I think, in the context of a slashdot forum, anything is okay so long as a reasonable person can discern meaning. mW vs MW is indeed a problem, but kw vs kW??? What exactly did YOU think the 'w' stood for?
Never, in any context is it ok to write incorrect information. And the problem comes when people start writing mw, Mw, mW and MW respectively, and then mixing 1,000 with 1.000. The numbers get way way way off, so it is _never ever_ ok to start messing with units and hoping the reader "gets what you mean" just because you are lazy.
And people correcting other people, they just have to get things correct or it's an epic fail. What is the point if being a smart ass, if you are just another dumb ass who gets it wrong again?
Are you sure it is 52,000 kWh (kwh is not the right unit btw) and not 52.000 kWh, as it actually says in the summary.
There is a huuuuge, difference. One would be able to run a car at full throttle for an hour, roughly, and the other would be able to run at full throttle for 40 days. (52 kW is an ok size engine).
Now, the summary is bad, cause it distorts the patent application. The summary says 52.220 kWh but the patent says 52.22 kWh.
So the question is now where you got that silly 52 MWh figure from....
For the record, hoods + shackles are a hell of a lot more preferable to tuberculosis, malnutrition, and unsafe water.
I would snap up a chance to do time at Gitmo vs. just about any jail/prison outside of the 1st world.
And I would snap up a chance to do time in any Western European prison instead of being tortured at Gitmo or anal raped in a mainland US prison. You guys aren't treating your prisoners right.
I would have to disagree with DNA as evidence based on the following logic:
If DNA could be considered a programming language would it make more sense to write everything from scratch for each specific creature or to reuse and modify/add-on to existing code? Most programmers wouldn't even bother rewriting the I/O functions needed for nearly all programs to work - instead they reuse code that others or they themselves have created beforehand. I believe DNA would be used by God in the same way, which could explain why there are so many similarities in DNA sequences across vastly different species.
You are completely wrong. The DNA of life on earth does not show evidence of a programmer being able to take parts from a DNA "bank of code" and reusing them when making new animals. If there had been a programmer that could reuse parts at will, the DNA of species would look different to what it does.
In fact, it looks like you can't go from A to B to C if B isn't an organism/mutation that is beneficial to the creature. Here are 3 examples that show that we were evolved, and not designed.
1. All vertebrates have eyes where the blood vessels and nerves of the eye run on top of the retina, in effect blocking out a lot of the light before it reaches the retina. (You can't normally see this because your brain filters out the pattern of the blood vessels). From a design point of view, this is bad design, especially since there are eyes in nature which have blood vessels and nerves on the back side of the retina and not in front of it, for example mollusks. Do you want proof? You have a blind spot, test it yourself. Squids don't. In fact, evolution predicts that vertebrates will have the defect retina since there is no intermediate stage between a vertebrate eye and a mollusk eye that would work better than the already working eyes.
2. Evolution predicts that there be no winged unicorns, centaurs, dragons etc. Why? Because there is no build plan for mammals and reptiles with 3 pairs of limbs since we have evolved from fish with 2 pairs of limbs. A designer could pick and choose and put wings on a horse if he wanted. Evolution can't. See any winged unicorns lately?
3. I assume you are a male (if not, go find a male to check this on). Now take a look at your penis and scrotum. See the little seam there, going all the way from the urethra to your perineum? Why would a designer put a seam there as if you had two parts from the start that was later fused together? Well it is because you actually had the start of a vagina as a small embryo and then later you got your testes and you fused together to your male genitalia, just as if you are evolved from animals like fish that only have one opening. And in fact, males are evolved from females, proving the bible part of god making Eve from Adam being completely wrong.
This is not a philosophical question of "Wouldn't you reuse code". There is actual DNA evidence for evolution and against a designer, but it seems you have not looked at it. Please read up on DNA a bit.
And contraceptives are not even remotely the same thing. They don't terminate a life - they simply prevent it from occuring in the first place.
Totally incorrect. Every sperm is just as alive as every human being or any other being for that matter. Just because they are haploid instead of diploid don't make them any less alive or capable of becoming a complete human, if combined with an egg, they are just the other part of our reproductive cycle.
Imagine someone/something killing of the sperm that became you before your mom and dad had sex. I'm saying good luck to you trying to become who you are today. In my eyes you are equally dead if the sperm is killed off.
