Of course, other astrophysical forces could have been responsible.
It didn't have to be a local impact event - ever heard of gravity waves?
Regardless, I don't appreciate such closed speculation within science.
People get so caught up in proving conspiracy theories wrong. They can't handle the possibility that reality isn't what they think it is. Fear is the most powerful emotion, and your government has known this for decades. Your reflexive stereotyping is thusly preprogrammed. No, you aren't one of "them" - they don't need you to be, nor would they want you to be. But, you are doing the service they've hoped you would do. The precise reaction to the unknown that has been instilled within you is apparent. If you had half a brain you would use it to verify the details presented, both mine and NASA's. Don't make your decision that it was just an "accident" until you know 99.5% of the facts. All you seem willing to do is sound like the kind of person who wants more SlashFriends - as though you've done me some great service with your uninspired, standardized debunker's template response. All your buddies probably think so, but then again, that's why they're your buddies. I enjoy responding to you, for I will be fresh in your memory when you realize how ignorant you've behaved all this time. Even the most intelligent human being can be a moron - the refusal to admit a wrong can do more harm than a simple lack of knowledge.
Yet, your path is already chosen. Did you choose it yourself? And, can you allow yourself to change it if necessary?
Shut your pie hole if you don't have the balls to actually think for yourself. Swallow the load that NASA is shooting in your mouth. And keep swallowing, because they keep shooting. What's their latest retractment? Are they still hammering home the damaged wing story?
Some people are very sheltered, only believing information the PTB has prepped for consumption.
A terrible mind is a thing to waste. Congratulations on your success.
No, you dolt. Why must ignorance be so bliss? Do you not understand what a statement says and what it does not say? Shall I explain this entire post to you?
People who can't understand something at face value, requiring a 'gist' to simplify things, need to start thinking past their nose.
I'd laugh at this and urge modding up for "funny" but I suspect the poster is serious.
It's so easy to tell WHO is afraid of the unknown. Humor is a great suppressor of other more negative emotions. Those who are actually discussing the topic seriously are not afraid.
Jesus Effing Christ. If one more ignorant genius invokes OCCAM'S RAZOR simply because they are TOO DAMN LAZY to do the research necessary to support a NON-SIMPLEST explanation, I am going to do absolutely nothing about it.
The attempts to debunk the excellent post which actually contained thought and effort - USELESS.
Occam's Razor claims another ignorant victim. How terribly sad that human beings can't think beyond the most simple explanation. Your logic behind deducing ALL hoaxes from the ability to hoax ONE is astounding. Yet, highly consistent with your inability to suppose further than the obvious.
Typical reaction. I can tell you don't have an iota of data to support YOUR claims. Can you tell the same about me? Are you willing to take that chance?
You can 'believe' whatever you like, any number of times you like, even in lowercase it doesn't make what you believe any more true.
You ARE a fool for purporting that I claim supernatural causes for genuine crop circles. It's a sign that you have no scientific rebuttal, simply rhetoric.
Choose to be a fool if you must. You are the exact type of skeptic that your quote mentions:
Crop circles can quite thoroughly be explained away as the work of hoaxers."
You have obviously NOT done research, NOR even attempted to. Here's the first two statements from the first link you quoted from:
Probably the most controversial topic of crop circle research during the 2000 season was Colin Andrews statement that he believes 80% of crop circles are hoaxed.
Of course, as usual the media took this out of context and reported on the numerical value of his comment, rather than focusing on the genuine mystery surrounding the 20% of 'unexplained' formations.
Hello ignorant human beings - a leading "authority" on hoax circles ADMITS THAT 20% ARE NOT HOAXES. AND everyone ignores that!
Peace of mind by any means necessary, right?
If you think those are scientific articles, I weep for the future of mankind.
Oh yeah, didn't I say "don't whine about the source"? Those aren't the only two articles on the internet, unless you pretend.
If you really want to weep about the future of mankind, do a web search on Wormwood.
You have fallen prey to the illogical fallacy known as "begging the answer". Because you seem unable to put two statements together, I will explain twice.
