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x86 Linux Flash Player 9 is Final
Schlaegel writes "The official Adobe Linux Flash blog has announced that Flash player for x86 Linux is now final and no longer beta. Every x86 Linux user, at least those willing to load binary software, can rejoice and no longer feel like a second rate citizen. Distribution packages are also available, for example the Macromedia Fedora repository already has the flash player marked for update."
Us Linux users can now watch Zdnet's interview with Torvald about Linux kernel 2.7:)
Hopefully they will create a x64_86 too - then I'll be really happy!
I am not going to remove flashblock from firefox any time soon, I don't expect for flash to become any less annoying and inefficient because of this new release.
I think that you mean software that isn't free/libre/open-source...
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PClinuxOS latest firefox browser. Crashes on a youtube video after 15 seconds. Better syncing though.
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Remind me why I should rejoice again?
Because you will now have the option of punching the monkey in addition to spanking it.
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Don't. But don't think the entire world isn't interested in what you're not interested in. There's plenty of great flash content out there.
What they failed to tell you, was that flash version 723 is being released for windows next week.
im sorry but you must admit that it's necessary to get it if you want to have the full potential for some web sites. maybe i'm not a real linux user but i think it's not a bad thing at all.
Life just wouldn't be complete without the ability to fully experience those spastic dancing silhouettes on lowermybills.com ads.
I somehow managed to remove the annoying yellow plugin prompt from firefox2. I don't know how I eventually did it, I do know that I spent hours trying to get rid of it and the values in about:config don't work.
I was getting ready to gripe about onerous EULA terms, so I started looking around for the actual text and found... nothing? I wasn't asked to accept a license agreement when installing the player, and I don't even see a license file anywhere.
Is it possible that Adobe actually did something really good here?
It wouldn't impact you anyways because the flash player can't be integrated with lynx.
Flash is a proprietary software app that uses proprietary protocols that are becoming ubiquitous on the internet. The new Linux 'Flash 9' will just help to further cement flash as the mainstream format for video content distribution. The linux support can be (and will be) easily dropped at some point in the future when Windows moves to 'flash 14' and Linux is hopelessly stuck on the obsolete 'Flash 13' standard. Seems like this is bad news for OSS, net neutrality, and protocols that are freely available for everyone to use anywhere.
All the kids on my lawn seem to be using this new fangled youtube thingy that apparently needs flash...
Mod me redundant if you wish, but I second this.
As an amd64 linux user since a year and about 5 months, this platform is very mature nowadays and it makes sense to be paid more attention from adobe guys: please learn from nvidia people.
I have a 32bit chroot for any disturbances like this one, but I'm using it less and less.
On the other hand, my own dirty tests show that amd64 behaves about a 15% faster when executing 64bit code than when doing 32bit, so it is not just that 64bit can address more memory: these chips shine at 64bit and deserve a 64bit OS. Sorry but I've not tested intel 64bit CPUs so far.
so, wait, tell me again - how do I compile it?
Do not. Touch. Down.
Let me know when someone does something actually useful in Flash, that wouldn't be better done in plain ol' HTML and images.
PS Adobe suck fat donkey's cock anyway -- how long is it that the universal cross-site-scripting issue was supposedly fixed? (months) and where's the advisory? Still no sign of it. So we don't know which versions are safe and which aren't. I'm grabbing every excuse possible to show colleagues at work that look, I can read PDFs on my Linux machine without tainting it with a 100Mb (yes 100Mb!!!) binary, when Xpdf can do it with 2Mb.
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Anything can be integrated with lynx!
Do not. Touch. Down.
Go make a comment to that adobe site and You'll see that only positive comments are shown...
Flash Player is behaving badly on win, why would it do other on Linux ?
aalib lets you play movies using ascii art. An aalib flash player would actually be pretty cool....
Kids these days!
...now I can get back to work on the Linux port of indi. It's one of the few Flash desktop apps out there, and it's a shame not to have it on Linux.
Besides, it'd be a waste of all that code I wrote for the Evolution extension!
