It doesn't matter where you're from when you commit a crime in the US. If your crime occured in the US, you'll get deported, or picked up when you step off your airplane.
The reason that Dmitri shouldn't have been touched is that he didn't violate the DMCA. Someone else in his company did. Whomever distributed his product is the "criminal." Creating the product occured 100% on Russian soil, and was not a violation of the DMCA. Shipping it/wiring it to the USA was a violation. But Dmitri didn't do that. Since this is criminal law we're talking about, you can only go after the individuals that commit the crime, not some random member of their company.
Unless I'm totally misunderstanding the situation. Maybe Elcomsoft is a two person company, and Dmitri really did send the product to the US. Maybe the "crime" was his presentation, and not distributing their product.
Either way, it's the law that's fucked up, not the fact that it was applied to a foreigner. Being from another country doesn't give you diplomatic immunity. And it shouldn't. The US isn't bad in that regard. If you mail a bomb to Italy, and you live in Greece, you'll get deported, or arrested the next time you travel to Italy. Right?
ATI does business in the US. They are an international company. They are subject to the laws of every nation they do business in.
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My grandma suffers from a number of ailments that restrict her movement. For a while my dad kept suggesting that she get a mac to play around with. My mom's mom got one, and loved using it.
Anyway. My grandma's problem wasn't that she was scared of using a computer. She'd say, "You don't know what you're talking about. I used to *run* a computer. I know all *about* computers. What the hell do I need a computer for?"
She used to be the administrator in charge of the computer for the Grand Rapids Police Department. In the 1950s. Punch cards. Hehe. Old people are funny.
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Pattern matching in the brain occurs at all levels, including some much lower than you're thinking of. Pattern matching is what tells your brain that you're looking at the edge of an object, let alone what that object is.
There are many higher level tasks that we do that become about pattern matching, and the best example are tasks that involve expertise. You become an expert at something when your brain optimizes its storage of the patterns it sees. Chess is a classic example. So is music composition. And spelling. And speech.
Cable internet requires more infrastructure than cable TV. A lot of folks with cable TV will never get cable internet, 'cause the cable co's aren't willing to deliver at a loss.
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Right. But Kasparov was still working as hard as he thought he could, right?
Whatever process it is that humans use to play chess, we're still a pattern matching machine that has to establish good algorithms, and then execute them exhaustively. Those algorithms might not be a move search, but rather a search for the key peices or squares. Grandparent poster decided that since Deep Blue wasn't introspective enough, it's not AI, or it's not interesting, or something. Actually, I'm not sure what his complaint was. So I was trying to illuminate his poorly defined complaint.
Now I'm muddled.
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Um. It seems to me like you could write an O(1) algorithm to determine the real value of a peice of property based on the likelyhood of someone landing there, what the rental costs, how expensive improvements are, how much money everyone has (to determine the length of the game), and who owns what other properties.
It'd be an economics problem, not a computer science problem. It probably wouldn't even be the hardest of economics problems. Not that I've ever taken an econ class. Once you have defined the algorithm to make this determination, monopoly would be solved, there would be no decisions to make, and it would be 100% luck.
What's Hard about Monopoly?
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You could write a computer program that would incorporate exactly that rule, and then it would be able "to determine that 1000000003 is not a sum of two square" by the simple analysis you describe. "Independent" discovery of this rule could also be arranged.
If you think Kasparov doesn't use an "exhaustive computation computation approach to chess" then you don't have a great understanding of how the brain works. We're a great big pattern matching machine. Kasparov has trained his pattern matching machine to take in chess positions and output decent chess moves. He then selects among those decent chess moves based on... exhaustive computation.
If you'd like to arbitrarily choose a definition of intelligence that machines will never be able to attain... pick a different arbitrary definition. The difference between warm fuzzy intelligence and cold computational intelligence... can be engineered. And in this case, it doesn't matter.
You don't need winex for most flash games. You should be able to write a tiny little script that searches for the flash file an opens it in Mozilla.
I was doing QA on some flash games for a while, and it was really neat to see how cross-platform compatible they were. There were zero platform dependent bugs. (Plenty of bugs overall. I work for crappy companies only. It's in the objective on my resume, apparently.)
Thing is, here in Cali, it's routing infrastructure that's broken, not tower coverage.
