Gnome Team: Those people working on all parts of GNOME. Like, um, what did you think I meant?
And, I'm sorry but when somebody from the 'Gnome Team' goes off and says 'hey we're our own company now and we're going to one up GNOME with our own version....' sounds like a fork to me.
Check their page, what mention of their project being part of GNOME do you see?
I didn't see any....nor any mention of it anywhere else....
I'm confused. Their site is pointless. developer.gnome.org has something about their 'friends at eazel.' but nothing else....
Isn't nautilus just another file manager type deal for GNOME ala gmc? I guess I don't see the need for this, really, unless they can do it better and faster than the GNOME team.
*shrug* enlighten us anyone? What exactly are they doing here!?
The Compact Disc. Ferris Beuler (Anyone?). Purple Rain. WHAM! Velcro Shoelaces. Stonewashed Denim. Rambo. Feeeeeed...theeee.wooooorrrrllldd. (sing it with me.) Nibble Magazine. Duck Hunt. Front Wheel Drive. Skittles. Back to the Future. Boomboxes bigger than my car. Grenada. Wine Coolers.
The Mac. Neon Pink and Green clothing. Big Hair. Miami Vice. The Countach. TRON. Oliver North. The Macenzie Bros. Buckwheat T-shirts. The Ayatollah. IRON F*CKING MAIDEN. Top Gun. The Mockingboard. Hi-top Nikes (I OWNED a pair of black and silver Vandals!) And "foreign legion" caps.
Sorry to spew Anti-MS rhetoric out on this, but you CAN'T tell me this doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft & Ford getting in bed together. Didn't anyone see Captain Bill's Comdex keynote where he was showing off his new Windows based computer in the dashboard of that ugly Focus or whatever it's called? It was real clear that there was some kind of FordMS cooperation going on there.
Of course, Fords suck anyhow (*duck*) now I've got an even better reason.
Hadn't heard of this one, but it makes sense. Doesn't GR basically say that the universe has a finite "radius" so-to-speak and that you'll end up back where you started if you could travel long enough. Looks like Hawking's carried that over into the time-dimension as well?
Of course didn't GR also say that in order to end up back where you started it would take an infinite amount of time? (All mathematically speaking of course)
Of course mathematically speaking it's possible for particles with imaginary mass to travel faster than light...*shrug* So if we can write off "imaginary time" at face value, being something "real", we should also be able to write off "imaginary mass" as being something that "is"?
We could have probably done this a few years ago if the SSC in Texas(?) hadn't been axed by Congress....but NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
God forbid we'd put any real money into scientific research when there's so many third world countries needing handouts so their citizens can buy more American cigarettes....so many people who've gone down on the President that need investigating....so many Windows licenses to buy!!!!
Put the budget surplus back into research. Maybe then we wouldn't lose any more Mars probes, blow up any more Delta rockets, and in a few years we'll all be driving Hover-cars with Mr. Fusions(tm) in the back.
Dammit!
Of course if this is what they think it is, this is damn cool. Maybe we can actually figure out a way to reliably produce and detect neutrinos next? Anyone have any links re: the big neutrino detector tanks set up last year?
He means that all firearms have a unique 'rifling' pattern on the inside of the barrel which in turn leaves it's mark on any bullet/slug which goes through it. Ballistics.
and while I couldn't help but thinking 'DAMN this is so cool...' while checking out the graphics, the mechanics, etc. etc....
At the end I'm sitting there going, "this kinda sucks" as I'm doing nothing but running around in circles looking for a weapon or armor or the bot/player I'm running from/towards.
I can see this being fun with 2+ people on 2+ PC's in the same room hurling insults audibly back and forth, etc. etc.
But, DAMMIT, I was hoping the bots would exhibit a little more AI than just running and bouncing about at a faster pace than a human can react to. (at least *this* human.)
I'll wait for the single player version, with any kind of plot, dozens of sweeping, multi-planed, curved-surfaces, fog-covered levels....and lots of ugly nasty beasties hiding behind the next door.
Speaking as one who burned out violently on the multi-player "experience" from spending waaaaay to many hours in front of a dumb terminal playing MUDs about 8 years ago.....
