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Evil Bit Added to TCP/IP Packets
Absolut Ralts notes that "
RFC 3514 is now
available. It provides for an additional so called 'Evil Bit' that can be
used to determine the nature of the TCP/IP packet. This should vastly simplify networking and internet security, and prevent the beepers of tired sysadmins from going off and interfering with Warcraft III!"
Third post, then?
This is the third posting of this on the front page in the SAME DAY!!!!
;-)
I want what TACO smokes
Post a dupe and get away with it by posting another and chalk it up to April Fool's day.
Very clever.
And you would have gotten away with it too! Had it not been for those meddlesome kids.
FP? It's pretty bad when you have to start duplicating hoaxes!
Forst pest?
REPEAT!
It's going to be a long day...
Or is this just a cruel Slashdot April Fool's prank?
:)
Oh, and first (subjectively, anyway) post!
Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
At least this time it's ACTUALLY April Fool's day...
See subject ;-)
first time, vaguely amusing.
;)
second time, not funny.
third time, comedy gold.
don't push your luck
its been posted three times now!
Its not just a dupe.. its a tripe!
Just curious. Do they also allow for a subclass of Evil Bits, such as a 'Holy Stupid Dupe From The Same Editor On April 1st Batman' bit?
I have the strange feeling this world is upside down because of DEJA VU's ?
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
If you say it often enough, it will become funny. Just like CowboyNeal.
Better brew yourself a pot there Taco. Duping April Fool's jokes is bad, mmmmkay?
I read the first one. Evil bit. I was thinking of legitimate usages and stuff. Then I saw the dupe and was thinking...idiots. Then I saw the 3rd one and I was thinking...idiot. :-D
I hope this slashdotting of slashdot is not a joke! Don't mess with my information drip!
God I love April Fool's Day. Keep on posting dupes, it makes the page more fun to read.
Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.
I expected them to make searches for Linux give only results for Windows and vice versa.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
A dupe of a dupe, about an RFC that's not even that funny.
Oh well, at least there's a spelling mistake to laugh at. "Insecure systems MAY chose to crash," Go figure...
Have you read my journal today?
But I told you so.
Now even for April fools day this is a bit much, this story has now been posted three times today!
Is this Taco's way at getting back at us for complaining about dupes in the first place?
KHAN!
-
ping -f 255.255.255.255 # if only
OK, so Slashdot has no editors. OK, but posting the same story 3 times in one day? What the hell?
Okay it is April Fools but why the same thing three times on the same page?
Same story. Same editor. Two hours, 28 minutes apart.
I realize that April Fool's on Slashdot stopped being funny years ago, but this is ridiculous.
Ce n'est pas un vrai mouvement de robot!
I think the April fool's joke wasn't the multiple posts, but the horrendous load time.
Either way, i'm calling it -- another post of this story in an hour or so.
K, in the last 12 hours (~10:30pm last night, and 8:30am this morning), this has been posted twice.
And then it took another 5 minutes, to get to the comments (which there were none that I seen at the time of posting.)
First try... not really that funny.
Second try... not funny.
Third try... yeah... still not funny.
Try for another 8 times or so - maybe there is a threshold that isn't obvious. Maybe on it takes 9 or 10 tries before the hilarity kicks in.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
This must be why Slashdot is so badly Slashdotted today. I had to try a dozen times before it would even serve up the page. But it was worth it!
Yeah yeah, three dup's, same page, by taco, on April 1st.
At least try to be imaginative, like M$ files for bankruptcy, or George Bush Jr helps the environment or something.... sheesh!
Sig
Appended to the end of comments you post. 120 chars
Duplicates of jokes? This is totally getting out of hand. Normally on a day like today I would let this slide, but since duplicates are the norm, this can't be a joke!
Everybody and everything gets duped on April Fools Day! We're all dupes!
/. seems /.'ed this morning?
Oh, that Taco is a real cut-up.
Hey, is it just me (or is it another clever joke?) that
There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
See here for the comments on the other posting on this subject further down the page, also posted by CmdrTaco... perhaps CmdrTaco was up a bit too late last night sampling some tasty beverages ;-)
I get it. Its April fools. You're filling the front page with same story over and over. Ha ha ha!
I promise to never complain about dupes again.
So not only is this an April Fool's joke, it's been posted on /. not once, not twice, but THREE times in the past day. I mean, it wasn't *that* funny.
Just one calorie *not evil enough!*
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
First Taco dupes someone else's post, then he dupes himself. A double-dupe, or "tripe" (pun intended).
/.
This is a perfect example of why I will NEVER pay for
Triple post. 2 of them by the same guy.
(b/c of the caching reference) but this will be great if routers adjust their priorities .. I want to sniff all the evil bit packets. mmmmm, evil.
rfc editor's ftp is slashdotted, this is a working link:
http://hektik.org/rfc3514.txt
First post = slightly amusing
Second post = ludicrous
Third post = annoying
This is truly Evil!!! Make it stop!!!