Back when Cingular and tmobile were the only GSM providers, it was pretty common to get "Emergency Only" coverage. But Cingular and tmobile *shared* *towers*. So if you were getting coverage from the competitor, and not your own provider, it was because they weren't routing your packets properly.
Of course, it happened equally often with both companies, so it's not like you would even switch if you could.
Now with AT&T GSM coverage in the area, we tmobile users see "Emergency Coverage Only" all the time, but that's 'cause AT&T has many more towers, and they really are better. Now if only they'd buy Voicestream... nah.
Agree to do the work, make no mention of a fee. Go to the building, fix the LAN, and on your way out, trip over a cable.
Sue the billy blue jeepers out of your ex employer.
There's no way they'll have insurance for it. There's a reason companies don't request work from non-contracted non-employees. You'll get paid in a settlement, or you'll get paid 10 years from now after the company is bankrupt.
They might do this already for jet pilots. With the engine noise of your own jet, there's no way in hell you'd hear another plane, even if it were two feet away from your cockpit.
Some poster on/. said they simulate the sound of nearby objects for exactly this purpose.
The UI innovation *I* want is for this guy to start talking to these guys and get me a complete computer interface that fits in my hand. It'd beat the hell out of a blackberry...
Windows 2000's graphics may be faster than KDE's. I wouldn't know. But Quartz isn't. At least not 'till QuartzGL. And would you say Windows 2000's gui is faster than BlackBox? I can't stand Linux's gui toolkits either, but that's unrelated to X.
You're right. I should have qualified: X Windows isn't slow due to it's Client/Server architecture. X windows isn't slower than Quartz.
As for calling him a troll, I could be wrong. Saying "X Windows needs to be improved drastically" is something I could agree with. Saying "X Windows should be abandoned" begs all kinds of obvious responses... but maybe troll was too much. But since I wasn't moderating, it didn't matter. I never mod down for any reason.
A Cult has several of the following properties: 1) A single living leader that dictates cultmember's behavior. 2) Members must give worldly posessions. 3) Members must give up contact with outside friends and family. 4) Members must constrain their emotions (any number of ways). etc.
Several large religions have some of these traits, and others, that make a cult a cult. Many religious *begin* as cults, but lose cult like traits as time goes by and they become more mainstream. Often this transition occurs immediately if the cult survives its leader's death. But for people that care about these things (shrinks), large "religions" with cult-like traits are recognized, and considered just as damaging as small cult religions.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm not an OSS person. I run Mac OS X, and love it.
On the rare occasion that I play with Linux, there is a huge increase in GUI speed. And it's a lot uglier.
Are there problems with X Windows? Sure. Is it the client/server architecture? No. Is it the speed? No. Not if you think Mac OS X is better: Aqua is client/server *and* it's slower.
The core of his argument... doesn't exist. Pick something I've said and tell me it's wrong.
User #5562? Aren't you a little old to be trolling? Have you played with Linux since you got your account on/.? X windows *isn't* slow. It's got a number of issues, but speed doesn't even loom large among them. The reason other recent OSes haven't gone with X windows is either because they don't want open source, they want other *features*, or they don't want to deal with maintaining a fork that huge.
Hell. Mac OS X's windowing environment *does* have hooks for Client/Server operation. They went with something else because they wanted to be like display postscript. And it helps them charge $$ for their OS.
And it's slower than X anyway... what was your point?
The joke originated for me with my little brother. He would put on a Hawaiian shirt, wear a camera around his neck, get blitzed in bars in Vancouver, and embrace strangers while shouting in a vaguely eastern European accent, "I love Canadia!" and "You have such beautiful peoples and faces! Yesterday I see the Bell of Liberty!!!" etc.
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The greens act as an umbrella for all kinds of lunatics, though. Sometimes the higher ups in the Green party propose really upsetting ideas, as well. The one that leapt to mind was Nader's desire to use taxes to go after poluters. It was as if he explicitly desired to avoid the principle of being "innocent until proven guilty." I'm all for tougher polution laws, and I'm all for going after criminals... but you have to do it in court. I want someone who respects our constitution better than that.
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It doesn't matter where you're from when you commit a crime in the US. If your crime occured in the US, you'll get deported, or picked up when you step off your airplane.
