I think it's more funny how people like him think they are entitled to get any number of movies, music, games, etc for free without paying as if they are owed them. Yet, I bet if you asked these same people if it was perfectly okay for their boss to no longer pay them a salary for their work because the boss didn't feel like it, they'd be all up in a tizzy.
Windows 2k has less than 1% market share and is 9 years old at this point. I doubt there would be very much backfire from that.
Would you buy a product from a company that totally abandons the existing product as soon as they release a new one?
Yes, because not continuing to backport fixes to a 9 year old operating system clearly would show that Microsoft just abandons products as soon as they release a new one. *rolls eyes* Name a single Loonix distro that backports security fixes to a version of their distro that is 9 years old and you might be able to make something resembling a point.
What monopoly? Is IBM, SAP, Microsoft, Sybase, etc all just going to disappear and give up competing with Oracle just because Oracle now owns MySQL? Exactly what market are they going to corner with such fierce competition from other huge multi-national corps.
SUN and Oracle are not that important. There's IBM, MS, SAP, Compaq, and a few other vendors that are praying to their personal god that the EC knocks Oracle on their ass.
Which goes to show that the EC's actions are total bullshit. If there are all these other vendors in line to see Oracle fall then there is clearly no monopolization going on just because Oracle buys some dinky FOSS database.
Provided Oracle/Sun breaks EU law, it's an entirely reasonable course of action for the EU to restrict the company's copyright.
Not without actual backing from the WTO.
See for example one of the many small island nations dependant on gambling. They (and the WTO) agree that the US ban on online gambling does not constitute fair traiding policies. In return, American copyrights are null and void/in that country/, _up to a certain amount_.
That's because Antigua won their case in front of the WTO. Antigua wasn't able to do so just because they felt like it.
The whole "Can't sustain development without being able to sell proprietary licenses" is bunk.
No, it's not bunk. Monty Wideanus is quite correct that services model can not sustain MySQL's cost. But if Monty was so worried about the fate of MySQL then maybe the jackass shouldn't have sold it in the first place, no? This sounds like seller's remorse on his part.
Plenty of opensource projects thrive without being able to sell proprietary licenses. Linux springs to mind.
This means you need to have alternatives and not a (virtual) monopoly / oligopoly, so I think it's a great move of EC to object to this merger because there is a serious concern that the number of alternatives will shrink (even though MySQL has an open source license). Just my 2 cents.....
Because all the competitors in the DB market are some how going to vanish because Oracle owns MySQL? Are you seriously trying to claim that MySQL is the only other DB in existence beyond Oracle's? And that MySQL is really even a competitor in the enterprise markets that Oracle is? Oracle's competitors are MS SQL, IBM DB2, Sybase, etc not some dinky piece of crap like MySQL.
Giving away free (gratis) access to some proprietary technology is nothing more than a complex marketing ploy to try to attract more commercial licensee in the long term, by gaining more fans and hackers in the short term. The basic idea is "let the Indie market play around with the engine, and if some group emerge with a new killer-app, they'll have to license our engine".
Oh noes! Epic actually wants people to use their technology and make money from it! The horror! The horror!
This is a free dev kit, not an id-style open source release of the engine (title was kind of misleading).
Where did the title or summary say this was a source release? It's a free release of a dev kit for non commercial use. Which is what the summary and the links say. That you assumed it meant something other than what was explicitly stated is your own poor reading comprehension skills at work.
How can it be a "catch" when they clearly state the terms of use of this? From here:
Use of the UDK for noncommercial purposes is free of charge. If you are going to use the UDK for any commercial purpose or in any way that is not specifically authorized in the end-user license agreement (EULA), you must agree to appropriate commercial terms. You can read more about these options below.
And those prefixes aren't the sole purview of the organizations that define SI. They were being used in science and technical fields long before SI.
But even before SI existed Kilo still meant 10^3. Mega still meant 10^6 and Giga still meant 10^9. They never meant 2^10, 2^20, or 2^30 before being corrupted.
