Witness stuff like what Wild Tangent's doing
www.wildtangent.com
Granted the last time I checked it only worked on Windows, and there was a marginal download-delay (only in minutes), but *damn* you've got hardware accelerated 3-D right there in your browser. Real Slick(tm) stuff. I was thoroughly impressed, and it takes a lot to really impress me on the web these days.
What we need is some sort of 'mind-meld' between guys like WT and a Flash-like setup. Fairly simple to develop for, quick download times, and quick execution.
Three or four years ago VRML was 'cutting edge', a device without a use. Mainly because of it's limitations. It will have to surpass what's out there or become incredibly simple to develop for, like what HTML has become.
OK, I submit that the recent warm spells are NOT a result of global warming but of the recent peak in solar activity....but I digress....
It doesn't amount to a hill-of-beans anywho, since the world will end in 2038 anyway when all the machines come to life and rebel against their human owners, taking over the world and keeping all the good weed for themselves. (C'mon I wasn't the only one who saw that story on TV a while back!)
...there was nothing to do, coz' all the bowling alleys were wrecked, so's I spent most of my time looking for beer.
Option 1: Fix them. Quit bitching and pitch in. Make it better for everyone. If you don't want to/can't help fix them, at least report them so they *can* be fixed.
Option 2: Shut up and don't use Red Hat's Distro. It's really that simple.
Perspective: It could be worse. 137 or whatever << 65000 as in Win 2K!!!
I don't think you'd have to worry about vibrations so much as it surviving temperature extremes.
Even if you stick it in the trunk, it's still going to get *damn* hot in the summer. Depending on where you live, winter is liable to kill it altogether!!!
Unless you somehow put it in a pullout chassis you can take out of the car and into the ac or heat.
Are these...*idiots*...so completely and fully absorbed with the concept that they control what we see and hear to the point where it's no longer a recording, but a 'time shift?' TIME SHIFT? This is insane. The intro to 'outer limits' seems to be coming true.
We control the horizontal...we control the vertical....
Snarf up those tivos, replays, svhs decks and digital camcorders. Stockpile your blank media NOW!
DivX turned out to be a failure in the marketplace with it's pay-per-play model, now they think "hey we just won't give them the choice! If they want to watch it more than once they'll have to buy it *chaching*" How much you want to bet that macrovision becomes standard equipment on all HD->NTSC converter boxes as well???
I wasn't too upset until I read that. F*cking time shift, indeed.
Every been in the drive-through line behind a '70 'Cuda? Thos who are old enough will recall that ALL cars used to smell like that.
Hey! I love the smell of raw unbridled half-burned auto exhaust! SNIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Does anyone even make a Stereo-component size black finish case that will fit in my stereo cabinet without hanging out either the front or back (lpx) or just being the wrong size? Height really doesn't matter, but length and width are important.
I can't draw a picture, but Dillinger's big-ass desk(tm) from TRON is what I'm talking about. Then use a wireless video transmitter/receiver to put it on the TV screen....
It may or may not be true. I don't know. Maybe the SuperPimp boys are pulling our leg. Certain facets of their 'announcement' have me wondering....
If not (and if they AREN'T being sued by the RIAA) then they really should take the notice on their site down.
What's the scoop fella's?
Anyhow, it DOES raise an interesting point, doesn't it? How is napster different than PAN, or Netscape, (or the whole of USENET) in that it gives people free access to freely accessible (yet possibly illegal) material?
According to the authors of an open-sourced newsreader, PAN (http://www.superpimp.org), You guys are getting ready to sue them as well. Are there any truths to the rumor? If so, I will be very concerned, for two reasons:
1. Their product is in no way similar to napster, it is simply a 'viewer' for a network protocol that has been in use for literally decades. It's a tool and a medium, and unlike napster, has no central point of control over what is posted there. 2. If you are planning on going after SuperPimpSoft, do you plan to also bring suit against other providers of newsreader software, such as....say....small companies like Microsoft, Netscape, etc.? Fair's Fair, right guys?
(I don't use napster, but I have used USENET/newsreaders to download MP3 files for Metallica albums I own on old, tired, extremely worn out cassettes.)
Life would be simpler the way you state if (IF) everyone thought like us *nixers did, and like having a bunch of little tools that all mesh together. Unfortunately, Joe Dumbass who just bought his Gateway wants it ALL...NOW.
