It doesn't work that way. The control word is always already known. The non-control word that you are helping to OCR never factors into your success or failure. For the non-control word, anything will get by, and there has to be consistent consensus before it is considered "solved" for OCR purposes.
Really? You mean on the Mac it isn't required to set up an IPhone or IPad that have no business relying on a desktop machine? You mean it isn't required I sync with it just to get Podcasts onto a device that already has internet connectivity? You mean on Mac it doesn't have a proprietary, signed procedure for syncing music to IPhone/IPod Touch/IPad, that makes it completely impossible to develop competing software without breaking the DMCA?
Sure the "ITunes experience" doesn't suck as hard on the Mac as it does on other platforms, but it still sucks. As GP says it's malware, only I would elaborate and say its malware that malicious to an entire industry.
Now that's a load of crap. I won't run Windows at any cost because it's not worth any cost to me. I am more productive in Linux, I enjoy customizing my experience, and I don't like having to run 3 heavyweight scanner software to keep my system free of virus, spyware, and malware. It's a better experience for me, so why should I waste time keeping a Windows install patched and safe?
And for the record, I do happily pay for games that run on Linux, and don't pirate software/music/video like my Windows using friends.
I think UT3 is dead because its not very popular on Windows, so why waste the effort?
Really? I hear this Android fragmentation concern all the time, and I wonder if those expelling this opinion were actually around for the last 30 years. For the entire history of PC computing, software makers routinely came out with brand new software that required the very latest cutting edge hardware. At first you had color games when people had only B&W. Then software required more than the 640k of memory most computers had. Then 16 color graphics when people only had 4-color monitors. Then new video cards came out frequently, and you either had the latest or you were getting 5 frames per second. Computers went from 16 bit to 32 bit, and this impacted all software. Operating systems began allowing you to run more than one app at a time, as long as you had hardware sufficient to support it. I could go on all day.
But the main take away is, it has worked out pretty well for PCs.
The good news is, most entire smartphones cost between USD $0 and $200. Which is much less than the cost of a single video card was ten years ago, when I was changing mine out annually.
If you want your software to run across a variety of hardware, it's going to take work. That's just life in software development. But let's stop assuming that everything written for Android absolutely must work on all phones. The Android market lets you control what devices your app is available to. Which by itself gives you the ability to avoid incompatibility issues in ways we could never dream of with PCs.
A link to an apk on a random file hosting site?!? Seriously? If you did the same thing with an exe you'd be flamed and hung from the Slashdot rafters. It should be the same with an apk, but everyone seems somehow fine with installing apks from random places with who knows what nasty code buried inside. One of these days everyone is going to get pwned by one of these hosted apk files.
I have a couple points that seem to be lost in this thread. First, this isn't the "Flash" that you know and hate. This is apps written in ActionScript 3 that are compiled into native iOS apps. They aren't necessarily going to be straddled with the same issues the community often complains about.
Second, there is one important aspect of this that no one seems to pay attention to. Adobe's Flash Packager for IPhone and MonoTouch are the only way for someone to develop IPhone software without buying a Apple Macintosh (at least without a Hackintosh, which is of questionable legality). It's always surprised me how few people point out that IPhone development requires a Mac, and that the barrier of entry is (or was) much, much greater than $99 / year for the majority of us.
Remember also that they did not force you to apply the update so if you wanted to you could have carried on playing all the single player games you already had and never upgrade. The only legitimate customers it affected were people who used the Other OS feature and also played games online.
First, this is not limited to Online games. I attempted to not apply the upgrade to keep my Other OS feature, and some of my non-online games required the update. Second, who cares online vs offline - I paid $50-70 for these online games, and I expect to be able to play them as well.
I was left with a choice of losing value for my original $600 purchase (the PS3, which I purchased partly due to the Other OS feature) or of losing hundreds more in games I can no longer play. It's pretty simple, Sony reduced the value of my purchased product. Sony sold me a feature, and then took it away. This is an illegal abuse, no matter how many or few people installed Linux.
Isn't this exactly what the GPL v3 is designed to prevent (Tivo-ization)? Seems like FSF's concerns are once again coming true. Too bad Linux won't ever adopt v3, it seems.
As has been pointed out, I am talking about open from an application-installation perspective, not open source. Windows and most OS are open from this perspective.
