got boring so now it's time for:
    Daisy vs Wolverine
    Pinocchio vs Spiderman
    Cinderella vs Juggernaut

    If they film any of those I am soo going to see this..

    1. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by starglider29a · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, Kingdom Hearts just got a lot more difficult!!!

    2. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

      Considering DC Comics is owned by Warner Bros., we might finally see Donald vs. Daffy.

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    3. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by MrTree · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...also a comic book adaptation of "Bambi Meets Godzilla"

    4. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

    5. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 1

      I am the terror that flaps in the night...

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    6. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one, would love to see scrooge Mcduck turn up at tony starks parties in Iron man3

    7. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Now I have to download the entire series when I get home.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkwing_Duck

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    8. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I can't believe you guys have missed the obvious:

      Howard the Duck vs. Donald Duck

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    9. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 1

      Daisy vs Wolverine
      Pinocchio vs Spiderman
      Cinderella vs Juggernaut

      Knew it wouldn't be long before a Rule 34 thread broke out. Niiiice.

    10. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no. Pinocchio versus Wolverine. Pinocchio keeps lying, but Wolverine slices off his growing nose.

      And considering that Disney owns the Muppets also. Hulk versus Mrs. Piggy. Hulk calls Mrs. Piggy fat then look out Hulk!!!! *hiii-yah!*

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    11. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't it that tall dude played by Christopher LLoyd?

    12. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by casals · · Score: 1

      As already said: endless possibilities.

      They can now buy Blizzard and launch World of Ducktales.

      As for the movies...

      MINNIE MONTANA

      HERBIE VS. THE DECEPTICONS

      MULAN THE PUNISHER

      MUTANTS, INC.

      AVENGERS OF THE CARIBBEAN

      DARECHICKENLITTLE

      HULKATOUILLE

      THE 101 JONAS DALMATIANS

      THE CHRONICLES OF ASGARD

      FANTASIA (FEATURING THE GHOST RIDER)

      HOWARD THE DUCK GOES TO TERABITHIA

      THE INCREDIBLE GREEN POCAHONTAS

      THE FANTASTIC SEVEN DWARVES

      THE AMAZING BAMBI-MAN

      DR. PETER VON PAN

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    13. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wheres Howard ?

    14. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1

      It's already happened (a piano duel in Who Framed Roger Rabbit).

    15. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by readin · · Score: 1

      I can't wait until Prince Namor shows up in a really vengeful mood to claim the Queen Aria who had been promised to him long ago. First the land-lubbers polluted his ocean and then they stole his bride-to-be!

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    16. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by circusboy · · Score: 1

      Bambi vs. Godzilla?

      how could you leave out such a classic?

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    17. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      at least the slash just got a lot more interesting

    18. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by failedlogic · · Score: 1

      Ummmm ...... no.In Slashdot traditional methodology, here's what is going to happen.

      1. Hulk smash Eisner. Hulk smash Robert Eiger (current President). Hulk smash Mickey. Hulk smash Disney DVDs. Hulk smash Disney Theme Parks.
      2. ??????
      3. Profit!
      4. Hulk bows to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.

      Though I do like your suggestion. It bears further investigation. I'm sure Disney will make all the Marvel characters all whimpy. I'd like a recreation of Cinderella where Wolverine is "Prince Charming".

    19. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by idlemachine · · Score: 1

      Dude, seriously, do NOT give them any ideas for more Kingdoms Hearts sequels...

  9. Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by 1sockchuck · · Score: 1

    An obvious brand extension: Hey, Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman can both sing, right? Kidding aside, Disney execs would be well-served to remember that "with great power, comes great responsibility."

    1. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical

      I wish I could only imagine this as a joke, and not believe it could actually happen.

    2. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Spider-man, Hulk, and Iron Man appearing on cruise ships is just as likely.

    3. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be careful what you wish for.

      Spider-Man On Broadway: http://spidermanonbroadway.marvel.com/

    4. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, it worked for Superman:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_musical

      And there was a Spiderman Broadway production in development.

    5. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Patrick Stewart definitely can:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61AAwNDwU4U

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    6. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      Let's just hope it's not like this, and mayhaps more fun like this!.

      I'm STILL waiting for that movie.

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    7. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by BriGal · · Score: 1

      There's been a Spider-man musical in the works for awhile, so I wouldn't put that on Disney's shoulders.

  10. It could be worse... by vertinox · · Score: 1

    They could have bought DC Comics.

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    1. Re:It could be worse... by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

      They could have bought DC Comics.

      Warner Bros. already bought DC, but that wasn't necessarily "all, folks" for fans.

    2. Re:It could be worse... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Heh, as if. Warner would never sell it in a million years.

  11. Next XBox title by blg42 · · Score: 1

    Marvel: Ultimate Alliance3 -- Donald vs. Wolverine

  12. Oh goody... by gregg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now we get to look forward to Donald Duck and Howard the Duck crossovers.

  13. Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? by erac3rx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All I can say is, if this opens the door for a sequel to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 including all of the famous Disney characters I am all for it. It would be a lot of fun to whoop some Mickey Mouse or Snow White azz with characters from the Marvel roster. You know you want to, just admit it.

    1. Re:Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      It was more a strategic move to add even more characters to Kingdom Hearts.

    2. Re:Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? by rawls · · Score: 1

      So much for Marvel versus Capcom 3.

      I guess that all we have to look forward to now are games like:

      Mickey & Pals become bff with Marvel

    3. Re:Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      This is good news for everyone that has always wanted to see Goofy get bitchslapped for dating outside his species... seriously, Clarabelle Cow?!? WTF?!? Will their children go "moof"?!?

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    4. Re:Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear the Donald Duck/Howard the Duck Super Combo is horribly broken.

    5. Re:Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? by ojintoad · · Score: 1

      I really want Kingdom Hearts 3 or Marvel Vs. Capcom Vs. Disney Vs. Square/Enix to have Wolverine, Cloud, Mickey, and Mega Man.

  14. Now the Biggest Question? by dorkbot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Universal uses Marvel trademarks in one of their Theme Park (Universal's Island of Adventure) in Central Florida. Will Universal continue to pay for these Likeness rights when they are to a rival company?

    1. Re:Now the Biggest Question? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Universal uses Marvel trademarks in one of their Theme Park (Universal's Island of Adventure) in Central Florida. Will Universal continue to pay for these Likeness rights when they are to a rival company?

      Not necessarily. When Paramount used to own Kings Island in Cincinnati, Ohio, the park still had a themed area devoted to Hanna-Barbera, a Warner Bros. imprint.

    2. Re:Now the Biggest Question? by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      Unless they want to be sued, as well as losing some popular attractions, they'll stick to their contract - I.E., yes they will continue paying. Why is this even a question?

    3. Re:Now the Biggest Question? by awallick · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what I was wondering. The Hulk wouldn't be that hard to change into another theme, but what about Spider-Man? That's such a great ride... ugh.

    4. Re:Now the Biggest Question? by k_187 · · Score: 1

      That was changed by the time that Paramount sold it off though. It got re-branded to Nickelodeon. I would imagine that things would stay the same until the current contract period ends.

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    5. Re:Now the Biggest Question? by Blimey85 · · Score: 1

      What choice do they have? Re-theme the rides/attractions? Not likely. That would cost even more and would confuse people. They may not be happy having to pay Disney but they'll still do it.

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    6. Re:Now the Biggest Question? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      That's the *biggest* question you can think of?

      Who fucking cares?

  15. strategy by BigHungryJoe · · Score: 1

    Building on its strategy of delivering quality branded content to people around the world

    that's a stupid strategy. what a dumb idea. It reminds me of Mr Burns - "Strawberry - hit a home run!"

    1. Re:strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Okay, skip" (Hits a home run).

  16. Translated as: by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We've finally given up thinking of our own ideas and as soon as existing licensing deals run out we are going to squeeze the Marvel universe for everything we can get out of it, by giving it the "Disney" treatment".

    Although... Pixar doing Marvel comics? Could be good.

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    1. Re:Translated as: by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      We've finally given up thinking of our own ideas and as soon as existing licensing deals run out we are going to squeeze the Marvel universe for everything we can get out of it, by giving it the "Disney" treatment".

      Hah! The last time Disney thought up its own ideas, they came up with a mouse & a duck with a speech problem. Everything else has been "Disneyfying" anything that won't get them sued.

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    2. Re:Translated as: by trvd1707 · · Score: 1

      I don't know about Pixar... I would hate to see Marvel characters with those balloon big eyed heads that show up on all Pixar movies.

