Because they are simply going to have the dealer in your area drive it out to your house.
Then I wouldn't pay new car pricing on it, because the second someone else drives it off the lot it's not a new car anymore.
Side note: Next time you look at buying a car from a dealer, make sure to point out how the value drops by 1/3 the second you sign paperwork. They fucking hate that:)
Can I pay them an extra $1000 and buy directly from amazon? Why get a dealer involved?
(Not that I'm interested in a Nissan Versa. But my point is the same. Car dealers are the scum of the Earth.)
So long as I can still test drive and physically inspect the thing prior to handing over the cash, I'd be all for it. $1000 is a pretty cheap price to pay to not have to deal with dealership financiers.
You think salesmen are dicks, wait until you try to buy a car with your own financing, from a place that 'offers' it in-house... and by 'offers,' I mean 'will lie through their fucking teeth to convince you to finance it through them, up-to-and-including refusing sale of the vehicle.' I know, I dealt with this shit not 4 months ago when I got my truck.
Every time I saw that ad, I thought to myself, "Nope, I'd totally download a car. Why wouldn't you?"
Masochism.
Seriously, it seems evident that whoever came up with that idiotic bumper sticker has never actually bought a car, if they can't understand why anyone would want to avoid the process.
Fair enough; I can understand the viewpoint of the funders (we want games that don't suck), but I'm hard pressed to believe that the dev's rationale is as altruistic as some people seem to want to think. He's in it for personal gain, just like any other capitalist.
Publishers have single handledly:
-Dumbed down games -Stopped making many genre's that used to exist in the past
The first one is a given, but I'm curious about the second: what genres have ceased to exist? I'd like to see more TBS/RTS games like the Total War series, but that's not to say that there aren't any such games being made (although I can't name any off the top of my head).
Bullshit - you want 'creative control' over your project, you pay for it your own goddamn self; for reference, see: every independent artist ever, prior to the creation of websites like Kickstarter.
He never acted as if it was outrageous that investors want something for their money, that's an interesting bit of fantasy on your part.
Fantasy? That's a direct quote from TFS: "Even nice investors, they want a return at some point." Sure sounds like bitching to me. WTF do you mean, "nice investors?" Are you saying that investors who actually expect a gain from their investment in you are dicks or something?
That's the sort of attitude a selfish twat would have.
Pretty sure touchscreen support was added to XP in 2003, though I do understand and agree to the point that the touchscreens on the market in those days sucked massive donkey shlong.
I dont think you understand how POS a POS system is.
Sure I do - I used to build Quicken-branded, XP-based abominations for a living; "Why the fuck do they ship an LCD display that isn't compatible with the other hardware??? Yer killin' me, Smalls!"
Most have utterly crappy touchscreens that do not support "gestures" only a single "tap event"
Almost 90% of all the Point of sale hardware out there are steaming piles of Fecies in quality, but cost 20X the price of regular hardware.
Agreed, but that doesn't change the fact that Windows-based touchscreen systems have had tap-and-hold-to-right-click since, like, 2003.
Since we're talking about Windows/MS stuff here, it would be kind of assanine to assume OP was talking about a non-Windows POS.
"Even nice investors, they want a return at some point. They have a slightly diff agenda than I do," Roberts told Slashdot.
Translation: WHAT??? You mean those people who gave me the funding for this project actually want something out of it??? Well, fuck that, I'll just go beg from the community in a way that ensures I don't have to give them dick in return for their hard-earned dollars!"
Dude had the funding, but he didn't want to share his profits with the people that were giving him money. Ergo, excessive greed.
Precisely. This is why third parties seldom fare well; the general attitude of American voters is, "But if I don't vote for Party A's candidate, Party B's candidate will get in, and we can't have that!"
Take some fucking responsibility for your own actions.
Exactly what I'm saying, but about a different party, obviously.
Yes, the idiots ignoring good sense and driving onto a runway should take responsibility for their own idiocy.*
Just the same, Apple needs to take responsibility for releasing a broken product. Saying "oh, but we're fixing it" doesn't change the fact they released a broken product to begin with.
If you went and bought a Focus, and the wheel fell off because of an engineering "bug," wouldn't you hold Ford at least somewhat responsible?