You're right. This is what I meant by "open platform". Something where apps don't require approval and/or can be installed from any source. Not an open source system as gp assumed.
I honestly wonder about this though. I surf with my IPhone over Wifi exclusively, since I cancelled my AT&T service. The same pages on the same wifi router render considerably slower on the IPhone than on a laptop/desktop sitting right next to it. I really wonder how much of the slowness is AT&T, and how much is just that the IPhone doesn't render pages at the speed we are used to.
FWIW, I'm not an AT&T apologist. Friday I'm signing up with Verizon and getting a Droid, because I'm fed up with AT&T and (especially) Apple.
Your premise sounds good in theory, but that doesn't make it true. I'd like to see some solid evidence of this.
Today, more code is peer reviewed. WAY, way more code is reused due to the mass explosion of publicly shared libraries, the worldwide adoption of OO languages, and the popularity of open source. Very few software systems today are built from scratch. They usually use some framework that is used and reviewed by thousands of other projects. Much more code today is managed code. As a result, programmers aren't left to make the mistakes they would've previously made. Developers are often developing software that is optimized far better than their skill or time would normally allow. As a result, I'd argue that typical software today might be more efficient than it was 15 years ago.
As for tightening things up, I can't speak for Windows or OSX, but if you watch mailing lists for desktop Linux projects from the kernel to Gnome, code is frequently scrutinized, discussed, and patched to "go back and tighten it up".
The ironic thing is hearing people complain about the heavy weightedness of a modern OS. Whenever someone brings up switching to Linux, people frequently claim they can't make the switch because doesn't run on Linux. Photoshop, the latest DirectX games, etc.
People want their cake, and more cake, and then to eat the cake, and the more cake.
The reason modern software requires so much resources is because it's modern. It does things we couldn't dream about 10 years ago. In years past, we wouldn't bother to write software that ran like shit because we only had 128 MB of RAM. We write that software today because the hardware supports it, not because we are too lazy to optimize software like your myth concludes. Software developers develop software to the capability of their current machine, not the one they had 15 years ago.
15 years ago, running a single video in a tiny window was pushing the envelope. Before we ran games we shut down everything else, even killing processes we couldn't see. 15 years ago, a couple animated gifs on a web page could make a system crawl (oh, sweet Mosaic). Heaven forbid that you want to keep something running in the background while you did something else.
Today we concurrently run 3D desktop effects, a media player with software EQ, a couple dozen background processes, a browser with 10 tabs all running various flash animated applets and ajax processes, and a 3D game the likes of which we couldn't imagine 15 years ago. This is why it takes resources.
I am not a security expert, but does switching to Firefox really solve the issue? For browsing, sure. But everyone is saying this is part of the core crypto API in Windows. Certs are used in more things than just IE.
When the app you want to install says it is signed by Microsoft, Mozilla, or Nullsoft, can you still be sure that it really is? Can you be sure the Windows Update software is actually retrieving updates without a man-in-the-middle?
I really don't know the answers to these questions. But I would be surprised if switching to Firefox is a cure to a bug in the core Win32 apis. Helpful: yes. A solution: probably not.
Did you even bother to click the link? There's nothing biased about the comparison. It's not very compelling if you asked me, but it's definitely without bias.
Besides those, it's been my experience that any new version of any Linux distro, and especially Ubuntu, that each new version supports hardware that previously didn't work, or took an act of a command-line-god to get working.
My policy is, I keep the LTS release on my server, and upgrade it when a new LTS comes out. However, on my desktops and laptops, I always upgrade to the latest release. If you look at the list of new features, usually none of them would I care about on a server. The only exception in 9.04 is the inclusion of ext4, but I am taking a wait-and-see until there is more consensus that it is trustworthy.
So many time consuming and expensive solutions. I've found you can actually save money by just kicking the girl and her rats out, and making her get her own g-damn apartment.
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It doesn't work that way. The control word is always already known. The non-control word that you are helping to OCR never factors into your success or failure. For the non-control word, anything will get by, and there has to be consistent consensus before it is considered "solved" for OCR purposes.
