The advantages are there, but the contention was that Hydrogen is not a fuel *source*. The question no one seems to bring up is: Where is all this Hydrogen going to come from? There is no such thing as "Hydrogen deposits" that can be mined in any conventional sense. Right now, the only way to get Hyrdogen is to make it.
Yes you can mine it. There is even a large deposit of trapped H2 gas. Obviously you have not read about this or this. The article linked has been moved, but if you will read my post I quote the article as saying, "One of these natural hydrogen fields is already known to exist in North America, and extends from Canada to Kansas."
We will see where the future takes us with this (heck, it may take is to non-hydrogen fuel cells)!
You mean like Borax as Daimler-Chrysler did with it's Natrium minivan. The Sodium Boro-Hydride carries the H2 and it is extracted when needed. No storage problems, no compression needs. Gets 300 miles to the tank too.
There are two drawbacks. The first is you need to compress it to get a good power/volume ratio, and the second is that the molecules are so small they tend to leak out of anything trying to contain it. They are simple engineering problems though. The former we can already do without problem. The latter various materials are being tested for containers, as is storing the hydrogen within another compound such as boron and then using a catalyst to release it upon demand.
Or Borax as Daimler-Chrysler did with it's Natrium minivan. The Sodium Boro-Hydride carries the H2 and it is extracted when needed. No storage problems, no compression needs. Gets 300 miles to the tank too. So what are we waiting for?
From my personal experience, this is a no brainer. Proliant kicks the trash out of anything HP has had for years. I once managed a data center with 100 Proliants. In two years we had three drives (out of 400) and one power supply go bad.
Which to keep: Jornada or iPaq?
iPaq because of branding/name recognition. Jornada just doesn't have the market penetration of Jornada.
Which to keep: HP Desktops or Compaq desktops
Tough one there, but I would say merge the two and keep the best features from each. Throw out the crap and try using something a little less proprietary.
And the first 8 digits are determined by your card. And the last 1 or 2 are determined by the checksum. So now we're down to 7 digits. 1 in 10 million. Then assume that there are 1000 other people using the card. Bam, you're down to 1 in 10,000.
Now add to that the expiration date and "signature code" and you have two more keys to verify you are holding that card in your hand. Sure, Credit Cards suck in and of themselves, but there is more to it than a number. More e-tailers I do busines with ask for those three things and sometimes a phone number to call the issuing bank.
I will have to get a new hard drive for games only. With Q3, UT, Descent series, Civ3, Empire Earth and the impending release of NWN and WC3, my 15GB drive is hating life.
No matter what Americans think, the Chinese are not inept idiots and when the shit hits the fan, are as capable of wiping the US off the face of the earth just as the US can do the same to it.
The Chinese aren't inept, just different. More to the point, they see the American government as a bastard regime and feel it their divine right to interfere. Furthermore, not even *if* all 20 of their nukes made it to the US would the Americans be wiped off the face of the earth.
And please, comparing Alexander The Great to Curious George is an insult of global proportions....
If you are going to be so obvious in your trolling, you should try to bury it a little deeper in the thread...
The government should stay out of religion all together, which includes protecting their copywrited religion works.
The problem with this (while I agree with you) is that frequently groups will use religion as a shield to conduct various anti-government, civil rights breaking and otherwise socially degenerating practices. The Library of Congress holds the texts to which the Scientoligists vehemently protect. It also holds the ceremonies of the Masons, the temple rituals of the mormons and all other religous and mostly secret practices. So you see, the government has a way of making sure all things are kept in the open, even when we can't necessarily see them.
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At least it isn't Revolution X,
I never played a worse shooter, and the musical tie ins were laughable at best...
Speaking of musical tie-ins...
At least it is not "Dance, Dance Revolution OS". It would be scary^H^H^H^H^H cool to see Taco on said inflatable couch dancing to a few rave tunes.
As for the fastest man-made object, Deep Space 1 would have it I believe with its ion drive (53,100 kilometers per hour):
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/ deepspace_propulsion_000816.html
That was just an estimate of capability. For actual speeds, check the official website out here. Also look at the log archives of the different staff members. Here you will see that as of July 29, 2001 it was travelling at 16.5 km/s! That's 16,500 m/s or 0.055C. So you are correct, it is the fastest man-made object so far.