Stop by my site where I write about ERP systems & more
Gosh, how many times are we going to see this "story" today? I know it April 1st, but "repetition != funny". Don't the guys that run /. site even read it?
Looks like CmdrTaco is stuck in some kind of a temporal loop. Quick, tell CmdrData to send a message to himself over a subspace channel, this is our only chance!
Sig ?
third repeat, second by you in 2.5 hours.
That takes talent!
Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
In unrelated news, a suggested improvement to the slashdot engine, which would add a so-called redundancy bit to the posted news, was presented to the Internet community. This 'bit' would be set when the story posted to slashdot.org had alreadybeen posted earlier, thus informing the editors to reject the post. Unfortunately everyone took this as an April fools joke and the idea was rejected..as we have been just shown!
Yep.
Repairman: [pointing to a Good/Evil switch on the back of the doll]
Yup, here's your problem. Someone set this thing to ``Evil''.
Not Groundhog Day...
No, I don't want a free iPod
Once, twice, thrice an unfunny fake RFC makes it to the front page. Adding to the in-jokey humor, CmdrTaco greenlighted two of them. Ho ho! Poking fun of your inability to implement story management or spend any time editing a site you expect people to pay money for? You truly are the living end!
Just post this story and nothing else all day and be done with it. It can't be any worse than any of the dreck you normally shovel off on us for April Fool's. Oh, wait. Maybe you could work in a story about Microsoft going open source because the FSF figured out a way to make open source software profitable. That'd be great, thanks.
Easy does it!
This comment has been submitted already, 276865 hours , 59 minutes ago. No need to try again.
I sniffed the packets from this duplicate article, and the evil bit was not set! I demand Slashdot immediately implement RFC3514 for all duplicate articles!
--
"Open source is good." - Steve Jobs
"Open source is evil." - Microsoft
That would be a great day and our browsers will know it's duplicate and mod accordingly.
But then we'd be stuck with them triple posting, setting the bit twice and either reverting the post back to "double post bit: off" or just crashing the whole universe.
In any case, it should be interesting.
Nouvelles de jeux et technologies en français. TC
I knew it was worth getting up today.
so it DEMANDS reposting at every opportunity, damnit!
"Don't worry, it's not loaded." --Terry Kath
With all this story repetition, I'm starting to think I'm in 'Groundhog Day'...
Also, what's with slashdot being all broken? Anyone else getting this or does it just hate me? This was supposed to be a "FP!!!!!111" but I haven't been able to reply for hours.
Rob, this story was great the first time I saw it. It was even better when you posted it 2 hours later. Now it's just utterly hilarious! Please post it again and again so it becomes the best April Fool's Joke EVAR .
Go for it!!!
- A.P.
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
I figured it out. The "joke" is that they'll post this one story EVERY TIME someone submits it. Diabolical!
In the recent news, Slashdot has been found to have an Evil bit. This Evil bit was activated whenever the month of March rolled over to April and the Bit went to 1.
Gator/Claria is Spyware.
Is this the first time the same Slashdot story has been posted 3 times.... and ALL ON THE SAME DAY? We have entered a new era my friends! Now come drink the Koolaid with me, this is the sign we have been waiting for!
Random is the New Order.
De Ja Vuuuuu -hooo
Kingdom of Loathing (www.kingdomofloathing.com) Addicted is me
And the winner for the shortest time to post a dupe?
Taco! -- 5 minutes.
It's April Fool's day, not Groundhog Day!
Get it right, Taco.
mbbac
...when a dupe of a lame story was postetd to the front page only two slots above itself.
... and it's not funny now. Wtf.
first post... but with a message: "what the hell?".. shouldn't the editors look at least the frontpage to check they don't post the same storie twice?..
i suppose they are to bussy to read slashdot.
fp
So, CmdrTaco, now you see that the evil bit will always triumph, because the good bit is dumb.
You want a sig? I can get you a sig... Hell, I can get you a sig by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
on how many times this will be posted. I'm guessing 5.
Three posts all on the same subject...must be a new record, even for slashdot...
Evil Bit Added to TCP/IP Packets
Posted by CmdrTaco on 03:30 PM -- Tuesday April 01 2003
New RFC Adds "Evil Bit"
Posted by CmdrTaco on 01:02 PM -- Tuesday April 01 2003
RFC 3514: New Bit Defined for IPv4 Headers
Posted by jamie on 03:25 AM -- Tuesday April 01 2003
I was just about to forget it.
Rob, this story was great the first time I saw it. It was even better when you posted it 2 hours later. Now it's just utterly hilarious! Please post it again and again so it becomes the best April Fool's Joke EVAR .
Go for it, man!!!
- A.P.
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
First, the original by jamie last night - RFC 3514: New Bit Defined for IPv4 Headers, then CmdrTaco dupes it with New RFC Adds "Evil Bit", but never to let himself be out done, he's BACK 2 and a half hours later with Evil Bit Added to TCP/IP Packets! Way to go, Taco! Congrats!
Why is /. so freaking slow? And what's up with the triplicate stories that appear on the FRONT PAGE?!?!!
