Can't we fine them and jail the executives for fraud on not delivering promised product instead?
No, prison is for dangerous people. They can use asset forfeiture, RICO, and other laws to control this behavior. And we should demand that their corporate charter be revoked. Problem solved, except maybe for the prison industry you all seem to want to feed.
Well see, the thing is that you are singling one out. I don't see the point in that. I mean, unless you want to argue about the crap that went on 30 years ago. Personally I'm not interested in picking over old bones that go back 10,000 years.
Oh please! We don't even know who "Edward Snowdon" is. And the "clarity" of truthfulness is unimportant when dealing with authority. It is always most prudent to assume the worst. That way you will never be disappointed.
Let's put it more simply. Aside from the one time pad, there is no publicly available encryption the NSA can't crack. Such a thing will be born secret... For us, secure communications are a fantasy. Instead of dwelling on it, let's move to open up all the wires to level the playing field a bit, and let's make it much more difficult to have what we say used against us.
Yeah, I can see you point. Apple doesn't need to read them directly, they farm the job out by sending the raw data to a third party. And faith in corp/gov't? Not me... History precludes that. And the future doesn't look too bright either.
That's just it. The public's sway is 100% effective, but they approve of the situation, or they would be voting for other people, and that would be the end of the story.
If a million people told the government not to do X and they did it anyway, there's a chance of consequences.
Only at election time, but those chances of anything changing are extremely small.
At the present time Comcast tells the government not to do X, and in such a case, if the government does not comply, you will see new people on the ballot. The company is buying a service, and they expect a return on that investment. 95% of the politicians will be reelected, and between elections, the public will cry about how much they hate their corrupt politicians, and then vote for them again. It's like a domestic dispute in the trailer park. After the cops leave, the couple are fucking like rabbits.
The Prohibition was ultimately ineffective because the masses decided to ignore the law.
No, they realized more profit could be made through taxation and licensing. It was amnesty for mobsters to go legit. They still run the business. Just like tobacco. The problem with weed is that it's too easy to grow your own, so it has limited potential in the revenue department, so there, prohibition pays off handsomely.
As far as this privacy bullshit goes, our only hope is to put them in the same glass house they put us. Only then will you possibly see how respectfully information is used.
Speeches must be made, and dinners must be eaten. And of course, checks must be signed, or however they do it with all this new electronic banking stuff.
And I know we can count on 98% you to reelect 95% of these people back into office, and they'll fix everything right up. Yep, that's just what they'll do.. Iron clad guarantee.. Like Desktop Linux, reform is just around the corner. And day now...
Don't sweat it. I just write it off as some Freudian thing.
For the feds, you bet your ass they'll cough it up. Just clone the drives, and off they go.
Damn! Even Apple sounds like they're on November's ballot! May as well be, they and Google are damn near a government agency.
Can't we fine them and jail the executives for fraud on not delivering promised product instead?
No, prison is for dangerous people. They can use asset forfeiture, RICO, and other laws to control this behavior. And we should demand that their corporate charter be revoked. Problem solved, except maybe for the prison industry you all seem to want to feed.
How about just using the natural gas pressure and burnoff to generate power as opposed to simply lighting it off as an open flame?
Economics also precludes that. It is cheaper to burn it off, or like a dairy farmer throwing his milk down the sewer to prop up the price.
No mention of party was made at all...
Sorry, but I could not resist...
...regardless of what party they are.
Well see, the thing is that you are singling one out. I don't see the point in that. I mean, unless you want to argue about the crap that went on 30 years ago. Personally I'm not interested in picking over old bones that go back 10,000 years.
The problem with this is the rules of congress say you have to pay for new spending.
Sorry, old man, we haven't finished discussing old spending.
And I'm very disappointed to see you too, carrying on with all this democrat/republican bullshit. Most of us have outgrown that.
Oh please! We don't even know who "Edward Snowdon" is. And the "clarity" of truthfulness is unimportant when dealing with authority. It is always most prudent to assume the worst. That way you will never be disappointed.
Unfortunately the mods don't want to hear that. The simple things are often the most painful to some. Marrone! Waddami gonna do?
Why are you being modded down? The wars are almost entirely off budget. Maybe they'll make up for it with asset forfeitures..
Let's put it more simply. Aside from the one time pad, there is no publicly available encryption the NSA can't crack. Such a thing will be born secret... For us, secure communications are a fantasy. Instead of dwelling on it, let's move to open up all the wires to level the playing field a bit, and let's make it much more difficult to have what we say used against us.
Yeah, I can see you point. Apple doesn't need to read them directly, they farm the job out by sending the raw data to a third party. And faith in corp/gov't? Not me... History precludes that. And the future doesn't look too bright either.
It's why you can't sentence a corporation to death...
Ah, but you can. Its charter can be revoked, should we ever vote for people who would do such a thing, but that's not very likely.
For these people, with their resources, your "encryption", unless it's a one time pad, is no better than ROT13.
Is he required to lie about this?
Very likely, if I can read my mail, so can he. It's only logical.
"flix".. Netflix should sue!
That's just it. The public's sway is 100% effective, but they approve of the situation, or they would be voting for other people, and that would be the end of the story.
If a million people told the government not to do X and they did it anyway, there's a chance of consequences.
Only at election time, but those chances of anything changing are extremely small.
At the present time Comcast tells the government not to do X, and in such a case, if the government does not comply, you will see new people on the ballot. The company is buying a service, and they expect a return on that investment. 95% of the politicians will be reelected, and between elections, the public will cry about how much they hate their corrupt politicians, and then vote for them again. It's like a domestic dispute in the trailer park. After the cops leave, the couple are fucking like rabbits.
Why should they? Where's the incentive?
Well they must have very nice wide sidewalks to be able to divide them up like that.
Who cares? The fact that Tor is detectable makes it useless. It doesn't blend. It stands out like a Al Sharpton at a Klan meeting.
The Prohibition was ultimately ineffective because the masses decided to ignore the law.
No, they realized more profit could be made through taxation and licensing. It was amnesty for mobsters to go legit. They still run the business. Just like tobacco. The problem with weed is that it's too easy to grow your own, so it has limited potential in the revenue department, so there, prohibition pays off handsomely.
As far as this privacy bullshit goes, our only hope is to put them in the same glass house they put us. Only then will you possibly see how respectfully information is used.
If you want to fight for your freedom, fight the source of the problem.
How do you fight against the universe?
Gotta condition the little rug rats as best you can. Parents just want them out of the house...
Speeches must be made, and dinners must be eaten. And of course, checks must be signed, or however they do it with all this new electronic banking stuff.
And I know we can count on 98% you to reelect 95% of these people back into office, and they'll fix everything right up. Yep, that's just what they'll do.. Iron clad guarantee.. Like Desktop Linux, reform is just around the corner. And day now...