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Well every time linux has some recognition, however insignificant for you (and for me, being it non free binary blob that my powerpc won't see anyway), is yet another nail in the coffin of the "non readiness of linux on the desktop" tale.
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Now I feel like a third rate citizen
The Free Software Foundation is working on an open source implementation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
I think it came installed by default in Firefox last time I installed Ubuntu. Currently doesn't seem to work very well, but the effort is worthwhile, and hopefully the software will improve.
I hate flash, with a passion. It's truly a triumph of style over content. Typically used by sites which sell $1.50 tat with 10,000% markup and call it fashion.
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You can indeed download the Flash specification but the EULA specifically disallows using the information to create a player. The GPL projects implementing Flash are having to reverse engineer everything because of this.
"The official Adobe Linux Flash blog has announced ... rejoice and no longer feel like a second rate citizen."
Congratulations, my Linux bretheren, and welcome to the exciting world of Flash! Take a look at the exciting new multimedia experience before you. Note how the banners and advertisments blink for your attention. Wow! It's just like being at Las Vegas!
Now, head to http://flashblock.mozdev.org/index.html and get Flashblock. Soon, it'll all seem like it was just a bad dream!
The Flash EULA was sort of known for it's inclusion of "can't use this product to verify the working of a similar product" - meaning that you can't, say, write an open source flash player and make sure that your product renders the flash movie in the same was as the original flash player. I went over the EULA and didn't see it. Anyone spot it?
Whenever I watch a YouTube video, sound and image are not synchronized.
If I run VMWare, boot Windows in it and play the videos inside a browser in Windows, the sound IS synchronized...
I always attributed the problem to the GPL flash player I use.
Can anyone else attest to whether or not this will change things?
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hhahhaha. Brilliant response.
hooray for shooting down the elitists.
Sigs are awesome huh?
Flash Player 7 for Linux used OSS. This required loading the ALSA-OSS compatibility modules, or or using aoss. Both methods had occasional quirks. I'll be glad to get rid of my last OSS application.
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I've seen some truly awful EULAs in my day. So far in this one I don't see anything shockingly bad. (See http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/2006/05/15_a 400.html#a400)
So granted, this software isn't free as in speech, but it's also nothing that makes me too worried about installing on my box.
And as always, Gentoo is the first to bring it to its users !
Excuse me? I've been perfectly happy with the lack of Flash content in my Linux-based web-browsing experience to this point.
Um, I've been looking at Flash content (behind Flashblock, of course) for a long time. Why all the talk about this being a new thing, as if it were impossible until now? Isn't it just a version update?
Hopefully then they've fixed the regression in the betas where sound just didn't work at all.
Every on line social forum has users who offer up stuff they found on the net that's ONLY available as flash.
Try converting ANY of the forum members to linux once they learn that they will be left out of a substantial number
of discussions because they can't run the flash player.
This business of holding back linux release for half a year or more is extremely detrimental to linux on the average joe's desktop.
I would not be surprised if many converts went back to windows in order to remain relevant in their social groups.
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There's no excuse for Flash taking 40-50% CPU time of a 1.8 GHz to decode a damn video when traditional video decoders can do it in a fraction of that. Even non-video Flash sometimes makes my laptop step up to the highest frequency, resulting in all the noisy fans ramping up. Ridiculous.
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Do i need to say more?
play linerider
play flow
other stuff
It's all good.
There was no flash 8 for Linux, and a lot of sites were using it. They should all work now with this new player.
JavaScript is almost always usefull (menus, outlining, XMLHttpRequest). Flash is almost always redundant.
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Flash Player 9 is more than just an update to what you all have known as flash. Sure, it will still play older flash content but new content written in Actionscript 3.0 using the new Actionscript Virtual Machine to playback will be way more efficient. The new methodologies for programming have a large base in JAVA, so JAVA developers will have any easy time using this new tool to make true ( rich internet ) applications that have greater ubiquity than JAVA on the web. To be honest, I think it will help take flash away from being a great tool for building horribly intrusive banner ads to being better know as one of the great tools for building rich internet experiences. On the note of proprietary versus open source, sure it is a proprietary program but Macro-Dobe ( Macromedia / Adobe ) have done a great job of using the open source community ( http://www.osflash.org/ ) to push themselves into making a better product. They support the open source development, even if it competes ( http://osflash.org/red5 ) directly with one of their products.
