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Slashback tonight brings updates on the recent Google hiccup, LookSmart and the FBI's note-snooping in the Adrian Lamo case, as well as (at long last!) a list of the theaters whose seats will soon be smooshed for far longer than usual under the weight of those dedicated enough to sit through 10 hours of Lord of the Rings. Read on below for the details.

Microsoft thinks LookSmart looks less smart. securitas writes "Internet search company LookSmart was dropped by Microsoft's MSN service today. MSN has decided not to extend its licensing contract with LookSmart beyond January 2004. The news is devastating for LookSmart since, 'Microsoft accounted for approximately 65 percent of listings revenues, and all of LookSmart's licensing revenue in the second quarter of 2003,' according to a company press release not listed on LookSmart's site. The move comes after LookSmart recently launched its own Overture-style pay-per-click service and indicates Microsoft is close to launching its new search engine technology designed to unseat Google for the search crown. All of this is against the backdrop of acquisitions by rival Yahoo. More coverage at SearchEngineWatch and a Reuters mirror at CNN Money."

They could have fixed this if they'd googled for an answer ... powerg3 writes "This follow-up, explains the Google wackiness posted yesterday. Here's the quote from the Google Weblog: '...when a spam result comes up in a search, Google not only blocks the spam, but every result after it. This means that for searches where spam results manage to rise to the top, very few -- sometimes zero -- results will be returned....It's pretty amazing that such a serious bug made it past Google's tests. It will be interesting to see how quickly it's fixed.'"

Pardon me, mum, can I borrow your hard drive? AndreL writes "The Guardian has an update about the BBC's digital archive plans. They're considering using P2P technology to avoid bandwidth bottlenecks. The bad news: because of technical, financial, and legal problems nothing will happen until 2006 at the earliest."

Please arrive in costume if at all. KTecumseh writes "The list of theaters showing the extended editions of LOTR as been revealed. You can check out the list at the official website, and before you look, pray that you live somewhere close by to take advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime experience. For those that can not make the full 10-hour saga, they are also showing the first two extended additions on different dates, but who wants to miss out on an entire theater of sweaty LOTR fans."

Shamus Arrigan asks plaintively "There is no mention of these ticket sales in any other country. Does anyone know when and where these tickets will be sold at? (Canada especially)"

Wait, are you fellas press? Dangnabbit! ccnull writes "Good news from the inquest against hacker Adrian Lamo. According to a paragraph in a Washington Post column (buried about 3/4 of the way down the story), the FBI appears to be backing off from pursuing reporters' notes in the case. Relevant quote: 'A Justice Department official says the FBI agent "acted out of turn" by not seeking approval from the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan and Attorney General John Ashcroft's press office. "The agent did not follow standard procedures," the official says. "We're just not going to pursue it. It is the policy of the Justice Department to exhaust all other means before seeking information from members of the media."'"

Eh, what's a few orders of magnitude? Grant hayes writes: "It seems the decimal point in the Mono story you ran is being a bit ambitious. We should be reading Mono 0.28, not Mono 2.8. Check the link below as well as links there to other Mono resources; I see 0.28 throughout." Here's the Mono site -- guilty as charged. Thanks for the correction.

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  1. Additional article body by macshune · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...a list of the theaters whose seats will soon be smooshed for far longer than usual under the weight of those dedicated enough to sit through 10 hours of Lord of the Rings"


    And also those large folks that will play an inspired game of D&D after the movie.

  2. 10 hours of LOTR? by mikeophile · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm thinking that the title 'Lord of the Inflatable Butt Rings' would be more appropriate for those with more tender hindquarters.

    1. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by l810c · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I don't know how many of theaters have these, but the new theater opened up ~18 months ago near us. It has a VIP room with Fat Leather Recliners, separate sound system and private, close bathrooms. $200 for 16 seats. Definatley might be worth it for something like this.

      We got it for LOTR TTT. Tried to get it 3 weeks before Matrix2 and it had been booked for months. We went ahead an booked LOTR ROTK back in June.

    2. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      12.50 each? Good lord. Tickets are cheap around here, maybe 5.50, 6.50 or so, but I'd pony up 12.50 to get a private room. Pimp-tight seats, good for my lanky frame, and a close bathroom.. omg. I always drink a whole large soda before the previews are over and wind up missing 5 minutes somewhere in the middle of the movie.
      If they let you smoke in there, I'll freakin.. man. o man.

    3. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by compactable · · Score: 1

      Too true - I sat through the two together at my house, and my ass was a big sack of hurt! Maybe they should hire staff to rotate us so that we don't wind up getting bed sores ...

    4. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by FattMattP · · Score: 1
      I don't know how many of theaters have these, but the new theater [megastarcinemas.com] opened up ~18 months ago near us. It has a VIP room with Fat Leather Recliners, separate sound system and private, close bathrooms. $200 for 16 seats. Definatley might be worth it for something like this.
      Are they still going to show you ads before the movie in that room?
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    5. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a lot better than the big sack of Pillsbury dough your ass normally is.

    6. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by secolactico · · Score: 1

      Are they still going to show you ads before the movie in that room?

      Yes, but only those regarding the snack bar. After all, only fat cats who pay $13 por a seat can afford to pay $7 for a Crunch bar and $4 for a medium coke.

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    7. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "We got it for LOTR TTT. Tried to get it 3 weeks before Matrix2 and it had been booked for months. We went ahead an booked LOTR ROTK back in June."

      Gonna pop for another $200 so you can bring a girl along?

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    8. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, a blow job while watching LOTR ... what could be more perfect?

    9. Re:10 hours of LOTR? by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

      "wow, a blow job while watching LOTR ... what could be more perfect? "

      A blow job without sitting through 10 hours of LOTR.

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  3. Toliet breaks by rf0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You have to wonder if with the LOTR there will be breaks or will people just have to step out in the middle of films. Now if they were cut together as one large epic that would be cool.

    Rus

    1. Re:Toliet breaks by wankledot · · Score: 1

      Of course there will be breaks. As far as editing them together, don't forget that the second movie opens with quite a few scenes from the first movie, and it would be quite a lot of work (not so much that it would be impossible, but quite a bit) to re-edit the whole gandolf/ balrog fight and make it seamless with the first one... meaning that it's not going to be re-edited.

      Maybe some day there will be a fan edit of the whole trilogy into one 9 hour tome.

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    2. Re:Toliet breaks by product+byproduct · · Score: 4, Funny

      Toilet breaks? To enjoy the full experience of a non-stop 10-hour immersion, *real* LOTR fans will prefer this solution

    3. Re:Toliet breaks by guacamolefoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or this solution.

      GF.

    4. Re:Toliet breaks by fermion · · Score: 1
      I am thinking how many of the assholes that can't leave their cells phones off for 2 hours are going to make it for 10 hours.

