Basically, I realize I am not an IT department, and the company I have purchasing influence at wouldn't even qualify as a wart on the ass of a company MS cares about, but hear me out:
The Licensing bit is really all that matters to me. I don't 'license' software, I don't 'license' any media. I buy it.
I refuse to accept the legitimacy of EULAs or any other licensing terms. Because of this I will ignore them when I have to until I am forced to otherwise.
Since I think its ridiculus to buy a product and then post-purchase agree to terms that are restricting I try to avoid it at all costs. In the few cases that I don't I'll use the software as I see fit and wait for a court to force me to do otherwise.
This is why I like the GPL. This is why I use the GPL. No one is asked to accept a license agreement, regardless of its validity, unless they want to do things that require extra permissions. Simple easy to remember concept, basically "I can do whatever I like and consult the GPL when common sense tells me I need to"
I know what you thinking, that this "common sense" isn't common, that I should accept licensing terms for all uses of all media. I contest that its an obvious boundary from running Visual FoxPro (or whatever) on any hardware/software combo I see fit, to giving away copies to other people. This boundary IS common sense in my view, and an added bonus of the GPL is that in dealing with this extra rights it wont let someone curtail future uses with a changed license (again regardless of the legitimacy of said license).
This doesn't even touch on the available source issue, which, while I personally have only used the source from a small percentage of the software I use, gives an added security knowing that in all likely-hood at least a few other people have glanced at the authors code and not publicly complaigned:)
So to sum it up, I don't agree to the legitimacy of licenses tacked on to products I purchase. Because of this I will A) Aviod having to use products with them, B) Ignore them where I see fit in a minor act of 'civil disobediance' - not to be confused with violating any common sense applications of so called 'copyright'
Well I remember having this same conversation a while ago one of the last few times I was in a specific local games store, the answer was pretty much "pokemon":) the guy sold more pokemon card than he could count he said it was because he was the only shop around that marked up the cards normally and didnt like triple the price. of course pokemon cards are as big anymore (i don't think anyway) so I would imagine he's hoping for another fad.:)
I know people that could probably support that store alone on their GW miniature habit. But, the problem with local merchants not carrying GW merchandice is the smae with computer makers not pre-installing microsoft, they can't do it and stay in business. Now with computers that is slowly changing, but with wargaming games workshop dominates the market.
Which is odd since their figures are usually 2 to 3 times the price of others. And now they dont even 'feel' worth the price, the flexibility of plastic is nice but $20 for like 5 plastic 1 inch figures is ABSURD.
no reason for you to ba a jackass. I didn't have the "i donm't need it so why would any one else" attitude. Hell I don't need BSD at all. I was actually curious as to why that would halt a release. Seemed odd to me.
I don't even have a floppy disk drive in my computers anymore. Why is making the file fit a floppy that important? They are pretty much obsolete at this point.
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so simply because I use one piece of software you exprected me to know something about another piece of software?
Now you see that makes sense, because being a Nautilus user, I also understand that nothing gets more discussion/flame wars than the file manager! I guess maybe thats try of every desktop ?:)
I may sound really stupid, but....
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What the hell is a 'finder' ? I don't use Mac OSX and never used MacOS, but I constantly see people talking about the 'finder' I am very curious what is it? I use GNOME, so if you could related it to a feature of that maybe I would understand better.
Duplicates of jokes? This is totally getting out of hand. Normally on a day like today I would let this slide, but since duplicates are the norm, this can't be a joke!
I have to say, I am off my game this year, one story, and I already fell for it. I clicked through to the story thinking "what the hell, this is soo stupid"....
I've never read MozillaQuest, but I find it wierd that a site with the word "Mozilla" in its title doesn't render properly in my copy of Mozilla (1.2.1 from Debian Testing)
or maybe they intended the page to have a 3-inch margin?
I have to know, is it skinnable? or does every one who uses it have to put up with the ugle blue and green title bars and panel ? - not even mentioning the rest of the widgets.
I must say I thought the grey '3d' widgets of Win9x were pretty blah, but at least they weren't as annoying as those screenshots look.
Maybe Microsoft figured that while they were crushing Java with.Net they would throw Sun a bone by actually making a UI that was uglier that Metal ?
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Well geting WINE to work was a simple "apt-get install wine" - I have not had as much luck with DOSEMU, and havent tried since the wine system works fine.
I use Wine to compile but not for porting
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I use Microchip's pic assemler through wine, for a small piece of code I maintain that runs on a PIC that wasn't supported by any GNU/Linux assembler when I started. I also maintain a legacy version of a very specific proprietary MSDOS (actually we run DRDOS) program that was written with Borland C, hopefully I will be replacing the last running bit of that with a DJGPP compiled version soon, which of course can be cross compiled on GNU/Linux without the need for Wine and bcw. I know what your thinking, but when a piece of software has worked flawlessly (well almost!) for 15 or so years, and is 'mission critical' it is very hard to drop a platform and move on. I am hoping to try out a move to Linux some day in the near future so that I can take advantage of new features and things that just arent available for DOS. But unless I can convince everyone else of the benefits I may be supporting dos for quite some time (I am the only software person at this company).