  17. Cool so we will have Cross Brand Cartoons with by Coeurderoy · · Score: 1

    Doctor Strange against the Beagle Boys !

    And Donald Duck will go rafting with wolverine...

    And of course "Moovies": Xmens the clueless episode !!!
    And Marvel theamed movies will always end "cute"

    Somehow this does not seem a good news

    1. Re:Cool so we will have Cross Brand Cartoons with by twidarkling · · Score: 1

      Couldn't be worse than X-Men 3.

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  18. I am so glad I'm not a major comic geek by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    Or at least not very interested in mainstream American costumed super-hero books. Otherwise I'd be dying inside right now. I feel that way every time EA buys up another studio.

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  19. animaniacs versus hulk by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    venom versus goofy

    the lion king iii: a wolverine in the pridelands

    those were the easy ones

    now mash up marvel with pixar

    oy vey

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    1. Re:animaniacs versus hulk by twidarkling · · Score: 1

      Animaniacs is WB, not Disney. So apparently, no, not so easy.

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  20. The bigger these behemoths become... by taxevader · · Score: 1

    ....the more power they have in influencing government policy and society's attitudes towards [insert controversial issue here]. The lobbyists already own Congress.

    This is a Bad Thing.

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    1. Re:The bigger these behemoths become... by mrtommyb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, it might slow the passing of the Mutant Registration Act.

  21. Go Blue? by starglider29a · · Score: 1

    Does this mean that Beauty and the Beast ][ will have Kelsey Grammar as the voice?

  22. can you say "price increase"? by prgrmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thought comic books were expensive now? Wait until Disney ups the price to help recover some of that 4 billion.

    1. Re:can you say "price increase"? by Hythlodaeus · · Score: 1

      I'm surely not the only one who reads an Orwellian twist to the phrase "quality branded content"

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    2. Re:can you say "price increase"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least now I'll feel fully justified pirating my weekly comics. Lately, though, Marvel comics aren't even worth reading for free.

    3. Re:can you say "price increase"? by liquidsin · · Score: 1

      and *i'm* surely not the only one who read that as "quality braindead content" the first time through...

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    4. Re:can you say "price increase"? by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Thought comic books were expensive now? Wait until Disney ups the price to help recover some of that 4 billion.

      For that to make sense, they would need to receive more total profits from higher priced comic books. This, in turn, implies that either

      1. Marvel execs are imbeciles who didn't rise the price despite being able to make more money that way or
      2. Marvel execs are good-hearted people who just couldn't bear to make more than their fair share of profit.

      I'd bet on option 3: Marvel comics are already priced at what will bring in the most profits, and rising the price would lower them due to less sales.

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    5. Re:can you say "price increase"? by prgrmr · · Score: 1

      I'd bet on option 4: Disney is going to change the marketing to go through adults to get to preteens and grade school kids for certain titles in order to leverage the parents' spending power directly and thereby be able to raise the prices without lowering circulation.

      There may also be some of option 1 going on; it would be interesting to see the breakdown by title of subscription sales vs. retail to confirm that. The subscriptions are so heavily discounted--and I'm assuming to get under certain psychological price points--one of the immediate questions that arises is if the difference between the retail and subscription price entirely the retail vendor's mark-up, or not?

  23. Universal Orlando by Ken+Hall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wonder how this will affect the licensing for the Comic Book area at Universal Orlando long term. It's ALL Marvel, including the "Hulk" roller coaster.

    I suppose it'll just continue for a while though, the whole thing is pretty incestous.

    1. Re:Universal Orlando by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      This happened when the Paramount parks were sold to Cedar Fair. They basically just rebranded everything, including the rides, to non-trademarked names. Likely something similar will happen if the Universal Orlando park loses its licensing.

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  24. Batman and Porky Pig by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thank god Batman is DC comics.

    DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.

    1. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by szo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'll take Porky, Bugs Bunny and especially Animaniacs over anything from Disney thanks all the same.

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    2. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gargoyles was produced by Buena Vista Television. A division of Disney.

    3. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Chelloveck · · Score: 3, Funny

      DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.

      And I, for one, am still waiting for the Batman/Porky Pig The Brave And The Bold team-up issue! Come on, Time-Warner, where's the fan service?

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    4. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Requiem18th · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nice you mention that because Gargoyles (and to a lesser extent, Pirates of ...) is the only good thing to ever come out of Disney.

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    5. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by GyroLC · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's The Brave and the B-B-B... The Brave and the B-B-B... The Brave and the B-B-B-Enterprising

    6. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by griffjon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thank you all for not making a slashfic joke

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    7. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Zaphod+The+42nd · · Score: 1

      Pirates of dark water, hell yes. Where did THAT show go?

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    8. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by MrBandersnatch · · Score: 1

      Damn you, stirring long dormant vague memories for me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirates_of_Dark_Water, DAMN!

    9. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Khyber · · Score: 1

      To Davy Jone's Locker. They ran out of money for the show (spent too much on making action figures that didn't sell, plus video games on two or three consoles.)

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    10. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      for want of mod points...

      B-B-B... B-B-B.. B-B-B... Good Job Sir!

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    11. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by JimTheta · · Score: 1

      DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.

      Yeah, since 40 years ago. WB/DC is a known quantity, and citing that relationship to say something about Marvel/Disney is not necessarily germane.

    12. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by griffjon · · Score: 1

      OK, sometimes moderation amuses me. How did that comment get bumped up for being "informative" ??

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    13. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by tepples · · Score: 1

      OK, sometimes moderation amuses me. How did that comment get bumped up for being "informative" ??

      Unlike the "In" moderations, Funny gives no karma to the poster. Alternation between any In and Overrated has 0 net effect on karma, but Funny and Overrated can drain it rapidly.

      Posted without bonus due to meta-discussion.

    14. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by oldhack · · Score: 1

      I notice the popularity of Animanics among some people. I found it to be ADD annoyance from hell, and that was when was, well, less old. Anyway, what's the appeal to those who like/d it?

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    15. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      Amen. I always found disney movies stolen stories, predictable, boring and edging on indescent. Just look at how half the female characters in disney movies dress, it's pretty sad that they want to push that on small children. Warner Brothers on the other hand was always original, funny, witty and well-suited for small kids (aside from possibly anamaniacs, which I still found funny).

      I just hope they don't turn Marvel into the kind of crap they have been releasing for the past 20 years.

    16. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      No, that one was from Hanna-Barbera and Turner Entertainment.

    17. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by wolverine1999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think we will end up getting another Superman now by Disney/Marvel though instead of WB...

    18. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I'll take Porky, Bugs Bunny and especially Animaniacs over anything from Disney thanks all the same.

      Will you take them as edgy futuristic superheroes? I didn't think so.

    19. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by szo · · Score: 1

      Good point :)

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    20. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by szo · · Score: 1

      It's a question of taste and the kind of the sense of humor you have. I guess it can be tiresome if it's not your think. One of my favorite clip is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JJcJIiQq2A

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  25. how does this affect my ethernet chip by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    on my motherboard?

    is disney going to extend the copyright and make the kernel driver extend some hundred years past the chips death?

    will they only let the driver out every few years and then, its 'back in the vault' ?

    maybe I have to find another ethernet chip vendor now..

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  26. Fables by tepples · · Score: 1

    Those clashes between Marvel characters and DC Comics ones got boring so now it's time for:
    Daisy vs Wolverine
    Pinocchio vs Spiderman
    Cinderella vs Juggernaut

    You have a point about Daisy Duck, but for the other two, Fables is DC, not Marvel.

  27. Meh by Pitr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Marvel has been going downhill for a long time. So much so that I consider this deal to be part of a natural progression. Between poor writing and poor management, I haven't seen anything good from Marvel Comics since the late 90s, or maybe early 00s. Some of their movies have been good, some have been horrid. I know "continuity" is optional at best, but you can only "re-imagine" a plot so many times before it becomes complete drivel.

    This deal will ruin Marvel like old mayonnaise ruins a dog crap sandwich.

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    1. Re:Meh by Knux · · Score: 1

      I used to like the Marvel "Ultiverse", but it's amazing how they've managed to screw it up in a matter of months. A few new writers and it's just ruined. The Ultiverse should be a complete reboot of the traditional Marvel Universe, away from the continuity problems, but there you go.