Isn't 'flash' mostly for animations (animated cards for example)?
Isn't mpeg type 4 (mp4?) for making fairly small videos in a (fun?) simplish way?
I don't want to sound like flame bate I'm genuinely cerious
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Flash 7 Linux was nearly in sync with the other plattforms. They took quite some time for FLash 9 (more than a year). According to Macromedia Labs it was because they redid the entire codebase and now can move on faster in xplattform developement. That's why they skipped Flash 8.
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I'm inclined to believe them.
And, being a professional Flash developer who deploys all his webstuff on Linux aswell I am now going to update from Flash MX 2k4 Pro IDE to the newest. Support Flash on Linux and I'll continue using it, drop it and I'll be off to Java/Xul/Whatever before you can say "people want cross-plattform RIA". It's that simple.
Bottom line:
Nice job. Took you long enough. Be faster next time or you'll have one flasher less.
(Now all we need is a fresh batch of O'Reillys to go with ActionScript 3 and I'm set.
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Wonderful idea. A flash desktop. With the fantastic effect that as you move to the mouse the icons swim away from it.
Although the installer claims that Opera is not supported, it is, with ver. 9.02 at any rate. This should be a relief for Opera fans who couldn't use the Flash 9 beta plugin for incompatibility reasons.
What would a mongoose do?
I have a feeling that Nokia was one big reason for Adobe rewriting Flash and doing it properly. Nokia 770 used the old flash implementation while the new Nokia N800 already has Flash9.
I am not sure I want to allow Flash in my browser. With Adblock I am happily free from adverts, but I doubt it has any influence on what happens inside Flash - so it is an all-or-nothing situation. Do I want to watch Flash videos enough that I am willing to tolerate adverts? I don't think so.
``Every x86 Linux user, at least those willing to load binary software, can rejoice and no longer feel like a second rate citizen.''
And, as usual with binary software, users of any of the many other architectures Linux support are left in the cold.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Give me a goddamn x64 build, you bastards! >:(
One of these days, I'm going to cut you into little pieces.
using etch, the binary installer was simple and painless.
Now I'm watching the linus interview on zdnet
I also have the realplayer installed 'cause goddamn npr uses real.
ripping dvd's is simple using dvdrip.
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...the new methodologies for programming...
...true ( rich internet ) applications that have greater ubiquity than JAVA on the web...
...one of the great tools for building rich internet experiences...Ugh. My marketing babble parser segfaulted =:-o
Seriously. We. Don't. Want. Proprietary. Formats.
(posting anonymously untilCool! While you may actually BE a second rate citizen... you no longer have to feel like it! With regard to Flash, anyway. The situation concerning games, applications, and market share still remain the same. But hey! Now that Lunix has Flash and an infinite amount of text editors, even the most disgruntled second rate citizen can be content and happy!
I recently tried to recreate the Compiz Wobbly Windows with Flash 9 and the free Flex SDK. Check out my blog for the demo and more information.
Why not offer your users the option to simply download your material and let them use the player of their choosing?
Yeah right. I want to spend my time and CPU cycles exporting my video to different formats, then the money to host 3 or 4 versions of the same damn video on my website.
No way!
I can just upload any of a half a dozen formats to google video, let them wrap it in flash, then I embed it in my blog. Now grampa can watch videos of his grandson without me explaining the finer points of choosing a media player. My Mac friends can watch my stuff. My Mac&PC family people can watch my stuff. Even my 3 year old son can watch it himself on his computer. Yes that's right at 3 years old he has his own PC, it runs Edubuntu, and he can point and click. I for one welcome our new Flash video overlords! http://ukemike.blogspot.com/
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That nag screen ordering a nonexistent upgrade got real old. And Macromedia _still_ can't seem to get its act together enough to point out that the rpm doesn't work on Core3. (Long story, but I have to run Core 3 for various reasons.)