Here is some useless information about the Voyager spacecraft...
From the article:" Voyager 1 was launched on Sept. 5, 1977 and completed flyby exploration of both Jupiter and Saturn. The spacecraft now is rising above the ecliptic plane -- the plane in which most of the planets orbit the sun -- at an angle of about 35 degrees at a rate of about 520 million kilometers (about 320 million miles) a year.
Voyager 2 was launched on Aug. 20, 1977 and also completed visits to Jupiter and Saturn and then went on to explore Uranus and Neptune, completing the reconnaissance of the giant outer planets. The spacecraft is now diving below the ecliptic plane at an angle of about 48 degrees and a rate of about 470 million kilometers (about 290 million miles) a year.
So Voyager 1 is travelling at 320,000,000 miles per year. That is about 3090 m/s or 0.0103C. Not too shabby! Voyager 2 is at 290,000,000 miles per year or 2800 m/s or 0.0093C.
I wonder what the fastest man made object is? Hmmm let's see, this page says that the Ulysses probe was the fastest at 15 km/sec. That's 15,000 m/s or 0.05C! Then this page claims the Pioneer 10 was the fastest at 51,810 km/hour. That's 14,391.67 m/s or 0.04797C. So it looks like Ulysses wins. If you can find anything else to add to the list, please do!
Yes, believing in a "deity-influenced" universe means that you have put some blinders on. You will look for proofs that support your position (which is basically looking for very low percentage odds on certain things, or non-sensical behavior in creatures or systems).
Being someone who believes in a deity-influenced universe, I wish to make it clear that not all of us put blinders on. Indeed, I make it a point to examine as much as possible all points of view. This not only allows me to see a bigger picture, it helps me understand what motivates and inspires people. Which incidentally is far more important to me than possible 'alien' life forms. Of course I look for evidence to support my views, but I do not dismiss evidence that seemingly does not. Isn't that the mark of a good scientist? Collect, examine and categorize all available information. Maybe it's just me...
And if you did, you would rather get one on a Mac platform rather than an NT box. Trust me.
It's what my dad uses. And he *does* do video editing for a living.
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The SLI program is already confused because there is no end goal to it
I think you pointed out the actual problem when you said:
Congress has approved $5 billion for the Space Launch Initiative
Congress should be responsible for making sure the project is feasible, has reasonable goals and is in the hands of an agency that has the organization to accomplish said goals. Otherwise, they could be throwing the money out the window.
I would love to replace our Netware file/print environment with Linux/Samba, but I still haven't found a suitable replacement for Novell Zenworks.
If the workstations are going to stay windows, try Altiris Express. I use Zen 2.0 and am Altiris Certified. Next to Zen, Altiris is the best for workstation inventory/app delivery and adds workstation imaging. You could even use the Zen app packages with Altiris. One drawback is that it is for profit so there will of course be a fee. I don't know if you are MLA with Novell, but if not, then the cost of switching would be negligible.
The old, worn out simple-minded person's quip "too much time on your hands" doesn't get laughs anymore, dude.
Buahahaha! You are soooooo funny. At least that is what I was attempting to be. Apparently, at least two other people agreed. So try to take things a little less seriously, mkay? Life is a lot easier to live when you aren't calculating every freaking angle , speed, mass and light reflectivity quotient.
If you don't want to use your brain, then don't, but do NOT criticize others for doing so
Hey, I wasn't slamming him, just trying to let him know that it's not a big deal. So he knows how to do simple math. Who cares? I'm an electrical engineer so I am not a dim bulb when it comes to math and science and I *don't* worry about stuff like that. I have a life and would rather play with my kids than spend hours on that crap. If it was one post with some follow up I could understand. But OMFG! He posted three of those books! On slashdot! It's not like it's a dissertation or lab project that happened to coorelate or something *important*. As for being simple minded, look in a mirror sometime, 'dude'.
From the court opinion:"The Supreme Court recognizes that both the United States and Colorado Constitutions protect the rights of the general public to purchase books anonymously, without governmental interference."
So it sounds like at least the court feels that the 1st ammendment covers anonymous book buying. What about anonymous music pirating?:-P
Are you trying to claim that naked weathergirls are wrong?