I for one am glad that my mom did two abortions before I was born, cause if she hadn't, that lucky combination of sperm and egg that turned into me wouldn't have met and fused. Those two embryos would have turned out to be fine human beings, I'm sure, but I'd rather be alive than them being alive. Of course I'm biased, since I am alive, but you get my point; for me, abortion was my chance to life!
Except, in the case of real inventions, like a toaster for instance, you only have to deal with a couple of patents if you want to build a new one.
With software patents, you have to deal with every single patent on software ever, and there are more patents issued than you can read in say, a year. And there are more to come.
And what is the difference between patenting an algorithm and patenting "1+1=2"? The fact that math wasn't patented 2000+ years ago is a good thing for you and me.
right now there are several MSFT P member countries that will no longer vote on anything because they are no longer being paid by MSFT to work with the ISO. These countries are deadlocking other standards and forcing them to fail because they refuse to vote on anything not OOXML. Those countries should have their votes discarded until they start attended and voting on things other than OOXML. If this is true, just make a statistical analysis of different member countries and how much they have voted on different standards, OOXML and others. The corrupted ones should stand out like sore thumbs. Especially look at differences over time now that the voting is over.
Then give this data to the EU anti-trust prosecutors.
Finally, some program for free just to learn more or have fun. Not necessarilly saying that any or all of the above reasons are bad, only that there are few, if any, programmers who write free software for charity. Most expect to get some sort of benefit out of it. The thing the Africans need to realize is that most programmers prefer to get money in exchange for their coding, and if you don't allow patents, and therefore don't allow programmers to get money in exchange for coding, you have cut off about 98% of your source of new code. You can get some people to work for ego stroking, but most have mortgages to pay and lives to live, and they need money like everyone else. In general, Microsoft is very correct that software costs money, and you aren't going to get it for free.
WHAT? 98%? Did you pull those figures out of your own ass?
98% of the source of new code does not come from software patents and I can prove it:
Mac OS X
The code in Mac OS X did not come to be because of software patents, it came to be because Apple paid their programmers to code a kick butt OS so they could sell hardware, and they do, and they sell a lot of hardware. Plus a lot of the code came from NeXT, which Apple bought, and from BSD. And their market share is big. (No, I use Linux, but I bought my mom a Mac)
You must have confused Imaginary Property, Software Patents and Copyrights respectively, otherwise there is no way to get even close to your numbers. What you probably mean is; If you abolish copyright altogether you would remove 98% of the income source for new code.But that is not what this is about at all.
I'm not sure who it is you're arguing with, but it must be somebody who espouses a different set of beliefs than I do. I'm arguing against the person who started quoting scripture that tries to predict the weather. I have a perfect example of when that scripture is wrong, and science is right. And it all boils down to, the more science we figure out, the less "god did it" works as an explanation.
Perhaps Matthew hadn't visited Sweden. That doesn't make his observation any less true than your grandfather's. Hellllloooooo? We are talking the alleged word of god here. He must have been to Sweden if he made it right? Stop making excuses and just admit that it's Science basket 1 - God 0 in the weather department.
Have you ever sat down and read Genesis? It's not a terrible allegory, if your audience is nomadic shepherds... Have you read any of the Eddas of Norse Mythology? Here's an idea, you read up on other peoples mythology first before you ask them to read up on yours.
In the bible it talks about that if there is a red sky at night then it will be a sunny day tomorrow, while a red sky in the morning means it will rain (Matthew 16:2 I think).
Now we know it is solar rays refracting through particles of moisture in the moving clouds that makes the sky red. However, the adage still works. Knowing how it works has not changed the phenomenon.
Except that your adage doesn't work!
It all depends on where you are situated on the earth, and your prevailing winds. On the west coast of Sweden, in the archipelago, the adage is the other way around. This is because red skies at night means clouds beyond the horizon, which is the Atlantic, and since the prevailing winds are from the west that usually means rain tomorrow. This adage, completely opposite to yours, is valid on he west coast of Sweden, and has been at least since 1896 when my grandpa was born there. And he did keep records of the weather even though he wasn't a true scientist. He observed and noted the weather in his diary every single day for 20 years, and we still have those books.