For additional understanding, I will keep it simple. HUMANS with rope and sticks are responsible for creating HOAX circles. EITHER ET OR HUMANS with advanced technology are responsible for creating GENUINE crop circles.
Do some research if you hear terms you don't understand. Like "strange energy disturbances" - you don't have to play dumb - you can figure out what it means.
Come on people! GENUINE crop circles are NOT made with ropes. There are plenty of physical changes in the structure of the crop itself that are NOT POSSIBLE using physical methods of creation.
This reply is not intended to belittle the parent post. But I felt it appropriate to remind people that GENUINE crop circles are NOT made with ROPE.
Why are human beings so scared of crop circles? Why do human beings think that all crop circles are hoaxes? Rhetorical questions, I know. Idiots will respond.
Human beings don't know their ass from a hole in their ass. But they always act like they do. Ignore the scientific proof found at many crop circles, and you act like a typical human being.
I'M NOT SAYING ALL CROP CIRCLES ARE MADE BY ET! I'm not even saying that ANY crop circle HAS been made by ET. But hear what your mind feels comfortable with.
If you don't know the difference between a 'genuine' crop circle and a physically-created hoax circle, then congratulations: you're stupid. Why are most of the posts on this topic so ignorant sounding? Again, rhetorical.
Why are human beings so scared of crop circles? Why do human beings think that all crop circles are hoaxes? Rhetorical questions, I know. Idiots will respond.
Human beings don't know their ass from a hole in their ass. But they always act like they do. Ignore the scientific proof found at many crop circles, and you act like a typical human being.
I'M NOT SAYING ALL CROP CIRCLES ARE MADE BY ET! I'm not even saying that ANY crop circle HAS been made by ET. But hear what your mind feels comfortable with.
If you don't know the difference between a 'genuine' crop circle and a physically-created hoax circle, then congratulations: you're stupid. Why are most of the posts on this topic so ignorant sounding? Again, rhetorical.
Why are human beings so scared of crop circles? Why do human beings think that all crop circles are hoaxes? Rhetorical questions, I know. Idiots will respond.
Human beings don't know their ass from a hole in their ass. But they always act like they do. Ignore the scientific proof found at many crop circles, and you act like a typical human being.
I'M NOT SAYING ALL CROP CIRCLES ARE MADE BY ET! I'm not even saying that ANY crop circle HAS been made by ET. But hear what your mind feels comfortable with.
If you don't know the difference between a 'genuine' crop circle and a physically-created hoax circle, then congratulations: you're stupid. Why are most of the posts on this topic so ignorant sounding? Again, rhetorical.
The shortness they speak of indeed applies to life in the year 2003. Take them seriously.
Listen to other advertisements as well, from ANY corporation. Hear the second meaning in doubly-spoken phrases. The public is being psychologically prepared for certain 'concepts', though they don't realize this yet.
Most of these programs are intended to cause one common thought among viewers: make them believe that the near future is guaranteed to be not much different than the present.
But what about the many programs I've seen on such cable channels, that speak of natural disasters, catastrophes, ancient prophecies about the 'end'?? That's a different message altogether, right?
Depends on what the public really cares about. And I can safely say that the public usually doesn't care about anything that doesn't directly concern them. And that's usually everything that they aren't intelligent enough to be concerned about, as a collective.
Evolution is just one of many things that the public truly doesn't understand because of the skew in what is taught and how, AND the skew in what is researched. Teaching more than one thing leads to independent thought and the increased ability to make decisions, the worst thing to do if the public is to remain easily distracted and manipulated via money.
That aside, what I choose to stress is the pattern in programming on these channels, not simply a collection of mutually exclusive information sessions. The entire scope of sciences being discussed across the breadth of cable channels paints a picture, if you know what the canvas looks like.
You love to complain and correct people, don't you? THAT sounds more like an inferiority complex to me than the simple sharing of information. Must you validate yourself in such a manner? "We all know" that other threads, semi- and unrelated, are guaranteed in any SlashDot story.
I suppose complainers are too. As are those who promptly smack them down.
