The fact that they where doing it first has nothing to do with the script interpreter being slow as hell. Do some tests for yourself the firefox script interpreter is nearly 10X faster than IE.
Before they think about playing with ajax they may wish to fix the slow ass script interpreter in IE. Of course they are threatened as these new rich web applications neutralize the platform. This time however there is a new kid (firefox) in town that is gonna be hard to kill off like they did with netscape.
If you want buggy drivers introduced into the system with no way to fix them then just buy windows. Not only no but hell no, I don't want and or need binary drivers running in my system. Either that or keep that junk in user space where it is less likely to bother anything.
What where did you go to school? It don't make a damn what the directory permissions are if the file had write permissions removed from everyone end of story..
Ok nifty idea but how does it perform in the real world. How well does it optimize the code to make up for the dismally slow IE java script engine. Both browsers could use some java script engine speed improvements but IE darn sure needs alot of help. Of course I don't expect the monopoly to do this as it is not in their best interest to allow applications to run in this fashion as it neutralizes their platform.
Google has no choice but to push firefox as hard as they can. The are facing a threat from the next version of windows / ie. Without a doubt MS is going to use their monopoly desktop to force people to msn search by embedding it into windows. Google should have already been doing this 6 mos ago including a direct download link right on the home page. Same thing goes for open office they need to be using it as a weapon right now also.
I hope they don't plan on using ajax or java script to do it. The IE java script interpreter is so damn slow it is like watching paint dry. I just tried to build a large scale app using a java script interface kit and failed. It failed not because the program was bad, as a matter of fact it was damn snappy in firefox. Then I did the unthinkable and loaded it up in IE, slow as mud to the point of being totally unusable. The next person that tells me how great IE is, I am going to punch in the teeth.
All the best tools are the great networking tools which allow me to track down and eradicate owned windows machines on the network.
nmap - hmmm what trojan do we have on the network today tcpdump - great at finding worms scanners iptraf - for finding weird clients p2p movie downloaders etc. ethereal - great for grabbing pop and telnet passwords aimsniff - just for amusement
With just those couple of tools I can keep the helpdesk busy for weeks by finding owned machines that need cleaning.
I don't have a single application at home, work or anywhere else for that matter that needs a.net runtime. We do not develop for it at work and that is not about to change either since it offers us absolutely no benefits. Both.net and mono could drop off the planet tomorrow and I and anyone else on our programming teams would not even notice. I hear a few fan boys talking about how great it is but really there is not a single compelling thing about it that would make me want to invest more than 30 seconds with it.
In this case I am not using a macro, or scripting internally my program is outputting a populated ods document based on a template I created with open office. One hell of alot easier than trying to automate ms office and my program is kept small and simple.
I created a program for here at work just yesterday that logs machine PLC data to a ods formatted sheet. I just created a ods template and my logger program written in python opens content.xml and feeds the log data into it. Now of course I could do that with office also but it would require either macro programming and or automating excel to do it, far uglier than just producing straight ods output from a program. Not to mention having to run a office suite on a server just to produce a document. For the developer ODF is a god send!
Well sure they could do that but then their suite does not meet the requirements of the MA statute which plainly states that the softwares default document save format has to be ODF. So no MS cannot play the silly little default save format game.
Also if you read the mandate guidelines the suite or tool producing the document "has to" use ODF as the default save format. Sure people can save as a word doc but the suite has to have it's default format as ODF (brilliant!).
Now for a usability question, can it play mp3's out of the box? Does it include all the movieplayer codecs? If not because they are patent encumbered or restricted give me a frigging button to press that will install support for these. Hell it would take fifteen minutes max to build a gdialog installer with python to do this crap for me.
From the ubuntu web site
"If you add the debian-marillat repository to your Ubuntu sources.list (use testing/main), you can use Synaptic or apt-get to install MPlayer, lame, and other tools to deal with non-free formats like DVD and MP3."
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Sure go run a bindows application and you will see what I mean. This is no secret everyone knows the java script engine in IE is way slower.
The fact that they where doing it first has nothing to do with the script interpreter being slow as hell. Do some tests for yourself the firefox script interpreter is nearly 10X faster than IE.
Before they think about playing with ajax they may wish to fix the slow ass script interpreter in IE. Of course they are threatened as these new rich web applications neutralize the platform. This time however there is a new kid (firefox) in town that is gonna be hard to kill off like they did with netscape.