And it's Apple's fault that this route is open to drivers?
Apple's data comes from third parties - a lot of it is aggregated by the likes of TomTom etc, from local authorities.
Remember the bullshit about people getting lost in Victoria (australia) looking for a town called Mildura?
The local mapping data had two locations for Mildura - one in the middle of a forrest, one where the town is. Any idiot that follows a navigation app's directions off a highway onto either a dirt track through a forrest or onto a fucking runway, deserves it.
They are assistants, not foolproof deities.
Yea, rabble rabble! How dare people expect a company to QA their own products!
I likely won't close the account. Most likely I'll just stop using it just like I've stopped going to several forums I used to frequent due to the number of crazy posts and responses.
[John]
That's pretty much the route I've taken - leave the account open, check it about once a month for messages, and never, ever put another piece of content or information on there for them to sell.
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Because they are simply going to have the dealer in your area drive it out to your house.
Then I wouldn't pay new car pricing on it, because the second someone else drives it off the lot it's not a new car anymore.
Side note: Next time you look at buying a car from a dealer, make sure to point out how the value drops by 1/3 the second you sign paperwork. They fucking hate that :)
Can I pay them an extra $1000 and buy directly from amazon? Why get a dealer involved?
(Not that I'm interested in a Nissan Versa. But my point is the same. Car dealers are the scum of the Earth.)
So long as I can still test drive and physically inspect the thing prior to handing over the cash, I'd be all for it. $1000 is a pretty cheap price to pay to not have to deal with dealership financiers.
You think salesmen are dicks, wait until you try to buy a car with your own financing, from a place that 'offers' it in-house... and by 'offers,' I mean 'will lie through their fucking teeth to convince you to finance it through them, up-to-and-including refusing sale of the vehicle.' I know, I dealt with this shit not 4 months ago when I got my truck.
... You're a car salesman, aren't you?
Every time I saw that ad, I thought to myself, "Nope, I'd totally download a car. Why wouldn't you?"
Masochism.
Seriously, it seems evident that whoever came up with that idiotic bumper sticker has never actually bought a car, if they can't understand why anyone would want to avoid the process.
What if Ford bought the lug nuts from a third party? Ha.
I was thinking more along the line of whatever it is that MICROS uses.
Side note: Googling BeOS - now there's a nice trip down memory lane.
Fair enough; I can understand the viewpoint of the funders (we want games that don't suck), but I'm hard pressed to believe that the dev's rationale is as altruistic as some people seem to want to think. He's in it for personal gain, just like any other capitalist.
Publishers have single handledly:
-Dumbed down games
-Stopped making many genre's that used to exist in the past
The first one is a given, but I'm curious about the second: what genres have ceased to exist? I'd like to see more TBS/RTS games like the Total War series, but that's not to say that there aren't any such games being made (although I can't name any off the top of my head).
Ergo, creative control.
Bullshit - you want 'creative control' over your project, you pay for it your own goddamn self; for reference, see: every independent artist ever, prior to the creation of websites like Kickstarter.
He never acted as if it was outrageous that investors want something for their money, that's an interesting bit of fantasy on your part.
Fantasy? That's a direct quote from TFS: "Even nice investors, they want a return at some point." Sure sounds like bitching to me. WTF do you mean, "nice investors?" Are you saying that investors who actually expect a gain from their investment in you are dicks or something?
That's the sort of attitude a selfish twat would have.
Pretty sure touchscreen support was added to XP in 2003, though I do understand and agree to the point that the touchscreens on the market in those days sucked massive donkey shlong.
I dont think you understand how POS a POS system is.
Sure I do - I used to build Quicken-branded, XP-based abominations for a living; "Why the fuck do they ship an LCD display that isn't compatible with the other hardware??? Yer killin' me, Smalls!"
Most have utterly crappy touchscreens that do not support "gestures" only a single "tap event"
Almost 90% of all the Point of sale hardware out there are steaming piles of Fecies in quality, but cost 20X the price of regular hardware.
Agreed, but that doesn't change the fact that Windows-based touchscreen systems have had tap-and-hold-to-right-click since, like, 2003.
