And 2 packs of cigarettes, that like $8 right there.
In Florida??? Try more like $18.
I don't know exactly what they cost nowadays (haven't bought a pack in almost 3 years! Go me!), but last time I overheard someone buying them I think it was almost $5 a pack.
And that's rural Ozark Plateau pricing; $deity (and people who live there) knows what they charge on the coasts.
Mind if I bring some tanks of Algae and a sunlamp with me?
With out CO2, we would all be dead... starting with the plants.
Only if the amount of algae is less than what would be required for homeostasis. After all, we're trying to simulate what would happen with an overabundance of CO2.
What is the $100/month you talk about? Is that (optional) battery replacement insurance?
Yea, guess so... probably should have read the article and not just the snippet Google shows, huh?
Here's how it works. At any time, like when the warranty is about to end – so, at 4 years, 11 months or 59,999 miles – or even after the warranty ends, a Nissan Leaf owner can sign up for the battery replacement program. At that point, you start paying $100 a month (or whatever the final cost will be) and immediately get a new battery pack that has a full 12 bars of capacity.
That's actually not a terrible deal, especially considering what some of those aftermarket warranties for petrol automobiles cost.
So for me, it's closer to $20K (not including sales tax).
Better, but it would still be impractical for my needs. I would get more use and value out of a motorcycle.
YMMV, of course, and the pun is most definitely intended.
Because fucking with people is one of my hobbies. Just messing with their heads, mind you - nothing violent or hateful; I'm out for a laugh, not to cause harm.
Does it really bother you that others live differently?
Not in the slightest, although it obviously bothers you, considering this response of yours. Why does it bother you so much that someone you don't know messes with other people you don't know, in ways you don't know? Ever consider perhaps trying to understand the situation at hand, instead of tossing about accusations based on the tiny bit of knowledge you have on this particular topic?
I doubt you'd mess with them if they retaliated, right?
Um... yea. Yea, I totally still would. Besides, it's kind of against their religion to retaliate (which I totally respect), and worse come to worse I can always sick them on one of the dozens of teenagers in Cradle of Filth t-shirts who frequent the area. Not much cracks me up like a dude in linen clothes and a wicked beard running down the sidewalk, waving a pamphlet and yelling, "Sir! Sir!" after the kid with "Jesus was a Cunt" on the back of his shirt.
So you're bullying someone because you know they are peaceful and won't pose a threat to you.
I wouldn't call it 'bullying,' especially considering how over-used that term has become in recent years. 'Having a chuckle at the expense of,' perhaps, but if that's bullying then pretty much every comic ever born is a bully, and I don't believe that shit for one second. At least I have the decency to do it in front of people's faces, instead of sniggering behind their backs.
Interesting bit of irony: I'm willing to bet you wouldn't be half as ready to bully me like you're trying to with this post (passive-aggressive is a form of bullying, you know) if we were standing face-to-face, Internet Tough Guy, for fear of retaliation.
That makes you the bad guy.
Another oft-overused term. A jerk, probably, but 'bad guy?' It's not like I'm jacking their shit or raping their woman, man - calm down.
That statement does not apply to Americans. Just stop paying your property taxes and you'll find out what I mean.
Americans? How many places in the world don't have property taxes?
I don't know - I don't live in those places, and thus cannot speak for their taxation practices. I do, however, know that if you "own" a home in America, and stop paying your property taxes, the government will confiscate and auction "your" home.
If you're expecting qualified expertise on global taxation, you're talkin' to the wrong dude.
I suspect that by 'haven't found a good reference yu mean haven't found a good reference that supports my bias.
I mean "good reference" as in somewhere that provides information about GM's Computer Command Control system. As for 'supporting my bias,' I've owned 3 CCC cars in my day, and worked on countless others; I don't need any more confirmation of the fact that the system is an an abomination.
I'n going to ignore the rest of your post, since I prefer to not respond to childish, personal attacks.
I could live with the low range if the darn thing could be 'filled' from empty in the same amount of time it takes to fill my diesel (which, incidentally, has more than double the range of an S, and rarely dips below 40 MPG).
