I've got to agree with the man too. Sure, there are other reasons why I prefer GNOME, but aesthetics are probably the biggest reason I don't use KDE. It really does bother me to look at it, even after trying 101 different themes.
Aesthetics are a very important part of computing enjoyment. If it isn't pleasing to the eye, you wont want to look at it. Now, for what its worth, I agree with you that a GUI should help you work faster, but if you can work equally fast in either desktop, wouldn't you choose the one that is more appealing visually?
The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.
Open Source has very little to do with free(beer). It never has been and it never will be. Open Source, by the definition you alluded to, is about the openness of the source and the redistribution of that source and/or its modifications. Even the latter is regulated very loosely by the Open Source Intiatives guidlines.
BTW, Nat is not someone I would consider new to the world of Open Source.
I understand exactly where the extra cost is coming from. I also believe that there should be a cost increase associated with that "Peace of Mind". However, that "Peace of Mind", does not come at the cost Sun is pushing.
CTO's are seeing their budgets slip through their fingers like water in their cupped hands. When it comes time to acquire a couple of new web servers, their eventually going to turn to Linux, or *shudder* Microsoft. Cost is now an issue more than ever.
First, let me say that I agree with you. But, I'm beginning to think that Sun is going to start losing more and more to Linux. When I saw that this machine was released, I headed straight over to the Sun store to see the pricing and wasn't completely shocked. However when I started looking at the costs of expansions this is what I found.
Sun FastEthernet 10/100Base w/ MII -- $695
10X DVD-ROM SCSI based-- $400
73GB 10,000RPM FC -- $4,100
If you look at the SunBlade 100's options its even scarier.
16X DVD-ROM - IDE based -- $295
20GB 7200RPM EIDE -- $300
Now I absolutely love Solaris and Sun Hardware, in fact, I'm using an Ultra-10 now. I just think these prices are a little out of hand. Especially when you take the time, I'm not about to take, to look at the costs of the same items from the actual manufacturers of the products. The Quantum manufactered, Sun branded, DLT drive I installed yesterday, cost $1000 more for the purple die job and Sun logo.
I'm no socialite, nor am I a couch potato, but the best of both worlds can be had, by having some friends over to watch a game, movie, or really good television show.
It's especially cheap when you look at the cost of some other products like Autonomy. I used to work for a company that paid $50K for it, and kept paying and paying and paying. I believe they spent upwards of $100K before it was implemented to their satisfaction.
the target does not have to be absolutely accurate. scorching afghanistan and removing it from the map will remove nearly all of bin laden's ground troops and all of his civilian support. it may even make him a target from his own people.
Do you honestly think the people of afghanistan have any clue? Sure, some do, especially within the ruling Taliban government. BUT, many people in afghanistan are not a party to the Taliban. A many people in that nation have taken up arms against the Taliban. Some of them have not forgotten that many Americans and Brits fought alongside them against the Soviets.
Besides, Bin Laden isn't even an afghani, he's a Saudi and his supporters are scattered all over the world. By your grand scheme, we would have to Nuke Iran, Sudan, Yemen, and large portions of Ethiopia, Somalia, and countless other nations.
if you commit a terrorist act, or you know someone that commits or is planning a terrorist act against this country -- you should die. the trickle down effect of this will rid the world of this plague.
OR, you mobilize a couple billion Muslims against you. You kill one innocent, and their family is more likely to become a supporter of Bin Laden then the people who killed their loved one. The more you kill the more you drive into the arms of your enemy. If you don't believe me open any history book. One only needs to look at the numerous examples out there. The rise of Christianity in Ancient Rome, the aforementioned invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviets, the fall of the Khmer Rouge as well as any other Despotic system.
His reasoning doesn't stink. A little overly optimistic, but you apparently haven't been reading the news for the last couple months.
Israel has been waging an all out war on Hamas, and their killing innocents by the hundreds. As a result, Hamas is gaining popular support by leaps and bounds, and so is Saddam Hussein as he's been openly supporting Hamas. News reports have shown that the Iraqi flag is almost as prevalent as the Hamas flag in Palestinian refugee camps.
A complete pacifistic reaction does nothing. Not even a change in U.S. intervention in the middle east would change anything. Unmitigated reactionary violence however is tantamount to disaster. The US response must be precise, measured, and carried out with absolute lethality.
This is not Flamebait, its an opinion. One that is as seriously misguided as the response about someone soon joining the stone age.
We, the United States, must proceed with caution and great care. Immediate retalition almost always misses the mark, and does nothing but strengthen the resolve of our enemies and push those on the fence firmly into the arms of those enemies. I do feel that retaliation is in order, but it must be precise. AND! it needs to be directed at the right people.
