It didn't take 200 years to get the ozone level where it is. CFCs were first invented in the mid 1930's, and production and use didn't really amount to much untill the '50s and '60s. The Montreal treaty which called for reductions and eventual phasing out of CFCs was in the mid eighties, so that's only about thirty years of heavy use. And the hole isn't closed yet, it's just that the rate of growth has finally slowed to pretty much nothing.
Mountains are highly unstable, there is either techtonic activity or erosion (with the attendant landslide/avalanche) going on. Clearing those trees and logs is going to do a lot to unsettle that soil around your house...
You think we're only going to be paying for this as taxpayers? A significant amount of our fuel refinery capacity is in New Orleans. Just wait till you have to fill your tank or pay your heating/electric bill. Or purchase goods that have been shipped to the store. Compared to our already waning fuel supply... this is gonna be fun. Might be time to break out my bicycle to get to work (92 Caprice station wagons don't get the best gas mileage in the world.)
Acrylamide is not PUT into French Fries. It is the result of heating up starches. So, french fries will have them, so will pasta and bread and cookies and pretzels and any starchy cooked food. French fries WILL have more of them, however, because of the higher temperature they are cooked at.
Artificial sweeteners are indeed bad for you, but it's pretty much a wash between them and sugar laden soda, so yeah. I should reach for a glass of water, or at least unsweetened green tea.
It has been shown that dietary aluminum does not cause alzheimers, but that alzheimers leads to a buildup of aluminum in the brain.
And free radicals aren't really something that you ingest, it's something that comes about naturally from our metabolism. The problem with our current diet is that it lacks the antioxidants necessary to counteract them.
Guar gum in sour cream: guar gum is not bad for you. It is a naturally occuring gum, originally derived from the bean of the guar tree. Gums are simply fiber. Much healthier way of thickening food than butter and flour, actually. Just difficult to use in a kitchen situation.
Yes, foods that are overprocessed in the American fast food/snack style ARE bad for you. No doubt bleached white flour with all the nutrition taken out mixed with sugar and shortening is not good for you. We need more veggies in the diet (in fact the Atkin's diet which most people lambast as being just bacon and lard is higher in leafy, brightly colored veggies (bright ciolors meaning more vitamins and antioxidants) than the diets of anybody I personally know... even vegetarians. But it is low in some fruits)
But your grandfather living to 104 is not proof that our diet is killing us. The average life expectancy is much lower for someone born in 1900 than someone being born in the 1950s or right now. It is also much rarer to see people starving on the street. In fact obesity is a much bigger problem than undernourishment (malnourishment is a different thing completely, and spicy hot cheetos and soda are definately not healthy.)
But yeah, we do need more veggies in our life. But what we really need is more time to properly enjoy our food so we don't need the huge blast of sweet fatty flavor to think we are satisfied. Enough time to be able to cook a meal and sit down and enjoy it once in a while. Enough time to eat slowly so that our body can tell our brain it's full. Enough time to just be, so that we're not totally stressed out from work day in and day out.
Hmm... odd thing about French people being healthier... one thing that they do which every American health institution says is unhealthy is smoke like chimneys (I don't have statistics, but at least that's the stereotype)
I strongly feel that it is not so much what we are putting in our bodies that is bad for us, but what we are NOT putting in our bodies that might eventually bring our life expectancy down.
Hmm... certifications is one area where I think security by obscurity is perfectly valid... otherwise people will just study the test before they go in.
Err, yeah. Meant Oregon. That's the problem with being a visual thinker as opposed to verbal: I actually pictured a map in my head when I was trying to remember which state this was in. Ahh... and after a little research, it appears that it's not so much a job creating measure as a safety measure. Oregon (along with New Jersey) implemented the law because they only wanted professionals pumping this possibly dangerous fluid into your car. Makes a little more sense to me, although I really can't recall hearing of any accidents accidentally caused by someone pumping their own gas. I suppose it will also lead to less incidents like this.