So the only real difference here is that with Skype you don't have to pick a service provider, which means that you don't get to choose the one that is going to be most suitable for you.
I'm pretty sure most people installed Skype because they made the determination that it was the most suitable for themselves. I don't see any reason why someone would be using Skype if they didn't it suitable for their use.
Linux was originally a UNIX clone, before Mark Shuttleworth got hold of it.
No it wasn't. Linux was a Minix clone which was a clone of Unix.
So to me it makes more sense for Linux to resemble BSD than Windows.
How did anything you critique about Ubuntu have any resemblance to anything in Windows? Other than purely superficial cosmetics, there is nothing about the internals of Ubuntu that match anything in Windows.
Oh and if Lactating Llama doesn't capture the desktop, everyone knows that 10.4 Masturbating Moose is going to do it! It's got an even shittier-brown colored theme and it's going to have undergone a serious tweaking of it's packaging of FSpot, Tomboy, Firefox, OOo that will totally r0x0r your b0x0r5.
Oombooboo 9.10 Lactating Llama is going to take the desktop by storm! It's got a brand new shit-brown theme and it's got a superior combination of FSpot, Tomboy, Firefox, OOo than any of it's predecessor versions!
Petrus4 has a history of blaming anything wrong in the Linux world or FOSS world at large as being Microsoft's fault. KDE sucks? Oh that's cause of Microsoft. Gnome sucks? Oh yeah, that's always Microsoft's fault. Lather, rinse, repeat for any other program/distro/etc that he dislikes.
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Nice non sequitur.
I think it's more funny how people like him think they are entitled to get any number of movies, music, games, etc for free without paying as if they are owed them. Yet, I bet if you asked these same people if it was perfectly okay for their boss to no longer pay them a salary for their work because the boss didn't feel like it, they'd be all up in a tizzy.
3% is a pretty small percentage.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! I broke the rules that I agreed to before using the service and then I got banned just a the user agreement said. Oh woe is me!!!!
Not fixing would backfire.
Windows 2k has less than 1% market share and is 9 years old at this point. I doubt there would be very much backfire from that.
Would you buy a product from a company that totally abandons the existing product as soon as they release a new one?
Yes, because not continuing to backport fixes to a 9 year old operating system clearly would show that Microsoft just abandons products as soon as they release a new one. *rolls eyes* Name a single Loonix distro that backports security fixes to a version of their distro that is 9 years old and you might be able to make something resembling a point.
No, this was a targeted patch to kill netbooks
Really? So you were able to see all the source code of the patch to make this statement?
No, it was neither. It's a falsely attributed quote.
What monopoly? Is IBM, SAP, Microsoft, Sybase, etc all just going to disappear and give up competing with Oracle just because Oracle now owns MySQL? Exactly what market are they going to corner with such fierce competition from other huge multi-national corps.
SUN and Oracle are not that important. There's IBM, MS, SAP, Compaq, and a few other vendors that are praying to their personal god that the EC knocks Oracle on their ass.
Which goes to show that the EC's actions are total bullshit. If there are all these other vendors in line to see Oracle fall then there is clearly no monopolization going on just because Oracle buys some dinky FOSS database.
Provided Oracle/Sun breaks EU law, it's an entirely reasonable course of action for the EU to restrict the company's copyright.
Not without actual backing from the WTO.
See for example one of the many small island nations dependant on gambling. /in that country/, _up to a certain amount_.
They (and the WTO) agree that the US ban on online gambling does not constitute fair traiding policies.
In return, American copyrights are null and void
That's because Antigua won their case in front of the WTO. Antigua wasn't able to do so just because they felt like it.
The whole "Can't sustain development without being able to sell proprietary licenses" is bunk.
No, it's not bunk. Monty Wideanus is quite correct that services model can not sustain MySQL's cost. But if Monty was so worried about the fate of MySQL then maybe the jackass shouldn't have sold it in the first place, no? This sounds like seller's remorse on his part.
Plenty of opensource projects thrive without being able to sell proprietary licenses. Linux springs to mind.
