"The only prisoners sent to Guantanamo were people known or believed to be members of al Qaida, or its affiliates."
Wow, I knew you were a shill but I wouldn't expect you'd stoop so low as to defend who all was captured and sent to gitmo. "Believed to be" al Qaeda? You mean, like this man and his three children, who were sent there because his surname *sounded similar* to that of an al Qaeda member?
As for the retroactivity, do you seriously think that dragjnet data-gathering like the NSA practices on every single one of us is meant to be used *proactively*? Are you going to tell me it'll just be used to target terr'roists?
Every single time, like clockwork. "This isn't new information!" "Well they're a spy agency, what do you expect?" "I don't care who reads all my text messages!"
Even though this isn't representative of what most users will post later on in time. It's almost as if a bunch of people are employed to squat on Snowden threads and post the same old reheated bullshit!.. Oh wait, that's totally what's happening.
No, the NSA probably isn't proactively spying on you. What they ARE doing is building up a retroactive database of our information, so that its friends can comprehensively destroy us or our reputation at a moment's notice. Hooray for you that you want your own privacy to be destroyed--feel free to hop right off that cliff, I'm sure everyone else will follow.
Pretty sure I've explained all this to you before, alen, but I suppose that doesn't matter since you're reading from someone else's script.
Already two guys playing the "welp that's what they're supposed to do!" card. Very useful fallback when you can't use the tired old "We knew about this before Snowden!" line, huh?
In this case it's a large swath of people being spied upon, and not those open-carriers you so detest. Because every gun owner should be spied on extra according to your petty grudge, as if that's sone sort of poetic justice?
Good to know you won't stand up for those who've done you no wrong, let's not be friends.
The point wasn't whether they did it, but that they were planning to. Hence the word."planning" in the title. And you want your readers to think slashdot is trash? Why, so that they'll leave amd there can be a greater share of shills like you here?
" it takes surveillance/intelligence ops back to the physical world where you pay per target and not per system of mass surveillance"
You really think the NSA isn't going to pursue the destruction of privacy, regardless of how easy it is? As of less physical encryption will force them to respect us?
P.S. What passes for "Targeted surveillance" in recent times.. hasn't been very targeted at all.
"The government is enforcing the law"
Is allowing corporations like comcast and time warner to collide at the expense of their customers "enforcing the law"? Do you exoect a former cable lobbyist as thr FCC chief to "enforce the law"?
"they are not actively trying to get rid of our rights"
*Not wanting an end to privacy
*Wanting every possible scrap of info about every one of us
Choose one.
Americans' web access often involves several hops abroad. Your reassurances of safeguards are undermined by every new news story indicating the NSA has broken its own rules countless times when spying on Americans. You sound like a shill.
A hardware-maker allowing its devices to be physically compromised by the government is absolutely not mundane--give me one example of this news being reported elsewhere before the Snowden leaks. Our own government disagrees with you, since it has taken great lengths to warn US businesses not to use Chinese networking hardware, for fear that the Chinese would do just what it is proven our own government has done.
"Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, at a press conference to release the report, said companies that had used Huawei equipment had reported "numerous allegations" of unexpected behavior, including routers supposedly sending large data packs to China late at night."
And international markets agree with me (and not you) on the gravity of this news for Cisco's outlook:
âoeI do think (the NSA revelation) is a factor in China.â In May 2014, in response to the alleged NSA spying programs, Chambers wrote the Obama Administration, âoeif these allegations are true, these actions will undermine confidence in our industry and in the ability of technology companies to deliver products globally.â
From a former NSA agent: "The constant stream of news about NSAâ(TM)s activities has raised broader questions, particularly internationally, about the security of technologies coming from U.S. companies. This has been measurably hitting the bottom lines of companies like Cisco and Juniper and caused many companies to look to alternatives like Huawei."
And your response now to my calling you out for posting spam... is to spam a different topic with unrelated garbage? Are you even sentient? Or are you just so scared of being called out that you hope if you try to harass me, I'll go away?
Snowden's leaks revealed how Cisco routers set to be exported were intercepted and physically compromised. I wouldn't say that the information reveleaed about the NSA's techniques is mundane in the least.
Look, all this isn't remotely believable. You clearly compounded that account's massive spamming attempts by needlessly quoting obscenely huge chunks of his nonsense. He's a paid shill and so are you--no amount of verbose whining on your part could hide the role of spamming you were playing in that thread.
Oh look, it's vague admonoshment from the token pro-establishment troll cold fjord. Are you going to tell me that i'm on the list too? But i'm happy you just post your silly disinfo aboit snowden as AC now--that means it has absolutely failed otherwise on slashdot.
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He's totally right that building a wall would be a garish ecological disaster. Sorry to see that your attention span was too tiny to get to that part.
..and I didn't speak up because i wasn't Mexican.
Remember, whether it's immigrants or Guantanamo prisoners: if it's good enough for Them, then it's good enough for Us.
"The only prisoners sent to Guantanamo were people known or believed to be members of al Qaida, or its affiliates."
Wow, I knew you were a shill but I wouldn't expect you'd stoop so low as to defend who all was captured and sent to gitmo. "Believed to be" al Qaeda? You mean, like this man and his three children, who were sent there because his surname *sounded similar* to that of an al Qaeda member?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...