No, but I am trying to make a point with this as an example. Currently in the US, you can't see naked weather girls on regular TV. You can in Britain and most of Europe. America is "censoring" this type of programming. I am not offering an opinion of the rightness or wrongness of this type of entertainment.
Bad laws have been passed before and will be passed in the future. Just because they are law doesn't mean they aren't stupid or immoral and should not be fought (and sometimes broken).
I agree.
i claimed that it was silly to state that porn is addictive...
OK, but I still think you are wrong. It is addictive, induces endorphin production and causes a "high" in some people. Again, just because you have never experienced this does not mean it isn't real.
Undoubtedly millions of people see porn every day, yet only a vast minority find any addictive qualities to it
Complete speculation. I won't argue this point because it lacks any merit other than your opinion.
By your arguments, we should censor celebrities in order to protect a minority from ruining their marriages by becoming stalkers.
I am making no such suggestion and you are close to putting words into my mouth. If the government is going to make standards, then they should indeed be standard. If it is going to ban drugs because they pose a certain threat to the public health, then they should ban all things that have that same level of threat. Whether they be chemicals, weapons, computer programs or images. Since we have miscommunicated already I will try to be clear. I am not advocating censorship/gun control/drug legalization or anything else. I am merely pointing out that standards should be standard.
Porn... well that's not really a danger to all but a few who get obsessed with it and even then really doesn't produce the same results as several hundred pounds of metal travelling at high speeds into other people.
Certainly they are different in their immediate consequences. However, the effect on society, IMO is not so different. While I can't think of a porn related death, I can think of many broken homes, ruined careers and lost years. While we may disagree porn is this kind of a problem, I hope we can agree that anything that has these symptoms represents a danger to society. If you are still having doubts, I am sure I can link you to some studies on broken homes that support my argument.
As far as there being valid arguments in favor of filterware, I disagree strongly.
You are entitled to an opinion as am I. However, if I as a parent want to keep my kids from seeing porn on my home network, then I think it is perfectly acceptable for me to install filtering software. As for government implemntations of filterware, I agree that since filterware is flawed, there cannot be a good use for it in public settings like libraries.
While sex is a healthy subject, porn isn't something we can really expect libraries to support (although sex education is) if there is a reasonable way to not support it.
As an aside, I find this quote intriguing. Do you look at porn? If you have/will have kids, will you let them look at it? If so, then how do you reconcile this with libraries not supporting it? Just curious.
There are always going to be people who get addicted to things that they shouldn't be. However, this does not mean that the government should then be required to prevent anybody from accessing something that a few people find addictive.
I agree.
Sex is healthy.
I agree.
However it is neither the governments job to censor it, nor is it the government's job to try to protect us from something that is harmless to the vast majority.
I agree.
Somebody else's lack of control is not an excuse for somebody to censor me.
They why isn't there naked weathergirls on TV in the US? Just because we don't agree with the law doesn't make it wrong. What makes it (legally) wrong is that in a court's opinion it says it's wrong regardless of our personal views.
If you are of the opinion that such an act is justified then I really have no regard for how many weeks of though you've put into your opinion.
Close mindedness will never allow you or I to see another viewpoint. This self-limitation can only close off new ideas and thoughts which leads to and end of wisdom and learning. You and I can disagree on every single point of consideration. However, that does not preclude us from understanding each other's point of view. I understand that you think it's silly for someone to get addicted to porn. I think it's silly for someone to get addicted to nicotine. That does not mean I disregard smoking or chewing or people who do so.
People trying to censor what I can and can't see tends to get me more than a little mad.
Any limitation of personal freedoms is difficult to swallow for Americans and people in general. Personally, I feel competent enough to make my own decisions regarding right and wrong. Having morals dictated to me by government is not good. I have religion for that. However, having a government designed to protect me from drunk drivers is good. So there are some valid arguments for both sides of this fence.
Look at pictures 613 and 614, for example; they're both ends of the same service station! The same jeep is even in both pictures! Is this service station really a mile long?
