It seems to me that the removal of that statement is simply a CYA thing. It's pretty clear (to my feeble mind, at least) that they are running some version of Wine/Crossover and therefore alot of MS programs *will* run - those that won't may run later as updates are written and distributed. The big thing here is Wal Mart facing off against Microsoft. Sam Walton is a very powerful man, he obviously isn't standing for Microsoft's bullying tactics - and is willing to take some major risks to prove it. How major these risks are is not a question I can answer. Wal Marts huge success as a company is not some stroke of cosmic luck; I feel like they must know what they are doing. When Joe Bob sees that he can have a PC for 299$, he may actually go and get one for the first time. We may be seeing the beginnings of the revolution that we have all wondered when, how and if it ever would or *could* happen. Let's cross our fingers.
A consumer version of this,(with a dumbed up ui) would probably do well with home broadband providers. A lot of them will provide NICs anyway. Offer Joe consumer the (added value, of course) option of *hardware firewalling* and badda bing.
You can deposit my check with Pay-Pal, Time Warner...
I didn't see when if and it would be available in the US. It certainly seems like the integration of services I've really been holding out for in a device. Now if they could only shrink it down to wristwatch size....
"When toilets become YAMM, you'll be forbiden to fart in any way that sounds like Microsoft or Bill Gates"
In light of this, I'm working on a sphincter filter to be released under the POPL (Posterior Orifii Public License) since, AFAIK, everthing that comes out of there sounds like Microsoft to me. A fecal patch is also in the works.
Personally, if a doctor needed to perform a bone biopsy on me (what I understand Minrad's device does) and he says "We're going to be using the Light Sabre today...." all he would be seeing of me is my backside heading out the front door.
I would have to agree -- if not John Tesh. Or Yanni (sp?)(sp!) The quote at the end of that article really puts it in a nutshell though...
"It's a dreadful, dreadful thing to contaminate the sound deliberately, says Martin Colloms, a British hi-fi expert whose columns are syndicated around the world. "We all hate piracy but the idea of mucking up the sound of a recording is reprehensible. It's like slashing paintings in a gallery to stop someone stealing them."
This is like the dirtiest hack imaginable - I would be embarrassed to even acknowledge the invention of such a lame means of copy protection. Sick. Even if it is (forgive me) Kenny G...
I'm there. I bought more CD's as a result of Napster, no doubt about it. I also like the idea of buying used CD's - hell, with one of those Skip Doctors nearly any CD is recoverable:)
I understand the RIAA being worried about protecting their interests - what I don't understand is that they can be so completely clueless as to what actually is in their best interest...
I work for a startup - if you don't know your stuff you are on the sidewalk. If you need to learn new stuff, you just do it. We have no budget for anything of the sort, besides that, I think self-motivators are what we look for. There's never a problem getting hardware or software to work with - that is a good thing.
Curiousity is what got me into IT. Curiousity is what keeps me in IT. As long as there are new and better ways to do things, I will want learn how to make these processes tick. I will do it whether I'm working for someone or not because I'm curiousity-driven. If something comes up that I just can't for the life of me wrap my brain around, I look for someone who has. About 99% of the time that information is buried somewhere on our lovely little Internet.
I'm not saying training is for wimps (really, I'm not) - hell, if your company is willing to shell out the big bucks for ya, go for it - but I do believe that self teaching in a hands on environment is where hardcore memory retention occurs. And if I can't remember it, I haven't learned it:)
Created by man as art = art. The medium is irrelevant.
Created by computer = math. The computer is incapable of expression, i.e. "declaring" art.
Is the code that allows a computer to generate images randomly (or not) art? Yes, if it is presented thusly. I don't believe the reappropriation of medium is an issue either.
Brahms was influenced by everything he heard, as was Limp Bizkit.
The article is comparing apples to oranges. Oranges that have been in development for nearly 15 years compared to the apples 2 or 3 even.
And in the 2 years I've been involved with the linux thang, WAY more has happened development and usability-wise than Microsloths cathedral could possibly hope to achieve.
I think this guy is just looking to ruffle feathers, stir some people up. He hasn't been paying close enough attention to the communtiy to really have a clue IMO.
He probably got picked on alot by an older sister as well.
I should not be posting, as I am quite drunk on Yagermeister. BUT -- being a Linux/Windows sysadmin (is that bi?) I find this article particularly hilarious/intriguing/hopeful. So there are alot of script kiddies out there just prone to doing damage and otherwise very fscked up shiite. Why not work for the right side of the force? I happen to work for a company (name withheld - faux humility) whose product, although profitable for us, is a noble and useful thing. Companies that are wise enough to use it often save half a million and up -- Mainly helping geeks like ourselves as well as others to be gainfully employed in a fraction of the time it might normally take. All the fluff aside - we are a mixed linux/windoze environment and to be frank, ILOVEYOU seriously kicked our asses for at least 3 hours. Just the thought that someone would write an anti-worm gives me great hope, even FAITH in the human condition. Some folks deserve massive downtime, I agree, but some definitely do not. More power to this digital angel I say! Linux renewed my faith in computing - but I have found that the ones today who really have huevos are those who are truly platform independent. And that does mean Windoze. And VBS. And Activex.(excuse my vomit).