Waaaay offtopic, but found this odd little site examining how spaghetti breaks while trying to find the video clip. (Not like I was ontopic anyways, talking about pumping gas in a barcode topic.)
Another advantage libraries have to not having clients reshelf books is then the librarian can get a good estimate on usage of particular titles, and so flag them for replacement/repairs, or help in deciding which periodicals to keep subscriptions to.
You don't have to program the RFID tag on the spot. You just have an RFID tag on a produce bag. Put produce in bag, weigh on scale, enter the PLU. Scale then tells the computer system how much that RFID is worth and then computer charges when you walk out. Invisible to the end user. Relatively easy to set up in a grocery store.
And then the minimum $400 (WAG... not in the business myself) for the computer to be able to actually do something with that bar code. Granted, you'd need it anyways with RFID so it is kindof a wash.
You really think the fact that small stores won't be able to get RFID functionality will stop it? If anything it will push those small stores out of the market as they lose the ability to compete with walmart.
IIRC people in Washington state still use full service gas stations, as it is illegal to have a pay at the pump. Something about job preservation, yadda yadda. Although with gas prices now, that has probably changed.
I think half of the do it yourself lines is that you put them in that little bagging area. That bagging area checks the weight or something to make sure you aren't putting in the wrong thing, or more or... something like that. I rarely use them, they usually just don't work well.
Have you ever been hit by a fire hose? That is probably more lethal than most nonlethal (or the term I particalarilly like is "less than lethal.") And while I doubt these weapons will replace the gun much, what they will probably replace is the baton.
I really don't care if they have more nukes than we do. What really matters to me is that they have more nukes than we have major cities. And I personally live in a city major enough to get hit. As does probably around 90% (OOMA guess) of Slashdot, and probably at least 99.5% of people that I personally know.
True, if you do that with a glass of water, there won't be much difference. But try it with a 14,000 foot (the average depth of the oceans) column of water and there will be some difference. But the primary reason ocean levels are expected to rise is still the landlocked ice (glaciers, primarilly) melting. Although this will be somewhat offset by the increase of evaporation due to the higher temperatures. Unfortunately this increase of evaporation will lead to superstorms unlike any hurricane we've ever seen. (Or maybe fortunately if you happen to be a misanthrop.)
Actually it's been shown that caffeine loses the diuretic affect among regular consumers of it. I know that I can personally down a two liter of diet coke and not have to particularilly run to the john.
It is a fact that large numbers of doctors are vitamin deficient.
I wouldn't take a doctor's health as the paradigm of a physical example. Most doctors that I have actually met are in rather poor shape. I'm not trying to insult them, it's just that the stress of their job means that there is not enough time to exercise properly and prepare healthy foods. Also it has been shown that stress will lead people to make poor food choices as well. They damn well know the results of their lifestyle choices, but are still powerless to change. Maybe not powerless, just...
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It's not so much that the EPA abused statistics over the case, as the scientists doing the study flat out lied. They threw out any data that did not agree with their foregone conclusion that second hand smoke is dangerous.
Now, I think there should be limits to where smoking is allowed: definately no hospitals or government buildings. I'm likely to say no restaurants unless there is a very good setup seperating the smoking from nonsmoking areas. But leave coffee houses and bars alone... those are places that I feel only adults should be anyways, so it should be up to their own choice whether to be there. If enough people wanted to go to the bar/coffee house without a smoky atmosphere, then non-smoking bars and coffee houses would open up. (Hint, I've seen a couple non-smoking bars open up, and they usually close within a couple months. Coffee houses used to be that way, but now more and more existing ones are switching to non-smoking.)