This one is for slashdot for repeating an article:)
Ok, now it's funny again.
Whee! First triple, april fool's day post:
I only wish it was a joke... *sigh*
dude, you're not fooling us. you screwed up and posted yet another dupe, and now you're playing the "i meant to do that game". whatever, either you care enough to check for dupes or you don't, and it's been pretty clear lately that you don't.
April Fool's Day on Slashdot stopped being funny years ago. But now, we get DUPE April Fool's Day stories?
Same editor. Same story. 2 hours, 28 minutes apart. Is this intended as a joke? Because it's even less funny than the story itself...
Hint for geeks who are still trying to cultivate a sense of humor: If it's not as funny the second time, it's REALLY not as funny the 350th time. Yes, that includes All Your Base, Natalie Portman's hot grits, etc.
And no, dupe posts of a semi-funny joke aren't funny.
Sigh.
Ce n'est pas un vrai mouvement de robot!
... it's nice to see Taco has a sense of humor about the things he (and /. in general) get's flamed for. Especially considering /. is free (if you want it that way) and no one has much right to complain. Next year, the editors should all get FP's and mod themselves way down ;)
I'm the big fish in the big pond bitch.
posted 3 stories ago? Or just not a funny as the original not funny april fool?
here's a tough one - april fools, or sad reality of slashdot?
You'd think they would really fool us on this particular day by not duping...
rk
So does this become an amusing april fool's story after the third time it's posted?
I still find it amusing that people have comments the third time this article is posted :)
That might help. April fools!
...the same April Fool's joke twice!
This is not about this third dupe. The true joke is all these people saying "hey third dupe, its lame!"...
:-)
when, tomorrow, they will discover its the same everyday
is it my connex, or is /. getting hammered?
Certainly when executing an HTTP GET this needs browser support:
// adios, sucker! /* and I don't care if this joke is a dup; so is the story! */
if (httpReferer.matches("slashdot.org"))
getRequest.setFlags(EVIL_FLAG);
Please stop the madness.
Thank you.
http://almostsmart.com
Meta-april fools joke or has Taco's short term memory finally dropped to the level of a fruit fly from too much UT2003?
Would all packets coming from Microsoft computers be flagged evil?
As a member of the IETF*, I argued vociferously for a minimum of 3 bits (two to encode [good evil neutral], the third to encode [lawful chaotic]); but after much argument over the space limitations, and confusion over how to interpret the "extra" bit pattern, I was finally shouted down with cries of "you're either with us, or against us!" * Not.
why dont you guys just stop withthe April Fool's garbage.
you are not any good at it.
3 posted on the main page abotu the evil bit, which wasnt all that funny to begin with
First Post
Ti* is a bfm
This has got to be the lamest repost I have ever seen.
Lame.
I've seen redundant stories posted here before, but this is the first time I've seen it happen so quickly that the first posting was still up on the front page!
"Weapons should be hardy rather than decorative" - Miyamoto Musashi
I think that goes for OS's too
I can understand doing april fools jokes but 3 freaking times??? What is going on around here?
haven't we seen this before http://slashdot.org/articles/03/04/01/133217.shtml ?tid=95 [slashdot.org]
Did CmdrTaco have the evil bit set when he uploaded this article ?
Is this the slashdot editor's equivalent of the first post game ?
Why not just post all articles five times in a row? Then we'll be sure to see it!
interesting noone thouight to update the batch patch
C'mon CmdrTaco... and its only 3 articles down...
2 17 &mode=thread&tid=95
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/01/133
On this obvious dupe, posted by CmdrTaco, of all people!
this is the second warning by CmdrTaco about the Evil Bit, (and the third one in the front page) so I'm going quickly to save all my bits.
PS: I think that there's still place for another Evit Bit story.
...funnier each time. A few more times and I need replacement abs. Oh wait, you probably need to have some first...
Uh, oh, I've seen many dupes on Slashdot, but tripe?
A new era begins...
homepage: www.tls.pl
signature: not found
I'm guessing probably 5... maybe up to 7.
you big fat twat taco
Would the evil bit have prevented this? ;)
Come on, at least have different people post each one.
Already a double post of an April Fools joke within 2 hours. Very impressive.
Incidentally, shouldn't these jokes be funny? Jeesh.
"Stumble before you crawl"
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/01/133217 &mode=nested&tid=95
I read /., does taco read /.? Apparently not.
"The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
ssia
Now it's just silly. A couple times was amusing. Now yer just engaging in sado-masochism bestial necrophilia.
The addition of the extra bit is believed to improve the utilization of time slots during routing. The current windowing algorithm fluctuates based on even-odd packet sizes. The extra bit only applies to odd sized packets and thus "evens" everything out. People at Caltech have been saying this for the past 10 years!
... now that all packets will have an even byte size.
... back to WC3.
There is a potential for increased packet loss due to a slight degradation in detecting corrupt packets
Oh well
Apparently they think all these dupes make a good April Fool's joke.
