The article actually says AT&T and others will have handsets out early 2009. This is just the bleeding edge release on T-Mobile.
Android will work on any GSM network regardless of carrier. Being an open OS there are none of the firmware locks in place that keep the phone off certain GSM networks.
The perceived value is relative to what you want. I don't give 2 craps about Bluray or even downloadable video. I buy a gaming console for gaming, and possibly playing a DVD here and there.
With that said the PS3 is giant waste of money for me, because I'd be buying a ton of hardware I just don't need or want. Thats not value for me.
Value is a reasonable price for a device the matches the feature set I want as closely as possible. I'm not interested in shelling out more money for something I'll never use, even if that extra feature is cheep for the additional cost. Its still more money.
Indeed all I could think was how entertaining it would be to try to explain to the hockey guy how slashdot DOES mean something and makes a lot more sense in the context of what it actually is, than it would for hockey.
can't tell if you're trolling, but this is just the weekly crossover from idle.slashdot.org.
Its the/. topic section for totally random waste of time nonsensical sort of things. Its late on a Friday and they feel like sharing once a week some of the random, potentially humorous mail they get.
I actually find them fairly entertaining each week.
Indeed. I think the Wii in our apt has been turned on once since the summer started, but I've played through at least 5-6 360 games in that time (if you count things like the PA game from Live Arcade as a full game then its 1 more).
Well for starters they said its a failure rate in the teens. The odds even with 2 cards that 1 would fail is still less likely than not.
Also the 8800 cards have been out for a while. The impression I get is that this is a newer issue with the cards, so initial 8800 cards might not be an issue.
I've got this brand spanking new car if you want to buy it. I'll give you a great deal on it. The paint is brand new, custom wheels, high end brakes, a completely killer stereo system, GPS, power everything. The only problem is that there is a 15% chance the engine doesn't work.
But its just one component, so lets not blow this out of proportion, what will you give me for it?
and its slow and painful on good days, a nightmare on bad ones. Add another 2-3 million people to the mix and its total gridlock. Take trains or close a road or two and it gets even worse.
Not saying this thing couldn't be evacuated, but at some point you have to weigh the time to evacuate, versus the need to evacuate the whole thing, and determine if its an issue.
I still think that the benefit outweighs the potential hazards. In any city or densely populated area there are risks to large numbers of people. There are ways to mitigate them, but if things happen they happen, you can't plan for every single thing. Someone sets off a small nuke in NYC and lots are people are going to die, there's nothing you can do about it other than try to stop the nuke, etc etc.
In theory if the building is big enough and compartmentalized like the concept drawing at least looks. Then you won't need to evacuate the whole thing.
In fact evacuating the whole thing would be akin to evacuating say the island of manhattan. There's just no way to do it, but it doesn't stop people from living there. If someone was going to destroy a 2.3 kilometer structure in its entirety, the similar action taken on a street corner outside in any major city would have a similar effect.
Maybe its a density issue then. I mean any utility that goes into NYC is going to be underground, but running fiber to one building might net them multiple customers.
A lot of the Boston/Somerville/Cambridge area is dense, but the buildings themselves tend not to be overly populated. (Lots of triple deckers close together, though there are apt buildings as well).
What parts of NYC have verizon? Manhattan, Brooklyn? I know good portions of Jersey and CT are covered.
Ah I probably should have clarified. I'm in Somerville, but as far as I know they have yet to roll out FiOS in Somerville, Cambridge, Boston, or any of the urban areas immediately surrounding Boston. However most or all of the suburbs around Boston have it. Friends in Marlborough, Framingham, etc tell me its solved most or all of the issues they've had with traditional cable ISPs.
Comcast has been horrific for me. Their customer service is terrible, their software for their DVRs is awful (even their own techs say it), and they engage in all sorts of shady underhanded stuff like forging reset packets, throttling high usage customers (who are within the bandwidth limits they ALREADY paid for).
Overall they've just been a terrible company to have to deal with.
Boston was supposedly the first metro area they rolled out FiOS, and while almost every suburb has it around here their urban penetration has been exactly ZERO. I've been contacting Verizon repeatedly over the last year so I can dump first RCN and now Comcast (god I want to get rid of Comcast/shudder), but they keep saying, we'll roll out in your area soon. Its been over 2 years.
I think the basic issue is that in the suburbs its easy to run the fiber based on the income generated. In the city where they'll need to do underground work, and possibly dig up sidewalks/streets its much more cost prohibitive compared to the customers it will get them.