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That is indeed a very strong correlation. It either means that obesity (or at least a lifestyle which leads to obesity) causes diabetes (type II anyways) or that diabetes contributes to obesity. Actually I wouldn't doubt that there is a catch 22 type situation where diabetes can contribute to a person growing overweight. The blood sugar spikes and lack of hormonal control would A)encourage overeating by signaling that the body is hungry earlier, and craving sweet foods which cause blood sugar jumps. B)disuade exercise by making it more difficult to exercise due to lack of control of the sugars which fuel muscles. C)insulin physically controls how fat is burnt in the body. Insulin in the blood directs the body to store sugar as fat, lack of insulin allows fat to be burned as energy.
My guess is that it actually ends up being a catch-22 type situation. People who eat sugary foods and don't exercise regularly put themselves at a higher disposition for pre-diabetes (a medically accepted state where one's insulin is not functioning quite right.) and being in pre-diabetes can help lead to physical addictions to sugars and eating.
You know what? I find it a bit insulting and shortsighted when people scream "hypocritical" over an entire community over every little thing that one member says. Guess what: individuals within a community are allowed to have different thoughts on topics. You know what? This is just proof that the whole "groupthink" and "slashvertisements" that you AC trolls always complain about do NOT exist (Gross generalization for dramatic irony only.)
Oh, and you should learn the definition of hypocrite as well as you know the spelling before using it. According to Wikipedia, Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have morals or virtues that one does not truly possess or practise. What you are referring to is a double standard, where rules are different for different groups of people. Double standards are GENERALLY considered a bad thing, except often times there is a different impact between one group doing something versus another group doing the same thing. A government (or rather corporation as this is what slashdotters have a problem with, as that is where all the C&D letters and lawsuits are coming from, not a governmental agency) violating someone's privacy without due process can indeed be very different than an individual doing the same.
Particularilly since the reason that Slashdotters fear (or at the very least distrust) governments and large corporations is their power to prevent free speech. Free speech is what many slashdotters value as they believe it is highly important in maintaining an effective representative democracy. A certain expectation of privacy is necesary to maintain free of harrasment from stating an opinion, and that is the primary reason that many within the slashdot community are interested in privacy.
Most members of the Slashdot community would have no problem with feds obtaining information AFTER getting a warrant. The problem they have is the current political climate (Referring to the United States, but still applicable elsewhere) is such that feds (or most police for that matter) pretty much don't need to get a warrant, thus erasing the paper trail, the checks and balances and the responsibility and culpability of the investigators when they are gathering information or otherwise performing survailance. Whether or not this power is being abused is an entirely different matter. The potential for abuse is however, there, and that is why Slashdotters are so against unlimited government power in investigation. And this power seems to be extending to large corporations as well, while individuals seem to have little recourse in finding information about the company and it's motives and workings.
Way I see it, the time I spend on Slashdot is about the equivalent of the time that most people (fine... most Americans) spend watching TV. It's slightly more educational, and a little more social (Don't worry, I also have real life friends... in fact topics that come up on Slashdot can make interesting topics of conversation in real life.) If nothing else, reading Slashdot can give a sense of how NOT to construct an argument.
I think what Harmony is saying is that there are logical reasons for humans to have emotions. What people are taking this to mean is that emotions are the result of a logical decision to feel that particular emotion at that time, which I do not think she is intending to say.
That, and movie screens have reached the point where bigger is not a better experience. As a kid and teenager, front row center was always the best spot to watch a movie from and the first taken. Now that's too close to realistically watch a movie from, so center first row of the stadium section becomes the prime spot (good view in addition to leg room.) If you get there late enough that all the stadium seats are taken up, the sides of the ground seats fill up before the middle, as the angle means less head movement.
If a screen becomes any bigger, that just means that they will be able to show to more people and the theatre will be able to pay less per person to the studios (assuming that that particular movie has a pay per play agreement.) This also means that there is going to be a great increase in the chance that that annoying person will be in the theatre.
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It didn't take 200 years to get the ozone level where it is. CFCs were first invented in the mid 1930's, and production and use didn't really amount to much untill the '50s and '60s. The Montreal treaty which called for reductions and eventual phasing out of CFCs was in the mid eighties, so that's only about thirty years of heavy use. And the hole isn't closed yet, it's just that the rate of growth has finally slowed to pretty much nothing.
