...Yes, it's time to take on the anti-virus software vendors.
It looks like your whole point is that anti-virus companies are using media sensationalism to further their agenda (increase profits). I can only guess what your agenda is. Are you trying to foster a 'without us the whole world would be corrupt' image? Or is it a slow news day?
Not to say I don't agree that Virus companies are corrupt. There was a case a few years back when a virus author sent one copy to a certain well-know anti-virus company for academic purposes. Soon after it was found in the wild. But this story is a good example of the Slashdot opnionated stories that preach to the choir. I am personally very weary of the motives of anyone that preaches any type message to the already converted.
...maybe they will actually do something about it."
Yeah, it's too bad the game industry didn't have more money. If they did, they'd be able to pay to have something like the DMCA or SSSCA enacted against cheaters.
Point wasn't that one CPU is better than another. It was that the original post said 'poor little cpu' implying that it was overburdened by the task of serving web pages. My point was that the pda is pretty powerful!
poor little 206mHz ARM processor with 64mb running a webserver. We used to run a 100mhz sparc with 64mb that did 750k dynamically generated hits per day.
whatever... Fox would just pre-empt the good shows (Futurama!) with stupid sporting events anyway, complain that no one watched them while they weren't on, and then cancel the shows.
I don't know if anyone posted this yet (or if it might've not been moderated above my threshold), but....
One method would be to prompt for the passphrase upon starting the process. That way only a trusted admin (if there is such a thing) would have the passphrase. Then the passphrase would be stored in memory and never on disk.
Of course there's the possibility that someone could cause the process to dump core and sift through it looking for the passphrase. Or someone could read from a memory psuedo device. Either way would likely require root access. You could try and prevent this by obfuscating the passphrase in memory, but that is a cat and mouse game. I think if you went with the premise that if someone gained access to the machine with enough priveledges to read a process's memory space, there's nothing you could do.
1 - It's possible to have TV without advertisments. Look at HBO and their award-winning programming. I'd gladly pay for a FOX channel that played good shows (Futurama!) without commercial interruptions!
2 - I imagine it's been tough for the TV stations since cable. They used to share with a small handful of other stations in any particular market. Now the value of an ad on a channel has shrunk since viewers are spread among many more channels.
(Disclaimer: I'm not a media market analyst, but then when does not being an expert in anything prevent anyone from saying anything on Slashdot?:)
Ok, I know I'm late to the party, but I just have to get this out, if for no other reason then to preserve this in a/. post for my own personal reference and amusement:
From the testimony of Jack Valenti:
(Jack addressing "Mr. Chairman and ladies and gentlemen of the committee." I am going to stand, if you don't mind, Mr. Chairman, cause I have what is known as "visual aids."
Jackass. I think Mr. Chairman and ladies and gentlemen of the committee know what a fucking visual aid is.
I am merely coming to start off by talking about the American film and television industry, not as an economic enterprise, but as a great national asset to this country, to the U.S. Treasury and the strength of the American dollar. And I am not just talking on behalf of people whose names are household words, like Clint Eastwood and some of his small band of peers.
No comment.
... But now we are facing a very new and a very troubling assault on our fiscal security...
Nice contradiction there.
Now, these machines are advertised for one purpose in life. Their only single mission, their primary mission is to copy coyrighted material that belongs to other people.
(Johannas Valenti, owner of the Townsville horse and buggy dealer, 1912:) "The only reason the sell these cars is for one reason: to put me out of business. See, here on the window sticker: 'Get there faster than a horse and buggy.' I rest my case your honor."
Now, again, citing the fact that 100 percent of these machines are made in Japan and 85 percent of all of the blank tapes are made in Japan, and I say that, Mr. Chairman, because I. have to keep coming back to this trade asset because if the Congress doesn't act, then what we are going to be doing is exporting our jobs out of this country to another country, beyond the real of our own shore.
My grandmother heard similar things in Nazi Germany.
Now, let me tell you something about how this business works. My God, Clint Eastwood and Terry Semple, who is the head of Warner Bros., who is in this room, can speak to this with for more accuracy and understanding than I, but I think it is important to a brief summary.
I'll review God's testimony later. Oh, and what's with this obsession with Clint?
The permission of the copyright owner is required for the use of their programs in all markets. Now, I those markets include theaters, cable, pay cable, pay television, prerecorded cassettes, network television, syndicated television, video discs. Every one of those markets is going to be competing for Mr. Eastwood's new film "Firefox." They are going to license that film at a negotiated price. (bolding mine)
I LOVED Firefox, especially when they blew them damn copyright infringing commies right out of the frickin sky!
They can make more money by exploiting our computers. That's why they want "certified" systems - to control what the computer users can do with the equipment they (the users) paid for.