It seemed to be to be nothing more than a bunch of open-source flag-waving and "gee isn't Linux great!" I mean this is probably *the* biggest event in the computing world and 'We've got credit cards?'
I (out of curiosity) watched BG's speech just before I tuned into Linus. I couldn't help but think "Now, that's what we're going to have to do. *Show* what Linux is capable of." Wild Bill up there yanking a server out of the rack and watching the fail-over right there, while garnering yawns from most of you (including myself) probably got more PHB's signed on to W2K than Linus & Maddog's lovefest.
Especially at events such as this. I would've expected a little bit of detail into the advances the 2.4 kernel will bring. A little about supporting the next gen. processors. Maybe a few real-world examples of where Linux is out-doing or replacing NT.... This speech would've been great at say a LUG meeting or a university appearance...but not at a world gathering of *IT business* types.
Instead we get 20 minutes of 'open source is good.' And then 20 minutes of questions like 'How many stuffed penguins do you have.'
Err, um. OK.
World domination? Not if we're ill-prepared to put our 'money where our mouth is.'
And as far as the news from Transmeta? What news? We know no more now than we did before.
There's a reason it's an MIS degree instead of an ISM or SIM or SMI or whatever
Management (or derivatives) is the first word.
Information is 2nd.
Systems is 3rd.
That's pretty much the priority in the mindset of the 'MIS' folks I know.
Management, red-tape, infrastructure, buzzwords, blahblahblah is what these people do. Information? Oh yeah, that's what we're trying to get out. Systems? Yeah, whatever that guy from MS said will do just fine....
If IT/Tech departments *wanted* tech people, they'd come after CS types, instead of MIS folks.
Why else (at least at my Uni.) do you think MIS is a business-school degree instead of an Eng./Tech. one?
Then, um, wouldn't there probably be a 95% chance that'd it'd in run in Linux with the help of our friends in the WINE project?
Granted it's not native....but wouldn't it? anyone? Beuller?
Seems to me the "chicken and egg" thing is going to be present for a while when it comes to stuff like kids games and educational software. The development costs/money brought in on products like this are low as it is, when you've got a minimal user base, and one that tends to gripe whenever somebody wants $$ for their software, it just isn't going to happen.
Of course I could be wrong. It has happened before....
If they were to find that there were some frame-dragging effects, wouldn't this throw a humongous monkey wrench into the whole 'there is no aether' thing?
The way I was taught, *There was no "aether"*
To me, any indication of reference frame dragging would indicate otherwise. Maybe not *exactly* the same thing that the MM experiement "disproves", but still.....
Like the subject says, imagine me going "Hrm..." with a concerned frown.
Is this good? Well, *scratches head*, well, yeah, kinda, I guess....
From a PR standpoint, does anyone else here see the potential for "others" (wink-nudge*cough*) to use this against our beloved penguin?
"Linux is the official OS of the communist-run monolith of China....do you *really* want to use an OS officially sactioned by the largest communist regime in the world? Use *our* OS instead....we're 'made in America.' yadda yadda"
Don't laugh.
On the other hand, this could be good for China itself. Since A. It don't cost nuthin, and B. Runs on older machines quite well, it could introduce "modern computing" into some of the more remote areas, and create a new interest in technology in places where the year is still (for all intensive purps.) 1936 or earlier.
AND, on top of that, an active involvement in an open exchange of ideas such as Linux and open source could open a lot of people's eyes to what the rest of the world is doing, rather than what Chairman whosit says is going on.
Does anyone else think it's strange that this comes soon after this LinuxOne crud? That's my seed for the conspiracy theorists.
Seriously, who's going to have their toaster or whatever on their network? Sure, embed a chip in there with a thermostat that cuts off power to the coils if it gets too hot....a timer that turns 'em on in the morning, but networking it? Kinda reminds me of the guy in with sensors on his toilet to count the flushes. (The "net house")
Don't get me wrong. I wired my house when I built it with 10B-T, More coax than I need and a sweet X-10 capable security system, but the utility of stuff like this escapes me.
Some things, like your TV, VCR, your security system, etc. etc. would probably benefit from having a TCP/IP stack and an OS built into them. I'm surprised most don't already...Same with auto computers, why not have a 10B-T port with a teency OS with a teency web server to report fault-codes, and other fun statistics....