I feel like a geek Rodney King here - but the goddamn salespeople have got to use something they can somewhat understand! Lusers or not. Am I not right?
I'm getting off subject - great post though. Got me fired up.
I don't find this piece surprising at all - it fits perfectly with MSCorps entire "freedom from choice" approach. The more proprietary the better. This is the kind of gestapo behaviour that has turned folks against Microsoft from the very beginning and will continue to in the future (apparently). To acquire and imitate (or steal) technology and then make the original obsolete is one of Microsoft's signature business practices and one of the reasons we love to hate them.
I'd really like to see how they plan to prevent third party codecs from being distributed and run on xp boxes - the fact is, they probably can't.
So this "announcement" will one day amount to no more than a bluster of corporate flatulence serving to validate further what we already know about how Microsoft operates.
I really don't get what these people are afraid of. Do they actually think their financial security as a corporation is threatened? Or is it paranoia from the past (being 'stolen' from -- but Xerox PARC doesn't count...)
Marketing is definitely a killer - I never saw it on the shelves either - the only distribution I ever got of Stormix was in a Linux mag - forget which one -
Unfortunately there a lot of folks in this world that can't detect a figurative reference if it landed on their doorstep. There's an entire group for people like that - I think they call them "Fundamentalists"....
This is what it's all about really - Darwinism and survival of the fittest. If Stormix had totally kicked ass to the point that everyone took notice and lots of began actually using it, it would still be around. Common sense. Some distros are bound to go the way of the toilet while others flourish.
Thank god for what we do have - a plethera (sp?) of distributions left to choose from. Unfortunately the same rule is working against the open source community in the kingdom of the web browser. I personally believe that is our biggest hurdle to overcome, not faltering distros of Linux. Redhat, Debian, Slackware and Mandrake aren't going down anytime soon. AFAIK.
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It seems to me that the removal of that statement is simply a CYA thing. It's pretty clear (to my feeble mind, at least) that they are running some version of Wine/Crossover and therefore alot of MS programs *will* run - those that won't may run later as updates are written and distributed.
The big thing here is Wal Mart facing off against Microsoft. Sam Walton is a very powerful man, he obviously isn't standing for Microsoft's bullying tactics - and is willing to take some major risks to prove it. How major these risks are is not a question I can answer. Wal Marts huge success as a company is not some stroke of cosmic luck; I feel like they must know what they are doing. When Joe Bob sees that he can have a PC for 299$, he may actually go and get one for the first time. We may be seeing the beginnings of the revolution that we have all wondered when, how and if it ever would or *could* happen. Let's cross our fingers.
A consumer version of this,(with a dumbed up ui) would probably do well with home broadband providers. A lot of them will provide NICs anyway. Offer Joe consumer the (added value, of course) option of *hardware firewalling* and badda bing.
You can deposit my check with Pay-Pal, Time Warner...
I didn't see when if and it would be available in the US. It certainly seems like the integration of services I've really been holding out for in a device. Now if they could only shrink it down to wristwatch size....
I can't think of a more deserving band to unleash this career-rupturing idea upon.
Let hope the Backspleen Boyz follow.
That was the first things that popped into my mind.
AI1 to AI2:
"Hey, it says that humans make pretty decent batteries.."
"Wow - maybe we should stop exterminating them and start *farming* them instead.."
"Hmmmm..."
"When toilets become YAMM, you'll be forbiden to fart in any way that sounds like Microsoft or Bill Gates"
In light of this, I'm working on a sphincter filter to be released under the POPL (Posterior Orifii Public License) since, AFAIK, everthing that comes out of there sounds like Microsoft to me. A fecal patch is also in the works.
Personally, if a doctor needed to perform a bone biopsy on me (what I understand Minrad's device does) and he says "We're going to be using the Light Sabre today...." all he would be seeing of me is my backside heading out the front door.
This is like the dirtiest hack imaginable - I would be embarrassed to even acknowledge the invention of such a lame means of copy protection. Sick. Even if it is (forgive me) Kenny G...
I'm there. I bought more CD's as a result of Napster, no doubt about it. I also like the idea of buying used CD's - hell, with one of those Skip Doctors nearly any CD is recoverable :)
I understand the RIAA being worried about protecting their interests - what I don't understand is that they can be so completely clueless as to what actually is in their best interest...
