i've run both yellowdog 3.0 and gentoo on an ancient imac (rev a). when the hardware is that slow, you notice small speed gains more. while yellowdog is pretty snappy and has the ease-of-use advantage (anaconda, yum &c.), the gentoo was noticably faster.
be warned - to get the boosts yr going to have to start at a low stage install and this results in a looong install time. on my imac it took (wait for it) a week to install. and updates take forever too. but, as long as you read up on your use flags and set them well you'll get a fast core system.
yes, but, the prerformance of yr linux-on-mac set up will depend a lot on the distro.
note that almost all ppc binaries are just that... ppc binaries. no optimizations for g3 let alone g5. these binaries are designed run on a 601! so, if you want to get real performance out of yr linux-mac run something like gentoo...
spammers are using open relays and hiding under anonymous accounts already. How will they bill them?
ah... but if spammer x sends a boatload of herbal viagra offers under bob's relay and bob gets a bill... then when they do catch spammer x he can be nabbed under wire fraud laws and be open to all sorts of tasty civil action.
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from a marketing perspective (for commercial sites) its suicide.
i totally agree. i think the point of the boycott is to reduce the breadth of the msn search results - not eliminate all sites from the engine.
breadth is important because it allows a search engine to say "x million sites indexed" - which to a lot of people is an indicator of a search engine's quality. additionally, breadth allows for better focusing of queries.
so, if msn gets all the commercial sites but misses out on the blogs and hobby sites that don't require revenue... all the better for google.
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er. it's meant to be "tounge in cheek". you must be aware of the concept of sarcasm since you use it so liberally yourself...
sheesh.
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So, without any evidence, you've proclaimed Google the winner for all eternity because you like them?
i'm proclaiming google the winner because i am actively working against the microsoft search by participating in the boycott
if you have a website and want to participate in the boycott it's darn simple.
er. reduced from what? last year? last century? i am talking about police protection levels lower than they are currently - hence the word "reduced". you are talking about... i'm not sure what.
subsidized education -- Subsidized by whom?
it's been a long time since i've been to the states... do they have cover charges for high school now?
general infrastructure -- The roads in SIlicon Valley are collapsing.
the roads in silicon valley exist. were they created on the sixth day by god?
unemployment and old age security -- Social Security is approaching insolvency.
and paying less tax will help this... how? social security exists. is this another "sixth day" creation? nope. taxes, my lad.
public safety (ie fda inspections) -- We had 9/11 and now mad cow. That's the kind of 'saftey' we get for our 50%.
thanks for bringing up mad cow. thanks to your tax dollars, the infected beef was caught at the distribution level and prevented from ever getting to market. is less tax worth dying of vCJD?
100% of all taxes collected in the U.S. go to pay the interest on the debt
well, looking at the wikipedia page on the the us national debt, i notice that it says "47% of personal income taxes" go to servicing the debt. no corporate taxes, no sales taxes, no "sin" taxes - just personal income taxes, and less than half at that.
now, that's still a huge debt-servicing cost, but it isn't, as you claim, "100% of all taxes collected in the U.S.".
well... i just got out my pay stub and a calculator and added up all my deductions: federal, proviincial, cpp, ei and my voluntary "extra deduction" (to ensure i don't get a bill at tax time) and it came to...
26.3%
which is more than 16 but still way less than 30... and i live in canada! where we have things like single payer health care and government subsidies for just about everything...
nothing personal, but it sounds like you americans are getting ripped off! more tax, less service... sheesh.
probably almost as well off in many other contries working for $10 than $20 in the US. You don't have to pay 30% income tax
30% tax on $20/hr? even here in "socialist" canada it's more like 16%. i think you have a "fact problem"
i assume you think that your taxes just evaporate or something. are you willing to live with reduced:
police protection
health care
subsidized education
general infrastructure
unemployment and old age security
public safety (ie fda inspections)
price controls on inelastic commodities
space program
You can sleep well at night knowing if you are a crack addict the government will pay your way through rehab
this is obviously a Bad Idea. it should be the goal of the government to ensure there are as many untreated crack heads roaming around the streets as possible.
you are going to pay for society's drug problems one way or another. you can either pony up some tax to get crack heads off the street, into rehab and turn them into productive citizens... or you can ignore the problem and pay in lost economic productivity, increased policing costs and in one lump cash payment when that untreated crack head sticks you up for a fix.
We keep throwing away American tax dollars at foreign nations only to be the most hated country in the world
are you counting the cost of cluster bombs as a foreign aid expense?
seriously. do you know who the single biggest recipient of us foreign aid is? israel. thirty per cent of foreign aid goes to that nation - and they are not you enemy.
of course, the us doesn't hand out foreign aid for free. packages often come with spending restrictions that are geared towards ingratiating the recipient country to the donor and then there are saps - structural adjustment policies - whereby aid is conditional upon economic reforms in the recipient country that are beneficial to the us corporate sector.
hint: learn something about how foreign aid works and what it does before commenting on it.
They should raise their nations taxes by several billion a year and take over babbysiting the rest of the world then
all the countries of the world that take part in un peacekeeping missions find your suggestion ludicrous and insulting.