:-)
Of course, it's not a joke if you're used to it
We're going for a dupe world record!!
Wow, now we can represent 3 types of evil...
f all stories today and they still can't spot dupes
...dupes!
PJRC: Electronic Projects, 8051 Microcontroller Tools
honestly three times on the front page...
Let me see... this deliberate re-posting wouldn't have *anything* to do with April Fool's, would it now?
Can someone explain to me how Taco can dupe his own dupe?
--LP
buy referencing trustworthycomputing.com)misa, &/or FUDge.controll.ceNTroll.
lookout bullow. va lairIE turning up the volume of his patentdead PostBlock(tm) device is not good gnus.
the Godless frauduleNT payper liesense hostage ransom stock markup felons upon the pacific crest annex of wall street of deceit, are still busy trying to make a profit on yOUR dreams/exploding babies, etc...
the creator is monitoring the situation, & is participating. lookout bullow.
...as it's been posted twice :)
____
nico
Nico-Live
Could you guys please just die and burn in hell for all eternity?
Could a dupe be more obvious?
Must be some kind of April fool's troll...
Is it me or did Taco dupe his own story, on the same day whilst the old one is still on the front page?
We need that for all of our 'positive' gamin'.
Let me see... This deliberate reposint of stories wouldn't have *anything* to do with April Fool's day, would it?
... is such a nice thing ....
Well, if the abbreviated form of duplicate is "dupe", that must make this story... tripe!
This sig left unintentionally blank.
"Hey Mr. Taco, this story appears three times on the homepage, being attributed twice to you as a poster."
"Yes, I know. April fool! Hahahah!"
"I want to laugh and feel caught out by the joke, but I'm finding it difficult to derive humour from it."
"That's because it was a genuine mistake! hahhah! April Fool!"
"It's still not funny. You're not getting out that easily."
"..."
PGP KeyId: 0x08D63965
wow, slashdot is simply unbelievable, two, i repeat 2 posts of the same stupid joke within a few hours. Don't you even check the frontpage before you post , taco?
dupe
And also by Cmdr Taco:
New RFC Adds "Evil Bit"
On April 1st, 2003 with 143 comments
Nashirak writes "This is new RFC that introduces new security measures into IPv4 header. The measures include an "evil bit" that can be set an unset according...
Whats with this recent surge of evil bits stories? Is this some let-Bush-edit-for-a-day thing slashdot is trying out?
Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes
Maybe they should call the "Evil Bit" the DRM bit. DRM packets are the only non-evil packets, of course. ;-)
Also, it looks like /.'s implemented the bit already, and it's had a negative impact on TCP/IP retransmits. Particularly packets that result in an article being posted (and reposted) to /.
--JoeProgram Intellivision!
I wonder if Taco got a little chapped about my 10 point joke about dupes in the previous dupe?
Taco, did I frost your mouse?
Duped story
Even by ./ standard this must be a record, hat rick of same post and twice by Taco....
Luckily there are more creative journalists in the world.
If I resubmit this story, will it become the fourth copy????
I had no idea the IETF worked that fast. 2 RFC's within... hmmm lets see... 2 hours?!
Go Taco go!
Not only is this the third time today this article has been posted, but the second time by CmdrTaco.. I hate april fools day.
So what would we call the third post of the same article? Plus since there are no comments this has got to be the best April Fools Joke in that everyone will think they have first post. Woohoo
I love the jokes today, but we really need to start being more innovative.
it's not going to stop until you wise up, no it's not going to stop. so just give up.
First Post in a TRIPLICATE April Fool post that is ruled, in Soviet Russia, by Beowulf cluster of nude Nathalie Portman, covered in hot grits and saying that BSD is DEAD, Doggoneit!!
There... I feel better...
The right to offend is far more important than the right not to be offended. (Rowan Atkinson)
April Dupe's Day!
The number of duplicated stories is silly. Especially when they're only a couple of positions apart on the main page! I would feel ripped off if I'd paid. It's not like it's a new issue either.
Posting a dupe of a story, and then two and a half hours later posting ANOTHER dupe of the SAME story?
Taco, I sincerely hope this is your idea of an April Fool's joke, because otherwise... you've got some serious attention span issues, hon.
--
viqsi - See "vixen"
If we do not change our direction we are likely to end up where we are headed.
You *so* funny.
Double posting? Normal. Twice on the same page? Amusing but not really unbelievable. Thrice in one Day... Gotta be April first (I hope).
Since there was about a 2 minute delay between hitting reply and getting a post window I'm assuming this is already redundent
*slaps cowboy, the jokes on you!
... trip must be what Taco's on.
... is whot bwings os tugevza tsuzay.
hooray for slashdot subscriptions. Now what is the point of paying for this garbage again??
ontopic meta criticism.
Knowing CmdrTaco, this might NOT be an April fools joke..
Three duplicates on the same page?
Slashdot on April 1st is ultra gay.
WTF is with all these posts about this dang bit, sure it's April 1, is this a joke or something, if so, it's quite boring actually.
A fresh story.