If anything would be useful, it'd probably be some short of short-range wireless network that reports back to a central hub somewhere in your house to report power usage, if it's nearing failure, stuff like that.
Imagine your log files (made up the numbers...smirk)
$cat/var/log/toaster_log
Nov 10 06:30:00 toaster01 (startup): Starting with preset 02, cycle #0032 Nov 10 06:32:47 toaster01 (popup): Toast cycle #0032 ended at 130F after 167 sec. Nov 10 06:32:49 toaster01 (status): Total power usage.004kW/hr, translate: $.003 Nov 10 06:32:51 toaster01 (status): WARNING, coil subsystem nearing end of life cycle, repair recommended (8 cycles remaining.)
Need to be taken out back and kicked in the laurels a few times.
How many domain named are owned by somebody, even seemingly dumb ones, with absolutely no intent of them being used? Just start typing in random words as domain names into whois. Now take those and see who actually has a server at the other end with nslookup and/or ping. It's a little ridiculous. I recently did a bout of checking out possible domain names, and the numbers of domains like this astounded me.
There should be a clause in the NIC agreement:
Use it or lose it. 3 months to get *something* at that domain name (besides a 'coming soon' page from your registrar) or you lose it and your cash. I don't care if it's a web site, a mail server, what have you. *Something* that operates in a useful capacity. (not just a 'ping server' either.)
As far as non-US companies/people registering in the.com,.net domains....is this supposed to happen? Ever since I can remember you're supposed to use the proper suffix, i.e..co.uk,.com.au, etc. So far the.us suffix has been relegated to state governments here.
You can't go to the phone company and say 'I want to buy all the phone numbers from xxx-0012 through xxx-0102', can you? Well I suppose you could, but would they let you? Not unless you pay for the lines to go with it.
Go to the sci-fi section of any bookstore and find me an *original* *well-written* *non-preaching* *non-formula* *untrite* piece of contemporary science fiction. Written in the past year.
All I see is 200 Star Trek novellettes and some other stuff that quite frankly sounds like any episode of any sci-fi show ever made.
Now they're going to kill off Chewie? WTF? What is this, "All My Alien-Children?" Leia marries Han, Luke's shacking up with some Jedi chick from three books ago....yadda yadda. Just write some good original stories and don't mess with my Chewbacca!
Oh well. The books pretty much sucked rocks anyhow. 99% of all sci-fi books suck anymore. They're like bad romance novels or something, coming out about twice a week. At least KJ Anderson's not writing it.
I completely gave up hope on the validity or integrity of any contemporary sci-fi novel when I saw a 'Star Trek: Voyager' and 'X-Men' crossover novel.
I've seen one of these at the local Best Buy, it's really not that large of a set. Maybe stands 3' high from the floor, and only 1/2 of that is screen. Last time I checked they were running around $2.5k or so, which is steep for that small a set, but the picture was damn nice. They also make a 56" unit, but obviously it's much larger.
Personally, I'm going to wait until decent and affordable HD sets start appearing. That AND HD compatible DVD units.
OK, I looked like an idiot there....I'm still half asleep. *snore*
1. Not *all* farmers do this. A lot of 'em do buy seed. A lot of 'em work with seed companies planting new hybrids, etc. etc. But, generally you do set some aside. You can't consistently plant seed from the same crop over and over again as it gets "inbred" as some others have said.
2. This still seems like a move aimed directly toward the big farming companies, though. I'm sure this stuff isn't cheap. The reward vs. cost wouldn't be worth it unless you had thousands of acres of the stuff.
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Gnome Team: Those people working on all parts of GNOME. Like, um, what did you think I meant?
And, I'm sorry but when somebody from the 'Gnome Team' goes off and says 'hey we're our own company now and we're going to one up GNOME with our own version....' sounds like a fork to me.
Check their page, what mention of their project being part of GNOME do you see?
I didn't see any....nor any mention of it anywhere else....
I'm confused. Their site is pointless. developer.gnome.org has something about their 'friends at eazel.' but nothing else....