Slashdot Mirror
Of course, other astrophysical forces could have been responsible. It didn't have to be a local impact event - ever heard of gravity waves? Regardless, I don't appreciate such closed speculation within science.
Status quo, etc.
Saving alot of money in the IT parts of business will make other parts look worse. Savings will be demanded in places they shouldn't be demanded.
Sometimes, doing a really good thing only gets you into being expected to do more really good things.
Success is something that people tend to either go for as much as possible, or make last as long as possible.
Yet, your path is already chosen. Did you choose it yourself? And, can you allow yourself to change it if necessary?
Don't let your pride be your demise.
As expected as your reply, sir.
Cheaper, Faster, More... a mantra to convince the public that any future errors are caused by the corners cut.
The stories after the fact, that NASA was not spending what they "needed to" for shuttle safety.
The video after the fact, that tiles were peeling off, the wing was cracked, and then boom.
Can't you see through the fog of war? Internally, NASA is near mutiny - it was known this would occur to Columbia - even necessary.
Jesus Christ, people, don't you understand that it's NOT about a lack of money? You are being coerced into believing this lie. Resist.
Yeah, then they can mod you a troll.
Shut your pie hole if you don't have the balls to actually think for yourself. Swallow the load that NASA is shooting in your mouth. And keep swallowing, because they keep shooting. What's their latest retractment? Are they still hammering home the damaged wing story?
Some people are very sheltered, only believing information the PTB has prepped for consumption.
A terrible mind is a thing to waste. Congratulations on your success.
The shuttle caused a discharge of the solar capacitor. Space IS unsafe, and is getting worse.
Columbia
More information on that page than NASA is willing to admit. The truth hurts, and sometimes it even kills.
Some real insight... and even more insight. Not that which Slash-Dot mandates as being.
People who can't understand something at face value, requiring a 'gist' to simplify things, need to start thinking past their nose.
It's so easy to tell WHO is afraid of the unknown. Humor is a great suppressor of other more negative emotions. Those who are actually discussing the topic seriously are not afraid.
The attempts to debunk the excellent post which actually contained thought and effort - USELESS.
Thanks for playing!
Read this post before continuing discussion:
Come on people, use your brains
You can 'believe' whatever you like, any number of times you like, even in lowercase it doesn't make what you believe any more true.
You ARE a fool for purporting that I claim supernatural causes for genuine crop circles. It's a sign that you have no scientific rebuttal, simply rhetoric.
Thanks for falling into a simple trap.
Humans make HOAX circles with rope and sticks.
Humans AND/OR ETs make GENUINE circles with ???.
I hope that's simple enough.
Crop circles can quite thoroughly be explained away as the work of hoaxers."
You have obviously NOT done research, NOR even attempted to. Here's the first two statements from the first link you quoted from:
Probably the most controversial topic of crop circle research during the 2000 season was Colin Andrews statement that he believes 80% of crop circles are hoaxed.
Of course, as usual the media took this out of context and reported on the numerical value of his comment, rather than focusing on the genuine mystery surrounding the 20% of 'unexplained' formations.
Hello ignorant human beings - a leading "authority" on hoax circles ADMITS THAT 20% ARE NOT HOAXES. AND everyone ignores that!
Peace of mind by any means necessary, right?
If you think those are scientific articles, I weep for the future of mankind.
Oh yeah, didn't I say "don't whine about the source"? Those aren't the only two articles on the internet, unless you pretend.
If you really want to weep about the future of mankind, do a web search on Wormwood.
This post should alleviate your confusion: Come on people, use your brains.
For additional understanding, I will keep it simple. HUMANS with rope and sticks are responsible for creating HOAX circles. EITHER ET OR HUMANS with advanced technology are responsible for creating GENUINE crop circles.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Do some research if you hear terms you don't understand. Like "strange energy disturbances" - you don't have to play dumb - you can figure out what it means.
For example, this information might educate you.
Or maybe this will. Don't blame me for the background image.
Oh yeah, don't whine about the sources. If you don't like the information, either do some research yourself or continue being ignorant.
Also, a Google search can do wonders to assist in the removal of ignorance.