If you want buggy drivers introduced into the system with no way to fix them then
just buy windows. Not only no but hell no, I don't want and or need binary drivers
running in my system. Either that or keep that junk in user space where it is less likely to bother anything.
What where did you go to school? It don't make a damn what the directory permissions
are if the file had write permissions removed from everyone end of story..
Ok nifty idea but how does it perform in the real world. How well does it optimize the code to make up for the dismally slow IE java script engine. Both browsers could use some java script engine speed improvements but IE darn sure needs alot of help. Of course I don't expect the monopoly to do this as it is not in their best interest to allow applications to run in this fashion as it neutralizes their platform.
Cluster what? Or perhaps you mean making it highly available. Unless somebody sneaked it by me windows cannot do real clustering.
A database release especially a MS database is about as interesting as somebody releasing a new ftp client.
You ain't changing nothing that MS does not want you to, you do not own the platform they do.
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Google has no choice but to push firefox as hard as they can. The are facing a threat from the next version of windows / ie. Without a doubt MS is going to use their monopoly desktop to force people to msn search by embedding it into windows. Google should have already been doing this 6 mos ago including a direct download link right on the home page. Same thing goes for open office they need to be using it as a weapon right now also.
Nope in this case Linux is far easier since the damn root kit won't even work on linux...nothing to do, already protected from being owned.
I hope they don't plan on using ajax or java script to do it. The IE java script interpreter is so damn slow it is like watching paint dry. I just tried to build a large scale app using a java script interface kit and failed. It failed not because the program was bad, as a matter of fact it was damn snappy in firefox. Then I did the unthinkable and loaded it up in IE, slow as mud to the point of being totally unusable. The next person that tells me how great IE is, I am going to punch in the teeth.
All the best tools are the great networking tools which allow me to track down and eradicate owned windows machines on the network.
nmap - hmmm what trojan do we have on the network today
tcpdump - great at finding worms scanners
iptraf - for finding weird clients p2p movie downloaders etc.
ethereal - great for grabbing pop and telnet passwords
aimsniff - just for amusement
With just those couple of tools I can keep the helpdesk busy for weeks by finding owned machines that need cleaning.
I don't have a single application at home, work or anywhere else for that matter that needs a .net runtime. We do not develop for it at work and that is not about to change either since it offers us absolutely no benefits. Both .net and mono could drop off the planet tomorrow and I and anyone else on our programming teams would not even notice. I hear a few fan boys talking about how great it is but really there is not a single compelling thing about it that would make me want to invest more than 30 seconds with it.
MS Office is slow as dirt on my linux box...see what is the point, come back when I can do
a speed test on linux.
I could not give a darned what license MS uses for anything. I don't even think about them any longer, they have become totally expendable to me.
Oh you done it now, all the java fan boys are gonna stomp up and down telling
us java is as fast as C or C++ etc......yea right.
In this case I am not using a macro, or scripting internally my program is outputting a
populated ods document based on a template I created with open office. One hell of alot easier than trying to automate ms office and my program is kept small and simple.
Read my reply because I generate charts out of it..
I created a program for here at work just yesterday that logs machine PLC data to a ods formatted sheet. I just created a ods template and my logger program written in python opens content.xml and feeds the log data into it. Now of course I could do that with office also but it would require either macro programming and or automating excel to do it, far uglier than just producing straight ods output from a program. Not to mention having to run a office suite on a server just to produce a document. For the developer ODF is a god send!
Well sure they could do that but then their suite does not meet the requirements of the MA
statute which plainly states that the softwares default document save format has to be ODF. So no MS cannot play the silly little default save format game.
Also if you read the mandate guidelines the suite or tool producing the document "has to" use ODF as the default save format. Sure people can save as a word doc but the suite has to have it's default format as ODF (brilliant!).
Now for a usability question, can it play mp3's out of the box? Does it include
all the movieplayer codecs? If not because they are patent encumbered or restricted give me a frigging button to press that will install support for these. Hell it would take fifteen minutes max to build a gdialog installer with python to do this crap for me.
From the ubuntu web site
"If you add the debian-marillat repository to your Ubuntu sources.list (use testing/main), you can use Synaptic or apt-get to install MPlayer, lame, and other tools to deal with non-free formats like DVD and MP3."
Well hell people could talk to each other on there, they had better ban phones also.