People will still barter their useful labor with employers in exchange for pay.
Now, they won't have any useful labor to barter with.
Nobody is going to 'take a long hard look at what role people play in society'. You are going to have a clusterf*** of politicians trying line their cronies pockets while the masses basically drop out of the employment system, move in with relatives, etc. Some of them migrate somewhere else. Some will become homeless, some will die from lack of health care.
A good portion of them might get retraining and new employment. Of course, that takes money a lot of them don't have and can't get.
when i was an IT i had a system down where i had a 'restore partition' on every computer. i could reinstall 40 machines, with our special software already installed, in about 20 minutes, it would have scaled pretty damn well too because it used UDPCAST and a 'no centralization' network model, and yes it was heterogeneous hardware, using whatever that MS product is that can help you make disk images.
i believe that if you have your windows machines set up, with all your shitty proprietary software set up, and imaged, then it is possible to do windows pretty safely, so that even if a virus takes it out, you can be up and running in a very short while.
of course, everything depends on the shitty proprietary software sitting on top of windows. if it talks to a central database and leaves things screwed up if there is a client crash, then.. youre still hosed.
and... if the site has no IT person, instead just relying on various low bid contractors to come in at random and do stuff... i guess.. youre f@#$@#$ed in that case.
Even if you have Linux, and you had some proprietary piece of crap on top of it, that talked to 'the cloud', and somehow corrupted the cloud, youd have the same problem.
there might be a big machine manufactured in 1995 that people need to use 30 times a day, but only one person can log on at one time, and logging off/on takes 15 minutes per login... guess what happens? people share passwords because otherwise they couldnt get any work done, but theyd also get fired for having low production numbers on their efficiency reports (because they are standing around all day waiting to logon)
then another vendor decides to outsource their program so now its over the cloud instead of in your company, now your single-sign-on doesnt work anymore, you have 200 employees who now each have 2 passwords instead of 1. and by the way a new timeclock system will now require a 3rd password. and an HR benefits system, a 4th password. voicemail? 5th password. oh and your cafeteria card, 6th password.
what can the IT people do about it? nothing. they dont control what vendors get chosen. they dont control anything really.
as a liberal arts major, i felt that my time spent studying calculus and chemistry was wasted. when would i ever use that garbage in my career as a translator or marketing manager? why should an accountant have to study physics, or a lawyer have to study biology, or a historian have to study C++?
please tell me the last time anyone had to give the derivative of a polynomial function in their day to day job.
there are people willing to do your homework for $2/hour.
i think it's pretty awesome.
eventually companies will start figuring out that college degrees are worthless, and simply start hiring the people off freelancer who have been doing everyones homework.
the crappy, corrupt colleges will die, the securitized student loan industry will die, Sallie Mae will go bankrupt and get bailed out by the government, the cheating students will become jobless and move back in with their parents, and the eastern europeans and indians, who actually know how to do stuff, will be able to charge $4/hour instead of $2/hour, lifting millions of hard working people out of poverty.
if you ask me, this new world will be a better world than what we started with.
in order to keep your job you have to keep your power base in the bureaucracy. in order to keep your power base in the bureaucracy, you have to keep your budget. in order to keep your budget, you need to keep it at the same, or higher, level as last years budget. in order to do this, you have to snowjob any penny pinching meddlers into thinking it's absolutely necessary.
i know someone who works at a huge support center for a certain cellphone carrier. this person has informed me that they spend a good deal of their day telling people to shut off antivirus in order to get their "Modem Cards" (apparently the fashionable name amongst the masses) to work.
produces, then all of this intellectual stuff kind of flies out the window.
imagine your model given input CDO tranche X spits out 'BB'. your customer wants output 'AAA', and threatens to take their multi-million dollar contract to your competitor unless your model is repaired.
there is no 'mistake of historical research' or whatever. there were people pointing out the flaws in these models. they got ignored or fired because there was too much money being made and shareholders liked money.
it is nothing more complicated than what slashdot familiars would be familiar with: video game ratings in video gaming magazines. or better yet, benchmark measurements for CPU speeds. if you can understand the shenanigans and conflicted interests in these two markets, you can understand the crash of 2008.
please see The Big Short, Michael Lewis... The Sellout, Charles Gasparino... Structured Finance and CDOs, Tavakoli... EConned, Yves Smith...., And Then The Roof Caved In, David Faber.... etc etc etc etc .
considering that thousands of barrels a month can come out of a ground well, in order to 'match' that with this technique, you are going to have to take over vast swaths of land with these bacteria oil farms.
and god knows what that would do to the eco system.