OK, first there is no jeep. Second, 612 is grass/sky, 613 is a service stations and 614 is grass/sky
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The advantages are there, but the contention was that Hydrogen is not a fuel *source*. The question no one seems to bring up is: Where is all this Hydrogen going to come from? There is no such thing as "Hydrogen deposits" that can be mined in any conventional sense. Right now, the only way to get Hyrdogen is to make it.
Yes you can mine it. There is even a large deposit of trapped H2 gas. Obviously you have not read about this or this. The article linked has been moved, but if you will read my post I quote the article as saying, "One of these natural hydrogen fields is already known to exist in North America, and extends from Canada to Kansas."
You mean like Borax as Daimler-Chrysler did with it's Natrium minivan. The Sodium Boro-Hydride carries the H2 and it is extracted when needed. No storage problems, no compression needs. Gets 300 miles to the tank too.
Or Borax as Daimler-Chrysler did with it's Natrium minivan. The Sodium Boro-Hydride carries the H2 and it is extracted when needed. No storage problems, no compression needs. Gets 300 miles to the tank too. So what are we waiting for?
Which to keep: NetServer or Proliant?
From my personal experience, this is a no brainer. Proliant kicks the trash out of anything HP has had for years. I once managed a data center with 100 Proliants. In two years we had three drives (out of 400) and one power supply go bad.
Which to keep: Jornada or iPaq?iPaq because of branding/name recognition. Jornada just doesn't have the market penetration of Jornada.
Which to keep: HP Desktops or Compaq desktops
Tough one there, but I would say merge the two and keep the best features from each. Throw out the crap and try using something a little less proprietary.
And the first 8 digits are determined by your card. And the last 1 or 2 are determined by the checksum. So now we're down to 7 digits. 1 in 10 million. Then assume that there are 1000 other people using the card. Bam, you're down to 1 in 10,000.
Now add to that the expiration date and "signature code" and you have two more keys to verify you are holding that card in your hand. Sure, Credit Cards suck in and of themselves, but there is more to it than a number. More e-tailers I do busines with ask for those three things and sometimes a phone number to call the issuing bank.
I will have to get a new hard drive for games only. With Q3, UT, Descent series, Civ3, Empire Earth and the impending release of NWN and WC3, my 15GB drive is hating life.
No matter what Americans think, the Chinese are not inept idiots and when the shit hits the fan, are as capable of wiping the US off the face of the earth just as the US can do the same to it.
The Chinese aren't inept, just different. More to the point, they see the American government as a bastard regime and feel it their divine right to interfere. Furthermore, not even *if* all 20 of their nukes made it to the US would the Americans be wiped off the face of the earth.
And please, comparing Alexander The Great to Curious George is an insult of global proportions....If you are going to be so obvious in your trolling, you should try to bury it a little deeper in the thread...
The government should stay out of religion all together, which includes protecting their copywrited religion works.
The problem with this (while I agree with you) is that frequently groups will use religion as a shield to conduct various anti-government, civil rights breaking and otherwise socially degenerating practices. The Library of Congress holds the texts to which the Scientoligists vehemently protect. It also holds the ceremonies of the Masons, the temple rituals of the mormons and all other religous and mostly secret practices. So you see, the government has a way of making sure all things are kept in the open, even when we can't necessarily see them.
At least it isn't Revolution X,
I never played a worse shooter, and the musical tie ins were laughable at best...
Speaking of musical tie-ins...
At least it is not "Dance, Dance Revolution OS". It would be scary^H^H^H^H^H cool to see Taco on said inflatable couch dancing to a few rave tunes.
As for the fastest man-made object, Deep Space 1 would have it I believe with its ion drive (53,100 kilometers per hour): http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/ deepspace_propulsion_000816.html
That was just an estimate of capability. For actual speeds, check the official website out here. Also look at the log archives of the different staff members. Here you will see that as of July 29, 2001 it was travelling at 16.5 km/s! That's 16,500 m/s or 0.055C. So you are correct, it is the fastest man-made object so far.
Here is some useless information about the Voyager spacecraft...
From the article:" Voyager 1 was launched on Sept. 5, 1977 and completed flyby exploration of both Jupiter and Saturn. The spacecraft now is rising above the ecliptic plane -- the plane in which most of the planets orbit the sun -- at an angle of about 35 degrees at a rate of about 520 million kilometers (about 320 million miles) a year.
