Looking at RCP it's currently within 2m. That's basically a dead heat. I guess we had a hard time choosing who we hated more as neither are a clear winner with the populous. I think many votes were cast against candidates and not for candidates.
Personally, I voted policy over personality. (not that I agree down the line with either, just ones a tad closer to what I believe in, too bad they don't seem to believe in it once in office)
Seriously this election would of been better represented by the WWE.
(really loud, obnoxious announcer) "November 8th, 2016, the match of the century is upon us! See the ultimate demonic duel of damnation!" "The Creamsicle Charlatan vs. The Pantsuited Enabler no holds barred cage match. This is to the finish folks, no tag outs, no substitutions! Get your ballots now!" It fits WWE better than it fits our ballots....
Kinda drifted off-topic there, damn good micro-brew. That's my story and I'm sticking with it...
Why the fuck do that way. It's an issue at every election. Every. Single. One. They need to do away with voting machines, period.
Here in Washington (not DC, the other one, no we are not part of Canada...) we do paper ballots. Most are mailed out and we drop them in any of 100's of boxes. There are permanent ones at libraries and the courthouse and hundreds of temporary ones during a general election. We have a very strict accounting system overlooked by a bi-partisan pollsters at every step. The mailed ballot has an outer envelope that identifies the voter, and an inner yellow security envelope than can have nothing written on it and the ballot enclosed and sealed. After it is received they are electronically separated into districts and initially checked against registration rolls. They are then hand checked against voter rolls as the yellow envelopes are separated. The separated vote then is removed and counted and all votes stored for a period (I'm unsure of how long.). No problems large enough to make national news. A full paper trail. No internet, no machines to fuck up or be fucked with. You can fill a vote out online and print it out. But the vote is only accepted at polling places or in-person drops as they don't have a second security envelope like the mailed ones. Since it never touches the internet, you need physical access to do any fraud. That vastly complicates things compared to a few lines of code.
Sometimes the old fashioned way truly is best.
I don't know how costs compare, but with all the possibility of lawsuits, bad press, recounts and maintenance, I'm guessing it's not an astronomical difference. And I can be fairly confident that the counts are legitimate, as it would take some high-level fraud to cover up a paper trail with so many checks in place.
Never. And this election just proved it. By my completely biased viewpoint, issues were discussed like 1% of the time and the cult of personality vs the brick and what they allegedly did over the last decades made up the other 99%. Personally, I voted policy, not personality. I also voted for the losing side. But I'm not bitter, after all when your candidates only redeeming value is people seem to hate her slightly less. That's not a campaign strategy. That's desperation. It was The Creamsicle Charlatan vs. The Pantsuited Enabler! It should of been on WWE, not our ballots.
Bullshit. If Trump had lost the EC, you would be yelling it was rigged, etc. The system needs work, but the blatant lies, innuendo and dis-proven accusations we hear constantly spouted by ignorant, ill-informed people do nothing at all to advance society. Even when events prove the lies for what they are, some of you just can't let go.
This election was a cult of personality contest between an out-sized ego and a brick.
Romney/Obama debating was as dull as hell because they politely debated policy. Trump/Clinton had very little policy with a lot of name calling and bluster and got record viewership. People care about personality, because they don't understand policy that can't be explained in a ten second sound bite. If that were reversed the first party to figure out the best policies that actually worked for the majority would be unbeatable.
This race has been good in two ways. Donald pulled the Republicans a tad left and both parties just got slapped in the face with the fact that Americans do not feel represented by either party. If the Republicans get complacent or double-down on the alt-right shit because they won this time, they will lose downstream big time. Donald won their nomination by saying fuck off to the party platform and incorporating some of the worst and best of both sides into his own version of Donpublicanism. He essentially became a third-party win as he expounds the core principles of neither side.
Fuck this, beautiful day, I'm off, stoned, rambling on Slashdot, off to the four B's for me!! Buds Beer Bowling Brick-oven pizza....
Well, without the unnecessary crudeness AC, you are correct. The Democrats fielded their weakest, most controversial candidate, SEVERELY underestimated their opponents appeal all in the name of historical precedence. They wanted two historical elections in a row so badly they blinded themselves to just how disliked their candidate was.