    2. Re:Meh by The_Steel_General · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my first thought was "Whaaat?" but my *second* thought was "Marvel wanted to be a movie studio but couldn't make it work out" - this is probably more an indication of Marvel being in trouble than of Disney really looking forward to getting into the comic book market. And if not that, an indication that Marvel sees movies as its future and being unable to do them internally.

      Although tween boys have always been a demographic hole for Disney, so maybe they're hoping to close it with this acquisition.

      TSG

    3. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a business, Marvel's market cap has grown 2300% since 2001 (%3000 if you include Today's jump). That doesn't seem like a company going "downhill"

    4. Re:Meh by jj00 · · Score: 1

      Marvel has been the little darling of the media recently. They took that loan to be able to create their own movies (instead of licensing deals with Sony, etc), and have more creative control over their properties. I think Iron Man was the first fruits of their efforts (that, or the 2nd Hulk, I can't remember).

      Seeing how well they did with Iron Man, I would completely understand why Disney would want to get in on the action. With the financial backing of Disney, Marvel can take more risks and could produce a lot more mega-hits.

      Of course, this all assumes Disney doesn't mess it all up.

    5. Re:Meh by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 1

      Marvel has been going downhill for a long time.

      I'm sorry, but no. Ed Brubaker? Brian Michael Bendis? Mark Millar? Warren Ellis? The Avengers books, Iron Fist (how'd that happen?), Captain America, Daredevil... They've all been great. Civil War was a lot of fun.

      Even if you don't like their "mainstream" Marvel books, the Icon books are some of the best reading I've ever come across in comics.

      I don't know what universe you're in, but Marvel's been doing anything BUT "going downhill" in recent years.

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    6. Re:Meh by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      I quit Marvel (and DC for that matter) around 2005. They had become total drek at that point. If they DID improve during my absense, that's good, but I bet Disney will ruin them, if they aren't still ruined.

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    7. Re:Meh by dwye · · Score: 1

      Marvel has been going downhill for a long time. So much so that I consider this deal to be part of a natural progression. Between poor writing and poor management, I haven't seen anything good from Marvel Comics since the late 90s, or maybe early 00s. Some of their movies have been good, some have been horrid. I know "continuity" is optional at best, but you can only "re-imagine" a plot so many times before it becomes complete drivel.

      Both Marvel and DC just publish comic books to maintain their trademarks, while their real business is as a store of intellectual property (stories, characters, etc.). Thus, whether their new stories (let alone new characters) are good or bad are fairly unimportant; only the old ones have enough fans to attract initial audiences. Once a movie hits with audiences, the original becomes irrelevant (who cared about the Disneyland/DisneyWorld Pirates Of The Caribbean ride, after the first film came out?).

    8. Re:Meh by Eil · · Score: 1

      This deal will ruin Marvel like old mayonnaise ruins a dog crap sandwich.

      So... it'll be only slightly better but far more fattening?

    9. Re:Meh by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 1

      That's odd... DC Had a really good run from about the end of 2004 to the beginning of 2006... Identity Crisis is why I got back INTO comics after giving up during the awfulness of the '90s. That was followed by Infinite Crisis and its really great tie-ins (Day of Vengeance, Villains United, and Rann-Thanagar War really stand out to me). Unfortunately they couldn't follow through, and with the exception of some Vertigo books, I stopped reading DC a few months after Infinite Crisis ended.

      On the other hand, in the same period Marvel had the House of M storyline (which is hit-or-miss for people), followed by Planet Hulk (which was incredible), World War Hulk (which, admittedly, was a let-down), and then Civil War (incredible), and Secret Invasion (which I really liked, but to each their own), which led into the current Dark Reign storyline. During these super-arcs playing out, we got treated to the best two Daredevil runs since Miller left it (the second of which was arguably better than what Miller did with the character), a complete reinvention of the Avengers under Brian Michael Bendis and Frank Cho, Ed Brubaker taking Captain America and Iron Fist (I mean, Iron Fist? Seriously?) and turning them into two of the best things being published at the time... And then to top it off, Marvel is letting a lot of these guys publish their own creations under the Icon imprint (books like Criminal, Kick Ass, Powers, etc.)--things you normally wouldn't see outside of the smaller indie publishers that are getting the full support of a major player in the industry. Really, there's some surprising stuff going on there.

      That's not to say they're golden... As previously mentioned before, World War Hulk was a huge letdown... They do still give books that don't deserve it the axe (most light-hearted books, like The Thing, Next Wave, She Hulk, etc. either get axed after 12 issues or get their primary talent reassigned). They unfortunately still give Liefeld work... ;)

      There's plenty of good stuff coming out of Marvel... And I'm sure there's plenty of drek, as well... Whether Disney will ruin them... I doubt it. Warner Brothers has pretty effectively fucked DC for the foreseeable future... But Disney seems to be willing to take a more hands-off approach to managing their subsidiaries. The influx of Pixar people into leadership positions at Disney (as well as the ousting of Michael Eisner) is also very encouraging. But we'll have to wait and see.

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    10. Re:Meh by Reverberant · · Score: 1

      Marvel has been going downhill for a long time. So much so that I consider this deal to be part of a natural progression. Between poor writing and poor management, I haven't seen anything good from Marvel Comics since the late 90s, or maybe early 00s..

      Late 90's??!!

      Try late 80's.

    11. Re:Meh by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      I'll see your Brian Michael Bendis (just read Goldfish a week ago) and raise you a Joe "Douchebag" Quesada.

      No more Peter Parker/MJ marriage? I'll pass, ty very much.

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    12. Re:Meh by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      They shoulda ended Planet Hulk by having the Hulk go even further out in space, to never return. How could they follow it up? Rulk? Pass.

      You may want to check out the Sinestro Corps War and Blackest Night if you liked 52. Oh, and Last Days of Animal Man is wrapping up some stuff from that story line (as well as touching on themes raised by Morrison when he wrote the book)

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    13. Re:Meh by idlemachine · · Score: 1

      Marvel has been going downhill for a long time. So much so that I consider this deal to be part of a natural progression. Between poor writing and poor management, I haven't seen anything good from Marvel Comics since the late 90s, or maybe early 00s.

      See, I have the exact opposite opinion. I'm really enjoying Marvel's annual events in a way I never expected to. The stories feel a lot more organic than they used to, the changes are more pervasive and - apart from JMS's spectacularly godawful retcon of Spider-man's public identity - seem to be a lot more long lasting. They feel far more relevant than they used to as well.

      Whereas for me, '90s Marvel comics are characterised by people wearing ludicruous displays of brightly coloured Leifeld-armour which somehow conform perfectly to their oak-tree sized thighs that are essential to keep them from being overbalanced by the mile long barrels on their unintelligible superweapons, running around and spouting poorly derivative (of what wasn't all that good originally) Claremont-babble in a manner we were supposed to find engaging.

      (Actually, if you're after some of that, I highly recommend reading through Jeph Loeb & Aron Coleite's work on the tail end of the Ultimatum line, because that's pretty much the direction they went in. Talk about missing the fucking point...)

    14. Re:Meh by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I stopped reading Spider Man because of that. As I said in my second post, Marvel's not golden--but they do produce some quality stuff. Unfortunately Spider Man isn't on the list of "quality" stuff...

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    15. Re:Meh by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 1

      I am picking up Blackest Night... I'm willing to give DC a chance again. I mostly liked 52... Though at the end I felt ripped off. When they tried the same trick with Countdown, I took my money elsewhere... Still getting Hellblazer and picked up Madame Xanadu when it started (which was one of my wife's favorite books, until they changed writers recently...)

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    16. Re:Meh by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      One trick I've found is to follow writers more and not worry so much about characters. Sure, it should be obvious, but it's something I didn't figure out for a long time.

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  28. Contracts. . . by JSBiff · · Score: 1

    I feel I'm on pretty solid ground predicting that all the Marvel stuff at Universal Orlando will last for *at least as long* as the terms specified in the original contracts between Universal and Marvel. Those terms are probably long enough to more than pay off the rollercoaster. If, at the end of the contract, Universal isn't ready to tear down that particular coaster and replace it with something newer, they can always rename the coaster, and remove the "Hulk" visual elements from the coaster.

    1. Re:Contracts. . . by Ken+Hall · · Score: 1

      I agree that will probably be the case, but when/if it happens it will be a BIG hit for them, it's not just that coaster, it's the whole area, including the Spiderman ride, which is pretty much tied to the franchise. That and the Hulk are big draws, at least till the Harry Potter area opens next year.

      Hopefully the contract is good for a while. It's fun there, I'd hate to see it torn up just because of licensing issues.

