So Gnome is like windows in that it tries to keep old bit of code comptatible no matter how painful it is, while KDE is happy to break things to get them right?
It's one thing to be nice, it's another to be as nice as you can be to the point where you are making a special effort and have them think it's completely genuine.
Correct, at the cost of it breaking all the time, it's an ugly hack which they probably shouldn't have bothered with, do what they do at your own risk! The difference between them and MS, besides MS being a monopoly was the intent with which APIs were made private or not.
I don't care how smart you are, or what your history is, if it's a file system I would want it very well tested before I trust it with any of my data. To move from the point of "Btrfs is not suitable for any uses other than benchmarking and review" to I'll rely on it for my company's primary server will be at least a million hours worth of real world use, after the code is finished.
I don't think he meant there isn't a place for the vaccine, but why vaccinate kids when it's only when they're adults who haven't had it before who need to be worried? Just vaccinate people who haven't been infected by a age of x. Although I don't know much about the shingles.
I believe they don't give you the failure type because it's unlikely that they even know. They're known for not removing dead servers from a rack until there have been enough dead ones on that rack to justify removing them..
How many place do you know would knowingly keep a faulty HDD in production for 8 months as it didn't matter when it actually died? At best they will collect the faulty HDDs for a replacement under warranty.
I know nothing about that lake so I looked it up and it's an awful lot more than 20k acres, here it says that it's 82,100 square kilometers - http://www.great-lakes.net/lakes/ref/supfact.html which is 20 million acres, you were you off by 3 orders of magnitude, so we need 10% of the lake to provide all the fuel used in the US by your calculation.
So all the work for the X41 was done by the time the PC division was actually sold off, but not before they agreed to sell it. I still say the X41 was an IBM model. So if it was a bad design, it would've had nothing to do with Lenovo management.
The last version of Illustrator I looked at used the PDF standard for its files, so no surprises that it supports both. Older version of Illustrator did use a different file format as far as I know.
Thanks for clearing that up, the key points on why I believed trusted computing to be harmless was how I couldn't see it being forced upon us. I still believe that things can't be as bad as you fear for the following reasons:
* There will continue to be a large group of users and developers who will use and develop untrusted documents and software. As long as they exist people will
* People with new copies of the software must be able to exchange documents with old versions, MS had bad support for Office 95 documents in Office 97, they had to fix that and we haven't had major problems since. If 99% of the population can't open your emails then it's obvious who has the faulty email client. Unless they get over 90% before they change the default to secure clients only, almost no one will believe I have the broken client.
* Media player disabled DRM by default on new WMA files, there must've had a good reason for that, I assume it's because enough people complained about it.
* Browser lock in appears to be on the decline.
* Finally, because it's only a matter of time before stories about people being locked out of their wedding photos/old love letters/company payroll system hit the news. I expect to be able to hold out against the worst of it until the that happens and the tide turns.
I had a quick look at the wikipedia article, it seems interesting, it would've saved us some time going over just what trusted computing is, but it doesn't address all the points we've raised. I'll think about it some more.
Well written reply, it's a shame I don't have the time for much further discussion, the key reason I'm not worried about what the US does in trying to enforce the trusted computing environment is most of the computers are built in Asia, better still they don't all trust each other, and so as long as they continue to manufacture our computers, I will continue to be able to run new software on new hardware. If trusted computing adds a dollar to the cost of a computer, I'm sure there will continue to be vendors that will sell computers without it. As for subsidies, once the majority of computers need subsidies, how long can they last?
Speaking of other countries, can you imagine a country like France allowing the US to decide exactly what software is permitted on their networks? What about countries that have already decided to go with open source software? Find me a country that does something that UN for the sake of doing what the UN wants. They all choose to listen when it suits them.
Another point is, most software is written in-house for a company's own use, if everyone who works on such software can sign applications then there is no security, if only a handful can then it might be secure for a while, but there will be a rebellion at the cost. Will they lock down java applets as well? What about excel macros? What about custom ecommerce sites? The public only care about spyware because it makes their computer unusable, they don't care about security. If they did they'll all be using macs.
As for there being nothing on the "freenet" afterwards, what you will have left is everything minus some US sites,the ones I care about will have "international" mirrors, the ones that don't will have free replacements.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but if I am I will have much more pressing matters than worrying about vendor lock in, they would already be in control of what and how I can think.
Calm down, I know what it can do, I know what others are trying to do and what can happen if every machine is required to have it, but do you really think that the whole world has a conspiracy against you?
There are good reasons why the owner can't get at the keys, if the owner could know the keys, how can anything else in the network trust my computer? How can I know that no one else gets access to my keys? If I can see it on my screen, someone else can make a copy of it.
Why would I want them to trust my computer? Perhaps online banking becomes so risky that banks simply refuses to allow unsecured clients, would you have a problem with that? Perhaps you are on an underground p2p system that has been locked down, or you are moving files across the network to your backup system that you haven't visited for a year or so.