Of course, BOTH parties underestimated Mr. Trump. Both parties fielded despicable, dishonest, disliked candidates in a battle royal of accusation and innuendo. The mudslinging was so thick and the candidates both so dirty that it was hard to tell if anything stuck in the political pigpen.
Both parties are ripping apart at the seams. Perhaps a more centrist party will emerge from the smoldering wreckage. One that can field a strong candidate, unlike the current third-parties.
Invest in popcorn. The next four to eight years is going to be interesting.
I do hope President-elect Trump proves me wrong and is a great president. If not, he'll be gone in four years and we try again. Maybe if we can convince Cthulhu to be just a tad more evil....
Ahh, the memories... I lived in a 1960 primer red GMC van in the Bay Area for just short of a year. My employer let me park and use the restrooms after hours (He got a bit of nighttime security out of it), we used memberships at the Y to shower. Unfortunately moved out of the area just as the tech boom really hit due to a personal tragedy. If I could of held onto the house another few years, I would have made a killing.....sigh....
Ah but the partisan AC's prove that they both live in a fucking bubble. Both parties support it. This is one of few things they stand together on! https://www.wired.com/2016/04/senates-draft-encryption-bill-privacy-nightmare/ As for Hillary personally, she has no fucking clue! She rambles inchoerantly because she honestly doesn't know shit. Trump doesn't know shit either. Here's there stances: http://www.zdnet.com/article/tech-policy-campaign-2016-where-candidates-stand-encryption/ It's CONGRESS we have to worry about people, the fucking figureheads are clueless!
Which is still preferable to the opposing camp, who use:
***Important Notice*** Pedantic people may wish to avoid reading the following as is contains: a. Grammatical errors b. No punctuation c. Misspellings We wouldn't wish to be responsible for your next anal panic attack. ***We now return you to your regularly scheduled post***
ALL FUCKING CAPS ALL THE TIME WITH NO PUNCTUATION EXCEPT !!!!!! CAUSE THERE IDEAS IS MORE IMPOTENT THAN YERS!!!!!
Either one will survive just fine, after all, it's Gods doing. Let me enlighten you with a Divine Tale!
And Gabriel walked into Gods office and said " I have the initial results of the Anti-Christ trial run." "Oh good," said God, "please continue!" "Well, as predicted, just invoking you or the kids name got most of the low intelligence and Evangelical crowd to fall in line, however the more secular and educated amongst them tended to fall in line with AC Mark II. We also noted an equally large percentage that didn't fall in line with either but are still expected to cast a vote for one or the other. And we do have a few outliers that went with that little soiree that Cthulhu and Lucifer likes to put on every four years, and they did get some pretty amusing hosts this year as well, after all we told them nobody reasonable this year for the trial run" "Hmmm," said God, "perhaps it's still too early for the apocolypse, we'll just give em a four year taste of what's coming as a warning until we find a way to combine the Mark I and Mark II Anti-Christs into a single Mark III model." "Do you mind if the Arch-Angel has a bit of fun with the debates and resulting chaos of the inaugeration?" "Oh, not at all," replied God, "I wouldn't miss it for anything!"
I find that a tad worrisome. Being overly cocky about your chances could lead to an undoing . Romney was projected to win, and by a landslide, and we all know how that turned out.
Hillary has a lot of baggage, that baggage (I realize largely unproven, or should I say Yuuugely unproven) and that baggage means more to some (ok, a LOT of) people than accomplishments and experience. And the drawback of the information age is misinformation has never been easier to spread.
She should not make the mistake of believing she's got it in the bag, she is disliked nearly as much as Trump. I think more are voting against a candidate than are voting for a candidate. Dangerous.
Please link to a source that says JFK publicly bragged about his affairs or publicly bragged about groping women, or hell, anything else. A consensual affair is not equitable to publicly bragging about assault.
If this is a simulation, the storytelling is badly plotted with way too many over the top characters, unlikely events, plot holes, uninteresting and plainly boring actors, overly detailed and difficult crafting system and....... oh shit, we are in someone else's AAA video game!!!!!