      "Yea dud I am here at the LOTR extended edition"...
      "Oh nothing man, i be out of here in about 9 hours. you wanna hook up"...
      "No, you know i seen this part. I just thought it would be cool to be here"...
      "No, I couldn't get anyone to go with me to the party"...
      "God I know. She is such a slut, and I can't ever get to kiss me"...
      ...
      ...
      ad nauseum

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      "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
    5. Re:Toliet breaks by MuParadigm · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or better yet:

      "The server's down? Look, I'm really sick.... thirty thousand an hour? ... I know we're losing a lot of money, it's just.... At the movies? No that's just my DVD player... Hello? ... Hello? ... I can't hear you... I think we've got a bad connection... (Makes static sounds)... Yeah, this phone has been giving me trouble for a couple weeks now.... Hello?.... (click)"

      Removes phone battery.

      Loses job.

    6. Re:Toliet breaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah - you just get the extra large pop and re-use the container...

      It's dark - who will know?

    7. Re:Toliet breaks by Thing+1 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Wow that brings back bad memories. They're funny though, so I thought I'd share.

      I was in a bad car accident over a decade ago, I was unconscious and they had to put a catheter in for me to pee. I remember waking up on the gurney saying "I'm peeing and I can't stop!" and they said don't worry, there's a catheter.

      When they took it out it was a very unusual (unnatural!) feeling...

      The worst part though, was when I went to the bathroom an hour later. The nice nurse wanted me to use a bedpan, but I wanted to walk to the bathroom which I did. I sat down (broken collarbone and rib weren't conducive to standing), and when I started...

      I FARTED OUT MY DICK!

      This has never happened before, and I imagined that I had some serious internal damage. But when I told the nurse, she said, "Oh that's no problem, it must have just pushed some air in when we inserted the catheter."

      If that's common knowledge they should warn us... Or maybe that's one of the "perks," watching the look on people's faces (i.e. priceless)...

      Sorry I didn't mention LOTR. ;-)

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    8. Re:Toliet breaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I FARTED OUT MY DICK!

      You mean you farted out of your dick. Because first I thought you really farted and your own dick somehow flopped out of your ass.

      Not that English is my first language, but...

    9. Re:Toliet breaks by Wog · · Score: 1

      Gosh...

      My roommate had major jaw surgery over the summer, and supposedly still has nightmares about that thing being pulled out.

      *shudder*

    10. Re:Toliet breaks by bensgroi · · Score: 0

      my brother broke his leg pretty bad a few months ago, and the day they pulled his catheter out, he had a penis fart too! i was in the room and even heard it - it was pretty weird. but what do you call it? a man-queef?

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    11. Re:Toliet breaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      My roommate had major jaw surgery over the summer, and supposedly still has nightmares about that thing being pulled out.
      The worst part is when they put the thing in. Luckily for most people, that happens when they're unconsious. I however, have had it done to me twice while I was awake. Let me tell you, it's no consolation even when it's a pretty girl holding your dick. It's like adding insult to injury when you get stuck with a male nurse doing it.
  4. Only one theater in Silicon Valley? by imcleod · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The list only shows one theater in Silicon Valley that's doing the screenings, and two others in the SF Bay Area (Dublin, San Francisco). Get your tickets early, folks...

  5. Cushions? Weight? by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 4, Funny

    a list of the theaters whose seats will soon be smooshed for far longer than usual under the weight of those dedicated enough to sit through

    A, the deadly combination of 10 hours of sitting plus the 400 lb weight of your average LOTR nerd ... has been known to reduce the natural life of cushions by 95%.

  6. 10 hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if there will be an intermission (and if they'll let you sneak in some food--who wants to have to eat nothing but popcorn for 2/3rds of a day?)

    1. Re:10 hours? by Oloryn · · Score: 1
      and if they'll let you sneak in some food--who wants to have to eat nothing but popcorn for 2/3rds of a day?

      Are you kidding? They're probably expecting to make a mint off of sales of expensive theatre food

    2. Re:10 hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't even like their food. Usually when I go watch a movie (which isn't very often) I end up bringing cereals bars or whatnot. I'll buy their drinks, but I ain't paying for overpriced crap food.

  7. Testing by rf0 · · Score: 1

    It depends how much testing is done

    R.

  8. All Soviet Russia jokes... by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 1, Troll

    ...must now be done in Aaahnold's voice.

    In Soviet Rassha, tha moovee watches ten aoahs of yoo!

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  9. Not just with Lamo by phorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good news from the inquest against hacker Adrian Lamo

    For those that don't really like Lamo, consider this in the large scope that it is, overall, a victory for everbody's rights against rampant abuse-of-power.

    1. Re:Not just with Lamo by Hard_Code · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pretend I'm naive here and explain to me how it's an abuse of power. Is this just public info, or are they invading some sorts of "press" protection of sources rights? Does this apply in all cases?

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      It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
    2. Re:Not just with Lamo by dpoppink · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's certainly not public info. The FBI was asking for the reporters' private notes, recordings, and other source material. This included material which was taken "off the record" during interviews. In general, reporters are required by law and ethics to protect the confidentiality of their sources (if their sources desire confidentiality). What bugged me most about this situation is that the FBI would go after reporters who reported on Lamo but no one was going after Robert Novak's notes, despite the fact that his source blew the cover of a CIA agent (a treasonous offense). This update helps clarify the sitation: go after all other sources of information first.

    3. Re:Not just with Lamo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Of course it's only because The White House wants to protect Robert Novak, so it's not that big a victory. Without the leak story, they'd still be trying to get the notes.

      Call me paranoid if you want, but the connection looks to obvious to me.

    4. Re:Not just with Lamo by loraksus · · Score: 1

      yes, but for the paranoid, they have already gotten the information with a secret warrant that the media folks can talk about in exchange for a 10 year contempt of court prison term.

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  10. Re:beat it, beat it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ah. so that's wtf he was singing.

    BTW, he was at K-mart the other day. Apparently he showed up because he heard little boys' pants were half off there. go figure.

  11. that's a hell of a deal by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 3, Informative

    $12.50 per person? In Orange County, CA many theaters are up to $9.50 for standard seating, so I wouldn't think twice about spending another $3 for a little luxury. I hope we start seeing this sort of thing around here.

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    1. Re:that's a hell of a deal by l810c · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I should have been more clear. That was additional, so + $7.50 ticket it was $20/person. Not something I would do all of the time, but definately worth it a couple of times a year for special/long movies.

    2. Re:that's a hell of a deal by pbox · · Score: 1

      Well here at Hughes Center in LA county we have the $20 movie tickets for similarly appointed theater. It seems everything is 50-60% premium in SoCal...

      BTW, I don't partonize the place, it is festered with teenagers on dates...

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    3. Re:that's a hell of a deal by Syberghost · · Score: 1

      In Orange County, CA many theaters are up to $9.50 for standard seating,

      In Soviet Russia, theatre seats you.

  12. Denver, Co by lostindenver · · Score: 1

    Only one listing in denver BUT it is on an IMAX screen. Did they reshoot in IMAX? Or will this just be a bigass screen?