If I'm not mistaken, the fastest charging method for a Tesla is using one of the Superchargers (assuming they're available in your area - the nearest one to me is more than 1200 miles away), which still takes at least an hour to get an 80% charge... and that's assuming no lines at the "pump."
An hour waiting is bad enough, but if there's 2 people in front of me... that's 3 hours before I can get back on the road. Fuck that shit, I gots places to be.
You can swap batteries in half the time it takes to fill a car with gasoline. Standard for all Model S. You're welcome. http://vimeo.com/68832891
Yea, you can leave the video links out, I don't bother with them.
Anyway, I have a few questions: What do they do with the batteries they swap out? Do they go straight to the landfill, or are they recharged and swapped into someone else's Tesla? Assuming the latter, if they swap a bad pack out of someone else's car and stick it in mine, what's my legal recourse when there's an issue? Also, how would such a proprietary system benefit the adoption of EVs in general? Seems to me Tesla may be trying to set themselves up a monopoly.
"Tesla designed its Model S to allow fast battery swapping (...) At an event at Tesla's Hawthorne Design Studio, CEO Elon Musk demonstrated a battery swap operation with the Model S, which took just over 90 seconds for the car participating in the demo. By contrast it took nearly four minutes to refill a gasoline-powered Audi used for comparison purposes during the event."
Wow, you mean at an engineered press event orchestrated by the maker of Thing A, and designed to show that Thing A is better than Thing B, Thing A actually was better than Thing B? Gee wiz, that never happens!
Seriously, though, stuff always goes better in the 'design studio' than it does in the real world. This is part of the reason why most auto mechanics think poorly of auto engineers - sure, that setup works great in the lab, but you're not accounting for the fact that Joe Wrenchturner (the guy who'll be doing this for a living) doesn't have a billion-dollar facility with the most advanced equipment money can buy.
Oh, and by the way, using their Supercharger network to recharge your car is free (battery swap isn't).
Do you very often need to drive more than your car can take you IN ONE SITTING?
Often enough that buying a sub-200 mile range vehicle isn't a wise financial decision. Not that EVs are a bad idea - if I didn't need something that can haul loads of dirt and lumber, I might just swap my pickup for a Leaf; sure would save me on fuel costs.
In other words, if you charge at home (even without a higher power charger, though without the high power charger is obviously more applicable for a Leaf) overnight, then your car will always be full of "gas", and you won't need to recharge it.
Assuming ceteris paribus, which is never the case. We have pretty cold winters around here, and from what I've been told the batteries don't hold charge quite as well when you drop below freezing, not to mention all the extra juice that'll be burnt up running the heater.
Plus, it'll be cheaper per mile than gas/diesel.
Cheaper to fuel, sure, but I'd still have to go out and spend $30k on yet another car.
Wait, the Leaf is almost $30,000??? PLUS $100/mo for battery replacement? WTF? I bought a top-of-the-line diesel VW that gets at least 40 MPG, is filled with leather and premium electronics, and has a range of over 500 miles for that price!
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"Hey, baby; wanna kill all humans?"
Bad humor is how I deal with horrifying realities I really don't want to face; the worse the situation, the more bad jokes I want to make.
Now, where did I put that 50,000 page volume of stupid puns?
And 2 packs of cigarettes, that like $8 right there.
In Florida??? Try more like $18.
I don't know exactly what they cost nowadays (haven't bought a pack in almost 3 years! Go me!), but last time I overheard someone buying them I think it was almost $5 a pack.
And that's rural Ozark Plateau pricing; $deity (and people who live there) knows what they charge on the coasts.
Wrong about what? Seems the only claim I made is that NPR and ProPublica have done a few pieces about fracking, which is very much true.
Is your inability to read and comprehend plain English painful?
Well-fuckin'-said, man!
Mind if I bring some tanks of Algae and a sunlamp with me?
With out CO2, we would all be dead... starting with the plants.
Only if the amount of algae is less than what would be required for homeostasis. After all, we're trying to simulate what would happen with an overabundance of CO2.
So far, there is no proof to demonstrates that CO2 has any negative effects on the atmosphere or the ecosystem.