Actually I think he is referring to this when he said read atomic rockets. Instant armchair physicist. It is quite interesting and written so that I could follow at least the concepts, although I lack the math to verify its accuracy: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/engines.php I was introduced to it a few days ago after buying the video game Children of a Dead Earth. A space battle game using n-body physics. He certainly could of been more eloquent in stating his case, quite unnecessary. As you replied to him, I thought you might find the site of interest.
You have way too much time on your hands. Please take up masturbation, you'll find it much more relaxing and you won't have as much time to debase yourself.
Hehehe, yeah, taking that concept back a few years to 1999, my (at the time) 11 year old son and I were playing the game Driver that had just come out. I got the same reaction from him during a cutscene that showed Tanner using a rotary phone. I had to explain what he was doing as my son had never seen one before. After that I'm certain he believes we made fire with sticks and wrote on clay tablets in school.
Yep, L.A. was really bad in the sixties and seventies. My family went through there on our way to visit grandparents that lived in Palm Springs. The air was a yellowish brown and was quite difficult for my mother at the time.
I've been there many times since and it has improved dramatically.
I remember seeing a newspaper article years ago that showed air filters from the city monitoring stations from the seventies that were very dark comparing them to ones in the late nineties that were quite clean in comparison.
It can still get quite smoggy, but nothing like when I was a kid. With more population it would of been a lot like modern Beijing. We used to joke "What happens when the smog over Los Angeles clears? UCLA!"
I fear those growing up since that time who want to eliminate EPA regulations fail to realize what it was like before those regulations existed. After all, it's never been that bad for them, so obviously those regulations are just an impediment to business and serve no real purpose. After all, L.A. was never as bad as Beijing is now, so the regulations must be overreaction by the government.
And while some regulations are overreactions, overall, they have helped more than harmed. I rather like breathing.
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Looking at RCP it's currently within 2m. That's basically a dead heat. I guess we had a hard time choosing who we hated more as neither are a clear winner with the populous. I think many votes were cast against candidates and not for candidates.
Personally, I voted policy over personality. (not that I agree down the line with either, just ones a tad closer to what I believe in, too bad they don't seem to believe in it once in office)
Seriously this election would of been better represented by the WWE.
(really loud, obnoxious announcer)
"November 8th, 2016, the match of the century is upon us! See the ultimate demonic duel of damnation!"
"The Creamsicle Charlatan vs. The Pantsuited Enabler no holds barred cage match. This is to the finish folks, no tag outs, no substitutions! Get your ballots now!"
It fits WWE better than it fits our ballots....
Kinda drifted off-topic there, damn good micro-brew. That's my story and I'm sticking with it...
Why the fuck do that way. It's an issue at every election. Every. Single. One.
They need to do away with voting machines, period.
Here in Washington (not DC, the other one, no we are not part of Canada...) we do paper ballots. Most are mailed out and we drop them in any of 100's of boxes. There are permanent ones at libraries and the courthouse and hundreds of temporary ones during a general election.
We have a very strict accounting system overlooked by a bi-partisan pollsters at every step.
The mailed ballot has an outer envelope that identifies the voter, and an inner yellow security envelope than can have nothing written on it and the ballot enclosed and sealed.
After it is received they are electronically separated into districts and initially checked against registration rolls. They are then hand checked against voter rolls as the yellow envelopes are separated.
The separated vote then is removed and counted and all votes stored for a period (I'm unsure of how long.).
No problems large enough to make national news. A full paper trail. No internet, no machines to fuck up or be fucked with.
You can fill a vote out online and print it out. But the vote is only accepted at polling places or in-person drops as they don't have a second security envelope like the mailed ones.
Since it never touches the internet, you need physical access to do any fraud. That vastly complicates things compared to a few lines of code.
Sometimes the old fashioned way truly is best.
I don't know how costs compare, but with all the possibility of lawsuits, bad press, recounts and maintenance, I'm guessing it's not an astronomical difference. And I can be fairly confident that the counts are legitimate, as it would take some high-level fraud to cover up a paper trail with so many checks in place.
Never. And this election just proved it.
By my completely biased viewpoint, issues were discussed like 1% of the time and the cult of personality vs the brick and what they allegedly did over the last decades made up the other 99%.
Personally, I voted policy, not personality.