    2. Re:Contracts. . . by Rutefoot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When Cedar Fair (owners of Cedar Point) bought up the Paramount branded theme parks a few years ago the new company simply rebranded the Paramount movie themed rides. 'Top Gun' became 'Flight Deck', 'The Italian Job' became 'Backlot Stunt Coaster', 'Tomb Raider: The Ride' became 'Time Warp', 'Cliffhanger' became 'Riptide' and 'Drop Zone' became 'Drop Tower'.

      It would probably depend on the ride, but even heavily themed rides like Top Gun and Tomb Raider made quick transitions with simply removing the respective logos.

    3. Re:Contracts. . . by viking099 · · Score: 1

      Nah. They'll probably contract with General Mills.

      COMING SOON!!
      Jolly Green Giant: The Ride

    4. Re:Contracts. . . by blackraven14250 · · Score: 1

      Jsut about any except Spiderman. It has videos of him, and the ride is based around those.

  29. Fox and New Corp by mollog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hate Fox and Rupurt Murdoch, but they were the ones to push the envelope with media. It's too bad Fox didn't have the foresight to buy properties like Marvel so that the seriously adult themes in comics can be fully developed.

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    1. Re:Fox and New Corp by maxume · · Score: 1

      Marvel never worked real hard at pushing much past mainstream values anyway, and it doesn't seem that difficult for artists who want to put out edgier material to work with the more boutique publishers (it isn't as if the market for adult themed comic books is constrained by printing costs).

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    2. Re:Fox and New Corp by Mix+Master+Nixon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did you SEE the movies Fox made based on Marvel properties? Other than the first two X-MEN films, it's been wall to wall dogshit. If Fox had bought Marvel instead of Disney, the pathetic whining and moaning from people who don't know what the hell they're talking about would be far worse and far more justifiable. Fox never met the property that they couldn't micro-mismanage into oblivion. They're the ones who hired Brett Ratner to make X-MEN 3. Disney will let Marvel do what Marvel wants to do because Disney likes money. Interference with Marvel would poison the brand and with it Disney's massive investment in it. Disney releases of Marvel films will be through a subsidiary company, most likely Touchstone.

      Last time Marvel was owned by a movie studio it was the short lived post-Roger Corman incarnation of New World Pictures. This couldn't possibly turn out any worse than that did.

      Also, Marvel/Pixar = WIN.

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    3. Re:Fox and New Corp by bobcat7677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, with Fox's history of scuttling anything Sci-fi, I would not want them touching any comic book stuff. That being said, it frightens me alot that Disney is doing this. I can't imagine future movie adaptations of Marvel comic stories/characters will be all that good now. If ever I was to support anti-trust action, now would be the time.

    4. Re:Fox and New Corp by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Informative

      I hate Fox and Rupurt Murdoch, but they were the ones to push the envelope with media. It's too bad Fox didn't have the foresight to buy properties like Marvel so that the seriously adult themes in comics can be fully developed.

      Disney bought Miramax in 1993. That's the studio that has released just about every Quentin Taratino film as well as titles like Priest and the Crying Game. I'm not saying Miramax is perfect, far from it, but even under Disney they've released many movies with adult themes.

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    5. Re:Fox and New Corp by Maserati · · Score: 1

      Also, Marvel/Pixar = WIN.

      That's the first thing I thought of. Because that would be fucking awesome.

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    6. Re:Fox and New Corp by skuzzlebutt · · Score: 1

      Ooo....good point. i didn't even think about Pixar. You're right, that has some potential.

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    7. Re:Fox and New Corp by chthon · · Score: 1

      Yep, I found The Incredibles a fantastic good animation movie. Being an X-Men enthusiast and knowing something about the Marvel universe, the movie reuses a whole lot of Marvel character properties without copying them and offering a good story.

      I do not like Disney-as-Disney anymore, but I suppose that the people who are responsible for managing The Incredibles, a) do know the Marvel universe themselves and b) also know that they should not piss off their fan base if they want to sell them something, and probably even c) that they should not try to popularise some titles like the X-Men or the Hulk.

    8. Re:Fox and New Corp by Quikah · · Score: 1

      Disney isn't Disney anymore. John Lasseter runs Disney Animation now.

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    9. Re:Fox and New Corp by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      I just hope that IM2 , Thor and Avengers are all still on!

    10. Re:Fox and New Corp by cocoabeach · · Score: 1
      Holy crap NOOO!

      Look, we all understand and respect Pixar... but that is a match made in hell imo.

      Pixar makes moral tales about relationships and such. And the stories are simplified until every annoying nuance is squeezed out of it.

      Take Wolverine, remove all the grit, take away the moral ambiguity that he struggles with... and what is left over? A furry pile of dog crap (and his claws I guess).

      Please don't assume that what has made Pixar successful is their animation... it's been about their kid friendly storytelling.

      CGI + comics isn't enough to make that a win.

    11. Re:Fox and New Corp by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Disney will let Marvel do what Marvel wants to do because Disney likes money.

      You like money? I like money too!
      You also like sex? Because then we should hang out...

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  30. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... But doesn't Universal Pictures own the rights to many Marvel comic book movie properties? How's that going to work?

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    1. Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by alen · · Score: 1

      a lot of these deals have time expiration clauses. and studios collaborate on a lot of projects all the time

    2. Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by confused+one · · Score: 1

      If that's true, that will just be something to be worked out in the contract details... Universal owns the movie rights, Disney owns the character rights, I see a simple sharing of profits there.

    3. Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was wondering the same thing, and how that will affect the Marvel rides at Universal Studios. Will they have to pay licensing rights to Disney now, and can Disney hike the rates so high that they will have to completely re-theme the rides?

    4. Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by iamjoltman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not Universal (they had Hulk, but that went back to Marvel) but there is still Sony who owns Spider-Man rights and Fox who own X-Men rights (not sure about the other characters that were done before, such as Fantastic Four and Daredevil at Fox and Ghost Rider at Sony).

      Anyway, I believe any current deals will stay, but then when they expire it's assumed that they won't Marvel/Disney won't renew them.

    5. Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by steelfood · · Score: 1

      They probably weren't going to renew those deals anyway.

      Marvel has been successful at making its own films, i.e. Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. In fact, they plan on doing a full Avengers movie, with the major characters having their own individual movies along the way to cumulate in a movie containing all of the characters. See this. Note that the second X-Men Origins movie is going to be produced by Marvel, while the first was produced by Sony.

      I think that's really what Disney is after. Marvel has a huge line up of characters from which to create unending movie after movie. A a media company, they had the potential to become as big as Disney, but for the teenage/young adult market. But it seems that's been nipped in the bud. Unfortunate.

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  31. Duck Trademarks by LaminatorX · · Score: 1

    Pressure from Disney caused no end of problems and weird artwork for Howard the Duck comics over the years. At least there's one silver lining to be found.

  32. Finally! A justification for Howard the Duck! by JoshDM · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not the movie, the Marvel character. Now Howard the Duck will finally be able to admit he's from the same universe as Donald. My inner geek is sated!

  33. Who framed Roger Rabbit? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Daffy Duck vs Donald Duck.

  34. It's a sad, sad day for Marvel fans everywhere by daringone · · Score: 1

    As a fan of Marvel characters (Wolverine being my favorite) I'm deeply saddened by this turn of events. I guarantee Disney won't be able to keep their hands off the properties, and will end up ruining them.

  35. My brain added an extra L by ALecs · · Score: 1

    Which made me wonder why Disney would need an semiconductor manufacturing company? Especially one without a fab.

    Yes, that's right - not all slashdotters care about comics. /me defends his geek card against the ensuing calls to surrender it

    1. Re:My brain added an extra L by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      For Tron 2 of course.

  36. Great news by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 1

    Wait for The Incredibles 2 at any moment now.

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  37. Whoop. by solios · · Score: 1

    They're a good fit from the standpoint that each company comes up with A Character and then proceeds to flog it for thirty years, squeezing every possible nickel out of it. Their characters never die (and when Marvel characters do, you can bet that if they're first-stringers it was done for sales and they won't stay that way for long).

    Outside of Pixar, The Black Hole and Tron, Disney hasn't done much of interest to me - at least not in the sense in which they're being compared to Marvel.

    Marvel is very good at the super hero thing - so good, in fact, that their business practices (rotating talent around books, no perma-death for major characters, etc) drove me over to DC's Vertigo books and independent comics with static, unchanging creative teams.

