Best I can figure out, the idea behind.NET/SOAP/XML is to be able to do every single bit of inter-application or client/server computing across the net via a web server on port 80.
I dunno...I still fail to see a use for it all that either hasn't been taken care of alread or is useful outside of examples of what it is.
Guess I'm just too stupid and stuck in my int main() ways!
Well, I'm sure half of those 9 posts are "First post" morons, and the other half are people who couldn't bother to read an article and just post based on the synopsis.
Guess it's/.ed cause some people are actually reading it:)
Have them come over and look through your telescope. Explain why the view is limited due to the streetlights and that 300w halogen bulb so the dog can see when it's barking at night.
I agree...when protesting a new local gas station at a board of corrupt commissioners meeting, I brought up the point of light pollution, and they mentioned how all new construction is required to have downcast lighting.
Still doesn't explain why on a cloudy night, parts of the sky glows brighter than a 100W bulb though
But you can run X11 on OSX (hmmm...X11, OSX - would have been REALLY cool if apple had based everything on X11).
So the companies could actually just write pretty much one port with a few defines here and there.
Of course on the OSX there would probably be a perfomance hit. Perhaps if they released an X11 version and OSX version and see which way the wind blows.
It would seem that if you are a mixed shop and not all OSX, then running the X version on OSX would provide a consistant interface across machines.
There was the episode with propsition 24 (the one to get rid of all immigrants). They had the voting scene with all the varied ways that people in Springfield voted - flush one toilet or the other, blow out one candle or the other and so on.
Seems pretty simple...then again so does punching the hole next to the choice that I want.
Good points about the cost and distances, but most of the devices designed for the USB and firewire are not things you generally have a 100 feet away from the computer.
As for the cost, it would appear that the vendors have decided cost regardless that putting 6 USB ports on a machine is better than 1 or two serial ports. Gives the users more flexability and the speed makes their products seem faster to the user as well. For things like temperature sensors, serial is awsome (plus easy to program for).
Ethernet doesn't have to use TCP/IP, but yes, it is overkill.
What I want is something that is a generic bus that everything plugs into. VCR outputs, receiver in/out, tv, computer, mouse, keyboard, etc...
That way the VCR can put data on the bus and the computer can pull it off and make use of it. Or a KVM would become as simple as having computer a take its input from the keyboard device 0x245 and mouse device 0x243 and sending output to video device 0x599. Wanna switch, send a signal out on the bus.
Then again, I guess adding fiber and the logic would make my $20 mouse cost a LOT more. Guess I don't wanna pay $540 for a toaster that can send my TV an image of just how well done my toast is.
Yes...I know they are light years different, but they are all doing the same thing - moving data from whats at one end of the wire to the other...just like Serial and Parallel does. (Except bluetooth/ir - from one end point to the other).
IR is basically a serial port that uses IR instead of a wire to make the interconnect. Bluetooth uses 900Mhz to make the interconnect instead of LED's. USB is another serial protocol, just faster than RS-232. Same with firewire, just faster still. For the most part they are really just varied serial ports.
Ethernet(10BT,100BT,1000BT) is a bit different.
What we are seeing with firewire and USB is a progression of serial protocols towards an ethernet kinda environment, where there may be more than one device on the line at the same time and you can have little hubs/switches to coordinate the traffic.
I wouldn't really say that many of them are optimized for one thing or another. IR is just as limited as an RS-232 port, just made it easier on notebook designers to save space. USB was done since rs-232 had some serious speed limitations. Firewire for pretty much the same reason. Bluetooth - well...it was more of a way to elimnate wires...cool idea.
Poughkeepsie isn't that bad is it? Or has it gotten much worse in the last 10 years? Actually, come to think of it, it is kinda scummy, but there are lots of places within a short drive that are nice, or like I said, were 10 years ago (Hyde Park, Red Hook, Pleasant Valley, etc...)
Given that people don't really like to live in the city as much as commute in (not that Albany is that huge, but a house beats an apartment for any family oriented person), what are the conditions outside of Albany?
When we visit the in-laws, we fly into Albany and head about an hour east...very depressing some parts - mountain "towns" that have nothing other than maybe a gas station.
I know that right across the hudson, you've got things like Schnectedy (why do towns in NY have to be so hard to spell?) and it didn't seem that bad - but usually we just drive through. Didn't seem like someplace I'd like to live, then again driving through on the main roads, you usually just see the business areas and houses with crummy location...could be some nice areas right off the road.
Then again, Poughkeepsie, Red Hook, New Paltz, etc... isn't that far out of the way to be ruled out either. Especially with the train.