And no, HIV is not passed ingestion. shows how much you know.
Actually, the most likely HIV patient zero was probably a hunter who got infected by SIV while cutting up chimps. So indirectly, eating bush meat started the AIDS pandemic.
Seriously. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. This is from the BeOS article.... so Apple turned to a company called NeXT, set up by some nobody called Steve Jobs.
The guy who founded Apple and started the wave of personal copmuters is not a nobody.
Now, I've tried BeOS. It was good, but lacking a lot of apps. And there was not enough room for more proprietary OSes for the PC market. Think of all the good OSes that died, BeOS, OS2, MacOS, Plan9, NeXT (the latter surviving a bit because it was transformed into MacOSX). The only two who can compete with BadVista and MacOSX is Linux and BSD cause they have enough apps, userbase and a competitive edge in being cheaper to install.
Arthur C. Clarke books are often very true to science. One of my favourites is Rendevouz with Rama. The first in a trilogy about the encounter of enormous spaceships all of a sudden found racing through our solar system.
Also Isaac Asimovs books are nice. Try starting with I, Robot, which has a much better story than the movie they made.
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STRONG BAD: What is this? Did the quadratic formula explode? I see a "Strong ba" in there, but it's getting eaten... by some... Linux or something. Wait a minute! Is this one of those virus emails?! Like the kind that moms and offshore casinos send you?!? I'll take care of this!
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Janne Suni's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Acid Jazzed Evening" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Ok, most of this list was harmless fun. But how dare they violate the valuable IP of patent #6,368,227? Don't bother letting these hardened criminals rot in jail- just shoot them for their crimes against humanity.
I have prior art to this patent dating back to 1982 or before that.
We used this mode of swinging in the two swings made of rubber tires hanging next to each other outside of this house, effectively making them into bumper cars. The object was to swing into the other guy until he couldn't take it any more.
Important to note is that you actually only need to pull rythmically in one of the chains to get this sideways swinging motion, so our invention is technically far supperior to this kids inferior method of pulling in both chains.
And of course, the oval mode of swinging was the key of winning our matches since the lateral G's became to much for any 5-6 year old after a few direct hits directly into the sides of hiw swing (which naturally was the front or the back of the swing since we were sitting sideways on the swings).
What is my next step? Do I need to sue the kid to get the rights to this patent?
There is nothing incompatible between religion and science since, as a newspaper columnist pointed out recently, science is about HOW we came to be here and religion is about WHY we are here.
Incorrect. You can't have a religion without making scientific predictions.
In the case of christianity, it predicts that there is a magical soul inserted into humans at conception, but only for humans. And there are tons of other predictions.
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Never, in any context is it ok to write incorrect information.
Says who? As long as the proper information has been conveyed then what's the harm?
The proper information has not been conveyed at all, look at all the mistakes made in comments below.
I say the harm is when some jack ass tries to correct someone and then isn't correct himself.
I think, in the context of a slashdot forum, anything is okay so long as a reasonable person can discern meaning. mW vs MW is indeed a problem, but kw vs kW??? What exactly did YOU think the 'w' stood for?
Never, in any context is it ok to write incorrect information. And the problem comes when people start writing mw, Mw, mW and MW respectively, and then mixing 1,000 with 1.000. The numbers get way way way off, so it is _never ever_ ok to start messing with units and hoping the reader "gets what you mean" just because you are lazy.
And people correcting other people, they just have to get things correct or it's an epic fail. What is the point if being a smart ass, if you are just another dumb ass who gets it wrong again?
The correct figure is: 52.22 kWh
Are you sure it is 52,000 kWh (kwh is not the right unit btw) and not 52.000 kWh, as it actually says in the summary.
There is a huuuuge, difference. One would be able to run a car at full throttle for an hour, roughly, and the other would be able to run at full throttle for 40 days. (52 kW is an ok size engine).
Now, the summary is bad, cause it distorts the patent application. The summary says 52.220 kWh but the patent says 52.22 kWh.
So the question is now where you got that silly 52 MWh figure from....
You misunderstood my flame. * is ok. But the letters are wrong.
k = kilo, not K
W = Watt, not w
h = hour, not H
It's NOT KW*H! It isn't kw either, nor is it kw*h.