That being said, the cable services have been getting far far worse in terms of signal quality and thats not even taking into account things like "traffic shaping".
I'm not even referring to the situation in Georgia.
I'm just speaking in terms of Russian nationalism and establishing its place in global affairs.
After a significant period of hardship following the fall of the soviet union the country is now flush with oil money and outsourcing labor for the west. With a strengthening economic situation the country is looking to regain is place on the world stage and expand its sphere of influence.
While it won't come to open conflict, I could definitely see the new emboldened Russia telling the US to "pay up or no Soyuz for you." With no shuttle for 5 years they would have us over the proverbial barrel until we can get a replacement flying.
The deeper issue in the current Russian situation is what stances they will take with their ever increasing global stature.
Not to mention the recent renewal of "old cold war" tensions.
One thing commonly pointed to by politicians in reducing spending on NASA is the current cooperation with other countries. If Russian turns into a rival again, then I suspect space rivalry will again follow. Nothing like a little nationalism to shake the purse strings.
You're assuming a linear scale for discovering these things. If we get better and better at searching, we'll find them faster. Even if there is a 1 in a billion chance of a system being like ours, that still leaves a few of them in our own galaxy alone.
"There are 400 billion stars out there in our galaxy alone. Now if only one out of a million of those stars had planets. Alright? And if just one out of a million of those had life. And if just one out of a million of those had intelligent lifeâ¦there would be literally millions of civilizations out there."
Sure maybe you have to shift a few decimal places, but rare, still isn't necessarily rare.
Then again, if its RARER, than we expect, what are the odds of finding it in any sort of appreciable time scale?
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I think you misunderstood my point.
I thought there was some muslim tenet that said you aren't supposed to reproduce the Qu'ran except in its true entirety.
Similarly to how muslims aren't supposed to have depictions of muhammad, etc. Maybe I'm confusing that with some other rule.
I know in Judaism that the Tora is only supposed to be copied by hand and in its exact form or something like that. Thought this was similar.
I thought writing the lines in text was a reproduction just as much as the audio? Yet /. just posted them?
Or maybe I'm just confused and there is a difference between writing them and the audio copy.
The G1 will be, but not the OS. As I said there will be other handsets (not the G1) that will be available on other networks.
The article actually says AT&T and others will have handsets out early 2009. This is just the bleeding edge release on T-Mobile.
Android will work on any GSM network regardless of carrier. Being an open OS there are none of the firmware locks in place that keep the phone off certain GSM networks.
This is just the first handset.
Other carriers (including AT&T) will have handsets at some point at the beginning of next year it says.
From what I understand the OS is compatible with any GSM network, it just needs handsets that support the OS.
The perceived value is relative to what you want. I don't give 2 craps about Bluray or even downloadable video. I buy a gaming console for gaming, and possibly playing a DVD here and there.
With that said the PS3 is giant waste of money for me, because I'd be buying a ton of hardware I just don't need or want. Thats not value for me.
Value is a reasonable price for a device the matches the feature set I want as closely as possible. I'm not interested in shelling out more money for something I'll never use, even if that extra feature is cheep for the additional cost. Its still more money.
Indeed all I could think was how entertaining it would be to try to explain to the hockey guy how slashdot DOES mean something and makes a lot more sense in the context of what it actually is, than it would for hockey.
can't tell if you're trolling, but this is just the weekly crossover from idle.slashdot.org.
Its the /. topic section for totally random waste of time nonsensical sort of things. Its late on a Friday and they feel like sharing once a week some of the random, potentially humorous mail they get.
I actually find them fairly entertaining each week.
Indeed. I think the Wii in our apt has been turned on once since the summer started, but I've played through at least 5-6 360 games in that time (if you count things like the PA game from Live Arcade as a full game then its 1 more).
it was sarcasm with a point. I WAS trying to be funny, did get the joke, but also felt I could make a valid point with it Mr. Troll.
If only replacing GPU's was as easy as replacing engines. I'd buy budget graphics cards for like $20/per and slap on some new chips and resell them.
Well for starters they said its a failure rate in the teens. The odds even with 2 cards that 1 would fail is still less likely than not.
Also the 8800 cards have been out for a while. The impression I get is that this is a newer issue with the cards, so initial 8800 cards might not be an issue.
Or you could short the stock if you think word will eventually get out and they'll be forced to take action.