That's because they have corporate sponsors.
This means you need to have alternatives and not a (virtual) monopoly / oligopoly, so I think it's a great move of EC to object to this merger because there is a serious concern that the number of alternatives will shrink (even though MySQL has an open source license). Just my 2 cents.....
Because all the competitors in the DB market are some how going to vanish because Oracle owns MySQL? Are you seriously trying to claim that MySQL is the only other DB in existence beyond Oracle's? And that MySQL is really even a competitor in the enterprise markets that Oracle is? Oracle's competitors are MS SQL, IBM DB2, Sybase, etc not some dinky piece of crap like MySQL.
So their fear is not that Oracle would be a monopoly, but that it comes too close to being able to corner the market.
But how can they corner the market when there are at least half a dozen or more competitors?
Giving away free (gratis) access to some proprietary technology is nothing more than a complex marketing ploy to try to attract more commercial licensee in the long term, by gaining more fans and hackers in the short term. The basic idea is "let the Indie market play around with the engine, and if some group emerge with a new killer-app, they'll have to license our engine".
Oh noes! Epic actually wants people to use their technology and make money from it! The horror! The horror!
This is a free dev kit, not an id-style open source release of the engine (title was kind of misleading).
Where did the title or summary say this was a source release? It's a free release of a dev kit for non commercial use. Which is what the summary and the links say. That you assumed it meant something other than what was explicitly stated is your own poor reading comprehension skills at work.
How can it be a "catch" when they clearly state the terms of use of this? From here:
Use of the UDK for noncommercial purposes is free of charge. If you are going to use the UDK for any commercial purpose or in any way that is not specifically authorized in the end-user license agreement (EULA), you must agree to appropriate commercial terms. You can read more about these options below.
And those prefixes aren't the sole purview of the organizations that define SI. They were being used in science and technical fields long before SI.
But even before SI existed Kilo still meant 10^3. Mega still meant 10^6 and Giga still meant 10^9. They never meant 2^10, 2^20, or 2^30 before being corrupted.
I'm pretty sure they installed Skype because they didn't know there were any alternatives. To a lot of people, Skype and VoIP are synonymous.
And yet they wouldn't continue to use it if they didn't find it suitable for their own use.
So basically it's highly useless for the loads of people because they want the video function.
So the only real difference here is that with Skype you don't have to pick a service provider, which means that you don't get to choose the one that is going to be most suitable for you.
I'm pretty sure most people installed Skype because they made the determination that it was the most suitable for themselves. I don't see any reason why someone would be using Skype if they didn't it suitable for their use.
Linux was originally a UNIX clone, before Mark Shuttleworth got hold of it.
No it wasn't. Linux was a Minix clone which was a clone of Unix.
So to me it makes more sense for Linux to resemble BSD than Windows.
How did anything you critique about Ubuntu have any resemblance to anything in Windows? Other than purely superficial cosmetics, there is nothing about the internals of Ubuntu that match anything in Windows.
Oh and if Lactating Llama doesn't capture the desktop, everyone knows that 10.4 Masturbating Moose is going to do it! It's got an even shittier-brown colored theme and it's going to have undergone a serious tweaking of it's packaging of FSpot, Tomboy, Firefox, OOo that will totally r0x0r your b0x0r5.
Oombooboo 9.10 Lactating Llama is going to take the desktop by storm! It's got a brand new shit-brown theme and it's got a superior combination of FSpot, Tomboy, Firefox, OOo than any of it's predecessor versions!
I mean either you're trolling or you..god please say you're a troll.
Yeah because Microsoft has fuck all to do with Seamonkey's development, but it's clearly Microsoft's fault that it crashes. Totally logical argument.
Petrus4 has a history of blaming anything wrong in the Linux world or FOSS world at large as being Microsoft's fault. KDE sucks? Oh that's cause of Microsoft. Gnome sucks? Oh yeah, that's always Microsoft's fault. Lather, rinse, repeat for any other program/distro/etc that he dislikes.