Mountains are highly unstable, there is either techtonic activity or erosion (with the attendant landslide/avalanche) going on. Clearing those trees and logs is going to do a lot to unsettle that soil around your house...
You think we're only going to be paying for this as taxpayers? A significant amount of our fuel refinery capacity is in New Orleans. Just wait till you have to fill your tank or pay your heating/electric bill. Or purchase goods that have been shipped to the store. Compared to our already waning fuel supply... this is gonna be fun. Might be time to break out my bicycle to get to work (92 Caprice station wagons don't get the best gas mileage in the world.)
A couple of things wrong with your point:
Acrylamide is not PUT into French Fries. It is the result of heating up starches. So, french fries will have them, so will pasta and bread and cookies and pretzels and any starchy cooked food. French fries WILL have more of them, however, because of the higher temperature they are cooked at.
Artificial sweeteners are indeed bad for you, but it's pretty much a wash between them and sugar laden soda, so yeah. I should reach for a glass of water, or at least unsweetened green tea.
It has been shown that dietary aluminum does not cause alzheimers, but that alzheimers leads to a buildup of aluminum in the brain.
And free radicals aren't really something that you ingest, it's something that comes about naturally from our metabolism. The problem with our current diet is that it lacks the antioxidants necessary to counteract them. Guar gum in sour cream: guar gum is not bad for you. It is a naturally occuring gum, originally derived from the bean of the guar tree. Gums are simply fiber. Much healthier way of thickening food than butter and flour, actually. Just difficult to use in a kitchen situation.
Yes, foods that are overprocessed in the American fast food/snack style ARE bad for you. No doubt bleached white flour with all the nutrition taken out mixed with sugar and shortening is not good for you. We need more veggies in the diet (in fact the Atkin's diet which most people lambast as being just bacon and lard is higher in leafy, brightly colored veggies (bright ciolors meaning more vitamins and antioxidants) than the diets of anybody I personally know... even vegetarians. But it is low in some fruits)
But your grandfather living to 104 is not proof that our diet is killing us. The average life expectancy is much lower for someone born in 1900 than someone being born in the 1950s or right now. It is also much rarer to see people starving on the street. In fact obesity is a much bigger problem than undernourishment (malnourishment is a different thing completely, and spicy hot cheetos and soda are definately not healthy.)
But yeah, we do need more veggies in our life. But what we really need is more time to properly enjoy our food so we don't need the huge blast of sweet fatty flavor to think we are satisfied. Enough time to be able to cook a meal and sit down and enjoy it once in a while. Enough time to eat slowly so that our body can tell our brain it's full. Enough time to just be, so that we're not totally stressed out from work day in and day out.
Hmm... odd thing about French people being healthier... one thing that they do which every American health institution says is unhealthy is smoke like chimneys (I don't have statistics, but at least that's the stereotype)
I strongly feel that it is not so much what we are putting in our bodies that is bad for us, but what we are NOT putting in our bodies that might eventually bring our life expectancy down.
Hmm... certifications is one area where I think security by obscurity is perfectly valid... otherwise people will just study the test before they go in.
Err, yeah. Meant Oregon. That's the problem with being a visual thinker as opposed to verbal: I actually pictured a map in my head when I was trying to remember which state this was in. Ahh... and after a little research, it appears that it's not so much a job creating measure as a safety measure. Oregon (along with New Jersey) implemented the law because they only wanted professionals pumping this possibly dangerous fluid into your car. Makes a little more sense to me, although I really can't recall hearing of any accidents accidentally caused by someone pumping their own gas. I suppose it will also lead to less incidents like this.
Waaaay offtopic, but found this odd little site examining how spaghetti breaks while trying to find the video clip. (Not like I was ontopic anyways, talking about pumping gas in a barcode topic.)