The reason that Dmitri shouldn't have been touched is that he didn't violate the DMCA. Someone else in his company did. Whomever distributed his product is the "criminal." Creating the product occured 100% on Russian soil, and was not a violation of the DMCA. Shipping it/wiring it to the USA was a violation. But Dmitri didn't do that. Since this is criminal law we're talking about, you can only go after the individuals that commit the crime, not some random member of their company.
Unless I'm totally misunderstanding the situation. Maybe Elcomsoft is a two person company, and Dmitri really did send the product to the US. Maybe the "crime" was his presentation, and not distributing their product.
Either way, it's the law that's fucked up, not the fact that it was applied to a foreigner. Being from another country doesn't give you diplomatic immunity. And it shouldn't. The US isn't bad in that regard. If you mail a bomb to Italy, and you live in Greece, you'll get deported, or arrested the next time you travel to Italy. Right?
ATI does business in the US. They are an international company. They are subject to the laws of every nation they do business in.
My grandma suffers from a number of ailments that restrict her movement. For a while my dad kept suggesting that she get a mac to play around with. My mom's mom got one, and loved using it.
Anyway. My grandma's problem wasn't that she was scared of using a computer. She'd say, "You don't know what you're talking about. I used to *run* a computer. I know all *about* computers. What the hell do I need a computer for?"
She used to be the administrator in charge of the computer for the Grand Rapids Police Department. In the 1950s. Punch cards. Hehe. Old people are funny.
Pattern matching in the brain occurs at all levels, including some much lower than you're thinking of. Pattern matching is what tells your brain that you're looking at the edge of an object, let alone what that object is.
There are many higher level tasks that we do that become about pattern matching, and the best example are tasks that involve expertise. You become an expert at something when your brain optimizes its storage of the patterns it sees. Chess is a classic example. So is music composition. And spelling. And speech.
Cable internet requires more infrastructure than cable TV. A lot of folks with cable TV will never get cable internet, 'cause the cable co's aren't willing to deliver at a loss.
Right. But Kasparov was still working as hard as he thought he could, right?
Whatever process it is that humans use to play chess, we're still a pattern matching machine that has to establish good algorithms, and then execute them exhaustively. Those algorithms might not be a move search, but rather a search for the key peices or squares. Grandparent poster decided that since Deep Blue wasn't introspective enough, it's not AI, or it's not interesting, or something. Actually, I'm not sure what his complaint was. So I was trying to illuminate his poorly defined complaint.
Now I'm muddled.
Um. It seems to me like you could write an O(1) algorithm to determine the real value of a peice of property based on the likelyhood of someone landing there, what the rental costs, how expensive improvements are, how much money everyone has (to determine the length of the game), and who owns what other properties.
It'd be an economics problem, not a computer science problem. It probably wouldn't even be the hardest of economics problems. Not that I've ever taken an econ class. Once you have defined the algorithm to make this determination, monopoly would be solved, there would be no decisions to make, and it would be 100% luck.
What's Hard about Monopoly?
You could write a computer program that would incorporate exactly that rule, and then it would be able "to determine that 1000000003 is not a sum of two square" by the simple analysis you describe. "Independent" discovery of this rule could also be arranged.
If you think Kasparov doesn't use an "exhaustive computation computation approach to chess" then you don't have a great understanding of how the brain works. We're a great big pattern matching machine. Kasparov has trained his pattern matching machine to take in chess positions and output decent chess moves. He then selects among those decent chess moves based on... exhaustive computation.
If you'd like to arbitrarily choose a definition of intelligence that machines will never be able to attain... pick a different arbitrary definition. The difference between warm fuzzy intelligence and cold computational intelligence... can be engineered. And in this case, it doesn't matter.
This is not a troll. Whether or not you disagree with it.
teamhasnoi... picking fights again?
It's the SimFish Anthem!
You don't need winex for most flash games. You should be able to write a tiny little script that searches for the flash file an opens it in Mozilla.
I was doing QA on some flash games for a while, and it was really neat to see how cross-platform compatible they were. There were zero platform dependent bugs. (Plenty of bugs overall. I work for crappy companies only. It's in the objective on my resume, apparently.)
Keeping my cell number is more important to me than the contract penalty. I'd switch providers for better coverage and pay the $200.
Of course, best would be reasonable rates w/o contracts, and you still get to keep your number, but whatever.
Thing is, here in Cali, it's routing infrastructure that's broken, not tower coverage.