    I've been out of the target demos of both companies for almost two decades, and while I'll keep a casually interested eye on the acquisition to see how (or if) things change on Marvel's end, I really doubt this will have an impact on the comics I buy.

    1. Re:Whoop. by Steauengeglase · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Uncle Scrooge. I can use the words integrity and Disney in the same sentence without mentioning Carl Barks.

    2. Re:Whoop. by solios · · Score: 1

      Looks like he could be related to Stan Lee.

      Anyone who's boggling about this deal overlooks the one thing both companies have in common: They're ridiculously good about creating a Franchise and hammering them, hammering them, slamming them, pulverizing them.... doing everything juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust short of driving them into the ground.

      Though... Disney has Touchstone and DC (owned by Warner Brothers) has Vertigo... maybe there's a ghost of a chance that Marvel will grow a For Adults imprint? O.o

  38. Re:Cinderella vs Juggernaut by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about the trend towards "Young ___" ?

    Young Cindarella: "Juggy, you're ruining my flower garden!"
    Young Juggernaut: "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"

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  39. Coming soon ... by RoccamOccam · · Score: 1

    X-Men on Ice (Man)

    1. Re:Coming soon ... by petrus4 · · Score: 1

      I'd feel sorry for Captain Hook if Wolvie offered his services to Peter Pan. ;)

  40. what a Shame by OrangeMonkey11 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm just going to repeat what pretty much everyone is saying; f*ck Disney and RIP Marvel

  41. Odds by jmad777 · · Score: 1

    Very sad day...... But bookies should start putting odds on who gets the axe 1st...... Even Odds: Punisher (excessive violence) X-Force (Go back to the no kill Mutants) All the heroines having to dress up (I'm gonna be saddened by that the most) Tony Stark having to give up drinking and womanizing in Iron Man 2 (heh) So the next Incredible Hulk movie will have Mickey mouse calming the Hulk down and trying to reach a solution through talks..............

  42. They own a lot of things... by ZackSchil · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't worry about this news very much. Disney owns a massive empire of entertainment companies that produce programming for all age groups.

    They own Miramax Films and ESPN. They own Pixar. Not everything in their network is Disney-branded and dumbed down for children. Besides, Marvel didn't have any problem dumbing down their products for children before now. Maybe with Disney in the picture, they'll do a better job on Saturday mornings.

  43. Cutification Follows... by gsslay · · Score: 1

    Coming to Saturday Morning TV on a channel near you soon;

    Baby Superheroes!

    All your favourite superheroes portrayed as squeaky voiced, gooey eyed, 4 year-olds. Enjoy their warm hearted adventures as The Baby Fantastic Four encounter a mean-ol' cat in Grandpa's back yard. Thrill as Spiderbaby gets into high jinx on the nursery ceiling! Be dumbfounded as Baby Hulk throws a tantrum!

    Oh yes. Can't wait.

    1. Re:Cutification Follows... by BlastOff · · Score: 1

      Marvel already did this on their own with Super Hero Squad. Just because Disney has bought Marvel doesn't mean anything will change. Disney owns Miramax and I would hardly call movies like Kill Bill cutesy.

    2. Re:Cutification Follows... by chthon · · Score: 1

      Well, the X-Babies do exist in the universe of Mojo...

  44. Mod parent funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moderator gets a -1, whoosh.

    1. Re:Mod parent funny by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      thanks. at least one person got it.

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  45. World War Snow White by hellfire · · Score: 1

    I want to see Snow White vs Hulk. When that woman starts singing Led Zeppelin and the forest creatures start attacking, damn that is something freaky scary! I think the hulk would even turn a new color... yellow!

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  46. You havn't scratched the surface! by Akir · · Score: 1

    Now that Disney is buying Marvel, Disney's marketing department will consume their IP and digest it into other forms. Soon you'll be seeing marvel-themed toys, then marvel-themed sitcoms!

    Oh wait, that's how it is already. Except Marvel's media tends to be more serious.

    Except that wasn't the end; the end is when you go to the dollar store and buy marvel-branded plastic sandwich baggies. You can't get lower than that.

  47. Even Worse: X-Men On Ice... by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

    ...where there is no fighting, and instead everyone gets fuzzy-wuzzy happy feelings for miles around.

    Don't even get me started on the crossovers Deadpool's forced to endure.

    /me retches quietly in a corner.

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  48. Disney aren't idiots by dmleach · · Score: 1

    Disney has always been a diversified company. For years the highest grossing movie made under the Disney umbrella was "Pretty Woman." "Good Morning, Vietnam," "The Golden Girls," and "Home Improvement" are all Disney properties. So are Pixar, ESPN and a line of cruise ships. ABC was one of the first television networks to embrace internet broadcasting; practically all their shows are available online at no cost. They're not anti-innovation.

    Disney has long been in the comic book business, with a history going back to the fifties. Now, to be certain, their content has never been superhero oriented, but they're no strangers to the world of periodical publishing. The kneejerk reaction is that Marvel's going to be ruined because DIsney is synonymous with sanitized, milquetoast family entertainment.

    At its core, however, Disney is a media company. The lions share of their business is in movies, television and music: three segments that are in a tremendous upheaval right now. The past five years have seen amazing changes in the way we get our entertainment. iPods and iPhones, torrents and DVRs were marginal technologies just earlier this decade. Imagine what's going to change in the next five. This is much less a creative acquisition than it is a business decision.

  49. EOA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    should have been tagged 'endofanera'

  50. Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is the price in hex?

  51. Halo and Disney... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

    Lesser known deal - Microsoft owns Halo, and they licensed Marvel to do the comics side of it. Isn't DIsney partially owned/controlled by Steve Jobs?

    Of course, the Mickey MOuse Master Chief series .... *shudder*.

  52. Disney is stealing USA culture! by Greymoon · · Score: 1

    Look for new copyright legislation is any marvel copyrights are due to expire soon.

  53. Godzilla vs. Bambi by grassy_knoll · · Score: 1

    If Disney buys toho we can see an update of this classic...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVwUb9hg4Y

  54. Theme Park attractions? by farnham · · Score: 1

    What about the Incredible Hulk Coaster at Universal Orlando? OR the other themed rides there?
    This is making for soem very strange bedfellows!

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    1. Re:Theme Park attractions? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      What about the Incredible Hulk Coaster at Universal Orlando?

      The Hulk coaster really impressed me, which isn't an easy feat, since I used to work at Cedar Point. I also liked the Spider Man ride, which was very cool for an animated cartoon in 3D. I wanted to ride it a second time without the glasses just to see what was really going on, but didn't get the chance.

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  55. R.I.P. Marvel by kheldan · · Score: 1

    I'm actually glad now that I never allowed myself to become a comic book collector; I'd be extremely depressed now. Disney will likely ruin Marvel.

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  56. And they all lived FOREVER... by Uteck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now we can rest assured that the Marvel characters will never fall into the public domain and live as part of the Disney brand for the rest of time.

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  57. IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO STOP THIS by BuddaLicious · · Score: 1

    I have already written a complaint letter to the SEC and my congressmen and WhiteHouse. I STRONGLY URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME!!! The SEC is supposed to stop companies from creating monopolies, and buying out competitors for no reason other than getting more money out of the public. The general public benefits much more from having these two companies competing with each other. Please take action instead of just complaining about it here. Just buying your competition in Un-American, and bad for the marketplace in general. Disney and Marvel both should have to innovate and compete like the rest of us.

  58. Quality branded content by pluther · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You just need to realize which modifier is modifying what:

    It may look like:
    quality (branded content)

    But really they mean:
    (quality branded) content

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  59. Oh great by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

    now Mickey Mouse can team up with Spider-Man and become an honorary Avenger.

    Imagine the Disney Mickey Mouse characters in Marvel super hero costumes as part of some Cartoon movie spoof on Marvel's Avengers or something?

    I guess Disney and Pixar movies will have Marvel characters in them now, followed by more merchandising and video games than ever before. Marvel vs. Disney fighting movies, Kingdom Hearts sequels will have not only Disney but Marvel characters in them.

    Maybe the Red Hulk will turn out to be Peg Leg Pete or one of the Beagle Boys?

    Darkwing Duck will follow Howard the Duck to the Marvel Universe and get his own Marvel comic book.

    In the Marvel universe a few of the alternative Earths will be Disney Earths now.

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    1. Re:Oh great by petrus4 · · Score: 1

      now Mickey Mouse can team up with Spider-Man and become an honorary Avenger.

