Poll respondents also agree that the U.S. health-care system needs improvement. Only 20 percent of those surveyed say the system is fine the way it is. Nonetheless, almost half of respondents said action could wait.
So 80% of people think healthcare has issues. And more then half feels something needs to be done about it now.
Of those surveyed, about half say the cost of doing nothing on health care will be greater than the price tag for the legislative overhaul.
About 50% of Americans say doing nothing is worse
Your entire premise rests on this one statement
Yet six of 10 also say individuals should be responsible for making sure their health-care needs are met.
Which is also in the same paragraph as this quote
While more than six of 10 respondents agree the government should play a role in ensuring Americans have health care, 53 percent say the plan amounts to a government-run system.
SO in conclusion,
Did it hurt when I bitch slapped you?
You complained about my reading comprehension in one of your earlier posts. I now find it necessary to call into question your reading comprehension, as you missed a good deal of that article. Either you missed entire paragraphs, or you intentionally cherry picked your numbers. I think you intentionally cherry picked your numbers. Glenn Beck called, he wanted to tell you dinner is on the stove so hurry home.
Yes, your right I missed that. Hmm, how about this, its a moot point. When I was 10 I planned on going to the moon, it never happened. Just cause there is legislation on the floor in 38 states, does not mean it will ever come close to passing in 38 states. You only need one crackpot to introduce legislation.
Keyboards have buffers,and not all keyboards are created equal.
Keyboards would have to be "standardized" to have the same speed in and out of the buffer, or they would have to have a registry somewhere saying this model keyboard should respond this quickly. and then they would have to test, each and every single model, and have this available to the program.
Next they have to take into fact, that there are different styles of keyboard. everything from the standard ps2 or usb, dovorak, to blue-tooth, to wireless, to flexible roll out, to hand held (Standrad phone text pattern, phones that have 2 letters per button, and phone qwerty keypads, and touch keypads.) What about other languages, shoot the American and British keyboard have differences if I'm not mistaken.
Then you have to determine how fast the computer can accept the input. This is wildly variable, I mean if I'm running 3 instances of folding at home (2 cpu 1 gpu) my computer might just "burp" with the input. This might be completely unnoticed by the actual people, but might be misinterpreted by the program, which flags you a paedo and sends a notice to the police. This will NEVER work unless EVERYTHING is standardized, or they sit you down and make you wear special gloves.
I assume all of our special gloves will be coming in the mail shortly.
You see you have to have ID to vote. You honestly think that large numbers of illegals actually find a way to vote? You also didnt answer ANY of my other arguments. Scare tatics and strawman attacks. If you cant answer my actual points, then your just making noise.
Democrats who have been the most successful at getting their votes
now you say
Even with a majority they had to do things that are an abuse of the rules.
Those two stances are hard to reconcile. For one, I never said they didn't abuse the rules. Next, it seems even if they did abuse the rules, they did pretty poorly at that too, they had a majority in both houses, and according to you they also broke rules.. if these two things are true, then the bill would have been passed months ago.
Hmm perhaps you don't realize that the birth certificate you can find damn near anywhere online, is a legal birth certificate for the state of Hawaii.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
You'll note how well snopes goes into this "conspiracy" For example, two different Hawaii newspapers printed a birth announcement for him. The whole birther thing, well its bull. I'm sorry.
Snopes sources should help you some.
Hinkelman, Michael. "Judge Rejects Montco Lawyer's Bid to Have Obama Removed from Ballot."
Philadelphia Daily News. 25 October 2008.
Koppelman, Alex. "Sex, Lies and Creatively Edited Interviews with Sarah Obama."
Salon. 5 December 2008.
Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's Certificate of Birth OK, State Says."
Honolulu Advertiser. 1 November 2008.
Nakaso, Dan. "Hawaii: Obama Birth Certificate Is Real."
Honolulu Advertiser. 27 July 2009.
Nakaso, Dan. "Hawaii officials confirm Obama's Original Birth Certificate Still Exists."
Honolulu Advertiser. 28 July 2009.
Voell, Paula. "Teacher from Kenmore Recalls Obama Was a Focused Student."