You know, I've been reading/. for years, and I can usually predict most somments people make. Once in a great while one comes along that makes me slap my forehead and say "shit, I never though of that!" Yours did it. Thanks.
There are an estimated 1 trillion barells in world reserves. The world eats about 27 million barells per year. It's estimated that we increase oil use at about 2.2 percent per year. At that rate we'll only use up about 10 billion barrels, or 1% of the oil reserves, in 100 years.
Okidata 400e LED printer holy crap that was my first semi-laser printer.. wow! i must've printed about a million pages on that thing until one day it the memory must've gone bad and it started printing complete garbage.
99% of the stuff you're printing is going to be black and white anyway, so why not...
Wow, how did you know exactly how much I print on black and white and how much I print in color? Wait, are you spying on me? Oh, I know, you must be Bill Gates, since Windows must be monitoring how much color data gets sent to my printer port so they can sell that marketing data to vendors like HP.
Seriously, I always said "Oh, I'll never print anything out in color," then I actually got an inkjet printer, and now at least 50% of the pages I print are in color. They aren't just pages with color I could turn off and do without, either. I print things like maps, signs, photos (granted not archival quality, but good enough to send pics of my cats to family members), etc..
Oh I'm usually much worse at spelling than that, although I don't attribute my horrible spelling on TV. I blame my partial deafness when I was a child. I'm not an idiot that can't spell. I'm a pretty smart person that can't spell. Besides, there are worse things in life than being a poor speller, like someone that uses generalized personal attacks (i.e.: calling someone an idiot).:)
is it possible for there to be any kind of media without advertising?
Well, there's XMRadio. I *heart* XMRadio. a lot of the stations are commercial-free, and are supported by the XMRadio subscription revinues. It reaminst to be seen if this particular model lasts with them, but I'm optimistic.
There's also Mad magazine, which was ad-free (with the exception of their own ads) until about a year or two ago. Frankly I'm completely amazed they lasted that long!
But if you're looking for a real winner, HBO is a commercial media provider that doesn't have commercial interruptions. Sure they have commercials between shows, but those are non-intrusive and simply promote HBO's own programming. Other movie networks like Showtime are also dabbling in original programming.
The sucess of these networks and their shows prove that you can provide entertainment without having to rely on the half-centry-old advertisment model of interrupting shows with commercials. Shit, let's say Fox started offering a new network that played commercial-free shows. I'd probably pay $5-10/month for it (provided they had something to offer of course, like FUTUREAMA DAMNIT oh excuse me).
It's pretty obvious that the entire traditional TV industry (i.e.: ABC, NBC, CBS, and the newer networks like FOX, WB and UPN to a certain extent) have all been working with very tight profit margins, and have been extremely afraid of taking any risks or making any changes over the years. Of course they can sit around and prey the world doesn't change, but that isn't going to prevent other networks like HBO from stealing viewers, nor does it prevent simple gadgets like ReplayTV from disrupting their revinue stream.
In other words, what we're witnessing is a cranky TV/advertsing industry that is pissed about the world changing, but are powerless to change themselves.
Felt tip markers are not primarially designed to circumvent access controls. Felt tip markers have lots of commercially significant purposes other than circumvention.
So that begs the question, how would the courts (or lawyers) prove that DeCSS's primary purpose is to circumvent copyright. What if the developers developed it for some other purpose, and it (tongue in cheek) just happened to circumvent dvd copy protection?
My point was that everyone only hears the sensationalized story 'some old lady got $2 million' (or whatever) from mcdonalds. They never hear the rest of the facts, like her inital award was equal to only 2 days of mcdonald's national coffee sales, and that the award was later reduced to something like $400,000.
In other words, I wasn't siding with lawyers on the case, just pointing out misinformation. I happen to love the overlawyered site, and as a matter of fact, just donated money to them yesterday as a matter of fact!
Its similar to the stupid McDonalds Coffee incident...
This is somewhat off topic, but please read up on the facts on the McDonald's Scalding Coffee incident. Look here or do a quick search on Google. I can't find it, but there's a great site out there that talks about all the highly publicised lawsuits (like the guy who got 300 million dollars for a bad paint job on his bmw), and debunks the myths around each case. Fun read. Media loves twisting these and other so-called frivilous lawsuits to boost their ratings. Pass it on. Thanks.
That said, I do agree with you that people should be held accountable for their own actions. I don't like being parented by government.
Slashdot Mirror
...Yes, it's time to take on the anti-virus software vendors.
It looks like your whole point is that anti-virus companies are using media sensationalism to further their agenda (increase profits). I can only guess what your agenda is. Are you trying to foster a 'without us the whole world would be corrupt' image? Or is it a slow news day?