*shrug* I'm torn, myself. If an app *can* do "it all" and pull it off without becoming too overbearing and complicated, then sure, let me at it. Odds are, no it can't.
Re: minibrowser in WinAMP. I've seen (heard?) a few sites/stations that use the URL prop. of their stream to show a little logo or whatnot in the minibrowser, actually is kinda neat. Used this way it works great. Try to read slashdot or it fails. It's got a specific purpose.
Re: backwards compatibility. I dig Flash. Sorry, but I think its a bit ahead of the bandwidth situation, but it rocks. WHEN USED PROPERLY. Overkill is another thing altogether. We saw and said the same thing 5 years ago when BLINK tags, animated gifs, and sound were available in browsers. "Oh my god! The humanity!" Now it's pretty much standard fare. (save for blink thank god.) They're still too much when used badly, and/or in excess....bad design is bad design no matter what.
Otherwise we'd all still be using gopher and lynx now wouldn't we?
Real should just stick to making a real media player. Period. What "real media" is is up to them, but they shouldn't be trying to make the next greatest mp3 player/web browser/bsod inducer on the planet. (My $.02)
Well? A while back I was searching for such an app, and found a lot of stuff for the Japanese models....but nothing for my old dinosaur (yes I use it! $50 and it does what I need!)
So is there an app that'll let me download my address book, etc. from Linux via Serial? If not anyone got the protocols?
No you don't, especially if you enjoy dropping frames, out-of-sync audio, and general piss-poor performance overall.
A 5400rpm ATA drive is NOT going to have a decent enough seek time OR data transfer rate to store FULL FRAME FULL RATE FULL FIELD video + perfectly synced high-rate audio. especially a monsterfully huge drive like the one you speak of. And especially each-and-every time you go to do it.
It might be fine for grabbing a minute or so of 320x240 15fps single field video + low bit rate audio from your TV card, but don't expect anything but headaches if you try to reliably capture to it, or output to tape from it.
OK, if you're talking just for storage purposes, or for the 'inbetween' editing phases, sure I've got no argument there, but for the raw in and out....no way.
Just fired it all up this past weekend. I'm not doing anything DV (yet).
o P3 600 Coppermine o 256MB RAM o 15G UDMA66 IDE HD, 7200RPM o U2W SCSI Controller w/ 9 G U2W drive (for capture/playback) o Pinnacle DC30 Pro (all on Win98 unfortunately, with premiere 5)
While most of the system is pretty straightforward and inexpensive, the two most important parts are going to cost the most $$$ The SCSI controller and drive are important because you'll want to be capturing your video to it's own device, preferably on it's own controller? Why? You don't want the drive getting bogged up doing stuff like swapping and general system stuff. The faster and wider the better. If I get more $$$ I'll add more drives on the scsi chain....
The DC30 is a dedicated analog in/out board. So far I'm pretty happy with the results. No dropped frames. It ran me around $500 something. Nothing beats 'all-in-hardware', plus I've got the outs for a tv monitor and out-to-tape.
For DV, you're going to need A LOT of FAST disk space, and keep in mind that DV *is* 7**x4** resolution (forget the exact numbers) and you HAVE to capture at that res. at the DV frame rate. and for back out to DV it's got to stay the same.
Do your research on motherboards, too. You don't want to get a cheap motherboard only to find that it can't hack the throughput.
We'll get a bunch of Linux people together and wander around in the dirt fields for a while. (Dirt farming really *is* an actual occupation here, seriously)
Then we'll drink some 3.2 Okie beer, take a whiz, and go home with a headache and a sunburn.
It's hard to walk for long in a pair of cowboy boots though.
Someone on this hike drink some Sharps for me and explain in great detail what it tasted like.
(UK Sharps != US Sharps)
(...cont...for you UK'ers who don't get that, Sharps here is a non-alky 'beer'....shameful.)
(ObUK-USBeerStory: When I was over there about 3 years ago, in a pub on Lizard point, some poor sod was drinking *US* Budweiser. Discuss.)
But that's different..... I <em>need</em> quake!!!
er, or something. Isn't it?
I think this is a good thing. This company took what was a wide-open market and got in first. The rest of you are just jealous. Closed source or not, it's one more application you DON'T need Windows to run, and that's GOOD.
