The Israelis take great pains to avoid injuring bystanders. Indeed. Take for example, shooting unarmed UN workers inside the UN compound. Or using 1000 pound bombs on a residential buildings in order to get one guy. Or hellfire missles to take out a car and several other people walking on the street. Or crushing a peace protestor with a bulldozer. Or using bulldozers to "widen" a street by plowing through homes on both sides - regardless of whether they are occupied or not.
These might be isolated incidents, but your "free democracy" isn't exactly a shining example of folks who are "taking great pains to avoid injuring bystanders". I'm not saying that the terrorists aren't trying to kill as many as possible, but it is pretty safe to say that the folks in the IDF and other on that side of the illegal fence aren't making many new friends. Being in a shitty situation shouldn't make them immune to criticism either.
They did have a disconnected phone number, which Joker might of have had some legal crap in their AUP, if so, it does change the situation a bit - but it seems that Joker was kind of a bitch here and the articles don't exactly give shining reviews of their customer service. Seems that the company is living up to their name.
I wonder how much better a distributed system would work . ..
IMHO, the only real change will come after someone hacks the units and Mickey Mouse or OBL wins the presidency or some other position. Until then, Joe Public is going to keep trusting what he is told. Of course, whoever does this will probably be branded a terrorist and given 465 years in prison.
If you've learned anything from history class, it is pretty clear that what the government tells you probably isn't the best for you, but is the best for them. It's sort of like how the guv'mint gave out gas masks for folks in certain cities in Alabama in case of a leak at the local nerve gas disposal facility. It's a nice thought, and will probably make "Bubba" feel safe (and not bug their local elected official, which really is the entire point), but it really isn't worth a damn. Bubba probably didn't get much of an "educashun" but still trusts the folks who wear suits and has the ability to vote. Bubba could be any one of a several million folks in the US who take everything at face value.
That said, I have no idea how liebold actually got so far and actually deployed these machines. The emails and just about everything else about the company just scream incompetence followed by lying to cover their asses. It's like middle managers did all the work. Simply amazing.
Please. We "care" every single time a new link gets posted. It takes work to pick out the master link and set opera to refresh every second - especially when the editors post mirrors.
well, it would help. I don't mean "completely fucking kill you then wear your torso as a hat" nuts, but really folks who got pushed a bit too far by this situation.;)
I'm surprised that there wasn't one person who decided to take out the CEO just because his name was -----------> mentioned on TV the most. I'd put sparkles around that and make it glow if I could. Jack O lanterns would even be seasonal. Alas. ..
I'm afraid that you are viewing this from more of a serious standpoint than mine - which can more or less summarized as "Whoa, fucking cool, some nutcase walked up to Ken Lay and emptied a clip of.45 hollowpoints with a mac 10 into his ass on the courthouse steps and fox news is showing him bleed out TV tonight. .."
Personally, I couldn't care less about Kennny Boy. I didn't lose my retirement nor the savings for my kids to go to college. Hell, I even made money on the market and I'm not even American. But as far as I know, whatever channel broadcasting Ken "picking up some weight" (and one network probably would, over and over and over again) would have quite a ratings jump.
Morbid? Disturbing? Well, of course. But you know there would be folks who would get satisfaction (as short lived as it may be) from watching this on TV - and I'm surprised that one of those folks wasn't disturbed enough (or felt that they had nothing to lose) that they would grab their gun and actually do it. Morbid mathematics really; x number of employees who lost their life savings, y number of employees with guns, etc. It is halloween after all, what better day to discuss morbid things?
Oh. Yeah. Just because someone is a scapegoat doesn't mean they are without blame.
I don't think that was an advocation, I'm just surprised. Given three groups of people - folks who were really upset, folks who owned guns and folks who might be a wee bit unstable - I'm surprised that there wasn't one person who decided to take out the CEO just because his name was mentioned on TV the most./shrug.
/\ Appropriate name no doubt Well, I guess we shouldn't have been surprised. Given the ethics that run through big companies these days, trying to cover their ass after doing something stupid / malicious is a pretty obvious thing to do.
Shit, Ken Lay is still free, and not one of you angry Americans have tried to shoot his ass after he pissed away your retirement and the money for your children's education. Quite frankly, I'm dissapointed, I was kind of hoping for at least one mentally unstable dude with a rifle to go off.
On a side note, I think it is really interesting how quiet this has been. You'd expect the dems to be raising hell in the house and the news media about this, but it just isn't happening. I've seen a bit of news on this, but more on folks proclaiming how bad other countries are in terms of election fraud. Accident? Malicious intent? Lets just say that Brazil created a better system, and they have death squads roaming the streets.