I work for a startup - if you don't know your stuff you are on the sidewalk. If you need to learn new stuff, you just do it. We have no budget for anything of the sort, besides that, I think self-motivators are what we look for. There's never a problem getting hardware or software to work with - that is a good thing.
Curiousity is what got me into IT. Curiousity is what keeps me in IT. As long as there are new and better ways to do things, I will want learn how to make these processes tick. I will do it whether I'm working for someone or not because I'm curiousity-driven. If something comes up that I just can't for the life of me wrap my brain around, I look for someone who has. About 99% of the time that information is buried somewhere on our lovely little Internet.
I'm not saying training is for wimps (really, I'm not) - hell, if your company is willing to shell out the big bucks for ya, go for it - but I do believe that self teaching in a hands on environment is where hardcore memory retention occurs. And if I can't remember it, I haven't learned it :)
Created by man as art = art. The medium is irrelevant. Created by computer = math. The computer is incapable of expression, i.e. "declaring" art. Is the code that allows a computer to generate images randomly (or not) art? Yes, if it is presented thusly. I don't believe the reappropriation of medium is an issue either. Brahms was influenced by everything he heard, as was Limp Bizkit.
Coolermaster. Still a fan, still makes some moise, but quieter than average and extremely efficient in the air-moving department.
The article is comparing apples to oranges. Oranges that have been in development for nearly 15 years compared to the apples 2 or 3 even. And in the 2 years I've been involved with the linux thang, WAY more has happened development and usability-wise than Microsloths cathedral could possibly hope to achieve. I think this guy is just looking to ruffle feathers, stir some people up. He hasn't been paying close enough attention to the communtiy to really have a clue IMO. He probably got picked on alot by an older sister as well.
I should not be posting, as I am quite drunk on Yagermeister. BUT -- being a Linux/Windows sysadmin (is that bi?) I find this article particularly hilarious/intriguing/hopeful. So there are alot of script kiddies out there just prone to doing damage and otherwise very fscked up shiite. Why not work for the right side of the force? I happen to work for a company (name withheld - faux humility) whose product, although profitable for us, is a noble and useful thing. Companies that are wise enough to use it often save half a million and up -- Mainly helping geeks like ourselves as well as others to be gainfully employed in a fraction of the time it might normally take. All the fluff aside - we are a mixed linux/windoze environment and to be frank, ILOVEYOU seriously kicked our asses for at least 3 hours. Just the thought that someone would write an anti-worm gives me great hope, even FAITH in the human condition. Some folks deserve massive downtime, I agree, but some definitely do not. More power to this digital angel I say! Linux renewed my faith in computing - but I have found that the ones today who really have huevos are those who are truly platform independent. And that does mean Windoze. And VBS. And Activex.(excuse my vomit).
I feel like a geek Rodney King here - but the goddamn salespeople have got to use something they can somewhat understand! Lusers or not. Am I not right?
I'm getting off subject - great post though. Got me fired up.
They oviously haven't tried NOSMOKE.EXE...
Ssh...you'll wake the keys...
Right on.
I don't find this piece surprising at all - it fits perfectly with MSCorps entire "freedom from choice" approach. The more proprietary the better. This is the kind of gestapo behaviour that has turned folks against Microsoft from the very beginning and will continue to in the future (apparently). To acquire and imitate (or steal) technology and then make the original obsolete is one of Microsoft's signature business practices and one of the reasons we love to hate them.
I'd really like to see how they plan to prevent third party codecs from being distributed and run on xp boxes - the fact is, they probably can't. So this "announcement" will one day amount to no more than a bluster of corporate flatulence serving to validate further what we already know about how Microsoft operates.What are, if any, Redhat's plans for the enterprise desktop? Has there been any consideration towards working with Ximian?
I really don't get what these people are afraid of. Do they actually think their financial security as a corporation is threatened? Or is it paranoia from the past (being 'stolen' from -- but Xerox PARC doesn't count...)
Marketing is definitely a killer - I never saw it on the shelves either - the only distribution I ever got of Stormix was in a Linux mag - forget which one -
Unfortunately there a lot of folks in this world that can't detect a figurative reference if it landed on their doorstep. There's an entire group for people like that - I think they call them "Fundamentalists"....
Just a moron.
This is what it's all about really - Darwinism and survival of the fittest. If Stormix had totally kicked ass to the point that everyone took notice and lots of began actually using it, it would still be around. Common sense. Some distros are bound to go the way of the toilet while others flourish.
Thank god for what we do have - a plethera (sp?) of distributions left to choose from. Unfortunately the same rule is working against the open source community in the kingdom of the web browser. I personally believe that is our biggest hurdle to overcome, not faltering distros of Linux. Redhat, Debian, Slackware and Mandrake aren't going down anytime soon. AFAIK.