The community behind it is not that important the ideals are what is important. As a proprietary software vendor your biggest priority should be to make your customers as happy as possible. This may include allowing them access to the source so they can fix your broken stuff, publishing file formats etc so that they can be interfaced and on top of all that stable and as bug free as possible.
Ask some of the java app server developers what happens when you start charging too much and pushing buggy software out. You start doing that and a customer and or a programmer gets mad to the point that they just make you go away by releasing a similar product using a open source development model.
The OSS development model shifts the control back to the developer, make a OSS developer mad enough to the point he cares and it won't take long and your company fails to exist any longer.
I don't think anyone really cares who the targets are or that the wiretaps are occuring. The problem is they are doing it without Judicial oversite and that is a big problem. It is one thing to wiretap a american it is yet another to do so without the checks and balances provided by the judicial system.
Python is just another scripting language but a very powerful and flexible one. Not a whole lot different then using bash on a system should bash go away also?
I use python for just about everything including machine automation at work. A distro without python would be absolutely worthless to me. Hell ain't the gentoo ports system built on python?(don't know for sure I don't use gentoo).
Not many people will dispute the facts that wire tapping is a necessary. What most people at least the ones with a brain have a problem with is wire tapping without either probable cause and a court order. The founding fathers outfitted our govt with a system that is supposed to be self regulating. There is no reason whatsoever to remove the courts from the process they are there as a check to ensure privacy and constitutional rights are not violated.
Of course but it is childs play anybody can do it...
Create a document in open office and put some tags in where you would like your form fields to be displayed. Now unzip the resulting document and use this for a template. When a form is submitted do a directory copy of the document contents to a temp location then using replace input the field elements into content.xml . Next have the php script zip the temporary directory back up with a odt extension.
You can at this point you have a odt file which can be read directly with OO and or you can make headless call to a OO macro to convert it into nearly any imaginable format.
I managed to pull it off with only about 20 lines of php...
OO is the greatest thing since sliced bread.... We now use php to generate odt formatted documents straight from the web servers and OO in headless mode to auto generate three formats odt, pdf and doc...
One only has to look at NASA to see just how bad using two standards can be. NASA used two standards of measurement (english and metric), the result is a pile of parts strewn across the red planet.
Come back and talk to me when MS office can load the same document faster on my linux box than open office on my linux box....
Open Office stands as one of the best OSS software packages to date. What other package is as complex yet performs rather admirably on multiple platforms. Open Office is a immense code base and I salute the authors for their technical achievements. What is more amazing is the low number of bugs for such a cross platform capable application.
How do I know he has not been bought by the dark side. Besides just because he wrote a couple macros I would not call him a expert either. Just sounds to me like he is pissed off because he cannot code...
If those bugs are so important to you throw somebody a few bucks and I bet you can get them fixed.
Try calling microsoft and telling them you will throw them fifty bucks to fix a bug in word and see what you get...
Well just to set the record straight I did finally go to another shop and part of that reason for the move was to get away from doing patchwork for sleazy dealers.
Well I guess you could say that but then again I worked part time as a wrench slinger for a auto repair shop (not my own shop). The boss said hey slip a oversized bearing in that engine and of course I questioned it but was told to just do it.
I was a auto safety inspector when I was slinging wrenches and you my friend are 100% correct. The inspection laws are a complete scam imposed by the state to increase revenue by collecting more tax money on unnecessary repairs and parts.
I now live in a state that does not require that stupid crap and could not be happier.
What percentage of accidents are caused by faulty equipment.... I am guessing it is a extremely small percentage of overall vehicle accidents.
Actually the state should impose a good lemon law or perhaps maybe they have already.
You think a inspector is gonna figure out that I yanked off the oil pan and just stuck a oversize bearing on a rod that was knocking? I really doubt it...
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I was in the navy and yes I was stationed in Norfolk, VA. Most of these used car dealerships in Norfolk area are some of the most sleazy joints I have ever encountered. I have seen some of them sell poor newbie sailors crap like a 500 dollar beat up pinto for tens of thousands of dollars. Hell I used to be a mechanic in the area and some of the patch jobs I did on engines and stuff for some of these sleazy dealerships was simply scary. They used to bring me stuff that had rings so shot that the cars looked like a mosquito fogger going down the road. I would swap out the oil with some good ole synthetic (does not smoke when burning) and shoot it down the road. The dealership would sell it to some fool with a 30 day warranty on the engine and laugh their way to the bank.
The state could step up and do something about it by applying reasonable intrest rate caps like a bunch of states do.
Well then MA is going to have to change their current standard for a format to be considered open. Anyone listening to the hearings knows that one of the criteria is that the format be open to everyone for revision and input. In this case the format is controlled by a single vendor and fails that point miserably.
I am sure however that given some crooked politics and a little money thrown in the right places that may be revised.
This still does not meet MA's Defininition of a Open Format. Anyone listening to the hearings knows that MA's definition of a Open Format includes the ability of mulitple vendors to have equal input to the format specification. MS soley controls the MS XML format therefore it does not meet the MA qualification as a Open Format.
Now of course I fully expect crooked politics and money to fix that little loop hole.
So let me get this straight you hate java but you love C#. The two languages are damn near identical. What you are really trying to say is you seen some MS marketing material that said C# was really great so you believed it.
You still cannot program a heavy application in it if you have to support IE. IE's script interpreter is so damn slow that loading a app is like watching paint dry.
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The community behind it is not that important the ideals are what is important. As a proprietary software vendor your biggest priority should be to make your customers as
happy as possible. This may include allowing them access to the source so they can fix your broken stuff, publishing file formats etc so that they can be interfaced and
on top of all that stable and as bug free as possible.