I also voted for the losing side. But I'm not bitter, after all when your candidates only redeeming value is people seem to hate her slightly less. That's not a campaign strategy. That's desperation.
It was The Creamsicle Charlatan vs. The Pantsuited Enabler!
It should of been on WWE, not our ballots.
Even when they win, it's still non-stop conspiracy theories.
The electorate maps looked like my Corvette by the end of the night...bright red!
Bullshit.
If Trump had lost the EC, you would be yelling it was rigged, etc.
The system needs work, but the blatant lies, innuendo and dis-proven accusations we hear constantly spouted by ignorant, ill-informed people do nothing at all to advance society.
Even when events prove the lies for what they are, some of you just can't let go.
This election was a cult of personality contest between an out-sized ego and a brick.
Romney/Obama debating was as dull as hell because they politely debated policy. Trump/Clinton had very little policy with a lot of name calling and bluster and got record viewership.
People care about personality, because they don't understand policy that can't be explained in a ten second sound bite. If that were reversed the first party to figure out the best policies that actually worked for the majority would be unbeatable.
This race has been good in two ways. Donald pulled the Republicans a tad left and both parties just got slapped in the face with the fact that Americans do not feel represented by either party. If the Republicans get complacent or double-down on the alt-right shit because they won this time, they will lose downstream big time. Donald won their nomination by saying fuck off to the party platform and incorporating some of the worst and best of both sides into his own version of Donpublicanism. He essentially became a third-party win as he expounds the core principles of neither side.
Fuck this, beautiful day, I'm off, stoned, rambling on Slashdot, off to the four B's for me!!
Buds
Beer
Bowling
Brick-oven pizza....
Well, without the unnecessary crudeness AC, you are correct. The Democrats fielded their weakest, most controversial candidate, SEVERELY underestimated their opponents appeal all in the name of historical precedence. They wanted two historical elections in a row so badly they blinded themselves to just how disliked their candidate was.
Of course, BOTH parties underestimated Mr. Trump. Both parties fielded despicable, dishonest, disliked candidates in a battle royal of accusation and innuendo. The mudslinging was so thick and the candidates both so dirty that it was hard to tell if anything stuck in the political pigpen.
Both parties are ripping apart at the seams. Perhaps a more centrist party will emerge from the smoldering wreckage. One that can field a strong candidate, unlike the current third-parties.
Invest in popcorn. The next four to eight years is going to be interesting.
I do hope President-elect Trump proves me wrong and is a great president. If not, he'll be gone in four years and we try again. Maybe if we can convince Cthulhu to be just a tad more evil....
The obvious name should be BOB!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120913/quotes
That's not Donald.
Donald would be saying:
"See! It's crooked! Crooked Sun! Just look at it! It's crooked!"
Ahh, the memories...
I lived in a 1960 primer red GMC van in the Bay Area for just short of a year. My employer let me park and use the restrooms after hours (He got a bit of nighttime security out of it), we used memberships at the Y to shower.
Unfortunately moved out of the area just as the tech boom really hit due to a personal tragedy.
If I could of held onto the house another few years, I would have made a killing.....sigh....
An idea so great, for a moment, it was a game on Steam Greenlight!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=398745942
Ah but the partisan AC's prove that they both live in a fucking bubble.
Both parties support it. This is one of few things they stand together on!
https://www.wired.com/2016/04/senates-draft-encryption-bill-privacy-nightmare/
As for Hillary personally, she has no fucking clue! She rambles inchoerantly because she honestly doesn't know shit.
Trump doesn't know shit either.
Here's there stances:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/tech-policy-campaign-2016-where-candidates-stand-encryption/
It's CONGRESS we have to worry about people, the fucking figureheads are clueless!
Didn't you see GATTACA? Space Jobs!!!! /s
Which is still preferable to the opposing camp, who use:
***Important Notice***
Pedantic people may wish to avoid reading the following as is contains:
a. Grammatical errors
b. No punctuation
c. Misspellings
We wouldn't wish to be responsible for your next anal panic attack.
***We now return you to your regularly scheduled post***
ALL FUCKING CAPS ALL THE TIME WITH NO PUNCTUATION EXCEPT !!!!!! CAUSE THERE IDEAS IS MORE IMPOTENT THAN YERS!!!!!