Really? You mean on the Mac it isn't required to set up an IPhone or IPad that have no business relying on a desktop machine? You mean it isn't required I sync with it just to get Podcasts onto a device that already has internet connectivity? You mean on Mac it doesn't have a proprietary, signed procedure for syncing music to IPhone/IPod Touch/IPad, that makes it completely impossible to develop competing software without breaking the DMCA?
Sure the "ITunes experience" doesn't suck as hard on the Mac as it does on other platforms, but it still sucks. As GP says it's malware, only I would elaborate and say its malware that malicious to an entire industry.
Now that's a load of crap. I won't run Windows at any cost because it's not worth any cost to me. I am more productive in Linux, I enjoy customizing my experience, and I don't like having to run 3 heavyweight scanner software to keep my system free of virus, spyware, and malware. It's a better experience for me, so why should I waste time keeping a Windows install patched and safe?
And for the record, I do happily pay for games that run on Linux, and don't pirate software/music/video like my Windows using friends.
I think UT3 is dead because its not very popular on Windows, so why waste the effort?
The games that promised to go open source from the previous Humble Bundle did follow through. From the humble site:
Announcements and source code links:
Aquaria goes open source.
Lugara goes open source.
Gish goes open source.
Penumbra goes open source.
Really? I hear this Android fragmentation concern all the time, and I wonder if those expelling this opinion were actually around for the last 30 years. For the entire history of PC computing, software makers routinely came out with brand new software that required the very latest cutting edge hardware. At first you had color games when people had only B&W. Then software required more than the 640k of memory most computers had. Then 16 color graphics when people only had 4-color monitors. Then new video cards came out frequently, and you either had the latest or you were getting 5 frames per second. Computers went from 16 bit to 32 bit, and this impacted all software. Operating systems began allowing you to run more than one app at a time, as long as you had hardware sufficient to support it. I could go on all day.
But the main take away is, it has worked out pretty well for PCs.
The good news is, most entire smartphones cost between USD $0 and $200. Which is much less than the cost of a single video card was ten years ago, when I was changing mine out annually.
If you want your software to run across a variety of hardware, it's going to take work. That's just life in software development. But let's stop assuming that everything written for Android absolutely must work on all phones. The Android market lets you control what devices your app is available to. Which by itself gives you the ability to avoid incompatibility issues in ways we could never dream of with PCs.
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Apple has the IPad; The Playbook is Blackberry. Duh.
A link to an apk on a random file hosting site?!? Seriously? If you did the same thing with an exe you'd be flamed and hung from the Slashdot rafters. It should be the same with an apk, but everyone seems somehow fine with installing apks from random places with who knows what nasty code buried inside. One of these days everyone is going to get pwned by one of these hosted apk files.
I have a couple points that seem to be lost in this thread. First, this isn't the "Flash" that you know and hate. This is apps written in ActionScript 3 that are compiled into native iOS apps. They aren't necessarily going to be straddled with the same issues the community often complains about.
Second, there is one important aspect of this that no one seems to pay attention to. Adobe's Flash Packager for IPhone and MonoTouch are the only way for someone to develop IPhone software without buying a Apple Macintosh (at least without a Hackintosh, which is of questionable legality). It's always surprised me how few people point out that IPhone development requires a Mac, and that the barrier of entry is (or was) much, much greater than $99 / year for the majority of us.
First, this is not limited to Online games. I attempted to not apply the upgrade to keep my Other OS feature, and some of my non-online games required the update. Second, who cares online vs offline - I paid $50-70 for these online games, and I expect to be able to play them as well.
I was left with a choice of losing value for my original $600 purchase (the PS3, which I purchased partly due to the Other OS feature) or of losing hundreds more in games I can no longer play. It's pretty simple, Sony reduced the value of my purchased product. Sony sold me a feature, and then took it away. This is an illegal abuse, no matter how many or few people installed Linux.
Ha. Hahahhahahah. I've got to read that a second time.
Hahahahhhaaaa. Heeehee. Hah....hah. Oh man, tears.
Isn't this exactly what the GPL v3 is designed to prevent (Tivo-ization)? Seems like FSF's concerns are once again coming true. Too bad Linux won't ever adopt v3, it seems.
As has been pointed out, I am talking about open from an application-installation perspective, not open source. Windows and most OS are open from this perspective.
You're right. This is what I meant by "open platform". Something where apps don't require approval and/or can be installed from any source. Not an open source system as gp assumed.