Ask some of the java app server developers what happens when you start charging too much and pushing buggy software out. You start doing that and a customer and or a programmer gets mad to the point that they just make you go away by releasing a
similar product using a open source development model.
The OSS development model shifts the control back to the developer, make a OSS developer mad enough to the point he cares and it won't take long and your company fails to exist any longer.
I don't think anyone really cares who the targets are or that the wiretaps are occuring. The problem is they are doing it without Judicial oversite and that is a big problem. It is one thing to wiretap a american it is yet another to do so without the checks and balances provided by the judicial system.
Why would I not just run python native which supports way more platforms?
Python is just another scripting language but a very powerful and flexible one. Not a whole lot different then using bash on a system should bash go away also?
I use python for just about everything including machine automation at work. A distro without python would be absolutely worthless to me. Hell ain't the gentoo ports system built on python?(don't know for sure I don't use gentoo).
Come back and talk to me when you load windows on a linksys router and it can still do it's job.
Not many people will dispute the facts that wire tapping is a necessary. What most people at least the ones with a brain have a problem with is wire tapping without
either probable cause and a court order. The founding fathers outfitted our govt with a system that is supposed to be self regulating. There is no reason whatsoever to remove the courts from the process they are there as a check to ensure privacy and constitutional rights are not violated.
No you probably got some key logger bullshit installed on your owned windows machine that is capturing the content of the clipboard.
GNU barcode and a simple macro...now who is the real idiot.
Of course but it is childs play anybody can do it...
Create a document in open office and put some tags in where you would
like your form fields to be displayed. Now unzip the resulting document
and use this for a template. When a form is submitted do a directory copy of the document contents to a temp location then using replace input the field elements into content.xml . Next have the php script zip the temporary directory back up with a odt extension.
You can at this point you have a odt file which can be read directly with OO and or you can make headless call to a OO macro to convert it into nearly any imaginable format.
I managed to pull it off with only about 20 lines of php...
OO is the greatest thing since sliced bread.... We now use php to generate odt formatted documents straight from the web servers and OO in headless mode to auto generate three formats odt, pdf and doc...
Keep it up team we love OO...
Add mosix and you have a company wide screen saver cluster...
One only has to look at NASA to see just how bad using two standards can be. NASA used two standards of measurement (english and metric), the result is a pile of parts strewn across the red planet.
Come back and talk to me when MS office can load the same document faster on my linux box than open office on my linux box....
Open Office stands as one of the best OSS software packages to date. What other package is as complex yet performs rather admirably on multiple platforms. Open Office is a immense code base and I salute the authors for their technical achievements. What is more amazing is the low number of bugs for such a cross platform capable application.
How do I know he has not been bought by the dark side. Besides just because he
wrote a couple macros I would not call him a expert either. Just sounds to me like he is pissed off because he cannot code...
If those bugs are so important to you throw somebody a few bucks and I bet you
can get them fixed.
Try calling microsoft and telling them you will throw them fifty bucks to fix a bug in word and see what you get...
Well just to set the record straight I did finally go to another shop and part of that reason for the move was to get away from doing patchwork for sleazy dealers.
Well I guess you could say that but then again I worked part time as a wrench slinger for a auto repair shop (not my own shop). The boss said hey slip a oversized bearing in that engine and of course I questioned it but was told to just do it.
I was a auto safety inspector when I was slinging wrenches and you my friend are 100% correct. The inspection laws are a complete scam imposed by the state to increase revenue by collecting more tax money on unnecessary repairs and parts.
I now live in a state that does not require that stupid crap and could not be happier.
What percentage of accidents are caused by faulty equipment.... I am guessing it is a extremely small percentage of overall vehicle accidents.
Actually the state should impose a good lemon law or perhaps maybe they have already.
You think a inspector is gonna figure out that I yanked off the oil pan and just stuck a oversize bearing on a rod that was knocking? I really doubt it...
I was in the navy and yes I was stationed in Norfolk, VA. Most of these used car dealerships in Norfolk area are some of the most sleazy joints I have ever encountered. I have seen some of them sell poor newbie sailors crap like a 500 dollar beat up pinto for tens of thousands of dollars. Hell I used to be a mechanic in the area and some of the patch jobs I did on engines and stuff for some of these sleazy dealerships was simply scary. They used to bring me stuff that had rings so shot that the cars looked like a mosquito fogger going down the road. I would swap out the oil with some good ole synthetic (does not smoke when burning) and shoot it down the road. The dealership would sell it to some fool with a 30 day warranty on the engine and laugh their way to the bank.
The state could step up and do something about it by applying reasonable intrest rate caps like a bunch of states do.
Well then MA is going to have to change their current standard for a format to be considered open. Anyone listening to the hearings knows that one of the criteria is that the format be open to everyone for revision and input. In this case the format is controlled by a single vendor and fails that point miserably.
I am sure however that given some crooked politics and a little money thrown in the right places that may be revised.
This still does not meet MA's Defininition of a Open Format. Anyone listening to the hearings knows that MA's definition of a Open Format includes the ability of mulitple vendors to have equal input to the format specification. MS soley controls the MS XML format therefore it does not meet the MA qualification as a Open Format.
Now of course I fully expect crooked politics and money to fix that little loop hole.
So let me get this straight you hate java but you love C#. The two languages are damn near identical. What you are really trying to say is you seen some MS marketing material that said C# was really great so you believed it.
So you think I cannot do that with Open Office...guess what you are dead wrong..
On top of that I can read and write those open office files directly with out even using automation to do it.....put that in your pipe and smoke it...
You still cannot program a heavy application in it if you have to support IE. IE's script interpreter is so damn slow that loading a app is like watching paint dry.