The thing that really struck me was the little notice saying Actionscript is going to be open-sourced. That got past me when everybody else here probably noticed it. But if Adobe/Macromedia is open sourcing ANYTHING, I'm floored. They used to keep developers in locked cages (I exaggerate only slightly) to make sure no secrets escaped. The next time someone says open source is taking over the world, I'm going to believe them.
damn
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why i should upgrade to their new ****, that will only display MORE ADS?
I'm still staying on x86...why? to have ads on my screen...
That's called 'progress'
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NO stuttering!
Maybe this one will work in my Kubuntu! The beta sucked.
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Excuse me? I've been perfectly happy with the lack of Flash content in my Linux-based web-browsing experience to this point. Remind me why I should rejoice again?
You mean you weren't keeping up with the new transformers movie that's coming out soon (a site which until recently required flash 8)?
Maybe Microsoft can do a paper on the TCO of ideology driven decisions.
Flash is evil.
... welcome my new silent flash overlord on Debian Sarge.
And who says that known audio issues are a showstopper for a multimedia plugin.
Everybody else has.
"Every x86 Linux user, at least those willing to load binary software, can rejoice and no longer feel like a second rate citizen. ".... leaving freebsd users to be the second rate citizens, and other *BSD users to feel even worse (with an exception of openbsd users who would never install some dirty binary).
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I don't know about other people, but the release version of the player is crashing on my Ubuntu machine, just like the beta did. If you're thinking of upgrading from flash 7 to flash 9, make sure to save the version 7 files libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt, because if you go to the adobe web page, they don't seem to give you any option to download version 7 anymore.
Flash is potentially an interesting application platform. It's very appealing to be able to create a program that will run on any OS, with zero install. However, the proprietary nature of the beast is really frustrating. People are doing some very cool stuff with flash-related OSS (see osflash.org). There's a good, solid OSS actionscript 2 compiler (mtasc), which is faster than Adobe's compiler. I'd been wanting to try doing open-source flash apps for a long time, and recently I studied up and messed around, and got the impression that things had really gotten to the point where it was practical to do. But in reality, there were a lot of roadblocks. One was that I couldn't get Flash 9 to work on Linux (and still can't). Another was that Adobe's GUI component library is proprietary, so you have to use alternative libraries (e.g., actionstep), and that means there's no source-code-level compatibility between OSS flash tools and adobe's toolchain. Flash also only supports proprietary audio and video codecs. The long and the short of it seems to be that at this point, flash is still a crippled platform for anyone operating in the OSS/Linux world, and although people like Nicolas Cannasse are working hard and accomplishing an amazing amount with the OSS toolchain, it's just not clear to me that they'll ever catch up to this constantly changing language.
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Long term, Nokia hasn't confirmed upgrades for flash on the 770 nor Opera.
The platform is embedded Linux, dependant on a number of proprietary modules. Longer term, should Nokia abandon upgrades, embedded browsers based on gecko or gtk-webcore may provide the answer, with gnash.
Yes, the sync problem is fixed. Or, if you're like me, you can avoid the Flash and just download the video (VideoDownloader extension) and play it in VLC. In fact, I think that's in ffmpeg now, so probably VLC, mplayer, and whatever else you want.
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I'll refer you to Bug #155528, in which AbiWord 2.4.6 is released, and this bug report is filed on Nov 17th of 2006. Someone bumped the ebuild for the plugins (copied the ebuild file from 2.4.5), and it built and ran just fine, which is what I like about Gentoo -- ridiculously transparent, anyone who can do a little shell scripting can fix issues with packages.
So, you'd think this would be a simple, simple upgrade.... Nope. On Jan 1st of 2007, they bumped AbiWord to 2.4.6, but left the plugins were at 2.4.5, meaning you had a circular dependency loop -- tell Portage to update (-uDN world), and it would upgrade AbiWord to 2.4.6, because that's the latest version. Do it again, and it downgrades to 2.4.5, because that's where the plugins are.