Triple dupes? This is getting absurd.
April fools
April fools
Headlines:
Microsoft steal all bits, to make them more evil than the devil himself.
--
Life would be so simple if packets were clearly marked by either setting or not setting their evil bit. It would make the process of deciding which packets to discard so much easier.
Come on taco, this is April Fools day, not Groundhog day starring Bill Murray.
zuh? I'm confused
April fools day! Jokes on you Mr. Bellovin. :P
Absolut Ralts notes that " RFC 3514 is now available. It provides for an additional so called 'Evil Bit' that can be used to determine the nature of the TCP/IP packet. This should vastly simplify networking and internet security, and prevent the beepers of tired sysadmins from going off and interfering with Warcraft III!"
OK do you /. editors even read the front page anymore??
Not even 2.5 hours later and this ones a dupe.
Let's see we have:
This one
and then,
This one
RTFFP please.
xyzzy
[poof]
Apparently CmdrTaco has also found the other new bit, the repeating one...
dup
This is a cute April Fool's RFC (although I prefer the classic "TELNET Subliminal Message Option" or "IP Transmission Over Avian Carriers" RFCs), but did we really need to be told about this three times today?
Deven
"Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay
Lovely!
Current scores:
CmdrTaco: 2
Timothy: 0
In a resounding move, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda has leaped into the lead over Timothy "I love dupes" with an amazing double-dupe!
Analyists believe Timothy's only chance to get back into the game is to try for a double-doggy-dupe.
We'll keep you updated...
It's not a dupe, it's a tripe, right?
I understand that this is great news but isn't posting it 3 times in the same day too much ? :>
This has to be one of the lamest april fools RFC's I've seen in a long time
Evil Dupe Added to Slashdot News-post
And two and a half hours later at that. Impressive.
what happened to the day when people would post a simple note pointing to an article rather than giving the whole damn thing away before you read the RFC? If I got sent a link to WOM (write only memory) or CPIP (RFC for carrier pidgeon IP) that gave away the whole damn thing i would be pissed.
In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
Maybe the evil bit is responsible for all these dupes!
Could it be that CmdrTaco has caught the bug and feels the need to repost or is that a tad bit of relevance to each post. BTW, Micro$oft bought linux today. :)
It is probably not a first (this is Slashdot after all) but this is a rare happening. Let the fun and flames begin.
Third time isn't a charm
Oh my GODS, Taco repeated a story! He's having a stroke, folks!!
Believe nothing, not even if I say it, if it violates your sense of reason -- Buddha
The third time it's downright annoying.
And are slashdot's evil bits currently set? slashdot behaves like it's being slashdotted itself.
I'm thinking this might be the /. April fools joke--dupe the story over and over and over. The fact that Taco's posted it twice is suspicious.
All in all, not a bad joke.
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
Not only is this an unprecedented triple-dup, but Taco has actually resorted to doing dups of his own articles...
(First post?)
I can't wait until this is over...
THREE times?
It's gone from funny to annoying. Even the first time, the RFC was cute but no side-splitter.
If you can't be funny, at least be useful. There must be SOME tech news today....
Is it possible to add evil bits to duplicate posts on /.? :)
Just because I ROCK; it doesn't mean I am made out of stone!
See New RFC Adds "Evil Bit"
If, this RFC is accepted then all I have to do is create a program that does not follow this standard, set the bit to 0 and attack.
Can I have some of the stuff too? ;-)
open (SIG, "</dev/zero"); $sig = <SIG>; close SIG;
Jesus Freaking Christ!
DJCC
Of course, if duplicate stories are an April Fool's prank, then the editors must believe that every day is April Fool's on Slashdot.
Why do we need the "dickhead" option?
We have Cmdr Taco posting the same story twice!
How many times can we post about the same stinkin RFC?! Third time's a charm? .. and a hat-trick! Yay! Two story posts were even about the same feature I think. What's extra cool is they're all from CmdrTaco.
Methinks there's a RoboTaco who's taken over lately?
1. Profit
2. ???
3. Set evil bit!
What's the point of having an evil bit if you don't do something evil with it time and again. I mean, it IS an evil bit after all, what do you expect. It's not every person who knows how to make the most of an evil bit. It's not like it's an evil byte you know, but one of those could come in handy, it's an evil bit, and you simply have to make the most of an evil bit, because it's only so much evil, hardly enough to go around, don't you know.
This is getting silly now...
How's that for the wonders of Open Source. The great Guys at Ethereal http://www.ethereal.com have already written a patch to decode the evil bit
0 4/ msg00000.html
http://www.ethereal.com/lists/ethereal-dev/2003
slashnik
That movie with Bill Murray where the same day keeps happening ... over .. and over.. again ... oh ... Groundhog Day..
and why do I feel like I'm a participant and Slashdot is the host?
April Fools Day is not a license to get stoned before noon.
obviously no deficiencies vs. no obvious deficiencies
Slashdot is not about the dupe now. It's full of TRIPE.
