Sometimes if you find someone who thinks logically and is against cartels that artifically inflate the prices of diamonds they will actually listen.
Just point your future (or current) mate to a couple articles written by respected publications (not crazy conspiricy rags) and many women will be appalled by what goes on to bring them their 'precious' diamond. If they still want one because it is tradition and everyone else has one, then I myself would reconsider spending my life with such a shallow, uncaring person.
Or you can just buy one of these man made ones and buck the entire system!:)
If you look the product up on the OCZ Technology website now their thermal paste is under recall. Also in the description of the product it does not mention silver at all. Looks like they have done some quick editing and stopped selling the product. Probably grinding up some of wives jewelry as I type
Forget about the Wright brothers and this Kiwi, the aliens who put us on this earth were obviously the first to fly. I mean come on people, it is simple logic!
Is this really even news anymore?/. must generate more SCO publicity than any other entity out there right now, which is only good for SCO.
How about/. create a sco.slashdot.org and post all the SCO crap there, so all of us who know they are full of crap and have become completely desensitized to the issue can stop beating the long dead horse. Those who enjoy beating a rotting carcass can continue to do so.
But you haven't built the 3rd fastest computer in the world
Nope, but a top 100 I have.
For serious scientific/engineering computations, 64-bit and having 2 FP units on each G5 are keys to success.. Memory can always be added later if it can be justified.
For the most part, these are the reason I am going with Opterons over our currents Xeons in the future. That and their benchmarks are quite a bit higher than any other 64-bit CPU out there.
Ummmm, 2*2Ghz*2instructions per processor outruns a SCSI drive interface just like it outruns an IDE drive interface, both of which out run the drive head moving into position to get the right stripe of data which is in turn faster than the fscking platter rotating around. Drive swap?!? Shit, they'll be avoiding that like the plague without regard to the interface.
Of course the disk is the bottleneck, exactly my point and U320 SCSI disks will increase that bottleneck even over SATA 150 drives.
It is always simple to say you won't swap until you have to solve a problem and not enough memory. Of course you try to avoid it, but sometimes it is unavoidable. Hell, I even said they probably don't need to swap and that is why this solution works for them.
Yeah, you could be more dense in 1 rack, but 50 full racks in a room would need to be submerged in a liquid to keep it cool.
Get yourself 6-8 high power Lieberts and you are just fine.
1. there aren't too many apps that stress a system more than the LINPACK benchmark, that's why they use it...duh,
there are plenty of apps that stress out a system as much as linpack, linpack just gives good benchmarking results.
the problem size used to benchmark is specifically chosen to max out the memory to get a real-world test of performance, again, that's why they use LINPACK...duh,
please tell me where you read that in the article. it looks to me like they were using linpack to get cpu benchmarks not memory intensive benchmarks. using linpack is far from real world.
the RAM limit is based on 1 GB DIMMS because 2 GB DDR400 DIMMS did not exist in any quantity before the machine was released and the specs finalized, the G5 can handle 2GB DIMMS with no problem (I know, I asked Apple), again, duh
please refer to http://www.apple.com/powermac/ and read the heading where it says can use up to 8GB of RAM. i will believe apple's always over exaggerated claims before i believe you.
if an app swaps on any machine you either a. took on a problem size too big for the machine, or b. wrote some really crappy code, anyone who writes scientific apps knows this
this is just simply a retarded statement. you could just as easy as say you bought a machine not large enough for the problems you need to solve which was my comment in the first place. you can always blame crappy code, but when you are simulating a cpu and you have a design flaw n the chip your app may use a shit pile of memory while simulating. this is not a fault of the app, it is a design fault. you need to use the memory so you can fix the design problems that caused the memory usage in the first place.
Know your facts before you post to a world-wide forum and look like a complete idiot! DUH!
I am speaking from experience when I tell you that building a large cluster from desktops is just not a good way to go. They take up a hell of a lot more room, they put out a lot more heat, and the remote management capabilites are degraded.
