If you really want to be offended, go look up how Ma Bell got her greedy mitts on touch-tone technology - short version, they held an entire city for ransom.
Facebook is nothing but an ad-funded spy network. It gathers information about billions of people. If there is any good to come from that colossal invasion of privacy, it would be preventative care.
Um... doesn't the first sentence preclude the possibility of the last?
People who make/made money off of [working for a company] should consider themselves lucky for the money they got, and get themselves a real job. It's not [the company's] fault that some really, truly, profoundly stupid people thought they were somehow *entitled* to be paid money for [laboring to provide the company with profitable material]
FTFY.
Try that attitude with any other labor-for-pay scenario and see how long it takes to get sued.
I'll try some other form of words next time, but if you really want to have a serious debate about this then you have to assume good faith and look at the point being made.
Yea. It's everyone else's fault for not understanding you.
Nothing to do with you Godwinning the conversation. Nope.
The YouTube film producers are no different from other artists . . . you create a painting . . . hang it in a gallery . . . and then someone buys it . . . or they don't.
Spoken like a true non-artist.
Ever heard of Graphic Designers? Most of the ones I know are on payroll, bud. Not everybody is a freelance chump (and even if they are, that's no excuse to abuse them).
I may have used the wrong words. It is not a government organization, it is not a public space... it is private property... you do not have the right of free speech. There are a few non-discriminatory laws that you must abide by, but other than that YouTube has no obligation to be open to anyone saying anything.
It's a "place of public accommodation," which means it has to honor your civil liberties.
Do you need a license to be free from unlawful search and seizure? Both the 2nd and 4th contain the phrase, "the right of the people" in identical context, but no one ever argues that there isn't an individual right to be free from unlawful search...
You need a license to drive a car. You need to show that you know the rules to abide by when driving, and that you have sufficient skill and knowledge to minimize the danger you pose to others when driving. This, US citizens are fine with.
But needing to show that you know the laws pertaining to gun ownership, that you understand gun safety both in usage and in storage before being allowed to own a gun, that they balk at. It boggles the mind.
It doesn't if you bother to understand the language used.
Nowhere does the Constitution state "the right of the people to own and drive automobiles shall not be infringed."
Conversely, there are a number of places where that documents states that other "rights of the people" can't be taken away - one of those rights is the right to personal armament.
So unless you're arguing that the phrase "the right of the people" does not imply an individual right (like in the case of the 4th Amendment), you have no legitimate basis for your stance.
We're not talking about college, we're talking about kids.
Oh, right, duh. Guess I got off on a tangent. Basically ignore my last response.
For what it's worth, I think lectures should be videos views at home, and class should be used for discussions and helping children
On the one hand, I think that's a much better method of education than the antiquated classroom system currently in use; on the other, I fear that may only serve to further blur the line between "work life" and "home life," and personally I woudn't want to be the one to risk ruining a childhood by making it school-time, all the time.
And cellphones should be banned. But that's harder, and I'm not sure all the teachers we have are up to it.
Especially considering that more and more teachers are members of the "can't do anything without a cell phone in my hand" generation... "do as I say, not as I do" is a piss-poor way to express authority.
no, only kidding. I had to look up who CenturyLink are - a US internet/telecoms service provider. How did the US telecoms industry evolve into the embodiment of most of the points on the Hare Psychopathy Checklist?
They didn't; telcos have always operated this way, starting way back when Ma Bell still had a monopoly.
There's more to being educated than rote memorization and repetition.
Sure, I totally agree. But I don't know how that's address by "lecture on things not in the book" and "ha, you did poorly on your test because you weren't paying attention."
Are the "lecture" portions of class now just straight lectures? When I was in college (which, granted, was over a decade ago) we often used "lecture" time for relevant discussions, and the instructors would regularly use these discussions to create quiz material. The time was also used to pose critical thinking questions to the class, which you would never get from memorizing facts in a book.
I have a pretty high expectation of participation.
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This is an easy bicycling distance
says the asshole AC who doesn't bike 20 miles a day in traffic...
Mebbe stop trolling and RTFA?
The website, wanker. Don't be obtuse.
If you really want to be offended, go look up how Ma Bell got her greedy mitts on touch-tone technology - short version, they held an entire city for ransom.
Facebook is nothing but an ad-funded spy network. It gathers information about billions of people. If there is any good to come from that colossal invasion of privacy, it would be preventative care.
Um... doesn't the first sentence preclude the possibility of the last?
The definition of a useful idiot, in fact!
And the irony is that this was done by an SJW type and not a "gun nut".
It's not really all that ironic if you've been paying attention to SJW culture the last couple years. Those fuckers are violent.
Calling the cops is no answer . . . they are not able to legally do anything, and are not trained mental health professionals.