The annual april fools crapfest serves to remind us all, on this very special day, how much worse the whole mess of perl scripts and duct tape could be.
I am not a number! I am a man! And don't you
you'd almost think that there was no real news today at all! Too bad we can't moderate the mods who post the news!
Sehr geehrter Toilettenbenutzer!
How many times are we going to see the evil bits story posted on the front page of /. today??
I'm putting my money on 5. Any takers?
OH ITS A DUPE OH MAN WHY CAN'T TACO READ HIS OWN POSTS YOU WOULD THINK THIS IMPORTANT SITE WOULD BE RUN BY PEOPLE WHO KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS /. AND *THINK* FOR A SECOND GOD THIS TOTALLY INVALIDATES SLASHDOT IN MY EYES OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE AMATEURS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD ANY REAL RESPONSIBILITY JEEZE AT LEAST LOOK DOWN 3 OR 4 POSTS BEFORE YOU CLICK SUBMIT AAAAAA BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH I LOVE TO HEAR MYSELF TALK IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT *BONK* OW JESUS WHAT WAS THAT
/. 'lameness filter' wont let it go through. Putting all of this normal text down here at the bottom really takes something away from the knee-jerk idiot image i was trying to portray, but oh well, I guess you all get the idea.
*sigh*. I was going to leave it at that, but the
Having a Slashdot editor post several dupes in honor of April Fool's Day is sort of like Saddam celebrating by gassing 10,000 Kurds.
But really folks, a duplicate submission by the same editor within 148 minutes? Outrageous!!!
New game for those tired of google-games: find the shortest interval duplicate submission. Easy attack mode: look for duplicated links, e.g. ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3514.txt, as the giveaway and compare posting times.
New idea for a submission filter for the editors: implement the comparison of links concept to weed out duplicate postings by editors. If this were really implemented in the slashcode, however, it could destroy the whole nature of reality for ./ers who have come to expect, nay rely upon, the duplicates.
I didn't use the word "dupe" because I must admit the first time I saw an editorial comment saying "yes it's a dupe", I thought someone had been duped into believing something that is untrue. Of course, that's an everyday occurence here, not something which is reserved for April 1st.
I must admit that I enjoy these April Fools' items.
Ok so with the first dupe everyone proposed the slashdot dupe bit, which would clearly have been 1 for that dupe.
But for the second dupe does it wrap to 0 again or take on some other value to be defined only by IETF^H^H^H^HSlashdot consensus ?
... about 24 hours worth.
Infuriate left and right
wasn't that just a fun April's fool. Had to post it three times.
In Soviet Russia, I ruled you
Lawful Good
Lawful Neutral
Lawful Evil
Neutral Good
True Neutral
Neutral Evil
Chaotic Good
Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Evil
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CmdrTaco posts the same story 2 1/2 hours apart... is that how long his memory is, or is someone else helping out?
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IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service? Do I feed the pigeons spoiled grain, and let the receiver analyze the poop? Do I spraypaint them black? What if they're black already - do I spraypaint them white?
Clearly, this RFC needs a lot of work to integrate it into the Internet we've come to know and love.
I love vegetarians - some of my favorite foods are vegetarians.
Note: Parent should be moderated to -1 Redundant for being obtuse and clearly Not Getting It.
It's a joke on a joke. Consider it a meta-joke. Consider thyself stupid (not meta-stupid, although you probably are that as well).
The triple-posting is not the joke... The joke is the RFC itself, and I think CmdrTaco's posting it again and again until the /. community catches on. You're the dopes!!! From the RFC:
"This document defines the behavior of security elements for the 0x0 and 0x1 values of this bit. Behavior for other values of the bit may be defined only by IETF consensus [RFC2434]."
Which is obviously a joke. Are bits in ternary logic all of the sudden?!?!?
Evil Bid would be set for all repeats, occuring within given time period, which would significantly simplify routing and weeding off articles :)
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Taco, you are friggin awesome :).
;).
Hes doing it on purpose to get a rise out of you all. No matter how stupid Slashdotters in general think Taco is, hes not stupid enough to post the same story twice. Yeah he does dupes but come on... do you really think he'd post the same story twice unless it was on purpose?
The best part of this is that Taco is trolling the crap out of all of you and hes probably sitting at work reading the comments and laughing his ass off.
Now a real April fools joke would be Katz posting a story that didn't have the phrase "... in these post 9/11 times..."
can't sleep slashdot will eat me
C'mon guys, this is the third time this story has been posted. Both of the last two were posted by senior taco himself! What gives?
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There's a wicked cool RFC that's just been posted at ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3514.txt. It's like the best prank EVER! Like, it'll make people post like CRAZY! They'll be all like "Post it again, Taco!" and then Taco will be like "DUUUUDE!", and then like he'll post it a whole buch-a-times, and everybody will be like "whoa, is this Groundhog Day, like that Bill Murray movie", and they'll start like coming up with their own anti-multi-post-slashdot-rfc's and it'll be like so totally funny. But then like some people will be like "that's not funny", but like, that will be TOTALLY funny, so like ya gotta post it cause this will just be SOOOOOO cool pimp dawg! Sup?