Already increasing numbers of useful libraries are being GPLed
well, libraries usually realeased under the lgpl - which is designed to be less viral than the gpl. give the lgpl a read. it's a Good Thing for libraries.
and i can say that the single biggest barrier to communication is... the accents. imagine a conference call with ali g. and boss hogg. that's what my day is like...
not nearly as entertaining as migrating all my servers.
The end of life for RH distros was not a surprise
no. they gave plenty of warning. i used that time to look at other distros.
If you want enterprise level support, $349 is not a bad price
true. although it's significantly more than the cost of rh9 rhn entitlements.
You claim fedora is an "untested hobby distro" which tells me you've never seen it.
this tells me that you are a hobbiest.
I have upgraded several RH 8 and RH 9 servers to fedora, remotely, and they remained in service the whole time
score one for fedora. woot!
let's get this straight: i spent a lot of my life in a red hat world. i have bought boxed sets of 5.1, 6.2, 7.3, 8 and 9. i bought bob young's mediocre book. i fought tooth and nail to roll red hat into my previous place of employ. i have been a red hat evangalist since 5.1.
so dismiss me as an "anti red hat activst" or whatever, if that sort of label makes you feel comfortable but you know what i really am? the kid who goes to the 7/11 in 1986 and sees shelves of "new coke".
To me it says that 75% of the Apache administrators on Linux boxes have tought about security.
to me, it says that a lot of mid-sized sites got burned with red hat's recent killing of rh9. when the option is either a) pony up $400 or b) move to this untested hobby distro (fedora) that requires a complete re-install anyway, people start looking at other distros.
so, yeah, i'll be migrating our twelve servers from red hat to suse sometime in the next month or so.
what will happen to SCO and it's silly licenses....
more interesting is what will happen to the companies that paid the licensing fees. if they decide they've been ripped off (well, that's only a matter of time) they're going to have a bejesus of a time recouping their costs. there will definitely be civil action. that's a given. but will there be criminal action to follow suit?
you can't sell the brooklyn bridge to tourists, after all. they put you in jail for that.
the real problem is factoring the total cost of the product. not just the price.
ask yourself if the "cheaper" product:
has contributed to local unemployment by relocating offshore. higher unemployment means a slower economy and thus, greater cost.
does not adhere to high environmental standards. you know who's going to pay for cleaning up the manufacturer's mess eventually, don't you? you.
has a lower use life through negligence or design. if you buy 2 frying pans in your life at $50 each, it's cheaper than 12 at $10.
what's the disposal cost of your shiny new widget? you'll pay it eventually through taxes. remember those 12 frying pans.
since there are viturally no laws demanding disclosure by manufacturers, calculating the real cost of products is a left to a lot of guessing and assuming.
my general rules: look for the union tag, pay too much, avoid dubious materials (pvc fr instance), dedicate yrself to buying one for the rest of your life when possible.
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right. think "daemon".
microsoft just uses the word "service" because sco owns the word "daemon".
i submit it could actually be less secure...
yikes!
be warned - to get the boosts yr going to have to start at a low stage install and this results in a looong install time. on my imac it took (wait for it) a week to install. and updates take forever too. but, as long as you read up on your use flags and set them well you'll get a fast core system.
note that almost all ppc binaries are just that... ppc binaries. no optimizations for g3 let alone g5. these binaries are designed run on a 601! so, if you want to get real performance out of yr linux-mac run something like gentoo...
like... postmaster maybe?
just remember, if you always put your email down as postmaster@localhost, you'll never get spam.
i just bought red hat el es not three hours ago... and the eula had an indemnification clause in it. at least i'm getting something for my $349.
ah... but if spammer x sends a boatload of herbal viagra offers under bob's relay and bob gets a bill... then when they do catch spammer x he can be nabbed under wire fraud laws and be open to all sorts of tasty civil action.
i totally agree. i think the point of the boycott is to reduce the breadth of the msn search results - not eliminate all sites from the engine.
breadth is important because it allows a search engine to say "x million sites indexed" - which to a lot of people is an indicator of a search engine's quality. additionally, breadth allows for better focusing of queries.
so, if msn gets all the commercial sites but misses out on the blogs and hobby sites that don't require revenue... all the better for google.
sheesh.
i'm proclaiming google the winner because i am actively working against the microsoft search by participating in the boycott
if you have a website and want to participate in the boycott it's darn simple.
User-agent: MSNBOT
Disallow: /
then, sit back in triumph that you have struck another blow to the jugular of the beast of redmond.
no. really.
er. reduced from what? last year? last century? i am talking about police protection levels lower than they are currently - hence the word "reduced". you are talking about... i'm not sure what.
subsidized education -- Subsidized by whom?
it's been a long time since i've been to the states... do they have cover charges for high school now?
general infrastructure -- The roads in SIlicon Valley are collapsing.
the roads in silicon valley exist. were they created on the sixth day by god?
unemployment and old age security -- Social Security is approaching insolvency.
and paying less tax will help this... how? social security exists. is this another "sixth day" creation? nope. taxes, my lad.
public safety (ie fda inspections) -- We had 9/11 and now mad cow. That's the kind of 'saftey' we get for our 50%.
thanks for bringing up mad cow. thanks to your tax dollars, the infected beef was caught at the distribution level and prevented from ever getting to market. is less tax worth dying of vCJD?