"a new party with better ideas and less beholden to special interests."
We can only hope.
Either one will survive just fine, after all, it's Gods doing. Let me enlighten you with a Divine Tale!
And Gabriel walked into Gods office and said " I have the initial results of the Anti-Christ trial run."
"Oh good," said God, "please continue!"
"Well, as predicted, just invoking you or the kids name got most of the low intelligence and Evangelical crowd to fall in line, however the more secular and educated amongst them tended to fall in line with AC Mark II. We also noted an equally large percentage that didn't fall in line with either but are still expected to cast a vote for one or the other. And we do have a few outliers that went with that little soiree that Cthulhu and Lucifer likes to put on every four years, and they did get some pretty amusing hosts this year as well, after all we told them nobody reasonable this year for the trial run"
"Hmmm," said God, "perhaps it's still too early for the apocolypse, we'll just give em a four year taste of what's coming as a warning until we find a way to combine the Mark I and Mark II Anti-Christs into a single Mark III model."
"Do you mind if the Arch-Angel has a bit of fun with the debates and resulting chaos of the inaugeration?"
"Oh, not at all," replied God, "I wouldn't miss it for anything!"
I find that a tad worrisome. Being overly cocky about your chances could lead to an undoing . Romney was projected to win, and by a landslide, and we all know how that turned out.
Hillary has a lot of baggage, that baggage (I realize largely unproven, or should I say Yuuugely unproven) and that baggage means more to some (ok, a LOT of) people than accomplishments and experience. And the drawback of the information age is misinformation has never been easier to spread.
She should not make the mistake of believing she's got it in the bag, she is disliked nearly as much as Trump. I think more are voting against a candidate than are voting for a candidate. Dangerous.
Please link to a source that says JFK publicly bragged about his affairs or publicly bragged about groping women, or hell, anything else.
A consensual affair is not equitable to publicly bragging about assault.
Man, you owe me a keyboard. There's Dr. Pepper all over the place and my nose hurts.
Shit, it's not covered on my insurance either!
If you're rich, you get to be crazy without meds or getting locked up. Well you still get the meds, but you get to choose them...
If this is a simulation, the storytelling is badly plotted with way too many over the top characters, unlikely events, plot holes, uninteresting and plainly boring actors, overly detailed and difficult crafting system and....... oh shit, we are in someone else's AAA video game!!!!!
I agree! (see sig)
Actually I think he is referring to this when he said read atomic rockets. Instant armchair physicist. It is quite interesting and written so that I could follow at least the concepts, although I lack the math to verify its accuracy:
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/engines.php
I was introduced to it a few days ago after buying the video game Children of a Dead Earth. A space battle game using n-body physics.
He certainly could of been more eloquent in stating his case, quite unnecessary. As you replied to him, I thought you might find the site of interest.
You have way too much time on your hands. Please take up masturbation, you'll find it much more relaxing and you won't have as much time to debase yourself.
Hehehe, yeah, taking that concept back a few years to 1999, my (at the time) 11 year old son and I were playing the game Driver that had just come out.
I got the same reaction from him during a cutscene that showed Tanner using a rotary phone. I had to explain what he was doing as my son had never seen one before.
After that I'm certain he believes we made fire with sticks and wrote on clay tablets in school.
Yep, L.A. was really bad in the sixties and seventies. My family went through there on our way to visit grandparents that lived in Palm Springs. The air was a yellowish brown and was quite difficult for my mother at the time.
I've been there many times since and it has improved dramatically.
I remember seeing a newspaper article years ago that showed air filters from the city monitoring stations from the seventies that were very dark comparing them to ones in the late nineties that were quite clean in comparison.
It can still get quite smoggy, but nothing like when I was a kid. With more population it would of been a lot like modern Beijing. We used to joke "What happens when the smog over Los Angeles clears? UCLA!"
I fear those growing up since that time who want to eliminate EPA regulations fail to realize what it was like before those regulations existed. After all, it's never been that bad for them, so obviously those regulations are just an impediment to business and serve no real purpose. After all, L.A. was never as bad as Beijing is now, so the regulations must be overreaction by the government.
And while some regulations are overreactions, overall, they have helped more than harmed. I rather like breathing.