Are you sure you included a URL? Didja test them for typos?
Why would I include a urinal?
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I did. Post it rookie beeeotch!
OK, as I have understood from all the reports today, this is the third "evil bit" added to the Internet Protocol.
Using all these three bits together, it is now possible to express 2^3 = 8 different levels of evilness, ranging from 000 = "not an evil datagram at all" to 111 = "a more evil datagram than anything you can imagine". And yesterday we had no means of indicating the degree of evilness in a datagram at all! Talk about progress!
hmm... where did I see that before???
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for me the link never worked, this one did:
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/rfc/rfc35
set your bits!
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awake and alert!
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That's your problem! This TCP/IP packet is set to *evil*!
Just raise the taxes on crack.
You know, you really have to admire a man who can laugh at himself.
The parent is both "Insightful" and "Redundant"? MOC, again. I rest my case.
If all this should have a reason, we would be the last to know.
Slashdot subscription based dupe-checking a complete success!
Right...........
Exactly how does this work?
When you ping someone it asks "Are you evil? - Please tell the truth." or "Do you want send this package as a part of a malicious scheme?"...?
GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
Man, this is the third time today I got fooled by that same RFC...
There are 010 kinds of people. Those who understand octal, those who don't, and 06 other kinds of morons.
First. Funny Slashdot April Fools' Joke. Ever.
=== "Some people see the glass as half-empty. Others see it as half-full. I see the glass as too big." -G. Carlin.
I'm prepared!!
it does require a patch, but it's integrated in the statefull module of ipchains.
example: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state EVIL -j DROP
Privacy is terrorism.
taco, you fuckup.
i bet he just gives his slashdot account to monkeys and lets them randomly post things.
i'd been loathing this day on this site for a while, and it has not let me down. or it has. i can't tell.
1) A first exclusive interview gets posted twice.
2) New scientific discoveries sound familiar.
3) 10 questions turn into 20.
4) Last interviews turn into next to last.
5) Congress is considering the first ever digital cloning ban.
6) Duplicate replies to duplicate posts get duplicate moderation.
7) The only thing not duplicated is polls (not even sure about that).
8) 1000/1 = The ratio of time it takes for moderators to discover a dupe vs. the readers.
9) 0 = The number of dupes deleted.
10) The post (God forbid) announcing its closing will probably be posted twice.
Never take moderation advice from sigs, including this one.
Hey guys, nevermind this article, I found something even more amazing.
I know it's offtopic, but have you guys heard about this new RFC3514 that implements an "Evil Bit" for TCP/IP?
Haha, good joke! Good thing the EVIL BIT told me it was a dupe!
You know the law: Use a pun; go to prison!
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What's amusing about this is how he has you all up in arms. :D
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I'm submitting this article right now! It my best chance to be published on /.!
Sorry to disappoint everybody, but I already have a patent covering this idea. My licensing fees are very reasonable though, so I don't expect it to be a problem.
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Beepers interfering with Warcraft III!!!
AHHHHHHH!!!!!
Silly people
What a nightmere! A beeper going off while I'm chain lightning a bunch of wisps!!!
NOT FUNNY!
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What's really funny is reading all the comments of people getting pissed off :) Way to go, Taco!
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now that we have established a BAD april fools article, how about we stop doing them. After the first few years it gets kinda old.
AND not that long ago, this was A DUPLICATE AND an april fools article BOTH which I HATE.
Stop with the april fools, tag them jokes, put them in the humor section WHATEVER, just make it so I can filter this garbage out.
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It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Posting it again has spawned almost 300.
Very clever...
"Nothing shocks me. I'm a scientist." -Indiana Jones
word is bond.
"On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog!" - a dog
I started laughing when i read this and explained to my girlfriend about the triple post and the evil bit. She just squinted at me and left. Girls just dont get it. Why doesnt chris rock talk all jiggity about tcp/ip standards.
Has this every happened, triple dupe ??
I guess because it's April Fool's Day, 4-1-2003.
that he might be doing it on purpose? To annoy you?
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I find a great article about an invisibility cloak try to submit and they reject, but this crap gets published 3 times? Someone needs a karma adjustment.
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Network Working Group S. Bellovin
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Request for Comments: 3514 AT&T Labs Research
Category: Informational 1 April 2003
The Security Flag in the IPv4 Header
Status of this Memo
This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.
Copyright Notice
Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2003). All Rights Reserved.
Abstract
Firewalls, packet filters, intrusion detection systems, and the like often have difficulty distinguishing between packets that have malicious intent and those that are merely unusual. We define a security flag in the IPv4 header as a means of distinguishing the two cases.
1. Introduction
Firewalls CBR03 , packet filters, intrusion detection systems, and the like often have difficulty distinguishing between packets that have malicious intent and those that are merely unusual. The problem is that making such determinations is hard. To solve this problem, we define a security flag, known as the "evil" bit, in the IPv4 RFC791 header. Benign packets have this bit set to 0; those that are used for an attack will have the bit set to 1.