I take it you've never heard the term 72-hour hold
People who make/made money off of [working for a company] should consider themselves lucky for the money they got, and get themselves a real job. It's not [the company's] fault that some really, truly, profoundly stupid people thought they were somehow *entitled* to be paid money for [laboring to provide the company with profitable material]
FTFY.
Try that attitude with any other labor-for-pay scenario and see how long it takes to get sued.
I'll try some other form of words next time, but if you really want to have a serious debate about this then you have to assume good faith and look at the point being made.
Yea. It's everyone else's fault for not understanding you.
Nothing to do with you Godwinning the conversation. Nope.
The YouTube film producers are no different from other artists . . . you create a painting . . . hang it in a gallery . . . and then someone buys it . . . or they don't.
Spoken like a true non-artist.
Ever heard of Graphic Designers? Most of the ones I know are on payroll, bud. Not everybody is a freelance chump (and even if they are, that's no excuse to abuse them).
And every day I feel reassured that moving to Japan 20 years ago was the best thing I ever did. I only have to worry about earthquakes.
... and one of the highest suicide rates on the planet.
Pobody's Nerfect.
The term you're looking for is Place of Public Accommodation
I may have used the wrong words. It is not a government organization, it is not a public space ... it is private property... you do not have the right of free speech. There are a few non-discriminatory laws that you must abide by, but other than that YouTube has no obligation to be open to anyone saying anything.
It's a "place of public accommodation," which means it has to honor your civil liberties.
Same shit they pull to ban smoking in bars.
Do you need a license to be free from unlawful search and seizure? Both the 2nd and 4th contain the phrase, "the right of the people" in identical context, but no one ever argues that there isn't an individual right to be free from unlawful search...
You need a license to drive a car. You need to show that you know the rules to abide by when driving, and that you have sufficient skill and knowledge to minimize the danger you pose to others when driving. This, US citizens are fine with.
But needing to show that you know the laws pertaining to gun ownership, that you understand gun safety both in usage and in storage before being allowed to own a gun, that they balk at. It boggles the mind.
It doesn't if you bother to understand the language used.
Nowhere does the Constitution state "the right of the people to own and drive automobiles shall not be infringed."
Conversely, there are a number of places where that documents states that other "rights of the people" can't be taken away - one of those rights is the right to personal armament.
So unless you're arguing that the phrase "the right of the people" does not imply an individual right (like in the case of the 4th Amendment), you have no legitimate basis for your stance.
I stand corrected. I didn't take that into consideration, but that wasn't really the point either
Never is, with you anti-civil-liberties types. All you care about is your agenda, facts and reality be damned.
We're not talking about college, we're talking about kids.
Oh, right, duh. Guess I got off on a tangent. Basically ignore my last response.
For what it's worth, I think lectures should be videos views at home, and class should be used for discussions and helping children
On the one hand, I think that's a much better method of education than the antiquated classroom system currently in use; on the other, I fear that may only serve to further blur the line between "work life" and "home life," and personally I woudn't want to be the one to risk ruining a childhood by making it school-time, all the time.
And cellphones should be banned. But that's harder, and I'm not sure all the teachers we have are up to it.
Especially considering that more and more teachers are members of the "can't do anything without a cell phone in my hand" generation... "do as I say, not as I do" is a piss-poor way to express authority.
I voted third party - things got worse, but I had nothing to do with it, so I sleep better at night.
Capitalism. And a government that has been bought and paid for by those big ass corporations.
You realize that those two things are diametrically opposed?
If he had said "and a government that doesn't let corporations pay for influence," yes, they would be.
You've just given me an idea! >:D
no, only kidding. I had to look up who CenturyLink are - a US internet/telecoms service provider. How did the US telecoms industry evolve into the embodiment of most of the points on the Hare Psychopathy Checklist?
They didn't; telcos have always operated this way, starting way back when Ma Bell still had a monopoly.
Sure, I totally agree. But I don't know how that's address by "lecture on things not in the book" and "ha, you did poorly on your test because you weren't paying attention."
Are the "lecture" portions of class now just straight lectures? When I was in college (which, granted, was over a decade ago) we often used "lecture" time for relevant discussions, and the instructors would regularly use these discussions to create quiz material. The time was also used to pose critical thinking questions to the class, which you would never get from memorizing facts in a book.
I have a pretty high expectation of participation.
Illegal gun traffic goes the other way - from the US to Mexico. Which makes sense - the guns are made in the US, not Mexico.
Do any of the guns make their way back?
The answer, BTW, is "yes, yes they do, and sometimes those 'walked back' guns are used to kill American citizens."
My point was that the US government does not have authority to ban guns in Mexico.
Because their hoodlums go out of state to but weapons?
People who whine about "guns from out of state" obviously don't understand the concept of scale.
Say all guns get banned in every state; criminals will still get guns, because Mexico exists.
Then the whiners will piss and moan about "guns from out of country," but our government has no jurisdiction there. Q.E.D.