Yes some music sites will demand the same type of security as the bank, but they don't have a monopoly on music. Yes commercial software have a chance at getting full control over how people copy their software. You know what? They would be great news for the open source movement. No longer can people crack photoshop if they don't want to pay it, there will be a flood of people into open source development.
As for a completely locked down internet, they can dream, but what's in it for the IT&T companies? Someone will set up a second system which will be unsecured, and it will have the benefit of talking to the rest of the world, maybe you'll need a cheap second computer to deal with the US government sites, but do you think they can convince the rest of the world to use the same system? There's a lot more to the world than just the US, if they choose to cut themselves off from the rest of us saying it's too risky, you'll be missed, but we'll move on and prosper.
As for losing access to your own files, who would be the idiot who encrypted them then? It's not like you can't still use your own software solution.
Umm... and what's so bad about having the ability for almost tamper proof protection of your files? I quite like the idea myself. It's not like anyone is forcing you to use it. And why do I want to get at the keys?
"Might be the thing for business users as it excels in the phone/messaging category."
Well, you know, you can never tell when you need your phone to make a call or to take a message now do you? I think that feature would be useful to some people.
Yes it is hard, that's why they made it compulsary for new homes in my state (NSW, Australia) to do so, http://www.iplan.nsw.gov.au/basix/
From the website -
"From July 2004, NSW leads the Australian states in promoting sustainable residential development. How? Simply by requiring a BASIX Certificate with proposals to build homes.
The BASIX Certificate is proof that your proposal satisfies the NSW Government's targets to reduce the amount of water and energy we use in our homes. To get a certificate, you need to complete a BASIX assessment."
So it means that you need to have insulation, water saving taps, etc.. is that really so bad?
Why use GSM when you can have multiple incompatible "standards" that no one else in the world uses. It "works" for the US, so why can't they pull it of?
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How about IBM's approach? Have the system contact and request a technician directly and charge them for a support contract or call out fee?
So Gnome is like windows in that it tries to keep old bit of code comptatible no matter how painful it is, while KDE is happy to break things to get them right?
It's one thing to be nice, it's another to be as nice as you can be to the point where you are making a special effort and have them think it's completely genuine.
Correct, at the cost of it breaking all the time, it's an ugly hack which they probably shouldn't have bothered with, do what they do at your own risk! The difference between them and MS, besides MS being a monopoly was the intent with which APIs were made private or not.
Of course, after it's feature complete and declared stable then if you must..
I don't care how smart you are, or what your history is, if it's a file system I would want it very well tested before I trust it with any of my data. To move from the point of "Btrfs is not suitable for any uses other than benchmarking and review" to I'll rely on it for my company's primary server will be at least a million hours worth of real world use, after the code is finished.
I don't think he meant there isn't a place for the vaccine, but why vaccinate kids when it's only when they're adults who haven't had it before who need to be worried? Just vaccinate people who haven't been infected by a age of x. Although I don't know much about the shingles.
I believe they don't give you the failure type because it's unlikely that they even know. They're known for not removing dead servers from a rack until there have been enough dead ones on that rack to justify removing them..
How many place do you know would knowingly keep a faulty HDD in production for 8 months as it didn't matter when it actually died? At best they will collect the faulty HDDs for a replacement under warranty.
I know nothing about that lake so I looked it up and it's an awful lot more than 20k acres, here it says that it's 82,100 square kilometers - http://www.great-lakes.net/lakes/ref/supfact.html which is 20 million acres, you were you off by 3 orders of magnitude, so we need 10% of the lake to provide all the fuel used in the US by your calculation.
Here it is - =) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCKGW
Fine, I went and checked -
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Press release for the X41 - April 5, 2005
http://www.lenovo.com/news/us/en/2005/04/x41.html
Lenovo Completes Acquisition of IBM's Personal Computing Division - May 1, 2005
http://www.lenovo.com/news/us/en/2005/05/dayone.h
So all the work for the X41 was done by the time the PC division was actually sold off, but not before they agreed to sell it. I still say the X41 was an IBM model. So if it was a bad design, it would've had nothing to do with Lenovo management.
But the X41 came out when Thinkpads was still IBM... right?
In a company with 300,000+ people, I can imagine there are some bad parts, it does not by any means have a single identity.
The last version of Illustrator I looked at used the PDF standard for its files, so no surprises that it supports both. Older version of Illustrator did use a different file format as far as I know.
* There will continue to be a large group of users and developers who will use and develop untrusted documents and software. As long as they exist people will
* People with new copies of the software must be able to exchange documents with old versions, MS had bad support for Office 95 documents in Office 97, they had to fix that and we haven't had major problems since. If 99% of the population can't open your emails then it's obvious who has the faulty email client. Unless they get over 90% before they change the default to secure clients only, almost no one will believe I have the broken client.