Not to say I don't agree that Virus companies are corrupt. There was a case a few years back when a virus author sent one copy to a certain well-know anti-virus company for academic purposes. Soon after it was found in the wild. But this story is a good example of the Slashdot opnionated stories that preach to the choir. I am personally very weary of the motives of anyone that preaches any type message to the already converted.
...maybe they will actually do something about it."
Yeah, it's too bad the game industry didn't have more money. If they did, they'd be able to pay to have something like the DMCA or SSSCA enacted against cheaters.
Oops, sorry, ignore my response. I thought you were referring to my post, not the "yeah but SPARC > ARM. It's not all about the raw Mhz" troll :)
Point wasn't that one CPU is better than another. It was that the original post said 'poor little cpu' implying that it was overburdened by the task of serving web pages. My point was that the pda is pretty powerful!
poor little 206mHz ARM processor with 64mb running a webserver.
We used to run a 100mhz sparc with 64mb that did 750k dynamically generated hits per day.
It's amazing what is considered slow...
whatever... Fox would just pre-empt the good shows (Futurama!) with stupid sporting events anyway, complain that no one watched them while they weren't on, and then cancel the shows.
Oh, no kidding!
I don't know if anyone posted this yet (or if it might've not been moderated above my threshold), but....
One method would be to prompt for the passphrase upon starting the process. That way only a trusted admin (if there is such a thing) would have the passphrase. Then the passphrase would be stored in memory and never on disk.
Of course there's the possibility that someone could cause the process to dump core and sift through it looking for the passphrase. Or someone could read from a memory psuedo device. Either way would likely require root access. You could try and prevent this by obfuscating the passphrase in memory, but that is a cat and mouse game. I think if you went with the premise that if someone gained access to the machine with enough priveledges to read a process's memory space, there's nothing you could do.
A few quick points:
:)
1 - It's possible to have TV without advertisments. Look at HBO and their award-winning programming. I'd gladly pay for a FOX channel that played good shows (Futurama!) without commercial interruptions!
2 - I imagine it's been tough for the TV stations since cable. They used to share with a small handful of other stations in any particular market. Now the value of an ad on a channel has shrunk since viewers are spread among many more channels.
(Disclaimer: I'm not a media market analyst, but then when does not being an expert in anything prevent anyone from saying anything on Slashdot?
Ok, I know I'm late to the party, but I just have to get this out, if for no other reason then to preserve this in a /. post for my own personal reference and amusement:
...
From the testimony of Jack Valenti:
(Jack addressing "Mr. Chairman and ladies and gentlemen of the committee." I am going to stand, if you don't mind, Mr. Chairman, cause I have what is known as "visual aids."
Jackass. I think Mr. Chairman and ladies and gentlemen of the committee know what a fucking visual aid is.
I am merely coming to start off by talking about the American film and television industry, not as an economic enterprise, but as a great national asset to this country, to the U.S. Treasury and the strength of the American dollar. And I am not just talking on behalf of people whose names are household words, like Clint Eastwood and some of his small band of peers.
No comment.
... But now we are facing a very new and a very troubling assault on our fiscal security
Nice contradiction there.
Now, these machines are advertised for one purpose in life. Their only single mission, their primary mission is to copy coyrighted material that belongs to other people.
(Johannas Valenti, owner of the Townsville horse and buggy dealer, 1912:) "The only reason the sell these cars is for one reason: to put me out of business. See, here on the window sticker: 'Get there faster than a horse and buggy.' I rest my case your honor."
Now, again, citing the fact that 100 percent of these machines are made in Japan and 85 percent of all of the blank tapes are made in Japan, and I say that, Mr. Chairman, because I. have to keep coming back to this trade asset because if the Congress doesn't act, then what we are going to be doing is exporting our jobs out of this country to another country, beyond the real of our own shore.
My grandmother heard similar things in Nazi Germany.
Now, let me tell you something about how this business works. My God, Clint Eastwood and Terry Semple, who is the head of Warner Bros., who is in this room, can speak to this with for more accuracy and understanding than I, but I think it is important to a brief summary.
I'll review God's testimony later. Oh, and what's with this obsession with Clint?
The permission of the copyright owner is required for the use of their programs in all markets. Now, I those markets include theaters, cable, pay cable, pay television, prerecorded cassettes, network television, syndicated television, video discs. Every one of those markets is going to be competing for Mr. Eastwood's new film "Firefox." They are going to license that film at a negotiated price. (bolding mine)
I LOVED Firefox, especially when they blew them damn copyright infringing commies right out of the frickin sky!
blah blah blah this is boring. Time to eat. Bye
They can make more money by exploiting our computers. That's why they want "certified" systems - to control what the computer users can do with the equipment they (the users) paid for.