I hat e to break it too you, but this does not signify to "downfall of Debian" it simply points out that you are not a target user of Debian. The whole point of the entire project is a free system. By them makign stands on otherwise useful software and not giving in one can see that the project is running as well as it should. I am not saying I want granny to run Debian and have to search for URLs etc, I'm saying that Debian is a project heavily rooted in the politics, and I for one am happy to see that there still are people who will sacrifice a little "usability" for thier values.
AWESOME! People think I'm a troll. This is like totally cool man. I can't wait to see this thread. I think its gonna kick ass! and RULE!...
I mean can someone please explain to that windbag that Attack of The Clones actually sucked. I don't think Harry even saw it from the way he writes. Of course maybe its just that 11 year year old style I can't quite grasp.
Either way I am sure I will check the games site about as much as I check the movie site, which is pretty much never.
A site to "do for games" what AICN did for movies? so its going to be a terribly designed site with horrid fonts and colors, filled with wild speculation and fanboy style worshipping ? Thats exactly what the entire gaming community needs, more crap. I can't wait.
I loved those Ada classes at GW. Prof. Feldman almost turned me into an Ada lover! But alas I haven't even seen a line of Ada since I left GW. Talk about dodging a bullet, I'd probably prefer to take up self-mutilation instead at this point.
I personally think (and that probably isn't worth much since I've written some Java, and no C#) that java is the key to keeping.Net in check. I haven't seen any compelling reasons why.net is supperior to java, even the supposed multi-language feature has been contested. I also see no reason to believe that any non-MS version of.net will be able to keep up, or that MS will bother to let.net flurish on any non-MS OS. Since I don't run a microsoft OS this bothers me. I don't want to see all this developement go towards a platform I will never be able to fully take advantage of.
Java works now. What we need is an open standard for java, with robust open implementations. Right now I think the only stumbling block for java is the lack of non-proprietary software to run and/or develope it. While some of the free implementations are very nice they still aren't able to keep up. Sun should really be pushing to make thier java implementation 'free' enough to become a major component of free systems, otherwise in a few years they'll be protecting and holding on to java while everyone else moved on to microsofts product.
that this old keyboard would be better for RSI, not sure I believe it. Although I was thinking of doing something similar, simply because I thought the novelty would be interresting. Very Brazil/Max Headroom-esque.
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Basically, I realize I am not an IT department, and the company I have purchasing influence at wouldn't even qualify as a wart on the ass of a company MS cares about, but hear me out:
:)
The Licensing bit is really all that matters to me. I don't 'license' software, I don't 'license' any media. I buy it.
I refuse to accept the legitimacy of EULAs or any other licensing terms. Because of this I will ignore them when I have to until I am forced to otherwise.
Since I think its ridiculus to buy a product and then post-purchase agree to terms that are restricting I try to avoid it at all costs. In the few cases that I don't I'll use the software as I see fit and wait for a court to force me to do otherwise.
This is why I like the GPL. This is why I use the GPL. No one is asked to accept a license agreement, regardless of its validity, unless they want to do things that require extra permissions. Simple easy to remember concept, basically "I can do whatever I like and consult the GPL when common sense tells me I need to"
I know what you thinking, that this "common sense" isn't common, that I should accept licensing terms for all uses of all media. I contest that its an obvious boundary from running Visual FoxPro (or whatever) on any hardware/software combo I see fit, to giving away copies to other people. This boundary IS common sense in my view, and an added bonus of the GPL is that in dealing with this extra rights it wont let someone curtail future uses with a changed license (again regardless of the legitimacy of said license).
This doesn't even touch on the available source issue, which, while I personally have only used the source from a small percentage of the software I use, gives an added security knowing that in all likely-hood at least a few other people have glanced at the authors code and not publicly complaigned
So to sum it up, I don't agree to the legitimacy of licenses tacked on to products I purchase. Because of this I will A) Aviod having to use products with them, B) Ignore them where I see fit in a minor act of 'civil disobediance' - not to be confused with violating any common sense applications of so called 'copyright'
Well I remember having this same conversation a while ago one of the last few times I was in a specific local games store, the answer was pretty much "pokemon" :) the guy sold more pokemon card than he could count he said it was because he was the only shop around that marked up the cards normally and didnt like triple the price. of course pokemon cards are as big anymore (i don't think anyway) so I would imagine he's hoping for another fad. :)
I know people that could probably support that store alone on their GW miniature habit. But, the problem with local merchants not carrying GW merchandice is the smae with computer makers not pre-installing microsoft, they can't do it and stay in business. Now with computers that is slowly changing, but with wargaming games workshop dominates the market.
Which is odd since their figures are usually 2 to 3 times the price of others. And now they dont even 'feel' worth the price, the flexibility of plastic is nice but $20 for like 5 plastic 1 inch figures is ABSURD.
no reason for you to ba a jackass. I didn't have the "i donm't need it so why would any one else" attitude. Hell I don't need BSD at all. I was actually curious as to why that would halt a release. Seemed odd to me.
well if they could make the wirst movie ever made 'beautiful' maybe it is good? :)
I don't even have a floppy disk drive in my computers anymore. Why is making the file fit a floppy that important? They are pretty much obsolete at this point.
so simply because I use one piece of software you exprected me to know something about another piece of software?