"and then the worthless loser Tom Jode attacked the nice policeman's bat with his head, destroying the bat, which cost the company over $20 to replace. Rose of Sharon then, having killed her own child, committed depraved acts of sexual fetish with a random stranger. "
'Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt''... those last two are the foundations of philosophy, which is the foundation of western civilization. i dont know why youd want to be against doubt... thats like being against argument and reason.
example: if Sun had listened to more doubters, who asked questions like 'how can you make money by giving away open office for free' or 'how come your income is going down the toilet, what are you going to do about cheap intelinux boxes destroying your market?'... then maybe the Beardman of Alcatraz wouldn't have taken them over with his samurai sword.
There was an incredibly high quality, low budget film called The Bridge, it followed the fictional story of a young scientology member as she goes through the 'Bridge to Total Freedom'. I don't want to spoil it but it goes into a lot of detail about scientology stuff, like the 'state of clear' and how much it costs to get there, what its like working for the org, the tactics they use, the 'supressive person' thing, etc.
Scientology threatened and intimidated the filmmaker, so now he basically disowns the film and downplays anything he had to do with it.
you can probably find it on the web... maybe.
there were people making fun of him on the web back in 2000/2001, i think they even bought a domain name similar to his name. and he said 'there is such a thing as too much freedom'.
and i love your hatred of communism... what country was your computer made in again?
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People will still barter their useful labor with employers in exchange for pay.
Now, they won't have any useful labor to barter with.
Nobody is going to 'take a long hard look at what role people play in society'. You are going to have a clusterf*** of politicians trying line their cronies pockets while the masses basically drop out of the employment system, move in with relatives, etc. Some of them migrate somewhere else. Some will become homeless, some will die from lack of health care.
A good portion of them might get retraining and new employment. Of course, that takes money a lot of them don't have and can't get.
"What would be a good definition artificial intelligence that wouldn't be subject to goalpost moving?"
When the AI starts chiming in on where the goalpoast is, and giving us suggestions, I think then we can hang our hats and go home as a dying species.
if someone gives you a gift that keeps you from going out of business, you are not independent.
unless, perhaps, you pay them back.
when i was an IT i had a system down where i had a 'restore partition' on every computer. i could reinstall 40 machines, with our special software already installed, in about 20 minutes, it would have scaled pretty damn well too because it used UDPCAST and a 'no centralization' network model, and yes it was heterogeneous hardware, using whatever that MS product is that can help you make disk images.
i believe that if you have your windows machines set up, with all your shitty proprietary software set up, and imaged, then it is possible to do windows pretty safely, so that even if a virus takes it out, you can be up and running in a very short while.
of course, everything depends on the shitty proprietary software sitting on top of windows. if it talks to a central database and leaves things screwed up if there is a client crash, then .. youre still hosed.
and... if the site has no IT person, instead just relying on various low bid contractors to come in at random and do stuff... i guess.. youre f@#$@#$ed in that case.
Even if you have Linux, and you had some proprietary piece of crap on top of it, that talked to 'the cloud', and somehow corrupted the cloud, youd have the same problem.
No silver bullets.
if i had all the money it costs per month for one of these phones, i would uhm, probably use it to buy food and clothes.
and journalistic techniques, such as having multiple sources confirm the same story.
next up... Target hires people to shoplift.
oh wait, that'd be a complete and utter waste of time and money.
the whole thing falls apart.
there might be a big machine manufactured in 1995 that people need to use 30 times a day, but only one person can log on at one time, and logging off/on takes 15 minutes per login... guess what happens? people share passwords because otherwise they couldnt get any work done, but theyd also get fired for having low production numbers on their efficiency reports (because they are standing around all day waiting to logon)
then another vendor decides to outsource their program so now its over the cloud instead of in your company, now your single-sign-on doesnt work anymore, you have 200 employees who now each have 2 passwords instead of 1. and by the way a new timeclock system will now require a 3rd password. and an HR benefits system, a 4th password. voicemail? 5th password. oh and your cafeteria card, 6th password.
what can the IT people do about it? nothing. they dont control what vendors get chosen. they dont control anything really.
