Does the GPL allow me to charge a fee for downloading the program from my site?
Yes. You can charge any fee you wish for distributing a copy of the program. If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide “equivalent access” to download the source—therefore, the fee to download source may not be greater than the fee to download the binary.
It looks to me that I can charge $1,000,000 for my GPL software and charge another $1,000,000 for the source.
Point taken. And I'm split regarding loser pays or out current system here in the US. (Your post gave me more to chew on - so thank you.)
But I have to wonder, what about the people who are being sued and the case isn't so cut and dried where you're not sure if you have a chance at winning?
"Loser pays" also gives large corporations carte blanche to screw individuals.
Did your boss walk by or something? Please expand on that a little.
I'll try.
In a nutshell, big corp, no matter how much in the wrong the are, can wave in front of the 'little guy's" face that they'll keep him in court for years and if he loses, he'll be on the hook for millions of dollars in legal fees. I don't care how sure you are about your case, that's a huge disincentive to stick up for one's self. Now, add in the fact that the laws are skewed in the corporation's favor, it's a system that's ripe for even more abuse than we have now.
Imagine the RIAA going after folks and saying that they could fight and not only have to pay their own legal bills but also the RIAA's if they lose. No one would even think about it. The EFF would have to become very selective of the cases it took - even more than they are now.
And one last thing: there's a huge difference with an individual being stuck with the legal bills as opposed to a corporation. With a corporation, at least the big ones, they lose a lawsuit it's not a big deal - any legal costs an individual runs up they can pay out of their toilet paper budget. An individual loses and they're ruined.
For a loser pays system, I would want restrictions placed on what a corporation can do - maybe even preventing them from collecting legal fees when litigating against an individual in a "loser pays" system.
Do a search on whatever you're interested in. Then precede those searches with something completely random,like airplanes and explosives. Do your search on whatever you want and then follow it up with a search on say, "Islam".
Since Oracle is probably getting MySQL, I was thinking of a fork. With Oracle's licensing terms that I've heard about, I think a fork of an Oracle product should be called "SQLLikaPig"?
SQL is pronounced.in many old timer circles as "squeal".
Yet another attempt by MSFT to influence Linux users. By charging them triple for the same product.
I can see this going over like a lead filled ballon. While costs for goods may rise and drive up prices, prices themselves have a way of going down with volume. Of course in a market (software) that doesn't produce physical products pricing is artificial anyways.
[0004]The described implementations relate to social marketing. One technique identifies potential buyers of a product where the potential buyers belong to a social network. The technique determines a price to offer the product to individual potential buyers that considers both influence of the individual potential buyer within the social network and overall revenue from sales of the product to the potential buyers.
[0005]Another implementation identifies potential buyers of a product in a social network. The implementation arbitrarily selects a set of the potential buyers to offer the product at a relatively low price to influence the remaining potential buyers. The implementation also updates membership in the set by adding and removing individual potential buyers from the set until revenue from product sales to the social network is not increased by adding or removing an individual potential buyer from the set. The above listed examples are intended to provide a quick reference to aid the reader and are not intended to define the scope of the concepts described herein.
The rock stars get their guitars for free (Paul McCartney once commented:"When you're poor you cant' afford them and when you're rich they give them to you.) is the same thing.
Or how about paying celebrities to use your product.
Now the randomly selecting people part. What's wrong with that? So they're trying to accelerate the product to the tipping point.
This will hurt no one and this was just an "article" to have an excuse to bash Microsoft about something. *yawn*
First) So I'm not multitasking by listening to the radio, talking on the phone, typing this post, thinking about what i'm listening to on the radio, thinking about what i'm talking about on the phone, thinking about what i'm typing here, thinking about my posture, thinking about when i should take my next sip of coffee, etc, etc, etc?
Nope, you're not. You give each activity a minuscule attention.
Two) If people couldn't do what they've been trained and licensed to do, they would fail the training, and thus be unable to pass the licensing examination. They would also drive all over the road in both directions at all times while ignoring all signs and markers. I've seen video of this in 3rd world countries, the USA is 1st world thankfully your ideas don't match reality.