About the only thing (and it's what keeps my wife from moving back) is the winters. Some people just hate the cold and snow.
But I'm all for seeing New England revitalizing itself. Too many little towns (like where my wife is from) that are beautiful locations, but with the mills that closed, they just can't support an economy.
I dunno...I've got WinCE running on an iPaq. I don't know if it's CE or pocketPC on top of it, but if that was in car, they'd need to make sure the little hole to stick the stylus in for reset would have to be VERY accessiable.
I got pissed after the first point. With PAM I have single signon via kerberos, LDAP, SMB or even a grep on a file if I wanted to. In fact that echoed what I saw over and over in their comparison.
Linux has choices.
It mentions that Linux has 5 different JFS's, whereas Windows has one. Well...how come everytime the NT server goes down it takes FOREVER to run autochk, but the Linux box with the untested JFS comes right back up?
Over and over it was that Linux has choices and flexability, and where they couldn't find anything else, they would use "well...Linux doesn't have this Microsoft technology"
I'd love to see a page done like this with the same amount of FUD written from the Linux PoV. Almost every item would have to include "Microsoft does not give you a choice" or "All the choices are additional purchases from third party vendors"
I'm still trying to figure it out. At first I head all about using.net and web application service providers - kinda what CORBA or DCOM does - run this procedure over there and give me the results.
It also sounds like you can write something in a language as long as it does nothing other than pure.net and run it on anyplace that supports.NET - much live Java does.
So, is it basically Java with DCOM/RPC stuff built in using XML to pass data back and forth?
Amen. But the Barrow Downs were a cool scene I wished they had in there, along with the old forest. It helped to show just how much in-over-their-heads they all were.
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Best I can figure out, the idea behind .NET/SOAP/XML is to be able to do every single bit of inter-application or client/server computing across the net via a web server on port 80.
I dunno...I still fail to see a use for it all that either hasn't been taken care of alread or is useful outside of examples of what it is.
Guess I'm just too stupid and stuck in my int main() ways!
Well, I'm sure half of those 9 posts are "First post" morons, and the other half are people who couldn't bother to read an article and just post based on the synopsis.
/.ed cause some people are actually reading it :)
Guess it's
Have them come over and look through your telescope. Explain why the view is limited due to the streetlights and that 300w halogen bulb so the dog can see when it's barking at night.
Works pretty good.
I agree...when protesting a new local gas station at a board of corrupt commissioners meeting, I brought up the point of light pollution, and they mentioned how all new construction is required to have downcast lighting.
Still doesn't explain why on a cloudy night, parts of the sky glows brighter than a 100W bulb though
Hmmm...well the service comes into your home and into a wireless access point.
:)
Ask the company to show you the connection between your location and the neighboring premise.
Of course, it's a BS answer to them...but I would expect a new TOS real soon mentioning wireless
Up until he released it, I had never seen desktop windows that were anything but square.
Xclock, Xeyes ?
Probably didn't see many that weren't rectangular because it turned out to be mostly useless.
But you can run X11 on OSX (hmmm...X11, OSX - would have been REALLY cool if apple had based everything on X11).
So the companies could actually just write pretty much one port with a few defines here and there.
Of course on the OSX there would probably be a perfomance hit. Perhaps if they released an X11 version and OSX version and see which way the wind blows.
It would seem that if you are a mixed shop and not all OSX, then running the X version on OSX would provide a consistant interface across machines.
There was the episode with propsition 24 (the one to get rid of all immigrants). They had the voting scene with all the varied ways that people in Springfield voted - flush one toilet or the other, blow out one candle or the other and so on.
Seems pretty simple...then again so does punching the hole next to the choice that I want.
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Good points about the cost and distances, but most of the devices designed for the USB and firewire are not things you generally have a 100 feet away from the computer.
As for the cost, it would appear that the vendors have decided cost regardless that putting 6 USB ports on a machine is better than 1 or two serial ports. Gives the users more flexability and the speed makes their products seem faster to the user as well. For things like temperature sensors, serial is awsome (plus easy to program for).
Ethernet doesn't have to use TCP/IP, but yes, it is overkill.
What I want is something that is a generic bus that everything plugs into. VCR outputs, receiver in/out, tv, computer, mouse, keyboard, etc...
That way the VCR can put data on the bus and the computer can pull it off and make use of it. Or a KVM would become as simple as having computer a take its input from the keyboard device 0x245 and mouse device 0x243 and sending output to video device 0x599. Wanna switch, send a signal out on the bus.