Once you go rack, you never go back. I much prefer a rack of 1U units that are built to be used in cluster situations.
I guess VT also has the luxury of running CPU intensive tasks. Those machines can only 8 GB RAM while other offerings can hold 16 GB and if they start to swap....ouch, not having SCSI drives will hurt.
All in all this setup is very impressive when just considering CPU performance. Wonder what is going to happen when a proffessor needs to run a few hundred jobs that use 10 or so GB of RAM each.
a lot of these units are sent to reviews before you can even buy the product in the store. with no actual consumer version to compare it against, everyone just pretty much accepts the results as long as they are within reason. by the time people are actually buying the products, reviewers have moved on to newer products.
car companies used to do this all the time. they would send a 'ringer' to the review magazines. you would then get your car, put it on a dyno or take to a track and not be able to match the numbers.
I would not worry too much if I were you about this comment. It is akin to being shot by a bb gun, a mere welt, compared to the gaping.45 wounds that are bleeding unchecked in Sun's belly.
I myself would say, "I won't change" never "I shant change". Anyway...
I didn't realize your questions were directed at me as an individual, I thought they were simply rhetorical.
Here are my answer's to your questions in the order you just asked.
1) Depends 2) Wife, children, family, pets, house, and even myself all need attention. Using public transportation and having it take 1-30 extra minutes a day is no big deal. If it grew larger than that I would really start to favor driving. 3) Yes 4) 30 minutes a day in stationary traffic with a total travel time of 60 minutes (one way), would be preferable to me over 90 minutes one way public transpertation, plus driving to and from bus/train station..
I think you have read me wrong here. I am a proponent of public transportation. When I travel into NYC from Long Island I use it. Right now I drive 4 miles to work and it takes 10 minutes...not much public transportation can do for me.
When I lived in Los Angeles it was a 10 minutes ride to the train and I took it to downtown LA. Faster and more effecient than driving. When I started to work in Malibu, I drove 27 miles one way. Took me 45 minutes, public transportation was not even possible.
It appears to me that you think all Americans are unwilling or do not care to take public transportation. This is not the case at all. We lack the infrastructure. With land being so abundant cities just sprawled (look at LA) and now for the vast majority of American public transportion is not available or not a real option. If you can drive to work in 45 minutes but it would take 1.5 hours for public trans you just drive, especially if you have to get in your car anyway to drive to a bus/train stop.
Now I wouldn't go getting into any "Biggest and bestest economy in the world" pissing matches, because you and I both know that you'll loose.
I don't see how I could lose since what I stated was fact. The US has the single largest economy in the world. No where did I say it was the best or the envy of the rest of the world.
"Oh I can't possibly change my schedule! It'll add hours to my commute!" you cry, your heckles raised. "I have my schedule, I have my car!" you bawl. "No, I shant change!" you scream and cry and gnash.
You must have us confused with the British. No one where would even say, let alone scream and cry "No, I shant change!". Nor do we scream or cry, we bitch and moan.
The vast majority of Americans however are animals of routine.
Hey I agree with this! Then again, so are all humans, so it really does not mean much.
Especially living on Long Island and driving into the city all the time. The traffic is getting astoundingly worse, approaching soul-sucking proportions.
You actually have one of the better public transportation systems in the country available to you. I have lived from coast to coast and the LIRR (Long Island Rail Road for those that don't know) has a pretty vast network over the entire island. You can be at a train station in 10 mins from just about anywhere barring you live on one of the forks. Then once in NY you of course have the subway.
If I were you I would stop dreaming about robotic chauffers and magic lines on the road and start taking public transportation since it is actually available to you! Being able to read, work, or sleep on the train is certainly better than sitting on the LIE in heavy traffic.
I think you got it wrong. Americans, although over consumers, are certainly not lazy. We have just about the longest work weeks and shortest amounts of vacation for a first world country. This is exactly why people can't just go adjusting their schedule. When you are so strapped for time that you find it car to eat three squares in a day or have a life outside of work, losing another hour of it is the last thing you are going to sign up to do.