It is however kWh, meaning kilowatt hour, and it is a unit of energy.
Start getting you units right, and capitalization DOES matter. M = mega, m = milli.
For the record, hoods + shackles are a hell of a lot more preferable to tuberculosis, malnutrition, and unsafe water.
I would snap up a chance to do time at Gitmo vs. just about any jail/prison outside of the 1st world.
And I would snap up a chance to do time in any Western European prison instead of being tortured at Gitmo or anal raped in a mainland US prison. You guys aren't treating your prisoners right.
> DNA.
I would have to disagree with DNA as evidence based on the following logic:
If DNA could be considered a programming language would it make more sense to write everything from scratch for each specific creature or to reuse and modify/add-on to existing code? Most programmers wouldn't even bother rewriting the I/O functions needed for nearly all programs to work - instead they reuse code that others or they themselves have created beforehand. I believe DNA would be used by God in the same way, which could explain why there are so many similarities in DNA sequences across vastly different species.
You are completely wrong. The DNA of life on earth does not show evidence of a programmer being able to take parts from a DNA "bank of code" and reusing them when making new animals. If there had been a programmer that could reuse parts at will, the DNA of species would look different to what it does.
In fact, it looks like you can't go from A to B to C if B isn't an organism/mutation that is beneficial to the creature. Here are 3 examples that show that we were evolved, and not designed.
1. All vertebrates have eyes where the blood vessels and nerves of the eye run on top of the retina, in effect blocking out a lot of the light before it reaches the retina. (You can't normally see this because your brain filters out the pattern of the blood vessels). From a design point of view, this is bad design, especially since there are eyes in nature which have blood vessels and nerves on the back side of the retina and not in front of it, for example mollusks. Do you want proof? You have a blind spot, test it yourself. Squids don't. In fact, evolution predicts that vertebrates will have the defect retina since there is no intermediate stage between a vertebrate eye and a mollusk eye that would work better than the already working eyes.
2. Evolution predicts that there be no winged unicorns, centaurs, dragons etc. Why? Because there is no build plan for mammals and reptiles with 3 pairs of limbs since we have evolved from fish with 2 pairs of limbs. A designer could pick and choose and put wings on a horse if he wanted. Evolution can't. See any winged unicorns lately?
3. I assume you are a male (if not, go find a male to check this on). Now take a look at your penis and scrotum. See the little seam there, going all the way from the urethra to your perineum? Why would a designer put a seam there as if you had two parts from the start that was later fused together? Well it is because you actually had the start of a vagina as a small embryo and then later you got your testes and you fused together to your male genitalia, just as if you are evolved from animals like fish that only have one opening. And in fact, males are evolved from females, proving the bible part of god making Eve from Adam being completely wrong.
This is not a philosophical question of "Wouldn't you reuse code". There is actual DNA evidence for evolution and against a designer, but it seems you have not looked at it. Please read up on DNA a bit.
And contraceptives are not even remotely the same thing. They don't terminate a life - they simply prevent it from occuring in the first place.
Totally incorrect. Every sperm is just as alive as every human being or any other being for that matter. Just because they are haploid instead of diploid don't make them any less alive or capable of becoming a complete human, if combined with an egg, they are just the other part of our reproductive cycle.
Imagine someone/something killing of the sperm that became you before your mom and dad had sex. I'm saying good luck to you trying to become who you are today. In my eyes you are equally dead if the sperm is killed off.
I for one am glad that my mom did two abortions before I was born, cause if she hadn't, that lucky combination of sperm and egg that turned into me wouldn't have met and fused. Those two embryos would have turned out to be fine human beings, I'm sure, but I'd rather be alive than them being alive. Of course I'm biased, since I am alive, but you get my point; for me, abortion was my chance to life!
Except, in the case of real inventions, like a toaster for instance, you only have to deal with a couple of patents if you want to build a new one.
With software patents, you have to deal with every single patent on software ever, and there are more patents issued than you can read in say, a year. And there are more to come.
And what is the difference between patenting an algorithm and patenting "1+1=2"? The fact that math wasn't patented 2000+ years ago is a good thing for you and me.
Then give this data to the EU anti-trust prosecutors.