Isn't nautilus just another file manager type deal for GNOME ala gmc? I guess I don't see the need for this, really, unless they can do it better and faster than the GNOME team.
*shrug* enlighten us anyone?
What exactly are they doing here!?
The Compact Disc.
Ferris Beuler (Anyone?).
Purple Rain.
WHAM!
Velcro Shoelaces.
Stonewashed Denim.
Rambo.
Feeeeeed...theeee.wooooorrrrllldd. (sing it with me.)
Nibble Magazine.
Duck Hunt.
Front Wheel Drive.
Skittles.
Back to the Future.
Boomboxes bigger than my car.
Grenada.
Wine Coolers.
"You don't know. You weren't THERE, man!"
The Mac.
Neon Pink and Green clothing.
Big Hair.
Miami Vice.
The Countach.
TRON.
Oliver North.
The Macenzie Bros.
Buckwheat T-shirts.
The Ayatollah.
IRON F*CKING MAIDEN.
Top Gun.
The Mockingboard.
Hi-top Nikes (I OWNED a pair of black and silver Vandals!)
And "foreign legion" caps.
...as long as it's beige and runs Windows.
Sorry to spew Anti-MS rhetoric out on this, but you CAN'T tell me this doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft & Ford getting in bed together. Didn't anyone see Captain Bill's Comdex keynote where he was showing off his new Windows based computer in the dashboard of that ugly Focus or whatever it's called? It was real clear that there was some kind of FordMS cooperation going on there.
Of course, Fords suck anyhow (*duck*) now I've got an even better reason.
New for 2001!
The New Ford Internet Explorer!!
Insert "circumference" for "radius" above.
Doh.
Hadn't heard of this one, but it makes sense. Doesn't GR basically say that the universe has a finite "radius" so-to-speak and that you'll end up back where you started if you could travel long enough. Looks like Hawking's carried that over into the time-dimension as well?
Of course didn't GR also say that in order to end up back where you started it would take an infinite amount of time? (All mathematically speaking of course)
Of course mathematically speaking it's possible for particles with imaginary mass to travel faster than light...*shrug* So if we can write off "imaginary time" at face value, being something "real", we should also be able to write off "imaginary mass" as being something that "is"?
Show me the tachyons!!!
We could have probably done this a few years ago if the SSC in Texas(?) hadn't been axed by Congress....but NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
God forbid we'd put any real money into scientific research when there's so many third world countries needing handouts so their citizens can buy more American cigarettes....so many people who've gone down on the President that need investigating....so many Windows licenses to buy!!!!
Put the budget surplus back into research. Maybe then we wouldn't lose any more Mars probes, blow up any more Delta rockets, and in a few years we'll all be driving Hover-cars with Mr. Fusions(tm) in the back.
Dammit!
Of course if this is what they think it is, this is damn cool. Maybe we can actually figure out a way to reliably produce and detect neutrinos next?
Anyone have any links re: the big neutrino detector tanks set up last year?
I see the A.T. crowd has discovered Slashdot. Vommy is that you?
Macrovision has been around forever and a day. If that's indeed what it is there are macrovision 'removers' out there
No silly.
He means that all firearms have a unique 'rifling' pattern on the inside of the barrel which in turn leaves it's mark on any bullet/slug which goes through it. Ballistics.
Use a shotgun with low gauge pellets.
So it's not really intelligent, it just appears that way?
:) -- denotes intention of sarcasm.
Just read to me like 'Artifically Flavored' or something.
Actually I remember mags like "Nibble" (is that right?) for the Apple II.
Anyone else recall typing in Hex for hours to try that nifty game only to find that they screwed it up along the way?
I downloaded the new demo (yes on Win32...)
and while I couldn't help but thinking 'DAMN this is so cool...' while checking out the graphics, the mechanics, etc. etc....
At the end I'm sitting there going, "this kinda sucks" as I'm doing nothing but running around in circles looking for a weapon or armor or the bot/player I'm running from/towards.
I can see this being fun with 2+ people on 2+ PC's in the same room hurling insults audibly back and forth, etc. etc.
But, DAMMIT, I was hoping the bots would exhibit a little more AI than just running and bouncing about at a faster pace than a human can react to. (at least *this* human.)