    1. Re:Denver, Co by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Did they reshoot in IMAX? Or will this just be a bigass screen?

      At my theatre they use the IMAX screen to display normal films. But now they are very large and loud.

      Still, that didn't help Planet of the Apes.

    2. Re:Denver, Co by Tin+Foil+Hat · · Score: 1

      Who cares? It's a big-ass screen.

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  13. The Great White LOTR by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny
    "There is no mention of these ticket sales in any other country. Does anyone know when and where these tickets will be sold at? (Canada especially)"

    Glad to be of assistance to all out Canadian (or is it Canadien?) friends!

    Lord of the Rings will be playing at the following theaters (or is it theatres?) for our northern neighbors:
    • Cineplex Odeon, Detroit, Michigan
    • Fenian Moviehouse, Niagara Falls, New York
    • Bill's Movie Place, Seattle, Washington
    • Avalon Theater, Bismark, North Dakota (please note, American coins only!)
    • Ultimax Theater, Montpelier, Vermont

    We hope you enjoy our movies and our hemispheric hegemony! :)
    1. Re:The Great White LOTR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no Bill's Movie Place in Seattle Washington.

      Not that I know of anyway.

    2. Re:The Great White LOTR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he's trying to be funny... Obviously none of those are even in Canada...

    3. Re:The Great White LOTR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      anyone have any idea about australian showings. I deliveratly didnt see the second one so I can see the trilogy in one go for maximum effect
      Phill_wall@hotmail.com

    4. Re:The Great White LOTR by Ydna · · Score: 1

      Well, technically it's not really in Seattle. He's referring to Bill Gates' private movie theater at his home.

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    5. Re:The Great White LOTR by fiftyfly · · Score: 1
      Glad to be of assistance to all out Canadian (or is it Canadien?) friends!
      Actually it's 'our'
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    6. Re:The Great White LOTR by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

      I think he's trying to be funny... Obviously none of those are even in Canada...

      I think he was trying to be both funny and informative at the same time. (Do we need a composite moderation system?)

      Obviously all of those locations are close to the border. Given that a large percentage of Canada's population lives within 100 miles of the border, I'd say that it is, in fact, informative.

      Hell, I'd have to drive more than 100 miles to go to the nearest location to me. And then I'd have to deal with the 8th worst traffic in the nation, etc.

      The way it was presented, though. That was funny. (Someone suggested TrollBait, but I think that the composite of Troll and Flamebait isn't an accurate description, though the difference between "funny" and "flamebait" or "troll" is rather subjective.)

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    7. Re:The Great White LOTR by JediTrainer · · Score: 1

      Obviously all of those locations are close to the border. Given that a large percentage of Canada's population lives within 100 miles of the border, I'd say that it is, in fact, informative.

      Agreed. I live near Toronto, and though I'm not enough of a fan to drive that distance, I know a few people that wouldn't mind driving ~1.5 hours to Niagara Falls (assuming short stop at customs). It's not that bad, especially if you want to take the 407ETR all the way there. As long as the border doesn't hold you up, it's a pretty decent drive. Of course, our side of the falls kicks ass!

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    8. Re:The Great White LOTR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's 'out'. It's a similar use to 'out' of the closet. 'In' Canadians doesn't admit to living in Canada.

      Yes, it's sad that being Canadian or gay is such a social stigma.

    9. Re:The Great White LOTR by n8_f · · Score: 1

      No, he just screwed up the name. It is Paul's Movie Place. The Cinerama was bought and restored to glory by Paul Allen, not Bill Gates, and it is the one location in western Washington playing the trilogy.

  14. No mention on price... by tprox · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know how much the marathon ticket prices are going for? The Loews Theater nearest me mentions the show, but gives no indication of price (http://www.loewscineplex.com/promotions/trilogytu esday/index.cfm)

    1. Re:No mention on price... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ONE Seattle theatre listed has tickets posted at $30 each, not too bad. I'm sure it is left up to each venue how much they charge.

      Sigh, of course, 12 hours of subsisting on theatre food is gonna either be painful, or cost a pretty penny, or both.

    2. Re:No mention on price... by guacamolefoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      The ballpark seems to be $35.00 USD.

      GF.

    3. Re:No mention on price... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sheeeit! For that price you can buy a D&D Player's Handbook and make your own damn LOTR!
      Or a DVD or sumthin.
      Damn, think I'll just catch the RoTK matinee instead (like I did the last two times) and that way I only gotta buy one of their overpriced medium drinks.

    4. Re:No mention on price... by fenix+down · · Score: 3, Funny

      5 words: Fat suit stuffed with ham.

  15. 35.00: 12:30 pm :Denver, Co by lostindenver · · Score: 1

    I hate replying to Myself but in Denver.. Tic's go on sale @ 12:30 PM for 35 Dollars a seat.

  16. Re:Toilet breaks by kaan · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard that there will be no toilet breaks, because it's all part of a contest. See, without toilet breaks, that will make it easier to distinguish who is really a hardcore LOTR fan and who is a poser. There will be judges monitoring the audience via hidden camera, and whoever earns the most points as a hardcore LOTR fan (dressing up in costume helps your score) will be awarded a full-size cardboard cutout of, umm, Gandalf. I am completely serious. Really.

  17. 10 hrs of LOTR? Better get potty-breaks. by thirty2bit · · Score: 1

    ...that or pick up one of those strap-on urinals. They can't be seen under your clothes. I find they work really well for long car rides or trips to the DMV.

    1. Re:10 hrs of LOTR? Better get potty-breaks. by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      ...or trips to the DMV.

      Stop it! I'm laughing too hard. I'll pee my pants!

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  19. Never understood why the "extra" footage... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    wasn't added to the movie to begin with.

    If you're in for a penny you're in for pound, as the saying goes. What difference is 20-30 minutes going to make on a 3 hour movie? Are people simply going to walk out at exactly 3 hours?

    The extra footage added to Fellowship really fleshed out the story and brought it closer to the book.

    Just my 2 cents.

    1. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by Texas+Rose+on+Lava+L · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The shorter the movie is, the more times the theater can show it. The more times the theater shows the movie, the more tickets they can sell. The more tickets they sell, the more money the studio makes. Movie studios tend to do things that they think will make them money.

    2. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by jcdick1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because Newline dictated to Peter Jackson that none of the movies could be longer than three hours in their original release. So he cut them to 2h57m, with the understanding that prior to the release of each of the films, the "Extended Special Edition" DVDs could be released in time for people to buy or rent before seeing the next installment.

      All that is explained in the stuff on the DVDs.

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    3. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by c4seyj0nes · · Score: 1

      I don't think that its that people will walk out, but that a lot of theatres list the runtimes of their movies. There is probably some magic number that increases attendance for a move.

      Of course, with LotR fans, this is probably irrevelavant.

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    4. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by marko123 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You are right on the money. That's why they will be releasing a 90 minute combination of the highlights of the three movies in all the other cinemas, repackaged as LOTR:FTRD - Lord of the Rings: For The Ritalin Deficient.