Wrong again. They do what they need to do to pass and then do what they want once they're on the road.
D) Nothing is impossible except banning cell phone usage in cars being the only solution.
It's the enforcement. We have really, really high fines here for all sorts of traffic violations, but enforcement is so lacking that it almost seems random. Your chances of getting caught are miniscule, so people learn to ignore the law. If they do get caught, the fines are staggering - but the one in ten thousand chance of getting caught is not a deterrent.
Actually it's not the fines or enforcement. It's training. Every police vehicle I've seen has a laptop mounted on the center console. Every time I see a cop driving around they have one hand on the keyboard and constantly glance back and forth between the road and the computer.
Cell phones and cars aren't going away anytime soon. Instead of punishing the citizens for doing something police are trained to do, train the citizens too. There is no reason that drivers ed. classes shouldn't discuss this and deal with it.
I think the best way to "think of the children" is to teach the children. If you don't want little Lisa to text and drive into a horrible wreck, teach her how to text and drive responsibly. Otherwise take your blanket statements and have every computer removed from police vehicles because otherwise we have an effective working double standard which provides revenue to the police force. Fuck that shit.
First of all, you cannot train folks to multitask because humans are incapable of doing it. The cops can't do it either. What you call multitasking is actually them selecting attention rapidly between their laptops and driving - if they're even doing that.
Two, even if it were possible to train folks how to do it, what makes you think that folks will follow their training? People are trained not to tailgate, speed, cut others off, etc...
Everything you've proposed is impossible. The ONLY solution is to ban cell phones in cars. There is absolutely no reason to talk in a car anyway - no exceptions. Got to talk? Pull over.
Interesting. I'm going to send my wife, who's in health care, that link.
All I know is, regardless of what happens, when I need some sort of major treatment, I'll be on a plane to India to get treated by an American educated Indian doctor and then spend some time on a tropical beach with my wife to recuperate - all for a third of what it will cost here.
Do you know how hard it is to potty train a lawyer?! It's not like a dog or better a cat that makes a bee line for the litter box. Nooooooo!
Lawyers need a big office if they don't have one, they'll shit all over everything. They need an expensive car or they'll pee over everything. And as for food! Oh God!
Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club. It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.
There you go.
And I for one would rather have any relationship between a judge and a lawyer be public knowledge.
It would be worse if their friendship were secret.
Switch from Google to MS, because of PRIVACY issues?
I would like to point out, that Microsoft has come under horrendous fire because of their business practices and privacy and other things as you all know. Now because they realize that they are in fact losing (although slowly) market share to F/OSS because of these issues - the EU has been really hammering Microsoft, MS has been becoming more sensitive to the privacy issue. It seems like whenever I do anything with a MS product these days message boxes pop up stating what data and where they are sending it and whether I would like to opt out, decrease certain parts of the data, or just send it all. Why even with my Visual Studio Beta 2, there were all these statements regarding what they'll be collecting.
What I'm saying is, when it come to my privacy, I'd trust Microsoft before Google - but that's as far as I trust any organization.
I would also like to point out that while all of you are fretting about your searching habits and what porn site you guys re visiting may be tracked by Google or whoever, the credit bureaus and your bank is sending your: SSN, dob, name, address, past addresses, spouse's name, mother's maiden name and other very sensitive information all over the World. I had an issue with a credit report and I settled it with a very nice woman in India - I think - her accent was muddled. She refused to give me her location because of "security reasons". That was Trans Union. Banks offshore quite a bit of their back office processing.
MS and Google are far far off of my radar as far as privacy issues and for "evil" business practices.
No you're not. I found him. He's a very very bad boy. I did a search of computer hacks in 1994 and I saw textfiles (he DID mention it) and this is what I found.
Yep, that bad ass hacks calculators! Do you know the turmail he could have caused! He should have been sent away for a very very long time!
If I see an advertisement on those Google Adwords or Adsense or whatever, I automatically think they're a scam. It's the same with any and all telemarketers (charities included!), spam email, and junk mail.