I'll wait for the single player version, with any kind of plot, dozens of sweeping, multi-planed, curved-surfaces, fog-covered levels....and lots of ugly nasty beasties hiding behind the next door.
Speaking as one who burned out violently on the multi-player "experience" from spending waaaaay to many hours in front of a dumb terminal playing MUDs about 8 years ago.....
Was anyone else disappointed by his address?
It seemed to be to be nothing more than a bunch of open-source flag-waving and "gee isn't Linux great!" I mean this is probably *the* biggest event in the computing world and 'We've got credit cards?'
I (out of curiosity) watched BG's speech just before I tuned into Linus. I couldn't help but think "Now, that's what we're going to have to do. *Show* what Linux is capable of." Wild Bill up there yanking a server out of the rack and watching the fail-over right there, while garnering yawns from most of you (including myself) probably got more PHB's signed on to W2K than Linus & Maddog's lovefest.
Especially at events such as this. I would've expected a little bit of detail into the advances the 2.4 kernel will bring. A little about supporting the next gen. processors. Maybe a few real-world examples of where Linux is out-doing or replacing NT.... This speech would've been great at say a LUG meeting or a university appearance...but not at a world gathering of *IT business* types.
Instead we get 20 minutes of 'open source is good.' And then 20 minutes of questions like 'How many stuffed penguins do you have.'
Err, um. OK.
World domination? Not if we're ill-prepared to put our 'money where our mouth is.'
And as far as the news from Transmeta? What news? We know no more now than we did before.
--sitting here with wrinkled brow--
There's a reason it's an MIS degree instead of an ISM or SIM or SMI or whatever
Management (or derivatives) is the first word.
Information is 2nd.
Systems is 3rd.
That's pretty much the priority in the mindset of the 'MIS' folks I know.
Management, red-tape, infrastructure, buzzwords, blahblahblah is what these people do. Information? Oh yeah, that's what we're trying to get out.
Systems? Yeah, whatever that guy from MS said will do just fine....
If IT/Tech departments *wanted* tech people, they'd come after CS types, instead of MIS folks.
Why else (at least at my Uni.) do you think MIS is a business-school degree instead of an Eng./Tech. one?
Then, um, wouldn't there probably be a 95% chance that'd it'd in run in Linux with the help of our friends in the WINE project?
Granted it's not native....but wouldn't it?
anyone? Beuller?
Seems to me the "chicken and egg" thing is going to be present for a while when it comes to stuff like kids games and educational software. The development costs/money brought in on products like this are low as it is, when you've got a minimal user base, and one that tends to gripe whenever somebody wants $$ for their software, it just isn't going to happen.
Of course I could be wrong. It has happened before....
Seriously, though....
If they were to find that there were some frame-dragging effects, wouldn't this throw a humongous monkey wrench into the whole 'there is no aether' thing?
The way I was taught, *There was no "aether"*
To me, any indication of reference frame dragging would indicate otherwise. Maybe not *exactly* the same thing that the MM experiement "disproves", but still.....
Like the subject says, imagine me going "Hrm..." with a concerned frown.
Is this good? Well, *scratches head*, well, yeah, kinda, I guess....
From a PR standpoint, does anyone else here see the potential for "others" (wink-nudge*cough*) to use this against our beloved penguin?
"Linux is the official OS of the communist-run monolith of China....do you *really* want to use an OS officially sactioned by the largest communist regime in the world? Use *our* OS instead....we're 'made in America.' yadda yadda"
Don't laugh.
On the other hand, this could be good for China itself. Since A. It don't cost nuthin, and B. Runs on older machines quite well, it could introduce "modern computing" into some of the more remote areas, and create a new interest in technology in places where the year is still (for all intensive purps.) 1936 or earlier.
AND, on top of that, an active involvement in an open exchange of ideas such as Linux and open source could open a lot of people's eyes to what the rest of the world is doing, rather than what Chairman whosit says is going on.
Does anyone else think it's strange that this comes soon after this LinuxOne crud? That's my seed for the conspiracy theorists.