* Media player disabled DRM by default on new WMA files, there must've had a good reason for that, I assume it's because enough people complained about it.
* Browser lock in appears to be on the decline.
* Finally, because it's only a matter of time before stories about people being locked out of their wedding photos/old love letters/company payroll system hit the news. I expect to be able to hold out against the worst of it until the that happens and the tide turns.
I had a quick look at the wikipedia article, it seems interesting, it would've saved us some time going over just what trusted computing is, but it doesn't address all the points we've raised. I'll think about it some more.
Well written reply, it's a shame I don't have the time for much further discussion, the key reason I'm not worried about what the US does in trying to enforce the trusted computing environment is most of the computers are built in Asia, better still they don't all trust each other, and so as long as they continue to manufacture our computers, I will continue to be able to run new software on new hardware. If trusted computing adds a dollar to the cost of a computer, I'm sure there will continue to be vendors that will sell computers without it. As for subsidies, once the majority of computers need subsidies, how long can they last?
Speaking of other countries, can you imagine a country like France allowing the US to decide exactly what software is permitted on their networks? What about countries that have already decided to go with open source software? Find me a country that does something that UN for the sake of doing what the UN wants. They all choose to listen when it suits them.
Another point is, most software is written in-house for a company's own use, if everyone who works on such software can sign applications then there is no security, if only a handful can then it might be secure for a while, but there will be a rebellion at the cost. Will they lock down java applets as well? What about excel macros? What about custom ecommerce sites? The public only care about spyware because it makes their computer unusable, they don't care about security. If they did they'll all be using macs.
As for there being nothing on the "freenet" afterwards, what you will have left is everything minus some US sites,the ones I care about will have "international" mirrors, the ones that don't will have free replacements.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but if I am I will have much more pressing matters than worrying about vendor lock in, they would already be in control of what and how I can think.
Calm down, I know what it can do, I know what others are trying to do and what can happen if every machine is required to have it, but do you really think that the whole world has a conspiracy against you?
There are good reasons why the owner can't get at the keys, if the owner could know the keys, how can anything else in the network trust my computer? How can I know that no one else gets access to my keys? If I can see it on my screen, someone else can make a copy of it.
Why would I want them to trust my computer? Perhaps online banking becomes so risky that banks simply refuses to allow unsecured clients, would you have a problem with that? Perhaps you are on an underground p2p system that has been locked down, or you are moving files across the network to your backup system that you haven't visited for a year or so.
Yes some music sites will demand the same type of security as the bank, but they don't have a monopoly on music. Yes commercial software have a chance at getting full control over how people copy their software. You know what? They would be great news for the open source movement. No longer can people crack photoshop if they don't want to pay it, there will be a flood of people into open source development.
As for a completely locked down internet, they can dream, but what's in it for the IT&T companies? Someone will set up a second system which will be unsecured, and it will have the benefit of talking to the rest of the world, maybe you'll need a cheap second computer to deal with the US government sites, but do you think they can convince the rest of the world to use the same system? There's a lot more to the world than just the US, if they choose to cut themselves off from the rest of us saying it's too risky, you'll be missed, but we'll move on and prosper.
As for losing access to your own files, who would be the idiot who encrypted them then? It's not like you can't still use your own software solution.
There's software to remap another key to act as the windows key from IBM's website, I used my right alt as the windows key.
Umm... and what's so bad about having the ability for almost tamper proof protection of your files? I quite like the idea myself. It's not like anyone is forcing you to use it. And why do I want to get at the keys?
Well here it's actually illegal to tape the show off TV using a VCR, not that anyone has ever been charged as a result.
Not on the G5 it doesn't. That required Virtual PC to be rewritten.
"Might be the thing for business users as it excels in the phone/messaging category."
Well, you know, you can never tell when you need your phone to make a call or to take a message now do you? I think that feature would be useful to some people.
Yes it is hard, that's why they made it compulsary for new homes in my state (NSW, Australia) to do so, http://www.iplan.nsw.gov.au/basix/
From the website -
"From July 2004, NSW leads the Australian states in promoting sustainable residential development. How? Simply by requiring a BASIX Certificate with proposals to build homes.
The BASIX Certificate is proof that your proposal satisfies the NSW Government's targets to reduce the amount of water and energy we use in our homes. To get a certificate, you need to complete a BASIX assessment."
So it means that you need to have insulation, water saving taps, etc.. is that really so bad?
Why use GSM when you can have multiple incompatible "standards" that no one else in the world uses. It "works" for the US, so why can't they pull it of?
The R series are cheap laptops, by IBM standards anyway, nasty plastic things
Have a look at something like the X31 or T41 and you'll find that they can make nice laptops, you just need to pay for it...