If you pretend to be Slashdot.org when sending out spam, then it will get reported on Slashdot. They will probably show the entire message. The porn sites you're promoting get slashdotted. Loadsa hits! Everyone is happy (cept Slashdot of course).
Oops, looks like you forgot one of the moderator rules, don't reveal you're a moderator:)
I don't think it matters anymore, cos almost everyone is a moderator briefly now (AFAIK). Besides, since he posted a comment to this article, he's no longer able to moderate for this one.
Slashdot users tend not to understand it, believing every thing should be handed to them.
So you say...so some others say. I haven't seen any evidence of this though. RedHat obviously do sell a good number of boxes, despite the availability of cheap/free versions.
Anyway, I'm not sure if I believe in this myth of the Typical Slashdot Reader. Most slashdot readers don't even post comments.
*sigh* Yet another daft article by someone who thinks that the GPL means Free Beer instead of Free Speech. Is it really such a complicated concept that no journalist is capable of understanding it?!
It seems I cannot read these days. I'm often seeing Linux touted as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Upon reading these rave reviews, I can't think. Most of this admiration is lost on me because I only know Microsoft Windows, as well as the relatively low IQ I have.
But I think it's critical that we, as a community, keep a perspective on the impact of Linux for the following reasons.
Linux is an open-source project; therefore, all changes are subject to review and approval by people. Companies that add features to the kernel, and then change to a different version will have to change the version, in much the same way as if you do something, you may actually do it.
Windows supporters still outnumber Linux supporters because I love pointy-clicky things. Windows NT Server Enterprise Edition has many fun things that I think come as standard because I never pay for them myself. I haven't a clue what comes with Linux, and I'm too lazy to find out, so I'll just make something up. Whereas Microsoft's products are buggy and barely usable, users may spend a significant amount of time trying to integrate these components under Linux, most of which I spent working out how to get the | symbol on this keyboard. The most critical of these integrations will be security and access control. I have no idea what this means, but it sounds impressive, yeah?
Linux is just beginning to be retrofitted for symmetric multiprocessing. Huh huh-huh...I said retrofitted! Without robust SMP, Linux servers can support only small companies and run a single application (honest!). If you're running NT you'll be required to manage multiple servers for increased downtime, and you're better off using an abacus.
Also, remember that Linux is still not Windows. One of the reasons for Windows' growth has been the complexity of obtaining a computer without it. Simply because a low-cost alternative is now available, it does not automatically generate more revenue for Microsoft.
Linux is a college student's project gone astray. There are pornographic pictures embedded in the kernel, and it drinks all your beer before throwing up on your brand new carpet. The version that will be supported by Sun Microsystems and IBM on its hardware will fall far short of each of these company's own Unix operating systems in marketing and hype. If you're responsible for operating system selection in your company, be wary of the Linux play. Hey, I'm all for a competitor to Windows, just make sure it's not a serious one.
JP Morgen-Thrall is president of NC.Focus, which provides strategic planning, analysis and psychic predictions of application integration technologies. He can be reached at jp@ncfocus.com.
Remember you're talking to a person here. Many people are actually more intelligent than you.
They state this at the SETI site, and it takes about 3 seconds of any person to figure it out. They can't trust the clients and not giving out the source keeps people from screwing with the data and sending it back to them.
This is why the orignal person mentioned the "security through obscurity" thing. The point is it doesn't stop people screwing with the data. As everyone who knows anything about security knows, thinking that making things obscure is the same as making things secure is foolish.
I have had the opprotunity to work with NASA engineers. I am not too easily intimidated intellectualy. These guys intimidated me with there intellegence.
Ah!....uhh...no, I can't...(but four!)...Oh, OK, just forget it:-)
Maybe he just doesn't have the Linux spirit, I would have expected him to write something he likes
Umm...the Q3Test is out. Quake3 is due to be released shortly. Now, I've never worked in a commercial software house, but is this really the sort of time that the main programmers decide to start writing a new window manager?:-)
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Re:Isn't this a HUGE deal? Yes, and your point is?