100% of all taxes collected in the U.S. go to pay the interest on the debt
well, looking at the wikipedia page on the the us national debt, i notice that it says "47% of personal income taxes" go to servicing the debt. no corporate taxes, no sales taxes, no "sin" taxes - just personal income taxes, and less than half at that.
now, that's still a huge debt-servicing cost, but it isn't, as you claim, "100% of all taxes collected in the U.S.".
Ha ha. Man are you the one who is ignorant:
back at you pal.
just because the americans and russians didn't nuke each other doesn't mean the pakistanis and indians won't.
assuming the us/ussr situation has any bearing on the india/pakistan situation is post hoc ergo propter hoc.
26.3%
which is more than 16 but still way less than 30... and i live in canada! where we have things like single payer health care and government subsidies for just about everything...
nothing personal, but it sounds like you americans are getting ripped off! more tax, less service... sheesh.
You can sleep well at night knowing if you are a crack addict the government will pay your way through rehab
this is obviously a Bad Idea. it should be the goal of the government to ensure there are as many untreated crack heads roaming around the streets as possible.
you are going to pay for society's drug problems one way or another. you can either pony up some tax to get crack heads off the street, into rehab and turn them into productive citizens... or you can ignore the problem and pay in lost economic productivity, increased policing costs and in one lump cash payment when that untreated crack head sticks you up for a fix.
We keep throwing away American tax dollars at foreign nations only to be the most hated country in the world
are you counting the cost of cluster bombs as a foreign aid expense?
seriously. do you know who the single biggest recipient of us foreign aid is? israel. thirty per cent of foreign aid goes to that nation - and they are not you enemy.
of course, the us doesn't hand out foreign aid for free. packages often come with spending restrictions that are geared towards ingratiating the recipient country to the donor and then there are saps - structural adjustment policies - whereby aid is conditional upon economic reforms in the recipient country that are beneficial to the us corporate sector.
hint: learn something about how foreign aid works and what it does before commenting on it.
They should raise their nations taxes by several billion a year and take over babbysiting the rest of the world then
all the countries of the world that take part in un peacekeeping missions find your suggestion ludicrous and insulting.
if you rent a three day movie and never get around to seeing it, you can either a) return it or b) voluntarily eat the late fee and watch it.
with disposable dvd's you don't get this option....
well, libraries usually realeased under the lgpl - which is designed to be less viral than the gpl. give the lgpl a read. it's a Good Thing for libraries.
ah disney. they took victor hugo's classic "the hunchback of notre dame" and gave us...
the lunchbox of notre dame.
and i can say that the single biggest barrier to communication is... the accents. imagine a conference call with ali g. and boss hogg. that's what my day is like...
not nearly as entertaining as migrating all my servers.
The end of life for RH distros was not a surprise
no. they gave plenty of warning. i used that time to look at other distros.
If you want enterprise level support, $349 is not a bad price
true. although it's significantly more than the cost of rh9 rhn entitlements.
You claim fedora is an "untested hobby distro" which tells me you've never seen it.
this tells me that you are a hobbiest.
I have upgraded several RH 8 and RH 9 servers to fedora, remotely, and they remained in service the whole time
score one for fedora. woot!
let's get this straight: i spent a lot of my life in a red hat world. i have bought boxed sets of 5.1, 6.2, 7.3, 8 and 9. i bought bob young's mediocre book. i fought tooth and nail to roll red hat into my previous place of employ. i have been a red hat evangalist since 5.1.
so dismiss me as an "anti red hat activst" or whatever, if that sort of label makes you feel comfortable but you know what i really am? the kid who goes to the 7/11 in 1986 and sees shelves of "new coke".
to me, it says that a lot of mid-sized sites got burned with red hat's recent killing of rh9. when the option is either a) pony up $400 or b) move to this untested hobby distro (fedora) that requires a complete re-install anyway, people start looking at other distros.
so, yeah, i'll be migrating our twelve servers from red hat to suse sometime in the next month or so.
or perhaps:
of course, the real hardcore would just simply run:
man astrolabe
more interesting is what will happen to the companies that paid the licensing fees. if they decide they've been ripped off (well, that's only a matter of time) they're going to have a bejesus of a time recouping their costs. there will definitely be civil action. that's a given. but will there be criminal action to follow suit?
you can't sell the brooklyn bridge to tourists, after all. they put you in jail for that.
the real problem is factoring the total cost of the product. not just the price.
ask yourself if the "cheaper" product:
since there are viturally no laws demanding disclosure by manufacturers, calculating the real cost of products is a left to a lot of guessing and assuming.
my general rules: look for the union tag, pay too much, avoid dubious materials (pvc fr instance), dedicate yrself to buying one for the rest of your life when possible.
microwave everything!
Much like many newspapers
ah, but how many newspapers are 5" in diameter?