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    5. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy explantion, they do it because they know how easy it is to exploit fanboys. I know some of them who have bought all the diffrent editons of LoTR just because the movie makers included extras not featured on the other editions.

      Pretty good setup, release regular editon, then a few months or the same release a special edition. I don't follow this stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if yet another special edition of the first movie and second show up when the third one hits the screen. Wouldn't be surprised if at the end of this there will even be two to three diffrent versions of a box set when all three are bundled together.

    6. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by Galvatron · · Score: 1
      Are people simply going to walk out at exactly 3 hours?

      No, but they might start getting bored or uncomfortable. Moreover, they might not see it in the first place if they know ahead of time that it's going to be 3 and a half hours, with no intermissions. A decent movie, I think, can sustain the viewer's interest for 2.5 hours. At that point, people start needing to go to the bathroom, or get sleepy from having been in a dark theatre for so long, or are uncomfortable from sitting in one place for the entire time, or are about ready to kill those damn kids two rows up who keep talking.

      If the movie is particularly well made, I think you can get most people to ignore these issues for another half hour or so, pushing you out to 3 hours. At 3.5 hours though, you're asking people to ignore their discomfort for a full hour, which is going to decrease their level of enjoyment. Instead of saying "wow, that was a great movie," they'll say "it was good, but a bit long. I also missed a bit because I finally couldn't hold out any longer and had to run out to the bathroom." The movie wouldn't have bombed or anything, but the word of mouth simply would not have been as positive.

      This equation changes when you're advertising something as a "special edition." People have already seen the movie, so they are in a position to more easily judge if they are going to have the patience for an extended version. Even more importantly, people watch DVDs at home, where they can pause it for bathroom or snack breaks. For me, personally, I don't intend to see these extended versions in the theatre because I know I'm not going to enjoy it. I've got the DVDs, I'll watch those, but I think that the original versions are a more appropriate length for a theatre.

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    7. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      FOTR just should have been two movies, one for Book I and one for
      Book II. Likewise, TTT should have been two movies, one for Book III
      and one for Book IV.

      ROTK could probably get by with one movie, because everything
      starting with chapter 6 of Book VI is sufficiently anticlimactic
      to be greatly shortened for the movie series without loss of much
      action, and Books V and VI are shorter than the others anyway (to
      make room for the monster appendix at the end of the third volume,
      probably).

      This approach would have allowed for saner movie lengths, _plus_
      the inclusion of more plot elements (and more action scenes, such
      as Old Man Willow, the Barrow Wight, et cetera), _and_ a relaxing
      of the pace. (The first movie felt like a _race_ more than a quest.)

      Plus, of course, five movies means more tickets than three movies
      and more videotapes and more DVDs and more money. But do they
      listen to me? No.

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    8. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by Zillatron · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The shorter the movie is, the more times the theater can show it. The more times the theater shows the movie, the more tickets they can sell. The more tickets they sell, the more money the studio makes. Movie studios tend to do things that they think will make them money.
      Too true. This is why Quentin Tarantino's new movie Kill Bill got chopped in half.

    9. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by spurious+cowherd · · Score: 1
      You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the film is what makes money for the theatre.
      it ain't so.

      It's all about the popcorn & soda
      Yes. The longer the movie runs in the multiplex, the better chance they have of getting a bigger taste of the gate
      but with a movie that has the pent-up demand of this one I would not be supprised if the contracts were modified to tilt even more in favor of the MPAA

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    10. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by Uhlek · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reason for this is pretty simple. 3 hours is the maximum cut-off time that studios will accept movies in most circumstances -- especially movies that will appeal to more popular people. The reason? Well...at 3 hours runtime, plus trailers, load-in, and clean-up time, you have about 3:30 at a breakneck pace. That leaves the following times available for post-matinee showings

      4:00
      7:30
      11:00

      Three showings a night, per screen. A mere additional 30 minutes of footage would push any third showing to midnight, getting out at 3:30 This would ridiculiously decrease ticket sales -- especially during the week.

      More ticket sales = more money.

      Quintin Tarrintino recently ran into this problem with Kill Bill, his 5-6 hour opus that he was trying to push to the studios to show as a single film. Yeah, right!

    11. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by ruprechtjones · · Score: 1

      But a movie shorter than two hours is good for both sides (the movie studio and the theatre chain).

      That means they can run 8 to 10, sometimes more showings per day, meaning that much more turnaround for popcorn with extra butter-flavered toppings (one of the theatre's top revenue sources, seriously). And the studios can build larger opening-weekend totals with the more showings.

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    12. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't theaters just charge more for longer movies? I mean, you are "renting" there equipment for a longer period of time, right?

    13. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by evilviper · · Score: 1

      If they gave you the extra footage right off, you wouldn't go back and buy the DVD a second time now would you?

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    14. Re:Never understood why the "extra" footage... by DCheesi · · Score: 1
      Too true. This is why Quentin Tarantino's new movie Kill Bill got chopped in half.

      Is that it? I thought they were trying to be cool like the Matrix sequels! M47r1X r00lz! ;)

      ObOnTopic: Although I like the long version of Fellowship better, I think it would have been too long to run in a theater without an intermission. Hopefuly these marathons will have appropriate intermissions, or else some of the real fanatics will be hurting... Anyway, I'm SOL here in Nowheresville, USA, so if I want a marathon I'll be flipping discs at home (assuming the TT special edition DVD comes out in time?)

  20. DVT - not just on airplanes anymore! by CustomDesigned · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many incidents of Deep Vein Thrombosis there will be among those sitting through the 10 hour epic?

  21. Definition of insanity by bstadil · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The old story about insanity defined as "doing the same thing over and over expecting different results", pretty much sums up anyone entering into a close relations with Microsoft.

    The list of companies being f****d is legio,can anyone come up with a company that did well?

    Not being bought by MS but working as a close partner with MS, and lived to tell the tale.

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    1. Re:Definition of insanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The old story about insanity defined as "doing the same thing over and over expecting different results", pretty much sums up anyone entering into a close relations with Microsoft

      What about when I expect the same results, but get different ones? I've had this happen with MS Word several times.

    2. Re:Definition of insanity by plambert · · Score: 1

      That'd be Symantec.

      HTH.

      --plambert

  22. LOTR screening in Baltimore by guacamolefoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just called the Senator theater (in Towson). Here's the deal:

    Tickets for the trilogy are $35. They go on sale Saturday the 11th at noon. No more than 10 tickets may be purchased at once. The trilogy will be shown back-to-back-to-back on December 16th (Tuesday) starting at noon. The Senator theater is at www.senator.com or 410-435-8338.

    GF.

    1. Re:LOTR screening in Baltimore by guacamolefoo · · Score: 1

      sale date is October 11, btw.

    2. Re:LOTR screening in Baltimore by sailracer6 · · Score: 1

      Incidentally related... has anyone been having trouble reaching http://www.senator.com? I haven't been able to get there in weeks. Mozilla says that the site can't be found (DNS error), but every other site these days that does that goes to SiteFinder. This one doesn't.