Voyager 2 was launched on Aug. 20, 1977 and also completed visits to Jupiter and Saturn and then went on to explore Uranus and Neptune, completing the reconnaissance of the giant outer planets. The spacecraft is now diving below the ecliptic plane at an angle of about 48 degrees and a rate of about 470 million kilometers (about 290 million miles) a year.
So Voyager 1 is travelling at 320,000,000 miles per year. That is about 3090 m/s or 0.0103C. Not too shabby! Voyager 2 is at 290,000,000 miles per year or 2800 m/s or 0.0093C.
I wonder what the fastest man made object is? Hmmm let's see, this page says that the Ulysses probe was the fastest at 15 km/sec. That's 15,000 m/s or 0.05C! Then this page claims the Pioneer 10 was the fastest at 51,810 km/hour. That's 14,391.67 m/s or 0.04797C. So it looks like Ulysses wins. If you can find anything else to add to the list, please do!
Yes, believing in a "deity-influenced" universe means that you have put some blinders on. You will look for proofs that support your position (which is basically looking for very low percentage odds on certain things, or non-sensical behavior in creatures or systems).
Being someone who believes in a deity-influenced universe, I wish to make it clear that not all of us put blinders on. Indeed, I make it a point to examine as much as possible all points of view. This not only allows me to see a bigger picture, it helps me understand what motivates and inspires people. Which incidentally is far more important to me than possible 'alien' life forms. Of course I look for evidence to support my views, but I do not dismiss evidence that seemingly does not. Isn't that the mark of a good scientist? Collect, examine and categorize all available information. Maybe it's just me...
Try a couple of google searches. Like this and this.
And if you did, you would rather get one on a Mac platform rather than an NT box. Trust me.
It's what my dad uses. And he *does* do video editing for a living.
The SLI program is already confused because there is no end goal to it
I think you pointed out the actual problem when you said:
Congress has approved $5 billion for the Space Launch Initiative
Congress should be responsible for making sure the project is feasible, has reasonable goals and is in the hands of an agency that has the organization to accomplish said goals. Otherwise, they could be throwing the money out the window.
I would love to replace our Netware file/print environment with Linux/Samba, but I still haven't found a suitable replacement for Novell Zenworks.
If the workstations are going to stay windows, try Altiris Express. I use Zen 2.0 and am Altiris Certified. Next to Zen, Altiris is the best for workstation inventory/app delivery and adds workstation imaging. You could even use the Zen app packages with Altiris. One drawback is that it is for profit so there will of course be a fee. I don't know if you are MLA with Novell, but if not, then the cost of switching would be negligible.
The old, worn out simple-minded person's quip "too much time on your hands" doesn't get laughs anymore, dude.
Buahahaha! You are soooooo funny. At least that is what I was attempting to be. Apparently, at least two other people agreed. So try to take things a little less seriously, mkay? Life is a lot easier to live when you aren't calculating every freaking angle , speed, mass and light reflectivity quotient.
If you don't want to use your brain, then don't, but do NOT criticize others for doing so
Hey, I wasn't slamming him, just trying to let him know that it's not a big deal. So he knows how to do simple math. Who cares? I'm an electrical engineer so I am not a dim bulb when it comes to math and science and I *don't* worry about stuff like that. I have a life and would rather play with my kids than spend hours on that crap. If it was one post with some follow up I could understand. But OMFG! He posted three of those books! On slashdot! It's not like it's a dissertation or lab project that happened to coorelate or something *important*. As for being simple minded, look in a mirror sometime, 'dude'.
From the court opinion:"The Supreme Court recognizes that both the United States and Colorado Constitutions protect the rights of the general public to purchase books anonymously, without governmental interference."
:-P
So it sounds like at least the court feels that the 1st ammendment covers anonymous book buying. What about anonymous music pirating?
Listed as one of the defendants attorney's:
"ACLU Foundation of Colorado"
My guess is that the Tattered Cover didn't pay a dime.
ASCII Tastes bad dude.
Just to clear up my stance on Internet filters in libraries, read this post.
Are you trying to claim that naked weathergirls are wrong?