Try this little experiment then: Seal yourself in an airtight room and breath. Record results.
NPR and ProPublica have done a few pieces regarding this topic that I think you should check out before writing off the phenomena completely.
Plus, if I'm not mistaken Podracer came out close to the end of the N64's lifecycle.
WCW vs NWO has to be my all-time favorite N64 title, and I generally don't like 'rasslin' games.
I remember wishing for more customization of the racers... Of course, this is before I understood things like system requirements.
Kids can be so unreasonable sometimes.
Missed the whole, "Until now, Multipath TCP has been mainly used by researchers with a modified Linux kernel," part did ya?
rooms rented by the hour
sounds kinda like a whore house to me
LMAO
I don't get it ... why so long?
Proper lubrication requires a bit of prep time.
Yeah, don't get it either. Best Zelda they ever did was on the N64. And Mario 64 kicks ass too. N64 rocks.
Hell yes; Best wrestling games ever made were for the N64, and even that shitty Star Wars: Podracer game was pretty damn fun.
I think there will be lots of infrastructure required before we'll see autonomous cars.
Agreed.
And, considering the piss-poor job we do maintaining our current infrastructure... things do not bode well.
Wait - Isn't that Revlon's tagline?
Sounds more like pharmaceuticals and cosmetics than healthcare to me.
My question is - does this get humanity any closer to the point at which I can build my own interstellar spacecraft? If not... why I should care?
What is the $100/month you talk about? Is that (optional) battery replacement insurance?
Yea, guess so... probably should have read the article and not just the snippet Google shows, huh?
That's actually not a terrible deal, especially considering what some of those aftermarket warranties for petrol automobiles cost.
So for me, it's closer to $20K (not including sales tax).
Better, but it would still be impractical for my needs. I would get more use and value out of a motorcycle.
YMMV, of course, and the pun is most definitely intended.
Why don't you leave them alone?
Because fucking with people is one of my hobbies. Just messing with their heads, mind you - nothing violent or hateful; I'm out for a laugh, not to cause harm.
Does it really bother you that others live differently?
Not in the slightest, although it obviously bothers you, considering this response of yours. Why does it bother you so much that someone you don't know messes with other people you don't know, in ways you don't know? Ever consider perhaps trying to understand the situation at hand, instead of tossing about accusations based on the tiny bit of knowledge you have on this particular topic?
I doubt you'd mess with them if they retaliated, right?
Um... yea. Yea, I totally still would. Besides, it's kind of against their religion to retaliate (which I totally respect), and worse come to worse I can always sick them on one of the dozens of teenagers in Cradle of Filth t-shirts who frequent the area. Not much cracks me up like a dude in linen clothes and a wicked beard running down the sidewalk, waving a pamphlet and yelling, "Sir! Sir!" after the kid with "Jesus was a Cunt" on the back of his shirt.
So you're bullying someone because you know they are peaceful and won't pose a threat to you.
I wouldn't call it 'bullying,' especially considering how over-used that term has become in recent years. 'Having a chuckle at the expense of,' perhaps, but if that's bullying then pretty much every comic ever born is a bully, and I don't believe that shit for one second. At least I have the decency to do it in front of people's faces, instead of sniggering behind their backs.
Interesting bit of irony: I'm willing to bet you wouldn't be half as ready to bully me like you're trying to with this post (passive-aggressive is a form of bullying, you know) if we were standing face-to-face, Internet Tough Guy, for fear of retaliation.
That makes you the bad guy.
Another oft-overused term. A jerk, probably, but 'bad guy?' It's not like I'm jacking their shit or raping their woman, man - calm down.
That statement does not apply to Americans. Just stop paying your property taxes and you'll find out what I mean.
Americans? How many places in the world don't have property taxes?
I don't know - I don't live in those places, and thus cannot speak for their taxation practices. I do, however, know that if you "own" a home in America, and stop paying your property taxes, the government will confiscate and auction "your" home.
If you're expecting qualified expertise on global taxation, you're talkin' to the wrong dude.
I suspect that by 'haven't found a good reference yu mean haven't found a good reference that supports my bias.