Whatever "ignorance" means.
Come on people! GENUINE crop circles are NOT made with ropes. There are plenty of physical changes in the structure of the crop itself that are NOT POSSIBLE using physical methods of creation.
This reply is not intended to belittle the parent post. But I felt it appropriate to remind people that GENUINE crop circles are NOT made with ROPE.
Shall I say it one more time?
(the more original version)
Why are human beings so scared of crop circles? Why do human beings think that all crop circles are hoaxes? Rhetorical questions, I know. Idiots will respond.
Human beings don't know their ass from a hole in their ass. But they always act like they do. Ignore the scientific proof found at many crop circles, and you act like a typical human being.
I'M NOT SAYING ALL CROP CIRCLES ARE MADE BY ET! I'm not even saying that ANY crop circle HAS been made by ET. But hear what your mind feels comfortable with.
If you don't know the difference between a 'genuine' crop circle and a physically-created hoax circle, then congratulations: you're stupid. Why are most of the posts on this topic so ignorant sounding? Again, rhetorical.
Why are human beings so scared of crop circles? Why do human beings think that all crop circles are hoaxes? Rhetorical questions, I know. Idiots will respond.
Human beings don't know their ass from a hole in their ass. But they always act like they do. Ignore the scientific proof found at many crop circles, and you act like a typical human being.
I'M NOT SAYING ALL CROP CIRCLES ARE MADE BY ET! I'm not even saying that ANY crop circle HAS been made by ET. But hear what your mind feels comfortable with.
If you don't know the difference between a 'genuine' crop circle and a physically-created hoax circle, then congratulations: you're stupid. Why are most of the posts on this topic so ignorant sounding? Again, rhetorical.
Why are human beings so scared of crop circles? Why do human beings think that all crop circles are hoaxes? Rhetorical questions, I know. Idiots will respond.
Human beings don't know their ass from a hole in their ass. But they always act like they do. Ignore the scientific proof found at many crop circles, and you act like a typical human being.
I'M NOT SAYING ALL CROP CIRCLES ARE MADE BY ET! I'm not even saying that ANY crop circle HAS been made by ET. But hear what your mind feels comfortable with.
If you don't know the difference between a 'genuine' crop circle and a physically-created hoax circle, then congratulations: you're stupid. Why are most of the posts on this topic so ignorant sounding? Again, rhetorical.
For starters, some quality research on this very topic:
Fer De Lance - Briefing on Soviet Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons
Scalar Wars - The Brave New World of Scalar Electromagnetics
And for those with Acrobat Reader...
The Motionless Electromagnetic Generator
"Everything you know is wrong!"
The shortness they speak of indeed applies to life in the year 2003. Take them seriously.
Listen to other advertisements as well, from ANY corporation. Hear the second meaning in doubly-spoken phrases. The public is being psychologically prepared for certain 'concepts', though they don't realize this yet.
Life IS short. Be ready to attempt to prolong it.
Most of these programs are intended to cause one common thought among viewers: make them believe that the near future is guaranteed to be not much different than the present. But what about the many programs I've seen on such cable channels, that speak of natural disasters, catastrophes, ancient prophecies about the 'end'?? That's a different message altogether, right? Depends on what the public really cares about. And I can safely say that the public usually doesn't care about anything that doesn't directly concern them. And that's usually everything that they aren't intelligent enough to be concerned about, as a collective. Evolution is just one of many things that the public truly doesn't understand because of the skew in what is taught and how, AND the skew in what is researched. Teaching more than one thing leads to independent thought and the increased ability to make decisions, the worst thing to do if the public is to remain easily distracted and manipulated via money. That aside, what I choose to stress is the pattern in programming on these channels, not simply a collection of mutually exclusive information sessions. The entire scope of sciences being discussed across the breadth of cable channels paints a picture, if you know what the canvas looks like.
Sounds like you're on the platform ideally suited to your "level". How is that news?
Causality seems like coincidence until it's proven. Seen any SOHO footage lately? Lots of new stuff flying around this neck of the galactic woods.
I suppose complainers are too. As are those who promptly smack them down.