No, but I am trying to make a point with this as an example. Currently in the US, you can't see naked weather girls on regular TV. You can in Britain and most of Europe. America is "censoring" this type of programming. I am not offering an opinion of the rightness or wrongness of this type of entertainment.
Bad laws have been passed before and will be passed in the future. Just because they are law doesn't mean they aren't stupid or immoral and should not be fought (and sometimes broken).
I agree.
i claimed that it was silly to state that porn is addictive...
OK, but I still think you are wrong. It is addictive, induces endorphin production and causes a "high" in some people. Again, just because you have never experienced this does not mean it isn't real.
Undoubtedly millions of people see porn every day, yet only a vast minority find any addictive qualities to it
Complete speculation. I won't argue this point because it lacks any merit other than your opinion.
By your arguments, we should censor celebrities in order to protect a minority from ruining their marriages by becoming stalkers.
I am making no such suggestion and you are close to putting words into my mouth. If the government is going to make standards, then they should indeed be standard. If it is going to ban drugs because they pose a certain threat to the public health, then they should ban all things that have that same level of threat. Whether they be chemicals, weapons, computer programs or images. Since we have miscommunicated already I will try to be clear. I am not advocating censorship/gun control/drug legalization or anything else. I am merely pointing out that standards should be standard.
Porn... well that's not really a danger to all but a few who get obsessed with it and even then really doesn't produce the same results as several hundred pounds of metal travelling at high speeds into other people.
Certainly they are different in their immediate consequences. However, the effect on society, IMO is not so different. While I can't think of a porn related death, I can think of many broken homes, ruined careers and lost years. While we may disagree porn is this kind of a problem, I hope we can agree that anything that has these symptoms represents a danger to society. If you are still having doubts, I am sure I can link you to some studies on broken homes that support my argument.
As far as there being valid arguments in favor of filterware, I disagree strongly.
You are entitled to an opinion as am I. However, if I as a parent want to keep my kids from seeing porn on my home network, then I think it is perfectly acceptable for me to install filtering software. As for government implemntations of filterware, I agree that since filterware is flawed, there cannot be a good use for it in public settings like libraries.
While sex is a healthy subject, porn isn't something we can really expect libraries to support (although sex education is) if there is a reasonable way to not support it.
As an aside, I find this quote intriguing. Do you look at porn? If you have/will have kids, will you let them look at it? If so, then how do you reconcile this with libraries not supporting it? Just curious.
There are always going to be people who get addicted to things that they shouldn't be. However, this does not mean that the government should then be required to prevent anybody from accessing something that a few people find addictive.
I agree.
Sex is healthy.
I agree.
However it is neither the governments job to censor it, nor is it the government's job to try to protect us from something that is harmless to the vast majority.
I agree.
Somebody else's lack of control is not an excuse for somebody to censor me.
They why isn't there naked weathergirls on TV in the US? Just because we don't agree with the law doesn't make it wrong. What makes it (legally) wrong is that in a court's opinion it says it's wrong regardless of our personal views.
If you are of the opinion that such an act is justified then I really have no regard for how many weeks of though you've put into your opinion.
Close mindedness will never allow you or I to see another viewpoint. This self-limitation can only close off new ideas and thoughts which leads to and end of wisdom and learning. You and I can disagree on every single point of consideration. However, that does not preclude us from understanding each other's point of view. I understand that you think it's silly for someone to get addicted to porn. I think it's silly for someone to get addicted to nicotine. That does not mean I disregard smoking or chewing or people who do so.
People trying to censor what I can and can't see tends to get me more than a little mad.
Any limitation of personal freedoms is difficult to swallow for Americans and people in general. Personally, I feel competent enough to make my own decisions regarding right and wrong. Having morals dictated to me by government is not good. I have religion for that. However, having a government designed to protect me from drunk drivers is good. So there are some valid arguments for both sides of this fence.
Look at pictures 613 and 614, for example; they're both ends of the same service station! The same jeep is even in both pictures! Is this service station really a mile long?
OK, first there is no jeep. Second, 612 is grass/sky, 613 is a service stations and 614 is grass/sky
I'm glad they didn't edit those out like so many movies have. It's a shame to attempt to erase from media what should be an icon of human endeavor.