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I was amazed when I discovered how long a 2.2 was out before the first 2.3 became public. Shouldn't there be roughly 2-2 2.3 releases for each 2.2 release? Shouldn't there have been at least several 2.3 releases out before 2.2.0 went out?
Nope, the 2.1 series led up to 2.2, while 2.3 leads to 2.4. There were "at least several" (ahem!) releases in the 2.1 series.
The Amiga and OS/2 died of starvation because their bigots drove everyone else away. Don't do the same to Linux.
Hmm...I doubt it. The vast majority of users on any platform don't read or follow any particular newsgroup/forum/whatever. Slashdot, for instance, has, maybe, 60,000 readers? That's a tiny proportion of Linux users. We see the flames and all, but most people don't and choose their OS/platform/WM on merit or by what they're given by default...
Not quite. Both GNOME and KDE are desktop environments, which, AFAIK, means that they control things like drag&drop and cut&paste and generally how applications talk to each other.
KDE comes with its own Window Manager called KWM, but you can use any WM you like. GNOME doesn't have one of its own and you can use any one you like. Obviously WMs which are GNOME or KDE aware are best for the respective environments.
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what is "f u kn rd ts, ur wy 2 gky 4 ur wn gd"
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what is "f u kn rd ts, ur wy 2 gky 4 ur wn gd."
i am stupid, i realize that, but all i can make out is "fuck you........., you are too geeky for your own good." please fill me in. i am irc deprived. 8( never been on it actually. by choice too.
Hmm...feel bad for reading "fuck you" in that sentence:-)
"If you can read this, you're way too geeky for your own good."
You need only one license until such time as a sufficiently determined legal team pokes a hole in the GPL that makes major portions of it unenforcable.
I've heard people suggest this, but haven't heard what they think the holes in the GPL are.
Anyway, so say I write some code, and release it under the GPL...
At that point, either the software becomes illegal to distribute
I see. So a court decides that it's illegal for me to say that people can freely copy my code? I'd like to see them explain the reasoning behind that! It's my code. I can give it away if I want.
or the copyleft becomes illegal to enforce
So a company can pick up my code and use it as they like without my permission? Presumably this hypothetical court feels like rewriting major parts of copyright law while the going is good...
I guess the point is that the GPL is just a way of applying copyright. It doesn't magically change it. So where are the major holes again?
At least 5 times I've tried opening a file in Word from a floppy disk with bad sectors (obviously I didn't know it at the time). NT 4 WorkStation, SP3. Result: BSOD.
Umm...of course they can't. What culture do you belong to that doesn't recognise that Linus post as humour? It's like the quote about Linus just being lazy and not caring about other people. Is this type of humour really that obscure? This isn't a flame, I'm really interested as I'm sure that humour does vary from place to place....I'm just not sure to what extent.
Slashdot Mirror
If you pretend to be Slashdot.org when sending out spam, then it will get reported on Slashdot. They will probably show the entire message. The porn sites you're promoting get slashdotted. Loadsa hits! Everyone is happy (cept Slashdot of course).
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There was a Windows 2.0 too
Which was, I think, the last version of Windows to ask if you wanted to install to HD or to floppy. I installed Win2.0 once :-)
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Oops, looks like you forgot one of the moderator rules, don't reveal you're a moderator
I don't think it matters anymore, cos almost everyone is a moderator briefly now (AFAIK). Besides, since he posted a comment to this article, he's no longer able to moderate for this one.
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Slashdot users tend not to understand it, believing every thing should be handed to them.
So you say...so some others say. I haven't seen any evidence of this though. RedHat obviously do sell a good number of boxes, despite the availability of cheap/free versions.
Anyway, I'm not sure if I believe in this myth of the Typical Slashdot Reader. Most slashdot readers don't even post comments.
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*sigh* Yet another daft article by someone who thinks that the GPL means Free Beer instead of Free Speech. Is it really such a complicated concept that no journalist is capable of understanding it?!