What are you talking about? It's still agin' the law here in OK to run a tattoo parlor AFAIK. There was a guy busted recently in Tulsa for simply setting up an appointment for someone *at his legal tattoo parlor in Missouri (or KS)*
OK whatever. Step into the wayback machine with me Sherman, and lets look at what it might've been seen as ~30 years ago.
Gorillas - The military/police/strongarm authority. It light of 'nam and incidents like Kent State, think about it.
The O-tangs - The 'establishment' i.e. government and religion, all wrapped up in one oppressing ruling caste. Unwilling to look at the facts in front of them and see what's there because it'd ruin their power.
And the Chimps - arguably the smartest of the primates, the 'free thinkers' and scientists of the 'ape-world.' Open minded and willing to go out on the limb to change things.
While yes, it could be considered quite liberal, get off the 'race' wagon already. Context, man.
Alright, I'm a big fan of the 'Apes.' Have been for a loooong time. I'm sure the re-make will be good, but....
IT'S STILL ANOTHER F@#%^NG HOLLYWOOD REMAKE!!!
Today's media, by and large, is so un-original and copycat it's pathetic. Does POTA *need* to be re-made? No. Do we need anymore dumbass films based off of dumbass 60's/70's TV shows? No. Anymore dumbass Disney cartoon musicals / merchandising machines? No.
What we need is some go#@$mned creativity and imagination coming to a theater near you and me.
I saw another story about the possibility of a 'snowcrash' film. Cool. I think I'll go check that out. At least that hasn't been done before. Ditto for the Lord of the Rings films in progress (No a dopey cartoon version doesn't count.)
If art mirrors society then we all must be a lot of monkey-see-monkey-do idiotic zombies. If society mirrors art then we're headed that way quick.
Witness stuff like what Wild Tangent's doing
www.wildtangent.com
Granted the last time I checked it only worked on Windows, and there was a marginal download-delay (only in minutes), but *damn* you've got hardware accelerated 3-D right there in your browser. Real Slick(tm) stuff. I was thoroughly impressed, and it takes a lot to really impress me on the web these days.
What we need is some sort of 'mind-meld' between guys like WT and a Flash-like setup. Fairly simple to develop for, quick download times, and quick execution.
Three or four years ago VRML was 'cutting edge', a device without a use. Mainly because of it's limitations. It will have to surpass what's out there or become incredibly simple to develop for, like what HTML has become.
...a member of the open source "community"?
Answer truthfully!!!!
It's too damned early and my head hurts...
OK, I submit that the recent warm spells are NOT a result of global warming but of the recent peak in solar activity....but I digress....
It doesn't amount to a hill-of-beans anywho, since the world will end in 2038 anyway when all the machines come to life and rebel against their human owners, taking over the world and keeping all the good weed for themselves. (C'mon I wasn't the only one who saw that story on TV a while back!)
...there was nothing to do, coz' all the bowling alleys were wrecked, so's I spent most of my time looking for beer.
This *is* open source software, right?
Option 1: Fix them. Quit bitching and pitch in. Make it better for everyone. If you don't want to/can't help fix them, at least report them so they *can* be fixed.
Option 2: Shut up and don't use Red Hat's Distro. It's really that simple.
Perspective: It could be worse. 137 or whatever << 65000 as in Win 2K!!!
Now reopen linux.engr.uark.edu dammit!!!!
Transparent Aluminum
"A Keyboard...how quaint."
tell me that spinning up a hard drive when it's been sitting outside in -20dF temperatures overnight will be OK for it....with a straight face.
You know what I mean, summer/winter blah blah blah, Australia southern hemisphere yadda yadda yadda....
I don't think you'd have to worry about vibrations so much as it surviving temperature extremes.
Even if you stick it in the trunk, it's still going to get *damn* hot in the summer. Depending on where you live, winter is liable to kill it altogether!!!
Unless you somehow put it in a pullout chassis you can take out of the car and into the ac or heat.
WTF?
Are these...*idiots*...so completely and fully absorbed with the concept that they control what we see and hear to the point where it's no longer a recording, but a 'time shift?' TIME SHIFT? This is insane. The intro to 'outer limits' seems to be coming true.
We control the horizontal...we control the vertical....
Snarf up those tivos, replays, svhs decks and digital camcorders. Stockpile your blank media NOW!
DivX turned out to be a failure in the marketplace with it's pay-per-play model, now they think "hey we just won't give them the choice! If they want to watch it more than once they'll have to buy it *chaching*" How much you want to bet that macrovision becomes standard equipment on all HD->NTSC converter boxes as well???