So, one person informs them of this by adding to the report. Someone else says "abiword-plugins needs to be bumped. Thanks." I finally came in Jan 14th, and asked "Is anyone out there?" The next day, it was bumped.
Yes, it took them from Nov 17th to Jan 14th -- almost a month to do a fucking version bump. Rename two files, run one command to generate digests, commit to CVS. And they wonder why people are leaving for Debian and Ubuntu...
One wonders how they would handle a real bug. Actually, I have another one:
A bug in the jabberd init script. Opened 8/14. Found a strange hack to fix it, submitted that the same day, asking someone to tell me why my hack worked, and what the "right way" of doing it would be. 8/16, someone joined the discussion to say my hack worked, but agreed it's a hack... 9/4 something was marked dupe... 9/5 was the first patch that looked like it did the Right Thing. Few more "me too"s, few more dupes... 10/8, another update broke both my hack and the "Right Thing". 10/11, someone finally gave us a completely new init script.
Now, the final script was really the right thing to do, but one has to wonder... It's an init script. How can it be so hard to fix an init script that it takes them almost two months?!
Final exhibit, saved for last because I made a bit of an ass of myself on this one: Enigmail disappears from amd64. Now, I admit, a bug report may not be the right place to bitch about how insanely long this is taking... But still: Filed on 8/07/06, and I have a comment on 9/19 complaining about the lack of Enigmail 0.94.1, which seems to have been released on 8/12. Over a month and no upgrade in sight -- but the existing "stable" build is completely broken. On 9/29, I finally posted my success following someone else's crazy hack that somehow worked, but still no actual fix. Finally fixed on 10/19.
So, over a month with no upgrade (and a broken older version), but the new version was just as broken. Finally fixed two months after the original report. I think I can honestly say that I've only had Apple be slower at dealing with known, verified bug reports.
And I just checked... apparently, my enigmail didn't get automatically rebuilt with my last Thunderbird upgrade. Fortunately, remerging it fixed the problem... I was about to reopen that report.
If others are worse than Gentoo, it makes me think that maybe the idea of a central authority for a Linux distro is no longer workable. Sure, things like Flash will go in right away (and faster on Gentoo, because Portage is easy to work with both technically and legally for that sort of thing), but the less popular things -- like, say, Enigmail and AbiWord -- always seem to be a few months behind. Yes, months, plural -- even Microsoft is starting to look better, with their "Patch Tuesday".
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The problem with Real, QuickTime, Windows Media and all the other video players, is that all they are just stupid video players boxed into a rectangular prison, and not customizable or adaptable in any way. You can't add to their user interface, or fix their horrible design problems. No control over how closed captioning is presented. No transparent video overlays. No extra buttons or links to related videos. No webcam support or two-way video conferencing.
From a user interface design perspective, Flash has an enormous advantage over old-school video players, because developers are able to deeply customize and integrate the video player into their own user interfaces, like Google's and YouTube's video players, the OpenLaszlo YouTube player, or the SimFaux Network TV Fox News Simulation.
The other overwhelming advantage to Flash over all the other video players, is that it's installed on way more platforms than any other existing video player. So the fact that it has almost universal coverage, plus the fact that you can customize the user interface (like YouTube, Google Video, and everyone else does), combine to make Flash the hands-down best way to distribute video over the internet.
Here's an example of what I mean by customization: A set of reusable video playback and recording components that I've developed for OpenLaszlo, which are easy to customize and integrate into your own OpenLaszlo applications:
OpenLaszlo YouTube Player Demo and Source Code
I've been working on developing streaming video support for OpenLaszlo: LZX classes to support improved audio and video, including RTMP streaming via Flash Media Server (aka Flash Communication Server) and also the Red5 Open Source Flash Server, as well as streaming video via http. It supports playback of recorded FLVs, recording from camera and microphone, live two-way (or multi-party) audio/video conferencing, and FLV streaming over http.