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Into Linux Adoption
JP MORGEN-THRALL
June 14, 1999
It seems I cannot read these days. I'm often seeing Linux touted as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Upon reading these rave reviews, I can't think. Most of this admiration is lost on me because I only know Microsoft Windows, as well as the relatively low IQ I have.
But I think it's critical that we, as a community, keep a perspective on the impact of Linux for the following reasons.
Linux is an open-source project; therefore, all changes are subject to review and approval by people. Companies that add features to the kernel, and then change to a different version will have to change the version, in much the same way as if you do something, you may actually do it.
Windows supporters still outnumber Linux supporters because I love pointy-clicky things. Windows NT Server Enterprise Edition has many fun things that I think come as standard because I never pay for them myself. I haven't a clue what comes with Linux, and I'm too lazy to find out, so I'll just make something up. Whereas Microsoft's products are buggy and barely usable, users may spend a significant amount of time trying to integrate these components under Linux, most of which I spent working out how to get the | symbol on this keyboard. The most critical of these integrations will be security and access control. I have no idea what this means, but it sounds impressive, yeah?
Linux is just beginning to be retrofitted for symmetric multiprocessing. Huh huh-huh...I said retrofitted! Without robust SMP, Linux servers can support only small companies and run a single application (honest!). If you're running NT you'll be required to manage multiple servers for increased downtime, and you're better off using an abacus.
Also, remember that Linux is still not Windows. One of the reasons for Windows' growth has been the complexity of obtaining a computer without it. Simply because a low-cost alternative is now available, it does not automatically generate more revenue for Microsoft.
Linux is a college student's project gone astray. There are pornographic pictures embedded in the kernel, and it drinks all your beer before throwing up on your brand new carpet. The version that will be supported by Sun Microsystems and IBM on its hardware will fall far short of each of these company's own Unix operating systems in marketing and hype. If you're responsible for operating system selection in your company, be wary of the Linux play. Hey, I'm all for a competitor to Windows, just make sure it's not a serious one.
JP Morgen-Thrall is president of NC.Focus, which provides strategic planning, analysis and psychic predictions of application integration technologies. He can be reached at jp@ncfocus.com.
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It's about people polluting the data you moron.
Remember you're talking to a person here. Many people are actually more intelligent than you.
They state this at the SETI site, and it takes about 3 seconds of any person to figure it out. They can't trust the clients and not giving out the source keeps people from screwing with the data and sending it back to them.
This is why the orignal person mentioned the "security through obscurity" thing. The point is it doesn't stop people screwing with the data. As everyone who knows anything about security knows, thinking that making things obscure is the same as making things secure is foolish.
See, and I didn't even call you a moron once :-)
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I have had the opprotunity to work with NASA engineers. I am not too easily intimidated intellectualy. These guys intimidated me with there intellegence.
Ah!....uhh...no, I can't...(but four!)...Oh, OK, just forget it :-)
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Maybe he just doesn't have the Linux spirit, I would have expected him to write something he likes
Umm...the Q3Test is out. Quake3 is due to be released shortly. Now, I've never worked in a commercial software house, but is this really the sort of time that the main programmers decide to start writing a new window manager? :-)
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I was amazed when I discovered how long a 2.2 was out before the first 2.3 became public. Shouldn't there be roughly 2-2 2.3 releases for each 2.2 release? Shouldn't there have been at least several 2.3 releases out before 2.2.0 went out?
Nope, the 2.1 series led up to 2.2, while 2.3 leads to 2.4. There were "at least several" (ahem!) releases in the 2.1 series.
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If the post was moderated *down* to 0, why does it say "Interesting"?
It was moderated to -1 and then back up to zero by someone who thought it was Interesting.
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If you do find it, please let us know. That sounds like a cool machine to have around...
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Is your GF from Microsoft?
No, that's GPF.