Your comments reak of someone who thinks everything in the US is handed to Americans on a silver platter. There is a reason the US has the largest economy in the world and it is certainly not due to laziness. Think about it next time you are on your 3 week holiday.
I wonder how much cooperation there would be if Gaim had a real Windows client (yes I know they have a crappy one) and Trillian had a Linux client (they didn't last time I checked).
It's nice to see the cooperation, but you are right by quoting competing, since they have two different user bases.
BTW, Gaim.70 is working perfectly so far with Yahoo. Just don't disconnect!:)
I completely agree that the activities I mention are no big deal and have caused me no problems or harm since 9/11. I think this is the lives about 90% of Americans led, so the laws don't affect most people. In all honesty, I was just speaking about myself though.
I would feel completely confident in going to a mosque and speaking to Muslims. If it got me on a watch list, I would not really care either, nor would I probably ever know. Now if I were planning on blowing something up, I might care, but I'm not...so watch away. Hopefully they would realize rather quickly I was not a threat, because I am more concerned with the money wasted watching me than actually being watched.
As far as non violent activist groups, well I generally don't like them and they represent such a small portion of the people they are near irrelevant. I'm not talking about the "I went to the anti-war rally" people. I'm talking about the kind people who lay down in the streets blocking traffic in Manhattan screwing up a few hundred thousands peoples days who are just trying to make a buck and live. These people are generally out of touch with reality and live to bitch. They love to be on these "no-fly" lists, gives them more to complain about and get some press.
I do agree with you about the no sunset clause. It would have been nice if we could have been a little smarter when making these drastic laws and put an expiration date on them so if they didn't work we could toss them. Also, good point on the benign government. Our rights are being chipped away more by non 9/11 legislation (although they try to make it relevant to 9/11 sometimes to play on fear). People just sit back and take it, not realizing what we are giving up. You just don't realize it till it hits you all at once and at that point you are screwed. At least we can still bear arms to overthrow a repressive government...or can we?
I read a lot of criticism about the security measures and laws that were enacted after 9/11 and although I do agree that many of the laws give the government too much power and some are just idiotic, it has not affected my life at all. I still can surf the web, including pr0n, send email, drive to work, buy groceries, ride the subway, go to the US Open...etc. More importantly there has not been another terrorist attack on our soil. Is this the new laws and surveilence working or just chance? I honestly don't know, but I have a feeling the laws we so often rip on are the same ones helping to protect innocent lives right now. Could they be better? Certainly, and I think they will get better.
We rip on the "knee-jerk" reaction, but that is how it works...it is a reflex. If you don't have reflexes, something is wrong. This is the first time something like this happened here, no one knew how to handle it, we are learning.
On the other hand, we need to keep bitching when these laws go too far. This is how people who will chance things get elected. They listen to the people and their gripes and get the votes. In essence we are watching the process that makes the US a great place. The government goes too far, the people speak out, the government backs off. So keep speaking out.
go online sometime and look at pictures of what eqyptian women looked like back then. they all look like nefertiti! this is because she is one of the few and the most popular to have a well preserved bust. i think just about everyone has seen pictures of that bust while they were growing up and that is what sticks in your head.
im not saying what these guys did was crap. im saying they went into this with a preconceived view of what 'lady x'' (which would not be that hard to figure out) should look like based on the fact that she was a royal eqyptian mummy. i would just like to see some real double blind reconstructions, this was far from double bind in my book.
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Sometimes if you find someone who thinks logically and is against cartels that artifically inflate the prices of diamonds they will actually listen.
:)
Just point your future (or current) mate to a couple articles written by respected publications (not crazy conspiricy rags) and many women will be appalled by what goes on to bring them their 'precious' diamond. If they still want one because it is tradition and everyone else has one, then I myself would reconsider spending my life with such a shallow, uncaring person.