The Buffalo News. 20 January 2009.
Associated Press. "State Department of Health Declares Obama Birth Certificate Legal."
Honolulu Star-Bulletin. 31 October 2008.
Associated Press. "Challenge to Obama Is Dismissed."
The New York Times. 5 March 2009.
The Economist. "Born Under a Bad Sign."
28 November 2008.
I believe he was implying that the rhetoric coming from some tea party participants might lead to them shooting, not that they have already done so. Note the "ready to shoot" its not already shooting.
3) Poor people do not pay bill, because, well they are POOR (if its their fault for being poor is a moot point, nothing up to this point can you change)
4) Hospitals have to absorb the lost money
5) Hospitals have to be bailed out by... *drumroll*... Your right they are bailed out by taxpayers. Most hospitals are pretty consistantly getting help from taxpayers of one form or another
Heres the question: Would I rather pay for a poor person to go see a doctor, find out they have an infection, get a weeks worth of antibiotics and be out what 300 dollars? Or would I rather pay for the poor person to suffer until they cant bear it, call 911, ambulance ride, emergency room, iv antibiotics, and whatever else they need. Which do you think would be cheeper? (This logic would also include illegals, you pay their indignant care, right along with the poor people). I know it sucks, you got yours, you went to school got a good job, and can afford it. Now, stop and think for a second. If you had not gotten the opportunities you got, you might be in that poor persons shoes. Honestly, is sending poor people to the doctor that abhorrent to you?
Think about this too, if your poor and have to go to the hospital, and you cannot pay for whatever reason, it goes on your credit score. Now when you try to find a decent job, so you can pay back the bill, your screwed as almost all decent jobs check credit reports.
You guys get temp IDs? Every time I've had to get a drivers license (Georgia, Alaska, Nebraska) they printed them on the spot, instead of waiting a week, I waited an extra 5 min.
I don't like the credit bureaus having so much information on me. Its not something I can change. I choose friends I can trust, don't use facebook or other similar sites. I commonly fill out my address as "123 Yeah Right Blvd." and I have a phone number of 555-555-1234. I prefer to keep my information, esp info that can be used to steal my id, as private as possible, the less I write it down, the less I speak it over the phone, the less I send it over the Internet, the fewer people who see it. I might not be able to completely hide it from everyone, but Id like to keep the people who do have this info to a minimum. The only security for personal info we have in todays world is security by obscurity. I would appreciate it if people stopped trying to remove my only form of protection from the ne're do wells.
That would be because they have a majority in both houses. But IMHO they actually haven't been that successful, If im not mistaken they originally hoped health-care would be done what middle of last year? If you cant even mobilize your own majority, your not doing it right.
So if I own a business, I get my human rights, and I get to exercise the human rights of my corporation. That means I have VASTLY more rights then I normally would. Now lets say I'm an Arab oil shiek, and I own a company in the US. I now have the right to funnel all of my money to change the policy in the US. You want that? Honestly? If thats your position, then obviously you have issues, and I question your ability to comprehend what the repercussions of giving human rights to corporations are. They do call them human rights for a reason anyways.
Thats why I refuse to use toll roads, unless its going to save me more than an hour or two. Ill also avoid them like the plague, if travelling them the distance costs more then a few dollars, I remember one toll road I took in colorado, that costed me like 15 dollars to go like 100 miles or something stupid.
You can actually also blame the 1.3 trillion 01 tax cut and the 1.5 trillion 03 tax cut, along with the general belief that deficits dont matter. (If I remember correctly that was said by dick cheney quoting regan in 04)
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"About 50% of Americans say doing nothing is worse. Your entire premise rests on this next statement:" Mea culpa
Poll respondents also agree that the U.S. health-care system needs improvement. Only 20 percent of those surveyed say the system is fine the way it is. Nonetheless, almost half of respondents said action could wait.
So 80% of people think healthcare has issues. And more then half feels something needs to be done about it now.
Of those surveyed, about half say the cost of doing nothing on health care will be greater than the price tag for the legislative overhaul.
About 50% of Americans say doing nothing is worse Your entire premise rests on this one statement
Yet six of 10 also say individuals should be responsible for making sure their health-care needs are met.
