Oh yeah? Tell that to all the churches and mega preachers with billion dollar Swiss bank accounts! People are slaves to idealism. They'll do anything in its name. Idealism is a great motivator, one of the best there is, if not the best.
What is wrong with giving the person who asked for and paid for it an, e.g. two month exclusive?
Because the info is supposed to be public to begin with! It is our fault if we don't demand that the government responds. And as it turns out, most people are very conservative and think just the opposite. They outnumber us by a long shot. There are some things that should not be left up to majority rule, but it takes a lot of heavy weaponry to protect our rights. *Blood is a big expense*.
Are you willing to increase your taxes paid by 20% just to staff enough people
No, that's bullshit. Just post the documents. If they try to charge extra to do their damn job, we have to get rid of those people, and put in ones that serve the public. The government is a public service. That is how we are supposed to treat it. They are supposed to obey us! They keep too many secrets. If they won't open up, I guess we'll just have to depend on more Snowdens and Mannings (even though they proved relatively useless, it did reveal that little bit of fascism in the souls of most everybody that focuses on them and not what they released) to pry it open by force and deception, I don't care, whatever it takes. Submissiveness and obedience are the enemy. Resistance is nil, too inconvenient, why take a chance?
It's our own fault. We put up insufficient force. If we don't demand it, nothing with change. In fact the problem is getting worse. The public is far too submissive. It doesn't resist authority, on the contrary, it appeals to it to curry favor and privilege. That's what things like strategic voting for the 'lesser evil' gets you. The public is directly responsible for its government. There is no excuse to let this continue, unless it is what people actually want, which what I believe is the case. True liberalism is spread very thin.
FOIAs aren't free to file. They cost money to prepare and turn over.
Well, that's something we have to fix right now. We are supposed to demand the government produce the documents, not request them. And we should make them do it for free. It's what we pay taxes for goddammit! Here again a submissive, obedient public in its appeal to authority is the real problem
US is still far better than most of the third world in terms of due process available and incarceration.
That is no way to conduct a standards test! And in terms of incarceration, you are right about the US being number one, higher percentages, higher numbers all around.
The head of the DoJ doesn't have that dilution of power.
The DOJ is where the diluted power concentrates, through their selected agreed upon puppet, in the same fashion that investment bankers own the SEC and the comm giants own the FCC, Pfizer, etc with the FDA... You simply refuse to acknowledge facts. I fully understand your position. You need to believe what you do. It's okay, it's your security blanket...
And he doesn't have even a remote portion of the power and visibility he used to have as the US's top federal level law enforcement official.
Yes, he and the company still have powerful influence over the department. Why would you think they don't? The new person is no different, just another paid actor.
Bah, Like I said, yours is an appeal to authority. You choose to believe lies. There is no way to argue. You win the internets
I'm sorry but every time I see this get modded up, I have remind everybody that it cannot happen without us. If you're going to continue voting for the same old shit over and over, please understand that your complaints really can't be taken seriously.
You can't ignore prices, unless the walls come down and they're the same everywhere. I base my salary demands on the cost of living. I use beer as the reference, because it can apply to any country where you can buy it. No matter where you are, the equivalent of one case/hour will provided for a pretty good living. And it covers for inflation automatically.
but one can't tell from the simplistic and contrived scenario you set up.
Ah, thank you! I always did love people who cop out with the 'simplistic' angle. So typical of those without a counterpoint. The only blockage there is is the will.
Why do you think Holder was weak as US Attorney General and not weak as yet another lobbyist?
Holder had no choice but to act in the interests his lobbyists. He was given the job specifically to serve them. Quite simply that is the agreement. And they held his regular position back at the firm for his return. That job would not have been there if he didn't comply with their wishes during his term in office. His weakness is in the area of public interest. His weakness is in character. He acted dishonorably. He is corrupt, along with the people that appointed him(officially), and the voters who elected them. Ultimately, every single facet of the government, regardless of the money and corporation lobbyists and whatnot, comes back to the voters (and I include you) who choose to believe lies, based on the source. It is nothing but an appeal to authority, in search of preferential treatment, even amongst your peers(we all remember what peer pressure is, don't we?). That is what you are doing, and reasonable argument is utterly impotent against that. You dismiss them out of hand as 'simplistic'. How quaint this 19th Century...