      I'm looking forward to Donald Duck becoming the Hulk's new sidekick, personally. ;)

      If you don't understand the reference, watch some of Donald's old cartoons; the single main thing he was known for was his temper.

    2. Re:Oh great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now Mickey Mouse can team up with Spider-Man and become an honorary Avenger.

      I'm looking forward to Donald Duck becoming the Hulk's new sidekick, personally. ;)

      If you don't understand the reference, watch some of Donald's old cartoons; the single main thing he was known for was his temper.

      Hmm, I find the prospect of Donald Duck hulking-out when he looses his temper to be oddly intriging. Duck Smash!

    3. Re:Oh great by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

      They did a video game called Donald Duck: Quack Attack and when he gets mad he does a Quack Attack on his enemies. It is not quite Hulking out but it is Donald Duck losing his temper.

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  60. As foretold by the Beautiful South by wickerprints · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Like the toupee on a fading fame
    The final whistle in a losing game
    Thick lipstick on a five year old girl
    It makes you think it's a plastic world

    A plastic world and we're all plastic too
    Just a couple of different faces in a dead man's queue
    The world is turning Disney and there's nothing you can do
    You're trying to walk like giants
    but you're wearing Pluto's shoes

    And the answers fall easier from the barrel of a gun
    Than it does from the lips of the beautiful and the dumb
    The world won't end in darkness, it'll end in family fun
    With Coca Cola clouds behind a Big Mac sun "

    Surely this must be a sign of the Apocalypse...?

  61. Maybe Marvel will change Disney by kenp2002 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps Marvel will help Disney with their "anti-two parent home" rage. Disney has always HATED two parent families.

    Don't believe me?

    Where are Donald's nephews parents?
    Ariel's mother?
    Goofey's Wife?
    Scrooge's Parents?
    Mickey's?
    Miney's?
    That little brat from Tailspin?
    Jasmine?

    I mean holy crap they hate parents apparently they are either dead or MIA!

    Marvel has plenty of Parents, Kids, Grandkids, hell whole genetic lineages running through the ages.

    Perhaps, just maybe, Disney will learn from Marvel... we can hope some day for an answer to the anti-parent obsession the Disney corp has...

    Stop teh h8 Disney! Stop teh h8! :)

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    1. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by Zashi · · Score: 1

      I think it has to do with the fact that it's hard to have adventures when you have a stable home life.

      Usually the mother is missing. Mom = loving, emotional security, and a total cockblock to dangerous, age-inappropriate fun.

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    2. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      This isn't a Disney-only phenomenon. My sons like watching Max and Ruby. Near as we can tell, Ruby is the "parent" in that household. They have a grandmother who lives nearby but in a different house. There's a painting in one scene depicting Max and Ruby with two older individuals. My wife and I think that there is a very dark back story to this kids show.

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    3. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by sycorob · · Score: 2, Informative

      You missed a huge one: Bambi's mom! They gunned her down in the first half hour of that movie.

      And then his dad just randomly shows up later in the movie, for one conversation. Bambi pretty much raised himself, in the mean meadows of his world.

    4. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 3, Informative
      I hope you're being sarcastic:
      • Spider-man (no parents, father-figure/uncle dies violent death)
      • Hulk (abusive father who beats mother to death)
      • Wolverine (possibly illegitimate, most of family kills each other)
      • Daredevil (mother abandons him at an early age, alcoholic father dies a violent death)
      • Professor X (father dies, abusive step-father, his son & step-brother become super-villains)
      • Storm (parents die, grows up on the street)
      • Cyclops (loses parentsat a young age, grows up in an orphanage, daughter is from another timeline, son taken from him & grows up in the future)
      • Cable (see Cyclops)
    5. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think there is a logical reason for that. If you are writing a story with child protagonists, you have to create some plausible reason why they are acting, for the most part, alone. You don't have many options there. Either you put the parents in prison, make them assholes, remove one parent to make the other unavailable, kill them both, abscond them to a far off land, etc.

      Otherwise, the reader/viewer will just be thinking, umm, why can't their parents do that? This is not unique to Disney, it is common for any literature with children protagonists. Examples:

      Harry Potter,
      Golden Compass/His Dark Materials
      The Goonies
      The Explorers

      etc.

    6. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by ImNotAtWork · · Score: 1

      Don't forget they outright murdered Bambi's mother on screen.

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  62. A plethora... by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

    You do know Disney owns a PLETHORA of media companies. Many of which do some pretty gruesome stuff.

    Jefe, do you know what a plethora is?

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    1. Re:A plethora... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Informative

      .... overabundance; excess: a plethora of advice and a paucity of assistance.

      Yes, I think he used the word correctly, even giving link to it.

      On the other hand ... Beware the Imposter! You can clearly see, he can't even spell his nick right.

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    2. Re:A plethora... by ZaMoose · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?

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    3. Re:A plethora... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      .... overabundance; excess: a plethora of advice and a paucity of assistance.

      Yes, I think he used the word correctly, even giving link to it.

      Man, you're no fun at all.

      ZaMoose got it. Do people not remember that movie any more?

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    4. Re:A plethora... by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      It's in the Monster Manual, along with the dreaded 'gazebo'.

  63. Ugh! by chord.wav · · Score: 1

    Imagine Wolverine sharing the parade with Mickey at Disney Land...

  64. Re:Cinderella vs Juggernaut by jmorkel · · Score: 1

    Young Cinderella: "Juggy, you're ruining my flower garden!"

    That's what she said!

  65. and nothing of value was lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they both are trash.

  66. One word: Spider-Goofy by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Funny

    As he web slings around town he shouts "AHH-HOO-HOO-WEEE".

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  67. The Punisher's t-shirt by oDDmON+oUT · · Score: 1

    Will be sporting a new pair of ears very soon.

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  68. How often does Disney buy Marvel? by AP31R0N · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Daily? Weekly?

    Looks to me that Disney is buying Marvel just once, not habitually. Perhaps the headline should be "Disney Bought Marvel" or "Disney Will Buy Marvel Tomorrow".

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    1. Re:How often does Disney buy Marvel? by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 1

      Umm good job you stupid fucking idiot. I hope you had fun playing the grammar nazi, but guess what, "Disney Buys Marvel" is a perfectly acceptable way to express the event of Disney purchasing Marvel once, in an active voice. Go back to whatever fucking country you're from where English isn't taught and stop turning slashdot into the Third Fucking Reich.

  69. Marvel Babies! by catdevnull · · Score: 1

    Can't wait to see the new "Marvel Babies" series. Baby Spiderman and Baby Wolverine in wacky preschool misadventures.

    Could be worse, though. George Lucas could have bought 'em.

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    1. Re:Marvel Babies! by petrus4 · · Score: 1

      Could be worse, though. George Lucas could have bought 'em.

      "Hedgewort, Heggle..."

      "HULK!"

      "Yes... Gaaahh, what happened to you?"

      "Now Hulk throw Jareth in Bog of Eternal Stench!"

    2. Re:Marvel Babies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to wait? Marvel has been doing Baby productions for decades.

    3. Re:Marvel Babies! by ImNotAtWork · · Score: 1

      I think Marvel has already done dorky stuff with their trademark properties can you really say Marvel Babies would be any worse than Peter Porker as Spider Ham http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Ham

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  70. Say goodbye to fantastic and EPIC hero flicks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happened to Tim Burton's Batman is now going to happen to Spidey. Well. Ces't la vie, it was nice while it lasted.

  71. There's two sides to this... by zuriel7 · · Score: 1

    I gotta look on both sides of this issue. 1) I'm disappointed - the movies have been great lately, especially out of Marvel Studios. I pray they keep that creative genius constant - don't fire anyone. 2) On the flip side, I can't think of anyone who I'd rather have building a brand new theme park with nothing but Marvel Characters. Universal did a decent job, but if anyone has the money, guts, space, and Imagineering to pull off a truly twenty-first century full sensory experience that's pure Marvel, Disney would be my first hope. I hear they were thinking of putting together a new park in Orlando/Kissimmee anyway. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

  72. Oh hell yes! by BigWhiteGuy_27 · · Score: 0

    Finally, I can have my Hannah Montana versus Wolverine crossover!

  73. Universal Studios Rides? by saboola · · Score: 1

    Would this have any effect on the licensing of the Marvel characters to the Universal Studios Theme Parks? Seeing as how Disney is in direct competition with Universal in the theme park business, I think it might. The Islands of Adventure park is literally half Marvel.