Which is also in the same paragraph as this quote
While more than six of 10 respondents agree the government should play a role in ensuring Americans have health care, 53 percent say the plan amounts to a government-run system.
SO in conclusion, Did it hurt when I bitch slapped you? You complained about my reading comprehension in one of your earlier posts. I now find it necessary to call into question your reading comprehension, as you missed a good deal of that article. Either you missed entire paragraphs, or you intentionally cherry picked your numbers. I think you intentionally cherry picked your numbers. Glenn Beck called, he wanted to tell you dinner is on the stove so hurry home.
Yes, your right I missed that. Hmm, how about this, its a moot point. When I was 10 I planned on going to the moon, it never happened. Just cause there is legislation on the floor in 38 states, does not mean it will ever come close to passing in 38 states. You only need one crackpot to introduce legislation.
Keyboards have buffers,and not all keyboards are created equal.
Keyboards would have to be "standardized" to have the same speed in and out of the buffer, or they would have to have a registry somewhere saying this model keyboard should respond this quickly. and then they would have to test, each and every single model, and have this available to the program.
Next they have to take into fact, that there are different styles of keyboard. everything from the standard ps2 or usb, dovorak, to blue-tooth, to wireless, to flexible roll out, to hand held (Standrad phone text pattern, phones that have 2 letters per button, and phone qwerty keypads, and touch keypads.) What about other languages, shoot the American and British keyboard have differences if I'm not mistaken.
Then you have to determine how fast the computer can accept the input. This is wildly variable, I mean if I'm running 3 instances of folding at home (2 cpu 1 gpu) my computer might just "burp" with the input. This might be completely unnoticed by the actual people, but might be misinterpreted by the program, which flags you a paedo and sends a notice to the police. This will NEVER work unless EVERYTHING is standardized, or they sit you down and make you wear special gloves.
I assume all of our special gloves will be coming in the mail shortly.
You see you have to have ID to vote. You honestly think that large numbers of illegals actually find a way to vote? You also didnt answer ANY of my other arguments. Scare tatics and strawman attacks. If you cant answer my actual points, then your just making noise.
I provided sources, quit using strawmen. If you cant refute my evidence, my sources, then your just making noise.
Another 4 have decided to sue, so its 14. Still much less then 38. http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/23/health.care.lawsuit/index.html?hpt=T1
Significant number? I believe in the senate there was what 5 - 10 (democrats) who refused to vote for it?
Express wishes of their constituents? http://www.gallup.com/poll/126929/Slim-Margin-Americans-Support-Healthcare-Bill-Passage.aspx
Ohh and illegal immigrant vote? Umm Im pretty certain illegal immigrants CANT VOTE
Democrats who have been the most successful at getting their votes
now you say
Even with a majority they had to do things that are an abuse of the rules.
Those two stances are hard to reconcile. For one, I never said they didn't abuse the rules. Next, it seems even if they did abuse the rules, they did pretty poorly at that too, they had a majority in both houses, and according to you they also broke rules.. if these two things are true, then the bill would have been passed months ago.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp You'll note how well snopes goes into this "conspiracy" For example, two different Hawaii newspapers printed a birth announcement for him. The whole birther thing, well its bull. I'm sorry.
Snopes sources should help you some.
Hinkelman, Michael. "Judge Rejects Montco Lawyer's Bid to Have Obama Removed from Ballot." Philadelphia Daily News. 25 October 2008.
Koppelman, Alex. "Sex, Lies and Creatively Edited Interviews with Sarah Obama." Salon. 5 December 2008.
Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's Certificate of Birth OK, State Says." Honolulu Advertiser. 1 November 2008.
Nakaso, Dan. "Hawaii: Obama Birth Certificate Is Real." Honolulu Advertiser. 27 July 2009.
Nakaso, Dan. "Hawaii officials confirm Obama's Original Birth Certificate Still Exists." Honolulu Advertiser. 28 July 2009.
Voell, Paula. "Teacher from Kenmore Recalls Obama Was a Focused Student." The Buffalo News. 20 January 2009.