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Round up to 954,841 and THAT'S how many floppies it would take to hold that much data. Wonder how long it would take to split that? Any estimates? =)
Well, zipping a large file to disks here, without compression, takes a fairly regular 80 seconds per disk....so....
80 * 954,841 == 76,387,280 seconds == 21218.69 hours == 884.11 days == 2.42 years (roughly).
Not bad for a days work. :-)
Umm...(Score:2,Informative) ? (ahem!)
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KDE isn't a window manager. KWM is a window manager.
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The Amiga and OS/2 died of starvation because their bigots drove everyone else away. Don't do the same to Linux.
Hmm...I doubt it. The vast majority of users on any platform don't read or follow any particular newsgroup/forum/whatever. Slashdot, for instance, has, maybe, 60,000 readers? That's a tiny proportion of Linux users. We see the flames and all, but most people don't and choose their OS/platform/WM on merit or by what they're given by default...
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Not quite. Both GNOME and KDE are desktop environments, which, AFAIK, means that they control things like drag&drop and cut&paste and generally how applications talk to each other.
KDE comes with its own Window Manager called KWM, but you can use any WM you like. GNOME doesn't have one of its own and you can use any one you like. Obviously WMs which are GNOME or KDE aware are best for the respective environments.
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what is "f u kn rd ts, ur wy 2 gky 4 ur wn gd."
i am stupid, i realize that, but all i can make out is "fuck you ... ... ..., you are too geeky for your own good." please fill me in. i am irc deprived. 8( never been on it actually. by choice too.
Hmm...feel bad for reading "fuck you" in that sentence :-)
"If you can read this, you're way too geeky for your own good."
*sigh*
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Looks score 1 to me. If it was previously lower, I guess because it gave the joke away.
Anyway, I figured:
META NAME="GENERATOR" Content="Visual Page 2.0 for Windows - Trial Version"
...was unlikely for the real transmeta site...
:-)
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I can't _ever_ imagine using up 48MB.
Hide this quote somewhere on a long term system, and schedule it to pop up in 3 years time. :-)
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You need only one license until such time as a sufficiently determined legal team pokes a hole in the GPL that makes major portions of it unenforcable.
I've heard people suggest this, but haven't heard what they think the holes in the GPL are.
Anyway, so say I write some code, and release it under the GPL...
At that point, either the software becomes illegal to distribute
I see. So a court decides that it's illegal for me to say that people can freely copy my code? I'd like to see them explain the reasoning behind that! It's my code. I can give it away if I want.
or the copyleft becomes illegal to enforce
So a company can pick up my code and use it as they like without my permission? Presumably this hypothetical court feels like rewriting major parts of copyright law while the going is good...
I guess the point is that the GPL is just a way of applying copyright. It doesn't magically change it. So where are the major holes again?
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Also, it should be "he himself is", not "they themselves are", since "a fool" is singular.
Naw, you can use "they" now as a singular when you don't wanna specify gender.....it's true...honest...
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Don't demonize money. Money is just a physical representation of "effort." I do work and trade it for something.
Just to get totally off topic....an analogy: Don't demonize Windows95. It's just a representation of commands I wish to give to the computer.
The point isn't that labour for reward is bad (at least *my* point isn't), I just think the implementation (ie the money system) is bad.
By deomonizing money, you're deomonizing someone who is doing work.
Not any more than demonizing win95 is demonizing someone for using a computer. There is always the possiblity of using another [operating] system.
Not that /. is the appropriate place for this discussion, but if "irregardless" can spawn 20 replies when talking about SMP, then why not :-)
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At least 5 times I've tried opening a file in Word from a floppy disk with bad sectors (obviously I didn't know it at the time). NT 4 WorkStation, SP3. Result: BSOD.
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Penguins don't/can't run anywhere near 100mph.
Umm...of course they can't. What culture do you belong to that doesn't recognise that Linus post as humour? It's like the quote about Linus just being lazy and not caring about other people. Is this type of humour really that obscure? This isn't a flame, I'm really interested as I'm sure that humour does vary from place to place....I'm just not sure to what extent.
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