No, I'm sorry. Congress is too busy passing themselves raises in the face of record unemployment and telling the RIAA to threaten first and then file court papers so they hear less whining from the/. folks who pester them. Oh yeah, scrounging money for a whopping $12,000 to go to the families of each American soldier killed in Iraq. Oh. And I think they matched $100,000 Canadian to help contribute in the moving of a killer whale down from Canadian waters.
I believe the white house is thinking of new ways to award Haliburton contracts that nobody else happened to bid on because they weren't quite public.
They CAN hear, they just don't WANT to. All they want is is swag and to be re-elected, and quite frankly, if you're on/. you either don't vote, or the cost benefit ratio for getting your vote is too low to justify working at it. Am I over-generalizing? Certainly. But politics comes down to numbers and just think how many of your representatives in Washington think the way you do, and also have the guts to turn down money or votes to stand behind their beliefs. Give yourself 10 minutes without google and see if you can come up with a list of 20 names.
Oh, yeah, no public defender in civil cases. Basically by the time you step into the courtroom, you've already spent more than you would if you had settled unless you choose to "represent yourself". I somehow doubt pre-paid legal will win your case if they are against lawyers who get paid a lot more./bitter.
get a credit card, buy a office all in one printer with a automatic sheet feeder, insert original, hit copy, go for a couple beers, return the printer, get your $ back (and if you get it within a billing cycle, you don't even pay interest). You can even scan it in at the same time and print it double sided with 4 pages on each page. If you're going to be unethical, might as well go all the way. . . .
alt.binaries for yourt ebook needs. A 4mp camera with a good lens also works;)
I don't think a laptop or a tablet or even a pda would really be all that different for a text book (except for the screen size) with bloat-crobat you can highlight, attonate, etc.
Besides, the last thing that we need to do is give the publishing companies the oppertunity to sell $100 "textbooks" that cost nothing for them to distribute and can't be resold.
One thing I was always wondering is why some state pays 10 million or some other vulgar amount for some kid's textbooks. Wouldn't it be cheaper to write a new one and print your own? Probably the corporate kickbacks prevent any common sense from coming into the decision making process. I'd hate to sound bitter, but it isn't like a math text needs tons of work - there isn't any research to be done (The expectations are already laid out in some document, all that is necessary is to show how to do it and give a couple dozen problems), nor any legal concern about sources, and certainly no shortage of folks who have a masters in math. Of course, I never learned anything from a math book anyways. Granted, history, etc, might be a little more difficult, but it should still be done. If the state invests in a new press, that should cut down the costs of actually printing the book. It is insane to spend upwards of $100 on a single textbook. That's $3,000 for a single class, for one book that will be thrown out in 2 years. It makes more sense to invest the money into better teachers. Of course, that would require common sense. More valid with younger kids, but hey. BTW, a 4MP digital camera and books held on reserve at the library work to save you money quite nicely. alt.binaries.textbooks or something similar would also be money saving solution until the TMAA starts serving lawsuits.
how about not using the "qaulity" heat sink that comes with boxed cpus and actually spending a couple extra bucks and getting something nice. I swear by the vantec tmd fans for my athlons, sooo much better (i.e. 17 deg C) than those stock POS's. Well worth the $25 each. Yeah, quiet too.
naah, lock the box (yes, 3 fingered salute followed by enter), type in your password and voilla, mouse pointer. Doesn't work 100% of the time, but hey.
Yeah, I know that could happen, but I have warranties on all my boards, so if I lose a ps2 port *sob* I have to *sob* take it back to the store and get a better mobo for free.
I don't have the dvd, but isn't the CD actually part of the movie? (i.e. credits roll?) Should sound a wee bit better than the cd too, given that nifty dolby sound. (Although I suppose they could just run 2 of the 6 channels)/shrug
1. The Average wireless card radiates 200mW, maybe less. 2. There are 1200W microwave ovens that operate in more or less the same frequency. Please don't tell me that the magic sheilding on your $100 microwave oven takes care of 100% of that power. 3. So seriously, shut the fuck up and go away. Thanks.
yes, but for the paranoid, they have already gotten the information with a secret warrant that the media folks can talk about in exchange for a 10 year contempt of court prison term.
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The Israelis take great pains to avoid injuring bystanders. Indeed.
Take for example, shooting unarmed UN workers inside the UN compound.
Or using 1000 pound bombs on a residential buildings in order to get one guy.
Or hellfire missles to take out a car and several other people walking on the street.
Or crushing a peace protestor with a bulldozer.