Or you can just buy one of these man made ones and buck the entire system!
this article had nothing to do with prudish america. this is completely offtopic and you just used it as a pulpit for your little rant.
this should be modded right down.
If you look the product up on the OCZ Technology website now their thermal paste is under recall. Also in the description of the product it does not mention silver at all. Looks like they have done some quick editing and stopped selling the product. Probably grinding up some of wives jewelry as I type
Forget about the Wright brothers and this Kiwi, the aliens who put us on this earth were obviously the first to fly. I mean come on people, it is simple logic!
Ya ya, offtopic.
Is this really even news anymore? /. must generate more SCO publicity than any other entity out there right now, which is only good for SCO.
/. create a sco.slashdot.org and post all the SCO crap there, so all of us who know they are full of crap and have become completely desensitized to the issue can stop beating the long dead horse. Those who enjoy beating a rotting carcass can continue to do so.
How about
Who gives a shit? If you don't have any experience with it just post the story and leave your worthless comments out.
But you haven't built the 3rd fastest computer in the world
Nope, but a top 100 I have.
For serious scientific/engineering computations, 64-bit and having 2 FP units on each G5 are keys to success.. Memory can always be added later if it can be justified.
For the most part, these are the reason I am going with Opterons over our currents Xeons in the future. That and their benchmarks are quite a bit higher than any other 64-bit CPU out there.
Ummmm, 2*2Ghz*2instructions per processor outruns a SCSI drive interface just like it outruns an IDE drive interface, both of which out run the drive head moving into position to get the right stripe of data which is in turn faster than the fscking platter rotating around. Drive swap?!? Shit, they'll be avoiding that like the plague without regard to the interface.
Of course the disk is the bottleneck, exactly my point and U320 SCSI disks will increase that bottleneck even over SATA 150 drives.
It is always simple to say you won't swap until you have to solve a problem and not enough memory. Of course you try to avoid it, but sometimes it is unavoidable. Hell, I even said they probably don't need to swap and that is why this solution works for them.
Yeah, you could be more dense in 1 rack, but 50 full racks in a room would need to be submerged in a liquid to keep it cool.
Get yourself 6-8 high power Lieberts and you are just fine.
1. there aren't too many apps that stress a system more than the LINPACK benchmark, that's why they use it...duh,
there are plenty of apps that stress out a system as much as linpack, linpack just gives good benchmarking results.
the problem size used to benchmark is specifically chosen to max out the memory to get a real-world test of performance, again, that's why they use LINPACK...duh,
please tell me where you read that in the article. it looks to me like they were using linpack to get cpu benchmarks not memory intensive benchmarks. using linpack is far from real world.
the RAM limit is based on 1 GB DIMMS because 2 GB DDR400 DIMMS did not exist in any quantity before the machine was released and the specs finalized, the G5 can handle 2GB DIMMS with no problem (I know, I asked Apple), again, duh
please refer to http://www.apple.com/powermac/ and read the heading where it says can use up to 8GB of RAM. i will believe apple's always over exaggerated claims before i believe you.
if an app swaps on any machine you either a. took on a problem size too big for the machine, or b. wrote some really crappy code, anyone who writes scientific apps knows this
this is just simply a retarded statement. you could just as easy as say you bought a machine not large enough for the problems you need to solve which was my comment in the first place. you can always blame crappy code, but when you are simulating a cpu and you have a design flaw n the chip your app may use a shit pile of memory while simulating. this is not a fault of the app, it is a design fault. you need to use the memory so you can fix the design problems that caused the memory usage in the first place.
Know your facts before you post to a world-wide forum and look like a complete idiot! DUH!
perhaps you should take your own advice.
I am speaking from experience when I tell you that building a large cluster from desktops is just not a good way to go. They take up a hell of a lot more room, they put out a lot more heat, and the remote management capabilites are degraded.
Once you go rack, you never go back. I much prefer a rack of 1U units that are built to be used in cluster situations.