If they're not a scam and if they offer a decent service at a decent price, I will probably find them when I'm shopping for services that they offer - regardless if they advertise with Google or not.
How do I know if they're legit?
I search:
BBB.org
FTV.gov
RipoffReport.com
Google [their names] complaints
Resellerratings.com
And others that may be specific to the industry...like FINRA.org for some financial things.
Of course, the above list isn't foolproof. If a company just started out, there won't be anything.
Some of you with mod points really need to read the moderation guidelines.
Here's a bullet point guide:
Troll: someone who's posting stuff just to get a reaction out of folks.
Flamebait: just posting shit to piss everyone off or a select group. An example, I think Slashdot has a script that looks for really stupid people and then gives them mod points. See, that's "Flamebait".
Now off-topic would be if I posted something about Nazi Germany and their battle tanks.
Overrated will be if I got a +5 Funny for posting, "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Facebooks" or "In Soviet Russia, Facebooks you!"
See?
Now, you Troll moderators be nice and post something to back off the parent's bogus moderation.
I was thinking more along the lines of registering the MPAA and RIAA and trying to figure out how one would frame the MPAA with downloading music, frame the RIAA with downloading movies, and framing all the politicians who have passed laws allowing those organizations to use their legal tactics with child porn.
Yep, experienced people with technical skills are still not that easy to find,...
Everyone I know who's looking for technical help is getting swamped with resumes from qualified people. It's just a matter of weeding them out.
Starting looking for a new job right away, and when you leave, do NOT give any notice. Just leave that same day, to spite them. However, tell your new employer you need to give them 2 weeks' notice (because it looks bad to the new employer if you don't), so instead of working at the old place for 2 weeks, just screw them and take a 2-week vacation.
I see. So, you're saying he should lie. It will probably catch up with him one day and if he's like me, he may be a terrible liar.
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Does the GPL allow me to charge a fee for downloading the program from my site?
Yes. You can charge any fee you wish for distributing a copy of the program. If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide “equivalent access” to download the source—therefore, the fee to download source may not be greater than the fee to download the binary.
It looks to me that I can charge $1,000,000 for my GPL software and charge another $1,000,000 for the source.
But I have to wonder, what about the people who are being sued and the case isn't so cut and dried where you're not sure if you have a chance at winning?
Sure they talent and were competent - at bullshitting.
Oops. I hope I didn't add to your despair. I have found a cure for that - see sig.
Someone who's actually paid to be the goat.
I can do that! Were can I get a job like that.
"Loser pays" also gives large corporations carte blanche to screw individuals.
Did your boss walk by or something? Please expand on that a little.
I'll try.
In a nutshell, big corp, no matter how much in the wrong the are, can wave in front of the 'little guy's" face that they'll keep him in court for years and if he loses, he'll be on the hook for millions of dollars in legal fees. I don't care how sure you are about your case, that's a huge disincentive to stick up for one's self. Now, add in the fact that the laws are skewed in the corporation's favor, it's a system that's ripe for even more abuse than we have now.
Imagine the RIAA going after folks and saying that they could fight and not only have to pay their own legal bills but also the RIAA's if they lose. No one would even think about it. The EFF would have to become very selective of the cases it took - even more than they are now.
And one last thing: there's a huge difference with an individual being stuck with the legal bills as opposed to a corporation. With a corporation, at least the big ones, they lose a lawsuit it's not a big deal - any legal costs an individual runs up they can pay out of their toilet paper budget. An individual loses and they're ruined.
For a loser pays system, I would want restrictions placed on what a corporation can do - maybe even preventing them from collecting legal fees when litigating against an individual in a "loser pays" system.
No one will pay any attention.
SQL is pronounced .in many old timer circles as "squeal".
Yet another attempt by MSFT to influence Linux users. By charging them triple for the same product.
I can see this going over like a lead filled ballon. While costs for goods may rise and drive up prices, prices themselves have a way of going down with volume. Of course in a market (software) that doesn't produce physical products pricing is artificial anyways.