1.1. Terminology
The keywords MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT, SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, RECOMMENDED, MAY, and OPTIONAL, when they appear in this document, are to be interpreted as described in RFC2119
2. Syntax
The high-order bit of the IP fragment offset field is the only unused bit in the IP header. Accordingly, the selection of the bit position is not left to IANA.
The bit field is laid out as follows:
0
+-+
|E|
+-+
Currently-assigned values are defined as follows:
0x0 If the bit is set to 0, the packet has no evil intent. Hosts, network elements, etc., SHOULD assume that the packet is harmless, and SHOULD NOT take any defensive measures. (We note
that this part of the spec is already implemented by many common desktop operating systems.)
0x1 If the bit is set to 1, the packet has evil intent. Secure systems SHOULD try to defend themselves against such packets. Insecure systems MAY chose to crash, be penetrated, etc.
3. Setting the Evil Bit
There are a number of ways in which the evil bit may be set. Attack applications may use a suitable API to request that it be set. Systems that do not have other mechanisms MUST provide such an API; attack programs MUST use it.
Multi-level insecure operating systems may have special levels for attack programs; the evil bit MUST be set by default on packets emanating from programs running at such levels. However, the system MAY provide an API to allow it to be cleared for non-malicious activity by users who normally engage in attack behavior.
Fragments that by themselves are dangerous MUST have the evil bit set. If a packet with the evil bit set is fragmented by an intermediate router and the fragments themselves are not dangerous, the evil bit MUST be cleared in the fragments, and MUST be turned back on in the reassembled packet.
Intermediate systems are sometimes used to launder attack connections. Packets to such systems that are intended to be relayed to a target SHOULD have the evil bit set.
Some applications hand-craft their own packets. If these packets are part of an attack, the application MUST set the evil bit by itself.
In networks protected by firewalls, it is axiomatic that all attackers are on the outside of the firewall. Therefore, hosts inside the firewall MUST NOT set the evil bit on any packets.
Because NAT RFC3022 boxes modify packets, they SHOULD set the evil bit on such packets. "Transparent" http and email proxies SHOULD set the evil bit on their reply packets to the innocent client host.
Some hosts scan other hosts in a fashion that can alert intrusion detection systems. If the scanning is part of a benign research project, the evil bit MUST NOT be set
I believe some joker already released an NMAP patch that flips this bit. Who want's to bet there are scans occuring on the net with this bit set already? =)
While you are all bickering about whether the triplicate posts are a joke or not, you're missing out on the fact that the RFC itself is a complete joke!
3. Setting the Evil Bit. There are a number of ways in which the evil bit may be set. Attack applications may use a suitable API to request that it be set. Systems that do not have other mechanisms MUST provide such an API; attack programs MUST use it.
Wait a minute... as a virus author, it is my duty to make sure my virus sets the EVIL bit so as to clearly identify itself as harmful? LOL... yeah, THAT's clearly real.
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Since /. has been /.'ed today, bbspot has posted a couple mirrors of all of todays headlines here Mirror 1 and Mirror 2
RFC 3515 specifies the Ethnic Origin Identifier (EOID) flag added to IPv4 packets.
enough, this have been posted FOUR separate times so far:
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http://slashdot.org/articles/03/04/01/133217.sh
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/04/01/1434209.s
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/04/01/1440230.s
Gosh, all this effort each year just to make fun of people who still think April 1st is the first day of the year. I.e. the tax departments of the world, who don't care what that uppity new guy Julius Caesar says, starting the year in January will never catch on.
we're still on track.
...Evil bit sets YOU!
LOL !!!!!!!!!
If Slashdot had any value between 0 and 1, your post alone had made it worthwhile for me today =)
George W Bush today named himself the Good bit, and anything Arab the Evil bit. Everyone else will be sorted on a case-by-case basis. The NSA hailed this development, stating that it will help packet sorting by at least threefold, as well as aiding in priority sorting for Carnivore.
Mirosoft will not support RFC 3514, as it does not align with our security directions. We currently use certificates to identify trusted hosts. This proposal would mean millions of Windows users and the Microsoft domain would effectively be denied internet access. This is just another attempt by SUN and the government of China to prevent customers from using our software. We believe that everyone should just get a MS Passport account and let us identify those that are a security risk. We expect to announce a deal with a major airline carrier shortly that will provide a 5% discount to passengers that are cleared for boarding through the Microsoft Passport system. Such measures cannot be even imagined under RFC-3514. Although too advanced for Windows XP and earlier operating systems. Windows 2003 will have support for the first phase of this comprehensive security initiative. Microsoft will be expanding and offering these security services to Corporations as well as Individuals as .NET-BACK services.
I think this provides another compelling reason not to install Linux or any Open Source software. It is not enough to trust the 'bit', you have to trust the bit man.
Wow! A hat trick!
And apparently this is only the evil beginning....
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Hey, I enjoyed reading your dupe too. Why not post that again?
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