It's easy to use the OpenLaszlo video components, because they're nicely integrated with the OpenLaszlo programming model. They expose logical attributes and events which make it easy to integrate video into OpenLaszlo applications.
To test it out the code and demonstrate its functionality, I've developed a simple YouTube Player in OpenLaszlo [click here to open it in a window]. It uses the YouTube ReST Web API, and some simple html screen scraping to get the URL parameters to stream the FLV file directly.
Here is the source for the test application wrapper that puts the YouTube video player in a resizable window, and the more interesting source for the youtubeplayer component, that uses the new OpenLaszlo video classes I'm developing (whose source is in this directory).
The new video classes and the YouTube player demo are now checked into the OpenLaszlo svn repository.
Take a look and feel free: http://www.PieMenu.com
I'm also running on x86_64. I have installed Firefox and flash player under WINE and use that to play flash. Works well.
There are specific things like flashblock, but I've even gone so far as to have Adblock block JavaScript files -- preventing me from seeing that IntelliTXT crap.
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If you just want FLV, mplayer has an aalib output. It's actually pretty useless, but pretty funny... Kind of like aaquake.
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On the plus side, it supports obscure high-end setups better. That'll be nice if I ever add more soundcards, which will happen as soon as I upgrade my head to have more ears.
/dev/dsp and use ioctl() or write() as needed.
The kernel ABI is messy and mostly undocumented. It exposes ugly hardware-specific details. You're expected to use the ALSA libraries, which might not be your cup of tea.
With OSS, you could just open
There are no virtual desktops. How am I supposed to manage a hundred programs running at once?
/home/r00t/project.doc, but no... it is normal to use great big long names with spaces and random punctuation.
/dev/C: device file. If I want to image a DVD on Linux, I just use dd.
The scripting language sucks ass. The only control structure, if you can call it that, is "goto". I kid you not. There is no "for", "while", "case", etc. If I'm not mistaken, there isn't even an ability to define functions.
The command shell sucks ass. It's the same as the scripting language, so no surprise. Quoting support is horrible. This wouldn't be too bad if files had names like
I can't manipulate stuff without dedicated single-purpose tools. On a Linux box I can use the "dd" command to copy a disk partition to a file, copy a chunk out of the middle of a file into another file, and so on. Windows lacks a similar tool, and anyway it wouldn't work without something like a
Then of course we must devote most of the processing power to a damn virus scanner.
How do people get any work done?
But it still doesn't show certain things the same way as the Windows version. Like in Windows, if you go to www.peugeot.com then the menus are accessible and display in front of the animated screen. In Linux, what I think happens is the menus extend BEHIND that graphic so they're invisible / not usable.
same environment...same result
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You should use the nspluginwrapper: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-532587.html
Works perfectly here on my x86_64 Gentoo installation.
Hack your mind out of its sandbox.
...though I don't have one to give, since I've been a fan of Flash ever since 1998. Still rocks... still a bit unstable, (design-time) but rocks when it's working well enough.
As for being "ignorant of Windows"... I'm sorry, but you have us mistaken with Mac Users.
Apart from an unruly bunch that were schooled in *nix from the start, (and the Commodore/Amiga camp) the Linux community is largely divorced from Windows; along with the metaphoric implication that we were once married to it.
Many of those who had early exposure to Macs (with the first PowerPC being the obvious exception) were instantly smitten and have remained in the Mac camp ever since.
So, before you brandish your label-gun with "I know squat about Windoze." queued-up, consider that many in the Linux camp are merely Windows refugees; we eventually learned that popularity does not equal quality.
For that matter; with TFA speaking about Flash—typically Win32 platform—it makes sense that most of us interested enough to contribute (CINT) would have experience on that platform.
In any case, I for one welcome our new animated-content-plus-streaming-video overlords.
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/install_flash_player_9_linux# ./flashplayer-installer
ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
Adobe Flash Player installer.
guess i'll be waiting for gnuflash
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Now, can you please get to work on releasing CS2 (or CS3) for Linux? Please?
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