  74. Forget that, I wanna see Marvel/Kingdom Hearts by gmezero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kitty Pride vs The Heartless

  75. Bring on Image and Dark Horse by Halotron1 · · Score: 1

    Time to switch your Spiderman subscription to Spawn before the Cinderella crossover series starts.

  76. Ob by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    That's a lot of dried milk!

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  77. Why complain? Wasn't too kiddie friendly already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I stop reading xmen or any marvel comic when they changed the gritty dirty ink artwork into the pokemon clean cut manga style. Not all manga is bad, there are several styles out there but they picked up the worst for the storyline and characters. It really bugs the hell out of me when they turn mature complex characters into teens or even kids like Ironman.

  78. More Info by whisper_jeff · · Score: 1

    Some more information on the deal.

    The long and short of it is that this sounds a lot like the Disney/Pixar relationship.

    Also, the idea of Marvel and Pixar talking to each other and being excited about the talks really interests me.

  79. A couple of things, here... by WheelDweller · · Score: 0

    As has been suggested by others, this will change Marvel. Rather than paint smiley faces on Silver Surfer and the rest, it might just make it darker; more characters might have to become gay, and doing story lines never conceived by mortal man.

    But other things might happen too, if they're smart.

    Remember that AOL/Time-Warner owns Bugs Bunny and friends, despite their legendary acceptance and self-identification, yet AOL never though to theme itself with the characters: how blind can these folks be?

    So while this might be an attempt to buy the bigger names, many of them will go unused. One thing's certain: it's gonna be interesting!

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  80. Bad cross-blend by romrunning · · Score: 1

    Soon at your local shop: Winnie the Blob, with Tony Stark as a very twisted Christopher Robin...

  81. I sense a great disturbance... by fooslacker · · Score: 1

    It is as if a million nerd voices cried out all at once and then went suddenly silent...as sobbing and whimpering emerges from the basements of America.

  82. 75 of what? by 3247 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Disney Buys Marvel For $4B" - That's 75 in decimal. But 75 of what?

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    1. Re:75 of what? by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

      that would be four billion dollars to those of us who speak human!

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    2. Re:75 of what? by revxul · · Score: 1

      Share holders will get, in addition to cash, .75something of a Disney share for every Marvel share they owned.

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    3. Re:75 of what? by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      Obviously I'm not reading it right...

      I'd understand that as 4 dollars in binary, but of course there is no 4 in binary, so that doesn't make sense.

      From where did you get 75?

  83. Uh Oh by revxul · · Score: 1

    My spider sense is tingling. Something bad is about to happen.

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  84. What's Wolverine going to do now? by WoWo · · Score: 0

    What's Wolverine going to do now? Tickle his enemies to death?

  85. Scarlet Witch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't really give a shit about this merger. I can only hope they bring back Wanda the Scarlet Witch (the 60's version with the tight outfit, long gloves, go-go boots, big hair and a lot of makeup).

    1. Re:Scarlet Witch? by Halotron1 · · Score: 1

      I think that's coming up soon, since Disney will likely buy Archie comics next, and have a Scarlet Witch / Sabrina the Teenage Witch crossover.

  86. You could imagine this by paulo.ortolan · · Score: 1

    http://fsb.zedge.net/content/9/9/5/8/1-2487054-9958-t.jpg Found using google! Imagine a crossover with Howard, the Duck with Donald Duck!

  87. rawstory.com had Wolvie Mouse graphic for story... by leftie · · Score: 3, Funny
  88. I'm glad Fox got shut down on this by leftie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fox News potentially getting it' hands on the Captain America property!?!

    Nonono. That must be prevented at all costs.

    1. Re:I'm glad Fox got shut down on this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  89. Get Miley Cyrus to play Ben Grimm's girlfriend. by leftie · · Score: 2

    Sam Raimi decides to bring the Fantastic Four into Spidey 4 for a big crossover storyline.

    SR: "Who will we cast to play Spiderman's red-headed girlfriend? I know. Kirsten Dunst!"

    ---

    SR: "Who will we cast to play Spiderman's blonde haired love interest?"

    Is Ron Howard available?

    No... he's in Rumania directing "Apollo Splashdown"

    SR: "Then get someone else in the Howard family. I must those famous Howard hair genes playing Gwen Stacy"

    ---

    SR:"We need to recast Alicia Masters. Tim Story really messed up casting that part for the FF movies. I just don't see Kerry Washington as Ben Grimm's girlfriend. Get me Miley Cyrus' agent. Get her in here to read for the Alicia Masters role...."

  90. Animation? Who cares? by WED+Fan · · Score: 1

    Those entities don't do animation, do they?

    Who cares? Super hero animation is stuck on TV, poorly done, and not scripted nearly as well as the comic books from which they spring

    We haven't gotten much further than Casey Kasem doing his, zoinks, Robin voice.

    Even though live action comic book adaptations are still inferior to the original product, the old campy Batman and Robin series is still superior to the animation that is going on now.

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    1. Re:Animation? Who cares? by dosius · · Score: 1

      You do remember "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm", don't you?

      -uso.

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    2. Re:Animation? Who cares? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Who cares? Super hero animation is stuck on TV

      no, it's mostly direct-to-DVD. Check out Netflix.

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    3. Re:Animation? Who cares? by WED+Fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And those DVD's play where? They are some of the worst part of the Japanese animation that some think of as ubercool. The story lines are still adolescent quality with nothing that drove the revolution into the graphic novels and bleeding edge.

      If they had one scintilla of a real Frank Miller, instead of paying a passing homage, then maybe I'd given them respect.

      Let me put it plainly, so you can see where you went wrong:

      The current crop of anime compared to where comics have gone, is the same as where SyFy is compared to true SF.

      It is a pale, cheap, flimsy excuse, with a direct-to-DVD quality that doesn't fulfill the promise of the characters that it rapes for the money.

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    4. Re:Animation? Who cares? by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      the old campy Batman and Robin series is still superior to the animation that is going on now.

      Really? Really?
      The DC animated universe of
      Batman: The Animated Series
      Superman: The Animated Series
      The Batman/Superman Hour
      Batman Beyond
      Justice League
      Justice League Unlimited

      Hmm, maybe you mean *Now* I liked the recent Death of Superman movie, the Spectacular Spiderman, the animated Dr. Strange...

    5. Re:Animation? Who cares? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes, I see your point. I don't worship at the altar of Frank Miller. Not bad, but I find his penchant for melodrama gets in the way of the story.

      Believe it or not, Justice League: New Frontiers (2008) and Wonder Woman (2009) are getting lots of great reviews. Good comic films don't have to be bleeding-edge to be well-done. I know there's a Comic-Book-Guy cadre that measures greatness by the metric volume of blood in the story, but that's not the top criteria for the majority of the audience.

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  91. iron man was pretty good by ProfBooty · · Score: 1

    certainly not as good as the new batman movies, but pretty good for a comic book movie.

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  92. Can you imagine the ducks! by readin · · Score: 1

    I'm salivating over the thought of Howard the Duck vs. Scrooge McDuck! Or maybe a team-up with the two of them! Somebody call Don Rosa!

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  93. A Dark Day by dcollins · · Score: 1

    That's a dark fucking day. Disney is the rot at the heart of America. I can totally tell the difference in other properties Disney has bought (look at what's been done with the Muppets since they bought). They had a good run, though.

    Now watching X-Men: Evolution on Hulu.com, best cartoon ever.

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  94. Re:rawstory.com had Wolvie Mouse graphic for story by Mozk · · Score: 1
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  95. The X-Men... by Nyckname · · Score: 1

    is a Mickey Mouse operation.

  96. The Sales meeting... by deltharius · · Score: 1

    "Marvel, you just celebrated 70 years of publishing comics, what are you going to do now?"
    "Weâ(TM)re going to Disneyland! Waitâ¦noâ¦that wasnâ(TM)t a legally binding sales agreementâ¦noooooooâ¦."

  97. Re:Finally! A justification for Howard the Duck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, the real Howard the Duck is no longer at Marvel comics. He's been replaced by a clone! (Heh.)

    See, what happened was that Steve Gerber was asked by Marvel to do a Spider-man/Howard the Duck crossover, which roughly coincided with a Savage Dragon/Destroyer Duck event over in Image Comics-land.
      Savage Dragon's creator, Erik Larsen suggested a kind of crossover-in-a-crossover gag, where the two crossover pairs would bump into each other in a darkened room. Surprisingly, Marvel agreed that it was okay.