I wasn't too upset until I read that. F*cking time shift, indeed.
Every been in the drive-through line behind a '70 'Cuda? Thos who are old enough will recall that ALL cars used to smell like that.
Hey! I love the smell of raw unbridled half-burned auto exhaust!
SNIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Does anyone even make a Stereo-component size black finish case that will fit in my stereo cabinet without hanging out either the front or back (lpx) or just being the wrong size? Height really doesn't matter, but length and width are important.
AND doesn't cost $200 for the case alone?
Put the monitor at an angle *under the glass*
I can't draw a picture, but Dillinger's big-ass desk(tm) from TRON is what I'm talking about. Then use a wireless video transmitter/receiver to put it on the TV screen....
A.K.A.
The Potato Chip
Sorry....couldn't resist that one....
I BIT AND I BIT HARD.
I think I shattered my teeth.
Aw hell, moderate me down, moderate me off the face of the planet. Moderate me until I bleed from my nose and ears.
It may or may not be true. I don't know. Maybe the SuperPimp boys are pulling our leg. Certain facets of their 'announcement' have me wondering....
If not (and if they AREN'T being sued by the RIAA) then they really should take the notice on their site down.
What's the scoop fella's?
Anyhow, it DOES raise an interesting point, doesn't it? How is napster different than PAN, or Netscape, (or the whole of USENET) in that it gives people free access to freely accessible (yet possibly illegal) material?
According to the authors of an open-sourced newsreader, PAN (http://www.superpimp.org), You guys are getting ready to sue them as well. Are there any truths to the rumor? If so, I will be very concerned, for two reasons:
1. Their product is in no way similar to napster, it is simply a 'viewer' for a network protocol that has been in use for literally decades. It's a tool and a medium, and unlike napster, has no central point of control over what is posted there.
2. If you are planning on going after SuperPimpSoft, do you plan to also bring suit against other providers of newsreader software, such as....say....small companies like Microsoft, Netscape, etc.? Fair's Fair, right guys?
(I don't use napster, but I have used USENET/newsreaders to download MP3 files for Metallica albums I own on old, tired, extremely worn out cassettes.)
Life would be simpler the way you state if (IF) everyone thought like us *nixers did, and like having a bunch of little tools that all mesh together. Unfortunately, Joe Dumbass who just bought his Gateway wants it ALL...NOW.
*shrug* I'm torn, myself. If an app *can* do "it all" and pull it off without becoming too overbearing and complicated, then sure, let me at it. Odds are, no it can't.
Re: minibrowser in WinAMP. I've seen (heard?) a few sites/stations that use the URL prop. of their stream to show a little logo or whatnot in the minibrowser, actually is kinda neat. Used this way it works great. Try to read slashdot or it fails. It's got a specific purpose.
Re: backwards compatibility. I dig Flash. Sorry, but I think its a bit ahead of the bandwidth situation, but it rocks. WHEN USED PROPERLY. Overkill is another thing altogether. We saw and said the same thing 5 years ago when BLINK tags, animated gifs, and sound were available in browsers. "Oh my god! The humanity!" Now it's pretty much standard fare. (save for blink thank god.) They're still too much when used badly, and/or in excess....bad design is bad design no matter what.
Otherwise we'd all still be using gopher and lynx now wouldn't we?
Real should just stick to making a real media player. Period. What "real media" is is up to them, but they shouldn't be trying to make the next greatest mp3 player/web browser/bsod inducer on the planet. (My $.02)
I got somethin' to say (dun dunnnnnn)
I ripped your CD today and it...
doesn't matter much to me...
as long as it's dead....
Kinda brings a whole new meaning to BREADFAN don't it?
Well? A while back I was searching for such an app, and found a lot of stuff for the Japanese models....but nothing for my old dinosaur (yes I use it! $50 and it does what I need!)
So is there an app that'll let me download my address book, etc. from Linux via Serial? If not anyone got the protocols?
No you don't, especially if you enjoy dropping frames, out-of-sync audio, and general piss-poor performance overall.
A 5400rpm ATA drive is NOT going to have a decent enough seek time OR data transfer rate to store FULL FRAME FULL RATE FULL FIELD video + perfectly synced high-rate audio. especially a monsterfully huge drive like the one you speak of.