They only get your contact list if you give it to them. When my name is in somebody else's contact list, it's still no problem for me. If it is not in mine, it goes through the spam filter, very simple. It has proven far and away the best solution.
Sorry, man. You prefer to believe a guy who would stand on the beach, and tell the crowd that because of the drought, water must be rationed, and you would be there all nodding approvingly and applauding. Anybody mentions desalinate or recycle, and he'll be shouted down as a simplistic lunatic. What is it about the Official Narrative that is so compelling?? I just don't get it*... If anybody is evangelizing, it is you. Are you so unaware of precedence and history (all 6000 years of it)? How do you not see how corrupt officials answer to the money that puts them in the position they hold? Yes, the position may be more powerful, but it is under the 'leadership' of weak men/women for a reason. So the real power resides elsewhere and the office serves as its hammer. It is really, truly more obvious than the wetness of liquid water. Something apparently you choose not to recognize. The reasons being too offtopic for this thread.
Still too easy to forge. The only workable solution is to whitelist your inbox to contacts only. Use a filtered second 'inbox' for new shit, and then dive into the spam box.
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Idealism doesn't put food on the table.
Oh yeah? Tell that to all the churches and mega preachers with billion dollar Swiss bank accounts! People are slaves to idealism. They'll do anything in its name. Idealism is a great motivator, one of the best there is, if not the best.
What is wrong with giving the person who asked for and paid for it an, e.g. two month exclusive?
Because the info is supposed to be public to begin with! It is our fault if we don't demand that the government responds. And as it turns out, most people are very conservative and think just the opposite. They outnumber us by a long shot. There are some things that should not be left up to majority rule, but it takes a lot of heavy weaponry to protect our rights. *Blood is a big expense*.
Are you willing to increase your taxes paid by 20% just to staff enough people
No, that's bullshit. Just post the documents. If they try to charge extra to do their damn job, we have to get rid of those people, and put in ones that serve the public. The government is a public service. That is how we are supposed to treat it. They are supposed to obey us! They keep too many secrets. If they won't open up, I guess we'll just have to depend on more Snowdens and Mannings (even though they proved relatively useless, it did reveal that little bit of fascism in the souls of most everybody that focuses on them and not what they released) to pry it open by force and deception, I don't care, whatever it takes. Submissiveness and obedience are the enemy. Resistance is nil, too inconvenient, why take a chance?
The people don't own the government. They sell it off to the higher bidder in the biennial auction... errr. I mean election...
We must work around it, circumvent it any way we can. When our rights can be voted away, majority rule has hit a brick wall
It's our own fault. We put up insufficient force. If we don't demand it, nothing with change. In fact the problem is getting worse. The public is far too submissive. It doesn't resist authority, on the contrary, it appeals to it to curry favor and privilege. That's what things like strategic voting for the 'lesser evil' gets you. The public is directly responsible for its government. There is no excuse to let this continue, unless it is what people actually want, which what I believe is the case. True liberalism is spread very thin.
FOIAs aren't free to file. They cost money to prepare and turn over.
Well, that's something we have to fix right now. We are supposed to demand the government produce the documents, not request them. And we should make them do it for free. It's what we pay taxes for goddammit! Here again a submissive, obedient public in its appeal to authority is the real problem
HA! Even less point in getting the latest from the original source, right?
I always have my screwdriver, hammer, and vice grips. I've never needed anything more. The guy just wanted a thing, okay?
US is still far better than most of the third world in terms of due process available and incarceration.