Now you see that makes sense, because being a Nautilus user, I also understand that nothing gets more discussion/flame wars than the file manager! I guess maybe thats try of every desktop ? :)
What the hell is a 'finder' ? I don't use Mac OSX and never used MacOS, but I constantly see people talking about the 'finder' I am very curious what is it? I use GNOME, so if you could related it to a feature of that maybe I would understand better.
Now its funny.
That silly CmdrTaco, how funny he can be.
Duplicates of jokes? This is totally getting out of hand. Normally on a day like today I would let this slide, but since duplicates are the norm, this can't be a joke!
I have to say, I am off my game this year, one story, and I already fell for it. I clicked through to the story thinking "what the hell, this is soo stupid"....
I've never read MozillaQuest, but I find it wierd that a site with the word "Mozilla" in its title doesn't render properly in my copy of Mozilla (1.2.1 from Debian Testing)
or maybe they intended the page to have a 3-inch margin?
Sounds like apt would work. Maybe MS should start using some Free Software ?
I have to know, is it skinnable? or does every one who uses it have to put up with the ugle blue and green title bars and panel ? - not even mentioning the rest of the widgets.
.Net they would throw Sun a bone by actually making a UI that was uglier that Metal ?
I must say I thought the grey '3d' widgets of Win9x were pretty blah, but at least they weren't as annoying as those screenshots look.
Maybe Microsoft figured that while they were crushing Java with
Well geting WINE to work was a simple "apt-get install wine" - I have not had as much luck with DOSEMU, and havent tried since the wine system works fine.
I use Microchip's pic assemler through wine, for a small piece of code I maintain that runs on a PIC that wasn't supported by any GNU/Linux assembler when I started. I also maintain a legacy version of a very specific proprietary MSDOS (actually we run DRDOS) program that was written with Borland C, hopefully I will be replacing the last running bit of that with a DJGPP compiled version soon, which of course can be cross compiled on GNU/Linux without the need for Wine and bcw.
I know what your thinking, but when a piece of software has worked flawlessly (well almost!) for 15 or so years, and is 'mission critical' it is very hard to drop a platform and move on. I am hoping to try out a move to Linux some day in the near future so that I can take advantage of new features and things that just arent available for DOS. But unless I can convince everyone else of the benefits I may be supporting dos for quite some time (I am the only software person at this company).
I am so surprised ST:Nemesis wasn't nominated for best adapted screenplay.
You know from the original text "The Wrath of Khan".
I hat e to break it too you, but this does not signify to "downfall of Debian" it simply points out that you are not a target user of Debian. The whole point of the entire project is a free system. By them makign stands on otherwise useful software and not giving in one can see that the project is running as well as it should. I am not saying I want granny to run Debian and have to search for URLs etc, I'm saying that Debian is a project heavily rooted in the politics, and I for one am happy to see that there still are people who will sacrifice a little "usability" for thier values.
IANADD - (I am not a Debian Developer)
AWESOME! People think I'm a troll. This is like totally cool man. I can't wait to see this thread. I think its gonna kick ass! and RULE!...
I mean can someone please explain to that windbag that Attack of The Clones actually sucked. I don't think Harry even saw it from the way he writes. Of course maybe its just that 11 year year old style I can't quite grasp.
Either way I am sure I will check the games site about as much as I check the movie site, which is pretty much never.
A site to "do for games" what AICN did for movies? so its going to be a terribly designed site with horrid fonts and colors, filled with wild speculation and fanboy style worshipping ? Thats exactly what the entire gaming community needs, more crap. I can't wait.
I like swing.
I loved those Ada classes at GW. Prof. Feldman almost turned me into an Ada lover! But alas I haven't even seen a line of Ada since I left GW. Talk about dodging a bullet, I'd probably prefer to take up self-mutilation instead at this point.
I personally think (and that probably isn't worth much since I've written some Java, and no C#) that java is the key to keeping .Net in check. I haven't seen any compelling reasons why .net is supperior to java, even the supposed multi-language feature has been contested. I also see no reason to believe that any non-MS version of .net will be able to keep up, or that MS will bother to let .net flurish on any non-MS OS. Since I don't run a microsoft OS this bothers me. I don't want to see all this developement go towards a platform I will never be able to fully take advantage of.
Java works now. What we need is an open standard for java, with robust open implementations. Right now I think the only stumbling block for java is the lack of non-proprietary software to run and/or develope it. While some of the free implementations are very nice they still aren't able to keep up. Sun should really be pushing to make thier java implementation 'free' enough to become a major component of free systems, otherwise in a few years they'll be protecting and holding on to java while everyone else moved on to microsofts product.
that this old keyboard would be better for RSI, not sure I believe it. Although I was thinking of doing something similar, simply because I thought the novelty would be interresting. Very Brazil/Max Headroom-esque.