      During the run-up, though, Marvel screwed Steve Gerber over yet again - they had agreed to let him have control over Howard once more, but then smelled money and started up more Howard books without Gerber's consent.
      Gerber was furious, and called up Erik and told him. Erik said "Hey, I know what I'd do." and made a suggestion to change things in the Savage Dragon crossover slightly.
      In the end, the real Howard (and Beverly) is yanked away from the unseen Spider-man, who leaves with a fake from another universe. Howard and Beverly enter the witness protection program, as "Leonard the Duck" and "Rhonda Martini" and happily retire into the Image Comics universe. Marvel can do whatever they want, but the real Howard is safe from their clutches.

      Details can be found in the back pages of the Savage Dragon/Destroyer Duck crossover.

  98. Oooh! I can smell a "South Park" episdode brewing by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow. Marvel has sucked at controlling its rights. They fling their lawyers around like idiots with dice. Remember "Marveloution" back when they tried to buy up all the comic book distributors and have their own little "Marvel" stores?

    Fail. They were too inept. Bit off more than they could chew. The screwed up the comics industry but good so that it took nearly a decade for everybody to get back on their feet.

    Now Disney, on the other hand. . .

    They know how to suck the soul out of a property and employ slave labor in China to make toys in a manner only Todd McFarlane could fantasize about! Oh yes indeedy! --The seedy beginnings of Marvel, (Didja know it sprang from the same family publishing um. . , 'empire' from which the classy skin-mag "Hustler" grew? Now you do. You're welcome.), all the way through their never quite taken seriously by 'real' publisher trajectory. . , that's what makes Marvel Marvel.

    And that's why Marvel has always felt edgy and honest, (if adolescent and stupid half the time) and all kind of held together with spit and. . , well, staples. It's been run by a long succession of people who don't fit into respectable society and who don't really understand business, --and who had a lot of fun (and a lot of burn-out) as a result. For all its warts, I love Marvel. --While Disney is pretty much an evil entity; It has no character and no soul except the practiced gleaming smile of a charming sociopath. --Hopefully they'll catch whatever Marvel has, get the shakes and die. But I'm not holding my breath on that.

    I hope comic shops don't change too much. Comic shops are one of the few paper media outlets which don't feel like they've sold out. (They would have if they could, and heaven knows they've tried, but the truth is, they've never had any capital the rest of the world really wants or understands, and so selling out hasn't been a serious option until these movies started coming out. Until then they had nothing to sell but adolescent power/sex fantasies and the occasional gem tagging along for the ride. If Disney gets its teeth in, do we really think that people like Jeff Smith and Dave Sim could have done their thing?) Hopefully Manga will keep things creepy and weird enough to prevent the grown ups from tidying up.

    After all, there's a dark and a light side to everything. Maybe Disney won't screw it up.

    Heh. Yeah. . . You gotta have a dream.

    -FL

  99. Marvel was also a rival company. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So your question not only makes no sense, it brings into question the intelligence of those who modded your question "Interesting."

  100. And the big... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Get even bigger.

    More $ to buy even more laws restricting fair use.

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  101. Marvel Has Nothing To Teach But A Lot To Learn by westlake · · Score: 1

    I have a hard time believing Disney will allow 'PG-13+' animation to come from one of their properties - it's too close to the core.

    The Incredibles out-Marveled Marvel.

    Wall-E went home with the 2009 Hugo Award for best long form drama. Not to mention a Nebula, an Oscar and a Saturn.

  102. Maybe he was referring to theme park rights? by John3 · · Score: 1

    Universal Orlando has Islands of Adventure which has Spiderman, Hulk, and Dr. Doom rides as well as tons of licensed Marvel merchandise in the shops. Disney might wind up getting some of the licensing revenue for that section of the park, but I'd bet Universal has "lifetime" rights to keep the rides. So Disney may not be able to create any Marvel-themed rides in their parks, or at least not based on those three characters.

    I have not yet seen any articles addressing how this deal affects the theme parks.

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  103. Marvel has been dead for twenty years... by rogerdr · · Score: 1

    This will just insure that it remains lurching forward, arms extended, and sniffing at potential sources of new brains for generations to come. Let them and Disney both die. But what do I know? I've been reading Heavy Metal for thirty years.

  104. Maybe so by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    Maybe so where the hard core are concerned, but their properties can still be processed for mass consumption.

  105. GREAT? No... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    Amazing, Incredible, Fantastic, Uncanny, Spectacular, EXCELSIOR!!!

  106. Move over Wolverine, Squeak is in the house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He can hear for 10 miles and has adamantium teeths

  107. Four feet a week - three seconds of film by westlake · · Score: 1

    I mean holy crap they hate parents apparently they are either dead or MIA!

    Character animation at the highest level is an extraordinarily rare talent. It takes a long time, it eats up a lot of money:

    hermonir: What is the animation quota? How much final character animation does an animator produce in a week?
    aorrelle: Four feet per week - about three seconds.
    Working for Pixar

    Characters who contribute nothing essential to the story are cut.

    Disney characters aren't bound by canon but by the needs of the story.

    Mickey can be the innocent of the Sorcerer's Apprentice. He can be equally adept playing mind games with The Phantom Blot on the daily comic pages.

    DC and Marvel blow things up every ten years or so when continuity has become a trap. It doesn't always work out they way they plan.

    Readers remain loyal to the dearly departed.

    The classic Disney tale is a "coming of age" story:

    Pinocchio can have the life of a boy or the immortality of the puppet.

    He can't have both.

    The decision is the most important he will ever make and it is essential that it make it on his own.

    That is why the parent or guide or guardian must be removed from the picture.

  108. Wolverine+Donald Duck==? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm trying to imagine how the "Berserker Quack" will work, and it ain't pretty...

  109. Disney Zombies vs. Marvel Zombies by TastelessGarbage · · Score: 1

    You laugh, but I'd buy the comic, and the day may come when sales projections become irresistible.

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  110. Mod parent up informative by JoshDM · · Score: 1

    At least for the Howard the Duck info. If there are any late mods reading this. Much appreciated.

  111. Finally by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 1

    Now we can, at last, have the much anticipated Mary Poppins / Wolverine smackdown.

  112. Who created the Grimm tales? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Zhey vurr ein German inwention you insensitive Klodd.

    I know, but all the Germans on Star Trek were Nazis, so nobody on Star Trek ever claimed anything was German.

    Well, except for that one guy who felt that the Nazis had been really quite good at what they did, and decided to re-shape an alien society in their image (down to the most minute details) because it seemed the most effective way to get them to be productive and also what could possibly go wrong?

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  113. Marvel's MAX imprint? by OnomatopoeiaSound · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately I am at work so do not have time to read through the thread to see if this has been mentioned with any seriousness, but whatabout MAX? Disney has a history of not being affiliated with anything overly violent or "adult". I don't see most of Marvel's comics changing too much, if at all, as a result of this acquisition - sureley Disney wouldn't want to mess with a good thing. Or at least a relatively decent thing depending on the writer, artist, editor, etc. But the MAX imprint has a history of being more adult - more violent, more swear words, the occasional nudity (though I might be confusing MAX with Vertigo on this part). Now I am not one who thinks a comic can't be adult or good without violence, nudity, etc. but it is refreshing once in a while, to be honest. It feels more gritty and realistic once in a while. Does anybody know of any examples where Disney acquired a company and the company all of a sudden changed their content? Though the majority of Disney now is pap (in my opinion) they have made great things in the past. I have fond memories of their movies from when I was growing up, and the series Gargoyles remains to this day one of my favourite cartoon series. I don't like this acquisition but as long as the stories and characters don't change drastically or in such a way that lessens my perceived quality of them I will still continue to read Marvel. Ah, who am I kidding, I'll still keep reading even if everything does change for the worse, just so I can complain about it. Though I must say, as mentioned in a recent Something Positive strip, I would love to see a Spider-Ham/Darkwing Duck crossover come out of this.

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  114. It Aint over Til its over 'Nuff Said! by BuddaLicious · · Score: 1

    I have already written a complaint letter to the SEC and my congressmen and WhiteHouse. I STRONGLY URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME!!! The SEC is supposed to stop companies from creating monopolies, and buying out competitors for no reason other than getting more money out of the public. The general public benefits much more from having these two companies competing with each other. Please take action instead of just complaining about it here. Just buying your competition in Un-American, and bad for the marketplace in general. Disney and Marvel both should have to innovate and compete like the rest of us.