Or using bulldozers to "widen" a street by plowing through homes on both sides - regardless of whether they are occupied or not.
These might be isolated incidents, but your "free democracy" isn't exactly a shining example of folks who are "taking great pains to avoid injuring bystanders".
I'm not saying that the terrorists aren't trying to kill as many as possible, but it is pretty safe to say that the folks in the IDF and other on that side of the illegal fence aren't making many new friends.
Being in a shitty situation shouldn't make them immune to criticism either.
A 614+ is like $25 AR, the radio and antennas in it sucks but for the money it really can't be beat . . . This is quite cool.
Is this like "embracing and enjoying" the experience of prison rape?
well, if you pick a domain registrar that acts like a whiny bitch . . .
They did have a disconnected phone number, which Joker might of have had some legal crap in their AUP, if so, it does change the situation a bit - but it seems that Joker was kind of a bitch here and the articles don't exactly give shining reviews of their customer service. Seems that the company is living up to their name.
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I wonder how much better a distributed system would work . .
IMHO, the only real change will come after someone hacks the units and Mickey Mouse or OBL wins the presidency or some other position. Until then, Joe Public is going to keep trusting what he is told. Of course, whoever does this will probably be branded a terrorist and given 465 years in prison.
If you've learned anything from history class, it is pretty clear that what the government tells you probably isn't the best for you, but is the best for them. It's sort of like how the guv'mint gave out gas masks for folks in certain cities in Alabama in case of a leak at the local nerve gas disposal facility. It's a nice thought, and will probably make "Bubba" feel safe (and not bug their local elected official, which really is the entire point), but it really isn't worth a damn.
Bubba probably didn't get much of an "educashun" but still trusts the folks who wear suits and has the ability to vote. Bubba could be any one of a several million folks in the US who take everything at face value.
That said, I have no idea how liebold actually got so far and actually deployed these machines.
The emails and just about everything else about the company just scream incompetence followed by lying to cover their asses. It's like middle managers did all the work. Simply amazing.
Please. We "care" every single time a new link gets posted. It takes work to pick out the master link and set opera to refresh every second - especially when the editors post mirrors.
;)
That said, I thought freebsd was dying
well, it would help. I don't mean "completely fucking kill you then wear your torso as a hat" nuts, but really folks who got pushed a bit too far by this situation. ;)
I'm surprised that there wasn't one person who decided to take out the CEO just because his name was -----------> mentioned on TV the most. .
.45 hollowpoints with a mac 10 into his ass on the courthouse steps and fox news is showing him bleed out TV tonight. . ."
I'd put sparkles around that and make it glow if I could. Jack O lanterns would even be seasonal.
Alas. .
I'm afraid that you are viewing this from more of a serious standpoint than mine - which can more or less summarized as "Whoa, fucking cool, some nutcase walked up to Ken Lay and emptied a clip of
Personally, I couldn't care less about Kennny Boy. I didn't lose my retirement nor the savings for my kids to go to college. Hell, I even made money on the market and I'm not even American. But as far as I know, whatever channel broadcasting Ken "picking up some weight" (and one network probably would, over and over and over again) would have quite a ratings jump.
Morbid? Disturbing? Well, of course. But you know there would be folks who would get satisfaction (as short lived as it may be) from watching this on TV - and I'm surprised that one of those folks wasn't disturbed enough (or felt that they had nothing to lose) that they would grab their gun and actually do it.
Morbid mathematics really; x number of employees who lost their life savings, y number of employees with guns, etc. It is halloween after all, what better day to discuss morbid things?
Oh. Yeah. Just because someone is a scapegoat doesn't mean they are without blame.
I don't think that was an advocation, I'm just surprised. Given three groups of people - folks who were really upset, folks who owned guns and folks who might be a wee bit unstable - I'm surprised that there wasn't one person who decided to take out the CEO just because his name was mentioned on TV the most. /shrug.
/\ Appropriate name no doubt
Well, I guess we shouldn't have been surprised. Given the ethics that run through big companies these days, trying to cover their ass after doing something stupid / malicious is a pretty obvious thing to do.
Shit, Ken Lay is still free, and not one of you angry Americans have tried to shoot his ass after he pissed away your retirement and the money for your children's education. Quite frankly, I'm dissapointed, I was kind of hoping for at least one mentally unstable dude with a rifle to go off.
On a side note, I think it is really interesting how quiet this has been. You'd expect the dems to be raising hell in the house and the news media about this, but it just isn't happening. I've seen a bit of news on this, but more on folks proclaiming how bad other countries are in terms of election fraud.