Ever seen the plaza right outside the WTO? Not to mention a lot of people go to some of the cafes for breakfast and such. I'm not saying 10,000, but it could have happened.
Fortunately, I don't think it will be quite that many.
Not in all municipalities. Many municipalities put all of the proceeds into a general account and forbid the consideration of those monies when determining the police department's budget.
IBM is playing the game much smarter than that. By openly embracing Linux, IBM is using Linux as a club against ALL their competitors. If your a large corporation who's looking for the answer to a complex business issue, who would you go to? IBM unlike any of their competitors has the ability to sell their customers what ever they want. Want mainframes?, IBM's got 'em. Want Windows desktops?, IBM's got 'em. Looking for inexpensive Intel boxes running Linux?, IBM's got 'em. Want all three and support for them? IBM's got that too. Couple these offerings with DB2, Websphere, MQSeries, Tivoli, and Domino and IBM has the most impressive stable in all of IT.
It isn't just Microsoft that need worry. Compaq, HP, and Sun should be taking careful notes. In fact, I hope they do, because choice is good.
This just gave me a frightening thought. The EFF is currently engaged in numerous lawsuits, what happens if they start getting directly attacked like this one? More importantly, what happens when it becomes a trend? It is quite possible that they may run into the problem of not being able to pay for their own defense(s).
OK, its relatively unlikely, but entirely possible.
Now go make a donation.
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It's a different kind of subscription model genius.
This is more akin to the MSDN subscription model. You sign up and they send you the software periodically. Once you receive the software, it's yours.
MS's latest model however, is you sign up, and they let you use the software. And, I don't think I've seen anybody call it an unfair business practice, just a stupid business practice and one not many people are going to be comfortable with.
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I've got to agree with the man too. Sure, there are other reasons why I prefer GNOME, but aesthetics are probably the biggest reason I don't use KDE. It really does bother me to look at it, even after trying 101 different themes.
Aesthetics are a very important part of computing enjoyment. If it isn't pleasing to the eye, you wont want to look at it. Now, for what its worth, I agree with you that a GUI should help you work faster, but if you can work equally fast in either desktop, wouldn't you choose the one that is more appealing visually?
You just read the bolded heading didn't you?
The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.
Open Source has very little to do with free(beer). It never has been and it never will be. Open Source, by the definition you alluded to, is about the openness of the source and the redistribution of that source and/or its modifications. Even the latter is regulated very loosely by the Open Source Intiatives guidlines.
BTW, Nat is not someone I would consider new to the world of Open Source.
I understand exactly where the extra cost is coming from. I also believe that there should be a cost increase associated with that "Peace of Mind". However, that "Peace of Mind", does not come at the cost Sun is pushing.
CTO's are seeing their budgets slip through their fingers like water in their cupped hands. When it comes time to acquire a couple of new web servers, their eventually going to turn to Linux, or *shudder* Microsoft. Cost is now an issue more than ever.
Sun FastEthernet 10/100Base w/ MII -- $695
10X DVD-ROM SCSI based-- $400
73GB 10,000RPM FC -- $4,100
If you look at the SunBlade 100's options its even scarier.
16X DVD-ROM - IDE based -- $295
20GB 7200RPM EIDE -- $300
Now I absolutely love Solaris and Sun Hardware, in fact, I'm using an Ultra-10 now. I just think these prices are a little out of hand. Especially when you take the time, I'm not about to take, to look at the costs of the same items from the actual manufacturers of the products. The Quantum manufactered, Sun branded, DLT drive I installed yesterday, cost $1000 more for the purple die job and Sun logo.
I'm no socialite, nor am I a couch potato, but the best of both worlds can be had, by having some friends over to watch a game, movie, or really good television show.
hmmm...Nicely done Taco.
Congratulations!
Now for the inevitable question. The question that follows every wedding announcement.
When can we expect Sub-Commander Taco?
It's especially cheap when you look at the cost of some other products like Autonomy. I used to work for a company that paid $50K for it, and kept paying and paying and paying. I believe they spent upwards of $100K before it was implemented to their satisfaction.
They still own SONY music and AFAIK Columbia.
You have got to be a complete idiot.
the target does not have to be absolutely accurate. scorching afghanistan and removing it from the map will remove nearly all of bin laden's ground troops and all of his civilian support. it may even make him a target from his own people.
Do you honestly think the people of afghanistan have any clue? Sure, some do, especially within the ruling Taliban government. BUT, many people in afghanistan are not a party to the Taliban. A many people in that nation have taken up arms against the Taliban. Some of them have not forgotten that many Americans and Brits fought alongside them against the Soviets.