Seriously, who's going to have their toaster or whatever on their network? Sure, embed a chip in there with a thermostat that cuts off power to the coils if it gets too hot....a timer that turns 'em on in the morning, but networking it? Kinda reminds me of the guy in with sensors on his toilet to count the flushes. (The "net house")
/var/log/toaster_log
.004kW/hr, translate: $.003
Don't get me wrong. I wired my house when I built it with 10B-T, More coax than I need and a sweet X-10 capable security system, but the utility of stuff like this escapes me.
Some things, like your TV, VCR, your security system, etc. etc. would probably benefit from having a TCP/IP stack and an OS built into them. I'm surprised most don't already...Same with auto computers, why not have a 10B-T port with a teency OS with a teency web server to report fault-codes, and other fun statistics....
If anything would be useful, it'd probably be some short of short-range wireless network that reports back to a central hub somewhere in your house to report power usage, if it's nearing failure, stuff like that.
Imagine your log files (made up the numbers...smirk)
$cat
Nov 10 06:30:00 toaster01 (startup): Starting with preset 02, cycle #0032
Nov 10 06:32:47 toaster01 (popup): Toast cycle #0032 ended at 130F after 167 sec.
Nov 10 06:32:49 toaster01 (status): Total power usage
Nov 10 06:32:51 toaster01 (status): WARNING, coil subsystem nearing end of life cycle, repair recommended (8 cycles remaining.)
Need to be taken out back and kicked in the laurels a few times.
.com,.net domains....is this supposed to happen? Ever since I can remember you're supposed to use the proper suffix, i.e. .co.uk, .com.au, etc. So far the .us suffix has been relegated to state governments here.
How many domain named are owned by somebody, even seemingly dumb ones, with absolutely no intent of them being used? Just start typing in random words as domain names into whois. Now take those and see who actually has a server at the other end with nslookup and/or ping. It's a little ridiculous. I recently did a bout of checking out possible domain names, and the numbers of domains like this astounded me.
There should be a clause in the NIC agreement:
Use it or lose it. 3 months to get *something* at that domain name (besides a 'coming soon' page from your registrar) or you lose it and your cash.
I don't care if it's a web site, a mail server, what have you. *Something* that operates in a useful capacity. (not just a 'ping server' either.)
As far as non-US companies/people registering in the
You can't go to the phone company and say 'I want to buy all the phone numbers from xxx-0012 through xxx-0102', can you? Well I suppose you could, but would they let you? Not unless you pay for the lines to go with it.
Well, yeah! I am.
Go to the sci-fi section of any bookstore and find me an *original* *well-written* *non-preaching* *non-formula* *untrite* piece of contemporary science fiction. Written in the past year.
All I see is 200 Star Trek novellettes and some other stuff that quite frankly sounds like any episode of any sci-fi show ever made.
Now they're going to kill off Chewie? WTF? What is this, "All My Alien-Children?" Leia marries Han, Luke's shacking up with some Jedi chick from three books ago....yadda yadda. Just write some good original stories and don't mess with my Chewbacca!
This is pretty f*cked up right here.
Oh well. The books pretty much sucked rocks anyhow. 99% of all sci-fi books suck anymore. They're like bad romance novels or something, coming out about twice a week. At least KJ Anderson's not writing it.
I completely gave up hope on the validity or integrity of any contemporary sci-fi novel when I saw a 'Star Trek: Voyager' and 'X-Men' crossover novel.
I couldn't stop laughing.
I've seen one of these at the local Best Buy, it's really not that large of a set. Maybe stands 3' high from the floor, and only 1/2 of that is screen. Last time I checked they were running around $2.5k or so, which is steep for that small a set, but the picture was damn nice. They also make a 56" unit, but obviously it's much larger.
Personally, I'm going to wait until decent and affordable HD sets start appearing. That AND HD compatible DVD units.
OK, I looked like an idiot there....I'm still half asleep. *snore*
1. Not *all* farmers do this. A lot of 'em do buy seed. A lot of 'em work with seed companies planting new hybrids, etc. etc. But, generally you do set some aside. You can't consistently plant seed from the same crop over and over again as it gets "inbred" as some others have said.
2. This still seems like a move aimed directly toward the big farming companies, though. I'm sure this stuff isn't cheap. The reward vs. cost wouldn't be worth it unless you had thousands of acres of the stuff.