Another advantage libraries have to not having clients reshelf books is then the librarian can get a good estimate on usage of particular titles, and so flag them for replacement/repairs, or help in deciding which periodicals to keep subscriptions to.
You don't have to program the RFID tag on the spot. You just have an RFID tag on a produce bag. Put produce in bag, weigh on scale, enter the PLU. Scale then tells the computer system how much that RFID is worth and then computer charges when you walk out. Invisible to the end user. Relatively easy to set up in a grocery store.
6. Get fired for not scanning every item individually. 7... 8. Profit?
And then the minimum $400 (WAG... not in the business myself) for the computer to be able to actually do something with that bar code. Granted, you'd need it anyways with RFID so it is kindof a wash.
You really think the fact that small stores won't be able to get RFID functionality will stop it? If anything it will push those small stores out of the market as they lose the ability to compete with walmart.
IIRC people in Washington state still use full service gas stations, as it is illegal to have a pay at the pump. Something about job preservation, yadda yadda. Although with gas prices now, that has probably changed.
I think half of the do it yourself lines is that you put them in that little bagging area. That bagging area checks the weight or something to make sure you aren't putting in the wrong thing, or more or... something like that. I rarely use them, they usually just don't work well.
Have you ever been hit by a fire hose? That is probably more lethal than most nonlethal (or the term I particalarilly like is "less than lethal.") And while I doubt these weapons will replace the gun much, what they will probably replace is the baton.
I really don't care if they have more nukes than we do. What really matters to me is that they have more nukes than we have major cities. And I personally live in a city major enough to get hit. As does probably around 90% (OOMA guess) of Slashdot, and probably at least 99.5% of people that I personally know.
True, if you do that with a glass of water, there won't be much difference. But try it with a 14,000 foot (the average depth of the oceans) column of water and there will be some difference. But the primary reason ocean levels are expected to rise is still the landlocked ice (glaciers, primarilly) melting. Although this will be somewhat offset by the increase of evaporation due to the higher temperatures. Unfortunately this increase of evaporation will lead to superstorms unlike any hurricane we've ever seen. (Or maybe fortunately if you happen to be a misanthrop.)
Actually it's been shown that caffeine loses the diuretic affect among regular consumers of it. I know that I can personally down a two liter of diet coke and not have to particularilly run to the john.
It is a fact that large numbers of doctors are vitamin deficient.
I wouldn't take a doctor's health as the paradigm of a physical example. Most doctors that I have actually met are in rather poor shape. I'm not trying to insult them, it's just that the stress of their job means that there is not enough time to exercise properly and prepare healthy foods. Also it has been shown that stress will lead people to make poor food choices as well. They damn well know the results of their lifestyle choices, but are still powerless to change. Maybe not powerless, just...
It's not so much that the EPA abused statistics over the case, as the scientists doing the study flat out lied. They threw out any data that did not agree with their foregone conclusion that second hand smoke is dangerous.
Now, I think there should be limits to where smoking is allowed: definately no hospitals or government buildings. I'm likely to say no restaurants unless there is a very good setup seperating the smoking from nonsmoking areas. But leave coffee houses and bars alone... those are places that I feel only adults should be anyways, so it should be up to their own choice whether to be there. If enough people wanted to go to the bar/coffee house without a smoky atmosphere, then non-smoking bars and coffee houses would open up. (Hint, I've seen a couple non-smoking bars open up, and they usually close within a couple months. Coffee houses used to be that way, but now more and more existing ones are switching to non-smoking.)
From the American Diabetes association: nearly 9 out of 10 people with newly diagnosed type 2 diabetes are overweight. That sounds like it's linked to diet and exercise. How to prevent diabetes? Diet and exersise.