      Can someone post the IP address if they can get there?

      Thanks.

    3. Re:LOTR screening in Baltimore by Bloomy · · Score: 1

      The phone message for the Senator also said that they take cash only. So hit an ATM before going.

      To reply to another post, the Senator's web site has been down most of the day.

      Tickets go on sale at the Cineplex Odeon Uptown in DC tomorrow at 1, though the Washington Post web site says 12. Limit of 4 per person, but the price is only $26 and change, at least that's what I was told over the phone. About 4 people were in line about 45 minutes ago.

      The Senator is my backup plan.

    4. Re:LOTR screening in Baltimore by sllim · · Score: 1

      There is a God.
      I don't think there is any theatre quite like the Senator.

      I wonder if they will play a cartoon before the movies???

    5. Re:LOTR screening in Baltimore by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1

      "I wonder if they will play a cartoon before the movies???"

      Yeah, I hear it will be something called "The Hobbit"

  23. To Paraphrase Tom Waits by Greyfox · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Now a man figures it's his relationship with Microsoft, so he'll take what he wants from it. Yeah... well it don't always work out that way...

    You'd think that before a company entered into a relationship with a company like Microsoft (Or SCO... whoever...) the aforementioned company might... you know... look at Microsoft's past history or something? It's like marrying a woman with 7 divorces. She might not divorce you, but that's not where I'd put my money. What are these people thinking "Oh, the past is littered with the corpses of companies they partnered with and then sucked dry and then abandoned as dry husks of their former selves... but I'm sure they've turned over a new leaf and won't do that to us! They've said they like us!"

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  24. 10 hours! by CdnShaggy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I will be the guy in the front, with the box around my neck, selling the depends for 8$ a pop!

    1. Re:10 hours! by c4seyj0nes · · Score: 1

      "Just go man, just go...awww...its warm."

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    2. Re:10 hours! by slagish666 · · Score: 1
      I will be the guy in the front, with the box around my neck, selling the depends for 8$ a pop!


      Take a bathroom break during the scenes with Arwen and Aragorn and you won't miss a thing

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    3. Re:10 hours! by markcic · · Score: 1

      What you really mean is that you will be the guy selling depends for $8 a poop.

  25. Wow!? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    People want to sit in a cinema and watch LOTR for 10 hours? seriously? sometimes i am either ashamed to be a geek or wonder if i really am one.

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    1. Re:Wow!? by crucini · · Score: 1

      I agree. I get restless watching a movie as it is, which is one reason I hardly ever watch them. I don't have a short attention span - I can spend all day coding or reading a book. But movies are inherently boring - nothing to do but sit in the dark and watch. Who wants to eat three delicious dinners in a row?

    2. Re:Wow!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you just take yourself too seriously... Cause nobody really cares whether or not you're into LOTR or D&D or Playstation or whatever. Cause the truth is, unless you're a household name, nobody even notices you. So chill, dude.

    3. Re:Wow!? by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      I'm definitely a geek, but I'm not going. I might see the individual showing of the extended editions earlier, but the ten hour marathon? No way!

      After seven hours I'll doze off and completely miss the ROTK. No way am I going to miss the first day of ROTK. I would have to turn in my geek card.

      Next year though when ROTK:Extended comes out on DVD, we are planning a big-screen TV and comfortable-sofa party. Plenty of time for bathroom breaks, stretching your legs, calling out for pizza, etc.

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    4. Re:Wow!? by uvsc_wolverine · · Score: 1

      I think that by the time ROTK starts I wouldn't be able to see clearly, think straight, or understand English (and that's the only language I know!)

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  26. What's happened to the concept of Intermissions? by TPFH · · Score: 4, Interesting

    400 lb weight of your average LOTR nerd
    Avarage?
    Average meaning mean I'm guessing.....
    If 400lb is the mean, what does a relatively heavy LOTR Nerd weigh? (Especially considering that some are quite skinny.)

    And 10 hours.... (and this is not a comment on the weight joke.) it's not just bathroom breaks but meal breaks that will come into play there. And no, eating junk food while watching the movie isn't a meal. Need good protein.

    In the past when a movie was 3 hours long you had an intermission in the middle. It is nice to get up and walk around every hour or so. I remember being suprised when Malcolm X didn't have an intermission. When they re-released Laurance of Arabia there was an intermission. I have not seen it yet but I heard that Shoah had more than one intermission.

    So what happened?
    Did we go through the 80s without any (mainstream) 3 hour movies and after so long a time movie studios forgot the concept?

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  27. w00t, one of the theatres is local! by rossz · · Score: 1

    The Regal Cinemas Hacienda Crossings in Dublin is just down the street. I asked my wife if she was interested. She looked at me like I was insane. My daughter, on the other hand, is all for it.

    I tried to convince my daughter to make herself up like an elf. She has an elfish quality about her, so it seemed natural, but she rejected the idea. Well, she's more Drow than Elf since I'm convinced that she is evil (she's a teenager).

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  28. I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DM: Fine. Your launch one purple missle at your enemy. Roll 1d4-3 for damage.

    1. Re:I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But why do you want to cast Magic Missile? There's nothing to attack here!

    2. Re:I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about? Don't you see that gazebo?

    3. Re:I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh. What color is it? And does it look dangerous?

    4. Re:I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm attacking the darkness!

    5. Re:I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by j-pimp · · Score: 1

      Then I cast it at the darkness!

      Can I get a mountain dew?

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    6. Re:I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are there any girls in there? I wanna do them!

    7. Re:I CAST MAGIC FUCKING MISSLE by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      I curse the darkness!

      Fuck candles!

  29. Re:Toilet breaks by jonadab · · Score: 1

    > no toilet breaks, because it's all part of a contest ...
    > to distinguish who is really a hardcore LOTR fan

    So, you're saying I should sneak in a gallon or so of lemon iced
    tea, just to impress a bunch of lamers with how much I can retain?
    About four hours in, I'd run low on tea to drink, and be able to
    torment people by swishing the ice around in the bottom of the jug ;-)

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  30. what about the ROTK Extended Edition? by r5t8i6y3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    sounds a bit annoying to me. sitting through the FOTR Extended Edition then the TTT Extended Edition and then the finale - the ROTK squeeze me into a tolerable amount of time for most people Edition. talk about a let down. after i see the ROTK the first thing i'll be speculating about will be what scenes were missing that will be on the ROTK Extended Edition DVD.

    1. Re:what about the ROTK Extended Edition? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      after i see the ROTK the first thing i'll be speculating about will be what scenes were missing that will be on the ROTK Extended Edition DVD.

      Call me a cynic but that sounds like a great way to boost DVD sales...

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    2. Re:what about the ROTK Extended Edition? by hanssprudel · · Score: 1


      From what I have read, ROTK will go the theatres as a three and a half hour film, so the normal edition will be comparable to the earlier extendeds.