I've got this brand spanking new car if you want to buy it. I'll give you a great deal on it. The paint is brand new, custom wheels, high end brakes, a completely killer stereo system, GPS, power everything. The only problem is that there is a 15% chance the engine doesn't work.
But its just one component, so lets not blow this out of proportion, what will you give me for it?
and its slow and painful on good days, a nightmare on bad ones. Add another 2-3 million people to the mix and its total gridlock. Take trains or close a road or two and it gets even worse.
Not saying this thing couldn't be evacuated, but at some point you have to weigh the time to evacuate, versus the need to evacuate the whole thing, and determine if its an issue.
I still think that the benefit outweighs the potential hazards. In any city or densely populated area there are risks to large numbers of people. There are ways to mitigate them, but if things happen they happen, you can't plan for every single thing. Someone sets off a small nuke in NYC and lots are people are going to die, there's nothing you can do about it other than try to stop the nuke, etc etc.
In theory if the building is big enough and compartmentalized like the concept drawing at least looks. Then you won't need to evacuate the whole thing.
In fact evacuating the whole thing would be akin to evacuating say the island of manhattan. There's just no way to do it, but it doesn't stop people from living there. If someone was going to destroy a 2.3 kilometer structure in its entirety, the similar action taken on a street corner outside in any major city would have a similar effect.
Maybe its a density issue then. I mean any utility that goes into NYC is going to be underground, but running fiber to one building might net them multiple customers.
A lot of the Boston/Somerville/Cambridge area is dense, but the buildings themselves tend not to be overly populated. (Lots of triple deckers close together, though there are apt buildings as well).
What parts of NYC have verizon? Manhattan, Brooklyn? I know good portions of Jersey and CT are covered.
Ah I probably should have clarified. I'm in Somerville, but as far as I know they have yet to roll out FiOS in Somerville, Cambridge, Boston, or any of the urban areas immediately surrounding Boston. However most or all of the suburbs around Boston have it. Friends in Marlborough, Framingham, etc tell me its solved most or all of the issues they've had with traditional cable ISPs.
Comcast has been horrific for me. Their customer service is terrible, their software for their DVRs is awful (even their own techs say it), and they engage in all sorts of shady underhanded stuff like forging reset packets, throttling high usage customers (who are within the bandwidth limits they ALREADY paid for).
Overall they've just been a terrible company to have to deal with.
Its not just Philly.
Boston was supposedly the first metro area they rolled out FiOS, and while almost every suburb has it around here their urban penetration has been exactly ZERO. I've been contacting Verizon repeatedly over the last year so I can dump first RCN and now Comcast (god I want to get rid of Comcast /shudder), but they keep saying, we'll roll out in your area soon. Its been over 2 years.
I think the basic issue is that in the suburbs its easy to run the fiber based on the income generated. In the city where they'll need to do underground work, and possibly dig up sidewalks/streets its much more cost prohibitive compared to the customers it will get them.
That being said, the cable services have been getting far far worse in terms of signal quality and thats not even taking into account things like "traffic shaping".
I'm not even referring to the situation in Georgia.
I'm just speaking in terms of Russian nationalism and establishing its place in global affairs.
After a significant period of hardship following the fall of the soviet union the country is now flush with oil money and outsourcing labor for the west. With a strengthening economic situation the country is looking to regain is place on the world stage and expand its sphere of influence.
While it won't come to open conflict, I could definitely see the new emboldened Russia telling the US to "pay up or no Soyuz for you." With no shuttle for 5 years they would have us over the proverbial barrel until we can get a replacement flying.
The deeper issue in the current Russian situation is what stances they will take with their ever increasing global stature.
Not to mention the recent renewal of "old cold war" tensions.
One thing commonly pointed to by politicians in reducing spending on NASA is the current cooperation with other countries. If Russian turns into a rival again, then I suspect space rivalry will again follow. Nothing like a little nationalism to shake the purse strings.
Thats why I quoted it.
I'll bite at the troll.
You're assuming a linear scale for discovering these things. If we get better and better at searching, we'll find them faster. Even if there is a 1 in a billion chance of a system being like ours, that still leaves a few of them in our own galaxy alone.
"There are 400 billion stars out there in our galaxy alone. Now if only one out of a million of those stars had planets. Alright? And if just one out of a million of those had life. And if just one out of a million of those had intelligent lifeâ¦there would be literally millions of civilizations out there."
Sure maybe you have to shift a few decimal places, but rare, still isn't necessarily rare.
Then again, if its RARER, than we expect, what are the odds of finding it in any sort of appreciable time scale?