He didn't deserve gitmo, but you do, as you have a career of whitewashing and justifying the suffering of innocents.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry...
Care to tell me why the NSA cares about the por anyone looks at, if not to discredit them?
But they have to get rid of it somehow, and given the US' recent record of irradiating Iraqis (see: fallujah), i wouldm't be surprised.
"Netflix agreed to pay Comcast"...? What a delightfully contrived way to paint comcast holding netflix and its customers hostage.
"People here"..? spoken like a true, disgruntled outsider.
"You trust the FCC, so why don't you trust the angency i troll for? No fair!
NSA and DEA team up to share data
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/...
NSA and FBI team up to monitor American Muslim leaders (who've committed no crime)
https://firstlook.org/theinter...
As for the retroactivity, do you seriously think that dragjnet data-gathering like the NSA practices on every single one of us is meant to be used *proactively*? Are you going to tell me it'll just be used to target terr'roists?
Even assuming you're right, you seriously think "interception of communications" meant the same thing in the 90s that it does now?
Every single time, like clockwork.
"This isn't new information!"
"Well they're a spy agency, what do you expect?"
"I don't care who reads all my text messages!"
Even though this isn't representative of what most users will post later on in time.
It's almost as if a bunch of people are employed to squat on Snowden threads and post the same old reheated bullshit!.. Oh wait, that's totally what's happening.
No, the NSA probably isn't proactively spying on you. What they ARE doing is building up a retroactive database of our information, so that its friends can comprehensively destroy us or our reputation at a moment's notice. Hooray for you that you want your own privacy to be destroyed--feel free to hop right off that cliff, I'm sure everyone else will follow.
Pretty sure I've explained all this to you before, alen, but I suppose that doesn't matter since you're reading from someone else's script.
Already two guys playing the "welp that's what they're supposed to do!" card. Very useful fallback when you can't use the tired old "We knew about this before Snowden!" line, huh?
In this case it's a large swath of people being spied upon, and not those open-carriers you so detest. Because every gun owner should be spied on extra according to your petty grudge, as if that's sone sort of poetic justice?
Good to know you won't stand up for those who've done you no wrong, let's not be friends.
The point wasn't whether they did it, but that they were planning to. Hence the word."planning" in the title. And you want your readers to think slashdot is trash? Why, so that they'll leave amd there can be a greater share of shills like you here?
" it takes surveillance/intelligence ops back to the physical world where you pay per target and not per system of mass surveillance"
You really think the NSA isn't going to pursue the destruction of privacy, regardless of how easy it is? As of less physical encryption will force them to respect us?
P.S. What passes for "Targeted surveillance" in recent times.. hasn't been very targeted at all.
"The government is enforcing the law"
Is allowing corporations like comcast and time warner to collide at the expense of their customers "enforcing the law"? Do you exoect a former cable lobbyist as thr FCC chief to "enforce the law"?
That's no reassurance.If they can't get a warrant, they can always resort to a national security letter or a gag order.
"they are not actively trying to get rid of our rights" *Not wanting an end to privacy *Wanting every possible scrap of info about every one of us Choose one.
Americans' web access often involves several hops abroad. Your reassurances of safeguards are undermined by every new news story indicating the NSA has broken its own rules countless times when spying on Americans. You sound like a shill.
A hardware-maker allowing its devices to be physically compromised by the government is absolutely not mundane--give me one example of this news being reported elsewhere before the Snowden leaks. Our own government disagrees with you, since it has taken great lengths to warn US businesses not to use Chinese networking hardware, for fear that the Chinese would do just what it is proven our own government has done.
http://www.reuters.com/article...
"Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, at a press conference to release the report, said companies that had used Huawei equipment had reported "numerous allegations" of unexpected behavior, including routers supposedly sending large data packs to China late at night."
And international markets agree with me (and not you) on the gravity of this news for Cisco's outlook:
http://www.businessinsider.com...
Cisco's CEO, John Chambers:
âoeI do think (the NSA revelation) is a factor in China.â In May 2014, in response to the alleged NSA spying programs, Chambers wrote the Obama Administration, âoeif these allegations are true, these actions will undermine confidence in our industry and in the ability of technology companies to deliver products globally.â
From a former NSA agent:
"The constant stream of news about NSAâ(TM)s activities has raised broader questions, particularly internationally, about the security of technologies coming from U.S. companies. This has been measurably hitting the bottom lines of companies like Cisco and Juniper and caused many companies to look to alternatives like Huawei."
How's that for "mundane"?
And your response now to my calling you out for posting spam... is to spam a different topic with unrelated garbage? Are you even sentient? Or are you just so scared of being called out that you hope if you try to harass me, I'll go away?
Snowden's leaks revealed how Cisco routers set to be exported were intercepted and physically compromised. I wouldn't say that the information reveleaed about the NSA's techniques is mundane in the least.
Look, all this isn't remotely believable. You clearly compounded that account's massive spamming attempts by needlessly quoting obscenely huge chunks of his nonsense. He's a paid shill and so are you--no amount of verbose whining on your part could hide the role of spamming you were playing in that thread.
Oh look, it's vague admonoshment from the token pro-establishment troll cold fjord. Are you going to tell me that i'm on the list too? But i'm happy you just post your silly disinfo aboit snowden as AC now--that means it has absolutely failed otherwise on slashdot.