Finally, some program for free just to learn more or have fun. Not necessarilly saying that any or all of the above reasons are bad, only that there are few, if any, programmers who write free software for charity. Most expect to get some sort of benefit out of it. The thing the Africans need to realize is that most programmers prefer to get money in exchange for their coding, and if you don't allow patents, and therefore don't allow programmers to get money in exchange for coding, you have cut off about 98% of your source of new code. You can get some people to work for ego stroking, but most have mortgages to pay and lives to live, and they need money like everyone else. In general, Microsoft is very correct that software costs money, and you aren't going to get it for free.
WHAT? 98%? Did you pull those figures out of your own ass?98% of the source of new code does not come from software patents and I can prove it:
Mac OS X
The code in Mac OS X did not come to be because of software patents, it came to be because Apple paid their programmers to code a kick butt OS so they could sell hardware, and they do, and they sell a lot of hardware. Plus a lot of the code came from NeXT, which Apple bought, and from BSD. And their market share is big. (No, I use Linux, but I bought my mom a Mac)
You must have confused Imaginary Property, Software Patents and Copyrights respectively, otherwise there is no way to get even close to your numbers. What you probably mean is; If you abolish copyright altogether you would remove 98% of the income source for new code. But that is not what this is about at all.
The Minister said software patents was a threat.
Except that your adage doesn't work!
It all depends on where you are situated on the earth, and your prevailing winds. On the west coast of Sweden, in the archipelago, the adage is the other way around. This is because red skies at night means clouds beyond the horizon, which is the Atlantic, and since the prevailing winds are from the west that usually means rain tomorrow. This adage, completely opposite to yours, is valid on he west coast of Sweden, and has been at least since 1896 when my grandpa was born there. And he did keep records of the weather even though he wasn't a true scientist. He observed and noted the weather in his diary every single day for 20 years, and we still have those books.
Science basket 1 - God basket 0
Actually, the most likely HIV patient zero was probably a hunter who got infected by SIV while cutting up chimps. So indirectly, eating bush meat started the AIDS pandemic.
Seriously. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. This is from the BeOS article. ... so Apple turned to a company called NeXT, set up by some nobody called Steve Jobs.
The guy who founded Apple and started the wave of personal copmuters is not a nobody.
Now, I've tried BeOS. It was good, but lacking a lot of apps. And there was not enough
room for more proprietary OSes for the PC market. Think of all the good OSes that died,
BeOS, OS2, MacOS, Plan9, NeXT (the latter surviving a bit because it was transformed into
MacOSX). The only two who can compete with BadVista and MacOSX is Linux and BSD cause
they have enough apps, userbase and a competitive edge in being cheaper to install.
And Amiga kicked AtariSTs butt!
They just said the launch was scrubbed due to fuel issues and they will try again tomorrow.
Arthur C. Clarke books are often very true to science. One of my favourites is Rendevouz with Rama . The first in a trilogy about the encounter of enormous spaceships all of a sudden found racing through our solar system.
Also Isaac Asimovs books are nice. Try starting with I, Robot , which has a much better story than the movie they made.
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-- Strong Bad in Virus
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Janne Suni's attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote "Acid Jazzed Evening" ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
I have prior art to this patent dating back to 1982 or before that.
We used this mode of swinging in the two swings made of rubber tires hanging next to each other outside of this house, effectively making them into bumper cars. The object was to swing into the other guy until he couldn't take it any more.
Important to note is that you actually only need to pull rythmically in one of the chains to get this sideways swinging motion, so our invention is technically far supperior to this kids inferior method of pulling in both chains.
And of course, the oval mode of swinging was the key of winning our matches since the lateral G's became to much for any 5-6 year old after a few direct hits directly into the sides of hiw swing (which naturally was the front or the back of the swing since we were sitting sideways on the swings).
What is my next step? Do I need to sue the kid to get the rights to this
patent?
Incorrect. You can't have a religion without making scientific predictions.
In the case of christianity, it predicts that there is a magical soul inserted
into humans at conception, but only for humans. And there are tons of other predictions.
That means "It is weirdly eroded surface".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Its
I'm not trolling!
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One of the links in the post is of Tethys, not Hyperion. Look for yourself!
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Someone should correct the post.
The image in the post http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/moons /images/PIA07737-br500.jpg is of the moon Tethys and not Hyperion.
It was a double flyby, hence the confusion.