/. for years, and I can usually predict most somments people make. Once in a great while one comes along that makes me slap my forehead and say "shit, I never though of that!" Yours did it. Thanks.
You know, I've been reading
(BTW, I'm not being serious, not sarchastic.).
Um, tomorrow's June 1st, not April 1st. Come on, guys.
oops, i stand so corrected. i swear i saw 27 million.. :)
There are an estimated 1 trillion barells in world reserves. The world eats about 27 million barells per year. It's estimated that we increase oil use at about 2.2 percent per year. At that rate we'll only use up about 10 billion barrels, or 1% of the oil reserves, in 100 years.
Look it up in an encyclopedia.
:)
oops, i meant pictures of my pussy.
Okidata 400e LED printer
holy crap that was my first semi-laser printer.. wow! i must've printed about a million pages on that thing until one day it the memory must've gone bad and it started printing complete garbage.
99% of the stuff you're printing is going to be black and white anyway, so why not...
Wow, how did you know exactly how much I print on black and white and how much I print in color? Wait, are you spying on me? Oh, I know, you must be Bill Gates, since Windows must be monitoring how much color data gets sent to my printer port so they can sell that marketing data to vendors like HP.
Seriously, I always said "Oh, I'll never print anything out in color," then I actually got an inkjet printer, and now at least 50% of the pages I print are in color. They aren't just pages with color I could turn off and do without, either. I print things like maps, signs, photos (granted not archival quality, but good enough to send pics of my cats to family members), etc..
Any others?
Oh I'm usually much worse at spelling than that, although I don't attribute my horrible spelling on TV. I blame my partial deafness when I was a child. I'm not an idiot that can't spell. I'm a pretty smart person that can't spell. Besides, there are worse things in life than being a poor speller, like someone that uses generalized personal attacks (i.e.: calling someone an idiot). :)
is it possible for there to be any kind of media without advertising?
Well, there's XMRadio. I *heart* XMRadio. a lot of the stations are commercial-free, and are supported by the XMRadio subscription revinues. It reaminst to be seen if this particular model lasts with them, but I'm optimistic.
There's also Mad magazine, which was ad-free (with the exception of their own ads) until about a year or two ago. Frankly I'm completely amazed they lasted that long!
But if you're looking for a real winner, HBO is a commercial media provider that doesn't have commercial interruptions. Sure they have commercials between shows, but those are non-intrusive and simply promote HBO's own programming. Other movie networks like Showtime are also dabbling in original programming.
The sucess of these networks and their shows prove that you can provide entertainment without having to rely on the half-centry-old advertisment model of interrupting shows with commercials. Shit, let's say Fox started offering a new network that played commercial-free shows. I'd probably pay $5-10/month for it (provided they had something to offer of course, like FUTUREAMA DAMNIT oh excuse me).
It's pretty obvious that the entire traditional TV industry (i.e.: ABC, NBC, CBS, and the newer networks like FOX, WB and UPN to a certain extent) have all been working with very tight profit margins, and have been extremely afraid of taking any risks or making any changes over the years. Of course they can sit around and prey the world doesn't change, but that isn't going to prevent other networks like HBO from stealing viewers, nor does it prevent simple gadgets like ReplayTV from disrupting their revinue stream.
In other words, what we're witnessing is a cranky TV/advertsing industry that is pissed about the world changing, but are powerless to change themselves.
Felt tip markers are not primarially designed to circumvent access controls. Felt tip markers have lots of commercially significant purposes other than circumvention.
So that begs the question, how would the courts (or lawyers) prove that DeCSS's primary purpose is to circumvent copyright. What if the developers developed it for some other purpose, and it (tongue in cheek) just happened to circumvent dvd copy protection?
My point was that everyone only hears the sensationalized story 'some old lady got $2 million' (or whatever) from mcdonalds. They never hear the rest of the facts, like her inital award was equal to only 2 days of mcdonald's national coffee sales, and that the award was later reduced to something like $400,000.
In other words, I wasn't siding with lawyers on the case, just pointing out misinformation. I happen to love the overlawyered site, and as a matter of fact, just donated money to them yesterday as a matter of fact!
Its similar to the stupid McDonalds Coffee incident...
This is somewhat off topic, but please read up on the facts on the McDonald's Scalding Coffee incident. Look here or do a quick search on Google. I can't find it, but there's a great site out there that talks about all the highly publicised lawsuits (like the guy who got 300 million dollars for a bad paint job on his bmw), and debunks the myths around each case. Fun read. Media loves twisting these and other so-called frivilous lawsuits to boost their ratings. Pass it on. Thanks.
That said, I do agree with you that people should be held accountable for their own actions. I don't like being parented by government.
agreed.