You are right. Having a completely open platform has never worked before. *rolls eyes *
I honestly wonder about this though. I surf with my IPhone over Wifi exclusively, since I cancelled my AT&T service. The same pages on the same wifi router render considerably slower on the IPhone than on a laptop/desktop sitting right next to it. I really wonder how much of the slowness is AT&T, and how much is just that the IPhone doesn't render pages at the speed we are used to.
FWIW, I'm not an AT&T apologist. Friday I'm signing up with Verizon and getting a Droid, because I'm fed up with AT&T and (especially) Apple.
Your premise sounds good in theory, but that doesn't make it true. I'd like to see some solid evidence of this.
Today, more code is peer reviewed. WAY, way more code is reused due to the mass explosion of publicly shared libraries, the worldwide adoption of OO languages, and the popularity of open source. Very few software systems today are built from scratch. They usually use some framework that is used and reviewed by thousands of other projects. Much more code today is managed code. As a result, programmers aren't left to make the mistakes they would've previously made. Developers are often developing software that is optimized far better than their skill or time would normally allow. As a result, I'd argue that typical software today might be more efficient than it was 15 years ago.
As for tightening things up, I can't speak for Windows or OSX, but if you watch mailing lists for desktop Linux projects from the kernel to Gnome, code is frequently scrutinized, discussed, and patched to "go back and tighten it up".
The ironic thing is hearing people complain about the heavy weightedness of a modern OS. Whenever someone brings up switching to Linux, people frequently claim they can't make the switch because doesn't run on Linux. Photoshop, the latest DirectX games, etc.
People want their cake, and more cake, and then to eat the cake, and the more cake.
Oh bullocks. This old myth is tired and sad.
The reason modern software requires so much resources is because it's modern. It does things we couldn't dream about 10 years ago. In years past, we wouldn't bother to write software that ran like shit because we only had 128 MB of RAM. We write that software today because the hardware supports it, not because we are too lazy to optimize software like your myth concludes. Software developers develop software to the capability of their current machine, not the one they had 15 years ago.
15 years ago, running a single video in a tiny window was pushing the envelope. Before we ran games we shut down everything else, even killing processes we couldn't see. 15 years ago, a couple animated gifs on a web page could make a system crawl (oh, sweet Mosaic). Heaven forbid that you want to keep something running in the background while you did something else.
Today we concurrently run 3D desktop effects, a media player with software EQ, a couple dozen background processes, a browser with 10 tabs all running various flash animated applets and ajax processes, and a 3D game the likes of which we couldn't imagine 15 years ago. This is why it takes resources.
In other news, Ubuntu Karmic is pretty nice.
I am not a security expert, but does switching to Firefox really solve the issue? For browsing, sure. But everyone is saying this is part of the core crypto API in Windows. Certs are used in more things than just IE.
When the app you want to install says it is signed by Microsoft, Mozilla, or Nullsoft, can you still be sure that it really is? Can you be sure the Windows Update software is actually retrieving updates without a man-in-the-middle?
I really don't know the answers to these questions. But I would be surprised if switching to Firefox is a cure to a bug in the core Win32 apis. Helpful: yes. A solution: probably not.
In fairness, the previous competition wasn't exactly intense.
Recently, I called Wells Fargo and told them to "Go f*** yourselves"; I didn't anticipate they would take me so literally.
Did you even bother to click the link? There's nothing biased about the comparison. It's not very compelling if you asked me, but it's definitely without bias.
On IPhone Safari:
Step 1) Curse out loud.
Step 2) There is no step 2.
Better boot performance, new notification system, OpenOffice 3, Firefox 3.1, ext4.
Besides those, it's been my experience that any new version of any Linux distro, and especially Ubuntu, that each new version supports hardware that previously didn't work, or took an act of a command-line-god to get working.
My policy is, I keep the LTS release on my server, and upgrade it when a new LTS comes out. However, on my desktops and laptops, I always upgrade to the latest release. If you look at the list of new features, usually none of them would I care about on a server. The only exception in 9.04 is the inclusion of ext4, but I am taking a wait-and-see until there is more consensus that it is trustworthy.
So many time consuming and expensive solutions. I've found you can actually save money by just kicking the girl and her rats out, and making her get her own g-damn apartment.