  31. Video format for BBC archive by D.+Book · · Score: 1

    The Guardian has an update about the BBC's digital archive plans. [snip] The bad news: because of technical, financial, and legal problems nothing will happen until 2006 at the earliest.

    The good news: a delay could allow time for Ogg Theora to mature, so that a patent and royalty-free video format will be available as an option.

  32. Lucky bastard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Charlotte is the biggest city in NC and doesn't have one. They've got Raleigh, Winston-Salem, and freakin Concord, which I guess they figured is close enough to Charlotte, but why not do Charlotte? Concord's like an hour drive from where I live. I hate those bloody New Line bastards.

    And everybody in Dublin, too!

    1. Re:Lucky bastard by rossz · · Score: 1

      That's ok, we hate you, too. :)

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  33. D&D after? by Chayce · · Score: 1

    Real role players can play anywhere and everywhere. Sure dice dont work so well in theater seats, but a pda with a random number generator works well. Also theres the problem of seeing, but there is a simple solution glowsticks. And yes, some of the other people might complain but just answer them in character, they will soon leave you alone. In fact others might join. Ok so the ushers might get upset... haven't figured that out yet, but soon.

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    1. Re:D&D after? by orthogonal · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Real role players can play anywhere and everywhere. Sure dice dont work so well in theater seats, but a pda with a random number generator works well. Also theres the problem of seeing, but there is a simple solution glowsticks. And yes, some of the other people might complain but just answer them in character....

      So resourceful they are when it comes to play-acting being an arch-mage.

      And yet these same heroes are tongue-tied and shame-faced and able to talk only to their shoes as soon as they walk into a singles' bar.

      Ah, the marvelous versatility of the human race (including those who prefer to think of themselves as hobbits)!

    2. Re:D&D after? by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      Ok so the ushers might get upset... haven't figured that out yet, but soon

      You could always run them through with your sword.

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    3. Re:D&D after? by daeley · · Score: 1

      You could always run them through with your sword.

      I was thinking this very thing would be appropriate for any one lame enough to RPG in the middle of a freakin' movie! ;D

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  34. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The following day may bring newspaper headlines about the large number of blood-clot related deaths at the event.

  35. Alas! by HoldmyCauls · · Score: 1

    First the cute girl I worked with and got to know (not the kind to typically date a slashdotter) and now the trilogy!

    Why, oh WHY did I plan to leave the country for the semester?!?

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  36. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by M.+Silver · · Score: 1

    Here, it's playing in a theater that serves burgers and beer. At tables. (In the balcony; there's standard seating below.)

    Not that I like beer, or am likely to go to this showing.

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  37. Good thing I moved by dq5+studios · · Score: 1

    Regal Cinemas Fiesta 16 here I come baby.

    1. Re:Good thing I moved by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 1

      Schweet!! A fellow San Antonian.. Cya there d00d.

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  38. How is this informative?!? by Madhackr · · Score: 1

    ummm, yea

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  39. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by Zillatron · · Score: 1
    Did we go through the 80s without any (mainstream) 3 hour movies and after so long a time movie studios forgot the concept?
    I know I saw two movies in the Eighties with intermissions. I can't remember the second but Gandhi was absolutely wonderful and had a full intermission.

    I do agree that there should be more of those. When I saw Goodfellas" in 1990 it was so riviting I never left my seat. I'll admit that it was only two hours, twenty-five minutes, but that was the longest stretch I've ever endured that didn't involve the legal system. My urinary tract took years to recover: they intro the movie in 1971, then go back in time. The whole time I'm watching the calander to see when they get back to 1971. Little did I know the movie tracks the characters on into the Eighties...

  40. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 1

    Oh the memories.

    In 199* (I honestly do forget what the year was, I wasn't sleeping much back then do to a screw up in my AD/HD medication, and my memory is a little foggy) I went to a 24 hour sci fi show at a local theater here in Cincinnati. They used to call it the repatory back then, its gone now.

    I'm fairly certain they broke more than a few laws showing things as they did, or they were bootleg copies, but they ran 24 hours of sci fi, no breaks.

    Star Wars, Empire, ROTJ, ST 1-4, a few choice trek episodes, Akira (that was the reason I really went, and I think was the reason MOST people were there) Terminator, Aliens, and Outland.

    It was actually quite enjoyable.

    I know there are a lot of people who think sitting in one place for 24 hours would be torture, but its not once you get past hour 4 or so. I mean, how many of you have blown a day sitting in your chair in front of your monitor playing your favorite mmorp, or ut2k3 or half life?

    Hell, after reading about Postal2 on /. yesterday, I remembered that I had it and had not played it yet. Spent about 13 hours last night playing it. I'm not terribly out of shape either, I do get up and away from my computer on a regular basis. But 24 hours of total immersion does not seem extreme at all to me.

    Gimme a bathroom break every 3-4 hours. (I suppose it would be a little harder than it was in the 90's, because I was stupid and took up smoking, so I would be jonesing for a cig pretty bad after about 4 or 5 hours)

    I would drop $50 in a heartbeat to watch the entire LOTR trilogy, if they threw in a snack cart or something in the middle.

    In short, intermissions would be cool, but I really don't think they are needed, especially when it is material you have probably seen before.

    (Wasn't there an intermission in The English Patient a few years back?)

    My GF dragged me to that one ... glad she did.

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  41. I did this for Star Wars by rczyzewski · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine won a party for 200 friends & family to a screening of the original Star Wars Trilogy when it was re-released. Everyone even got $15 of giftcertificates for food. So I got to drink a small soda and 1/2 a pack of Milk Duds while we had a great time.
    I sure as shit better be able to get tickets tomorrow!

    1. Re:I did this for Star Wars by rczyzewski · · Score: 1

      And now that I got my tickets, I get to do it again!!!

  42. google is fixed by e40 · · Score: 1

    this search is fixed (displays more than 1 result).

  43. NO, it's not fixed by e40 · · Score: 1

    there are just more non-spam hits that got moved up... D'oh!

  44. Dave Barry's Simplified Screenplay for LOTR II by bettiwettiwoo · · Score: 1

    Miami Herald's Dave Barry (now of 'don't-call-us-we're-telemarketers' fame) has written a column on Lord of the Rings II ... which he thought was slightly too long and complicated and therefore wrote a simplified screenplay for (cached here).

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  45. no theaters near me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess I'll have to look for it on Kazza... ;)

    1. Re:no theaters near me... by GrassMunk · · Score: 1

      or BitTorrents

  46. Me by sharkey · · Score: 1

    but who wants to miss out on an entire theater of sweaty LOTR fans

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    1. Re:Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I usually wait until the very last week to see it. That's what I did last two times (it was still showing in February or March!) and I basically got the entire theatre to myself. Well there were only like 4 or 5 other people in there. Nice and quiet, no kids crying (cause I go in the middle of the day, and it's cheaper too), no crazed fans whooping, and I can relax and enjoy the movie.

  47. Google attack! by protogoogoo69 · · Score: 1

    Google not only blocks the spam, but every result after it.