"just walk on and hand someone a ticket."
all of the slashdot-reading suicide bombers just had a lightbulb go off in their heads
all those little podunk towns have the same rights as the people in cities.
unless you dont believe in equality under the law?
as a liberal arts major, i felt that my time spent studying calculus and chemistry was wasted. when would i ever use that garbage in my career as a translator or marketing manager? why should an accountant have to study physics, or a lawyer have to study biology, or a historian have to study C++?
please tell me the last time anyone had to give the derivative of a polynomial function in their day to day job.
there are people willing to do your homework for $2/hour.
i think it's pretty awesome.
eventually companies will start figuring out that college degrees are worthless, and simply start hiring the people off freelancer who have been doing everyones homework.
the crappy, corrupt colleges will die, the securitized student loan industry will die, Sallie Mae will go bankrupt and get bailed out by the government, the cheating students will become jobless and move back in with their parents, and the eastern europeans and indians, who actually know how to do stuff, will be able to charge $4/hour instead of $2/hour, lifting millions of hard working people out of poverty.
if you ask me, this new world will be a better world than what we started with.
"the relatively high cost of offshore wind energy;"
think about this for a moment. what would have happened if they had decided it cost too much to put lasers on sharks?
we wouldn't have any shark based lasers then would we? and then Hitler would have won World War I, and we'd all be speaking Japanese.
although "eat me" "drink me" is a close second
in order to keep your job you have to keep your power base in the bureaucracy.
in order to keep your power base in the bureaucracy, you have to keep your budget.
in order to keep your budget, you need to keep it at the same, or higher, level as last years budget.
in order to do this, you have to snowjob any penny pinching meddlers into thinking it's absolutely necessary.
i know someone who works at a huge support center for a certain cellphone carrier. this person has informed me that they spend a good deal of their day telling people to shut off antivirus in order to get their "Modem Cards" (apparently the fashionable name amongst the masses) to work.
produces, then all of this intellectual stuff kind of flies out the window.
imagine your model given input CDO tranche X spits out 'BB'. your customer wants output 'AAA', and threatens to take their multi-million dollar contract to your competitor unless your model is repaired.
there is no 'mistake of historical research' or whatever. there were people pointing out the flaws in these models. they got ignored or fired because there was too much money being made and shareholders liked money.
it is nothing more complicated than what slashdot familiars would be familiar with: video game ratings in video gaming magazines. or better yet, benchmark measurements for CPU speeds. if you can understand the shenanigans and conflicted interests in these two markets, you can understand the crash of 2008.
please see The Big Short, Michael Lewis ... The Sellout, Charles Gasparino... Structured Finance and CDOs, Tavakoli... EConned, Yves Smith...., And Then The Roof Caved In, David Faber.... etc etc etc etc .
congratulations Sponge Bath, you have passed 'government commission reports 101'.
considering that thousands of barrels a month can come out of a ground well, in order to 'match' that with this technique, you are going to have to take over vast swaths of land with these bacteria oil farms. and god knows what that would do to the eco system.
"and then the worthless loser Tom Jode attacked the nice policeman's bat with his head, destroying the bat, which cost the company over $20 to replace. Rose of Sharon then, having killed her own child, committed depraved acts of sexual fetish with a random stranger. "
Near... Far! Near.... Far! In the old days you could learn programming from sesame street.
god help the woman who uses a female ID on slashdot
'Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt''... those last two are the foundations of philosophy, which is the foundation of western civilization. i dont know why youd want to be against doubt... thats like being against argument and reason. example: if Sun had listened to more doubters, who asked questions like 'how can you make money by giving away open office for free' or 'how come your income is going down the toilet, what are you going to do about cheap intelinux boxes destroying your market?'... then maybe the Beardman of Alcatraz wouldn't have taken them over with his samurai sword.
There was an incredibly high quality, low budget film called The Bridge, it followed the fictional story of a young scientology member as she goes through the 'Bridge to Total Freedom'. I don't want to spoil it but it goes into a lot of detail about scientology stuff, like the 'state of clear' and how much it costs to get there, what its like working for the org, the tactics they use, the 'supressive person' thing, etc. Scientology threatened and intimidated the filmmaker, so now he basically disowns the film and downplays anything he had to do with it. you can probably find it on the web... maybe.
there were people making fun of him on the web back in 2000/2001, i think they even bought a domain name similar to his name. and he said 'there is such a thing as too much freedom'. and i love your hatred of communism... what country was your computer made in again?