And look at the picture ! It s NAZI Salute!
There you go, it's all part of Gates' plan to take over the World and crush Linux! I can tell!
[0004]The described implementations relate to social marketing. One technique identifies potential buyers of a product where the potential buyers belong to a social network. The technique determines a price to offer the product to individual potential buyers that considers both influence of the individual potential buyer within the social network and overall revenue from sales of the product to the potential buyers.
[0005]Another implementation identifies potential buyers of a product in a social network. The implementation arbitrarily selects a set of the potential buyers to offer the product at a relatively low price to influence the remaining potential buyers. The implementation also updates membership in the set by adding and removing individual potential buyers from the set until revenue from product sales to the social network is not increased by adding or removing an individual potential buyer from the set. The above listed examples are intended to provide a quick reference to aid the reader and are not intended to define the scope of the concepts described herein.
The rock stars get their guitars for free (Paul McCartney once commented:"When you're poor you cant' afford them and when you're rich they give them to you.) is the same thing.
Or how about paying celebrities to use your product.
Now the randomly selecting people part. What's wrong with that? So they're trying to accelerate the product to the tipping point.
This will hurt no one and this was just an "article" to have an excuse to bash Microsoft about something. *yawn*
First) So I'm not multitasking by listening to the radio, talking on the phone, typing this post, thinking about what i'm listening to on the radio, thinking about what i'm talking about on the phone, thinking about what i'm typing here, thinking about my posture, thinking about when i should take my next sip of coffee, etc, etc, etc?
Nope, you're not. You give each activity a minuscule attention.
Two) If people couldn't do what they've been trained and licensed to do, they would fail the training, and thus be unable to pass the licensing examination. They would also drive all over the road in both directions at all times while ignoring all signs and markers. I've seen video of this in 3rd world countries, the USA is 1st world thankfully your ideas don't match reality.
Wrong again. They do what they need to do to pass and then do what they want once they're on the road.
D) Nothing is impossible except banning cell phone usage in cars being the only solution.
I'm afraid you may have gotten me there.
It's the enforcement. We have really, really high fines here for all sorts of traffic violations, but enforcement is so lacking that it almost seems random. Your chances of getting caught are miniscule, so people learn to ignore the law. If they do get caught, the fines are staggering - but the one in ten thousand chance of getting caught is not a deterrent.
Actually it's not the fines or enforcement. It's training. Every police vehicle I've seen has a laptop mounted on the center console. Every time I see a cop driving around they have one hand on the keyboard and constantly glance back and forth between the road and the computer.
Cell phones and cars aren't going away anytime soon. Instead of punishing the citizens for doing something police are trained to do, train the citizens too. There is no reason that drivers ed. classes shouldn't discuss this and deal with it.
I think the best way to "think of the children" is to teach the children. If you don't want little Lisa to text and drive into a horrible wreck, teach her how to text and drive responsibly. Otherwise take your blanket statements and have every computer removed from police vehicles because otherwise we have an effective working double standard which provides revenue to the police force. Fuck that shit.
First of all, you cannot train folks to multitask because humans are incapable of doing it. The cops can't do it either. What you call multitasking is actually them selecting attention rapidly between their laptops and driving - if they're even doing that.
Two, even if it were possible to train folks how to do it, what makes you think that folks will follow their training? People are trained not to tailgate, speed, cut others off, etc...
Everything you've proposed is impossible. The ONLY solution is to ban cell phones in cars. There is absolutely no reason to talk in a car anyway - no exceptions. Got to talk? Pull over.
If you restrict it and keep proprietary software off, then it will become just hobbyist platform.
All I know is, regardless of what happens, when I need some sort of major treatment, I'll be on a plane to India to get treated by an American educated Indian doctor and then spend some time on a tropical beach with my wife to recuperate - all for a third of what it will cost here.
Here's a crazy idea: in-house lawyers.
Do you know how hard it is to potty train a lawyer?! It's not like a dog or better a cat that makes a bee line for the litter box. Nooooooo!