    Sounds like an attack waiting to happen. Lets see, I really hate that blasted www.example.com site, ever since they totally ripped off my page! First, I'm going to mirror it here! Then I'm going to take that collection of spam I've been saving up all these years and attach it to my mirrored site. Then, if I can somehow push my site above in google page rank, they should not show up in any search and I have thwarted my opponent! YES!

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  48. Silly moderators by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
    (Score:3, Informative)

    Funny? sure
    TrollBait? Perhaps but Informative???????!

    Sheeesh.

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    1. Re:Silly moderators by orthogonal · · Score: 1

      (Score:3, Informative)

      Funny? sure
      TrollBait? Perhaps but Informative???????!


      Those are Canadian "Informatives".

      The exchange rate is 5/4 of a Canadian "Informative" is equivalent to one American "Funny".

      Were you set up to show my +1 Karma bonus modifier (as you should have been, I've had to whore for a year to keep that bonus!), it would be +4 "Informative" (Canadian), that is, +5 Funny (American).

      Simple, once you know the exchange rate.

      (Yeah, I was amazed to see it get modded "Informative" too. I thought for sure "Fenian Moviehouse" would have been a tip off. And yes, I was going for "Funny"; I wasn't attempting to troll.)

    2. Re:Silly moderators by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
      And yes, I was going for "Funny"; I wasn't attempting to troll.)

      I realize that, but some moderators lack the funnybone necessary to recognize humor and tend to identify posts such as yours as 'troll'. It's just commen enough for me to have given up and started accepting it as 'normal'. The 'informative' thing, though, is just beyond my tolerance.

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  49. The Bridge at Howard Hughes Center by Anm · · Score: 1

    I wish it was true, but the "Director's Seating" is still a 100+ seat theater. Certainly comfy (reclining leather seats), and a way to avoid the teenagers, yet not even close to worth the price. However, if you happen to get a free admission ticket (I did for a movie delayed by technical difficulties), there is no surcharge to the Director's seating.

    More info: The Bridge

    (Obviously I do patronize this place, as one of the best theaters in LA. Quite an honor for a movie town. Besides, it only a few miles from work)

  50. It was MSN - easy money by K-Man · · Score: 1

    The MSN deal paid something like $14 million up front, and they got MSN to look the other way while LS sold slots in their directory feed. It was slimy, but profitable, and for LS, this was all they needed. No other search engine made a similar deal with LS - even those that used the LS directory got it for almost nothing up-front, and only a share of the clickthrough revenue.

    Unfortunately even a monopoly like MS had to wake up someday, and realize that the revenue can be theirs alone, for the cost of a few developers and a billing system, and the directory wasn't much value anyway, so the whole deal went in the dumper.

    For LS, there wasn't much alternative, as their management never had much technical leadership ability, and they mainly focused on what they were good at, which was talking companies into having unprofitable joint ventures with them (eg British Telecom).

    LS tried to get some technical acumen by laying off their developers and buying other companies, but this strategy never lead to any good technology, to put it mildly.

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  51. please by dhananjay · · Score: 1
    ooooh! pick on the kids who play d&d. they tend to also write exceptional code. btw, they aren't all scared of singles bars, not to say that there's any virtue in going to them.

    as for actually playing d&d while watching 10 hours of LOTR .... it reminds me of that seinfeld with george trying to eat a pastrami sandwhich while watching tv and having sex at the same time. focus people.

    also, get out and exercise once in a while, you'll live longer.

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    1. Re:please by orthogonal · · Score: 1

      ooooh! pick on the kids who play d&d.

      As Triumph the Insult Comic Dog said to the Star Wars nerds, "I kid, I keeed!"

      I had dice in various polyhedral shapes. Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

  52. Can't stare at a screen for ten hours straight... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    while sitting in the same seat?

    I'd tear that geek cad up right now if I were you. I don't even blink at the thought of spending ten hours in a theater. Not even just for LOTR, I could handle even a Care Bare's Movie trilogy if I were in the right mood.

    The key is to offset the ridiculous periods of sitting and staring with equal amounts of walking or hiking. So a ten hour movie binge means a nice ten hour hike the next day (or the day before, probably better to give you a reason to sit).

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  53. Woohoo! LOTR at the ArcLight! by sideshow · · Score: 1

    The ArcLight is a uber-theatre in Hollywood that is part of the Cinerama Dome. This theatre has assigned seating, a resturant, and.... A FULL BAR!. I predict drunked fanboy brawls about 20 minutes into the second movie.

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  54. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by BluRBD!E · · Score: 1

    Personally I would be more worried about the possibility of deep vein thrombosis. It occured how many times in the past few hours on roughly 10 hour flights? If I owned a participating cinema, I'd be showing warnings before the movie recommending you stand up every few hours and stretch.

  55. The idea behind PageRank by Xeger · · Score: 1

    is that it's hard to spoof. Getting your example.org to become #1 in the search results would require a whole lotta linking! And it'd have to be other people linking to you, not vice-versa.

  56. Foreign Theaters by MudDude · · Score: 1

    Oh, great, just great. And where do all us Dutch guys gotta go to do the same?

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  57. LOTR Marathon in other countries by spieters · · Score: 1

    Shamus Arrigan asks plaintively "There is no mention of these ticket sales in any other country. Does anyone know when and where these tickets will be sold at? (Canada especially)"

    In holland Pathe theaters is carrying the marathon. Seats are still available in Amsterdam, already sold out in The Hague though...

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  58. to bad... by tommten · · Score: 1

    to bad the extended versions aren't released earlier..
    I'm going to watch Two Towers Oktober the 26:th in Stockholm with special guest Andy Sserkisss holding the forewords, probably it'll be the short version :/

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  59. philly area show by phillyclaude · · Score: 1

    and....just scored 5 tickets to the philly show

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  60. heh... "our movies" by Pastry · · Score: 1

    Yup,

    I've been enjoying a lot of American movies lately: the Lord of the Rings movies, the Harry Potter movies, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, and Spirited Away (that one's a Disney movie!).

    I guess Hollywood can produce a decent movie after all! Well... executive produce anyway.

  61. UK Cinemas? by Jobby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone know which UK cinemas this is going to be showing at (if any) ?

  62. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by evilviper · · Score: 1

    They don't make any more money, and they are using up the theatre for that much longer. They don't give a damn about you...

    One of the main reasons I haven't gone to a theatre in years.

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  63. No speaker bracelets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    '...when a spam result comes up in a search, Google not only blocks the spam, but every result after it.'

    So only spammers advertise speaker bracelets? I'm disappointed.
  64. LOTR x 3 by Scholasticus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Okay, lemme get this straight ... it's a story about a hobbit who has to throw the One Ring of Power into Mount Doom to save Middle Earth from the Dark Lord Sauron. It starts off with Bilbo Baggins leaving the Shire and walking off on a long journey. Then Frodo & Company walk to Bree, after which Aragorn joins them and they walk to Rivendell. Then Legolas, Gandalf and Gimli join them and they set off walking toward the Misty Mountains ... you get the idea. Our way of appreciating this epic of walking is to sit for ten hours straight. Maybe I'll walk to the theater.