Back when Cingular and tmobile were the only GSM providers, it was pretty common to get "Emergency Only" coverage. But Cingular and tmobile *shared* *towers*. So if you were getting coverage from the competitor, and not your own provider, it was because they weren't routing your packets properly.
Of course, it happened equally often with both companies, so it's not like you would even switch if you could.
Now with AT&T GSM coverage in the area, we tmobile users see "Emergency Coverage Only" all the time, but that's 'cause AT&T has many more towers, and they really are better. Now if only they'd buy Voicestream... nah.
Agree to do the work, make no mention of a fee. Go to the building, fix the LAN, and on your way out, trip over a cable.
Sue the billy blue jeepers out of your ex employer.
There's no way they'll have insurance for it. There's a reason companies don't request work from non-contracted non-employees. You'll get paid in a settlement, or you'll get paid 10 years from now after the company is bankrupt.
They might do this already for jet pilots. With the engine noise of your own jet, there's no way in hell you'd hear another plane, even if it were two feet away from your cockpit.
/. said they simulate the sound of nearby objects for exactly this purpose.
Some poster on
The UI innovation *I* want is for this guy to start talking to these guys and get me a complete computer interface that fits in my hand. It'd beat the hell out of a blackberry...
Windows 2000's graphics may be faster than KDE's. I wouldn't know. But Quartz isn't. At least not 'till QuartzGL. And would you say Windows 2000's gui is faster than BlackBox? I can't stand Linux's gui toolkits either, but that's unrelated to X.
You're right. I should have qualified: X Windows isn't slow due to it's Client/Server architecture. X windows isn't slower than Quartz.
As for calling him a troll, I could be wrong. Saying "X Windows needs to be improved drastically" is something I could agree with. Saying "X Windows should be abandoned" begs all kinds of obvious responses... but maybe troll was too much. But since I wasn't moderating, it didn't matter. I never mod down for any reason.
Just for fun. For folks that study these things:
A Cult has several of the following properties:
1) A single living leader that dictates cultmember's behavior.
2) Members must give worldly posessions.
3) Members must give up contact with outside friends and family.
4) Members must constrain their emotions (any number of ways).
etc.
Several large religions have some of these traits, and others, that make a cult a cult. Many religious *begin* as cults, but lose cult like traits as time goes by and they become more mainstream. Often this transition occurs immediately if the cult survives its leader's death. But for people that care about these things (shrinks), large "religions" with cult-like traits are recognized, and considered just as damaging as small cult religions.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm not an OSS person. I run Mac OS X, and love it.
On the rare occasion that I play with Linux, there is a huge increase in GUI speed. And it's a lot uglier.
Are there problems with X Windows? Sure. Is it the client/server architecture? No. Is it the speed? No. Not if you think Mac OS X is better: Aqua is client/server *and* it's slower.
The core of his argument... doesn't exist. Pick something I've said and tell me it's wrong.
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/.? X windows *isn't* slow. It's got a number of issues, but speed doesn't even loom large among them. The reason other recent OSes haven't gone with X windows is either because they don't want open source, they want other *features*, or they don't want to deal with maintaining a fork that huge.
User #5562? Aren't you a little old to be trolling? Have you played with Linux since you got your account on
Hell. Mac OS X's windowing environment *does* have hooks for Client/Server operation. They went with something else because they wanted to be like display postscript. And it helps them charge $$ for their OS.
And it's slower than X anyway... what was your point?
The joke originated for me with my little brother. He would put on a Hawaiian shirt, wear a camera around his neck, get blitzed in bars in Vancouver, and embrace strangers while shouting in a vaguely eastern European accent, "I love Canadia!" and "You have such beautiful peoples and faces! Yesterday I see the Bell of Liberty!!!" etc.
That kid's a damn genius...
In British Columbia (A Canadian Province),
What is this "Canadia" you speak of?
I don't know the specifics. All I got was a sound bite. It upset me. I might not be completely fair in my judgment.
Sucked. I'm done.
FTC Sues Six in Spam Suit Soiree.
The greens act as an umbrella for all kinds of lunatics, though. Sometimes the higher ups in the Green party propose really upsetting ideas, as well. The one that leapt to mind was Nader's desire to use taxes to go after poluters. It was as if he explicitly desired to avoid the principle of being "innocent until proven guilty." I'm all for tougher polution laws, and I'm all for going after criminals... but you have to do it in court. I want someone who respects our constitution better than that.