Associated Press. "State Department of Health Declares Obama Birth Certificate Legal." Honolulu Star-Bulletin. 31 October 2008.
Associated Press. "Challenge to Obama Is Dismissed." The New York Times. 5 March 2009.
The Economist. "Born Under a Bad Sign." 28 November 2008.
I believe he was implying that the rhetoric coming from some tea party participants might lead to them shooting, not that they have already done so. Note the "ready to shoot" its not already shooting.
Your full of shit, according to the news Ive read today 10 states are considering suing. http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/22/health.care.lawsuit/index.html
Please take your blatant falsehoods and go away.
Alright follow along with me here
1) Hospitals can turn no one away
2) Poor people when sick enough, go to hospitals
3) Poor people do not pay bill, because, well they are POOR (if its their fault for being poor is a moot point, nothing up to this point can you change)
4) Hospitals have to absorb the lost money
5) Hospitals have to be bailed out by... *drumroll*... Your right they are bailed out by taxpayers. Most hospitals are pretty consistantly getting help from taxpayers of one form or another
Heres the question: Would I rather pay for a poor person to go see a doctor, find out they have an infection, get a weeks worth of antibiotics and be out what 300 dollars? Or would I rather pay for the poor person to suffer until they cant bear it, call 911, ambulance ride, emergency room, iv antibiotics, and whatever else they need. Which do you think would be cheeper? (This logic would also include illegals, you pay their indignant care, right along with the poor people). I know it sucks, you got yours, you went to school got a good job, and can afford it. Now, stop and think for a second. If you had not gotten the opportunities you got, you might be in that poor persons shoes. Honestly, is sending poor people to the doctor that abhorrent to you?
Think about this too, if your poor and have to go to the hospital, and you cannot pay for whatever reason, it goes on your credit score. Now when you try to find a decent job, so you can pay back the bill, your screwed as almost all decent jobs check credit reports.
You guys get temp IDs? Every time I've had to get a drivers license (Georgia, Alaska, Nebraska) they printed them on the spot, instead of waiting a week, I waited an extra 5 min.
I don't like the credit bureaus having so much information on me. Its not something I can change. I choose friends I can trust, don't use facebook or other similar sites. I commonly fill out my address as "123 Yeah Right Blvd." and I have a phone number of 555-555-1234. I prefer to keep my information, esp info that can be used to steal my id, as private as possible, the less I write it down, the less I speak it over the phone, the less I send it over the Internet, the fewer people who see it. I might not be able to completely hide it from everyone, but Id like to keep the people who do have this info to a minimum. The only security for personal info we have in todays world is security by obscurity. I would appreciate it if people stopped trying to remove my only form of protection from the ne're do wells.
If you don't travel outside the country, you don't need a passport.
That would be because they have a majority in both houses. But IMHO they actually haven't been that successful, If im not mistaken they originally hoped health-care would be done what middle of last year? If you cant even mobilize your own majority, your not doing it right.
Buying enough stock in microsoft that you can force millions of users to use your design changes : Priceless
So if I own a business, I get my human rights, and I get to exercise the human rights of my corporation. That means I have VASTLY more rights then I normally would. Now lets say I'm an Arab oil shiek, and I own a company in the US. I now have the right to funnel all of my money to change the policy in the US. You want that? Honestly? If thats your position, then obviously you have issues, and I question your ability to comprehend what the repercussions of giving human rights to corporations are. They do call them human rights for a reason anyways.
That argument makes no sense. They have the human rights that everyone has. Why should they get extra human rights?
FIne lets take "human rights" away from corporations thou.
Its presumptuous to think she wasn't doing that on purpose.
Thats why I refuse to use toll roads, unless its going to save me more than an hour or two. Ill also avoid them like the plague, if travelling them the distance costs more then a few dollars, I remember one toll road I took in colorado, that costed me like 15 dollars to go like 100 miles or something stupid.
Im sorry, I understand the feelings. I just always send these people to stuff like snopes.com
You can actually also blame the 1.3 trillion 01 tax cut and the 1.5 trillion 03 tax cut, along with the general belief that deficits dont matter. (If I remember correctly that was said by dick cheney quoting regan in 04)