I guess VT also has the luxury of running CPU intensive tasks. Those machines can only 8 GB RAM while other offerings can hold 16 GB and if they start to swap....ouch, not having SCSI drives will hurt.
All in all this setup is very impressive when just considering CPU performance. Wonder what is going to happen when a proffessor needs to run a few hundred jobs that use 10 or so GB of RAM each.
a lot of these units are sent to reviews before you can even buy the product in the store. with no actual consumer version to compare it against, everyone just pretty much accepts the results as long as they are within reason. by the time people are actually buying the products, reviewers have moved on to newer products.
car companies used to do this all the time. they would send a 'ringer' to the review magazines. you would then get your car, put it on a dyno or take to a track and not be able to match the numbers.
just one of those buyer beware things.
I would not worry too much if I were you about this comment. It is akin to being shot by a bb gun, a mere welt, compared to the gaping .45 wounds that are bleeding unchecked in Sun's belly.
Sure it gets to 60 quick, but GM has the record I think with an EV1...it did 183.
Spoken like a true solicalist.
I suppose you would much rather be poor in India then in New York.
America works the most hours per person of any industrialized nation.
:)
Japan is second.
Australia is third.
Of course I have not lived there so I just go by what I read...they only print the truth right?
I myself would say, "I won't change" never "I shant change". Anyway...
I didn't realize your questions were directed at me as an individual, I thought they were simply rhetorical.
Here are my answer's to your questions in the order you just asked.
1) Depends
2) Wife, children, family, pets, house, and even myself all need attention. Using public transportation and having it take 1-30 extra minutes a day is no big deal. If it grew larger than that I would really start to favor driving.
3) Yes
4) 30 minutes a day in stationary traffic with a total travel time of 60 minutes (one way), would be preferable to me over 90 minutes one way public transpertation, plus driving to and from bus/train station..
I think you have read me wrong here. I am a proponent of public transportation. When I travel into NYC from Long Island I use it. Right now I drive 4 miles to work and it takes 10 minutes...not much public transportation can do for me.
When I lived in Los Angeles it was a 10 minutes ride to the train and I took it to downtown LA. Faster and more effecient than driving. When I started to work in Malibu, I drove 27 miles one way. Took me 45 minutes, public transportation was not even possible.
It appears to me that you think all Americans are unwilling or do not care to take public transportation. This is not the case at all. We lack the infrastructure. With land being so abundant cities just sprawled (look at LA) and now for the vast majority of American public transportion is not available or not a real option. If you can drive to work in 45 minutes but it would take 1.5 hours for public trans you just drive, especially if you have to get in your car anyway to drive to a bus/train stop.
Now I wouldn't go getting into any "Biggest and bestest economy in the world" pissing matches, because you and I both know that you'll loose.
I don't see how I could lose since what I stated was fact. The US has the single largest economy in the world. No where did I say it was the best or the envy of the rest of the world.
"Oh I can't possibly change my schedule! It'll add hours to my commute!" you cry, your heckles raised. "I have my schedule, I have my car!" you bawl. "No, I shant change!" you scream and cry and gnash.
You must have us confused with the British. No one where would even say, let alone scream and cry "No, I shant change!". Nor do we scream or cry, we bitch and moan.
The vast majority of Americans however are animals of routine.
Hey I agree with this! Then again, so are all humans, so it really does not mean much.
Especially living on Long Island and driving into the city all the time. The traffic is getting astoundingly worse, approaching soul-sucking proportions.
You actually have one of the better public transportation systems in the country available to you. I have lived from coast to coast and the LIRR (Long Island Rail Road for those that don't know) has a pretty vast network over the entire island. You can be at a train station in 10 mins from just about anywhere barring you live on one of the forks. Then once in NY you of course have the subway.
If I were you I would stop dreaming about robotic chauffers and magic lines on the road and start taking public transportation since it is actually available to you! Being able to read, work, or sleep on the train is certainly better than sitting on the LIE in heavy traffic.