That is indeed a very strong correlation. It either means that obesity (or at least a lifestyle which leads to obesity) causes diabetes (type II anyways) or that diabetes contributes to obesity. Actually I wouldn't doubt that there is a catch 22 type situation where diabetes can contribute to a person growing overweight. The blood sugar spikes and lack of hormonal control would A)encourage overeating by signaling that the body is hungry earlier, and craving sweet foods which cause blood sugar jumps. B)disuade exercise by making it more difficult to exercise due to lack of control of the sugars which fuel muscles. C)insulin physically controls how fat is burnt in the body. Insulin in the blood directs the body to store sugar as fat, lack of insulin allows fat to be burned as energy.
My guess is that it actually ends up being a catch-22 type situation. People who eat sugary foods and don't exercise regularly put themselves at a higher disposition for pre-diabetes (a medically accepted state where one's insulin is not functioning quite right.) and being in pre-diabetes can help lead to physical addictions to sugars and eating.
I get the feeling that it was originally a pun more than a mistake. Or maybe that's just how my mind works...
You know what? I find it a bit insulting and shortsighted when people scream "hypocritical" over an entire community over every little thing that one member says. Guess what: individuals within a community are allowed to have different thoughts on topics. You know what? This is just proof that the whole "groupthink" and "slashvertisements" that you AC trolls always complain about do NOT exist (Gross generalization for dramatic irony only.)
Oh, and you should learn the definition of hypocrite as well as you know the spelling before using it. According to Wikipedia, Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have morals or virtues that one does not truly possess or practise. What you are referring to is a double standard, where rules are different for different groups of people. Double standards are GENERALLY considered a bad thing, except often times there is a different impact between one group doing something versus another group doing the same thing. A government (or rather corporation as this is what slashdotters have a problem with, as that is where all the C&D letters and lawsuits are coming from, not a governmental agency) violating someone's privacy without due process can indeed be very different than an individual doing the same.
Particularilly since the reason that Slashdotters fear (or at the very least distrust) governments and large corporations is their power to prevent free speech. Free speech is what many slashdotters value as they believe it is highly important in maintaining an effective representative democracy. A certain expectation of privacy is necesary to maintain free of harrasment from stating an opinion, and that is the primary reason that many within the slashdot community are interested in privacy.
Most members of the Slashdot community would have no problem with feds obtaining information AFTER getting a warrant. The problem they have is the current political climate (Referring to the United States, but still applicable elsewhere) is such that feds (or most police for that matter) pretty much don't need to get a warrant, thus erasing the paper trail, the checks and balances and the responsibility and culpability of the investigators when they are gathering information or otherwise performing survailance. Whether or not this power is being abused is an entirely different matter. The potential for abuse is however, there, and that is why Slashdotters are so against unlimited government power in investigation. And this power seems to be extending to large corporations as well, while individuals seem to have little recourse in finding information about the company and it's motives and workings.
Way I see it, the time I spend on Slashdot is about the equivalent of the time that most people (fine... most Americans) spend watching TV. It's slightly more educational, and a little more social (Don't worry, I also have real life friends... in fact topics that come up on Slashdot can make interesting topics of conversation in real life.) If nothing else, reading Slashdot can give a sense of how NOT to construct an argument.
I think what Harmony is saying is that there are logical reasons for humans to have emotions. What people are taking this to mean is that emotions are the result of a logical decision to feel that particular emotion at that time, which I do not think she is intending to say.
That, and movie screens have reached the point where bigger is not a better experience. As a kid and teenager, front row center was always the best spot to watch a movie from and the first taken. Now that's too close to realistically watch a movie from, so center first row of the stadium section becomes the prime spot (good view in addition to leg room.) If you get there late enough that all the stadium seats are taken up, the sides of the ground seats fill up before the middle, as the angle means less head movement.
If a screen becomes any bigger, that just means that they will be able to show to more people and the theatre will be able to pay less per person to the studios (assuming that that particular movie has a pay per play agreement.) This also means that there is going to be a great increase in the chance that that annoying person will be in the theatre.