Accident? Malicious intent? Lets just say that Brazil created a better system, and they have death squads roaming the streets.
No, I'm sorry. Congress is too busy passing themselves raises in the face of record unemployment and telling the RIAA to threaten first and then file court papers so they hear less whining from the /. folks who pester them. Oh yeah, scrounging money for a whopping $12,000 to go to the families of each American soldier killed in Iraq. Oh. And I think they matched $100,000 Canadian to help contribute in the moving of a killer whale down from Canadian waters.
/. you either don't vote, or the cost benefit ratio for getting your vote is too low to justify working at it. Am I over-generalizing? Certainly. But politics comes down to numbers and just think how many of your representatives in Washington think the way you do, and also have the guts to turn down money or votes to stand behind their beliefs.
/bitter.
I believe the white house is thinking of new ways to award Haliburton contracts that nobody else happened to bid on because they weren't quite public.
They CAN hear, they just don't WANT to. All they want is is swag and to be re-elected, and quite frankly, if you're on
Give yourself 10 minutes without google and see if you can come up with a list of 20 names.
Oh, yeah, no public defender in civil cases. Basically by the time you step into the courtroom, you've already spent more than you would if you had settled unless you choose to "represent yourself". I somehow doubt pre-paid legal will win your case if they are against lawyers who get paid a lot more.
you're one of those bus people, aren't you?
get a credit card, buy a office all in one printer with a automatic sheet feeder, insert original, hit copy, go for a couple beers, return the printer, get your $ back (and if you get it within a billing cycle, you don't even pay interest). You can even scan it in at the same time and print it double sided with 4 pages on each page. If you're going to be unethical, might as well go all the way. . . .
alt.binaries for yourt ebook needs. A 4mp camera with a good lens also works ;)
I don't think a laptop or a tablet or even a pda would really be all that different for a text book (except for the screen size) with bloat-crobat you can highlight, attonate, etc.
Besides, the last thing that we need to do is give the publishing companies the oppertunity to sell $100 "textbooks" that cost nothing for them to distribute and can't be resold.
One thing I was always wondering is why some state pays 10 million or some other vulgar amount for some kid's textbooks. Wouldn't it be cheaper to write a new one and print your own? Probably the corporate kickbacks prevent any common sense from coming into the decision making process. I'd hate to sound bitter, but it isn't like a math text needs tons of work - there isn't any research to be done (The expectations are already laid out in some document, all that is necessary is to show how to do it and give a couple dozen problems), nor any legal concern about sources, and certainly no shortage of folks who have a masters in math. Of course, I never learned anything from a math book anyways. Granted, history, etc, might be a little more difficult, but it should still be done. If the state invests in a new press, that should cut down the costs of actually printing the book. It is insane to spend upwards of $100 on a single textbook. That's $3,000 for a single class, for one book that will be thrown out in 2 years. It makes more sense to invest the money into better teachers. Of course, that would require common sense.
More valid with younger kids, but hey.
BTW, a 4MP digital camera and books held on reserve at the library work to save you money quite nicely. alt.binaries.textbooks or something similar would also be money saving solution until the TMAA starts serving lawsuits.
how about not using the "qaulity" heat sink that comes with boxed cpus and actually spending a couple extra bucks and getting something nice. I swear by the vantec tmd fans for my athlons, sooo much better (i.e. 17 deg C) than those stock POS's. Well worth the $25 each.
Yeah, quiet too.
naah, lock the box (yes, 3 fingered salute followed by enter), type in your password and
voilla, mouse pointer. Doesn't work 100% of the time, but hey.
Yeah, I know that could happen, but I have warranties on all my boards, so if I lose a ps2 port *sob* I have to *sob* take it back to the store and get a better mobo for free.
you're new here, aren't you?
I don't have the dvd, but isn't the CD actually part of the movie? (i.e. credits roll?) Should sound a wee bit better than the cd too, given that nifty dolby sound. (Although I suppose they could just run 2 of the 6 channels) /shrug
then what would you call taking a picture of every page with a camera?
I don't think you can sue the government because some of its citizens are retards.
I just sent them an email making fun of their stock price and wishing them the maximum pointage on fuckedcompany.com
1. The Average wireless card radiates 200mW, maybe less.
2. There are 1200W microwave ovens that operate in more or less the same frequency. Please don't tell me that the magic sheilding on your $100 microwave oven takes care of 100% of that power.
3. So seriously, shut the fuck up and go away.
Thanks.
yes, but for the paranoid, they have already gotten the information with a secret warrant that the media folks can talk about in exchange for a 10 year contempt of court prison term.