I mean "good reference" as in somewhere that provides information about GM's Computer Command Control system. As for 'supporting my bias,' I've owned 3 CCC cars in my day, and worked on countless others; I don't need any more confirmation of the fact that the system is an an abomination.
I'n going to ignore the rest of your post, since I prefer to not respond to childish, personal attacks.
Hey, good for them, so long as they follow through.
....
I could live with the low range if the darn thing could be 'filled' from empty in the same amount of time it takes to fill my diesel (which, incidentally, has more than double the range of an S, and rarely dips below 40 MPG).
If I'm not mistaken, the fastest charging method for a Tesla is using one of the Superchargers (assuming they're available in your area - the nearest one to me is more than 1200 miles away), which still takes at least an hour to get an 80% charge... and that's assuming no lines at the "pump."
An hour waiting is bad enough, but if there's 2 people in front of me... that's 3 hours before I can get back on the road. Fuck that shit, I gots places to be.
You can swap batteries in half the time it takes to fill a car with gasoline. Standard for all Model S. You're welcome.
http://vimeo.com/68832891
Yea, you can leave the video links out, I don't bother with them.
Anyway, I have a few questions: What do they do with the batteries they swap out? Do they go straight to the landfill, or are they recharged and swapped into someone else's Tesla? Assuming the latter, if they swap a bad pack out of someone else's car and stick it in mine, what's my legal recourse when there's an issue? Also, how would such a proprietary system benefit the adoption of EVs in general? Seems to me Tesla may be trying to set themselves up a monopoly.
"Tesla designed its Model S to allow fast battery swapping (...) At an event at Tesla's Hawthorne Design Studio, CEO Elon Musk demonstrated a battery swap operation with the Model S, which took just over 90 seconds for the car participating in the demo. By contrast it took nearly four minutes to refill a gasoline-powered Audi used for comparison purposes during the event."
Wow, you mean at an engineered press event orchestrated by the maker of Thing A, and designed to show that Thing A is better than Thing B, Thing A actually was better than Thing B? Gee wiz, that never happens!
Seriously, though, stuff always goes better in the 'design studio' than it does in the real world. This is part of the reason why most auto mechanics think poorly of auto engineers - sure, that setup works great in the lab, but you're not accounting for the fact that Joe Wrenchturner (the guy who'll be doing this for a living) doesn't have a billion-dollar facility with the most advanced equipment money can buy.
Oh, and by the way, using their Supercharger network to recharge your car is free (battery swap isn't).
For the Roadster and top-end S; 65KWh S model owners will have to pony up an extra $2000 for the privilege.
Presumably, that premium is already worked into the price of the Roadster and 85KWh S.
Do you very often need to drive more than your car can take you IN ONE SITTING?
Often enough that buying a sub-200 mile range vehicle isn't a wise financial decision. Not that EVs are a bad idea - if I didn't need something that can haul loads of dirt and lumber, I might just swap my pickup for a Leaf; sure would save me on fuel costs.
In other words, if you charge at home (even without a higher power charger, though without the high power charger is obviously more applicable for a Leaf) overnight, then your car will always be full of "gas", and you won't need to recharge it.
Assuming ceteris paribus, which is never the case. We have pretty cold winters around here, and from what I've been told the batteries don't hold charge quite as well when you drop below freezing, not to mention all the extra juice that'll be burnt up running the heater.
Plus, it'll be cheaper per mile than gas/diesel.
Cheaper to fuel, sure, but I'd still have to go out and spend $30k on yet another car.
Wait, the Leaf is almost $30,000??? PLUS $100/mo for battery replacement? WTF? I bought a top-of-the-line diesel VW that gets at least 40 MPG, is filled with leather and premium electronics, and has a range of over 500 miles for that price!
To each his own, I guess.
If you own your home free and clear,
That statement does not apply to Americans. Just stop paying your property taxes and you'll find out what I mean.
And charging interest is considered a sin.
Yes, according to the tenants of Islam, charging interest is usury (Judaism and Christianity, too, if you know where to look).
Sometimes I suspect that to be the real, unspoken, NSA-Super-Secret-Skvuirrel reason for these modern Crusades.