  65. Intermission? by tavis · · Score: 1

    I called my local theater here in Orange Park and asked if there were breaks in between each movie. They replied that the showtimes are 1, 5:30, and 10. If my calculations are correct that gives you between 45 - 60 mins in between each movie. Plenty good for going to dinner/lunch/linner, whatever.

  66. Canada by Trillian_Angel · · Score: 1

    For the Canadians in the Montreal/Ottawa area, I started making a slew of phonecalls to various theaters. In Montreal, the paramount is NOT playing the marathon, Cinema Guzzo is NOT playing the marathon, the AMC Old Forum Is NOT playing the marathon. Players isn't I don't think either, but that is because the only line I got a hold of just mentioned they were a part of Paramount, which isn't holding the marathon. In a few minutes, I'll be making calls to all of the Cinema Odeon owned theaters, and I'll be making a search for any Alliance Atlantis ones, but so far, it has been a needle in a haystack. In Ottawa, I was only able to get a hold of Gatineua, and they hung up on me, so I don't know what is up with that theater, I'm currently trying to get a hold of the World Exchange. If I find out anymore, I'll drop some notes down. I don't have any plans to call Toronto at this moment, because I'm hoping one of the Ottawa or Montreal theaters will have it. :(

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  67. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

    Actually, the theaters would probably love to have intermissions in long movies. They make good coin on the concessions, so any time we're in the lobby and not in the seats is to their advantage.

    It's pressure from the studios preventing this from happening. The studios are getting a piece of ticket sales, so they want to maximize the number of screenings per day and minimize the time in between start times.

  68. No Nooze is good news by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 1
    the official says. "We're just not going to pursue it. It is the policy of the Justice Department to exhaust all other means before seeking information from members of the media."

    That perfectly coincides with my own personal policy...

    (I used to work in television news, and as a result, I don't think I will ever trust anything the media has to say.)

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  69. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by Pope · · Score: 1

    "Lawrence of Arabia" always had an intermission. From what I gather, the DVD even has the 15 minutes of music and black screen as part of the show! That's a bit silly IMO.

    A couple of years ago, one of the better movie theatres in Toronto was closing, so for the last weekend they were showing "Lawrence of Arabia." A few blocks away at one of the best theatres in the city, they were showing "Apocalypse Now: Redux." Being the enterprising young men, my friend Dan and I saw both shows! We walked from one to the other (there was about an hour in between shows) grabbed some fast food and tickets, and headed on in.

    As long as the breaks between each of the LOTR flicks is about an hour, I could easily do all 3. I've done the Film Festical when it's in town, seeing up to 5 movies a day starting at 10am and seeing the last on at midnight. The trick is to eat normally and not overdose on the caffeine.

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  70. Re:What's happened to the concept of Intermissions by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    > 400 lb weight of your average LOTR nerd
    Avarage?
    Average meaning mean I'm guessing.....


    Not the mean - he's probably using a weighted average.

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  71. *One* Theater? by Jack+Auf · · Score: 1

    The trilogy is showing in only one theater in the Los Angeles area, in Hollywood. That is just stupendously stupid.

    According to the 2000 census there are 2.7M people over the age of 18 just in the city of Los Angeles, nevermind the rest of L.A. county which is probably another 3M-4M or so over the age of 18. It's going to be *very* crowded in that theater.

    On top of that Hollywood is one of the very worst areas for traffic, and especially for parking (and in SoCal that's really saying something).

    WTF are they thinking?

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  72. Should have watched the bonus materials by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 1

    I completely missed that.

    I saw the "Making Of..." special on TV and that was enough for me.

    I assume that Newline wanted to keep the length down to allow more screenings per day. More screenings = more revenue. This is a bonus for theatres as well since they will sell more concessions for each screening.

    Would have helped if I actually saw the bonus materials, never bothered, I was too hyped to watch the extended versions to care.

    I would buy the extended versions in a heartbeat, but I am waiting until all the extended versions will be available as a set, which I assume is a given.

  73. LOTR: Seattle AMC Cinerama ticket-seekers by Helen+O'Boyle · · Score: 1

    I've been trying for tickets since 9:55am PDT and finally got through to customer service to ask "what's going on?".

    In case you're wondering, too....

    The scoop: Apparently movietickets.com (the only way to get trilogy tickets for Cinerama) is experiencing technical difficulties connecting to some or all AMC theaters. As of 10:35am PDT they are supposedly NOT yet sold out... they haven't been able to sell ANYTHING yet. The customer service rep advised me to try back every half hour.

  74. Denver: slight problem with theater name... by freeBill · · Score: 1

    ...The Colorado Center 9 is *not* listed in any of my resources (yellow pages, moviefone, etc) as the "Regal Cinema Colorado Colorado Center 9" but as the "United Artists Colorado Center 9."

    Not that this should be a stumbling block for the true LOTR fan

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  75. I live in North Dakota, you insensitive clod! by doc_traig · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    It is informative!

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  76. Phoenix sold out in less than 30min. . . by Moekandu · · Score: 1

    They stated that tickets would go on sale online the same time as the box office opened. Never happened. By the time I got to the theater, they were sold out. I suspect that this will be the case for across the U.S.

    It's like promoting a major concert, but only selling 200 seats.

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  77. YEAH BABY! I got a TICKET! by CrackHappy · · Score: 1

    And they're NOW SOLD OUT at my theater. Whew! I got there just as the box office opened, to quite a line around the corner. They sold out in about 1 hour.

    Anyway, I cannot wait. As I have a renaissance costume for the Renaissance Faires I attend, I'll be wearing that. I also bought a special package that lets me eat all the hot dogs, popcorn, soda, candy, and whatever else I want for the snack bar all day at no extra charge.

    This is going to be SO SWEET!

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  78. LTOR Projectionist POV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've worked as a movie theatre projectionist for a number of years, and while I have no insider knowledge about this particular release I'm sure there will be intermissions. You see, film is long and heavy, and is most popularly run on to and off of what are called platters. The largest platters I've ever see could only physically hold about 4.5 hours of film. Add to this fact a 5 hr film would weigh in excess of 200 lbs, and that the platter motor and arm will have trouble with something that heavy, figure you'll be guaranteed your bathroom breaks. It'll take at least two minutes to switch the film to the next piece, and if I were running this movie I'd plan for at least three pieces.

  79. LotR extended in Australia by llib · · Score: 1

    Hoyts have the extended editions listed:
    FotR "Limited release on December 11 - 17
    at Fox studios, George St, Highpoint, Carousel.
    Also screening as part of the Lord of the Rings Double Feature on December 23/24."
    tTT
    "Limited release on December 18 - 22
    at Fox studios, George St, Highpoint, Carousel.
    Also screening as part of the Lord of the Rings Double Feature on December 23/24."