I think you got it wrong. Americans, although over consumers, are certainly not lazy. We have just about the longest work weeks and shortest amounts of vacation for a first world country. This is exactly why people can't just go adjusting their schedule. When you are so strapped for time that you find it car to eat three squares in a day or have a life outside of work, losing another hour of it is the last thing you are going to sign up to do.
Your comments reak of someone who thinks everything in the US is handed to Americans on a silver platter. There is a reason the US has the largest economy in the world and it is certainly not due to laziness. Think about it next time you are on your 3 week holiday.
I wonder how much cooperation there would be if Gaim had a real Windows client (yes I know they have a crappy one) and Trillian had a Linux client (they didn't last time I checked).
.70 is working perfectly so far with Yahoo. Just don't disconnect! :)
It's nice to see the cooperation, but you are right by quoting competing, since they have two different user bases.
BTW, Gaim
only gives bj's for the time being.
Please point out all the terrorist attacks to take place on US soil that have killed over 1,000 people.
I completely agree that the activities I mention are no big deal and have caused me no problems or harm since 9/11. I think this is the lives about 90% of Americans led, so the laws don't affect most people. In all honesty, I was just speaking about myself though.
I would feel completely confident in going to a mosque and speaking to Muslims. If it got me on a watch list, I would not really care either, nor would I probably ever know. Now if I were planning on blowing something up, I might care, but I'm not...so watch away. Hopefully they would realize rather quickly I was not a threat, because I am more concerned with the money wasted watching me than actually being watched.
As far as non violent activist groups, well I generally don't like them and they represent such a small portion of the people they are near irrelevant. I'm not talking about the "I went to the anti-war rally" people. I'm talking about the kind people who lay down in the streets blocking traffic in Manhattan screwing up a few hundred thousands peoples days who are just trying to make a buck and live. These people are generally out of touch with reality and live to bitch. They love to be on these "no-fly" lists, gives them more to complain about and get some press.
I do agree with you about the no sunset clause. It would have been nice if we could have been a little smarter when making these drastic laws and put an expiration date on them so if they didn't work we could toss them. Also, good point on the benign government. Our rights are being chipped away more by non 9/11 legislation (although they try to make it relevant to 9/11 sometimes to play on fear). People just sit back and take it, not realizing what we are giving up. You just don't realize it till it hits you all at once and at that point you are screwed. At least we can still bear arms to overthrow a repressive government...or can we?
I read a lot of criticism about the security measures and laws that were enacted after 9/11 and although I do agree that many of the laws give the government too much power and some are just idiotic, it has not affected my life at all. I still can surf the web, including pr0n, send email, drive to work, buy groceries, ride the subway, go to the US Open...etc. More importantly there has not been another terrorist attack on our soil. Is this the new laws and surveilence working or just chance? I honestly don't know, but I have a feeling the laws we so often rip on are the same ones helping to protect innocent lives right now. Could they be better? Certainly, and I think they will get better.
We rip on the "knee-jerk" reaction, but that is how it works...it is a reflex. If you don't have reflexes, something is wrong. This is the first time something like this happened here, no one knew how to handle it, we are learning.
On the other hand, we need to keep bitching when these laws go too far. This is how people who will chance things get elected. They listen to the people and their gripes and get the votes. In essence we are watching the process that makes the US a great place. The government goes too far, the people speak out, the government backs off. So keep speaking out.
go online sometime and look at pictures of what eqyptian women looked like back then. they all look like nefertiti! this is because she is one of the few and the most popular to have a well preserved bust. i think just about everyone has seen pictures of that bust while they were growing up and that is what sticks in your head.
im not saying what these guys did was crap. im saying they went into this with a preconceived view of what 'lady x'' (which would not be that hard to figure out) should look like based on the fact that she was a royal eqyptian mummy. i would just like to see some real double blind reconstructions, this was far from double bind in my book.