Since we're talking about Windows/MS stuff here, it would be kind of assanine to assume OP was talking about a non-Windows POS.
OK:
Translation: WHAT??? You mean those people who gave me the funding for this project actually want something out of it??? Well, fuck that, I'll just go beg from the community in a way that ensures I don't have to give them dick in return for their hard-earned dollars!"
Dude had the funding, but he didn't want to share his profits with the people that were giving him money. Ergo, excessive greed.
Touch screens have no easy way to right-click so I tend to use that one a lot.
If they're Windows-based systems, that's patently untrue.
From http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/using-touch-gestures :
Also applies to XP and 8.
I actually use that one quite often since I work in the POS industry
I presume most of your work involves non-Windows based systems? God, I hope so.
Yea, the lie was claiming he was going to do things differently than his predecessor.
Fucking fascists, you just can't trust 'em.
No, the problem with democracy is that we are all obsessing over ensuring that the wrong lizards don't get in.
Precisely. This is why third parties seldom fare well; the general attitude of American voters is, "But if I don't vote for Party A's candidate, Party B's candidate will get in, and we can't have that!"
It's quite possible they do understand the physics
Or, their lawyers advised them that it's legal in some really devious way because they didn't actually look at what was stolen until the "legal" time.
Or, they're an organization such as Goldman Sachs, and know that they're above the law.
The executive branch is ultimately responsible for what the Fed does, including investigating and stopping fraud at the fed.
Great! Now all we have to do is find out who committed this egregious crime, and the head of the Justice Department will prosecute, right?
Eric Holder
Attorney General of the United States
Aw, fuck. *sigh* nevermind...
Presumably the car would realise it shouldn't go through a fucking gate without confirmation?
Presumably there's no way to actually know until such a situation is encountered.
Also, that doesn't answer my question (in fact you completely ignored it).
Jesus, but you're one angry dude.
Calm down, man - someone on the internet disagreeing with you is not a good reason to give yourself a coronary.
Forgot to address my own *:
If/when cars are autonomous, who takes responsibility when a "bug" causes cars to drive themselves into life-threatening situations?
Take some fucking responsibility for your own actions.
Exactly what I'm saying, but about a different party, obviously.
Yes, the idiots ignoring good sense and driving onto a runway should take responsibility for their own idiocy.*
Just the same, Apple needs to take responsibility for releasing a broken product. Saying "oh, but we're fixing it" doesn't change the fact they released a broken product to begin with.
If you went and bought a Focus, and the wheel fell off because of an engineering "bug," wouldn't you hold Ford at least somewhat responsible?
And it's Apple's fault that this route is open to drivers?
Apple's data comes from third parties - a lot of it is aggregated by the likes of TomTom etc, from local authorities.
Remember the bullshit about people getting lost in Victoria (australia) looking for a town called Mildura?
The local mapping data had two locations for Mildura - one in the middle of a forrest, one where the town is. Any idiot that follows a navigation app's directions off a highway onto either a dirt track through a forrest or onto a fucking runway, deserves it.
They are assistants, not foolproof deities.
Yea, rabble rabble! How dare people expect a company to QA their own products!
Also, what kind of moron actually drives through an airport just because their eyePhone tells them to?
The kind who thinks this sort of thing could never ever ever happen with an autonomous car.
Judging from the AC post below, I think you have your answer: deflect, deflect, deflect.
Nevermind the fact that Obama lied to the nation, repeatedly, about the extent of NSA spying.
Nevermind the fact he's still, still pushing for a war with Syria, despite the opposition of pretty much every single American citizen.
Nevermind the fact that Obama claimed to want the "most transparent adminstration in history," he's prosecuted more whistleblowers than even Bush did.
Obama makes Bush look like a regular champion of civil liberties.
I likely won't close the account. Most likely I'll just stop using it just like I've stopped going to several forums I used to frequent due to the number of crazy posts and responses.
[John]
That's pretty much the route I've taken - leave the account open, check it about once a month for messages, and never, ever put another piece of content or information on there for them to sell.
Crunchbang works fine with out the commandline.
Really? How do you get anything done??
Unless something's changed in the last couple months, installing Netflix on #! is impossible without the command line.