Then again, I guess adding fiber and the logic would make my $20 mouse cost a LOT more. Guess I don't wanna pay $540 for a toaster that can send my TV an image of just how well done my toast is.
Yes...I know they are light years different, but they are all doing the same thing - moving data from whats at one end of the wire to the other...just like Serial and Parallel does. (Except bluetooth/ir - from one end point to the other).
IR is basically a serial port that uses IR instead of a wire to make the interconnect. Bluetooth uses 900Mhz to make the interconnect instead of LED's. USB is another serial protocol, just faster than RS-232. Same with firewire, just faster still. For the most part they are really just varied serial ports.
Ethernet(10BT,100BT,1000BT) is a bit different.
What we are seeing with firewire and USB is a progression of serial protocols towards an ethernet kinda environment, where there may be more than one device on the line at the same time and you can have little hubs/switches to coordinate the traffic.
I wouldn't really say that many of them are optimized for one thing or another. IR is just as limited as an RS-232 port, just made it easier on notebook designers to save space. USB was done since rs-232 had some serious speed limitations. Firewire for pretty much the same reason. Bluetooth - well...it was more of a way to elimnate wires...cool idea.
Thanks for the info.
I've been to Albany, Miami and San Diego.
Surprisingly, Albany is the only one that I would wish to return to. San Diego and Miami are both just too big...not something I liked.
Poughkeepsie isn't that bad is it? Or has it gotten much worse in the last 10 years? Actually, come to think of it, it is kinda scummy, but there are lots of places within a short drive that are nice, or like I said, were 10 years ago (Hyde Park, Red Hook, Pleasant Valley, etc...)
Given that people don't really like to live in the city as much as commute in (not that Albany is that huge, but a house beats an apartment for any family oriented person), what are the conditions outside of Albany?
When we visit the in-laws, we fly into Albany and head about an hour east...very depressing some parts - mountain "towns" that have nothing other than maybe a gas station.
I know that right across the hudson, you've got things like Schnectedy (why do towns in NY have to be so hard to spell?) and it didn't seem that bad - but usually we just drive through. Didn't seem like someplace I'd like to live, then again driving through on the main roads, you usually just see the business areas and houses with crummy location...could be some nice areas right off the road.
Then again, Poughkeepsie, Red Hook, New Paltz, etc... isn't that far out of the way to be ruled out either. Especially with the train.
About the only thing (and it's what keeps my wife from moving back) is the winters. Some people just hate the cold and snow.
But I'm all for seeing New England revitalizing itself. Too many little towns (like where my wife is from) that are beautiful locations, but with the mills that closed, they just can't support an economy.
Actually, no, it has issues with just the default MS stuff that is on there.
I wonder if you'll have to pay Apple $100/yr to use iDrive now, like you do with iTunes, etc...
I dunno...I've got WinCE running on an iPaq. I don't know if it's CE or pocketPC on top of it, but if that was in car, they'd need to make sure the little hole to stick the stylus in for reset would have to be VERY accessiable.
I got pissed after the first point. With PAM I have single signon via kerberos, LDAP, SMB or even a grep on a file if I wanted to. In fact that echoed what I saw over and over in their comparison.
Linux has choices.
It mentions that Linux has 5 different JFS's, whereas Windows has one. Well...how come everytime the NT server goes down it takes FOREVER to run autochk, but the Linux box with the untested JFS comes right back up?
Over and over it was that Linux has choices and flexability, and where they couldn't find anything else, they would use "well...Linux doesn't have this Microsoft technology"
I'd love to see a page done like this with the same amount of FUD written from the Linux PoV. Almost every item would have to include "Microsoft does not give you a choice" or "All the choices are additional purchases from third party vendors"
Just cause he runs /. doesn't mean he's not a weiner. Besides...I thought they got married, moving her from girlfriend to fiancee to a finance :)
I'm still trying to figure it out. At first I head all about using .net and web application service providers - kinda what CORBA or DCOM does - run this procedure over there and give me the results.
.net and run it on anyplace that supports .NET - much live Java does.
It also sounds like you can write something in a language as long as it does nothing other than pure
So, is it basically Java with DCOM/RPC stuff built in using XML to pass data back and forth?
Amen. But the Barrow Downs were a cool scene I wished they had in there, along with the old forest. It helped to show just how much in-over-their-heads they all were.
translation - we can get some extra dough from the qt5 users while some 12 year old spends an hour making a key generator.
No...that was the "oh..c'mon, no one will still be using this code 20 years from now" that gave us the y2k paranoia.