Besides, Bin Laden isn't even an afghani, he's a Saudi and his supporters are scattered all over the world. By your grand scheme, we would have to Nuke Iran, Sudan, Yemen, and large portions of Ethiopia, Somalia, and countless other nations.
if you commit a terrorist act, or you know someone that commits or is planning a terrorist act against this country -- you should die. the trickle down effect of this will rid the world of this plague.
OR, you mobilize a couple billion Muslims against you. You kill one innocent, and their family is more likely to become a supporter of Bin Laden then the people who killed their loved one. The more you kill the more you drive into the arms of your enemy. If you don't believe me open any history book. One only needs to look at the numerous examples out there. The rise of Christianity in Ancient Rome, the aforementioned invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviets, the fall of the Khmer Rouge as well as any other Despotic system.
His reasoning doesn't stink. A little overly optimistic, but you apparently haven't been reading the news for the last couple months.
Israel has been waging an all out war on Hamas, and their killing innocents by the hundreds. As a result, Hamas is gaining popular support by leaps and bounds, and so is Saddam Hussein as he's been openly supporting Hamas. News reports have shown that the Iraqi flag is almost as prevalent as the Hamas flag in Palestinian refugee camps.
A complete pacifistic reaction does nothing. Not even a change in U.S. intervention in the middle east would change anything. Unmitigated reactionary violence however is tantamount to disaster. The US response must be precise, measured, and carried out with absolute lethality.
This is not Flamebait, its an opinion. One that is as seriously misguided as the response about someone soon joining the stone age.
We, the United States, must proceed with caution and great care. Immediate retalition almost always misses the mark, and does nothing but strengthen the resolve of our enemies and push those on the fence firmly into the arms of those enemies. I do feel that retaliation is in order, but it must be precise. AND! it needs to be directed at the right people.
Ever seen the plaza right outside the WTO? Not to mention a lot of people go to some of the cafes for breakfast and such. I'm not saying 10,000, but it could have happened.
Fortunately, I don't think it will be quite that many.
Except, there is an even greater loss to the insurance company if there are no police in the immediate area, and the driver manages to kill someone.
No, insurance companies would better off mandating that these sensors prohibit the car from starting in the first place.
Not in all municipalities. Many municipalities put all of the proceeds into a general account and forbid the consideration of those monies when determining the police department's budget.
"Informative"?? uh oh, I don't think I'm the only one Jon's getting too.
That was a joke.
Didn't you know that Sauron personifies rampant corporatism in 1930's England. And, the Nine represent the nine largest "Company Men" of the day.
I think Jon's starting to get to me.
Guilty, your Honor. Then again, maybe the "normal" smell-free guys like you should try reading a dictionary. It is spelled W-E-I-R-D.
IBM is playing the game much smarter than that. By openly embracing Linux, IBM is using Linux as a club against ALL their competitors. If your a large corporation who's looking for the answer to a complex business issue, who would you go to? IBM unlike any of their competitors has the ability to sell their customers what ever they want. Want mainframes?, IBM's got 'em. Want Windows desktops?, IBM's got 'em. Looking for inexpensive Intel boxes running Linux?, IBM's got 'em. Want all three and support for them? IBM's got that too. Couple these offerings with DB2, Websphere, MQSeries, Tivoli, and Domino and IBM has the most impressive stable in all of IT.
It isn't just Microsoft that need worry. Compaq, HP, and Sun should be taking careful notes. In fact, I hope they do, because choice is good.
You don't have to be a christian to be a good person and you don't have to be a good person to be a christian.
This just gave me a frightening thought. The EFF is currently engaged in numerous lawsuits, what happens if they start getting directly attacked like this one? More importantly, what happens when it becomes a trend? It is quite possible that they may run into the problem of not being able to pay for their own defense(s).
OK, its relatively unlikely, but entirely possible.
Now go make a donation.
You are correct, "Sound of Silence".
However, its "Spirit of Radio", no "the".
I'll give you that, but in a business? In a business who's business is e-com? Or a business who's hosting other company's sites and databases?
I don't think so.
Sure my passwords for my home box aren't the greatest, but my firewall/router's sure is.
It's a different kind of subscription model genius.
This is more akin to the MSDN subscription model. You sign up and they send you the software periodically. Once you receive the software, it's yours.
MS's latest model however, is you sign up, and they let you use the software. And, I don't think I've seen anybody call it an unfair business practice, just a stupid business practice and one not many people are going to be comfortable with.
Please tell me you do that with a script.
I can get "Battlefield Earth" on DVD too.
:)