Lawyers need a big office if they don't have one, they'll shit all over everything. They need an expensive car or they'll pee over everything. And as for food! Oh God!
Just gimme a cat.
Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club. It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.
There you go.
And I for one would rather have any relationship between a judge and a lawyer be public knowledge.
It would be worse if their friendship were secret.
Switch from Google to MS, because of PRIVACY issues?
I would like to point out, that Microsoft has come under horrendous fire because of their business practices and privacy and other things as you all know. Now because they realize that they are in fact losing (although slowly) market share to F/OSS because of these issues - the EU has been really hammering Microsoft, MS has been becoming more sensitive to the privacy issue. It seems like whenever I do anything with a MS product these days message boxes pop up stating what data and where they are sending it and whether I would like to opt out, decrease certain parts of the data, or just send it all. Why even with my Visual Studio Beta 2, there were all these statements regarding what they'll be collecting.
What I'm saying is, when it come to my privacy, I'd trust Microsoft before Google - but that's as far as I trust any organization.
I would also like to point out that while all of you are fretting about your searching habits and what porn site you guys re visiting may be tracked by Google or whoever, the credit bureaus and your bank is sending your: SSN, dob, name, address, past addresses, spouse's name, mother's maiden name and other very sensitive information all over the World. I had an issue with a credit report and I settled it with a very nice woman in India - I think - her accent was muddled. She refused to give me her location because of "security reasons". That was Trans Union. Banks offshore quite a bit of their back office processing.
MS and Google are far far off of my radar as far as privacy issues and for "evil" business practices.
Or, his name is Horror Kid
or even
Geeze I don't know. Many of the files up there are about preventing hacking too.
Yep, that bad ass hacks calculators! Do you know the turmail he could have caused! He should have been sent away for a very very long time!
After doing a whois, I see that just about all information is described as "Unknown"
Why is this domain still in existence? Can ICANN take it down?
It looks like the sole reason for this domain is for malware.
I mean, what's the point in even going?
If I see an advertisement on those Google Adwords or Adsense or whatever, I automatically think they're a scam. It's the same with any and all telemarketers (charities included!), spam email, and junk mail.
If they're not a scam and if they offer a decent service at a decent price, I will probably find them when I'm shopping for services that they offer - regardless if they advertise with Google or not.
How do I know if they're legit?
I search:
Of course, the above list isn't foolproof. If a company just started out, there won't be anything.
Some of you with mod points really need to read the moderation guidelines.
Here's a bullet point guide:
Troll: someone who's posting stuff just to get a reaction out of folks.
Flamebait: just posting shit to piss everyone off or a select group. An example, I think Slashdot has a script that looks for really stupid people and then gives them mod points. See, that's "Flamebait".
Now off-topic would be if I posted something about Nazi Germany and their battle tanks.
Overrated will be if I got a +5 Funny for posting, "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Facebooks" or "In Soviet Russia, Facebooks you!"
See?
Now, you Troll moderators be nice and post something to back off the parent's bogus moderation.
I was thinking more along the lines of registering the MPAA and RIAA and trying to figure out how one would frame the MPAA with downloading music, frame the RIAA with downloading movies, and framing all the politicians who have passed laws allowing those organizations to use their legal tactics with child porn.
Yep, experienced people with technical skills are still not that easy to find,...
Everyone I know who's looking for technical help is getting swamped with resumes from qualified people. It's just a matter of weeding them out.
Starting looking for a new job right away, and when you leave, do NOT give any notice. Just leave that same day, to spite them. However, tell your new employer you need to give them 2 weeks' notice (because it looks bad to the new employer if you don't), so instead of working at the old place for 2 weeks, just screw them and take a 2-week vacation.
I see. So, you're saying he should lie. It will probably catch up with him one day and if he's like me, he may be a terrible liar.
That wasn't very good advice to give.
If you are great at the technical stuff you will become irreplaceable as you develop unique one off solutions to problems.
Anyone who believes that they are irreplaceable will have a very rude awakening one day.