And especially each-and-every time you go to do it.
It might be fine for grabbing a minute or so of 320x240 15fps single field video + low bit rate audio from your TV card, but don't expect anything but headaches if you try to reliably capture to it, or output to tape from it.
OK, if you're talking just for storage purposes, or for the 'inbetween' editing phases, sure I've got no argument there, but for the raw in and out....no way.
Just fired it all up this past weekend. I'm not doing anything DV (yet).
o P3 600 Coppermine
o 256MB RAM
o 15G UDMA66 IDE HD, 7200RPM
o U2W SCSI Controller w/ 9 G U2W drive (for capture/playback)
o Pinnacle DC30 Pro
(all on Win98 unfortunately, with premiere 5)
While most of the system is pretty straightforward and inexpensive, the two most important parts are going to cost the most $$$
The SCSI controller and drive are important because you'll want to be capturing your video to it's own device, preferably on it's own controller? Why? You don't want the drive getting bogged up doing stuff like swapping and general system stuff. The faster and wider the better. If I get more $$$ I'll add more drives on the scsi chain....
The DC30 is a dedicated analog in/out board. So far I'm pretty happy with the results. No dropped frames. It ran me around $500 something. Nothing beats 'all-in-hardware', plus I've got the outs for a tv monitor and out-to-tape.
For DV, you're going to need A LOT of FAST disk space, and keep in mind that DV *is* 7**x4** resolution (forget the exact numbers) and you HAVE to capture at that res. at the DV frame rate.
and for back out to DV it's got to stay the same.
Do your research on motherboards, too. You don't want to get a cheap motherboard only to find that it can't hack the throughput.
My $.02
We'll get a bunch of Linux people together and wander around in the dirt fields for a while. (Dirt farming really *is* an actual occupation here, seriously)
Then we'll drink some 3.2 Okie beer, take a whiz, and go home with a headache and a sunburn.
It's hard to walk for long in a pair of cowboy boots though.
Someone on this hike drink some Sharps for me and explain in great detail what it tasted like.
(UK Sharps != US Sharps)
(...cont...for you UK'ers who don't get that, Sharps here is a non-alky 'beer'....shameful.)
(ObUK-USBeerStory: When I was over there about 3 years ago, in a pub on Lizard point, some poor sod was drinking *US* Budweiser. Discuss.)
But that's different.....
I <em>need</em> quake!!!
er, or something. Isn't it?
I think this is a good thing. This company took what was a wide-open market and got in first. The rest of you are just jealous. Closed source or not, it's one more application you DON'T need Windows to run, and that's GOOD.
What are you talking about?
It's still agin' the law here in OK to run a tattoo parlor AFAIK. There was a guy busted recently in Tulsa for simply setting up an appointment for someone *at his legal tattoo parlor in Missouri (or KS)*
You don't know what you're talking about.
OK whatever.
Step into the wayback machine with me Sherman, and lets look at what it might've been seen as ~30 years ago.
Gorillas - The military/police/strongarm authority. It light of 'nam and incidents like Kent State, think about it.
The O-tangs - The 'establishment' i.e. government and religion, all wrapped up in one oppressing ruling caste. Unwilling to look at the facts in front of them and see what's there because it'd ruin their power.
And the Chimps - arguably the smartest of the primates, the 'free thinkers' and scientists of the 'ape-world.' Open minded and willing to go out on the limb to change things.
While yes, it could be considered quite liberal, get off the 'race' wagon already. Context, man.
Alright, I'm a big fan of the 'Apes.' Have been for a loooong time. I'm sure the re-make will be good, but....
IT'S STILL ANOTHER F@#%^NG HOLLYWOOD REMAKE!!!
Today's media, by and large, is so un-original and copycat it's pathetic. Does POTA *need* to be re-made? No. Do we need anymore dumbass films based off of dumbass 60's/70's TV shows? No. Anymore dumbass Disney cartoon musicals / merchandising machines? No.
What we need is some go#@$mned creativity and imagination coming to a theater near you and me.
I saw another story about the possibility of a 'snowcrash' film. Cool. I think I'll go check that out. At least that hasn't been done before. Ditto for the Lord of the Rings films in progress (No a dopey cartoon version doesn't count.)
If art mirrors society then we all must be a lot of monkey-see-monkey-do idiotic zombies. If society mirrors art then we're headed that way quick.
How about