That is no way to conduct a standards test! And in terms of incarceration, you are right about the US being number one, higher percentages, higher numbers all around.
Can someone make an analogy, but with cars?
You put the car in reverse and break off the shift lever. Now you're stuck in reverse.
you win, again...
The head of the DoJ doesn't have that dilution of power.
The DOJ is where the diluted power concentrates, through their selected agreed upon puppet, in the same fashion that investment bankers own the SEC and the comm giants own the FCC, Pfizer, etc with the FDA... You simply refuse to acknowledge facts. I fully understand your position. You need to believe what you do. It's okay, it's your security blanket...
And he doesn't have even a remote portion of the power and visibility he used to have as the US's top federal level law enforcement official.
Yes, he and the company still have powerful influence over the department. Why would you think they don't? The new person is no different, just another paid actor.
Bah, Like I said, yours is an appeal to authority. You choose to believe lies. There is no way to argue. You win the internets
it's entrenching their power structures.
I'm sorry but every time I see this get modded up, I have remind everybody that it cannot happen without us. If you're going to continue voting for the same old shit over and over, please understand that your complaints really can't be taken seriously.
You can't ignore prices, unless the walls come down and they're the same everywhere. I base my salary demands on the cost of living. I use beer as the reference, because it can apply to any country where you can buy it. No matter where you are, the equivalent of one case/hour will provided for a pretty good living. And it covers for inflation automatically.
Gotta cover the prices. The rest of the world is underpaid. Nobody should ever have to work more than an hour to buy a case of decent beer.
but one can't tell from the simplistic and contrived scenario you set up.
Ah, thank you! I always did love people who cop out with the 'simplistic' angle. So typical of those without a counterpoint. The only blockage there is is the will.
Why do you think Holder was weak as US Attorney General and not weak as yet another lobbyist?
Holder had no choice but to act in the interests his lobbyists. He was given the job specifically to serve them. Quite simply that is the agreement. And they held his regular position back at the firm for his return. That job would not have been there if he didn't comply with their wishes during his term in office. His weakness is in the area of public interest. His weakness is in character. He acted dishonorably. He is corrupt, along with the people that appointed him(officially), and the voters who elected them. Ultimately, every single facet of the government, regardless of the money and corporation lobbyists and whatnot, comes back to the voters (and I include you) who choose to believe lies, based on the source. It is nothing but an appeal to authority, in search of preferential treatment, even amongst your peers(we all remember what peer pressure is, don't we?). That is what you are doing, and reasonable argument is utterly impotent against that. You dismiss them out of hand as 'simplistic'. How quaint this 19th Century...
But it is still perfectly plausible that advertising is what clogs the tubes a lot more than torrents.
How do bits rot?
From the head down
I never drove my pickup below 70, especially on gravel... mud is even more fun!
The wagon train analogy was good enough
They only get your contact list if you give it to them. When my name is in somebody else's contact list, it's still no problem for me. If it is not in mine, it goes through the spam filter, very simple. It has proven far and away the best solution.
Sorry, man. You prefer to believe a guy who would stand on the beach, and tell the crowd that because of the drought, water must be rationed, and you would be there all nodding approvingly and applauding. Anybody mentions desalinate or recycle, and he'll be shouted down as a simplistic lunatic. What is it about the Official Narrative that is so compelling?? I just don't get it*... If anybody is evangelizing, it is you. Are you so unaware of precedence and history (all 6000 years of it)? How do you not see how corrupt officials answer to the money that puts them in the position they hold? Yes, the position may be more powerful, but it is under the 'leadership' of weak men/women for a reason. So the real power resides elsewhere and the office serves as its hammer. It is really, truly more obvious than the wetness of liquid water. Something apparently you choose not to recognize. The reasons being too offtopic for this thread.
*Not true... The Animal Planet explained it all.
Still too easy to forge. The only workable solution is to whitelist your inbox to contacts only. Use a filtered second 'inbox' for new shit, and then dive into the spam box.